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Julia Gets Wise with Anne Lamott

2024/5/15
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Julia Li: 本期节目探讨了为人父母与为人祖父母的不同,以及在人生过渡阶段所面临的挑战与慰藉。她分享了自己父母搬家的经历,以及由此产生的焦虑和分离焦虑。她相信宇宙中的细微迹象,并从父母搬家过程中发生的巧合中获得了慰藉,认为生活中细微的巧合能带来安慰。 Anne Lamott: 她分享了自己七十岁的人生感悟,以及对婚姻、家庭和人生的看法。她认为七十岁的人生经验让她能够更好地理解和帮助经历丧失的人。她与丈夫Neil的婚姻让她学习了如何处理内心的消极声音,六十多岁坠入爱河与年轻时不同,更加成熟和轻松。婚姻让她学会了接受生活中的混乱和不完美,并从完美主义的束缚中解脱出来。成为祖母后,她学会了放手,不再试图控制自己的孩子,并分享了戒酒后写作风格的转变。她建议人们在感到焦虑时进行简单的呼吸练习来缓解情绪。如果能回到21岁,她会告诉自己接纳真实的自己,并重视内心的感受。 Judy Li: 她分享了自己对为人父母和为人祖父母之间差异的看法,认为做母亲和做祖母的区别在于责任和关注的程度不同。祖母可以更轻松地享受与孙辈的时光,而过度帮助孩子可能会导致孩子变得依赖,父母也应该学会放手,让孩子自己去面对挑战。她认为父母和子女之间的角色发生了逆转,子女需要照顾年迈的父母,但父母也应该保持独立性。 Anne Lamott: 她分享了自己七十岁的人生感悟,以及对婚姻、家庭和人生的看法。她认为七十岁的人生经验让她能够更好地理解和帮助经历丧失的人。她与丈夫Neil的婚姻让她学习了如何处理内心的消极声音,六十多岁坠入爱河与年轻时不同,更加成熟和轻松。婚姻让她学会了接受生活中的混乱和不完美,并从完美主义的束缚中解脱出来。成为祖母后,她学会了放手,不再试图控制自己的孩子,并分享了戒酒后写作风格的转变。她建议人们在感到焦虑时进行简单的呼吸练习来缓解情绪。如果能回到21岁,她会告诉自己接纳真实的自己,并重视内心的感受。

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Julia discusses her struggles with transitions, from childhood to adulthood, and how recent life changes, including her parents' move, have been emotionally challenging. She shares how subtle signs from the universe, like a familiar clocktower chime and a significant address number, provided comfort during these transitions.
  • Transitions are emotionally challenging for Julia.
  • Subtle signs from the universe provided comfort during her parents' move.
  • Julia seeks these signs as confirmations of the mysteriousness of life.

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This week on Wiser Than Me, Julia gets schooled by 70-year-old author and Sunday school teacher Anne Lamott (Bird by Bird). Julia finds solace in subtle signs from the universe and learns the importance of shutting the hell up when it comes to parenting adult children. Anne also shares wisdom on recovery, perfectionism, and falling in love at 65. Plus, Julia and her mom, Judy, explore the inevitable role reversal that comes with aging parents.

 

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