#2628 RHONY S15E08: Thanks But No Pranks
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Hello and welcome to Watcher Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker. Joining me as usual is the wonderful Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Hi, Bellini teams. What you doing, honey pie?

Just settling in for a Roni recap. Everyone, check us out on Patreon. Patreon.com slash Watch for Crappens. You get access to our videos with Crappens on Demand. We have a weekly bonus episode. All sorts of fun stuff. So go check that out. And without any further ado, let's just dive into this because people have been talking about Roni for the past week not necessarily in a good way. A lot of people were upset about the prank episode.

betrayed the trust of the audience quite a bit. You know, we were on Jeff Lewis earlier today, and we didn't really talk too much about the fact that, like, Jeff went on to watch Happens Live and was like, yeah, I don't like pranks. And I think this is bad. And I think this was wrong. And, you know, I think it was a bad move, bad move of this show to build... It's okay to have a prank, but the way that they framed it on this episode...

I think that they're going to have to do a lot of work to get that goodwill back from the audience that they've squandered. I mean, it's not just the way that they framed it on the show. It's that they based the whole season on this one thing. It's like coming up this season, this thing happens. And so people are like, oh my God, this show has some life in it. And it turned out they do not. It was just a joke.

But, you know, whatever. It's like, whatever. And we move on. You know what I mean? Like, I can't. It's too boring to keep talking about over and over again, you know? We've got new things. But the show, this is the show that never learns its lesson, as we know. I've said it nine million times this year. So they're not going to learn their lesson from this, even in the moment. They are going to add on to this and make it more of a storyline by changing it and making it that Brynn never even knew it was a storyline.

I was surprised, actually, by the turn that this took. It's like, I get it now. In some ways, it's kind of brilliant what they did. They got us all mad. They got the audience so mad about this prank. And then we find out that there's way more, not way more that's interesting, but way more to the story. So basically, we come back to the dodgeball court.

And, you know, they're like, oh, my God, oh, my God, all this stuff about this rumor that's going around. And, you know, because Rebecca has walked off, has stormed off, allegedly furious, and Aaron has gone after her. And now Aaron and Rebecca walk back. And Sai's like, I don't even know what to do with my facial expressions, oh, my God.

And then Rebecca's like, guys, so Gavin does not know about this. I told him the reason why I'm feeling sick is because my diva cup keeps falling out and I'm doing weird things to my body. But that's it. Okay.

So Rebecca's like, so you guys have to zip your fucking leaky mouths, okay? And Jenna's like, wait, so your husband, he doesn't know that you're... She's like, it's early. It's just five weeks.

So who told who? Aside from this, Aaron, which is a whole other situation, I'm very, very, very upset with Aaron. Very, very, very upset with Aaron. Nobody from that 70s show is ever going to be nice to Aaron again. I can promise you that much.

But I would never say anything to anyone that you're pregnant, because I know you're not supposed to say anything until three months. But that being said, I did tell my mother and about five other people off camera. But that's it. That's all I've spoken to. So, Bryn, did you tell them? And Bryn's like, um, uh-huh.

No, I mean, I didn't tell him you're pregnant. I just told him I heard other things. Beep, beep, boop, boop, bop, bop, boop, boop, boop. Mostly, I need bottle. I'm sick.

Yeah, I'm telling people that you do like a Russian roulette with like other names. And she's like, okay. That's what you do with Gav Gav to have fun fun. Interesting. So rumors are going around then? And she's like, yeah, that you and Gav Gav like to have fun fun. It's so offensive if I just say things twice. Gav Gav, fun fun. Slut slut. See? It's great.

So Jenna tells us, Jenna's like upset because she's like, you know, Brynn likes to embellish, you know, and I'm just like bummed that she's like gossiping about someone's marriage that could like do potential damage to their marriage. And I went through that because I was at it on page six. I have trauma. So then Rebecca is basically like, hey Brynn, you're strangely quiet. And Brynn's like, I'm just like having my thoughts back, you know?

So then Aaron's like, okay, Rebecca, you should just, like, tell them. Like, tell them. It's, like, so hilarious. Just, like, tell them. So...

It comes out. Rebecca's like, guys, we're fucking with you. We just wanted to see who the leaky pigeons are. And now we know who the leaky pigeons are. It's you guys. It's Brynn. And so they start cracking up. And Aaron's like, okay, here's how it happened. Last Tuesday, Rebecca and I are having lunch and a light bulb goes off in Rebecca's head.

And she says, I think it's hard in a big group when there's a leaky pigeon. Who's the leaky pigeon? Shouldn't it be leaky pitcher, by the way? It drives me nuts that the entire episode they keep saying leaky pigeon. Like, a leaky pigeon is...

Really, actually, of course it would be Rebecca Minkoff to create a concept of a leaky pigeon. She just loves leaks. She even projects it onto animals. How about a pigeon that just has a pigeon with diarrhea just flying around like, Rebecca! Jeez! It started with the pigeon thing from fucking Uwe. It's just, pigeon, pigeon this, pigeon that. You're all pigeons. And so now they've turned it into the pigeon is leaking. Yeah.

Now we've got leaky pigeons. So Rebecca's like, guys, we just came up with a really funny harmless rumor that she's pregnant. Maybe you just didn't know who the dad is. And so Aaron's like, yeah. And then the following day, I go to lunch with Jessel and Bryn, and I find the perfect moment to drop the news. And it was when I dropped the news. Whoa! Good one, Aaron! Yeah.

So then Raquel is... So we see the conversation, right? We've already seen it. But Brynn's like, is she pregnant again? Who's the dad? And Aaron's like, it's not even a joke. They're not sure yet. She had one night. Like, a crazy night, guys. It was just one crazy night. Yeah. Basically, it's like everything we saw last week. The only new thing that we see is that when Abe, the babe, and Aaron go out to a double date with Mal and...

Raquel, they act, Aaron actually tells Raquel that there's a prank going on. So Raquel actually knew, I think that was oddly enough, a pretty nice thing because like, she's the new girl. So she's like, look, I'm in my mind, I'm thinking she's telling Raquel. Cause she's like, I'm going to spare her, you know? So then, you know, they're just talking about like the seeds were planted. The rumors are going to spread far and wide, wide. So now we're back to dodgeball and Jussel's like, I don't know guys, that was that kind of a fucked up lie. And so I was like, yeah,

That was like really fucked up guys. So they were like, you know, Erin has this look on her face. She's so proud. She's like taught people a lesson. And, um, you know, the audience is just like, I can't believe we, we fell for this bullshit.

But also, and Uwe says it the best, when she says, if I were Aaron and Rebecca comes up to me and says, let's find Leaky Pigeon, I would be like, girl, I don't think I'm the one you should be going to because I'm like the Leaky Leak of all the Leaky Pigeon because Aaron is the worst. I mean, Aaron ties with Brynn as being of the worst of like, oh my God, how are you feeling about her? Here's how she's feeling about you.

Well, also, like, Aaron has spent the whole season... Are you pregnant? I won't tell anybody. She's pregnant. I mean, the whole thing was Erica... Not Erica. Aaron, sorry. Two recaps in a day. I'm like, Erica! The whole thing was Aaron leaking it in the first place. How is everybody else in trouble? Exactly. Well, the whole... And the thing is that, like...

Yeah.

is actually exposing that Aaron does add sizzle or has lies by omission and lets people infer things.

So Aaron's like, just let the record stand. I would never say someone was pregnant if they asked me not to. Because guess what? I have a secret about almost every person here. It's like, you should have just stopped the first sentence. Why are you saying that? Because then Uba's like, oh no, you don't have a secret about me. Do not lie. Do not lie. If you do, tell it to the group right now. You lying bitch. I know for 100% sure you do not have a secret about you. Basic.

basic bitch who drinks water from glasses. She's like, okay, I don't have a secret on you then. She goes, okay, so don't say everyone. And she's, we was like, what is she doing? What is she, the mafia? You know? And Rebecca's like, well, I think this just teaches us all a lesson. If you want to keep a secret, don't tell these two. And she points to Jessel and Brynn.

And so Brynn's like, oh yeah, you need new material. Like, you need better jokes. What are you so defensive at? She's still not even coming at you like you deserve. You just went and told everybody that she's like a total whore. It's like, yeah. What are you? You do not. You have no room to be defensive right now, man. Yeah. And then when later on we find out that Brynn knew it was a prank, so she was adding lots of sizzle to this prank, hoping to get other people being like, wow, Becca's a slut.

So, Bryn is basically like, why are you testing us? Okay, this isn't SAT prep. Like, unless you're in an Ivy League school, you don't need to test people, let alone friends. Like, I think... Oh, honey. See, don't say you need better jokes and then you make that clunky one right there, okay? But also to be like, oh, you don't need to test us. You failed the test. You know what I mean? Like, obviously you do need to test. You're like someone who hits another car in parallel parking. You know, like, there shouldn't even be testing. You're the reason that there's testing.

You know what I mean? So then Jessel's like, excuse me, do not include me in this. I told my mother and that's it. And then we see her telling her mother, you know. And then Raquel's like, you told your mom? She's like, well, I thought she was getting pregnant and knocked up by some random. And I was like, I have to tell somebody. And then we see that shot again of her mom going, what? What?

So, now, I love her mom. So, now it's another day. So, Brynn goes and meets Jessel at, like, a patio. They're wearing captain's hats. It's Fleet Week in New York City. So, they've gone out to some bar to find sailors, I guess. I want to make a sailor. It's Fleet Week. So, Jessel and Brynn sit down to have this lunch.

And they are just talking about sailors coming in and Brynn. This, of course, gives Brynn a chance to make all the most obvious jokes. Like, I'm just, like, lost at sea with, like, no semen inside. Just jostle.

Well, I need someone to push my chair in, but I think I just have to do it myself. Do you want to switch chairs? Do you want to switch chairs? You can use my face. Just kidding. Just kidding. So pretend I'm Puppet. That's hilarious. So now they start talking about the third child thing, which...

I still, I don't know. It's, do I not believe it or do I just not care? I don't know. I think it's a combination. It's crazy over having a third child, you know, aren't the first two painful enough, you know, look at them just over there, knocking everything over everywhere they go. Yeah. So, but she's talking about how Jaisal says they've got a therapist from Mexico who's can really help us navigate. And, um, you know, but then she goes, he's really cool. Cause he's from Mexico. Oh, wow. Yeah.

So then Jussel's like, well, as long as this day is shot, since no one was there to push in my chair, why don't you tell me about your love life? Who are you dating? And so Bryn Charles talks about like,

Being in your late 30s, the pool of eligible men is much smaller. The good guys are all gone. They're all taken. And when she was in her 20s, it was much easier. But she's been freezing her egg. And she's kind of like, man, why did I take Plan B so many times? Like, why did I take Plan B when I had so many great options? I never should have done that. She's like, I just feel like Carrie Bradshaw making the biggest mistake of her life, not marrying Aiden. Yeah.

I'm so sad that you're still comparing yourself to Carrie Bradshaw. Like, please. Also, I feel bad for this guy because she's talking about the billionaire Hugh Cant, you know, who's just like a goofy version, like Funhouse Mirror version of Hugh Grant. And...

I feel bad for him because she's just kind of using this dude. And he's like, all right, someone's talking to me. I'm in pretty girl talking to me about 20 years. My junior, I'm in, what do I need to do? You know? Yeah. I mean, here's a sort of a hot, sort of a hot take that this scene, when, when Bryn was talking about like,

freezing her eggs and how it's tough i actually i liked this i felt like this was actually a very honest thing that she was sharing and like how it is tough and and all that stuff and i was like this is the brin that i like i like when she's just like being more real and then but then it's like so and what we're gonna do is we're gonna have like a baby and we're gonna borrow a baby for a day and like see how it is a little baby i was like okay and now we're back to like

You know, like, silliness. This is actually not her fault, but, like, the show is, like, just let her have a real moment. Why do we have to have, like, a scene of, like, we're going to see what it's like to be parents for a day. I was like, oh. I don't know if I'm articulating myself right, but I just had a glimmer of feeling like,

There was something compelling about Brynn. And I was like, it became very quick to realize, oh, this is like Fleet Week itself. It will be fleeting because we're going to go into a fake scene of child rearing. Well, at least it wasn't a doll baby because that would have been worse. At least it was a real kid. I didn't even catch this because when the scene actually came up, I was like,

who the fuck is that kid why is there a child i never really got it i was like why is there a kid here are they not going to talk about how the kid ended up here did it just happen to crawl up to the fifth floor and that they're too afraid to let it crawl down by itself like what happened yeah no i mean brin's like yeah like little like my friend laura is bringing over luca and giddy and i are going to test drive a two-year-old to see if we could be co-parents i guess i guess what i'm trying to say is that like

I thought what Bryn was sharing was compelling because I felt like it was honest. You said she was being truthful and then she resorted to a stupid hack. Then you realize, oh, this is just set up for another classic reality show scene. I'm like, can we be parents? I was like, oh, okay. It just went from being interesting to a groan.

yeah so then um she's like uh jessel's like so you just think that he's in love with the idea of you and she's like no um unfortunately i think like he's actually into me which is like so crazy and she's like why do you say that what's wrong with you by the way there's no sailors here just don't answer because i really don't care does anybody you're gay where are the sailors and they're like chelsea girl

Where do you think they come? You think sailors are going to come out of here and get a mediocre blowjob? They're in fucking Hell's Kitchen. It's fucking Chelsea. Yeah. So now Jenna's in her bathroom and she has a black eye from dodgeball. She's like, I'm like kind of into my black eye. It's like pretty cool. I think it's like extra spice. I like it.

but also and then we're strong but she's also kind of a bitch so and then uber's on the phone with someone in wendy and she's like hi this is uber i've been stalking your instagram with pictures and for picnics i want to do a picnic with i want to have a perfect picnic and um uber's basically like yeah we're 35 we're not playing dodgeball for fun we're gonna have a fancy picnic instead

So then Mel and Raquel go to, like, a sex museum. Isn't this a sex museum? Or is this... There's a lot of, like, vaginas. Like, this episode is, like, sex toys and, like...

What's the other one? It's like sex toy, sex toy, freezing eggs, and in vitro. Reproductive elements. You know, yeah, this is like a real place. I feel like I walked by this place. I feel like it's on like Fifth Avenue or something like that. Something random, like near the Empire State Building. I just remember I was walking by there recently and I was desperate in need of like...

And I think I got like a piece of, I think I got like a grocery. I got a dildo. I went, I ate a, they had the most of that. It's like gum from the fifth grade. They have an amazing cafeteria there. They have kale salads in the shape of penises. It's, I don't know how they do it.

I love it's kale. Because it's just so gross looking. It's like, oh, geez. That's really vain. That's kale. They're like, it's actually supposed to represent body parts in the 70s. So there's a lot of kale. I'm a lunatic right now. I don't know what I'm talking about. So they're in there here. Oh, you know what? I'm sorry. This is the sex shop. This is different. Because the museum, I think, is later. This is like a sex shop. This is different.

Now I know why you were saying what you were saying. Because I got confused with the sex shop with the sex museum that they had on this episode. Right. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, every scene is something to do with either a sex store, you know, sex paraphernalia, or eggs, or in vitro, or something like that. You know, or trying out a baby or whatever. Yeah. So, I mean, I guess maybe that's not part. Maybe it's a theme. I don't know. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial.

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So then Raquel's like, oh, gosh, so what is this? A speakeasy sex shop? I mean, this is so New York. This is just so New York. And it's like in an office building. And they're like, wow, this is so wild. So basically, we find out that this is some they're going to have a ball for their engagement party. And she means like the old like.

drag queen like like paris is burning i actually like this what she's like she tells the person behind the counter like yeah we're gonna do like a ball for the theme and she's like you know like with pose and the employee is like yeah so like not like cinderella cinderella more like i was like i love that she was like you don't have to explain to this person what a ball is she knows she starts doing the whole dance she knew long before pose ma'am

And then Raquel just trying to explain, uh, like gay men things. She's like ballroom. It's an underground dance culture started by young queer men of color. It's about being fierce, but most of all, it's about community and supportive environments, making us all feel loved. Those are values we treasured. I hope my mom comes. Yeah. So, um,

The whole thing is that she has a fraught relationship with her mom these days. And she hopes that her mom is going to come to this engagement party that's also going to feature various ball gags and whips. That just cracked me up. She's like, God...

My mom's very, you know, she was progressive, but then she became really religious and conservative and it just changed her. She got brainwashed. And I really hope she comes to this BDSM party I'm throwing because it would really hurt my feelings if she didn't. So they're trying all sorts of stuff.

I know. This is so funny to me. This seems so wild. She's just such a self-serious person, too, you know? Yeah. But ultimately silly at the end of the day. Yeah, I really like Raquel. And we've said this a million times. I think we both really like her. We're just not sure that she's really it for a real housewife.

So then we go over to Erin and her mom, and they're at some kids' play experience thing called Genius Gems. And Jessel and her mom and Jessel's two little monster children come in and immediately start knocking everything over and pushing people into garbage cans and like –

I know. Pulling all the fire alarms. Genius gems. I was like, wow, it's a diamond shop. Nope. It was just a place where you could either have intelligent children playing with blocks and putting them together or terrible children just punching the blocks and knocking everything over. Yes. Some are builders, some are knocker overs. And guess which one I was. So yeah, you were probably writing about the builders. Like these builders are terrible.

I was probably organizing people. One person at a time. And then people started knocking them over. And here's what I'd like to say. Parents, do you not take care of your children in the gem store? Please take care of your children. Just blogging. I'm like, here we go. The final piece in my representation of the I.M.P.E.G. pyramid in front of the Louvre. Oh my god! Who knocked over my pyramid? Yeah.

So fun. Okay, so, yeah, so they're at that place, and then we see Brynn going to the Museum of Sex. So it's another sex shop scene. And she's like, oh my god, I feel like I'm coming home. Ha ha ha!

It's really goes exactly the way you'd expect it. And I think that the, like the big, like the joke here is that we're going to cut back and forth between Jessalyn and Aaron playing with their kids, doing something wholesome, but the rest of the women are like grabbing dildos and like a glory hole reenactment. Yeah. And so it's funny. So they're like, so Brent, so it's Raquel Bryn and I think Psy comes and Uba and

Or is that a different scene? No, it's the same scene. It's the same compelling scene, yes. They're like, so what do your orgasms feel like, Brandon? She's like, like my whole body. I've had people tell me, you're super hot, but you look fucking stupid when you cum. Yeah.

So then we – there's a lot of sort of back and forth stuff that's really not that interesting. But eventually we land back at Venus Gems.

If I have to say Genius Gems one more time, I swear to God. So Aaron is like, so what did you think about Donjball? And Jess is like, oh my God. She's like, yeah, you were freaking out. Guess what, mom? We played another prank. It was Rebecca's idea to see, like, she was, like, pregnant. And she's going to say, like, where she's pregnant and doesn't know who the father is because she has, like, four kids.

And Jessa's mom is like, a one-night stand for a joke? What? And Jessa's like, well, I'm not trying to spread a rumor like that. And Aaron's like, yeah, of course. And Jessa's like, well, that's a serious accusation and definitely not about Rebecca Minkoff. And then Bryn walks in and says, and then I asked Rand and people are saying X, Y, Z. And I was like, seriously? Yeah.

I had no idea she was going to go and say she called around and found out that they're freaking. And I don't think she wants to spread the rumor because she doesn't like Rebecca. I think she just likes to spread rumors, and Rebecca's an easy target for her. So then we go back to the sex museum, and...

And Brynn is like, okay, everyone. So Jessel, Aaron, and I go to lunch. And then Aaron tells this whole story. And Jessel believed her, but I didn't. And then afterwards, Aaron and I had a drink. And she told me that she was pregnant, but that the do part was a prank. And so Aaron told me. And it was just the fact that they didn't know what the father was. It was the prank. And I'm like, okay, I'll be in on it. I was like, wow, Brynn is like...

Like, Bryn, you've been caught. You're caught. And you're trying to wiggle your way out of it. That's what I thought at this point. That's what I was thinking, too. And I still don't really know what to think. Except that I know that Aaron's also a goddamn liar. So it's not like I trust her either. But Bryn, yeah. So Bryn's saying she knew that the pregnancy thing was a prank. So she's going to add some sauce to it and tell everybody on purpose that Rebecca's being a slut. And this was the setup. Yeah.

So then we cut back and I was doing that mostly for myself to keep this off. You didn't say anything wrong. I'm just like trying to get it. No, I could see it. Sometimes it's a lot. It's just too stupid. It's too many details for such a stupid plot. Okay. So then Jussel's like, wait, did she know? And Aaron's like, no, she wasn't in on it. And then she tells us in the typical shady Aaron way. She's like, I actually told Brynn after we got a drink, which I'm not doing with her anymore, by the way.

And she was like, did she really fuck other guys? And I was like, eh. And that was me being like, eh, exactly like it was, which means I don't know, but no. How does that exonerate you or justify that? You don't just tell people she is fucking other guys and got pregnant from another guy. Was she? Wait, was she sleeping with another guy? Eh, I don't know. Yeah.

How do you say the inflammatory part on camera and then off camera be like, well, maybe it was a lie. And then you're going to go and start accusing Bryn of being like gossiping and lying and putting sizzle on it on camera and then having us all turn against Bryn. I mean, look, Bryn does a lot of things for us to turn against her. Bryn does a lot of work herself. But you can't do this whole season of like, Bryn goes and tells Jenna that I said this. She always puts her sizzle on things. That's what she does. And that's why I'm mad at Bryn. But you were acting

putting a sizzle you actually are setting up Bryn and please don't make me advocate for Bryn here but you are I'm kind of on Bryn's side about this I mean I kind of am but I just don't believe the whole thing because then why didn't Bryn at the when this all happened and Rebecca and Aaron were like haha we got you guys wasn't why wasn't Bryn like yeah yeah we got you guys that was funny she got defensive against Rebecca was like you need to come up with more jokes and

When they were telling her, why were you lying about stuff? Brynn didn't stand up for herself. She just got really defensive and started being mean. Because she still was half-pranked. Because she thought one half of the prank... She knew one half of the prank was a prank, but she didn't know the other half of the prank was a prank. So she still got pranked. So she could either choose the, I'm a pranker or I'm the pranky. And she says, I'm going to be the pranky.

I have a chance to be indignant right now and to be upset at someone, so I'm going to choose that path. So then we go back to the sex museum and Raquel is like, so everyone, this is so weird because we were on a double date and she told me she didn't know and that she was trying to seek out a leaky pigeon. And then basically Brynn tells everyone, yeah, I thought this was a fun prank and everything and I knew about it. So she tells everyone that she knows.

And everyone's like, so this is kind of fucked up because basically she did this prank and then she told you, but then she tells Raquel that you had no idea about it. So everyone was lying to Raquel about Brynn's involvement in the prank. To make it look like Brynn's just going around and making up horrible slut stories about

Right. Brynn thought she was just making the prank more fun because she knew it was a prank. And ultimately, it was just a prank on Jessel because Jessel was the only one who had no idea that it was a prank, as usual. Well, and Psy. Psy didn't know. Oh, yeah. Psy's involvement was for like 45 seconds, but Jessel actually had a dinner and then she went to a jewelry store with her mom and told her mom, told her therapist in Mexico, you know, the whole thing.

So then Uwe's saying, well, I was getting really uncomfortable and I think Brynn sensed it. And so she saved the day by telling me it was a prank. And then Brynn's like, but I did think she was pregnant when we were playing dodgeball. And Raquel's like, so you thought she was pregnant, but you thought she was pregnant with her husband's baby? And she's like, yeah. So then we go back to Aaron and Aaron's like, I mean, if someone told me they were pregnant early on and said, don't say anything, I would never say it. You know me.

You know what? Here's what we definitely know about Erin. She's a terrible pranker. This is the second season in a row where her pranks have fallen so fucking flat. Last year it was about the phone, and then she's like, why? It's a joke. And this year, I'm actually angry at...

At how bad she is of a prankster because she goes on Rebecca's like, everyone says I'm boring. So I'm going to do a prank. And Aaron's like, I'll do it with you. And then she basically fucks up Rebecca's prank for it. Let Rebecca have her prank. You ruined Rebecca Minkoff's prank. Yeah. So Dorothy is like, well, people have to be able to trust you. And Aaron says, yeah, that was the moral of the story. Yeah.

So says the lady who just completely fucked somebody over during the prank. So then Uber's like, you know, okay, listen, I'm just, I'm thinking I could be wrong, but I think the reason she told you it was a prank was because she wants you to do it and then go around to everyone else and say, look, look, who's the leaky pigeon. Because if she didn't tell you it's a prank,

Then you would not have said it. And I was so glad that it was taking Uba a minute to piece it together because I was like, oh, okay, I'm kind of getting it now because I didn't really get it. I still thought Bryn was lying at this point. So then Uba is like, well, why didn't Erin come and tell me the story? Why didn't she tell me? Because she knows I wouldn't tell anybody. So she found someone who does exactly what she wants, which is fly, fly away with the message.

which is so true. And Aaron and Bryn do this with each other. They just, they probably get together and are like, let's do this storyline and let's do this. And then we'll fight over this. Yeah. And Sai is actually the one who has some sense. And she's like, you know what? It's safe to say that Aaron already failed her own test. She leaked this prank to Raquel. She leaked this prank to Bryn. And out of all the women in this group, Aaron is the last person who needs to be testing people on who is a leaky pigeon. And what the fuck is a leaky pigeon in the first place? It's disgusting. Get the pigeon a diaper. Put it down. Okay.

If we've got leaky pigeons in New York, something tells me there could be a public health issue going on. Sarah Cal's like, she wanted to believe that you're a leaky pigeon and that you're like this terrible person that would go out and tell us these things because she told me that you and Jessel bought it hook, line, and sinker. I feel like Erin manipulated the situation, but...

She left out Bryn was going to be a part of it. So the minute Bryn started speaking, I was like, holy shit, Bryn's a pigeon. This is fucked up. This is the most convoluted, uninteresting storyline. It's so hilarious. And yet, you know what? I can't keep saying it's uninteresting because the way that I am actually shouting into the microphone. It's getting more interesting. Sure. Yeah.

For sure, I have to say, with everyone else, I was really upset with the prank last week. But actually seeing what it's actually revealing is surprisingly interesting. I'm okay with this. Here's something really fucked up.

Okay. They put this on right after Beverly Hills, right? Which Beverly Hills is their highest rated show. And it's not that I'm actively rooting against New York, but this was the highest ratings of the season. They got 0.406 million viewers. So that's 400,000 people.

which, you know, isn't great. But for them, it's good. I mean, they've been around 300,000. So this stupid plot line in the network's mind, because all they do is look at these ratings, is like, ah, see, it's good now. We fixed it with that stupid prank storyline.

Yeah, because I think that the show is now going into big hate-watch territory where people are like, I'm so mad about that prank. I just want to watch it again and get mad about something else. So now they're talking about this. But it is kind of fucked up what Erin did because Erin is framing Brynn in this situation. So then ultimately, they're all upset. And then Uba's like, okay, well, I have to go to a picnic. Goodbye, everyone. And then she slides down a blowjob. There's like a mouth.

It's like, yeah, now you can know what it's like to be semen during a blowjob. And she's like, and then she's like screaming for a while. She's like, woo.

It just keeps going. And then you just hear her crash. She winds up on the sixth train. It's a big slide. Then we go to Jessalyn Povitt, and he's bringing bowls of snacks to the table. It's like, what is this? A freaking fiesta? This is supposed to be therapy. Why don't you just get a Corona? And he's like, we should have tacos. We're talking to someone in Mexico. It's...

She's like, I'm not eating on this call. And he's like, well, we're just going to have some chips and salsa. Which, by the way, it's not appropriate to be snacking while you're talking to a therapist. I'm a chili now. Jess is like, okay. Hi, Joe. Thank you for your patience with us. So they're talking to this therapist about this whole thing and talking about how Puppet –

is always defers to, it's time to say certain hard truths, which is, you know, we all love Povet last season because Povet's Povet and does his little food things. It's so amusing. I think he's like a little too aware of how much we all loved him. And he's trying to like lean into this character. And I think what's happening is he's just being a dick because you're like, you're in therapy right now. And like, you have a professional on the phone, you're eating chips and salsa and everything is always like a little joke, like the wink wink. It's like,

Okay, we get it, Povit. Just let us love you the way we loved you last season.

I think people sometimes people are just like that, you know, and then you're married to Jussel who's constantly just going and going until she gets what she wants. It's like, do you want children? Nope. Do you want them now? Nope. Do you want them now? Nope. Can I have another kid? Nope. I'm going to get a therapist. Okay. Therapist. You tell him, do you want a kid? Nope. I still don't. Why don't you want a kid? I told you I don't. Then the therapist is like, why don't you want a kid?

shouldn't you all want kids to have a kid but then it turns out the prophet kind of does want a kid because then he admits that he was 99 against kids but that one percent's there and then the doctor is like oh great so there's one percent and he's like yeah so maybe we can have another kid i was like oh god so this is just your game you just say no multiple times until someone talks you into it that kid's gonna feel very very lucky when they watch this later yeah

Also, Jess will beware of a passive-aggressive chip, because we saw it happen with Shannon Bedore, and the fact that they're doing this therapy, and she's like, you know, we're just so busy with kids and with work, and it's just like, sometimes you sort of forget. Wow.

Yeah. I'm sorry. Pavit's having a salsa party in honor of you being in Mexico City. She literally said that. That sounds like something we would say. She said it. Fried chicken committee having a fiesta today. Congratulations. You just learned about Mezcal courtesy of Erin. Yeah. So then Pavit's like, well, if I had to bet money, will we have a baby girl next year? I don't bet money, but I will bet a flauta. We'll see.

By the way, also, his reasoning for not having a third child is not because... This is good, actually. He's not like, oh, hey, I only want to have two children. It's a lot of work. He's like, no, when we travel, right now we're four people. That's one hotel room.

Five, five, five, three kids. Now you're at five. That's two hotel rooms. That's expensive. I was like, okay. Miles worked differently. Miles worked differently. Literally said miles worked differently with five. So I don't think he's even leaning into it. I think that's just who he is. And it's like, it's one thing to say, look, we just don't have the resources to support.

three children and we don't have the room or we don't have the bandwidth or whatever. He's like, no, my miles. I don't think we can do it. He's more worried about the miles.

All right, so now we get the Brynn trying out a two-year-old. So, Luca comes over. He can't. Oh, no. Luca's a toddler. And so, what's the other guy's name? I forget. Gideon comes over. Gideon. Yeah. And so, Brynn's like, oh, my God. Can we hide from Gideon? Hey, Brynn, you can't see us. You can't see us. We're hiding. Oh, my God.

I will say, I mean, Brynn is really good with kids. She acts just like one. She talks to them. She was already talking to them in the kid voice. They want to pretend we're hiding. So he comes over and he's like, oh, I thought we were doing a wine tasting today, but we're babysitting. That's...

That's so fun. So glad I cancelled my return trip to London for this. Okay, well, okay, let me pour some of this $1,000 Dom Perignon that Heather Dubreuil gave me. I'm going to pour it in my glass. Oh, you put your Tonka truck in it. Thank you. Or your Hot Wheels. I love that in my expensive champagne. So lovely. Glad I came over today. Thank you so much.

Well, I haven't talked to Gideon much about whether or not he wants kids, but he didn't when we were together. He just didn't want them. He said, if you want to, we will. But he's like, I'm good with that kids because he likes his life, you know, but he's never going to be like gung ho on the kid thing. But he's really rich. So I'm going to have a kid with him. So I was just like thinking, like, maybe I've got some eggs and like, maybe we could like co-bear it. And he's like, oh, yeah.

Um, I would love that because I'm on television. Just, I just have to, let me just think about how I will tell my mother and let me just, let me just imagine it. Okay. And yes, it will be awful. Great. Got it. Yeah. God, it's fucking, I don't think he's, he says that he'd be down to do it, but

I don't think he is. I think he's on camera. I mean, it's just such a desperate ploy. It's like, okay, I dumped you. Not going to date you anymore. But you are still rich, so I'd love you to be the father of my children. You want to? It's so offensive. I mean, this guy's just such a goofball. He's like, ooh, maybe I have a chance still. And please trim your chest if you're going to do your open shirt like that, Gideon. You seem like a fairly nice person, but...

You're saddened me today. It was a lot. There's a lot of hair going on. We just needed that one Gideon scene of sitting in that fancy car. And then he's like, he's the one that got away. And then he never calls back. You know, it's like you had your chance. I'm a billionaire. Goodbye. But this whole like still showing up and like, I don't know. I feel bad for Gideon. What's wrong with Gideon? I don't know. It looks like he went through something since last season. I feel like he's like 10 years older. His hair is big and poofy. A drying cycle. He looks like he was left in the dryer for too long. Yeah.

I know. I was like, oh, God, someone check in on Gideon. So now we go to a picnic in Central Park. This is Uba. Uba's picnic. The perfect picnic. Because Wendy, the party planner, was like, I've got a great idea for you. We're going to make you the perfect picnic. So here it is. The perfect picnic has arrived. And there are tons and tons of little pigeons that don't appear to be leaking, which is great.

- Yeah, pigeons are the theme of the season. So then they have little wooden pigeons and then Uba's like, "Oh my God, I've decided to invite these girls "to show them how to be classy."

So, you know, this is New York. So everybody arrives and it's five minutes of, Oh my God, you look amazing. What are you wearing? Oh my God, you look so pretty. Oh my God, you are so wearing clothes right now. Oh my God, everybody looks like they're wearing clothes right now. Are you wearing clothes? Oh my God, you're wearing so many clothes. What are you wearing? Okay.

So Brynn is like, yeah, I was like talking to my brother last night and I was telling him that like I made up with you, Si. He's like, good, I love Si. So Si and Brynn are just like fine now, which I don't know where that happened. Because I thought that they were like had like a fake peace or a fake truce, but apparently it's a truce now. So that's resolved, I guess. Yeah.

So I was like, yeah. So like, I was thinking about that prank and I was like, that's fucking shady. Like when we got home that day from dodgeball, this is like me talking about Rebecca. Like I was like, Hey, that light was awesome. It was so stressed out. And then she wrote back. He, which by the way, it's funny. Cause Rebecca would totally write back. He, just, yeah.

You know, that's all she writes. It's like, hey, Becky, so we need to know for Q4, what are your intentions for the line? Okay, we need you to answer, Becky. Okay, seriously. Emoji. So she's like, I said, Brynn knew about the prank, right? And she said, no, she didn't. Only Raquel.

And Bryn's like, so Aaron literally just sat there and told her that Bryn didn't know. And she's like, she set you up. Who says that? And so it was like, we should take all these pigeons and just leave one in the table. And Bryn's like, it's frustrating dealing with Aaron when she doesn't remember the shit she does. She forgets she told me about Psy. She forgets saying Jenna's broke. Now I really, I just don't really understand what she's doing or she's trying to do or like what, nothing adds up.

You're both compulsive liars and you're getting caught on it and trying to point fingers at each other and start plots that are stupid. Both of you just get lives. Just lead lives that we want to watch, please. So Jenna walks up and Brynn is like, okay, fun news. I got set up. Not on a hot day, but with a hot guy. Erin set me up. And she's like, oh.

What do you mean? Is anyone going to ask me about my black eye, by the way? And it was like, there's a difference between set up and framed. And she got framed. So she tells her the story. When Aaron told me about the prank, we were at lunch. And after that lunch, Aaron and I went and had a drink. And I was like, dude, no way. And she's like, no, it's not true.

And she said, "Erin told me that she's pregnant. Of course it's Gavin's, but she wanted to do this prank on everyone." So I was like, "Oh my God, let me in on the prank." And that's why at Dodgeball I was like, "Hey hoes." And I'm winking and making all the jokes and being like, "Should we take a pregnancy test?"

Jenna's like, are you fucking kidding me? And Brynn's like, yeah, just like crazy. Like, why would you just be like, oh no, no dude, she knew. And Jenna's like, of course, I'm an erin. What the fuck? And Yuba's like, so if they couldn't find the pigeon, then we would be looking for the pigeon, right? But she's the pigeon. Pigeon, pigeon, pigeon, everywhere pigeon. And then in walks erin, not realizing that everyone's talking about her.

And then we got the mid-season trailer, which looked all right. Well, the mid-season trailer looked like, it looked like nothing interesting happens until apparently the last night of Puerto Rico. So who knows when that's going to be, but that's when the big fight happens that we, we hope is a fight and not another prank. Yeah. So we'll see episode, I guess, 16. Did they get a 16 episode season? What are you making a 12 episode season? Please. 12 episodes. What are you guys doing over there?

All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. Probably one of our shortest recaps of all time, but it was still fun. I had a good time. Hope you have fun listening to it. We will talk to you tomorrow for Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Everybody, thanks so much for being here. We'll talk to you next time.

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