PattyCakesFit | The toxicity of mens fitness, Mental health in males, The reality of following your dreams
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Oh, baby. That was the crack of an energy drink, my friends. It has been the longest weekend we are right now out in Dallas. Yes, we are at the Rise Warehouse, Rise Gym. You guys have definitely seen if you've been following up with all the content. It's been a good time, but a very long, tiring time.

time we were asleep by 8 p.m. yesterday yes I am surviving off of energy drinks right now you know obviously we're in the rise warehouse you're probably thinking well why are you having just pre-workout I'm friends do not just casually have pre-workout as your main energy source during the day if you're not gonna work out okay yeah no that's crack this is a Celsius I am drinking right now and oh my goodness I'm gonna take one sip right now oh that was needed

I have a Diet Coke. I love Diet Coke. It's just, you know, guilty pleasure. You can say it's bad for you all you want. I don't care. I love it. So that's super good. It only has 76 milligrams of caffeine. It's something. 76 is honestly, like, really good for a soda, though. For a soda? Yeah, I guess. Like, because this is 200, and, like, you're getting, like, the guilty pleasure of having, like, a nice soda right now. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, it works. We're doing this podcast. Then we got to get ready for like a team dinner, which should be fun. It should be a good time. We got some good workouts in this week as well. We are also, I hope you guys have noticed, we're being more active on the podcast Instagram. We are getting our, we're getting it done. Yeah, I hope you guys have noticed and noticed the difference because we've been grinding. Accountability.

It's very important that we stay engaged on that page because, you know, I feel like for the next like few months, like that's going to be our really our big priority is like really focusing on this podcast for you guys. Yes. And just focusing on us as a duo. Like it is us together. Like the podcast is like our brand guys. You guys don't know what's coming. You know what? I guarantee they're probably thinking it's hey, maybe it is. Maybe it's not one day.

We'll see. We'll do all the things. And anything you guys can think of, I bet we thought of doing. Yeah. Probably. And it's crazy, though. We filmed our podcast, what, three days ago? Last episode? So we've had just a three-day break between these last two episodes, and a lot has happened to, like, catch up on. Yeah.

Me with Alphalete. Craziness. Yes, Sam signed with Alphalete. Yeah. And like, okay, so this is something too that I've been getting asked a lot. How the heck are you with Alphalete and Raw Gear? Why aren't you guys asking that about Taylor? Taylor's with TLF and Raw Gear. Yeah. It's guys, it's a contract thing. You know, you're allowed to be in other, like you're allowed to work with other brands as long as the contract's open. There's a lot that goes into contracts. It's not just an exclusive thing, you know? Yeah, contracts can be non-exclusive. I feel like I thought contract meant like,

It's exclusive, but no, there's non-exclusive contracts, which means you can post other brands all you want. And you can pretty much tell if someone's exclusive or non-exclusive. But yeah, we're both non-exclusive with our clothing brands. If any of you were wondering, I've been with TLF for a long time now. You can use both of our codes for TLF and Offaly. It's a lot of good stuff. And Raw Gear for the oversized pumpers. Oh, hell yeah.

I love it. We love our pop covers. Yes, I'm wearing one right now, actually. I'm not. I'm wearing one of the Rise shirts. Yes, we've been Rised out. Guys, the photos and everything we took. Oh, so good. Yesterday was pure, like, Rise content, but then today...

We did a lot of shots for the podcast page, which the content on the podcast page is going to pop off. Yes, and if you guys, I don't know if we'll ever get word of when the pictures are ready, but if you go on the website or the Rise Instagram in the next few weeks...

Yeah. The pictures are sick. Yeah. The pictures look so dope. You guys have to see, like, the ring pop stuff. The pictures for the ring pop stuff will be dope. Yeah. They're so sick. It's cool being behind the scenes and, like, being able to actually see, like... I wish they were boxing stuff this weekend because, you know, we're here...

predominantly Saturday and so they're not doing any of the packaging but I was hoping they would be packaging so that way we could put some little notes into the things. Like girls were doing orders today and like screenshotting putting on their story tagging me and I'm like damn man I wish I was like in like I wish they were packaging them so I could like put a thank you in there and like send you like a little like thing. I don't know. Yeah it's cool though it's cool seeing like behind the scenes and you get to

owner and like just see how everything's done yeah it's I love being the like the business environment it's very motivating it's like wow one day yeah one day this will be like something we'll have something like this we're in a super cool podcast studio if you're like where the heck you improved your mic so much we are in the rise podcast studio so we got like heavy duty mics like this cool soundboard

You guys will see it on the Instagram story. Yeah. So I feel like some of them are probably like, what? Quality's so good. Yeah. Yeah. It's not us on the couch. No, definitely not. We're in like a legit studio right now. A lot of other people here. All that fun stuff. Is there anything? Any other updates? I'm still banned on TikTok. Yeah. No, I don't really think there's like, not really, I guess.

I feel like we talk so much about our lives that we're like, wait, did we tell the podcast or did we tell our Instagram or did we tell our TikTok or did we tell our YouTube? I don't know. It's hard, too, because normally we podcast a week apart, but we just podcasted. Yeah. So it's like we really needed to take advantage of this room. And we podcasted twice because it delayed. Yeah. And then we repodcasted. Yeah, that's true.

I really hope the outcome with the last 20 minutes of that podcast last week. Yo, I respect the love that has been going my way in the DMs. You guys are awesome. Yeah, and we've done some educating on people because I got a lot of DMs being like, oh my god, I didn't know. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I'm here to open the eyes, people. You're welcome. No, it is crazy, though. Someone that's probably just like, oh, you see a product and you just want to buy it. Then now you know behind the scenes. Yeah.

I loved getting the DMs where people are just so glad we talked about it because they've gotten screwed over. Yeah. So they're like, hell yeah, thanks for talking about it. We will talk more Dirty Deets topics, of course. So obviously always send them our way in our DMs because it kind of helps us get like brainstorm. But obviously this week is going to be a little bit different. We're going to be talking with a guy. Yes, we haven't had a guest on in like what, like a month? Yeah.

I think so. We've been just so busy to the point where it's like getting a guest is hard. Like schedule, like even scheduling just me and you to podcast together is like hard. I was going to say when we didn't live together, scheduling just us to podcast was difficult. So no shot we could get someone else to do it. Yeah, no. It's just because also getting people in advance and like our schedule changes. Yeah.

But luckily we got dumped into this giant warehouse with like 10 other fitness people. Yeah. So we can force one of them. Oh, we also did. We also did the rise, um, podcast yesterday. So shout out to that podcast. If you guys want to hear more about us, because you're not sick and tired of us, go to the podcast, um, the rise podcast, which I'm pretty sure you can find on their website, like on the website. Um,

The next episode that's dropping is with us. Yeah, that was really fun. We just kind of talked about like us and our stories. Maybe if you're like new to our content and you don't know a lot about us or like how we got into this, that's a good place to start. Obviously our first episode talks about it too, but you can definitely go there.

Go there also. We did some nice chatting over there. But today, like Sam said, we got a boy on because you guys heard a few episodes ago, if you've been listening, how we wanted to talk about the guy side of fitness. The toxicity of it. Toxicity and the guy side of it. Yeah, I think so. Toxicity. The face you just made of me. I think so. The toxic side of the men's fitness industry, fitness, TikTok, all of that. But we needed a guy's point of view because...

Me and Sam talking about guys wouldn't really make much sense. Especially because we obviously see it a little bit, the comparison of guys being so alpha and mogging. We see that side, but there's so much more to the guy side that we just don't see. Yeah, or we don't have personal games either. So this was our plan. I'll be dead honest with you guys right now. We're podcasting right now in the room, and I was like, okay, well, I'll just text him to come in when it's time to come in because we want to do a little...

thing with him. His phone's dead, so I just had to text Chase to see if he was coming here. We might just have to get up and open the door and be like, hey, come. Patty, Patty, where are you? Please come. Imagine if one of these microphones would just do an announcement over the entire warehouse. Patty, Patty, please report to the podcast room, please. I think you should open the door. Yeah, I'll go get him. Anyways, like Jeopardy music, we should get waiting music. Yeah.

guys even in a big studio like this we're still just being ourselves like guys i wish you could just see how sam sprinted oh my god see this is what we're saying that coordinating people to podcast is really hard but don't worry it's gonna be a great episode you just got to get through our 15 minutes of nonsense at the beginning i think it's the best part of the podcast personally did you hey he's here i am major husband

Okay, so introduce yourself

Okay, what's up guys? My name is Patrick Dalton. I go as pattycakes on everything, pattycakesfit. Yeah, I was gonna say, shout out your socials. Oh yeah, pattycakesfit on Instagram, pattycakes on TikTok. And I don't really do YouTube much, but it's also pattycakes, so. Okay, easy, pattycakes. Yeah, it's easy. Yeah, if you look up pattycakes, I'm sure it'll come up. So, how did you like get started? How are you now at the Rise Warehouse, basically? Like, how'd you get here? Well, fitness-wise, mm-hmm.

So come high school, I was always like a really small five, three hundred and seven pound like football player. So I always got shit on, honestly, like everyone was bigger than me. Girls. I mean, they were like, oh, you're cute. You know, like you get the like you're cute, but I was never like a bigger guy. So I was always like really self-conscious about that.

Then I broke my leg in high school playing football. And that's when I was like, okay, time to change. I got super into YouTube watching like guys like Matt Ogis, Jeff said, Chris Jones. Like, I don't know. Those are like old fitness guys. I don't know them. We know only the girl's side. Oh yeah. Those are like super old, like.

Those are guys that I grew up watching. David Lay, obviously. David Lay. Yeah, I know him. And I got super into their journeys. And then I was like, you know what? I want to do this too. Started working out. And I hit a growth spurt. Like, when I started working outside, literally in one year, I went. Like, I put my head down. Didn't talk to anyone all summer. Had no friends. Didn't talk to girls. Like, nothing. I went from 5'3", like 107 pounds in high school. Shut up the next year. I was a...

Still like a little short. I was five nine hundred and seventy pounds and everyone was like this guy's taking steroids Like I just hit a growth spurt got super lucky and then um finished high school like around six foot Like 200 pounds had teachers asking me if I was taking steroids, which like I wasn't I wasn't then Yeah, like I wasn't there into this. Yeah, we'll get that. I wasn't then and then um college came I was true. I cheered for university. I was a male. You did that. Yeah, cool

Yeah, I was a male cheerleader, which it was so fun. Like you guys, I love that. And then I just stayed doing fitness through that. And then like life hit and I realized like, oh shit, nine to five job is like right around the corner. Last thing I wanted to do, I was just about to finish college. I had one more semester.

And I remember having a conversation with my mom and I was telling her like I don't want to like I don't want to fucking do this Like I don't want to do nine to five job. I want to do fitness and she had always told me like oh, it's just a dream It's just a dream like it's not gonna happen Like you can dream all you want like you can't make a life out of the gym And um, I got plastered drunk one night like if i'm being honest got super drunk and I was telling a

i was telling my girlfriend at the time i i was still dating her i was telling her like look like like babe like this is this is what i want to do like this is what i want again i was super open about it i was in a toxic relationship before and like she always put me down saying like it wasn't going to work so everyone had always told me no and she was the first person that was like you could do it like just try like she was like can do it and covet just happened and i was like okay like i'm gonna really try three weeks later

I texted Nick of... I texted him a DM, and I was like, this is complete honesty. I don't even think Nick has told anyone. I was straight up like, I could promote better than all your athletes. That's what I told him. Yeah, that's how I DM'd him. Nick is the CEO of Rise, if you're listening and you're like, who the hell is Nick? Yeah, Nick's the CEO. So I told him that, and he sent me his number, and he was like, let's talk. I had 4,000 followers on Instagram. Do you know what month this was, or when this was? This was...

I'm going to say January of last year or February. Yeah. February of last year. Let's say February. Okay. And, um, okay. So the story of that's actually crazy. I, um, I was stuck in Lubbock, Texas with the Oak boys. That was the first fitness trip I'd ever done. Uh, there was a pre COVID, right? No, that was COVID. That was COVID. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, I was stuck in, in Lubbock because there was the Dallas snowstorms. You guys remember? Yes. Yeah.

And everything was shut down. So it was like, it was like 3 a.m. I was on the couch and I was like, fuck it. Like, what would I lose by texting this guy? I was like, I wouldn't lose anything. Right. So I was like, if it works, cool. If it doesn't work, cool. Like I'm already like I'm already kind of doing this finishing, like, like kind of teetering on the edge of doing it, not doing it. And he left me on read.

You were probably devastated. Yeah, he left me on red. And then he was like, here's my number. I texted him back. Oh, cool. Texted him. Red. And I was like, this guy is not going to... Like, he doesn't like me. Three days later, he texted me back. Hey, man, sorry. Like, snowstorms have been, like, messing up my service. I'm going to give you a call tonight. I was like, oh, perfect. Nothing. The next morning, he's like, I'll give you a call at 9 a.m. Nothing. Then finally, I texted him, and I was like, look, man. Like, I have other companies I'm looking at. Like, I want to be with Rise, but...

like i like if not i'm gonna go to this other company tomorrow calls me on the spot he's like could you drive down to dallas i drove that down i drove down to dallas at 4am met him yeah i met him and uh tj the guy of uh the owner of pro subs oh yeah i met them we talked

We talked it out. I ended up getting all the Yoke guys signed on Rise, and that's how all the Yoke guys got on Rise was I sold everyone. I sold everyone to Nick, and he was like, him and TJ were like, oh, yeah, you guys should go getters. Like, I sold all of them. And then, I mean, a year later, like, I'm the only one left with Rise, but it's because I believed in Rise. Guys, that is...

The freaking hustle. Yeah. Like, that's the grind. Getting out of that comfort zone and going to it. Well, I mean, like, if you want something, it's so weird because...

Like you, the number one thing that probably changed your life, Sam's life, my life, this is what we all have in common, like all of us fitness influencers, quote unquote, is that we all just took a chance on something. We did, yeah. Like you dropped out, right? That's a big thing to do. Yeah. Sam, what was yours? Mine was just going all in on social media and not pursuing, applying for a full-time job because when I started social media, I was in that point of between

Using my degree post-graduation or going with the training. Yeah, and you know how hard it is telling your parents, I don't want to finish school. Or I finish school and I'm not going to get a job. But I mean, that story is really the grind. And it kind of touched on a few things we're going to be talking about today, which...

So you kind of answered this question in the beginning because I was going to ask you if you've ever been like body shamed in any sort of way. But I mean, you just touched on being smaller as a kid. Yeah. But maybe sense or even like fit shamed, like people kind of hating you because it's like. Yeah, it's crazy because there's like two different kinds of shaming. Like with guys, you're the too small.

And then if you're too big, like right now I'm like pretty muscular guys that don't work out. Oh, what's up big man? Oh, Hey big guy. Oh, like that kind of stuff. That kind of, it doesn't bother me at all. Cause I'm like, they're just like insecure. The alpha beta trend that I see with the guys. Yeah. That, well, the thing is I had been saying like, this is cringy as this is cringy as fuck. And I look back on it, but since high school I was always like, Oh, like I'm an alpha. Like I think like an alpha, which like, ah, like now it's cringy. Now, now it's cringy. Yeah.

But if that never caught on to it, like if that was never a trend, I would still think in my head, like I think differently than other guys. Like most guys are,

Lazy as shit sit on their ass play video games low testosterone like puffy nipples fat like this is super super bad to say But like a lot of guys are not go-getters. Yeah, which like I was telling you guys earlier I think our generation is like super weak guys and girls. Everyone is so weak. Everyone wants like a quick fix They don't realize just like the number one thing especially like with guys like testosterone diet comes first and like

It's just, I can talk about this all day. Okay, well, you're segwaying. We're segwaying great into the talking. Okay, we're good. No, we are because, like, exactly. People want quick fixes. They don't realize that you actually have to change your life and not just sit on your ass. So did you fall into, like, unhealthy habits? Like, when you first started in the gym and, like, oh, let me work out, let me grow my muscles, like, just, like, unhealthy ass shit.

Like in in which way like training splits eating habits like anything yo-yo dieting Yo-yo dieting not caring about I don't know anything just like unhealthy looking back now You're like you're like, why did I even think that that was good for me? Number one thing was macros. Remember I was telling you in the gym. I had a problem with that It was I was always counting things like religiously. I went on a trip with my family This is when I was this was two years into lifting and

And I was in Colorado with my family with no phone service. We're at a cabin. The first family trip we've done in years.

The entire trip, I literally ruined everyone's trip because I saw myself without a shirt for the first time in like a year. And I hated the way I looked. I have pictures on my phone. I remember I took them. I was like, I think I was 16. And I would like, literally, I was about to like cry over how I looked because I didn't look like Jeff said. I was 16 years old and I was like that. And that just fed so much more into it. Like talking about that, my parents both remind me about how I hated myself then. I mean, I'm like, obviously like now I don't hate myself, but...

There's still things I look at. Like, I mean, we all take pictures and we all are like, oh, I don't like that. I don't like this angle or I don't like this. But then like you compare yourself or someone else looks at you and they're like, dude, you look amazing. And it's like, no, no, I don't. So it's still there. It's just you kind of like, you like learn to like live with it. Yeah. And you can like now at this point, we know like we can fix those insecurities. Or like, like if I look at my bicep, I wish my biceps were a little bit bigger. Like those are things that like I can healthy.

Like, fix in a healthy way. Yeah. Yeah, and I think there's also a difference between, like, the average, normal, every single person picks apart themselves versus, like, is it to the point where how much you pick apart yourself is literally ruining your entire day? Like, to the points where, like, for girls, like, I wouldn't eat before I went to the beach. Like, if it got to, like,

Yeah, or like I know girls don't eat before they go to the gym because they're worried about having like a pudgy stomach Which like eating one meal is not gonna give you a pudgy stomach But I'm sure there's got like have you ever seen that with guys about okay not wanting to eat or whatever? Yeah, so this is all out. This is so For show prep I yo-yo dieted really hard for my show. I was eating I did keto for 20 weeks So I had I had carbs on cheat days and the griefy days but post show I

I was in love with food, but it was such a like I had such a mental block with it I would seriously eat something Okay, so remember I had a pint of ben and jerry's before bed And I had the thought in my head I was like I could seriously throw it up because I didn't want to like get fat and then that's when I realized like something's really wrong mentally and I remember The only thing that the only thing that got me over that mental side of it was talking about it and I would tell everyone like um

Even now like I make sure I eat egg whites every single morning. I never did that before show prep egg whites are disgusting Like I do that just because i'm like I did it on show prep I make sure I have three servings of chicken a day I mean obviously in dallas not right now, but like back home. I make sure I have chicken every single day That's something that's like from show prep. I didn't do that before I used to My life before prep was a lot Mentally healthier, I guess in a way like I um, I still have problems with

From the dieting, which I'm like slightly grateful for because it's helping me like maintain like a decent physique. Yeah. But from like a healthy mental perspective, if I am if I like I am right now in Dallas every single day and I knew I was going to eat like this the rest of my life, I would feel like shit about it all the time.

And that's something I just developed from fitness in general, which I'm not putting down fitness. There's healthy ways to do it. It's just, I'm still learning how to do it the healthy way. Yeah. And I think, cause you said like what helps is talking about it. I think I see on TikTok a lot of people saying like,

All gym bros like with their protein intake and blah blah blah. They all have eating disorders Oh, but I think the reason that it seems more disordered is because guys don't want to talk about it Like guys aren't going to sit in a group and be like I have an eating disorder Yeah, we kind of brush it we brush it off. They're not going to talk about it And if you're a guy and this sounds super this is a super hyper masculine way to look at things If i'm with a group of guys And a guy's like, oh man, I think i have an eating disorder. I would be like bro suck it up pussy like

Oh, you have an eating disorder. Oh. Like, just eat. Oh, just eat, bro. In reality, it's like, dude, like, it could really be something serious. Yeah. Like, I do understand that, especially from working with clients. Yeah.

Their number one thing is, especially like I know girls, I know girls. I think like this talking to clients on the phone, like male clients, the first thing they think is that they have to start starving themselves to lose weight. It goes both ways. It's, it's the same as I think guys think just like females do. We just don't get light on it at all. Like eating disorders are easily just as bad for guys. If not now, because magazines are filled with fit guys, right?

Everyone is fit. Guys look obnoxiously shredded. Look better than I do. Obviously, a lot of them are on steroids. Girls, now you guys have a lot of freedom to where not every magazine has a Victoria's Secret runway model on it. There's a lot more like... I think... Now, it's kind of controversial because everyone's very much so...

Talking about the body positivity for girls and how they only show like the one beauty standard But I actually have always felt that it is a little bit tougher for dudes because even when let's say they're only showing one beauty standard the beauty standard Changes over time. So like in the 90s, it was stick skinny girls. Yeah now it's like the Kim Kardashian so it's almost like everyone can kind of get there like a

Turn yeah, like the beauty standard changes one day. It's trendy to be zero curves flat skitties You can be one day. It's trendy to be get a BBL and have like yeah biggest curves you can yeah So it goes and flows but for dudes. It's like always the muscular It's like jock looking now the dad bod is like kind of coming in but you still have to be kind of muscular Exactly you still have to have broad shoulders. You still have to be this is one thing I don't really like this is gonna be super controversial, too

The soy boy trend. I don't know if that is that a trend It's like them. I don't know but like we're not on dude fitness. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like now They're saying guys that look very feminine are very attractive which in my mind I'm like that has never been attractive for female girl has never been attracted to a guy that is more feminine than she is what I mean by that is like smaller Frailer if that makes sense like

The beauty standard for men has never been a small, skinny guy. That's why every guy wants to get big. That's why now it's like, I don't know if it's pop culture or what, it's trying to push this skinnier version of guys on. It's not going to work. Not saying that it... This is going to sound so bad. Not saying that...

That's not attractive. But what I'm saying is big masculine men has, has always been like the standard for guys. And that's why so many guys take PEDs. Why so many guys do stupid things to get bigger. Like it's crazy. The amount of like, just from like being around like your, like the rise boys and like just hearing like what you guys talk about. I'm just like, Oh, I'm blown away at like,

The whole like that side of it. I was gonna say every single one of us of the guys, especially yesterday, we like took off our shirts for pictures. Not one of us was like, oh, I look good right now. Every single one of us like, Jesus Christ, I need to lose weight. You guys are literally all like jacked and shredded. You guys are like, we don't see it. But you guys are like the role models that...

younger kids or even kids your age like look up to and they are like oh someone will look at you patty like i want to look like him and it's like you guys are having like those thoughts like in the photo shoots like i don't look we have the same as that thoughts the people that look up to us have it's like we never grew out of if anything it gets worse as you get more fit exactly and i've actually i've talked about that on the podcast before when people are like how do you get confidence

And it sounds really, really sad. You fake it. It's that you have to realize you're never going to like yourself. Yeah, you're never going to be perfect. You are literally never going to think you look good enough. You're going to reach whatever goal you wanted to reach, and then you're going to be like, actually, I look like shit. So once you get over the fact that like,

I'm never truly gonna like how I look so I need to like Rock it and be confident with it and like love it the best I can because you're never gonna wake up and be like, wow, perfect Yeah, but there's there's two sides to that. Like I think of it as like there's the there's there's two sides of that coin There's one side where it's like that sucks. Like that's really bad. We're never gonna be happy with ourselves Confidence is always gonna be down the drain I'm always gonna not like wearing this outfit or things like that But if I didn't have that

This is the other side of the coin. If I didn't have that, I would not be where I am. I wouldn't be like a go-getter in a way. If I was satisfied with how I was, I would be on the couch eating potato chips, doing nothing. Well, I think that's kind of what you were saying that you had like said a little bit, how like things we have now, like we can fix and we know like, Hey, I want bigger quads.

I'm going to go work for them. Hey, I want more money, so I'm going to go make some money. Exactly. There's the situations where you look in the mirror or a photo and you're like, oh, there's two different types of people. They see that something they don't like, they'll

They'll go fix it in a healthy way or like you said sit on the couch do nothing about it eat some chips Yeah, and I think the thing I was more talking about and like you'll never really like it is like kind of unchangeable things Yeah, like maybe some days like you can be the most fit treating your body made it amazing You're gonna wake up one day and feel a little bit bloated than yesterday or like maybe you don't like your nose like things that are just I Absolutely, I hate photos from the side because I broke my nose like three times. I

I hate seeing my profile from the side because my nose is like, looks like a bird, right? And I feel like that's something girls don't think about. Yeah. I feel like girls don't think, like don't understand that guys get that way too because the amount of body shaming comments on, I've posted photos with guys and they'd comment like,

You're stronger than him like lol. He's so little. Oh, he's a match. Oh, he has gyno That's like such a comma and everyone's thing knows. Oh look at his gyno. It's like dude I don't have gyno like I like if I had gyno I'll tell you like I'm not worried about it people comment about boys as if it like and if it was a girl's video people would be like You're like, how could you say that but they just rip it on the dude so what the one thing I've really noticed is they

uh being a bigger guy like a bigger fitter guy you have the stigma of being like a douchebag and like you're the guy that people think like oh he's judging me right now when actually it's the complete opposite it's like i judged people a lot more when i was like first starting in the gym because i thought they were judging me so i judged them when in reality as you like learn in the gym you start to realize like no like i want to help other people i want to make them feel better it's actually the bigger guys are

That usually actually are the most like motivating ones. You just we look like douchebags in the gym because we're also tunnel vision We're always working out. We're like literally focused on ourselves. But if you open us up, we want people to do good We just want you to want it. We're not gonna babysit you through it What I hear a lot too is like a guy has a social media page and is showing his self off because he's full of himself oh my god, and it's like

The amount I hear that compared to a girls' page, I'm sure girls probably get it too, but I hear that so much with a guys' page because guys, obviously, when you're showing off your body, you're shirtless. Yeah. You hear that from guys more or girls more? Say that about other guys. Mostly it's other guys say about guys. I've heard girls say it too. I've heard girls be like, you know, they couldn't. That trend right now on TikTok, do you see that video that is trending on TikTok? It was these girls together, and they were like...

I would never date somebody who has a fitness page. Oh, yes. That video you were talking about? Oh, my gosh. Because they're like, that's so cringey. And I'm like... No, someone bettering themselves is not cringey. At all. It's... Or trying to educate and motivate somebody else. Yeah, Brandon... No one's ever doing a fitness page for the wrong reasons. Yeah, Brandon Clark had a great point on this. He...

He said the one thing he doesn't like though is that someone will make a different account for their fitness account He's like just make your personal account fitness because if you truly love fitness You're gonna want everyone to know because that's what you love to do If you're worried about what other people think you're not ready. Yeah, you're not ready my personal account turned into a fitness account How many people from high school were like, what is this guy trying to do?

From when I started, I was at 4,000 followers. Posted a shirtless picture. First one, first picture I posted in a year, I was shirtless saying, hey, tag someone or something. Just trying to get engagement. They're probably like, fuck this guy. He changed his name to Patty Cakes. This guy looks so stupid. I bet you everyone was clowning me. Now that I'm like getting followers now, it's like, oh, you're doing so good, man. It's different when people, people never support you when you're small. And when you start growing, they start seeing potential. Then people start supporting you. And that's the hardest part is when they don't support you

That's when everyone quits. Yeah. And you have to realize just keep doing it because it's what you want. You're not doing it for other people's validation. Yeah. I do social media because I enjoy it because I know I can market it because I know I can make money doing it. And it's my dream. Yeah. If I'm doing it for other people, I'll never, I won't last. Yeah. None of us would last. It's actually if you're like miserable doing it. Exactly. Like if you're, if you're doing it like every day, all day and you're miserable doing it, same thing with an office job. If you don't like your office job,

You're going to end up wanting to quit it. Yeah, and I think, I mean, we're going a little social media tangent, but we'll get back to it. Everyone wants to think, I feel like, really quick, like, oh, you know, I don't want to work, so I'm going to do social media. It is a job, and you have to be the right type of person. Are you going to like talking to your camera every day, being on camera every day, like having to photograph your entire life? You might not, and it is okay to work an office job. You may not like it.

putting every single bit of your life on the internet and you don't need to like it to get into fitness. I just think that's a...

Like a point to throw out there, you know? Yeah, it's... I work a lot harder now. The past, like... Okay, so remember I told you guys I started really trying on Instagram three weeks ago? Yeah. Instagram is so much harder than TikTok. Yeah. Because I actually have to be... You have to be personable. Yeah. You have to post things daily. You've been really good, though, with your TikTok videos. I've been... You're talking. I've been trying. Yeah, I've been trying. You're talking. Yeah, you're really good. You're gonna push that over to your Instagram, and it's gonna do really well. Yeah, well...

Back to... Sorry, I forgot. I'm sorry. No, that's fine. We're good. No, it's okay. We're good. We have time, actually. So, I mean, we have time to bounce back and forth. So, don't even worry. I was going to say...

It was actually Sam. It was my mom. My mom loves Sam, by the way, guys. My mom, she would send me Sam Taylor's... She would send me your stories, and she would say, you have to do something like this. So then I started taking pictures of my pre-workout before the gym, or I would tell people, yo, I'm going to make this recipe with oatmeal. Literally, I was like, Sam does it. It works perfect for her. I do the same thing, so why don't I just post it? Which now I turn into a habit. So now every single morning...

I take a picture of what I'm doing in the morning. And then right before the gym, before the gym, at the gym, it turns into like a schedule in a way. Yeah, it really is. And it's a learning curve too because if you really want to do it, it's a learning curve and you have the schedule and it's like, it turns into a job. It really is a job. Yeah. And you can't just bullshit social media. You can bullshit it for like a small amount of time. Nope.

But it's not going to last. Then you stall and people forget about you. It's not going to last. People forget. They're like, oh, that guy, Patty Cakes used to scream to the camera. Now he's just posting random pictures. Yeah. And you have to give value. If you don't give someone a value, why are they going to follow you? They don't know you. They don't like you. You're not impacting their day. So they're not going to help you. Exactly. Sorry. Tangent. No, it's all good. No, it's all good. Good points. Yeah, great points. Because it is good to hear it from like a guy's perspective. I'm hitting the table, my bad. But it is good to hear it from like a guy's perspective too because...

Like, I feel like our social medias are a little bit different than like a guy's social medias. Like you guys are all like for showing workouts and stuff like that. But like, I love to see guy pages that actually want to educate and like push, like push stuff out like that. KK fit twins. Oh,

Oh my god. Wait, good. We like them. They're amazing. Okay. Yes. I was like, wait, no KK Fitzlander. No, no, they're amazing. No, those two girls are amazing. They literally, girls market better than guys. Hands down. Girls are so much better than marketing guys. I say it all the time. Girls literally, like, if social media guys did the same thing girls did, like talked about things openly, were social, like very social with their, how am I going to say this? Very social with their following. They would be amazing.

Blowing up left and right if Jeff said giving an example David late those guys did that they post like two stories a day Yeah, they or they or they don't post for weeks. Yeah, they just they just go have falling cuz I have a body So I think that that's what's missing in terms of the guy side of fitness because we are very open about eating disorders Even the littlest struggles guys are

Cover it up. Oh, guys, the gym was so annoying today. I couldn't get a squat rack. Annoying daily struggles that just makes you personable. And a lot of guys, when they just get big, it's like...

Flex flex flex. Yeah, let me let me ride this that's it and it like whereas I don't think a lot of guys are as Open to like hey, you know what my workout was shit today. Yeah, we hate like I kind of like my mental health today I woke up I woke up and I didn't have my contacts in already. I had a shitty shower my my I ran out of toothpaste It's just like little things that sounds like there you are but I

It makes people connect with you because it seems like when you just look fit and all you do is work out, people are like, oh, it couldn't be me. I don't know if you guys have seen my old TikToks. It was right when I was like, I'm ready to drop out of college. I have a TikTok of me almost crying. We need more stuff like that from guys on social media. I grew up with sisters. I only have two sisters. My mom and my dad. My dad's not emotional, but he's like,

He's connected with his emotions, if that makes sense. So like it makes you stronger though, right? It doesn't, it doesn't make you a weak dude. Like, I mean, crying is good. I mean, I'm not going to cry in front of dudes because like dudes don't understand as I'm like, this is funny. I have a way better time opening up with females than I do with guys because girls understand emotions more. And I like to think that I can be like emotional more than other guys. And I mean, Max Taylor would hate me for this, but like, I mean, Zodiacs and like that bullshit. Like, I mean, I'm,

I'm a cancer so maybe I'm like already pre-emotional if that's I'm a cancer and I could not even tell you a single thing about those I know nothing about Zodiac yeah see I got you said Max Taylor right yeah Max Taylor was being so mean to me on live and then my mom texts me he goes who's that Max dude I don't like him she thinks he's being serious yeah I was like no he was just joking right now

Yeah, Max is funny. I got super low-key was a white girl for a while. I got out of a bad relationship. And then I started going to Starbucks every single morning. I'd literally go at 5.30 in the morning. That's how I changed my life. I was shitty in the dumps. I wasn't fat. I was 240. I was 30 pounds heavier than I am now.

And I just didn't like myself. That's why I grew my hair out. My hair's long because I was like, I'm not going to cut my hair post breakup. It's super weird. But I'm not going to cut my hair. It's like, this is, I want a man bun. That's what I wanted. You want to like change your look. I had a, I had a vision of me driving a Jeep, a four door Jeep, no doors, top off, hair flowing with Birkenstocks on. Yeah.

Swear to God, that's what I wanted. Don't you kind of have that now? Yeah, that's exactly what I am now. I need the man bun. Almost there. A few more inches. I meditated every single night. Oh, shit. I would meditate every night. I woke up. I got a job at Los Hablanos. I was a server. This is going to sound bad, but when I cheered, I didn't have a job. My mom supported me. I love that woman so much. She nurtured me. She supported me when I was doing cheer. She was like, oh, you're doing cheer. You don't need to get a job.

So I told her like, okay, I'm going to get a job. I want to like change shit. I quit cheer, which was a big move. That was a, that was hard because they were all my friends. I don't talk to any of them anymore. So they were like my support system gone, quit. Um, I got the job would wake up early as hell before all my roommates roommates sleep until like 11. Um, slowly started changing, meditated. The meditation was so crazy. When I tell you like, Max is going to hate me with this. I know for a fact, Max is going to hate me, but I got into like angel numbers and

And it was like you see like five five five four four four things like that like signs Yeah, I would like listen to it. So I uh doing this type of meditation and um I would have thoughts in my head like am I doing the right thing and I swear to god i'd be driving I'd be driving somewhere. I could be driving to the gym. I'd be like in my head I'd be just thinking about life and I would look down and say like 222 And I was like, oh shit and it still happens now. It still happens now um

i think oh my god i'm on the right path and then uh i was i was in the gym there was this girl that i saw in the gym she's gorgeous right she had a hat on blue eyes and for three weeks i like told the boys like she's amazing like she looks she looks gorgeous and there's no way you can't you couldn't pull her like none of us could uh the gym owner was like there's no way bro like she has a boyfriend and i was like oh like shot down whatever like

I was like, I, I, I was like dating around, right? Like post breakup. It was like four months. I was dating her. I was screwing around. And, um, but she was like, you know, she caught my eye. Like other girls, I was out, whatever. But she caught my eye. And, um, I walked into the gym one day and I was like, I'm going to get her number. Like I have to at least try. And I pussed out. I pussed out so bad. I like, I got super nervous and I looked up and it says, and it said like five, five, five.

And I was like, I have to fucking do this. I have to. So I asked for a number. We got into a conversation and, um, I mean like we kind of hit it off. I didn't even tell her my name. I was, I was, I don't know. I was so nervous. Yeah. I didn't even tell her my name. I got her Snapchat. I was so excited. Um, the next day when she ghosted me, she didn't talk to me for like two weeks. I was like, yeah, whatever.

She doesn't want me and I saw her in the gym again and I was like I'm not gonna talk to her like like I don't want to talk to her she goes to me and the freaking clock said 444 so I was like oh my god I have to I have to so I talked to her we really hit it off that time I secured a date and she's the whole reason why I'm doing fitness and what I'm doing now. She's your girlfriend now. Yeah.

You know what I thought? That's crazy, but you know what I thought you were going to say, too? The whole numbers thing is really cool, but I thought you were going to say her last four digits on the phone number or something was like... Oh, that'd be crazy. That's what I thought you were going to say. I was like, holy shit. I was anticipating something like that. You got cool stories. I've read all these stories. No, dude, she's amazing. I still see the numbers all the time now. Me and Nick, we were fighting. Me and the ricey-o. We were mad at each other. He was mad at me. And I was talking to Sam.

And I was like, damn, like I, like I didn't want to, I love rise. Like I was like, I, I could literally like my life would suck if I wasn't surprised. Like this is like, I literally love the brand brand and friendships. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And, um, I started seeing numbers again and I'd text, I text Nick three 33. I'm gonna text him. And I don't, I didn't want to reach out cause I was like, he doesn't like me right now. I text, I text him like 15 times. I remember I'd, I'd text him like 15 times. I'd be like, did you text him?

And you're like, yeah, but he hasn't answered. I'm like, okay, try again. Yeah, just do it again. Okay, okay. Yeah, and then now I see the numbers a lot again. Like, I see 11-11 almost every day. And 11-11 is like you're on the, like, you're literally doing, like, you're doing everything you should be doing. Keep doing it. So I'm like, perfect. Holy crap. And we're just having this conversation right now. You know what, guys? We were, this is so crazy. Like, I feel like this is, like, all, like,

like meant to be right now because earlier before this podcast we were just telling him we were like we see so much potential in you oh thank you thank you seriously like we see so much potential in you with like what you want to do down the road with this and you know what's crazy every single time we have a guest on here no matter what the like main theme or even if we're just talking about ourselves yeah everything always circles back to fitness wise business wise whatever it's

Get off your ass and go do it. Yeah, really? Like, go talk to the girl in the gym. Go quit. Everything circles back, no matter what topic. It ends with, like, some moral of the story. Do it. Do it. Do it. Get off your ass. That's literally the, every single thing just comes back. Have you guys seen the movie? It's, um, it's not Will Ferrell. He has to say yes to everything. It's called Yes Man. I think so. I don't think so. That sounds familiar. Yeah, well, essentially, like, um, I can't think of the actor. He's a super known actor. He's the guy that does, that was in Mask.

Like the green mask jim carrey. Yeah, so jim carrey has to say yes to everything everything said opportunity Yes, yes his life literally turns into like everything he ever dreamt of because he starts saying yes to opportunities Say yes to those fucking opportunities. That's literally how everything ends dude Like everything circles back to that because like literally the girl I was like Just keep that in mind for everyone listening. I wanted to ask you actually because you kept mentioning you did cheer

I loved it. And I feel like it relates well to the topic we're talking about. Did you ever get crap for that from other dudes? Yes, but this is going to sound like super arrogant, I guess, but...

Throw it out there. Do it. We're very, who cares? This is kind of arrogant, but I was already fit. I was a bigger guy at that point. I don't think I'm ugly. So I would have other guys that are like, oh, you cheer? And they're like, oh, you probably get a bunch of pussy, right? You would get that kind of thing. Guys being like, oh, you get all the girls. I'd be like, yeah, fuck it. You're like bro and down. But the little guys, like the tumblers, they would get shit on.

From other guys Because like they're more Because they're more feminine Yeah and um That's oh I have a TikTok on this Dude masculinity Does not matter On your sexual orientation At all There was guys On the cheer team That were Like okay They were gay right There was gay guys On the team

This one guy, I don't want to say his name. We'll call him Chris. Okay, Chris. Yeah, Chris, right? He was more masculine than I was. He talked about girls like I would talk about girls. But he was gay. He had a boyfriend. Like him and his boyfriend have been dating for like nine, ten years or something. And he would like literally, he would look at his boyfriend, we'll call him. Well, they had the same name. So, yeah.

Chris number two. Yeah, Chris number two, okay? Chris and Chris number two. Yeah, he would literally look at Chris number two and he'd be like, damn, look at his ass. Like, he would talk about him like a guy would talk about their girlfriend, right? Yeah. And it made me realize, like, oh my God, like, these guys are literally men, but they're just like men. Yeah. There's no difference with them at all. They're just like dudes. Yeah. And then, like, I wasn't homophobic, but...

Was like that typical dude in high school. It's almost just like uneducated. Yeah, exactly You can't immature immaturity for sure like you can't be associated with gay guys cuz then you're a gay guy That's so stupid. That's part of the toxic toxic toxic masculinity like why couldn't you just have respect because You were good on the cheer team. There's someone not respect because they think you've got with the girls. Oh, yeah Exactly some some of my best friends in college were gay guys super open dudes tell you the way it is and

Help you out with girls you like to do there was do gay guys are great I uh, I got I This is something I was telling the boys this I literally when I go clubbing. There's a club in mexico It's a gay club. It's a three-story gay club, dude. That's the best club. I only go to the gay club It's so fun. You have you have transgender people walking around giving you shots. It's so much fun You could like it's just super bad last time I was there. I was flirting with like the transgender lady uh

And I was like I went up to her And I was like Hey baby girl Like I was drunk as shit I was with my girlfriend And she's giving us free shots Cause they They love it Like especially when you're like A masculine guy And you're not scared To just like let loose And be fun Dude It's so much more fun too It's just People are way too like Straight forward Stereotypical

Stereotypical. Stereotypical, yes. There's so many guys, especially with, I would imagine a lot, even though we've said big gym guys are actually like so down to earth. I think they're more. People that care about the gym. They're so down to earth. I think guys that. Keep hitting this, I'm sorry. No, you're fine. I think guys that are super into the gym and have like body image issues.

Are the closest thing to understanding how females are? Yeah, in reality and I feel like any struggle in general because a lot of people start No one starts spending three hours in the gym and downing 400 milligrams of caffeine because they love their life. Yeah. Yes, seriously No one just starts that because they're happy. Yeah, if you're happy you're gonna continue doing what you're doing You're not gonna do something weird like that jacked shredded

They have a background story. Even like Bradley. Bradley has a background. Any big dude, any big girl, trust me, they did not get into it because they love their life. So I feel like they're very understanding of just any struggle at all. And especially because they know it's not easy to reach a certain... Especially body stuff too. I've heard that guys into the gym are actually more...

Understanding of girls bodies and don't want girls to be like perfect because they know the work it takes to like have a good body Yeah, or it takes work and time like my uh, my girlfriend is she's jacked like she's fit I did my show and she she picked it up and she got her shit together. Like she looks amazing, right? Big shoulders. She has amazing physique. She's a great genetics. She thinks she looks terrible. I

Do not understand why she looks great right and then I think of it. I also think I look terrible Yeah, so it's just the same thing when you say things about yourself. Yeah, she's probably like it's going both back It's like oh, I like stop like you look amazing, but in reality. It's like she thinks the same thing about herself Terrible I'm so happy like

I really want, like, this type of topic to be more normalized because even with, like, my brothers, too, like, I find it so hard for, like, us females. Like, it's so much easier for us to, like, educate and, like, get information out there. But the guy side, it's like, just drink your protein, lift heavy, like, do all this stuff. Like, stopping a bitch. Yeah, don't be a pussy, bro. Like, guys, show your damn emotions. Like, show, like...

The anxiety you have sometimes. Show the mental blocks you have. Like, it's so important that the guy side becomes more emotional. Girls, like, the toxic body stuff obviously happens on the girl side. But it's, like...

So BS workouts get promoted and BS diet plans. What happens with these guys and the need to be big, but big and shredded, and big and shredded is difficult as hell. If you want to be big and shredded, majority of the time you're going to be taking something. Exactly. I was leading to the fact that it's not just going to lead someone to do a stupid workout plan.

It's gonna lead someone to an unhealthy drugs. Yeah, exactly and that that's a big thing that so I had always known from a young age I was like 15. I knew all these fuckers were taking steroids like I'm not dumb I haven't I've known I look I research things. I have Google. I was not stupid I was I was in high school and I knew I was gonna have to take steroids I was in high school and I was like I know I'm gonna have to I have decent genetics like I'm already like a bigger guy now like I'm six foot like I'm 200 pounds natural and

I was like, I mean, I was chubby, but I was strong. I was at Ben Street 15. They lifted 550, squatted 405 for three at 19, which is strong for a 19-year-old. Like, that's pretty strong for a 19-year-old. I mean, that's pretty good to me. Yeah, I mean, like, yeah. I mean, those big numbers, yeah. Couldn't be me, so. Yeah, well, I was like, um...

It was like the the moment of truth was like, okay, like I I want to at least try something I want to at least take something And I started with SARMs like every guy always takes that SARMs selective androgen receptor modulator It's supposed to be like a pill you take a pill and it only like this is quote-unquote It only attaches to them to the muscle receptor, which is complete bullshit I um was madly in love with this girl at the time taking these SARMs

And uh, it was like the first time I was ever gonna like actually like have sex with her and I was like so excited My my johnson didn't work. I the little patty wasn't about it at that time He couldn't work and that's when I realized i'm fucking myself up I was like i'm like taking these pills are fucking me up. So I stopped super emotional I was depressed shit for like six weeks

My mom was even asking if I was okay. There was one point where I walked up to like the top of my Dorm, it was a four-story dorm And I was like dude like I could fucking like like end it Like I literally was like I can end this shit and that sounds super bad looking back on it I was in a really dark place getting played by this girl My friends were hated me because the girl I was getting played by was also my roommate's girlfriend at the time It was really messy story, right? I did stupid shit. I was young and um, and then i'd taken those hormones and

And I completely destroyed myself. And I remember like it was that moment that I was like, what the fuck am I doing? I stayed with my sister for a few days, tried to get my shit together, hated my life. Then moved back home for like a whole summer, slowly felt better. And then ended up just taking testosterone. Like honestly, like the way I started taking that, the story is crazy. My roommate just walked into my room with a fucking syringe. And I was like, you're never going to be fucking ready. Either do it now or you never do it.

And I was like, all right, fuck like you're right. I've been saying I was gonna do it for three months I bought this shit and might as well not even kidding seven weeks later. I was like wow I was I destroyed more hormones when I was 19. I felt amazing. I had ambition again Like green was green blue looked good. The sky was amazing. I could smell things I realized I was depressed for like a full year because I had shot my hormones down so low and I never fully recovered and um

This is just for any guys watching or even girls because I know girls may look into PDs. Don't fucking take it. Don't take it. Is this your first time being super open about this right now or have you talked about this before on like your platform? Yeah, no. I started talking about it like two weeks ago. Okay. So I was going to say please...

Take this with you, like this entire thing being super open, back with you because I want you to, you know, potentially save younger boys out there. Oh, man. And it's super bad now. Yeah. It is so bad now. TikTok culture for anyone is toxic as crap. Fuck, it's so bad. This is just, it's nuts what it could lead people to do. And I think the story, like I'm, I did not know we were going to get such great stories. Yeah.

I have so I went through so much shit and I The only reason why I'm where I'm at now is because I self-reflected if I didn't self-reflect I would be the same Freaking douchebag. I was like three years ago I would like doing all the stuff that I've done has taught me a lot and I mean I'm still gonna do stupid shit We all do things but if you don't learn from it like you're not you're not maturing. You're not you're not actually like growing I just got the chills

I think it's kind of cold in here, but no, I know what you just said gave me the chill. Oh, yes It's fucking cold. Yeah, but anyway, um the the number one thing I think from like the hormone shit was Definitely mental side effects. Oh, I was unhappy Nothing was good enough. I remember oh I could get my mom could transfer me $100 Oh, like here you here you go. Like here you go, honey. Like um, here's like grocery money and I'd be upset and

Nothing was good. I I hated everything I go to the gym workouts terrible didn't have I mean didn't have sex for months Like I I literally was so self-conscious about everything. I get my estrogen was probably through the roof I was like breaking out. I I was the smallest I'd ever gone. I got fat. I got chubby um

It was it was a bad point, but if I wasn't there I would never be where I am now, so I'm grateful for it Yeah, I mean I feel I've gone through um I struggle with depression a lot and I feel there's days where it's like I literally hate everything like I hate everything I'd be in the gym and like there just be someone standing behind me and be like oh He's making me so mad. Yeah, yeah for no reason guys just standing there, but I'm like oh He's just pissing me off, but exactly it it makes you grow into

Into like knowing everything you know and seeing life in like two different ways and it makes you appreciate like the good Yeah, well so much more. How do you guys feel about smoking like weed before the gym? I can't oh I've had really bad experience. I don't I don't oh I heard about your experience I was gonna say um

I had a really bad experience on prep. Because I was doing it because I hated everyone. I ruined so many relationships. My mom, my sister, nicest people in the world. Like, they're sweet. I hated them. I was, they would call me, how's your day? Mm-hmm, it's good. Dry. That's how I was when I was just like. I was so bad with them. That's happened to anyone that's under eating. Under eating. Guys, girls, when you under.

When I under eat... You treat your body like shit. Let's just put it out there as in general. Yeah, if you treat your body like crap... You crash diet, yo-yo diet? Anything. Anything. Or probably if you eat too much garbage. No matter what. If you're treating your body like garbage and you're like, hmm, why am I a bitch to everyone I know? Maybe because you're treating yourself... Why does it feel like my life is spiraling downhill and I'm not in control of anything? Yeah. You're treating yourself like garbage. I relate to that so hard. Like back in high school or even like the beginning of college, like I...

I was a bitch to everyone. And it's so crazy because like I get so much crap from like my hometown friends or not friends because my friends would never talk to me about me like this, but like random hometown people being like she was such a bitch in high school or college. I'm like, I was not the same person. Like I literally was like in a very dark place. I was depressed. Like I was depressed. I under ate. I had an eating disorder. Like I was not the person I am today.

Yeah, oh five years difference. Yeah 18 to 20 20 to 22. Oh my it's it's a light years difference. Give me a year ago today I look at my one year goes today on snapchat and i'm like my mental space. Who are you? You look at yourself though It's not even like my body's different. It's seriously like mentally i'm a completely different person than I was a year ago Which is crazy because with like the body image stuff you can look exactly the same but you're like wow back then I thought Yeah, you're like I thought I was like

And then you look the same now. And then you look in the mirror like, oh, I look good. This is, this would be like, I'm not trying to shame anyone with this, but like if you don't look back on something from a year or two years ago and you don't think like, damn, I was so much different then, then like you're not growing. Yeah.

yeah you're not like you like and you want to grow because if you're not growing like this is super shitty i don't want people from my hometown to hate me but if you're stuck in your hometown since i was in i can if you're if you're still there doing the same thing you never like not saying you have to go to college but you never like took a leap took that one jump off the cliff that everyone needs to do in their life

You're stuck. And you need to take that jump. When people like from, especially moving out of like high school, like when people are like, oh, you've changed. You're like, no shit. Well, yeah, of course I've changed. Like, why would I be the same person? I didn't like myself then. You don't have to like who I've become to be, but. At least give it a chance. I'm not the same person. I wouldn't even want, if you told me, if someone from my school was like, oh, you're exactly the same. I'd be like,

So you guys both moved to Austin. Yes. Moving to Austin has done what? Changed your guys' life? I've been here for two weeks. And she's a different person from a month ago. My comments on my pictures, everyone's like...

I can literally tell you're so much happier. Yeah, you glow so different now. I was I can see the transformation It's been two weeks the biggest choice the biggest choices like you might be scared You might be like, I don't know if it's gonna work literally take the fucking chance because it always Yeah, it's always yeah That's why I'm just going for it. That's like a Nick has been time with the Dallas for the past year and

The only reason I have it is because I don't want to leave behind my girlfriend, right? I feel bad because I'm her support system. She supported me. Like, I feel bad, right? I couldn't do that. So I have, like, two more months. And then the second I'm moving down here, like, I am definitely moving down here for a fact.

Want to I want to make my I want to create my life and you can't create your life doing the same bullshit I can't wake up in that same apartment Look out the window and see nothing because that's how it is when you when you're somewhere you're not supposed to be You open up that blind every morning and you just look and you see nothing you're gonna be nothing. That's how I think of it I'm in a shitty spot

Don't like where I met where I am. So I'm gonna be a shitty person with myself I don't make a schedule back home why because I don't fucking like waking up where I'm at like I don't I don't like being where I'm at So it's like I wake up and I'm like, oh time to shower and brush my teeth versus like if I was down here I'm waking up and I'm gonna fucking get it because I'm where I want to understand the way like I feel like you're in my mind right now at home I'd be like F this like whatever like

Like, oh, I guess I'm going to go to the gym. Like, oh, it doesn't matter what time I go. Guess what? Here, I'm literally working at 7 a.m. You have a schedule. I grind. I feel like at the end of the day, I've been working all day and I got my shit done. See, the hardest thing for me was back home, all my friends are doing different things. They all, like...

My best friend, he wanted to do fitness. That's all I wanted to do. We both, those are our dreams. Yeah, you're a best friend. We promised each other we're going to do it right. We were going to do it. He took the other route. He's not doing it anymore. Yeah.

It's hard because I'm doing it and it takes a different level of commitment for what we're doing. Then I'm going to wake up and go to work or go to school for like this little sit time. Then I'm done versus us. It's all day, which like I sounds crazy, but like I'm always on my phone. I'm always thinking of things I could be doing because I'm,

Not every single video does good. Not every single post does good and you chase that like getting better every post So you're going to want to continue doing better and better for your followers So I think it's a consistent like every day every hour kind of grind with the fitness and social media now We're almost approaching an hour, which is the end of our podcast So i'm gonna ask you one more thing if you had one advice for like guys listening about like getting fit getting in the gym Like what do you think it would be like one like main piece of advice?

Just don't do the bulking and cutting bullshit. Just be healthy and focus on like I know body weight workouts sound super done I wish I would have focused on stretching. I wish I would have focused on Actually doing body weight workouts because now I'm dealing with injuries now. I'm walking around like an old man I don't feel I don't feel healthy now. So oh and PDs stay away as long as possible You're gonna want to do it. I mean, it's fun. It's it's like I

You're putting jet fuel in your truck. It's fun. But make sure you're making the right choices. And the time's... Oh, yeah, two seconds. It's fine. It's not going to cut off. Oh, I thought it was cutting off. No, it's not going to cut off. I was like, we're going to end. It's just we normally end at like an hour. Oh, okay. So I don't feel rushed. No, no rush. We just normally end at like an hour. Yeah, okay. So I think that's important for guys to hear to stretch because I feel like people think that's like beta to not like warm up and stretch. I never stretched because I literally like... I hate...

Hated stretching. I thought I looked like a girl stretching now. It's like I enjoy it. But okay. Um back to the advice Yeah, um, this is gonna be super like don't be scared of actually like interpreting the way you feel about certain things like emotions, so Emotions are fucking normal, dude. Like this is me talking to a dude. Like if i'm talking to my son, bro

Emotions are fucking normal. You feel them because if you don't feel it, you're going to bottle that shit up. The second you start bottling up, that shit's going to explode. And when it explodes, that's when you're in rock bottom. Literally, you're not going to get anywhere doing that. You experience those emotions right now and you're actually going to grow from it.

Yeah. And that's something guys don't fucking do. Guys do not, never do you sit back and you're like, Oh, like did that actually bother me when she did that? Or when he did that? You don't, you bottle that shit up. Like short guys, especially for my short guys out there.

My short kings. You guys are so worried about your height. I'm telling you, bro, no one fucking cares. Hey, guys should go to therapy. No one cares. Like, insecurities. Yeah, insecurities is huge. I'm insecure and I don't even know what my insecurities are from. I feel like I look ugly with long hair, but I told myself I was going to grow it. I don't know. It's just so many, so many things. Yeah, it's like guys and girls relate more than I think people understand. Really? No, I agree. It's just being human. We're all human. Especially in terms of fitness journeys. Like,

It's not harder or easier on one than the other. Yeah, we all have a sense of, like, being connected with someone else, too. That's why, like, you two are, like, really good friends. Are we? Oh, are we? What? No, you guys. Oh, wait, only. This is all business. No, yeah. You guys are great friends. You guys have a relationship with each other, right? That's something everyone wants, whether that's with another, like, whether that's with your girlfriend or that's your best friend or that's with your parents. The same fucking thing. It's a relationship.

Everyone needs at least that one really good relationship. And if you don't have that, just trust me, be honest with yourself.

Be open and eventually it's going to come don't look for it. And when you look for things that never comes your way If you if you force the fitness stuff, it would have never worked. Yeah, you kind of just ran with it Yeah, you just gotta run with everything so you can give one last plug for yourself and all your stuff in case they Forgot how to find you since the beginning. We'll have it linked down below as well. Just patty cakes on everything Yeah, it's patty cakes. You get patty cakes fit whatever. Yeah, um go to the podcast page because we will definitely post um

Oh, will you be posting a picture? No. Yeah. Yeah. Or that, or we can take a picture. Yeah. We'll take a picture. We'll post up on the podcast page. But on Friday, I guess, or whenever you listen to this, go to Patty's Instagram, whatever his last picture is that he posted, comment and say, I'm from the podcast. Go comment and be like, I'm from the podcast. And shout out to my mom. Yes. Shout out to my mom. I guarantee Patty's mom.

Oh, she's definitely going to listen. Sam, say hi to her. Hi. But yeah, so if you're listening, run over to his Instagram, leave a comment, say it from the podcast because we like to see who stayed to the end. Yeah, that'd be great. So yeah, go do that. Keep a lookout. Follow us on the podcast page. Everyone's socials will be linked below. I think this was a great episode. Yeah, it was a good episode. Yeah, I could, we're probably going to keep talking after this. No, we really are. We really are. Maybe we'll do

Maybe you'll be a reoccurring guest if you guys like it. You know, maybe we'll do a round two one day, but I think it's time to. Until next time. Love you guys.