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Throwback Thursday: Doobie & Hylyte - Sex, Drugs, and the Music Industry

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Key Insights

Why did Doobie and Highlight decide to sign with a label after being successful independently?

They felt they had reached their ceiling independently and wanted to expand their reach to a larger audience. The deal they signed provided control and allowed them to maintain their identity while gaining more opportunities.

What challenges did Doobie and Highlight face when they first started touring with Jelly Roll?

They had no prior experience with touring and didn't know how shows were run. Being on tour with Jelly Roll taught them the ropes and provided valuable business insights.

How did Doobie's song 'When the Drugs Don't Work' contribute to his success?

The song went viral on YouTube, garnering over 90 million views, which significantly boosted his visibility and career without the backing of a label.

What advice do Doobie and Highlight have for artists considering signing with a label?

They advise artists to thoroughly understand the deal they are signing, ensuring it benefits them and doesn't strip them of control or their identity. It's crucial to be knowledgeable about the terms and not just sign out of eagerness.

How has Doobie's approach to music evolved since he started?

Doobie's music has become more diverse, incorporating rock, hip-hop, and various other styles. He no longer sees himself solely as a rapper but as an artist open to different genres, including country.

What significant change did Doobie make in his personal life recently?

Doobie has been sober for over two and a half years, a decision he made primarily for his son and to improve his quality of life.

What are Doobie and Highlight's future goals for their music careers?

They aim to play in stadiums, achieve more plaques recognizing their success, and continue elevating their careers while staying healthy.

How does Highlight describe the growth of his clothing line, Holy Center?

Highlight describes Holy Center as a lifestyle brand that has grown organically without much initial investment. It represents the idea that nobody is perfect and has expanded to include a wine line.

Chapters

Doobie and Highlight share their early encounters with Jelly Roll and how they began their journey in the music industry.
  • Doobie and Highlight met Jelly Roll through a mutual connection in Columbus, Ohio.
  • Highlight initially worked as a DJ and camera operator for Jelly Roll.
  • The duo's first show together was in Columbus, marking the beginning of their touring career.

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I say sexy hoes. What's up you sexy hoes? What is it?

What is it? What's up, you sexy hoes? You're now listening to another... One more time. What's up, you sexy hoes? You're now listening to another episode of Dumb Blonde. What's up, all you sexy bitches? You're now listening to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Yeah. Is this thing on? Oh.

All right, gentlemen coming to main stage next this is bunny get up there. She's got a tornado of titties coming your way Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J Fox So get up there and throw throw throw them dollars Dude, that is fucking iconic. What's up? You sexy motherfuckers. Welcome to another episode of dumb blonde today I have family in the house. My motherfucking brothers came to visit me highlight and doobie. What?

- What's up, baby? - Hello, I can't wait to find out what's about to happen. - I'm kinda nervous. - Aw, don't be nervous. You guys literally have known me for what, seven years now? - Exactly. - Is that exactly?

No, I'm saying exactly. That's why I'm nervous. But it is exactly. It's been seven years. It's crazy, right? Has it been seven years? Yeah. Time flies, dude. I was just talking about you guys on the podcast I did last night. I was saying that people don't realize that we have hella history together. Not only us, but fucking you and Jay. And you guys go way the fuck back. So for people who don't know who you guys are and who you are, Doobie, why don't you guys just give us a brief intro of who you are? Well, my name is Doobie. Hi.

- I come from Columbus, Ohio. You are that ugly. - What do you do, Doobie? You're a rapper? - I make music, man. - You make music? - Make a little rap, rock and roll here and there. - Yeah, you gotta party. - Party full time. - What about you, that was it? - Yeah, that's it, man. You go, it's your turn. - My name's Highlight.

I'm Bunny's brother. Yes. From Columbus, Ohio. I'm a stripper. Have sex. Manage this guy. I love it. A weenie boy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Drop it off. Nah, drops it off. Drops the dick off. Mr. Drop off. Nah, but uh... Mr. Pack is delivered. That's your name. Facts. Mr. FedEx. Yeah, that's it. Signed, sealed, delivered. There it is. Gotcha. So let's take it back to the beginning. So...

Was it you and Jay that met first? When I say Jay, I'm talking about Jelly. But was it you and Jelly that met first or was Doobie already an artist? Like, I don't really know the beginning of you guys. I mean, I'm sure he was an artist, but yeah, it was me and Jelly first. And so you used to be Jay's DJ. DJ started out doing camera work. I did everything for real. But yeah, me and Jelly met probably...

Two years, maybe three years before I met Doobie. Maybe four. 13 years ago. Yeah, it was a long time. Yeah, that's a long time ago. Gosh. In the back of the Suburban. Oh my God. What about Bertha? That was after that. Oh my God. Yeah, Suburban was...

Jelly, Real, Rest in Peace Mondo, Jerry G. And the bourbon. And I knew none of them. How did you guys meet? You guys just rolled up one day at a party and they were there? Nah, he had a show in Columbus and there was a dude I think that brought him. And I think Jelly needed a DJ. So they reached out to me and then after I did the show the next day he was like, bro you should come to Nashville. Came to Nashville and then that was it.

And the rest is history. And you guys literally toured for how long together? Six years, maybe. Was that about right? Yeah. I would say roughly. I remember being in high school and the Whiskey Weed and Waffle House tape was on live mixtapes, right? And I didn't even know Highlight yet. And that's how I found out about Jelly Roll.

So I was on live mixtapes. I said, Whiskey Ween Waffle House. And it had the logo, so it was super catchy. And I was like, oh, Highlight's from Columbus. This is crazy. And so to me, he was like DJ Drama or somebody like that from where I was from. I had a studio session one day, and he just walked in, asked for a show or something. And I was like, fangirling, like, what the hell is Light doing in here?

You're a boy. Super cool. You're a boy. He was fanboying. Yeah. So you were doing music before you met Highlight, though. Yeah. How long had you been doing music? Were you just starting out? At that time, I was still, I had just turned 18 like a week before that. Right. So I was doing music, but it was just like mainly, like I was doing talent shows and things like that. I had a whole different rap name.

everything it wasn't what was your first rap name it was little edub okay because your name's eric yeah eric williams so we're giving out government names on the podcast they'll find it out eventually yeah i know they will motherfuckers are crazy but yeah and then light um obviously him being with jelly yeah introduced that uh well actually no i'm gonna be real jelly called you

What do you say? Jelly called you when you posted me the first time. I don't want to say it verbatim because it's funny as hell. He was like, who's that other white motherfucker you fucking with over there? Yeah, he was fucking with the dude at first, but he wasn't fucking with the dude. That was his little jealous dream. He's like, there's only one white guy here. It was funny as hell, though. But then, nah, he definitely welcomed me with open arms. My first show was with you and Jelly at Evolution in Columbus, Ohio, I believe. I know.

Different dude, but it wasn't it. It wasn't now. I mean, like compared to what it is now, just to see you guys' growth is fucking insane. You guys just sold out. What is the hometown venue that you guys were in just now that you played?

Yeah. You guys just sold that out. Like you guys are, and you guys are in LA. Like it's just crazy. So let's talk about once you, so you guys toured with Jay, was Jay like your first like main tour that you had gone on and you were like an opening act or had you have done that before? Jelly was the first person to give me an opportunity to,

um at all like especially in the tour life and all that and stuff like obviously highlight made that connection and he played a super significant role in that as well but shout out highlight though he's a fucking amazing dj he's got just a one-of-a-kind voice and i think that's what everybody has always loved about you is your voice appreciate that you're welcome no it's funny because when we go to mcdonald's or somewhere and he goes to order his food they'll be like

Up to the next window, ma'am. Oh, what the fuck? You don't even sound like a female. That's great. That's where we started.

- That's crazy. - That's one. - I'm just saying, man. I'm just saying. - Aw. - But now, yeah, Jelly was the first artist I ever went on tour with. Honestly, being on tour with Jelly showed me how to tour. I never had been on a tour before. Didn't know how shows ran. You have this whole idea in your head before it's time for you to go out there and do it yourself. And then, you know, being around them two definitely had helped a lot.

taught you a lot of business tips too and just everything the fucking music industry is just fucking crazy right now that you guys are out there on your own that shit's fucking wild right like you guys were always on your own but I feel like you guys had like a cocoon with each other even Jay with you guys you guys just had like a family you know and it was like

You guys just protected each other and then you know you guys branched out on your own and we went through a bunch of shit that we had to learn from the music industry and I think you guys probably had to go through that too right? Just recently. What happened? Fuck them.

Can I cuss on this? No. You cannot fucking cuss on my fucking podcast. Fuck those guys. Fuck those guys. Nah, we definitely... I think it would be good, a good look. You don't have to say names or anything like that, but you can talk about kind of like just touch base on it. Just because artists that admire you and that are coming up, like they can kind of use your story to kind of see what to do and not to do. Perfect. You want me to go? You can go. I mean, it's really like...

When Opportunity presented itself to me and Doobie, it was more of like we were excited. It depends where you come from as well. Coming from Columbus, no one has ever made it as far as we've gotten from there. So when Opportunity presented itself, it was like, bro, we got to. You feel me? But just know what you're signing.

You know what I'm saying? Know who you're dealing with. Oh, yeah. Because it was just a situation. It wasn't that bad, but it just presented itself again at a time when we didn't want to deal with it. Right. So...

Yeah, just be careful. I think a lot of artists get eager to sign with labels. That's, yeah. I think they don't read the fine print because, you know, they're just so excited to say, hey, I signed a fucking record deal that they don't even care that they're signing a deal with the devil. Yeah, I think that's the main issue with artists. Any artist in the world's whole main goal is, oh, I want to get signed. I want to be a millionaire or whatever.

it's always along the same lines, right? And so out of, like you're saying, being eager and excitement and things, you're like, oh, this is the first deal I've ever been presented. This is it. It's gotta be. This is the main thing. But people don't realize it's not about the money. It's about the situation.

and knowledge of what you're doing. If you're signing your life away or signing a deal that doesn't necessarily benefit you and it only benefits them, but you lack the knowledge just because you're excited, you find yourself stuck for a few years and at the end of the day, you can't do nothing about it. You got to fulfill the deal. And sometimes for some artists, it's too late.

- And it's like once again where we come from, it's like you don't wanna miss the opportunity. So it's like that's that. You're in a limbo with it like, "Ah, what if I don't take it? "What if what happened?" - What if another one doesn't come? - Yeah, it's like you just, yeah. - Yeah, as an artist that's gotta be probably the hardest feeling being stuck with a label or a company that isn't in your best interest. It's gotta feel like you're trapped.

Yeah. Like I would fucking hate that. I'd go buck wild. Fucking burn this motherfucker down, Pookie. Yeah, thanks. Like for sure. But as far as a story, it probably wouldn't change it though. It was definitely part of the story. Yeah. Well, I mean, it helped him grow as a businessman, you know, and it like you learn, you gain knowledge and wisdom. Yeah. Yeah, I'm actually thankful for that situation. Yeah.

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Really, we just kind of used the same formula. And, you know, one day we woke up, one of my songs went viral, which helped tremendously. Which is what song? When the Drugs Don't Work. It's over 90 million on YouTube. Yeah.

And that's without a label or with a label? That was without. So I just signed, what, four months ago? Yeah. So all of our success that's happened up to date, even still right now because I haven't even released...

Nothing with my new label, but one single, my second one with them. Are we allowed to say who the label is? Yeah, yeah. So I'm signed to Black Noise in partnership with Big Machine. Okay, awesome. But yeah, everything up until four months ago has all been just me and him. Yeah. Just me, him, and the homies, a group of our friends who just chasing the same dream.

Would you recommend an artist to stay independent or sign? The situation. It just depends on the situation. It's the situation. You know, like the deal we signed, obviously I'm not going to go into logistics or whatever, but it was...

it was perfect for us and it made sense. It wasn't necessarily about the money. It was about, you know, to us. Right. Having control. Do you care? You know what I'm saying? Are we going to be able to be ourselves and continue what we've already built? Which is a huge thing. Without losing it. You know what I'm saying? It was those things that mattered to us and we came to an agreement and I signed because I felt comfortable and that was the main thing with me. It's always like a...

It's hard to say this because you can still be independent and do your thing, but it's like, how big do you want to be? And you gotta give up some. You hit a ceiling. Yeah, you give up some to gain more. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yeah, just how big do you want to be? Because they block certain corners to where you can't get to as an artist. No, that is so real. And I don't think a lot of artists realize that because that is exactly what happened with Daddy is you get to a point in your career where you can only do so much on your own. And like the...

powers that be the higher ups you have to have that name behind you if you want to be able to get on the radio like radio is so old school like people don't realize how the spinning records and is so old school the way that they put people on the radio i don't even know if i'm allowed to be talking about this again but whatever here we go whistleblower

um but it's just there's so many politics that people don't realize that if you don't have because some people you know got mad at jay for signing and they're like oh you sold out no it's like we're trying to go to the next level we've already gotten to all that we can be we we want to go further you know and it's not about selling out it's about trying to reach more of the masses and a lot of people don't realize that

Definitely. Definitely got to play ball. Yeah. I had to literally tell myself that because you get like as somebody who's been successful independently, you always have that that dark cloud. I want to say like, oh, you're not allowed to sign because then if you sign, you're no longer, you know, you're not you're not the shit to me no more because you sold out. And it's like, dude.

How much better do you really want for me? Right. That's why you got to tone that out. Yeah, absolutely. If you could describe your music to people, what would you say that your sound is? Oh, man. That was a hell of a question. Sexual entertainment. Yeah. Own genre. That's probably your

All right, cool. Yeah. I was going to cut them balls DJing on the table, just the ball sack going. I don't know, man. I don't know. Do you think you can even put you in a box? Or do you feel like you're just growing so much that it's hard to even put a label on you? Yeah, I'm like...

I'm so everywhere when it comes to music. I do know you infuse a lot of rock into music. Yeah, I would say like when I tell people to explain it, I'm like, it's like rock hip hop. But...

I do so many different styles and I don't really consider myself a rapper all the time. I don't consider myself a singer or a pop star or anything like I'll do a country song tomorrow and be fine with that. Yeah, you guys should. So we were just talking about that on the way. Totally should. Just funny. Put on some Leather Chaps highlight. She always want me to have my ass out and shit. You got the cakes. No, I ain't got nothing back there. It's over.

I do it though. I don't know. Write me a song. It's just music for people who are going through something. Yeah. Just real music for real people. Yeah. If you could collab with anybody in the industry, who would you want to collab with? That's a good one. Um, cause you never know. They could be listening. Lil Wayne's first. That's my favorite rapper ever. Oh yeah. Um, he's viral right now on Tik TOK like a motherfucker. He is hilarious. Love Lil Wayne. Um,

Rod Wave and Kevin Gates, even though Kevin Gates is pretty crazy. Yeah, what's going on with him? Oh, well, we need crazy. Yeah, no, no, he's great. He's just an Aquarius living his life. Yeah, I'm an Aquarius too. Yeah, me too. So, yeah, no, I get it. We're all narcissists. On the rap side, on the country side, I'm going straight for Luke Combs.

Hey, Luke. Luke. If you see it, hey. Well, you got a plug right here because she does his wife's makeup. Oh, yeah. Listen. We love Luke. You got to suck Haley off and she'll get you to Luke. Oh, great. Just kidding. Guess we'll never get that. We'll never get that.

totally kidding up until now who's your favorite collab that you have collabed with favorite collab yeah can you name one or is it just it just depends on the individual song like have you collabed a lot with anybody yeah um favorite though it's like tough because then i feel like i'm just like sending everybody oh gotcha gotcha okay what would what's your favorite song that you've ever written that i've ever written yes um i think right now which is

Crazy that I'm even picking one because usually I feel like they're all my babies and you can't really pick one. Yeah. But I feel like right now it's called Change of Heart. And that's just because it talks about me getting sober. For those of y'all who do know me and my past music and everything that's about very deeply into drugs. Let's talk about that. And yeah, so I'm over two and a half years sober.

Sober now, almost three years. That's so awesome. Congratulations. Thank you. Because I know the doobie I saw before used to get lit. Lots of cocaine. Oh, man. That's why I've never heard you talk. Literally, every time I saw you. Yeah, I was always just wired. Yeah, just fucking lit, dude. That's awesome. What made you want to get sober? My son. Oh, daddy. Being a father. Daddy doobie. Yeah, and I was just...

I don't know, like, I feel like I've partied so hard for so many years and you just wake up like, dude, I'm not really trying to do this anymore. It gets boring after a while. And now drugs are not the same as they used to be. That too, man. The elastinus. We used to get high and really just be

Having fun. Now you get high, you know, that might be your last time. Yeah. No, it's scary. Yeah. I want to get home to my son. Oh, I love that. I'm sober. I've been sober since 2017. I was when I stopped drinking or I stopped taking pills. 2018 is when I stopped drinking. So, I mean, I drink and smoke weed. So yeah.

So you're California sober. It was hard drugs, guys. That was the problem here. No, but that's good. No, that's all. Any kind of sober is a fucking celebration, dude, because it's hard. You know, like especially when you are in the industry that we're in, you go out and you got to shake hands, meet people, especially if you battle with, you know, anxiety, depression, anything like that. Getting out into a, you know, into the world and being in people's presence and energies. That's a lot to soak up, you know. So doing that sober, you got to fucking pat yourself on the back.

Still drink me some Miller Lite, though. We know. You got two right next to you. Got two. You have two? We know. What am I supposed to have? Where are they at? Over there. Okay. Over here with me, man. What you want one? Yeah, he loves Miller Lite. Well, you know, it could be worse. It could be fucking bottles of vodka.

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- Yep. - Forgive me. I see I was on point when I thought I wasn't. Okay, cool. - Yeah, Friday. - Friday, November 11th, my next single releases on all platforms. It's called "All Him." Yeah. - It's called "All Him?" - "All Him," yeah. - And is it, do you have an album that has been dropped or is this leading up to an album drop? - It's leading up to the album. - When can we expect that to be dropped? - Mid-December. - Awesome. I'm excited. What is, if you could describe that song, what does that song pertain to?

um that's crazy i just had to hold on i gotta pull this up no you're good you're good highlight how's it been for you watching all of the success that has come you guys's way like it's gotta be a fucking amazing feeling it is but like even like you know it's like not dreamy but like

Every day I wake up and I'm just like, I don't have to struggle. So it's just like, is this for real? How long is it going to last? But it's an amazing thing. The ride is amazing. The elevation. And it's crazy when I think back, it's like a low key, maybe even high key, missed the grind part of it. Yeah. I understand that. Like sleeping in the van and everyone being together because it was like 15 of us at one time. And Jelly used to tell me this stuff, speaking of Jelly.

Back in the day, it's like, dude, listen, you get to this point, it's going to thin out. And you're going to get to this point and this is going to be you and Doobie. And like, I still got my homies and I love everybody, you know what I'm saying? But it's just like, it was just so much better back then when it comes to the homies. It was a brotherhood. You guys were really close. I mean, you guys still are, but everybody grows up and does their own thing and shit. I was telling them how you wrote a diss song about me one time.

Remember? We're allowed to talk about it. We can laugh about it now. This is what she brought us here for. No, no, no. We can actually... Hit the clapper? No. Clear this up. How did that happen? I'm about to hit the clapper. Ha ha.

No, listen, it is all in good fun. And that I just am saying, telling people about that story because it just shows how deep that we go and how close we are. You know, like we can get through anything. We're family, you know? And I just thought it was funny. We were talking about it last night in the podcast. I was like, people don't realize those are my brothers. You know, I was like, those motherfuckers wrote a diss song about me one time. It was funny. I forgot about that shit. No cap. We just real hide into it's funny.

It's funny how that song got portrayed as a diss. That's what I'm saying. It was a bad time. What are we talking about? I wasn't talking about Bunny, but... It's all right. I mean, but I don't care. What song was it? I don't remember. We never released it because of what transpired after. I don't think I ever heard it. It wasn't... We never released... It was... I put up a song on... It was on live. I was rapping a song in whatever the terms were at the time.

kind of put that song as an automatic diss or shots to everyone. I never got to hear it, I don't think. Yeah, and so I was like, oh, great. So now I just made a diss song, I guess. But you know how the internet is. You will remember this shit. You, of all people, will remember this shit. But I thought it was funny. I was never mad. I remember it vividly just because we all had a conversation and stuff too. And I was like, dude, this is crazy how...

far this just uh well the internet's crazy the fans and all i did was preview a song on my life

No, it's all good. It was timing and it probably wasn't smart anyway for me to even know. But it just goes to show that we are you know, we're all family. And just to touch back on what Highlight was saying, like you guys were fucking thick as thieves, dude. You guys were like in the trenches together, you know. So I got to come along just for a short part of it. But fucking you guys were in it.

for since from the ground up. Like literally, I have watched you guys and fucking Jay since I came along seven years ago, just fucking do nothing but fucking elevate, dude. And that's like the coolest thing. Like, I'm so proud of you guys, dude. Thank you. We're proud of you, too. No, I'm really, really proud of you guys. And I just I hope to keep just watching this fucking journey climb higher and higher and higher. What's next for you guys besides dropping this album? What are you guys hoping to accomplish in 2023?

Stadiums. What is it? Stadiums. I'm trying to put some more wall jewelry up.

That's what I'm on. I'm on plaques. Yeah. I'm trying to just be bigger. I'm cool. I love the underground music scene. I love it. It gave me everything I could ever ask for and it birthed me as an artist, but I want more. Yeah. I want to come home and see plaques all over the wall. But you're manifesting. Speak that in the universe. Speaking of plaques, he did just get one of them certified. Yeah.

Yeah. Nikki Sixx went gold. Yay. We need some more. We need a judge to work like right there. We need some more, yeah. You will. You guys will. I'm telling you. And then I keep trying to tell them, you guys, once you go to their websites when they shout them out, you guys need to tell them to get on TikTok because they'll love you, Doobie. And highlight, you know they'll love you. I'm getting on TikTok, man. I've been with this...

Well, working it. Just working it. Yeah, I just keep working it for sure. I think it's going to be really detrimental to getting your music out there because you guys make great fucking music, dude. Like...

The world needs to hear it. And like, I just feel like TikTok right now is that place to do that. So 2023, you want more plaques, highlight? What do you want to do in 2023? Just keep elevating. Stay healthy and keep elevating. That's it. Did you ever think you would go from being a DJ to pretty much like a manager, businessman?

You're doing multiple things also. I was about to. He's like, I was about to. I was about to joke when I just decided not to. Do it. No, no, what'd you say? They need to see your personality. No, what'd you say? Say it again. I was saying, did you ever see yourself going from a DJ to a businessman and a manager? Because you're managed, Doobie, right? Yeah, so...

Yeah, I mean, manager, you know, a little CEO. Yeah. Nah, but, um... But you're doing multiple things. Tell them about your wine. Tell them about shopholeycenter.com. I didn't expect Holy Center to do what it's doing now, and I haven't even, like, scratched the surface on it. It's a fucking cool ass fucking line, dude. Yeah, so that was just on some tour bus high shit, and...

I came home with a cup. I haven't done nothing with it for it. It was just all organic. You know what I'm saying? I didn't really put no bread into it. I just let it build how it is. So the clothing line, Holy Center is dope. It's more of a lifestyle too. So just basically stands for nobody's perfect in a sense. Yeah, the wine. We just released the wine. Doobie actually partnered on that with me too. It's called a Send You Black Wine.

It tastes so good. It's a sweet wine. It's nice. You guys will have to send me some bottles so I can have the guests drink it. Definitely. For sure. For sure. But yeah, so just... Whatever we can support over here, I would love to support, you know. You know, I'll support Shop Holy Center too. I just won't do the upside down crosses.

But this one over here loves the upside down crosses. Wait, I'm going to get your take on it first. What is the upside down crosses? What does it mean to you? Well, I just, I know that in the Bible, um, who was it? Peter was crucified upside down out of respect for Jesus. And I know that whole story, but I feel like, um,

culture has turned it into something bad, you know? So that's where I just, as much as I am a little slut pup on the internet, I do still love Jesus, you know? So it's like, I just feel like I don't want to represent that culture, but I love your stuff. I love that the, the, the Mary's and all that stuff. And like the pray for me, I have prayed for me and father, forgive me tattooed on me. So like, I love that. Don't pray for me.

Right, right, right. Might be a hater. Yeah, no, but like I'll wear all that other stuff and I think it's amazing, but she loves it. She comes in wearing upside down crosses and pentagrams and shit. See, I'm not really into like, I'm cool with the pentagrams and all that, but it's not really my thing. Mine basically really just stands for nobody's perfect. That's it because everyone tries to portray this angel all the time and

At the end of the day, a cross is a cross no matter which way you turn it. Yeah. It's the same thing. It means nothing. It's a dope line. Don't think I'm the devil. No.

No, not at all. No, I love your clothing line. I think it's fucking so amazing. And you guys need to go check it out. Where can they check it out at? Shot Police Center on Instagram and shotpolicecenter.com. Doobie actually just dropped a clothing line too called Bat Shit Crazy. I love that. Bat Shit Crazy, but shit is obviously spelled S-H-X-T. I need some hats. Crazy with a K.

I should have brought you some shit. I know. I need some hats because I can wear them on the podcast. Yeah. What you want to call it? Yeah, I fuck with your shit too. I'll be watching the...

The merch drops and shit. You know, it's crazy because we literally sell out every time I fucking drop. And it's like the simplest shit. Literally. It's just like, but the consumer likes simple. I think when it gets to be too much, you know, shit, people get overwhelmed. So we just keep it simple and it's worked for us. But we just met with a designer this week. We're going to start doing some other shit. I'm going to come out with my own clothing line, I think. That's how I feel. Yeah. I'll introduce you to my guy. That's how I feel. I want to do some cut and sew shit, put some shit together.

Dude, I got the guy. The shirt design and shit is cool, but it's just like. Yeah, I got, well, street wear is different from couture and, you know, designer shit. I have the guy that just designed my dress for the CMAs. I'll introduce you to him. He's fucking amazing, and he lives in L.A. Oh, no. Yeah, so he's amazing, Jonathan. You'll love him. No. All right, well, I'm going to play a game with you guys. Oh, shit. Can we play a game? I got to put my glasses on and hold on. I knew this was on. This is the part. This is the part. Fucker, your butthole. Fuck.

clinch them cheeks baby let's go all right so this game is called let me make sure this one's called never have i ever and what you're gonna i'm sure you guys have played never have i ever before right all right well it's the sexual and drug never have i ever so i'm just gonna ask you questions we're gonna slide through them and you guys can answer as many as you want are we all playing even though they can't see you guys

- Oh, no, no, no, just you two. Just you two. - Just saying. - All right, ready? Here we go. Never have I ever done cocaine. - You gotta drink if you have, right? - Wait, what is that? - You gotta drink, right? - If you want to, you don't have to. It's just you can answer the question. - Oh, well, yeah. - So never have I ever done cocaine. - His fault.

You don't like doing... I'm not going to point no more fingers, but it was more than just him, huh? You've never really been into doing blow and stuff like that, though, have you? Were you really into it? My nostrils are still not the same. Oh, I don't have any lounge in my nose. It was literally... You can put the blame on me. Yeah, like straight hard two years of it.

What'd you say? Two years only for you. Imagine, you know, nine years straight. Oh, I don't have any cartilage in my nose and I fucking did blow for probably like a decade. It's bad. So to answer your question, obviously, you know,

Yeah, you guys have had a little tootskies. Little tootskies along the way. Little tootskies boogie. Yeah, it's been like two and a half years though. Are you sober now, Highlight 2? I mean, I smoke weed and I drink because of him. Yeah, Kelly. You know, I never was a drinker. I was drinking in the middle of life, drinking a liquid death and it's still my fault, you know. Never have I ever shit in front of my significant other. Never. Never.

I don't have one of those. I know, but if you ever did, would you ever poop in front of your girl? Door open. Just let her fucking smell the duke? Yeah, but like her, she can't do that. Oh, no. It's not really ladylike. It's not really ladylike to me. No, I understand. I still to this day, I have only fluffed in front of Jay one time. What's fluff? Farted? Yes. Fluffed? Fluffed? I don't know.

So what do you do? Run in like to the bathroom? No, my stomach hurts all the fucking time. What do you mean? I will never go to the bathroom. My grandma used to say if you hold your farts, make your breasts sting though. No, my breath smells amazing. But, I will not do that in front of J-Dude. I don't know how girls do it. Girls will shit in front of their men and I just can't do it. Maybe do you shit in front of your man? Okay, well you've shit out kids. With the door open? Yeah, you've shit out kids. Yeah, I'm dropping that duty.

Never have I ever had gay thoughts. Never. Never. I like his face. Hey, but we're, hey, do what you do, man. We cool with everybody. I love people. Yeah, of course. We never shame anybody for, what is it? Yuck. What did that one girl say? Yuck their kinks or something like that. Yeah, do you. Never have I ever had sex with someone that doesn't speak the same language as me. That sounds awesome. I definitely have.

It was hard. Was it? Yeah. I don't know. Was it hard because she just didn't understand like what to do? I figured sex would be like... The sex was fine. Yeah. It was the...

Like, like, like just any form of communication. I didn't know what the fuck she was talking about. She didn't know what the fuck I was talking about. I kid you not. Pulled out Google Translate. In the middle of sex? No, after. Oh, okay. Like, hey, good game. Good game, chap. I had to figure out where I stood. I didn't know what was going on. You're like, was it as good for me as it was for you? And they had to Google Translate it?

Remember how you said it? Do you remember how you said it? How I said what? Whatever you said. Well, what did you ask Google Translate after you guys got done boning? No. Okay, we're watching TV. Yeah. Right? So I'm like, obviously, I'm into it. You feel me? Right. And she's saying something to me. And I'm like, I'm acting like I know. Yeah.

And so she's actually the one who pulled out the Google Translate. Right. And typed it in and was like, hey, we don't have this where I'm from, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, well, this is ridiculousness. It's funny. She was laughing. Shout out Rob Dyrdek. She was laughing, so I didn't know, like, if she was laughing at me or, you know, like, I'm over here like, uh. I love it. Something happened over there. No, they're laughing at him. Oh, for real? I don't know.

I'm just being honest here. I remember it like it was yesterday because it was like, it was, you know. It was an awkward situation. It was definitely different. So would you fuck a girl again that you didn't communicate with? Like, were you not able to speak with? I mean. You'd do it again? He's like, fuck it. I'll pull out Google Translate in the middle of banging her back out. Highlight, you never fucked anybody that didn't speak English? Nope.

I would know it's probably kind of cool because you really ain't got to talk. Yeah. Like, like, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord's like, like, like little she knew little sign language, but not like so she knew like little, you know, like little basic words. Yeah. But you couldn't have a conversation. And that was

Weird. She came to get fucked. She was like, listen, I am not fucking going to sit here and watch Ridiculous with you anymore. But you know, okay, I met her on Instagram, so here's the thing. On Instagram, you...

Like, it automatically translates your messages or whatever. You know what I'm saying? So, like, you don't have that problem with understanding the paragraphs where you're talking in the DM. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's all English. Yeah. So, did you know she didn't speak English? No, I didn't know. That sucks. Yeah. She shows up and she's like, por que? And you're like, what language was it? Russian. Oh, okay.

You went on to Jacques. Yeah. And that's not even an attractive language. That was the part. So I'm over here like, yeah, you know, yeah. They're pretty aggressive women, too. They know what they want, dude.

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What type of rough sex y'all good? I mean, listen, I like to get my ass. So I used to like to taste my own blood. So like my thing was going to cemeteries and getting banged on tombstones and getting my mouth slapped until my lips. That's cap. She's cap. Oh no. I can't hear this shit. This is lying. I swear to God. Do you want me to call one of my exes right now and put him on the spot? Yes. Oh my God. Let's see if Frankie answers his phone.

Yeah, didn't used to smack my face across George's tombstone. No, he's done. He's so much shorter. But you fucked in the cemetery. Hold on. I've never fucked in a cemetery. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? It's the best thing ever. I don't think that baby would do right. I think he'd be like, ah. You literally killed the poor thing. Okay, hold on. He killed the poor thing. Hold on. The poor thing. God. I have not even had. Hello? How do you put it on speakerphone? Hey, what's up? I'm waiting. Cemetery. Cemetery.

Oh my god, it's is this video? It's video. Please answer. One time in the cemetery. This would be so no, he'll trust me. He'll remember. I mean, that's not something he's probably shook that I'm even calling him. He's like, she's about to call me about the cemetery. He's like, sorry, I gotta hit you back. I'm in the cemetery. Yeah. I just hit him. I just hit him. I need you to answer. Hold on. So how did you bleed? Like he just he just saw it. Yeah, that's the part. And what did you

Hold on. Hey, can you talk? I'm in the middle of a podcast right now or send me a voice note. That's fine. I'm in the middle of a podcast right now and they don't believe that we used to have sex in the cemetery and I used to make you split my lip open and I would fucking spit blood all over you. Please confirm that that happened. You wear upside down crosses all the time. That is some shade. Bro, why split your lip open? How? I would have them slap me until my lip got busted open.

What is the significance of this? It's just, I like rough sex. That's not rough. That's like, he just beeped. I said, DV. I said, Hey man, I ain't mean to, you know what I'm saying? What the fuck? Hold on. We'll wait for him to answer. Cause he's listening to the thing right now. But, um, yeah, no, it really, did you guys have a cemetery of preference?

um there was one in vegas that i used to go to that was off of southeastern we used to go to that one all the time any specific graves like no no no but you know i believe that a bunch of karma caught up with me for doing that so i would do not recommend yeah the person shows up to your house remember you fucked on my grave right remember this is when i used to get lit all the time too and sober me would never do that there's no fucking way in hell that i would do that but

All right, moving on. Have you ever used shampoo to masturbate? Go ahead. Go ahead. He said, yes, that's true. She's fucking nuts. Oh, shit. What? He's nuts, too. Shit. Hold on. Thank you so much for clarifying that because they did not believe me. And I was trying to get you on the phone so you could be on the podcast to clarify that. But thank you. Man, it's like...

Isn't it like... Yeah, I will. I will here. Isn't it like fucked up you always makes life harder for sober you? Yes. Absolutely. I 100% believe that. Well, it's different. Like, man, you wake up the next day like, hey. Yeah, that wasn't me. I don't think that was me. Yeah, no, it wasn't me. That was drunk me. That wasn't sober me. Yeah, I don't know who that person was. So have you guys masturbated with shampoo? You want to go first? I'm going to go ahead and get out of here.

whoa whoa i don't want to know that i should have doesn't that burn the pee hole i was a kid oh you guys don't do it now no this is this is a thing i like i've never got down like that and this is gonna sound weird when i say it i've never used any lube for that it's just dry rub but it's like i know exactly how i like it so like his wings dry yeah but it's like not like i don't i'm not i'm not too much like starting he said i'm not too rough but like

You don't like any juice on the mousse? You said I'm not too rough. I know exactly how I like it. Do you use just fingers or is it a whole hand? It depends on what's going on. Or do you cup it from the top? Because I know some dudes cup it from the top too. I don't even know what that means. I don't know what that means. Yeah, like this? That's some cemetery shit. Bro, she said like this. You guys have never... You petting that motherfucker? I never did that.

I ain't never did that. You guys have never fucking seen some, well, I mean. No. We can start there, no. But this though, that don't even look like proper form. No, I don't even know. Listen, it happens. I've seen it numerous times. Nah. Like you put your hand in a bag of chips. Have you ever banged three or more people at the same time? People or?

You keep saying women. Well, because you have to understand this is a politically correct app. So have you ever banged three or more bitches at the same time? Been there. Yeah? Do you guys prefer that? That's a lot of bodily fluids. I ain't gonna lie. It was overwhelming.

Yeah, it's a lot of holes for you. It was overwhelming. Because at the end of the day, like, okay, two, I'm going to be honest with you, two is the most that's where it's cool. Yeah. After two, it's just a lot. Yeah. It's a lot going on, and you feel like you got to do this, that. It's just too much. Yeah. When the whole goal is just to, I don't know.

I don't know. I approach the situation differently. Yeah. What do you think? More or less? One at a time? Do you do one at a time? I'm cool with three, four, five, all that. But like the things like this, I like to watch for a minute. Yeah. Like I roll a blunt. I'll watch three, four of them. Yeah. And then I choose. I go, yeah, she go crazy. Yeah. Oh, okay. So he's picking one out of the book. It's like an NFL draft. That's what I'm saying though. Are we allowed to talk about it? You don't like to even kiss bitches, right? That's what...

That's why I love you. Yeah, you know I don't get down. Yeah, highlight is very particular. Yeah, see, I'm happy you talked about this. I mean, and I think that's okay. Let's normalize that. I've probably kissed like eight women my whole life. Yeah. And I can count how many vaginas I've eaten on both hands. Yeah. On both hands. Yeah, because I've been focused since I was like 14. I'm 36, so I can count them. A lot of, you know, but that's...

That's good though because you can't just be out here just munching everybody's rug, dude. You never know what's going to be when you pull it up. You never know what's going to happen. Have a little extra guacamole on that. Ew, God. A little cheese on her taco. Ew. You never want to do that. Do you guys leave your used condoms behind? Because I know now that you guys are on tour and stuff like that or do you always take them with you? See what Drake did.

Shout out to Drake. He's a genius. Put the hot sauce in that baby and left it. Oh, I know. Did you hear about that? We talked about that on propaganda. Shout out to Drake. Yeah, crazy, right? Do you leave yours around? Back in the day, you used to just... No, throw them in the trash. Nah, I flushed them. Oh, no, you gotta flush them now. These bitches are crazy. I never used to let nobody stay with me, though.

I used to, I'd wrap them up in that toilet paper and throw them down. Well, like, if you're fucking a bitch in a hotel and you leave, do you take the condom with you? Do you throw it down in the trash? But that's what I'm saying. Oh, okay. Like, I've never, like, allowed a girl to stay with me, like, unless it was, like, somebody I, like, fucked with. Okay, so you never just went and saw a girl. They always came to you is pretty much what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, on the road, like, for sure, for sure. Yeah. I never go to people's houses. I'm not, I'm not going nowhere.

Nah, hell no, man. Whoops. All right, well, I think you guys did pretty good on the game. Do you guys want to keep playing or are you guys not good with that? I'm cool, whatever. Because I know you're crazy, so listen. Well, why don't you guys shout out your socials so that people can follow you, YouTubes, all that stuff. Go from there. Doobie everywhere, D-O-O-B-I-E. TikTok is Doobie8.

Follow me, add me, whatever you need to. Yay, I'll follow you too. YouTube, Doobie, play that shit, stream that shit, share that shit. Look out for your single that's about to drop. All Him, November 11th, this Friday. Pre-save it right now. Well, it's probably going to be too late by the time this is over. We're going to drop this, I think, around the time that your album drops, right? Highlight? That's cool. All Him, cool. All Him out now.

Yeah. Yeah, you can follow me everywhere. Highlight H-Y-L-Y-T. It'll pop up. Yeah. ShopHolyCenter.com. And where's your wine? Sinyu Black Wine. S-I-N-J-U Black Wine.

Shout out to Bunny. I love her. I love you, baby. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm so happy you guys came through. Now that you guys came through, I want to bring you guys back so that we can just always show your growth and they can just, you know, people are going to love you guys after they see this. So I just want them to be able to follow your journey. So you got to promise to come back at least once a year with me. I'm down. All right. Yay. Definitely. Love you guys so much. Dumb blonde shit, boy. Yeah. I need to get a drop from Highlight.

That would be awesome. Let's do that. Thank you guys so much for coming by. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.

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