cover of episode EP-41 专访 Qiao Wang:如何投资 PUMPFUN 获得至少1000倍?Alliance 的超早期投资哲学

EP-41 专访 Qiao Wang:如何投资 PUMPFUN 获得至少1000倍?Alliance 的超早期投资哲学

2024/11/10
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Qiao Wang: Alliance 是一家专注于超早期(Pre-seed)项目的风险投资公司,投资策略与其他 VC 不同,我们非常注重 Hands-on,深度参与项目的孵化过程。我们更看重团队而非项目理念,因为早期项目通常需要多次迭代和调整。 我们投资的 PUMPFUN 项目,最终获得了至少 1000 倍的回报。在投资 PUMPFUN 时,我们并没有特别关注其最初的项目理念,而是更看重团队的年轻和创新能力。他们经历多次转型,最终才成功打造了 PUMPFUN 这个 Memecoin Launchpad。 另一个成功的案例是 Moonshot,我们很早就看中了他们的团队和项目理念的简洁性,他们解决了用户用法币直接购买 Memecoin 的问题。 我们投资的项目失败率很低,这主要是因为我们对团队选择的重视。我们通常通过线上申请和推荐的方式寻找合适的团队,更看重团队的执行力和对产品的理解,而不是他们的背景。 我们对被投项目的帮助主要体现在三个方面:协助市场推广、共同制定项目理念、帮助项目融资。 我们认为 Memecoin 具有持续性,因为用户购买 Memecoin 的目的是为了快速获利,并且 Memecoin 更易于理解。 我们认为特朗普当选后,美国对加密货币的监管环境将得到改善,这将提振创业情绪。 我们投资了大量的中国团队项目,虽然语言和文化存在差异,但我们认为中国创业者与其他地区的创业者在本质上没有太大区别。 本周期市场热点主要集中在 Memecoin 和 Stablecoin。我们不会投资与 Tether 和 Circle 竞争的新型稳定币项目,但会投资稳定币的应用层和基础设施层项目。 Solana 上 Memecoin 的集中爆发可能与早期社区建设和 KOL 的影响力有关。 我们对项目的筛选流程主要依靠直觉判断,通常在很短时间内就能决定是否投资。 未来三到六个月加密货币市场将持续向好,但长期走势取决于宏观经济政策。

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What is the key factor behind the success of PUMPFUN, according to Qiao Wang?

The success of PUMPFUN is largely attributed to the team's youth and innovative capabilities. The team, which includes a CTO with only a middle school education but strong technical skills, was able to pivot multiple times and execute the idea effectively.

What is Alliance's investment strategy for early-stage projects?

Alliance focuses on investing in pre-seed stage projects with valuations in the millions, typically around $500,000. They avoid projects with valuations in the tens of millions and prioritize hands-on support to help founders find good ideas and markets.

How does Qiao Wang view the sustainability of the memecoin market?

Qiao Wang believes memecoins have high sustainability because they offer retail investors a chance to 'flip their fortunes' and are easier to understand compared to more complex crypto projects like DeFi. This accessibility and the desire for quick returns drive their popularity.

What impact does Qiao Wang expect from Trump's presidency on the crypto industry?

Qiao Wang expects a significant positive impact, particularly in the appointment of SEC and Treasury leaders who are not hostile to crypto. This would improve the entrepreneurial environment, as founders would no longer fear regulatory crackdowns, leading to increased innovation and project launches.

What is the typical process for Alliance when evaluating and investing in early-stage projects?

Alliance's process involves initial screening by Qiao Wang, who reviews thousands of applications annually. Promising projects are discussed with partners, and decisions are often made within 20 minutes. Post-investment, Alliance provides support in go-to-market strategies, idea refinement, and fundraising.

What is the significance of PUMPFUN's pivot to becoming a memecoin launchpad?

PUMPFUN's pivot to a memecoin launchpad was unexpected but successful due to the team's ability to execute. Initially conceived as a fungible token launchpad, it evolved into a platform for launching memecoins, which resonated with the market and drove its 1000x return.

How does Alliance differentiate itself from other crypto VCs?

Alliance differentiates itself by focusing on the earliest stages of projects (pre-seed) and providing hands-on support to founders. They also avoid high-valuation projects and prioritize consumer-facing applications, which many VCs shy away from.

What is Qiao Wang's perspective on the role of luck in successful investments?

Qiao Wang acknowledges that luck plays a significant role, estimating that 90% of a project's success is due to chance. However, he emphasizes the importance of selecting the right team, as they are more likely to pivot and adapt to market changes effectively.

What is the current focus of Alliance's investment portfolio?

Alliance's current focus is on consumer-facing applications, particularly in the memecoin and DeFi sectors. They avoid overvalued infrastructure projects and seek out low-valuation, high-potential teams with innovative ideas.

How does Qiao Wang assess the potential of a team during the investment process?

Qiao Wang assesses teams based on their ability to execute and adapt, rather than their initial idea. He looks for founders who can recognize good ideas and pivot effectively, often relying on intuition and the team's background to make quick decisions.

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本节介绍了 Qiao Wang 的个人背景,包括成长经历、传统金融行业和加密货币领域的职业经历,以及创立 Alliance 的契机。
  • 12岁前往加拿大,大学毕业后在美国工作
  • 早期在传统金融行业从事高频交易
  • 17年加入 Massari,负责产品和技术团队
  • 2020年创立 Alliance,专注于加密货币领域的早期投资和孵化

Shownotes Transcript

在本期访谈中,Qiao Wang,Alliance 的联合创始人兼知名加密行业投资人,分享了他在 Crypto 领域的投资策略。Alliance 目前主要投资几百万美金估值的超早期项目。他详细介绍了本轮对 PUMPFUN 的投资与孵化,获得至少1000倍的回报;以及对MOONSHOT 的投资,获得超过百倍回报。PUMPFUN 这个项目的成功,关键在于他们团队的年轻和创新能力。他表示特朗普上任后最大的变化是不会任命对加密货币有敌意的SEC主席与财政部长,创业情绪马上就会大大改善。

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时间线:

00:00 开场与 Qiao 自我介绍

06:00 Alliance 的团队构成与投资策略 

15:51 投资成功案例 PUMPFUN 和 Moonshot 的背景、团队特质及成功因素

25:15 对当前 memecoins 赛道的看法和市场潜力分析 

31:55 对美国监管政策的预期变化及其对Crypto行业的影响 

36:02 未来投资方向和对中国创业团队的建议

38:08 对本周期 memecoin 火热的看法

42:12 筛选团队的标准、流程及后续支持

45:04 对 VC 代币近期表现、TON 和特朗普当选的影响的看法