Career development expert Kimberly B. Cummings went from studying her bosses to becoming one, and that process shaped how she approaches being a leader at work. Whether you're managing employees or shaping your relationship with your boss by managing up, Cummings shares tips on how to do both.*The audio portion of this episode was produced by Clare Marie Schneider,) with audio engineering support from Neal Rauch.We'd love to hear from you. Leave us a voicemail at 202-216-9823, or email us at [email protected]. For more Life Kit, subscribe to our newsletter).*Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)