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56. Outer创立这5年:从超级单品到“承包后院”

2024/11/10
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刘佳科:中国出海环境呈现两极分化,一部分企业在市场下行期压力加大,更加激进;另一部分企业则开始专注品牌建设和长期价值,心态更加稳定。越来越多的国内出海创业者注重品牌的长期价值和用户体验。 从追求流量玩法到聚焦产品本身,很多创始人开始反思什么才是真正重要的。 品牌是一个飞轮,需要长期视角来看待增长,十年二十年为跨度,会有波动,但只要长期增长即可。 DTC模式是离消费者最近的商业模式,但成本高,需要自己铺垫渠道,对团队综合能力要求高,需要在产品、供应链、营销等方面都做到优秀。供应链管理非常重要,需要有敬畏之心。 户外家具是一个被遗忘的品类,市场增长快,存在蓝海机会。户外生活方式的转变,以及Millennials消费能力的提升,为户外家具市场带来增长机遇。 Outer的客单价高,目标用户有限,但通过持续的产品创新和品牌建设,可以维持增长。户外家具的配件复购率高,可以弥补整体复购率低的缺点。 渠道布局方面,时机成熟后,Outer开始拓展亚马逊等电商平台,并考虑线下渠道,以触及更多消费者。 Outer未来的发展方向是提供户外空间解决方案,目标是解锁全美国一亿亩地的后院空间,这是一个万亿美金的市场。 创始人需要坚持自己的理念,但也要倾听消费者的声音,找到平衡点。 Nicole:探讨了中国出海环境的变化、品牌增长、DTC模式、户外家具品类、Outer的品牌定位、渠道布局以及未来发展方向等多个方面。

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Key Insights

What are the key changes in the domestic and overseas environment for Chinese companies going global, as observed by Outer's founder?

The domestic and overseas environment for Chinese companies going global has become more polarized. Previously, companies were more aggressive, focusing on traditional exports and profit margins. However, with economic downturns both domestically and internationally, companies are now shifting towards long-term brand building and product quality, moving away from short-term traffic-driven strategies.

How does Outer's founder view the concept of growth for a brand?

Outer's founder views growth for a brand as a long-term process, emphasizing that a brand's lifecycle should be measured over 10 to 20 years. He believes that while there will be fluctuations due to market conditions, the overall trend should be upward. This perspective helps in balancing short-term pressures with long-term brand building.

What is the significance of the 'Great Wealth Transfer' for Outer's target market?

The 'Great Wealth Transfer' refers to the generational shift of wealth from Baby Boomers to Millennials in the U.S. This transfer is significant for Outer as their target market, Millennials, are entering their peak earning years and will inherit substantial wealth. This demographic shift is expected to increase the average assets of Millennials from $100,000 to $500,000 over the next six years, driving demand for premium products like Outer's.

What challenges does Outer face with its DTC (Direct-to-Consumer) model in the furniture industry?

Outer faces several challenges with its DTC model, particularly in the furniture industry. The high cost of customer acquisition, the need for continuous content creation, and building a community are significant hurdles. Additionally, the high price point of their products makes it difficult to sell through traditional online channels like Amazon, requiring a more tailored approach to reach their target audience.

How does Outer plan to expand its product line and address the low repurchase rate in the furniture industry?

Outer plans to expand its product line by introducing more accessories and complementary products, such as cushions, covers, and outdoor accessories, which have higher repurchase rates compared to furniture. They aim to create a more comprehensive outdoor living experience, encouraging customers to buy additional items that enhance their outdoor spaces.

What is Outer's new product initiative, 'Outer Spaces,' and how does it aim to revolutionize outdoor living?

Outer Spaces is a new product initiative by Outer that aims to transform the way Americans use their backyards. It offers a standardized, high-end outdoor space solution that can be assembled quickly, avoiding the complexities and high costs of traditional landscaping projects. This product targets the 30% of American households with backyards, providing a more accessible and efficient way to create usable outdoor spaces.

How does Outer's founder balance his vision with the input of his team and investors?

Outer's founder believes in balancing his vision with the input of his team and investors by trusting his instincts while also valuing the expertise of his team. He emphasizes the importance of making decisions based on his internal voice, especially when it comes to long-term brand strategy, while remaining open to feedback and collaboration from his team.

Chapters
中国出海环境正经历两极分化,一部分企业在经济下行压力下转向品牌建设,追求长期价值和用户体验;另一部分则仍在追求流量红利。这种转变如同经历一场“成长的病痛”,促使企业反思自身发展方向。
  • 中国出海环境呈现两极分化趋势
  • 越来越多的出海创业者重视品牌长期价值和用户体验
  • 从流量玩法转向品牌建设成为新的趋势

Shownotes Transcript

时隔两年,和回国出差的佳科聊了聊国内出海环境的转变和Outer的新动向。他打趣说,出海创业就像经历了一场“成长的病”,让人开始反思什么才是真正重要的。从追求流量玩法到聚焦产品本身,越来越多国内的出海创业者现在更注重品牌的长期价值和用户体验了。而Outer 也在不断生长,从创立之初的超级单品到即将上线的跨界户外空间解决方案,既有不变的品牌理念,也因市场需求而不断创新。

主播:Nicole    嘉宾:刘佳科 | Outer创始人

时间轴

1:10  国内出海环境的“两极分化”

6:34  在一个周期内如何看待增长

10:08 如何理解美国代际更替和财富大转移

13:46 DTC是离消费者最近的商业模式

17:09 1700万美金的供应链学费?!

20:48 如何理解户外家居这一细分品类

27:34 户外家具的复购率远高于室内家具

29:59 拓展SKU的思路

33:24 做服务一部分人的产品还是服务大众市场的产品

37:01 渠道布局:时机到了,从被动被主动

40:07 在深圳落地了团队

44:28 用户外空间解决方案,解锁美国1亿亩地后院

53:19 创始人如何平衡自己在公司内部的声音

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Great Wealth Transfer 大规模财富转移

Founder Mode) by Paul Graham 创始人模式

  • 部分观点分享: “实际上,运营公司有两种不同的模式:创始人模式和经理人模式。到目前为止,即使在硅谷,大多数人都隐隐认为,初创公司要扩展,就必须切换到经理人模式。然而,从那些尝试了经理人模式的创始人的失望,以及他们试图摆脱这种模式的成功,我们可以推测出另一种模式的存在。目前并没有专门关于创始人模式的书籍。商学院甚至不知道它的存在。到目前为止,我们所拥有的只是那些创始人自发的摸索与实验。既然我们知道自己在寻找什么,就可以去探索。希望在未来几年内,创始人模式能够像经理人模式一样被理解透彻。”