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Jens Stoltenberg: Navigating global security, crisis leadership, and staying calm under pressure

2024/10/16
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延斯·斯托尔滕贝格:世界正变得越来越危险,面临着来自俄罗斯、中国等国的多重安全挑战。乌克兰战争是当前最主要的威胁,结束这场战争的关键在于让俄罗斯明白其无法在战场上取胜,从而促使他们谈判达成协议,确保乌克兰的主权和独立。北约盟国必须继续向乌克兰提供军事支持,但同时也要谨慎处理乌克兰使用武器打击俄罗斯境内的军事目标的问题。 关于中国,我越来越担忧其日益增长的侵略性和与俄罗斯的密切关系。中国在南海地区的行动、对台湾的威胁以及向俄罗斯提供军事物资的行为都对全球安全构成威胁。我们必须在与中国进行经济往来时,在安全和贸易之间取得平衡,避免过度依赖中国。 在中东问题上,我认为解决问题的唯一途径是建立一个两国方案,为以色列人和巴勒斯坦人分别建立一个国家。 欧盟加强国防政策是好事,但前提是不能削弱北约。欧盟不应试图与北约竞争,而应加强与北约的合作。 太空和网络空间日益军事化,各国需要加强合作,确保太空安全,并建立平衡、透明和多边的军备控制机制,以应对人工智能和网络安全带来的挑战。 在领导国家应对危机时,保持冷静、寻求帮助和支持至关重要。我个人在处理危机时,会先压制自己的情绪,专注于完成任务,并在事后处理自己的感受。 与强势领导人达成共识的关键在于认真对待他们的担忧,并在双方都同意的核心问题上取得进展。 挪威的财政规则是一个成功的例子,它确保了石油财富的长期可持续利用,并防止了经济过热。

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The world has become more dangerous due to the war in Ukraine, escalating conflicts in the Middle East, and increased global rivalry between great powers. NATO has strengthened to protect its members in this unpredictable environment.
  • Increased global instability
  • Full-scale war in Europe
  • NATO's strengthening

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In this episode, we are honored to welcome Jens Stoltenberg, who recently concluded his tenure after ten years as Secretary General of NATO. He has had a long, impactful career within Norwegian politics, including serving as Prime Minister for a total of nine years. Jens shares his unique insights on global security challenges, the importance of strong alliances, and the evolving geopolitical landscape. From discussing the ongoing conflict in Ukraine to reflecting on how the world has shifted during his time at NATO, Jens offers thoughtful perspectives on leadership, decision-making, compromise, and his deep belief in the power of collaboration.

In Good Company is hosted by Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management. New full episodes every Wednesday, and don't miss our Highlight episodes every Friday.

The production team for this episode includes PLAN-B's Pål Huuse and Niklas Figenschau Johansen. Background research was conducted by Une Solheim.

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