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Becca Farsace:在2024年开始运营YouTube频道并非易事,内容市场已经非常饱和。然而,如果你有独特的故事和想分享的内容,并且能够保持真实和持续创作,你就能找到你的观众。她分享了自己从传统媒体转向独立YouTube创作者的经历,以及在内容创作、视频剪辑、缩略图制作和短视频创作方面的思考。她强调了保持个人特色和情感表达的重要性,认为持续塑造特定的人物形象和情感体验,能吸引观众持续观看。她还谈到了自己从视频拍摄到后期剪辑再到脚本创作的创作流程,以及如何根据视频主题和风格选择独立完成或与他人合作。此外,她还分享了自己对YouTube算法的理解,以及如何通过分析数据来改进内容创作。 Marques Brownlee:他分享了自己对YouTube算法的理解,以及如何通过分析数据来改进内容创作。他认为YouTube的算法并非主动推送视频,而是根据用户的喜好和观看历史,主动为用户匹配视频。因此,创作者应该关注用户体验,思考用户在登录YouTube时希望看到什么内容,并以此来创作视频。他还强调了持续保持个人特色和情感表达的重要性,认为持续塑造特定的人物形象和情感体验,能吸引观众持续观看。 Becca Farsace: 在YouTube上取得成功,关键在于拥有独特的故事和真诚的表达,并持续创作高质量的内容。她分享了自己在视频制作中的一些技巧,例如快速制作超短视频的方法,以及如何根据观众反馈来调整内容策略。她还谈到了如何平衡个人创作和观众需求,以及如何利用YouTube的分析工具来改进内容创作。

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The discussion explores the challenges and opportunities of starting a YouTube channel in 2024, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and storytelling.
  • Authenticity and storytelling are crucial for finding an audience.
  • The tech landscape is saturated, making it harder to stand out.
  • Personal stories and unique perspectives can differentiate content.

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Can you genuinely start something like in 4 thing? You've probably thought about this question lot.

but I firmly believe that if you have a story to tell and you have something that you want to share, you'll find an audience.

Are you in general, mostly on a long form stuff all the time is at a conscious decision to avoid the short form.

I haven't been making a lot of social content.

which maybe isn't the best move. How did you make the super cuts so damn fast? I'm really .

like competitive.

I love that. Instead of thinking about the algorithm, thinking about the person that logs in when they see your video.

what do you want them to see? Thing that he said that stuck with me is he's like, you know, you have a show and you're a character on that show and if you are consistently that character and you consistently make someone feel certain way, they're going to keep watching the show.

People of the internet, welcome back to a bonus episode over away from podcast a marchez David also hosts with me on this episode and we have a guest, beck, up for sochi. You might know her as one of the video hosts on the verge s youtube channel, but now an independent video creator with their own youtube channel. David, I didn't get to ask like a elevator pitch type question like how you would describe her channel.

So i'll do my best now, which is SHE does whole, a little bit of everything, a little bit of camera videos, a little bit of headphone videos, SHE shown who's bent in the tech world, who's done everything from go to film school to actually get in the weeds with all the gear and video editing. So we could talk about all of that for a while. So that's exactly what we did. Enjoy the episode.

Alright, becka, welcome to the pod. thanks. Really good to have you still to be you think youtube music to listen to podcast. And very curious about is this your main podcast player or is .

just a certain podcast? IT is the main one. And when a podcast isn't on IT.

i'm mad that feels like .

IT would happen, is that IT .

is the only youtube podcasts that are on kinder.

I guess.

Yeah goole play music. Yeah wall. Because they got rid. Google podcast they did.

which was sad for me. I, I, I really enjoyed that. APP was nice and clean. IT was a dedicated A A .

podcast stuff. Well, this is about is a IT is pretty visual, obviously so he feels like IT alongside and youtube podcast land ah but it's great to have you here because we want to talk about youtube stuff and obviously bunch of the video gear stuff yeah I want to open with a pretty heart kitting question just like she's jump ing right into IT and look, there is no wrong answers. There is a wrong answer, but is there is no wrong answers in this room? Um twenty four or thirty F P, S rock just off the top.

your head. O, K, I really i'm excited to talk about this and i'm glad that you brought IT up. O because i'm currently, by the time this goes out, the video be out, but I am shooting my iphone sixteen poverty out .

in thirty course course.

I'm not happy about IT.

Wow, are you .

doing IT so that you can show the thirty P S iphone footage easier .

and is easier like all of phones default thirty yeah um and like I like you know why don't I just try and so i'm trying I know IT doesn't maybe actually look different, but IT feels different and i'm struggling with that. I am a twenty four girl interest.

so am I know you shot about twenty four. I brought this up, but I I become because I shoot everything thirty. When I see twenty four, I notice, yeah and so i'm curiously, you shoot everything four. And when you see thirty, you IT feels .

like a soba. It's like just a little too smooth.

I originally searching thirty.

I'm sorry, but you know if i'm like to shoot around, know like i'll take my phone, but if I know I want to watch that video later four twenty four on the iphone is a special setting. And then also like when you show your friends that don't think about this stuff at all a hundred percent of the time, they're like, well, why does that video look so thirty cinematic? No.

twenty four, there are so used to thirty. That's what I hundred .

percent IT is. No, is because we went to our school. Is there something there?

Maybe I think when you spent week .

metal at the time looking at footage, and that might be I think that the bigger variable for regular people looking at footage is depth. The field for some reason that first they are everyone like when they see the nl broadcast with the f like, this looks amazing. No, it's wild open.

That's why that new pisoned point shoe camera has like a it's like a blurry mode or something and I literally just opens .

the year ony does the same thing on their v line. Yeah you hit that back in and .

yeah so how's the .

three experiment going? Could you could you possibly be sway to do more? thirty?

The video is not done yet. I I can't. My experiment is not done um but I don't feel good right now.

great. You can mix. No, don't do that. No, no, no, no. Ah .

sorry. Yeah, I started to in thirty because I had a really bad tripod with a really bad video head and I couldn't do, uh, smooth enough pen. And in twenty four was a way more noticeable that the pan wasn't smooth than doing in thirty of years.

Exposes you. I mean, I don't shoot sixty for that reason. That's not the reason.

One of many reasons.

He looks like me.

yeah. Looks like a phone. Video, yeah, there's, yes, so many things.

Yeah.

yeah, so many things could go on.

go deep.

yeah. I conclude this with the holy things happening to me. I kept, you know, my iphone, twelve many bites.

People ever bite. The dust is really dying now. And one of the weird things that started doing is defaulting to slovo.

Every single time I open the camera and trying to show the storage out, I me out, I forget to check all the .

time and just start like, take a video, and they don't realize till after I took a slower video. So so many of the videos in my phone are at two forty F, P, S, and are just like playing seven twenty p, two forty. This might be why your .

friends are like this doesn't that's a separate .

that's and all my .

videos are also the shakey st thing in the world because it's a two forty F P S video.

And yeah.

anyway.

thank you. Well, I was excited to talk to you about here though because I think we have a lot in common of how much we love cameras and how much different year we get to use and play with. Ah the question I want to love with you is if you are building your ideal solo shooter camera, where would you take parts from? Because I have my answer, which is remarkably close to the camera that already exists. I would have the original c one hundred w with .

just a Better sensor in IT.

Just that camera with the handle economics are great. I had mike inputs IT had all the button in the right places, the handle was create, and then the memory was fine. The battery life was amazing, out of focus as fast. And I would just put a Better, I would put a fork. I put IT, obviously, was ten, eight, but I would have like a four cast sensor and there with the red color or something.

And that would be like IT for me. The screen on that one, I like screen on the mark too. I think IT that flipped out, that one just flipped .

like monkey. But I agree with you .

about buttons, handle, amazing. And I love that you could like, you know, Richard, that handle back. And for IT, great camera. Auto focus was loud, though I didn't.

So that's the thing about the way I grew with cameras as I stopped using auto focus like years ago. Yeah probably because I fell in love with child dept. Field and I would like shoot f one four in my little bedroom with like the five d across the room on the fifty mill and I was just like not move and that was IT that's why you're so good at cus on the kids.

I know I did do IT. Where would you? What else?

What do you do? Well, that's actually a good tip because I do move back and forth a lot and i've know that's .

what I always like. That's always been my as like. I can't predict if i'm going to do this. So if four is like stable and it's not going to drift.

but with like sonny's auto to focus, you can move a lot and the new lenses don't breathe like I can be anywhere. But I recently started using an icon and i'm still trying to dial in it's out of focus settings because .

IT definitely does not not me.

I'm using the .

six six hundred three OK is not a red, is a red. That's a whole thing.

Yeah is red? yeah. When are they're going to put that badge on there?

Have you tried using the the light for IT yet?

No, yeah. Well, this is another. I don't know if I want to expose myself in this way, but I usually just shoot stock color like standard yeah.

great. Yeah yeah. Because if I have .

to down a time, that is a commitment.

Yeah yeah it's a .

commitment and and some of I commit to IT yeah and it's fun because you get to play with color and like yeah have more versions.

I think the red color is amazing. Is the default just automatic if you expose that? Well, IT looks perfect right at the gate time.

What's what is perfect for you expect.

right? right? The Whites are really.

the White are in tones are yeah yeah ah I know a lot of people like our skin tones. I in our footage and I like IT also, but red color to me, just across the board, from highlights to the mid tones to especially my skin ton. I've shot a lot of other cameras and they can get other skin tones right?

My skin, for whatever reason. Red color does really well. yeah. So I ve just been happy with that.

Yeah so it's a feeling too like I feel like sometimes like color just feels good.

Yeah and that's .

like hassle. Bad color to me. I got the blues are .

just so good the thing like about on skin S.

I know you said this to me.

yeah yeah when we shot our we did some like a photo shoot for our merch and I feel like the color of the texts, styles and the texture and like everything was amazing, but the skin tones were just like, not great. Had to slide them .

around a lot. interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Products IT does well .

with products .

lues on the sky.

We can know about science for I do have a question just in general about like video making. So you've done basically every part of the video making sure there is the coLoring, but there's the editing.

There's also also other pieces of what what do you find is your favorite like aspect of bringing something from an idea to a final video? Do you enjoy the editing the most to enjoy the camera the shooting part the most? Ah has that changed over the years because you ve gone from working on product? Where do you have direction to now directing your own stuff?

Yeah tell me about that. yeah. Five years ago is the shooting future. I just loved getting into a studio, getting some nice slights up and just like being on a slider for you know five hours for um loved IT that kind of got old.

Um and I don't have as much of that my videos anymore and i've also gotten me here with my process like I used to be very much like right descript shoot the video, edit the video and now that it's just me I got real messy um and I like start to shoot IT and then I start to edit IT and then I start to write IT and I just kind of in this like crazy all up here yeah and it's just me like I don't have to explain anything, anyone and a lot of times so much of what i'm saying I want to a show and but I don't know how I want to show IT until I say IT and then i'm like all that time i'm gonna show IT, so it's really messy. But I would say my favorite part is when I first get footage in the the timeline and i'm just playing and i'm not like beholding to any script and that's like i'll stuck in music in there and like. IT really starts to ff flow.

That's where IT builds. I do feel like what you're describing, where you're sort of building in your head before it's actually being edited. I have always described that as shoot for the editor, right? For the editor.

Everything that i'm doing this for the editor version of me to have the easiest time possible, and as soon as are other steps involved, you can have to remember, okay, I need to make sure this works for the editor later. When he gets this footage, he needs to know what that means. And so yeah, having an all in your head organized is key to that. I'm not as good that part, but I try to be 我 i'm assuming .

that when you started, you did all parts. Now you hopefully don't .

do all parts of OK videos .

that you're still on top about, right? Okay what do you like Better? Um well.

so again, IT will depend on what video that I think works best as me owning from top, bottom versus delegating parts of IT. So i'll know based on how personal this topic or this style is. So there's a style of video that's particularly unique or it's let me try something with this video, then I will own IT from top to bottom if it's something that's not template tize as much, but just a little bit more standard than we know.

There are people who are exceptional of that, who can own parts of that and make that way easier. yes. So a review or uh explainer or something like along those lines very much like delegable because I can overlook that part of my brain yeah um so that's the way I think about IT. But yeah there might be a video or it's like half way through like actually mari and I are both going to edit parts of this video and bring them together yeah that's happened to yeah so is that the pocket he makes the podcast every week so I don't they yeah .

exactly um but is there something recently that you've tried like because I watch videos and they seem like they're so the style is like that. Um but can you name something recently that like you tried something new and you did IT I would love.

I would love to because I think you're read about the style being very sad and the shoot style makes you feel like it's all very consistent .

yeah but yeah like what .

you work on yeah okay. So last one is a reviewed one before that so the i'm taking a break video which was just A Q N A, but the where I didn't know by the end which answers I would keep in which ones I wouldn't, that one was decided in the edit where I I just do that entire video oh really yeah you answered tons a question I answered like fifty percent more than I actually included in the video and teen minute video yeah and I have like six more question in the clip then unlike my answers aren't like interesting enough to keep this video flying. I'm not keeping that um that something happens need at IT stuff like that the FBI, the classified story stuff just like a little bit outside of the typical I think that feels more like let me just figure this one out and .

that video did feel different in a really cool way .

yeah yeah personal story telling things versus like i'm delivering a service in a way .

yeah yeah yeah even the way you delivered IT felt a little like the story yeah yeah story time is fun.

I think I want to do more story time videos in general because it's shocking how many stories that we have that would actually just make a fun peace to just share with people. Yes, do you have things like that? You want to do more now because as we've enroll, you were making videos with the verge for a while, and we all watch those love. But those also have a sort of, I don't know, agendas the right word, but you're reviewing things, those events you keep up with now you get to choose each and every video, yes, from the beginning. But there are some things that you think you want to do more of now that you're picking everything.

Yeah, the big difference is just you're going to see more of like me in my life and get a little bit more of my ethos. And I was already kind of doing that at the verge. But it's tough when you're uploading all of your of footage to a server that owned by a huge media company. It's tough to put like, for example, my video I did on my personal channel about the ipod ano, there is like footage of me a baby. And yes, some of that is now on youtube.

But like that an our long video of me as a child, and if I made that video, the verge, like that footage gonna up on their server, unless I like tailored, and maybe I would if I was there 是。 But now knowing that it's not gonna go there changes the way I feel about making videos. And I just feel like gets really all mine and it's onna stay mine yeah.

And that feels really good. So I think folks are gonna more of that yeah. And so far their actions spend good. People are interested in people which is cool hundred percent.

And this this is one of the questions that gets brought up a lot one year. Sort of talking about youtube in twenty twenty four is can you genuinely start something like in twenty twenty four thing? You've probably thought about this question, but how do you feel about this question now?

Well, I don't feel like I truly started, and that's what i've anded um IT is hard to start. Something training for is so saturated. There are so many people on youtube.

But I firmly believe that if you have a story to tell and you have something that you want to share, you'll find an audience. But you need to be able to like, be authentic. And I think that's a tougher part and keep doing IT is also the tougher partner.

And do you .

think you could start and train, train for the same way?

arted? I I don't think I could. O and I think it's very specific to what I do, which is tech, which is a there is the entire now like staircases, like access that you have to climb.

Yeah, we're at the beginning like I started with, I got a laptop that anybody could have gotten and I made a video with um you know screen recording software and I had a little like web cam. I check couple videos with like kind of anybody could have done but because there was a little bit of the story to follow, people jumped on. And that was the beginning of the snowball. I think if I did that exact same thing now, IT went, have been harder to find and IT wouldn't have been as intriguing or unique of a story, because so many other people have already also done that.

because you did IT potentially.

sure. But yeah, I think that's why I feel like I have the worst idea of how to start now.

And what, what would you .

do if I were to cause, listen, I want to make tech video. So I would be trying to figure out how to make tech videos. And I think that I would end up being is actually probably somewhere in the commentary jona.

h. We've see so many like video essays and commentary youtube channels about topics where people can sit down and deliver a unique take on a story or a device or a trend. Yeah, just straight camera.

You don't need the gadget. You don't need anything like that. I think that's really what I would do and have some sort of perspective that's valuable.

Other folks are watching in I am .

watching what I watch a lot of youtube and I was going to talk to you, okay, perfect. Because I watch a lot of commentary channels and I watch a lot of tech channels, uh, and I do feel like I like drawn from both. And IT can be risky because if you spend too much time in the forest, the end up just making another tree that looks like every other tree. Yes, but what do you watch on youtube?

Oh my god, everything I love youtube I really do. It's like the service I subscribe to. IT is what I watch at night when I turned the T V on um IT is what .

I youtube yeah i'm .

a big T V to the T V.

Water as a fraction of the total still. But I was just like the youtube creator summer and they're like a living room. Big focus this year .

really every time someone tweet at us and says like friday night with way for it's always like them with like a bullet of cereal. Watching youtube on their T V.

I also do a lot of like ambience, like youtube on my TV, like I just put IT on .

and like people used to do with netflix. But the thing with the youtube is there is consistently, constantly every single day or as netflix only gets new shows like every couple months.

yeah and I think that youtube still feels I mean algorithm obviously there, but IT feels like a little random like I can find fr nne things on youtube that like I struggled to find out netflix .

yeah really puts you in a lane you pedia plus entertainment in one yeah you yeah you can use IT for like information development and learning. And you can also use IT for like just commentary and listening to things and watching .

political videos. It's like my TV yeah so I guess what's on like your home page you because that be watch me as well. I mean of the page scared.

It's always a mix of like car fit, like right now. I have six years on my home page, A A phone review, a car review and ultimate frisbee game footage video, uh, I got hacked. Video, uh, another car video and M K B H D APP socks video. So that's my, that's my home page.

That actually is exactly what I could think for you.

Yeah no surprises. Yeah so d and resh IT will click right now. Yeah so the I would click the ultimate deo because we played this team at origin onal a couple weeks ago that was like surprisingly good their canadian team and it's a footage of them playing a boston team at that tournament.

Now I I want to watch that you know how they play. Yeah.

so. So curious, yeah, what of the show?

Let's see. I got like an iphone sixteen pro. I got two iphone 7 pro videos because right now i'm working on minds that make sense。 H no, a lot of exposing myself here, but i'm on a real Billy irish cake. Those videos, I got a video about the zoo.

I A I H video, and I don't even listen to her birds of a father music video or five days ago. Mine is also .

birds with .

on video .

rather well when .

you click .

and one.

yeah, this is research lending for the podcast. This is here. This is the first.

Yes.

are you going to the new york show next week or the msg showed two weeks?

I am a little broke right now, so I won't be going to any shows for a while. But yeah, are you? Are you on this speed right now with me? Oh my god, just incredible.

So good. I 是。 K, K, yeah. Last night that at my people longest, like i've ever watched.

But I was just Billy irish sitting on a stage, learning her vocals live in front of the crowd. Come sick. I watch to feel like two ministry. Yeah, which is a long time for me to watch tiktok.

But as a long time.

just, yeah, no, youtube is very much just a kind of follows you around, understands you a little bit, serve you videos. S when your taste change, I can serve you new things. Yes, totally flip upside down, which kind of what we like about IT.

I think my big role, too, when I open youtube, as I usually click the video with the least of my views, like if if a video has under a thousand news, I am there.

That's a niche of youtube. And I went through a thing where I would start starting me videos, like sixty views. And I was like, what would you? how? Why does this keep happening? And they would be, so videos, yeah, but IT will always be one video on the corner like forty four views in you like, okay, this youtube decided that this is what I need to see right now yeah. So I I will go through kicks of that but sometimes it's just like you're just watching carvey is a sweet but that's all that's all .

to thank you yeah just fair. No, those are good to i'm not a big short watcher. Interesting OK I score where I buy IT.

Are you in general mostly on the long form stuff all the time? Is that a conscious decision to avoid the short form? Yeah, everywhere.

There are everywhere. And I just i'm really trying to get out of that leg A D, D mindset or like that. Like what's a Better way to put that like that? Yeah yeah.

I'm really trying because i'm finding that it's really affecting how I work, like I am in this tab and in this page and in this program. And I need to I need to like train my brain again till I go slow. And I ve been finally like I haven't been watching out of tiktok. I haven't been making out of social content, which maybe isn't the first move. But yeah I just I need to slow down there .

speaking of the way you work, yeah do you this is a question because David d. Peer says, you know is very deeply into all the productivity of are is into task gaps, Adams and the task apps. I, for some reasons, and that I ve never been able to figure them out. Yeah, you use anything or do you just let your brain kind of likes messily collect everything? Yeah.

that's what I do. The the, this is a mess but I know where everything .

is is okay so you so if you were to have a video idea tonight are at at talking me grow how you um bring IT to life because I imagine not a lot is getting written down. You're sort of bringing art maybe i'm wrong. Maybe you have things scattered your sort of ideally writing .

some of IT that I live in google dox yes OK so I have a dog. I usually when I think my idea is a title idea, so I just have a running list of title ideas um or like if I do think of the video idea, I think of like three titles um and so that's like that's my ideas list um but it's like that in like notes in my notes yeah a mess .

and there is worse .

and worse s hey, google dogs and iphone nose is like .

the combo.

No, it's great. No, it's IT sinks across. thanks. Yeah sometimes sometimes no, that one. So you think of titles first. Do you also like funnels, like packaging the whole video .

before you make the body? I'm bad. I'm really bad at one else and I try to now because I know that I need to yeah but usually the video and that's where we live here.

We try to be Better that as well. yes. I mean, i've got unless advice to flip IT on its head like we'd make the whole video. And then as is uploaded, yeah, we should have a title for this probably and also with a naha a and then that gets made of the last second. Now we try to go through the whole writing process in a way where we can appropriately package the video on our brain first, and then make the video that packaging, yes, which is, I think good advice is just hard to do IT hard to yeah yeah.

IT is good advice. Considering ninety five percent of whether not someone is gonna ch, a video is the thing that they .

see on the home page. Thing matters the most. Yeah.

yeah, yeah. tough. I do chAllenge myself to make at least two or three thumbs, always, like I always make one. And even if I love that, I, you know.

hide IT and make another one. And I I don't .

think I doesn't everyone .

have now .

I think it's still .

rolling out.

Yes, it's finally, are you doing your brain?

I yeah baby testing your brain yeah and I haven't changed a but I did recently got such Better click through that really yeah as like dying okay, this really is yes, you got .

optimized unfortunately the lower common denominator like the time now that you was not as artistic, you didn't like as much but was just sort of like a simply click here.

I hate athon nails. I don't know. I'd like, yeah yeah I should I need to have more of a feeling towards them really what is but this is one of those things where I wasn't making sum else of the verge yeah um we had someone that did that and he was very good at each child to alex super good um and so I was one of the scarious things when I was leaving not one of the scarious but I was up there were like, shoot. I am not to make my own house now it's going to be rough so yeah and they yes yeah .

I think my my only if I can offer a advice is like you you have an eye e for composition and like and making good images. There is a huge difference between a good image and a good done now yeah and and this is something I had to learn because obviously we have tim now and he does graph design. And now that he's more talent at that than me like this, the device I get all the time, which is like, simple, simple.

I'll think of an image with, like, what if we have a little thing in the background here and this little extra little about the lengths flared up in the corner here and it's like, IT makes a nice image yeah and it's nice to look at, but that actually makes very worse than now yeah yeah because the eyes sort of moves across the screen in a very specific way and if you just have a single or maybe two bold eye catching things than that is dramatically more effective yeah so you can feel away about the image. But yeah, it's it's different from being a good done. Now that's my learnings.

No, that's good advice. Yeah.

he also learned to not make them als. And final cut.

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yeah. This is how I feel about google dogs and apple nose.

That's too.

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but I think I .

will edit photos. Premier, you're wrong.

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I just like the not involve of IT you, how did you make the supercuts so dam fast? Because I remember maybe some of the early days of these supercuts. I'd be watching a an event, apple event, google event, whatever happening.

I finished the live stream, and or maybe i'd be there on the ground or something. And then I would click out, and then not more than fifteen minutes later, I would open youtube, and there would already be a twenty minutes super cut, less than twenty minutes actually uploaded. And my brains, like the math, ain't math. And at something, is not right .

here for those they don't know. The verge famously does the of tech events where it's like google pixel event in fifteen minutes and beta was the one that was editing those. And black markets said they were always out within minutes of the event being .

over yeah which is crazy. I think a something about me is that i'll leave at all on the field, but i'm really competitive like really competitive love yeah and and with super cuts, like there's other outlets that are doing them. And also there was like people on my team that were cutting other things during the event. I had to be first like I had to be first.

This is the the peak of like bringing value and being first yeah like summer click summary because no, nobody wants to watch the forty five minute video again, the keynotes over. I just missed IT. What do I need to see?

Bam, just wash the super cut. So this is useful IT in being super competitive and winning before made me such a fast editor like, I am insanely quick IT editing now. And I just now I know these events very well too. You know, I know when apple is gonna give me a bogus line, I know when they're going to cut to an ad um and so I know I can like catch up .

at those parts so you're editing .

as the event yeah so let me explain. So so basically we have like one laptop is just viewing the event HDMI out through a little black magic. It's a box. Yeah it's a box.

I don't know that yes little .

box um and then IT goes into this program called movie or quarter plus um that will both like record and allow you added access at the same time. What yeah that's magic.

It's awesome. And there's a .

couple of different ways to do IT. That's just so we did IT. Um and so then i'm in premiere and like just pulling out the clip as the events going like in premier.

you can see that is expanding.

You have to like pull IT out manually, but like the little area that shows you, you're at the end of the lip like and that's when you know you can like pull IT out, that is and it's like every thirty seconds .

you are like thirty seconds? No way. yes. okay. So you're actively getting the footage as it's streaming in and then you can can decide in the moment this is a line that in the super cut time line, this is a line that won't be in the super cut. Continue to watch oh my god.

yeah rip .

baby.

I just so yeah and i'm watching IT like two time speeds. So usually like I won't really start like i'll get the high .

welcome from like ten or whatever good morning .

next like the next five minutes is just going to be a summary of what they are going to go. I don't need any of that. I'm like drinking water, like and then I pull IT out and I like go time. So then i'm like cutting watching a two times speed, cutting out like pauses or whatever IT is. Um and then I add like the ads when they show the ads are great because I know I can like go back and clean .

everything up.

I just like a jump cut where they go from like a tight to a wide. yes. And I even would like try to like smooth over or I would like move things around because sometimes they give the Price for three products, but they like I want the Price right after the product .

yeah and then and then like .

sometimes when they do the ads, it's nice because you'll like a good um be all bit so like separating the audio, playing that on top, disabling IT so that if I need to cover something I have IT and then sometimes funny things happened like like maybe i'll put the end for the end card. Um so i'll could put that into another timing that just like extras um but but yeah I just like I just log in and I love you and I come out and I feel like, god, I don't know like I just feel crazy.

Okay, I love that. That's like, I mean, i've sort of decided that I can be first when i'm making my videos. yes. So i've i've decided, okay, at the expensive probably being almost last, I will try to make this video is valuable possible, yes. But in the like that moment where the kino ends and the the hands on area and you see people sprint over like that, that an entirely different race yeah, and I expect that so much because I can do that anymore. Yes, but I do think the super cut of like delivering the value basically instantly that was like A I I want to see if I can pull some learnings from that because that's super interesting.

Yeah, I learned a lot about just editing and and also just about people speaking and how they speaking and want to cut out others people that do IT faster than me now though, really yeah and I would love to know how they do IT, but I also am done with that. Yeah.

yeah. Speaking of that, I had a question about that. So we clearly know that you're vying to cameras.

You like camera content. Man is out. You did a lot of camera content on the verge. Uh, you already have quite a bit Cameron on your channel.

Are you trying to stick in a lane? Because I feel like in modern youtube, the way modern youtube works, you kind of have the opportunity to be more than just one thing because it's about the personality. One and two subscriptions are so deep important like not as important anymore that that's yeah d priority d priorities.

Thank you. Um that the algorithm will just serve them content that they're into in the moment. So like do you feel a little bit trapped in a lane? Or are you expecting to, like, go outside of that lane?

I don't feel trapped. And maybe I like, should, but I I really don't. And I excited to go outside of that lane. The tough part for me is that in my editing style, I use so much footage from devices, and so I am gonna depart the in.

But i'm already worried about, like, what am I going to show people for this part? Like this is where, like, it's so easy to, like, get my personality via a Cameron, a device. And I and I use that a lot .

like recording off of .

device yeah yeah you note and a lot of my videos, I like I don't really like this wide angle lens and then it's like cut to meet using IT and having a reaction to via the product. I use that all the time. Um and so like I have a lot of my headphones stuff coming up and I used to make a lot of headphone, but oh my god, what my eyes .

remember yes.

they know but the buds know.

But so yeah i'm .

excited to get outside of that lane is is the answer. I don't know how i'm going to do yet, but I I want to do IT soon. So people know that you .

have an idea for the wildest outside of your line thing like something that's not even really do .

anything you've ever done before. Yeah, i'm really interested in the access glitters .

like the arterial has one ah thought .

of yeah yeah and i'm just at first I like no one needs this, but then in their marketing, they did very good job because they explain that like what about folks who used to go outside a lot and no longer can do like the big hikes that they used to this might give them away to do that like you know actually like accessibilities though, that's cool and i'm really excited.

Try that but like that something I don't know a lot about that world and i'm like ready to learn. I'm excited to learn. I'm excited. Tell people and teach other folks too. But IT does feel like a big depart.

Well, a lot of people, do you even know that you're like .

a really big outdoors? The hiker person, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those don't know out.

You can talk about the plant.

Why do not you like take no.

no.

i'm just gay. sorry. Why don't you like take tech outside or something?

Yeah, I thought about that. Yeah, that was like child tag in my whole channel that I think about IT.

Yes, but I think think about like feeling like your inner lane is sometimes you just want to make the same stuff you like. I feel like I ve not trap myself, but I ve been making some of the same types of videos for a while in a way that I can feel like that's all I can make. But that's mostly what I want to mean.

Think it's you expLoring things like f one and things that know you could make the argument that it's tech. But just like our episode last week, what isn't in.

But I also comes from like other hobby you're actually passions about. So like the stuff comes from things are getting really into cars and they have taken them. So it's a natural loop.

Think we also make videos about. So like if you have this like uh outdoor passion or hiking passion or or gear passion and whatever that can easily be looped in like that people want to see back. They want to see back about what he is, passion about that that's .

that's something I just don't know it's true yet.

I'll find out. So what I so here's i'll bring another like piece of like what I got from this creator summer. There's such I get like little snips from IT but you know and he works for youtube now and something that he said that was very its struck me about youtube was.

People are asked about the algorithm, how does the video find the person? How does IT push IT to certain people? And he said, to think of IT is not that the videos being pushed by the algorithm is that videos are being pulled by users.

So when the user logs in, its up to youtube to find videos for that user. IT knows what he likes. IT knows what that person's washed before, what's is interacting with. And so it's going to pull what IT thinks so fine, whether is subscribed or not. So this is why the subscriber metric feels like more and more of just a kind of advantage thing because it's really about what you make when it's presented to people that theoretically should be interested. Are they actually engaging with IT. And so if you're passionate about something and you make a video or is very clear that you're passionate about something, others who care about that thing sooner later, whether they watch instantly because they are subscriber or they don't but they find IT later, they'll find IT yeah and then they'll find the rest of the things that you talk about so it's just to think about instead of talking about the algorithm, thinking about the person that logs in when they see your video.

What do you want them to see yeah yeah I talked to A A few months ago when I was like really transitioning um and the thing that he said the stuck with me he's like, you know you have a show and you're A A character on that show and if you are consistently that character and you consistently make someone feel certain way they're going to keep watching the show and so that I ve been thinking about IT as well. But it's you know a simple idea of like shared interest and shared feelings.

And yeah yeah yeah I remember like in twenty seventeen when I think I was like a strange parts youtube channel, his first video got a million years and I think everyone was cursed yeah definitely. But I think that that was sort of an like the beginning of the algorithm, just not caring about subscribers that much yeah and just like really pushing just good content yeah. And now that seems like you can just sort of as long as are good at what you do, like the people will find you, which is kind of amazing.

That is amazing. yeah. Other videos that you wish you could make that you don't feel like you can because you're make tech videos?

No, I think i'm very lucky to be able to say no. I think a lot of people find that they have a channel that's all the same style and they want to make this other video, but they don't think they can because their audience won't like IT. There's subscribers will respond to a little little tank, whatever IT is.

I really genuinely feel that we've expanded our style enough and i've set expectations to a place for literally any video I genuinely want to make. I think we can make IT. Yeah, which is not everyone can say, but i'm excited that I can say that that's true.

Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah. I'm like testing that right now because i'm just making videos about things I like perfect .

and so hard is working. But what if you made like a hiking video? You know those like silent in the woods hiking videos, this is what I mean.

Like could you actually make them? Yeah far out. Like could you actually make a video that is, you know maybe it's not a review, but it's like something totally different. Do you feel anxious about doing that kind of thing?

Here's the the weird thing about that is that I king's kind of this like sacred thing for me. It's like where I don't interact attack so I don't interact with people I really like to alone yeah for like long spends of time and so the thought of bringing a camera on a hike to like film that sort of video isn't appealing to me.

Yeah I mean, more in the sense of like a video that is so different from a review.

Yeah right. yeah. I mean, I should just try IT.

Why not? I mean, it's just gonna up being or a view about something and talking about that because that's what I do. But yeah, no, I should definitely IT.

And I think the winter will be interesting when things like slow down, like, you know, january, february and like already, what am I going? What am I gna do? What am am I going to talk about?

What am I going to make? Are you a big analytic person?

Ah, the studio APP is definitely my most to visited up. Yeah, in there. I'm in there.

OK do I love? IT, no. But yeah, are you? Yeah, yeah.

i'm big math numbers person, yeah um and that like part of that previous conversation would like one subscribers of any metric there also really good for like a quick samples ze for like trying and idea yeah so if you tried something new, you just have a whole bunch people waiting to watch whatever you put out and that's great and then some fraction of them will be like, I hate this and leave and that will be very informative to the algorithm for who should they should serve IT too later yeah which is cool. But there's all sorts of other really interesting analytics in general.

What your favorite .

what's my favorite analytics? Yeah no one ever ask .

me that favorite was .

my favorite. Analyze favorite anos tion IT changes over years because there are certain things that obviously youtube has shown to be a priority, like average orations. Very important. Sometimes click the rate that sort of stuff is obvious. But I think right now my favorite is percentage of viewers on a video that are subscribed versus not subscribe yeah because that's a good signal for not channel wth but just a video reach yeah and whether not people are actually sharing, watching the video outside of the Normal circles like did this video hate with just your audience or people other than the people who always watch you, I think that might be my favorite metric to keep an eye.

You have numbers that you like to see there.

So typically see like seventy austerity is subscribed. You and I want to see more that are not subscribed yeah um .

but you have a lot of .

subscribe things like very helpful to have a lot of subscribers and you might find the thing about having a lot of describes. Many, many of them are not active recently yeah so there are people who might not typically watch videos for like years and then they get resurfaced and over them and like I didn't even know subscribe with this channel that happens to um what is your male, female percent of viewership, do you know? IT.

yeah I do. And I really it's rough. So is thing .

about tech, which is i've never seen i've seen one tech channel get to the double digit female percent viewership. And is your double digits no OK. So I I I don't know if there is a way to actively influence this number because I want to see more women in tech and I want more women in stem and engineering, and I want an engineering school where they are super proud of getting the ratio from like thirty to fifty percent.

Yeah, this is a constant thing that people are thinking about, and I don't know if there is an answer. But like, is there a way to target or make videos more appealing to certain audiences? Or is even something you think about?

I think about you a lot. I mean the funny thing about like my analytics right now is that I just started so they are really wane because like the wild left the verge video hit a unique audience that maybe isn't my audience um so everything is I have been a weird place but like it's like two percent female maybe even like one percent yeah yeah um and I also just want to say that um you know a split like male female gender binary as little not true to the entire population but but yeah IT is it's like I I don't know how to reach that audience yes.

I do. I notice the number fluctuate between videos. Yes, the average for my channel might be nine percent or so female, so ninety one nine.

And I think that's pretty good among tech channels and among guard channels because then you start to see like youtube general skills mail or tech in general skills mail. But I might notice on certain videos s IT will be like ninety six yeah. And on another video would be like ninety ten.

And I go, what happened here? Yeah ah I have never been able to pinpoint any other variable whether it's the type of video or is that a device rn on boxing like never consistent. And I think is that youtube yeah who knows? Is IT just that day? What people are doing .

online is sometimes that day yeah sometimes one time I got randomly ninety eight percent female, five thousand views in one day one and I think I just all came from, like.

that sounds like an in bed yeah, yeah, yeah like traffic from somewhere that has a female yeah.

that will have. But the overall of that video is two percent female. Yes, something happened. Yeah, there .

is A, I think, I think JoNathan Morrison is the only tech youtube of thing with a double. David cogan, twenty three percent. I need to talk to that.

I got to talk is really good here. Does he ever? I'll talk him. And yeah, hair. I thought I had pretty hair.

I think I have .

good actually. You guys both have good here. The girl .

is not. That one actually .

hurts me. That is like a personal mission. Yeah, really.

I think he is just like expLoring different parts of like new york city, but with a device. So I think people like you get a little bit out of the technical that way because in a way, it's like expLoring a new area and devices brings in the tech people.

So yeah yeah that is a thing yeah about being in the tech world. If you're making a tech video is something I said before. It's no longer just a tech video.

You have to find some angle to make IT worth watching to people is what I ve found. yeah. So back in two thousand and nine, IT was enough to just be one of the iphone videos.

Now it's okay. There's a thousand iphone videos, but this is the iphone camera video, or this is the iphone battery test video. A specific reason to watch IT. Now in two and twenty four, you have to be like, this is the why you shouldn't buy the iphone video or they have to be like even more specific and to get people to actually watch IT. And I think that's where you find like these super nisus of like people diving really deep into .

something that hasn't quite then taken or .

cover you yeah using the studio quality on teen. So I think that you know your numbers will fluctuate ate all kinds of self, especially as you start expLoring like. Different styles and things like that. But yeah yeah you I think theyll be a lot of a lot of success as you will find.

Yeah, I will like like i'm saying that the channel is so new that like I can't really trust any metrics at this time because I still like really rapidly growing and changing. And yeah but but I think finding the angle is actually the fun part. Like for me, when I get a product in, I just get using IT for like a week or two weeks or as long as I can really. And then IT starts to tell me something. And that's like the fun part, you know.

okay. So you watch a lot of youtube and I I wonder if you if you're think about making a review for a device, will you actively watch other videos about the same thing before you make yours? Yeah.

i'm a big like I like to watch everybody's c IT .

feels like research to me. Yes, IT is research. There is a part of me that's like, I can't. I need to remember what my original opinions are before I go into this so that I don't find that i'm being skid yeah because I know that there is a nation of youtube which is let me evaluate everyone else's opinions and then take the other opinions so that I stand out that's a thing that people will do course and say i'm i'm cautious of like, am I watching one of those videos right now? Or is this actually something that I find valid yeah but yeah that is just like I have to think about that as i'm watching videos about other things that i'm going to make a video about .

hundred times hard, didn't not have your opinions, wait about very small things and then you just don't notice that happening. I definitely like way back when I we're reading android phones, like full time, just complete. I just did not engage in any I used to you yeah because I was just scared like, I think there was a like a review that I made where I was like, do I get my entire opinion from deear? Like, and I just stopping his video and so I just like, i'm cutting myself. I can do this.

Yeah yeah. I I agree with that. I think I am lucky in the way that you won't hear a lot of specks in my videos and it's very much like personal live experience, which can only be mine. But you're right off.

So hobby that you specifically have, like outside of cameras and tech and internet stuff, I think is super valuable and important. yeah. And i'm curious if you ever use parts of that to then bring back in. I'll give me example. I play a sport and .

the .

way I had yeah for what how people heard of IT? No.

I never heard IT.

But that's good because IT lives IT lives in this separate bubble in my brain. That is like it's like a like a flip switch. I don't want to bring tech or cameras or anything around IT. IT is sort of precious in that way, but also as a result, it's a team sport.

And I feel like that moment where the tma asks like, oh, I saw there was like an event today about the new what what is there and the moment where I have to formula two sentences about what they should care about yeah. And they react to that. That actually instructs me about the way regular people outside of the tech world are thinking about things.

Yes.

yes. Do you have that connection to, like, quote, norms? I mean.

all of my friends are enormous, yeah. But most importantly, in my partner, hanna, who I think we will be making her way in a more of my videos, is like antitch like really and .

that's the needs that's not covered. People who don't care about tech being handed .

brand new tech just craps and really is good. But i'm like, okay, can you something to say other than the sucks? Yes, but her big thing that I love and I find very funny is he has a real like disdain for A I anything made with A I, A I in the title.

She's like, it's cursed 嗯嗯, and so I really like my journey like just for fun I prompt a lot um anything that fun prompted to curse. And there was one thing that came up and I like that would be a really cool tattoo. And she's like if if you get that tattoo on your body.

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really gives me like a grounded. It's very fun and funny um but yeah for you it's your first b team yeah and .

IT IT kind of IT IT bleves into the way I think about the audience for the videos which like, okay, this is a big channel. It's a lot of more mainstream you could say like people thinking about tech. yes.

So I can talk specks s all day. I can do benchMarks all day and we can do extremely fine tuned, really, really specific things that are new battle phone. But like the camera control button on the iphone, for example, I found myself thinking like I could go so in depth about this bug.

Right now you're saying this, i'm like, let's talk.

We could get real in the weeds about that button yes but but um ninety something percent of the people who watch this video, which is people like my teammates out on on rand as island or nearshore a whatever, are not ever going to think that deeply about that button and they want the one sentence that summarizes they .

really and .

so there is this baLance of trying to speak to both. And I kind of end up I landed where I thought was like, maybe if this was a spectrum of how you can get into the weeds or not care I thought I ended like right here yeah like seventy five percent towards not care like it's honestly it's just a shot butter for most people you're not really going to think about IT too hard yeah and then I would hand the phone is so and there like, this is actually terrible like I never used this is a shutter button this makes my videos blurrier this is like harder to use and they they were outside of the spectrum that I thought, what exists about this butter? Yeah, it's good.

I think it's good to when the I O S eighteen beta came out and they added the R, C S stuff, started trying to get I I was like we were reviewing the pixel. So I was trying to get my iphone friends to update to the IOS in beta so that I could text them on our CS, on their phones. And most of them like friends.

Well, you know, there are the ones that bully me about being a Green bubbles so they can deal that, you know. But anyway 啊, some of them updated, some of them refused to, because they were just being stubborn. And then they updated when I actually came out, because I like updated overnight, whatever.

And the things that they sent me about, the things that actually excited them about, the update made me realized the things that people are, because the two things they heard like five times IT was the calculator now has history. Because of a number of my friends are like berry does or bar tankers, yeah, and they'll be like telling things up and then they forget what they just held IT up. yeah.

Now IT has a history, so you can like see what you had previously typed in the results for IT. They love that. I didn't .

have that later. Yeah.

it's orrible. yeah. IT was that. And then the schedule send text messages. I had multiple people tell me none of them cared about this, which is funny because they were manet, me, Green bubbles. They didn't seem to care that I got Better anyway because I was just a color yeah, I guess so that's just a color. But yeah, it's like the simple things that we're like, oh yes, slightly updated. It's like, oh, that is actually the thing that people really care about yeah and that kind of like reminds me and grounds me and that like people just want quality of life and perfect yeah especially at this point in technology, but are probably not going to care that the button is actually a real button that also has a four sensor. You have present a button nobody .

cares about.

I feel so you to talk about IT to I mean.

that time this comes out, it's like every going to be like board of board.

I'm never about the button yeah but it's the one thing onest I make sound like, yes, I actually just .

wrote this like yesterday I spent hours writing and rewriting my section on this button then we are like.

yeah we are not a but we are like and that that still is haunting me because it's .

what i'm going .

to .

finish this afternoon and i'm like, I thought about IT all night. I ve thought about IT all this morning. Like, I am locked to button. I wanna like IT so bad yeah, I really like, I love button. I love tackle things. I even like the feel of IT like I think it's like just mine enough well, except when you have do the double tap thing because like it's .

kind of a person .

that timing yeah yeah yeah the time like the scrawling is like way like I can never get IT where I want IT it's so frustrating that i'm not using IT and I hate that because I wanna .

a love IT yeah but I think you just to open the camera yeah .

and I yes .

same same yeah yeah IT is the double tap like on android, the double tap it's just that yes which i'm happy to have but yeah just i'm sad the butter makes me sad is what I think .

they overplay ated IT yes yes I think that regular people and me everybody yeah really doesn't want to have to deal with the half first .

thing all the time like I don't have to it's A T just me hundred percent but yeah but they .

tried to do too much yes I think that really .

no I I so .

i'm there I found a setting another day of like how to preserve the memory of the of the tones switch. So if you change camera, uh, what is the call the photographic styles? If you change settings, then I will preserve the memory of IT.

And so now I always have tone at minus point five and that's great and but that doesn't like map anything now. So I don't use IT anymore. I just take the shutter and that's IT fine.

It's very capable and I can do a lot of things that just don't use that yeah which is true about a lot of tech. There's a lot of things that you don't realize how capable is and a design for someone who will use that a lot. You would think it's for us like people who are really camera stuff but is not used.

IT takes just so much longer that changed the settings like it's like doing the frequent like say like hacking key keyboard presses thing.

You know why IT doesn't do anything that you can do with the screen now and of the king, the physical keyboard.

because you can do on the screen and now we another thing that you can do on the screen and get d of .

all the ones I said, I get rid of every single. That's what we thought they were gonna do get rid of all the speakers.

I am just make a use the phone.

No.

I do like the button. I just think, I think that the force habit thing was too much. I think they are literally could have done a single .

button yeah but they but if you .

hold this video, if you doubled up IT IT does one thing. If you tripled IT another, I think I think people know.

Yeah yes.

they could put IT at the bottom of the phone and make IT a circle with a little square.

and then they go home. If you press .

that's a great idea.

like you, you hold IT to get a series.

make that happen. Backers.

what we are talking about going backwards. This is a great style. Yeah, I did a reta tech series where, like, revealed to the world that I don't have .

any feelings of what .

is boring just .

the .

right time. And I was I was raised in just a strict enough way where, like CIA, genesis means nothing to me.

What that makes you .

unique um maybe a little uh where do you do you have any um old tech nostalgic feelings? You are you record collector? Do you like using wired headphones over a wired as there are some some line that you draw on the sand with a new tech?

Yeah, I was listening to the last special episode, this podcast, and I was thinking about, like, what ordinary ject? Yeah, what ordinary object do I love? Which really maybe, no, we, I have to think for a second.

I really have to think others. I do have records which I I really enjoy putting on because I enjoy the experience of an album I love. I love when an artist Taylor's album to be listen to top about. And like, I just love that I love going on the journey. I have a lot of old cameras, as you can imagine.

Do you shoot with them for fun and like make things with them?

I do um yeah like bring them on vacation or just like go out with them for a day and then they usually break at some point and actually use them. I'm a little reckless with my things because their tools can you and they break and then i'm sad for a day and then I just go to the next old camera. You know at some point i'll have the money and like know the person to fix them. And i'm looking .

forward to that.

I know the mini soa and yeah is one .

person yeah it's bob. It's bob yeah in his website .

hasn't changed since like two thousand and two yeah yeah, I love him. I can't wait to send him my money and my camera for now. So I use lot of old cameras um that's that's kind of drive a really old car yeah do you have so .

do you have an an everyday object that you think would be would qualify as no? Not tech. Yeah.

what I thought about this, a .

lotion for.

and this is gna sound weird.

And where do you end?

I the extra soft tooth brushes they're knew they did not exist a couple years ago. Extra literally .

like .

IT almost feels like you brushing your teeth the but I have but IT works I think I made .

my justice .

is working. IT has bristles but I also have receding gums. Now you know a little bit more about me and so I have no other choice but he's a really soft brush um and I love IT keeps my teeth clean my dental says so no tech yeah do .

the coton balls get in .

no .

there's not actually .

yeah metaphorical cotton balls .

um I think so. I'm a big flosser. I am also big like I have like a whole mechanism that is .

like fit to my.

Now it's like a water pig. But IT has vial .

jets for every, yeah no device. No, this is high take.

This is high tech. This is high tech. This is not. I had to go get my mouth like 3d you know yeah, I actually this company, I made them say yes and they were like you and like, it's kind of expenses. I feel bad sometimes when people tell me stuff, but I like, like how I can make a video about this. And I actually love IT yeah IT really my mother everyday yeah use that every day yeah you like them but is IT fast yeah it's like five seconds .

and IT shoots like a like these are the questions or and he's like, when where can I get .

one and how much is that?

Yeah I like if I can take care of myself and IT takes .

less than ten years. It's amazing. Yeah if you have counter space IT like IT look nice really yeah in the packaging, nice.

Like they really nail IT you have a real real like tech and not tech combined in the in that exact placing .

a like medieval mouth .

jets and yes.

I don't know, is there like personal .

attack that you guys use that you love that's like not in videos .

yeah that like you probably want .

to make a video about all this time .

didn't yeah yeah like this thing .

is going to be I do want to tell you about this because I genuinely love you. But I like god I never have to show people me putting this medieval think you .

into my mouth s and go so fast I yeah .

so is anything like .

that for you? Do you .

wouldn't make a video?

Yeah you want or you would have to. I use a regular analog tea brush ano. I use an analog brush as well. Late stay. So I believe .

the .

term is aroused and fully acoustic with the two brush. Uh, no, I don't I don't think. I think the thing about tech is like I I keep IT pretty minimal at home.

I did just install for no good reason. I needed a project. I installed the new nethermost that you did.

Yeah, yeah. I bought them. I got them on installed, and I fully broke my furnace.

And then I got called elections. And I was like, I installed them. IT was working in an hour later. They both said, are not getting power and I need help. And I turns out I had this problem last time.

I installed the original next steps from the original thermal house, which is, uh, IT trips when you like, hit the breaker switch. This is way too much information. Now I love this. When you hit the broker switch to turn them off, which they say you suppose do when you're like doing a rewiring and you turn IT back on, you also have to go to the furness and opening and find a reset switch and hit that and then IT turns back on before IT gets power again. So i'd done all of the turning off break er switch things.

I turned them all back on and then IT said I was getting power but the furness wasn't on so I didn't like see the fairness and I had to like calling electrician. He's like he literally was like, i'm sorry, it's not actually broken. I just had to reset IT and you're good like, sorry, I an idea.

I appreciate you. Yeah and I I paid them because this was a sunday but yeah that is that is what I did at home. This I got a little bit i'm pretty minimal with the text. I I got those a big deal for me having a .

ah i'm actually pretty minimal even I just described this crazy machine that I use night yeah same, same. Keep clean. But he must get that problem a lot.

I I don't know. He seemed like apologetic. I didn't have anything to fix that. He was ready to fix something and then he just like you.

literally just a massive investment .

that has a payback period in the dilema that a lot of people are in. And I had been on solar roof youtube for long enough that I was like, so I I should contribute my information that i've gathered from. And I think there is to the community yeah, the new nester's states, they don't actually do anything Better than the previous one other than fully being in agreed in the google home map instead of nest because the old ones are like half in the nest APP and have to be a home map and it's .

just so tiring some stuff. But yeah yeah, they have the like they'll only heat your home a certain amount if they know it's gonna .

hotter outside and not do. I mean, I don't use any of the new feature home and away on my phone. I it's literally just like, can I set the schedule and just delete the next step for my phone and I can actually finally delete the next step for my phone. That's why yeah you're .

going to for a long time and people are going to change companies are going to change hands like yeah .

to watch all the reviews before I buy the next thing yes.

it's so hard thinking of like a thing that you like that you wouldn't make a video about yeah if I like a thing I I tell people about IT yeah the only second thing of right now as I have .

this like I have .

this like this yeah I have .

this like emulator games.

Boy, advanced. P oh my god that has microscope .

ard slots and HDMI .

o .

um yeah .

sticker IT has yeah it's great. The screen is amazing. The battery zed pretty good.

The only problem is that the USB port is not officially USB certified. You have to use a five what brick because otherwise that explodes um problem. But it's like the best thing I ve used in a really long time.

It's just that i'm not like a gaming person I really enjoy if I had if I like sitting at the doctor's office like playing some elda, right? That's been amazing and it's Better than it's Better than like swipe a, just like doomed scrolling, right? Yeah but i'm not so much of a gaming person that feel qualified or excited enough to like make a video about IT well in the .

gaming spaces unique too because IT often feels like if you're not good, you're just going to get crapped on. Yeah yes like I love fortnight. I love you. I am really bad.

If you can sure you to rerun.

what would you do? Oh, my god. Swear to the ad. Don't do that. No, but that's interesting. I am pretty bad at and most of the games I play, yeah.

are you a force of player? Are we pay .

that with some force a or some grand tourist or like or rt, driving games are fun for me. Yeah and then I play sports games. K, play two k i'll play there's a golf K N, B, A two k game.

Play those yeah and i'm not that good. If I ever go online, I get marked. I'm not anywhere near as good as those people.

That's fun. So you know, I don't like dreamer anything. I think people are like really entertaining humans or they're really good at the game. And if they can do one of those things that they'll get audience, I would be horribly at because i'm not entertaining life and i'm bad at the game.

Oh, well, and people have been asking for a way farm life for a very long time.

Yeah, I think they are just nice. They are just and then they get IT no like, oh, this is boring yeah um yeah we are considering doing a life like podcasts at some point. Some of us we are thinking about doing so do IT. But the amount of things that we Normally cut that would just be out there, I could be careful.

But but I also like, what is the reason your cutting them? Because if it's like for time, like people are at a live event will .

sit for a long 51。 I have a hopeful there, things that i'll .

send you .

separately. I can way off E T, things out.

say things that we didn't mean to be weird. And then it's weird .

come maybe .

eighty percent, but there's some other it's never intentional anyway anyway, don't want people that like take things the wrong .

hundred percent ent.

You got to control the image.

Yeah, I can be found. You just lack everyone's phones up.

That's I like the shows.

I do that. Yeah that makes a Better environment .

on I say that yeah alright, lightning round. I have around five. Yes, exactly.

This is A A couple of quick questions. I'll give you up to ten seconds with each one. So it's like a truly like whatever you feeling.

okay. Already asked one of them, which twenty four or third, so I just knocked. I want to the site. Yeah, wired or wireless headphones?

Wireless, wireless.

Okay, what phone .

is in your poker right now? I don't. My poker right now really.

Well, I do. You have .

right now, I really in the iphone .

sixteen pro.

okay, but I also the pixel of nine pro is still in my part. I really love IT.

I think i'm going back. I picked IT up last week and IT just IT feels higher, more premium than the iphone, which is wild. I is why I take yes.

so by the time this comes out, they'll probably be in my pocket. But I unfortunate .

have the .

excel version and this .

one a best android phone camera you've used.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh okay, I wanted say it's gotta be like one of a like the it's got to be like as me or other um which is why i'm excited to hopeful ly be able to some stuff from them even though IT doesn't come to the U S. It's amazing. It's unreal and it's an R X one hundred like that's what IT reminds me of like the look the fuel yeah i'm they're really doing stuff yeah I was very .

impressed by like they have some crazy camera bomb but like I remember to show me eleven ultra and then to show me fourteen ultra yeah crazy crazy funds.

If you're like a photographer and video person, you're like really respect IT. But then we do our blind camera tests and everyone doesn't work work yes, that's fx for the art people out there.

Yeah but sometimes like a phones camera is really about like how that makes me feel. Yeah like the final images going to look pretty much like everything else or you can make IT look like everything else. So it's like how does that feel?

My hand, it's for me put on a certain frame that's it's fact i'm trying this is fact um most overrated .

camera man is not just on .

a phone .

any camera .

any camera yeah 哦。 This is the same space .

you can say that doesn't feel safe for. I I actually I just want to say I haven't tested every last camera in this earth. I know i'm trying, i'm trying, but they he've coming out with more. Um I think the most overrated though. I just think reads are .

really expensive, so we can go there.

no there over there. So expense.

And I think you in the with them for amazing. But if you gna enter that ecosystem, I think that they're kind of like a steep thing to like learn. It's expensive to buy. The files are insane, you know?

Do a Normal video for me as a terribly uh I will say I will no words that my favorite comment online is of course, the videos look at they're shot on red. That means nothing yeah there is so much other work that doesn't make a video look. Yeah.

I have seen videos that look great, that shot .

on demarkation.

But that being said, I also just don't think i'd spent enough time with reads. So.

yeah, so here IT is back.

He said, nights are overrated.

Go .

hoggy hero or sub.

Oh, I wana, I want to go hog, but I ve never been like I can have .

a hog sounds.

I just say, like asia get things on a role. So true. I'm a role person.

Folding phone or flipping from falling? folding?

No, no, no. sorry. slipping. Liping, yeah, yeah. Hamburger.

hamburger, yeah oh, you're saying that the like aspect ratio, then I want to have a bread. The aspect ratio of the bread got IT yeah OK.

But I still, like you said, living in folding. I still have to like, think, 哦 yeah I yeah .

it's I they did .

yeah, I think.

But when the trifle comes out.

what do we call IT trifle?

It's the audio. And IT will be the best thing that ever been created. And watching videos in elite sixteen by nine aspect. Cio, instead of having a square, I need to see the three giant amounts.

Yeah, yeah. I see the cases. I just think .

that the folding phones right now, like while I like that, they're generally Normal iisi size when you open them, it's like, what am I going to do with one by one? Like google map is not email, twitter the same time, but not .

about one by one. No.

it's about two, five. Yeah, exactly.

Okay, winning. And ami, overrated or underrated. H.

my god, undertake the best. So fun. amazing. I want everybody to have the night that I had when I want.

yeah. IT was the coolest, most wonderful thing. And it's not even about having the trophy. It's just about having a dedicated day to celebrate with the people you love, something that you've made. And I ve just wish that we could got a way to do that more for ourselves.

a pizz party.

if we ever. Yes, yes, I can commit .

to that, right? Can I be today in an hour?

Keyboard shortcuts or mouse a shortcuts? Keyboard shortcuts. Are you like all fully? Like mostly keyboard cuts eating?

No, i'm a fifty fifty, so that's like a tough one. But I love my keyboard. More cuts and i'm working on someone else's laptop. I'll go through and remap the entire keyboard for me before I started.

Yeah, that's enough to yes, I have a slightly psychosexual .

that .

is a psychosexual. My check pad is only four sides growing the timeline, nothing else. I have that ability with the wheel on the mouse.

I never use IT its sides scrolling and then I everything else is keyboard shortcuts and mouse and then moving I command plus linus to zoom as well the check. So just two finger, because the track pad I like have to have my curse over the timeline to do the pinch room. So if my curse anywhere else and I pinch IT won't work. So, oh, but as long as my player ad and active area in the editor is on the time line, I can command plus anywhere and then move the mouse no, I can just throw the mouths around command plus and like moving and do stuff on the .

keyboard and then like roll that is actually .

little I might be converted .

over even the motions you're making right now your hands are dancing here.

Markets also at its like this the time.

So how are you need?

Well, because we have standing and yeah, it's not all the time, but it's it's just funny when I look over and his desk is still raised, but he's sitting in his and he just .

is working like my I don't want to commit to sitting. It's funny, but I have a what .

percentage do you stand?

Sixty, okay. And I don't know. I think it's like sixty seven and then .

forty percent of the time you .

are sitting, but your desk is still OK. What i'm tired. I'm committing to sitting down now. I like lower the desk can to sit down, but sometimes let me just get like a two second break and i'll just like sit down and then came back out, yeah, yeah.

It's five percent that we am, but it's one hundred .

percent of the pictures .

that I sound design in youtube videos yeah, over or underrated. I think .

people overdo IT. Yeah, but it's that's a really .

good answer.

So who over do IT?

No names? No.

this is such a thing because there was a period of time where people started actually caring you about the sun design and IT was what differentiated the good youtube videos? yes. And then people overcorrected, including myself. Yeah, like, I put away many wishes in my video.

It's easy to go hard. Yeah, yeah. And then it's hard to scale back because you stop hearing IT, really like you're editing IT.

If something pushes into the screen, why can't I also hear is is into the screen. I tempted to ads every time something happens.

Yeah, I try. I stay away from sues because I just feel like they're so hard to get right. And when you get right, they're great. And when you get to wrong, it's really bad.

I use, I like to slow them down to twenty five percent.

Yeah, can you cup that .

out for you again? Last question, how fast can you type the alphabet?

How fast .

exactly to the second? Like a .

through z supposed to know.

you know, didn't give you the.

didn't give you the precede SHE supposed to come in .

with this. Well.

instead we can just time IT like now, like life. So what we're gonna have you do is if you could start a screen according for us OK and go to type the off of that dot APP. Also, also, we have a mechanical keyboard or an apple .

chicken ate keyboard. If typed the alphabet.

that s typed the alphabet dot APP dot APP the way your eyes look up with the magic keyboard, I can tell this is going to be fast to go.

No, i'm not. That has. I'm really i'm only competitive with things that I am actually good at. So yeah, I like that. If I have a chance that I could win.

you could find out that you're good at this right now. We give everybody three choices. Are, are three chances? And are you on the reno? yes.

But let me start and let me put IT into a different window. Let me this nice. I'm nervous. I'm getting nervous. That's good.

That's like peak heart rate. Your heart rate should be up a little bit. You know, I have the blood alone through hands. That's like good typing speeds 的。

No good.

I barely beat Brandon. I recently learned what the fastest animals heart rates are. Animal dom and sowest ming bird is one of the fastest.

Do you know how many beats per minute? A minger two hundred. And that's their arresting heart rate.

Yeah, when they're active, they're flying around. Try twelve hundred fifty. That's crazy. Now ask me the slowest turtle. Blue, well, well, now so liberating, repetitive.

I I didn't count because they'll beat like once every ten minutes, which is just not fair. You think you you the country, which means that you had like know, like active, just like living their life. Blue ee two B P M, twenty thirty second. And our hearts the size of this table. What just I thought .

was bigger sofa was .

how they references IT. But I would say, like, yeah, like seven feet OK. Anyway, are you all set up?

Yeah, nerves scared. The only rules are.

yeah, if you want to give you a test on a sample run as you're typing, if you miss your letter, IT will not continue until you hit that letter. So if you A, B, D, E, F, G, 8, 888, if you've ever hit sea, the time where keeps running.

you have hit everything. Why this is bad for me is that i'm very disley ic so you know what I know I shall know the alphabet um but I feel like I would be like it's one of those .

nh skills were like maybe you're good add and maybe you're not doesn't really matter to real life. The other tip, don't hit enter at the end .

because that reset the time so that is .

good because naturally exactly like in a through z and he gets locked in and you get three shots at lezion I might make up .

for keyboard right now. yeah. So.

okay, i'm scared.

Okay, so when I started IT starts, okay, someone coming down three.

two, one.

8。

OK ten, I just sing the song. Yeah.

without your first try.

you get two more choice. OK, I have faster.

I feel low. People tend to get faster.

and they are always surprised by where they all you go to more times.

Okay, I going to be a surprise, because unless I do, I have to out away or reset. Oh, he enter. Yeah.

here we go. Three, two, one.

I can you make that little louder?

Okay, and about .

the same.

Yeah.

I one more.

I was ten point three one. Oh, I see. Maybe I should try my other keyboard OK.

Let me just mix IT up.

I get the same results twice and you know, chose enough for me to be like, let me try sometimes. 2OK here .

are you? Three, two.

one, 妈。

No, no, no, no, no.

yeah. IT actually IT tells you which letters you took the longest stand. Somebody who ever got this one site, very specific about IT you call your fastest time.

I love, I think like ten point one three years, like I can look, I look, but I can stop the thing.

H true. Either way, IT doesn't actually change your position on .

the world in my last .

I wouldn't put in that way. I'd say you were you did take the longest time, but you are right behind a Brandon and David blame.

yeah oh OK. So David.

uh, good. Come noted fast types. yeah. Eight point eight seconds eight three. And Brandon had a nine point four four.

Who is the fastest?

So the fastest was, we have our top three. Tom Scott stepped up here and said, I will win this. And he did.

And he had three point five, five seconds. Shocking at all. yeah.

Ah, no one's ever been even close. clear. M, got four point two. And zs point, no one's gone under four seconds of tom scot.

wow. I've never taken pride in my taking.

Okay.

I literally did IT for fun. I got three point eight.

That's weird. Okay, but I have .

like that's insulting. That is so mean, I just failed and .

that's what you're going size in type racer where you're typing .

yeah like words per minute people who just type in home roll and just like android types .

of some of such like a hundred words per mental something but on this on this five point two somewhere in middle yeah .

I also was looking at my keyboard and I wonder looking at the Better, Better, Better yeah I don't .

know what i'm looking.

I was looking at the letters.

I think screen, yeah either way, just like something new by yourself.

And I knew that .

next time someone asked how fast you type but you I like.

I ve never tried .

that they i'll .

give you a, i'm back and have .

you like smash role that would be incredible.

I am I hope I smash is so low that I think this no question .

up from .

here actually that's like where I like to start things. So I feel .

bar and just keep put .

IT on the floor, buried underground and then .

you'll always get thanks for joining us on the part we appreciate you. You're welcome back anytime. And of course, we will be we'll be watching. If people want to find you online.

obviously you channel working people find you. Um I would say i'm a big youtube person foremost a instagram next. My stories is just a little into my life watching patri on theyll be launched by the time this comes out.

So tell me on patron, where do you a lot more behind the scenes? Kind of know how everything is made there? Yeah, it's around youtube .

links .

now it's .

very first away. How many times .

we had to say that? great.

I need a cool way to explain, pronounce, spelling my name and it's nowhere in near as it's like a sachi far away. That's that's a bar. What is versac? I versac I yeah the Martin has take us up is a brand we form is produced by adam and Alice and we are proud box neto pocket network in our intratracheal c he's by pencil in.

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