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Excerpt - Richard Seymour on Luigi Mangione

2024/12/27
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Callum: 提问探讨了美国联合健康CEO Brian Thompson被暗杀以及对被告Luigi Mangione的民众支持,这两者如何反映美国的阶级斗争和阶级意识,以及与历史上其他地区政治暗杀的相似之处。 Richard Seymour: 将此事件与Eric Hobsbawm的“社会强盗”理论联系起来。他认为,社会强盗的出现反映了社会矛盾和政治制度的失效。在传统社会中,社会强盗代表穷人的利益,对抗压迫者,虽然被国家视为罪犯,却受到民众的保护。这是一种在更有效的反抗方式出现之前的非政治化抗议形式。美国的案例显示,即使在发达资本主义社会,这种现象仍然存在,这表明美国在体制和政治上陷入了瘫痪,难以实现有效的政治改革。这与Ernst Bloch的“活生生的昨日”概念相呼应,体现了美国社会深层次的矛盾和无力感,无法通过正常的政治途径解决问题,只能诉诸于这种非制度化的反抗。 …

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So Richard, our first question comes from Callum, who says, What might the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson and popular support for the accused Luigi Mangione tell us about the class struggle and class consciousness in the United States? What parallels might be drawn to other periods and places where assassination was a common political tactic, sometimes symptomatic of a lack of political organisation?

You know, it's funny, this question overlaps with something that I wrote recently about Eric Hobsbawm's concept of the social bandit, which I think this is probably what the questioner is actually getting at. So Hobsbawm is describing periods in rural traditional life

where these bandit heroes emerge. Their enemies are the foes of the poor, traditionally. They're regarded as criminal by the state, but not by the people. So to that extent, the people protect them. And the critical point that Hobsbawm makes is that the social bandit is a kind of pre-political, non-revolutionary form of protest before people really discover more effective ways of resisting.

So a society that calls the social bandit into existence clearly has problems that it doesn't yet know how to solve. And so then the question is, you know, why should it be that the United States, an advanced capitalist society, should call into being this social type?

It's redolent of what Ernst Bloch calls the living yesterday. You know, there's a sense in which the United States is so paralyzed as a country, institutionally and politically paralyzed, that it's almost impossible to get any meaningful and effective political reform achieved.

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