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Dr. Victor Carrión: How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)

2024/9/23
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Dr. Carrión explains the spectrum of stress from beneficial to traumatic, emphasizing the importance of understanding stressors and the role of avoidance in PTSD.
  • Stress operates on an inverted U-shaped curve, with an optimal point for performance and health.
  • Traumatic stress is a type of stress that threatens physical integrity and requires management.
  • PTSD feeds on avoidance; pretending trauma didn't happen can complicate treatment.

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In this episode, my guest is Dr. Victor Carrión, M.D., the Vice-Chair of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford School of Medicine and a world expert on the understanding and treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) in children, adolescents, and adults.

We explain why, as children, we are particularly vulnerable to PTSD and how stress and trauma affect the developing brain. We also discuss how PTSD is related to attention-deficient hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and vice versa.

Dr. Carrión shares effective therapeutic interventions for PTSD, including cue-centered therapy (CCT) and how to create a custom “toolbox” to help you identify triggers and manage stress. We discuss an emerging curriculum that combines yoga and mindfulness to help people with PTSD improve their stress resilience, mood, and sleep.

The episode will provide listeners of all ages with a clear understanding of PTSD and effective strategies to heal from it.

Access the full show notes for this episode at hubermanlab.com).

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Timestamps

00:00:00 Dr. Victor Carrión

00:01:56 Sponsors: Eight Sleep, BetterHelp & Waking Up

00:06:19 Stress, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), Avoidance

00:11:41 Stressors, Perseverate; Children & PTSD

00:16:13 Transgenerational Trauma

00:19:20 Post-Traumatic Stress Injury (PTSI); Children, Dissociation & Cortisol

00:27:17 Cortisol & Brain, Post-Traumatic Stress Symptoms

00:31:48 Sponsor: AG1

00:33:19 PTSD, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)

00:40:17 PTSD & ADHD; Identifying Cues, Triggers & Interventions

00:47:49 PTSI, Autonomic Nervous System Seesaw; Sleep

00:53:11 PTSD, Brain Development & Kids; Cue-Centered Therapy

01:02:37 Sponsor: Function

01:04:25 Limbic Pathway, Inner Dialogue, Therapy Toolbox

01:12:34 Agency & Control, Deliberate Cold Exposure, Narrative

01:18:11 Custom Toolbox Development; Energy

01:26:32 Tool: 4-Corner Square Response, Understanding Cues

01:32:59 Tool: “Creating Space,” Feelings Thermometer, Analyzing 4-Corners

01:38:47 Social Media, Boundaries

01:46:07 School, Yoga & Mindfulness Curriculum

01:55:31 Implementing School Mindfulness Programs, Sleep

02:00:52 Barriers to School Programs

02:06:08 Redefining Success, Identity

02:10:33 Resilience & Adaptation; Organoids, Epigenetic Treatment Response

02:21:42 Listening to Kids & Adults

02:24:19 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

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