180 - Hollywood Ruins Joker & Rings Of Power ft. Nerdrotic | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 180
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Their morals are so f***ing upside down, they don't know good for bad anymore. What was the budget? A billion dollars. Wait, what's white passing? You're white passing, Eli. Wow, I don't like the Jews. Holy s***. Speaking of which, what do you think about the Israel situation right now? Son of a b***h. I don't need to start right now.

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Cody, you ready? I need electrolytes. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribed Podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Doubletap, Mr. Nerd Roddick. Hello. Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator, and we're going to talk about how much we love Disney. They're great. And then Chase now put his face with the... Like a Disney hitman. Oh, yeah.

He's the new Snow White. Oh, that's right. You just got to include the bit from Family Guy. Just don't ride the train ride. Well, we're in a world now like I wouldn't be Snow White if I was white, but since I'm a dude, I can now be Snow White. I know. As long as I don't identify as a dude. Yeah. Yeah. That's the world we live in. Brave new world for white men. It's a scary new world for white men.

Dude, it's been a while. Your last episode fucking killed. You're at like...

We had you at 900,000. You're at 1.1. You're about to hit 1.2. Yep. You're fucking killing the game. Doing all right. Hell yeah. Thanks to you guys. No, not that. That's all you. Thanks to shitty cinema. Yeah. Thanks to Hollywood and the access media for creating this giant void in truth and authenticity that where an idiot like me can have a show with a million subs, which is insane. It hasn't even really set in yet.

So you're killing it. You're literally slaying it, watching your numbers, especially during this. And then you're very big on, you're like, yo, this is dope because of them. You were sold. The reason the, the, the little sphere we're in this little corner of YouTube exists is because, well, you know, us nerds, we would go to those stupid nerd websites like CBR and,

bleeding cool for comic books or screen rant. And like we get legit news at one point, like years ago, but then 2016 happened and like Hollywood completely changed overnight. And then all of a sudden like the colliders of the world, which is on YouTube just got overtly political and then started attacking fans. And once you started attacking fans, the, the,

They were done. They just didn't know it. They still don't know it at some point. And the fans... It's not good because you hate women. Not because it's not good, but because you hate X group. Tell the fans what they are doing wrong. That always... Fuck you all. Works every fucking time. And they move the goalposts, right? First, you didn't understand it. First, you don't understand it. The new one is media illiteracy. You don't understand how good The Last Jedi was. No, we understand that it sucked.

And then it was Star Wars was always political. It was always woke, which it wasn't. And now it's just like, well, you're just a bigot, you know, and it just rotates through those cycle. It's a cycle of retardation that we have to deal with all the time.

I love the coping phase. You missed the last part. The coping phase where it's, the Marvels did terrible in the box office. Why that's a good thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Those articles are my favorite. And it's a good thing is my favorite. And I love flipping all, using their language against them is brilliant. Like the latest one right now is with Joker 2, which we're going to talk about. I can't. Brandon actually, so I did not know this. Brandon brought it up before you got there.

at breakfast this morning, he was like, I got questions like pertaining to the Joker too. I didn't know it was out already. And he was like showing the, there's a fan screening that was Monday at time of recording. So, um, they actually, and I like, but Warner brothers does this. They, they,

They do fan screenings before media screenings, so the fans can buy tickets to go see IMAX. Unfortunately, they released the movie, and it sucked. Unfortunately, they released the movie. Yes. If they had not released it, it would have been better. But the people who did have access and reviews, what we're hearing from the Hollywood reporters is, oh, this was a troll of the fans. It was the troll of the incels. And I don't know if you guys remember, five years ago when The Joker came out,

There was a bunch of media leading up to it saying it was going to cause incel violence to the point where there were metal detectors. Yeah, there were metal detectors. And what's funny is like I saw it in New York at the time and I walked through a metal detector. What was funny is the actual violence that happened during that time was in a Frozen 2 movie. Yeah.

so it doesn't cause any incel violence at all so it and it and you want to talk about media literacy if you watch the movie it's not about incels at all and an argument can be made it was uh like pre remember this came out a few months before the summer of love so there's even some antifa elements in it right that's not everything i agree with politically but it's a good movie what's funny is five five months later

there was actual violence that the media was calling mostly peaceful. So they were trying to gaslight, they wanted to will that into existence. So-

It almost feels like the director, Todd Phillips, who I like, was apologetic for that first movie because of that reaction. And holy shit. I love Todd Phillips as a director. Like, The Hangover, War Dogs. Like, this guy's done a lot of cool stuff. Joker. Like, usually I like his shit. But I was shocked because, again, I didn't know anybody had seen the movie yet. I didn't even know it was coming out. But I just saw on IMDb it was at, like, a 5.9 and falling rating.

For the new Joker. For the new Joker. The old Joker was at like an 8.4. Which, like, the old Joker, if you watch it, that is, it's a great change from, they tried something new, Todd Phillips did, and it worked. Like, for that take on Joker, you're like, holy shit, okay, this is really, really dope. Joaquin Phoenix, amazing actor. You get to see what he can do, and then you see how dark they went with it, with the subway scene, or the live talk show whole scene. You're like, yep.

Yeah, it was a slow... Like, nobody wants a Joker origin. He's never supposed to have an origin. I didn't know I wanted the movie, but when you see the slow burn, and it actually leads to this really open-ended ending, which is, was it all in his head? Was half of it in his head? What's going on? You see the transformation in the Joker, and it was supposed to be a one-off and something you can debate till the end of time. Not anymore. If you go watch this movie, it...

completely fucks up the first one. Like I, when I got home, I almost tossed my steelbook Blu-ray in the trash. I'm like, I'm never watching this movie again. Como estas, bitches? We should have a shot of vodka and beans. Why are you here? When your boy brings the boys energy. Why can you swallow that and not the egg? Right, dude? That tastes like what factory tortillas smell like. Everyone get out of here right now. Go, he's not kidding. Hard cut. That sounds fucking gross. I have a pretty good idea of how this is gonna go. Welcome to my show. Welcome back to Let Him Cook.

Without spoilers, can you say like, hey, this was like... So Brandon, this morning you said it was like a musical. Yes. Yeah, yeah. It's a musical with Lady Gaga, which at first when I saw that, I was like, wow, that's bold. I'm holding out. I have faith. I like the director. I'm willing to give it a shot. Now I'm hearing all this shit and I'm like, I'm not even confident I'm going to go see it. Yeah. Even like...

I think the audience and the critics are in a rare agreement on this one, not for the reasons why, but they both pretty much think it sucks. And I saw it and it sucks. And I respect what he was trying to do, but the musical bits are the worst part in it. They, they stop,

It feels like the story is going somewhere. Well, the music doesn't even fit to what's going on in the scene. Usually a musical tells the story. It's just we're going to sing some oldies in the middle of the scene to pad some time. I don't know. And I can't tell you the difference. There's different style of singing. There's actual singing. And then there's this like mumbly music.

It's like a normal person singing a song. Like, singing a song. It's like, that's what it is. It's freaking terrible. It's me trying to sing. I think it's a troll. I don't know if it's a troll of the audience. I don't know if it's a troll of Warner Brothers that was trolling the film. But this one cost $200 million. Jeez. The other one cost $55 million. And then they went to Lady Gaga. Yes. Fair. And Joaquin Phoenix. They're trolling the investors. Yes. Yes.

Whatever. They're not going to be trolling the box office because the tracking is horrible for it. So I think it's going to flop. You think they like him doing the dancing scene down the stairs in the first one? They're like, we should make a whole movie of this. Maybe. Oh, I hate Cody. Oh, I hate that that's probably what happened. They're like, look at all the memes that came from him. Because everyone loved that scene. The little version of him. Oh, this will make it viral.

I forgot about the little Joker meme. That was pretty good. I guarantee that's what happened. Cody, yep, that's exactly what happened. It's hard to say. Hollywood's blend of retardation and incompetence is unbelievable. Being in charge of a lot of money, by the way. What was the... Mobius is the perfect example. They took that meme...

Morbius? Yeah. Morbius. Morbius. Yeah. Morbius. It's Morbentime. It's Morbentime. Yeah. That was so fucking funny. A meme. And then Hollywood, in their infinite wisdom, were like, oh, we need to relaunch this because it's taking off. And then they made like 10 grand, I think. I don't know about 10 grand, but they didn't make much. They lost money re-releasing it. That was the Hollywood version of the fucking AMC...

Stock troll is what that was. Yeah. I just like Hollywood bought in. They're like, bro, it's taken off. We need to put this back in the theaters. They want it. And then it's like, well, while they were writing the new Joker, was that not during the writer's strike while they were writing that? I think so. So they were pulling from the bottom of the barrel. I mean, most everything we're seeing was either around that time. I don't know for sure, but, um,

Todd Phillips said he didn't want to make a sequel forever. And they just backed up enough of the Brinks truck with enough money where he's like, they suffered from success where it did so fucking well in the box office. He's like, all right, I didn't want to make one, but 20 million is 20 million. And that's how much Joaquin Phoenix made. I think Lady Gaga made a 12 million.

And they're going to lose tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions. I'd make Passion of Christ 3 if you offered me $20 million. I'm going to figure out how to make this script happen. You know, fucking Jesus coming in like T-1000. Yeah. I mean, it could be German Day. I mean, we could do it. Right? Schindler's List 2. Yep, $20 million. I'll do it. Yeah.

I'm a find-a-way dog. He's going to kick off the width right just to make a documentary about it. Everyone will find a way to make that happen. Lady Gaga's your star? Yeah, no, it's like, but... But Schindler's this too. No, Schindler has to be a black lesbian. Like a space witch? Yes. Like a real hero. A real hero. And...

A real human being. Yeah. I think this is more offensive. I don't know why. It just feels more offensive. I love how he's like, who's a Jew? I don't know. Lady Gaga. I wasn't even thinking about that. I was like, goddamn, Kevin. You're like, Lady Gaga could still be in Schindler's List too? I'm like, shit, dude. Like, fuck. Okay, this works.

Oh, you've been like killing it with everything going on, especially with the content world. Cause now we have a Lord of the ring. I will not say Lord. Yeah. Rings of power. Rings of power. Sorry for, sorry. It's all right. Tolkien.

Jesus. Watching the last, as you said, it's like this. Have you guys watched the last episode? Just watching the battle sequence? I haven't seen any of them. I refuse. I haven't even tried to watch it because his video is bubble blind timeline. And I'm like, I'm not watching it. I'm not watching it. You and critical drinker. Tell me what to watch.

Oh, well, thanks. Yeah. They try to save people time. It's part of our service, you know, of watching bad TV. But yeah, nobody's watching this. It lost like 60% of its audience. If you want a good reference, two episodes of unsub does more viewership than the entire series right now.

It's like 900,000. It was at 900,000 for the premiere over five days. And I'm sure you guys could eclipse that easily. Okay. The budget. The budget was insane. What was the budget? A billion dollars. Holy fuck. Billion dollars.

This is a billion dollars. And they just had their worst episode. For season two? It's total. Okay. God, I was going to say. So it was like $465 million for season one. And then they moved from New Zealand to the UK, which cost them money. And then they had to rebuild a special studio just for it. So yeah, it's well over a billion. Because I know they had to buy the rights from the Tolkien family. They did. And it's just some of the rights. It's the appendices.

uh at the end of lord of the rings basically at the end of return of the king uh they can like use some stuff from the books it was the they they didn't they ended up cheaping out on these what is it the silver million yeah they couldn't get that they they could have uh and they didn't for some reason and then they hired a lord of the ring ed tolkien expert and then they fired a historian sorry and then they fired historian because he was arguing it's like hey that

It's just like the Henry Cavill Witcher thing. Yeah. Like, hey, this is trash. Exactly. This not work. Orcs and elves wouldn't have a... The orcs and the elves come together in a battle and have a talk-off. They parlay. They do a... It's fucking insane.

It's like angels and demons sitting down and, you know, during the battle, you know, during revelations and like having some tea. It's like it makes no sense. But it's without getting too deep in the lore. The last episode was the biggest betrayal because and I don't care what their fucking rationalization is for it. They had Galadriel making out with Elrond, her future son in law.

All right. Which is going to make dinner at Lothlorien and, you know, and Rivendell like fucking like really uncomfortable. And it's a long kiss. So they tried to explain, no, he was just passing or something. It wasn't a romantic. It was a romantic kiss. And that's I can't even think of an analogy that fits.

It'd be like, uh, like star Wars episode four, having a brother sister kissing. Yeah. But at least George Lucas, like at the time they weren't brother and sister and he changed his mind later. This is like having the Virgin Mary make out with Satan.

I think that's the best analogy for it. It makes, you know, well, that would be of her shipping Sauron. Sorry, I'm getting mixed up. But it's fucking ridiculous. And it got the fandom all pissed off. And it was just like the, it was the worst offenses against, worst offense I've seen against lore and all the shit. And all the Acolyte and Star Wars and Doctor Who and Star Trek and everything I've seen.

scene that was the single worst thing thankfully nobody's watching it so it's not in the zeitgeist as much as like the acolyte was that was the big one for me because like i i thank god i never fucking watched it but the idea of immaculate conception through the force it's like okay cool so the skywalker saga means nothing the only thing that made anakin skywalker special special in any way shape or form it's like other than just being a slave boy that was bought by a 40 year old jedi which is kind of weird

Well, that's what they try to do. That's why they... You came back from that mission and you bought a child. You're just filling him up. What's up? You good at speed racing, dog? Uh-huh. Yes! Thankfully, he died. Um...

You just made Darth Maul the good guy. He's just saving fucking Anakin from trauma. That old man just bought that kid. Well, by the time Disney's done, Palpatine is the good guy. I mean, like, did you see The Rise of Skywalker? You know, like, I agree. Yeah, that was, the acolyte was something else because I think it was whatever last vestiges of Star Wars fans that were holding out hope.

I think that was like over the, I don't know why that was over the line. There's so many other great examples, but the acolyte was so predictably bad. And that the power of one, the power to that, that which scene went so fricking viral. I couldn't believe it. You know, I,

Mike, if you were just taking clips out of the show at the time on Twitter. Explain to Cody what this is. Oh, you have no idea. Let's set this up. Like I said, I started to like, I thought about watching it and then I would just go to your thumbnails and I would watch a couple, like a couple of your videos. I was like, I'm not watching this shit now. I watched that. That came across my Twitter, that scene. And I thought it was actually, no, no, it was again, Critical Drinker. I saw the little clip that he put in his video. I'm like that, that's not edited.

No. That's somebody's final send? Final draft? Yes. What's the witch scene? Okay. Okay, so just like with Galadriel making out with Elrond, these scenes make it past, I can, hundreds of people?

I mean, that might be a high estimate, but we're talking about agents, executives, executive producers, script supervisors, line producers, everything. So let's just say 80 people. It makes it past 80 people going, I have no problem with that. You know, that's why in Wonder Woman 84, Patty Jenkins wrote Wonder Woman, dude, we won't get into that. That got past. Oh, that is true. That did happen. That did happen. Yeah.

Oh, I forgot. Yeah. Caladriel and Elrond making out, made it past a lot of people. So this witch scene where, yes, the witches, the power of many can immaculately conceive identical twins who as kids aren't identical at all. They look like they have different fathers. They might probably do. And then they do this...

communist lesbian space witch uh singing that they were proud of they even brought the the composer of the song and when we clipped this out so it was just a it was basically an initiation for these two uh twins that were uh conceived by whatever it's not called the force it's called the thread am I confusing you yet I'm confused

And they were going to be initiated into this group of witches. A coven. Yes. But it's basically the Force midichlorian IVF. Yes. Without mentioning them. Again, it's called the Thread, which you don't want to get too on the nose with lesbian space witches, Thread. I mean, there were...

Do you ever see the poster for the Acolyte? The first poster? It was mean to hell. So it was a lightsaber hilt with blood coming out of it. And you can imagine what the hell they mean. They made it like racetracks. They had a squirrel scraping its ass. Because it was a scrape of blood. So it looked like...

Skin marks. So they're like, it got memed to hell. So yeah. So they initiate these two girls and they do this fucking song and I clipped it out and other people did too. If you clipped out anything from this show, it was getting millions of impressions on X. You were getting about a million to two million views per

video. Yeah, during that entire Accolade series. Yeah. That was a great time for me. That was a good month. Hashtag renew the Accolade. I want it more than anybody. Well, the thing was, it was such a memeable show because it was so fucking bad. For one, you had a man with Stenberg

who, by the way, privileged child actress, daughter of millionaires, who made a diss track against fans after that third episode. I saw that. Yeah. Fuck. Have you seen the diss track?

No, I tried not to click on it. It's laughably bad. The main actress made a diss thread because the series wasn't... People were like, this fucking sucks. Also, your acting is absolutely horrendous. You have no emotional range. She made a diss track to make fun of the fans of Star Wars. And all of her co-workers were like, yes, queen.

They were all about it. Was there a thread ever in any of the lore? No, they just made that shit up. The dozens of novels that Star Wars has had. Hundreds. Hundreds of novels. Nope. No. There's been space witches, but there hasn't been a thread. Now, the space witches come from the outer... Extended universe?

Well, from the extended universe, but from outside the galaxy. And there's some inside the galaxy, right? Depending on the book. And I haven't read every book, but there's people who know it far better than I do. Don't worry, don't let us know in the comments. They will, and I love you for it. But no, they made up this coven of lesbian communist space witches. And I say communist because that's what they were. It was just a freaking communist theme. They needed no men. They...

just made some girls and played by a manless Denver. As I said, she, she was so great in a role. She played two different roles exactly the same way, like brilliant acting.

And yeah, she got pissed. So she made a diss track against fans that got memed to hell. And like the backlash was dying down until she did that. And it just, it went to the stratosphere after that. It was, it was crazy. It's everyone else's fault though. Yes. Oh, it's the fans. It's always the fans fault when it comes to Disney. That's, and that kind of marketing comes straight from the top. Are you ready, babe? Let's bring out big daddy. Well, bad idea.

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uh, afterwards and, uh, people who worked on the show who currently worked on the show and, um, fed me all kinds of shit. Oh, like behind the scenes, they're like, dude, this is so bad. What were they saying? Yeah. The stuff I can't, I made a video called, uh, the rings of power, the making of a disaster came out a couple of years ago, but, um, they, uh, can I guess real quick if, uh,

Again, this is Eli separated from Holly for 10 years, better of 10 years. I think eight years. Chase, Chase knows he just came from the level of insanity. Just guessing on this. You will see, uh,

First off, you cannot like it is so hit with the DEI and then they will rewrite shit to it doesn't matter what the mass audience wants. It's like, how do we cater to a specific audience? I think the key word is new audiences.

The modern audience that doesn't exist. And then it is catered around that. It is how everyone's hired, how everything has to be handled on set. It is a multi-layered problem and it doesn't get better any which way. And then if you're outside of that, you will get pushback.

Like if you voice a reason like Henry Cal for the Witcher, like, Hey, Hey, this, this is not what, this isn't how this would go. What the fuck's going on? And then immediate pushback. That's probably what happened the entire time or what you heard. What did they say? Yes. So every layer they put on, there's so much more now post-strike post COVID like kills creativity. So what I was told was,

by somebody at the time very, very high up was that the marketing that they started the Rings of Power with that Disney's perfected because it does relate to the acolyte came straight from the top which was go after the fans because when Rings of Power started casting black female dwarves

after telling us they're going to honor the lore, people were just going, excuse me, there were no black dwarves. They dwell in mountains. Tolkien never explained what female dwarves look like, right? Other than beards. That's it. Which they removed from the... Once...

Amazon came out and Deesa didn't have a beard. They actually removed it from the Tolkien gateway, which is like their Wikipedia. They removed it. You think they would have won women with beards on there? Well, they did it now. So there was a lot of fronting for it, but like the marketing came from the top.

Mitch means it came from Jennifer Salke, which means it comes from Kathleen Kennedy. And a lot of this is used through three party, third party companies. It's not used all the time. There's plenty of people out there who who are who just truly support the acolyte who can sound pretty loud on Twitter. Same with the rings of power. But there's also an argument to be made.

Wouldn't it be in the company's best interest to hire a third party company for plausible deniability to drum up what looks like interest? It's toxic positivity is the term now, but drop up, drum up a false interest in something where it's easy, like on, on X Twitter. And it makes sense because that's the shit they accused us of back in the day when it's just bots.

You're just troll bots. Russian bots back in those days. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? I'm not going to pay money for somebody to downvote Captain Marvel. I'll just say it sucks. I don't care if people like it. You're allowed to like shit that I don't like. That's fine. You should not have a different opinion. Not to get too conspiratorial, but wouldn't it make sense for a giant corporation that pumped $200 million into something to maybe drum up some interest where they know there is none and they knew...

they knew at Amazon they were already in trouble with the rings of power you know what it reminds me of like genuinely like that marketing strategy it reminds me of like the book trust me I'm lying by Ryan Holiday where they would purposely they put up a poster like I think it was like I hope they serve beer in hell it's like objectively I think a trash movie if you look at IMDB but he was part of the marketing campaign and what they do is they put up a billboard in LA and then deface their own billboard so it would show up in news articles and shit like that so there's all of a sudden conversation started about it so like

you are putting out garbage so that they will throw shit at it and you can throw shit back and all of a sudden there's discourse. There's actual discourse where there shouldn't be.

And there's still, I guess, a thought amongst the corporations that any press is good press. Any discourse is good discourse. Well, with the Rings of Power in particular and Acolyte, the Rings of Power first season was far more in the zeitgeist. And because the Tolkien fandom was like, fuck no. And that was like 1.8 million viewership first week. Yeah, yeah. And then it went down to 900. Well, they claimed like 25 million people watched it worldwide.

uh but by the end it lost 63 of its audience because you lift your trigger the do you find these people yeah i don't know where they find them either but like the the comment sections and that's where right around where youtube had it was because of the white house by the way but um and maybe disney but they got rid of their dislike button and then they started deleting comments were like this thing sucks so people got smart

And they just started saying, oh, my favorite part is when Gandalf said, it's Morbid time. You know, they just started trolling the fucking... And it's been great. And they did it with Acolyte, too. Gandalf saying, it's Morbid time. It...

And then he Gandalf all over the place. If you want to have a good laugh, go to the Rings of Power season one or Acolyte comment sections on YouTube. It's fucking hilarious. Like people got so creative with that. It's so good. And it was amazing trolling and they can't stop it. So you can't, they were just automatically deleting certain keywords. So they're just, all right, well, we'll just roll into it and we'll fucking clown you to your face. We don't have to say it sucks.

And that's better, you know, because mockery works. And it led to the Acolyte getting publicly canceled, right? That should be your next t-shirt. Mockery works. It does. That's a real game. Mockery works. It does. Make somebody feel foolish. That's the greatest. By putting a mirror up to their face. Like, I'm going to use your language against you.

And I'm just going to like, these are the things you're telling me. I'm not making anything up. I am just reflecting back what you have told me that you have prioritized identity politics. You use terms like white passing. I was talking about it in a stream earlier today. Pedro Pascal gets cast in everything because he's white passing. That is somebody I heard from Marvel. That's why he was cast as Reed Richards. Yeah.

His first name is fucking Pedro. Yeah. Wait, what's white passing? What's white passing? You're white passing, Eli. This is a term where we can put somebody in that's diverse, but they can still pass as a white guy by replacing a white character. This is how fucking insane they've gotten, right? And they're the ones that...

I mean, they brought back and the media brought back person of color. They're the ones who call people marginalized all the time. These, what we were talking about earlier, marginalized people don't know how to use apps. They don't know how to use the phone. They don't know how to use computer. They can listen to how that fucking sounds. - Me and Brandon are just finding out about YouTube.

We thankfully have very strong white leaders. Yeah, exactly. I was able to teach them. That guy in this. Yeah. You're part Mexican. You're part Mexican. You could do more than clean my pool, you know? No, I can't. Yeah. Eli and Brandon came along. I was like, guys, there's this podcast thing. I don't know. You're not going to understand it at first. I'll lead you through it. There's this YouTube thing you guys can get into. And they're like, see?

It's called an app, which is short for application. How do we know the YouTube? How do we use the YouTube? How much space is it? $50? I can't show. I can't show. I wrote your YouTube. Brandon power washed it. I can't show my ID to vote because obviously I'm too marginalized to ever figure out how to get a driver's license.

And there's a bunch of dumb, woke, mostly women, white women. And it's in Hollywood. I think this is woke, woke, because apparently it does set up. Wait, does it set off the YouTubes? I don't think only in titles, right? I think in titles now. That's new.

We actually got confirmation of that. If you ever want to know how much back end goes into YouTube videos, it is a lot more than your average person. Like words, searches, what even we say during the podcast. That's why we have Pepperbox. Can I actually say one of my favorites that I've ever figured out, had to figure out about the YouTube algorithm of things you can and cannot say in titles. The N-word?

Definitely can't. Oh. Well, I mean, you could if you want. Well, hard R. That's okay, buddy. Yeah. One day. One day. Cody floating. I just can't figure out who's in Paris.

I'm calling Tyler, the creator. Who's in Paris, man? Who's in Paris? Somebody's got to tell me. No, it was, I was doing a video. He's like, uh, uh, uh. I'll turn white for this conversation. It was a video about a guy who had done a, to troll the ATF, he had replaced his arm brace with a fleshlight.

And basically had written an approval letter to the ATF, basically asking for clarification on it. And he had an attorney actually draft up the letter. And I did a whole video basically on it, and the ATF had to reply. What was their response? I can't remember. Basically, they were like, we're not going to comment on that, basically. Because he was just like, I know you said I can't shoulder it, but what if it's attached to another appendage? And that was his whole premise behind it.

But his picture was really high. Like a picatinny mouth. Oh, he had a picture. The optics like up here, you're like, yeah. He had a picture of a flashlight shoved through a sig brace. Respect. I mean, like I respect the troll. He actually paid an attorney to do it. The attorney reached out later. He's like, yeah, that was the weirdest thing I ever had to write. But the title for that, I found out that YouTube will flag adult toy on titles, but it will not flag adult.

fleshlight which for me is objectively worse that's way more descriptive but because it's a brand the ai there the algorithm doesn't catch it so i flat out ran with fleshlight and it stayed monetized for a few weeks that's crazy yeah it's hard to figure it out do we like cody has probably the heart well between i always think it's like yeah cody has the hardest version of

the back end of YouTube. If we can go into it really quickly, the amount of work and then understanding the algorithm, but also keywords and what fucks you. Like, and when it...

When the word f*** you is said, it is your video just dies instantly. So Cody's working with like, hey, I have this. I have to put duck quacks in everything. The quacks of justice. Yeah, it's like quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. And it's just blurry. Please no. Quack. And it still gets demonetized, right? I have a family. Quack, quack. Yeah.

It's demonetized. So Cody does a video and then it's, you made $0 for that. That is like us going to your workplace. You work for a day. You say one word that somebody didn't like. And now your paycheck for that day is deleted permanently. Yeah. Like what's,

It's just really fucking aggravating, especially with what they're doing with age restriction now. Yeah, man. It's fucking wild. It's been weaponized. Yeah, it really has, man. And it sucks, like you said, using one word and then suddenly you didn't make any money for a video that you worked an entire day on. Oh, and they have the capability, I know this for a fact, to pinpoint it and be like a copyright claim where they go cut out this little five-second bit. Yeah. They can do that. Yeah.

They purposefully don't do that, though. So they'll take a five-second bit, like if you use something that might have been popular, I don't know, 10 years ago, and then they'll take your money for the entire video out of a 10-second clip, and they'll give it to MGM, they'll give it to Warner Brothers. They'll give your entire video's revenue to them because you might have used a five- or 10-second clip

Even if you spoof it, like use a ridiculous version of a song or like a shitty... The shitty flute version or whatever. Yeah, that's usually what I roll with. The shitty recorder version of it. They'll be like, no, that was our original song. And they'll take the entire revenue from your video from a five-second clip. They've gotten me for covers. How dare you? Exactly. They've gotten me for covers, though, where they're just like, oh, you're using the melody of a song that we own. Well, you just got hit with going back. And now with Gun Tubers, it's terrifying because you just got...

back your old videos just got demonetized and you're not the only one they're hitting every oh not demonetized age restriction age restricted even worse like they'll age restrict full auto stuff now and the thing that irritates me is that look if you guys want to be honest about this

I will play by your rules. It's your platform. If I want to not play by your rules, I'll create my own platform, which I did, Pepperbox. But if YouTube wants to play the game a certain way to appeal to their advertisers, I'm totally okay with that. I will play by your rules. What I cannot fucking do is create content for what your rules will be in five minutes.

No.

But you can lose your livelihood over it. Yeah, like instantly. And there is times when, like, Brandon, you're at one strike because one video. Yeah. But in hindsight, and you own that. You're like, you know what? Like, for example, the Shinzo Abe video. I'm like, all right. As soon as my YouTube rep explained to me why I got a strike for that, I'm like, all right.

That's fair. Which that video is now on Pepperbox. The only place you can see it, I think. But you own that. But that's what's scary about it is imagine your job, whatever you do, it is something that gets instated afterwards. And then immediately it's like, oh, your job's gone, period. And you cannot do it again. What I hate, though, is like having conversations directly with you. OK, so I love being able to have conversations directly with YouTube. I'm glad that they're open and they're willing to communicate with us. Like that's a net positive. I'm not taking that away from them.

What I hate is how smug some of their people are when they say like, oh no, no, no, no, we're not taking away your job. We're not taking away your ability to make money. All we're saying is that if you, and we're not saying that you can't make that kind of content. We're just saying that we're just going to reserve that for an over 18 audience.

It's like, no, what you're telling me is that nobody's going to be able to fucking see it. It's going to be tanked by the algorithm. Only people that are signed in and above 18 can see it. And so you're taking away 90% of the fucking views on it and I get no money. So yes, that is what you are doing is you were telling me I will not be able to make it. We fixed the glitch, Brandon. And the same thing in the same statement, they still say this won't affect your viewership.

That's bullshit. Don't they say it? Just even demonetizing. Oh, no, you're 100% right. I'm just getting fucking aggravated. I was like, well, I'm right, right? Age restrictions, you need to be locked in. Right in your face, look. The slow pan in on that. No age-restricted video shows up unless you're logged in. And there's a surprising...

high amount of people who watch your stuff who aren't logged into YouTube. Oh, yeah. You can just go search it without logging into the app. Even if you're a 45-year-old man, you cannot watch age-restricted content unless you are logged in, have a Google account that is verified over 18. Which is all of Cody's content. Being simply demonetized kills...

Now, this is the one they claim, no, it doesn't affect it at all. That's total bullshit. I have so many examples of things going up, and then they get demonetized. It just stops. I think Cody has like the... It's like, this doesn't affect you. And Cody's viewers are like... Yeah. Well, they always say monetization doesn't affect your viewership. Bullshit. Like you said, it's videos climbing, climbing, climbing, demonetized. No money. Nope. No viewership, no money, nothing. It must be crazy for you guys right now.

It's getting worse. It's getting worse. That's why I'm glad to have alternatives. Yeah. And it's building those. It's not complaining. We still love, like we still are like, yo, YouTube has provided this amazing experience and a network and everything we get to do.

Then it's that offset. It's like, hey, do the extra work to build something. Then everyone gets to have a good time, have fun videos, not worry about censorship. You all get an amazing experience if you want to pay. You still get everyone's content. Again, that's the most important part. It wasn't everything's behind a paywall. Everyone still, we care about you guys. That's why it's like, hey, let's add additional things, which is censorship-free, blah,

For me, the frustration goes beyond that because I think, you know, firearm content is just important to have period. And like for, for me, I do like firearm stuff. I do like safety instructional shit. I do a lot of like firearm safety, how things work, like things that I think are important, especially with, with culture war stuff. I feel like that's extremely important to have that out there and to reach a

new and bigger audiences you you do you basically Disprove a lot of the disinformation about police shootings and different things like that and you give a refined perspective I think there's a huge place for that. That's when YouTube is important. Yeah, my thing is like it's not just about the fucking money I've made a lot of money. That's fine. It's not about that for me anymore It's like I feel like okay could I fuck off to another platform where I get? Like 5% of the viewership and still make as much money sure but like I

YouTube is where the popular conversation is. And if we're not reaching that next generation, we are fucked. Like we need to have our voice heard on a,

On the open platform of discourse. That's why I love Cody's content. Cody's content is doing a service to everyone. Because you still point out, like, even if it's a bad shooting where you're like, hey, this dude's in the wrong. The police officer's in the wrong. You still cover that. And then you're like, hey, I'm fucking tired of this. This is what makes the good ones look bad. It's not like you're picking and choosing. You're like, you cover both sides. And I think that's where a lot of people don't understand is you're not choosing a side. You're like...

You want to do the best and you want to present that information without all the hoopla and the stories behind it. Cody, here's the stories that, again, if you don't know this, Cody reaches out to the precincts. You get all the information. You get the footage. And then you break it down from a police officer's perspective and somebody that just cares about like, hey, as a whole, I care about everyone. America first. I want everyone to be like, how do we...

move ahead and you do that and then people still get that gets restricted because violence or narrative I censor my shit as much as the news does that you watch on public TV probably more so probably yeah exactly I just found out you did cop content I thought it was just duck sounds yeah yeah I censor it I can't even play gunshots anymore on YouTube that's where the duck comes from the quack of justice it's ridiculous I'm trying to

Like, I'm not saying like, Hey, every police officer is a great person. No, I'm saying like, there should be more training. Maybe not defund them. Maybe give them a little bit more money so that they can train and not shoot people more. And it's like, no, you bootlicker piece of shit. You love every cop you love when they shoot the black people. Don't you? It's like, no, I've never fucking said that, man.

No, and the perspective is Cody's just like racist as his best friends and business partners are like Mexicans. Mexicans. Your partner as a cop was chocolate. Chocolate, yeah. He lived with, that was your roommate. And like, yeah, that's one of your homies too. And it's like old fucking racist piece of shit. Did you have to use the H word on that? Really? Which one? Homos?

There's so many to choose from. And that's why it's like Cody as a, and it's, it's crazy from the outside perspective, watching this narrative that gets built for Cody, even Brandon, like Brandon is a alt right person. And you're like streamist. I was like, yeah, he's a racist. I was like,

I didn't know that, Brandon. You know, I made that joke from the very beginning of my campaign when I first kicked that off. That was what I said before any of this fucking happened. I'm like, man, I just can't wait to find out all the things I didn't know about myself. And goddamn, did I find out some things. Wow, I don't like the Jews. Holy shit. I didn't know that. Oh, no, that was the fun part. Like, if you're on Twitter, it's like, I either hate Jews or I fucking love them.

Like I'm either sold out to them or I hate them. Both are apparently it's like, what is it? Not mutually exclusive, man. God, what is the principle? Help me on this. The cat.

That was Schrodinger's stat. When Angie Seventhis came out, I got concerned. No, okay, that was what it was. It was racist shit with the Jews, Connor. It was times like Schrodinger. How did you get that, Connor? How did you get that? That's what it was during my campaign. It was Schrodinger's Jew. I was like...

I either hate them or love them depending on who you fucking ask on the internet. There's so many jokes there. Never mind. Nah, go for it. I already put myself out there.

I just like you're like Connor and Connor's like Schrodinger I'm like Pavlov's dog fucking the thing with the cat you're like yeah sorry for the unintentional collateral but

That's going to be the new thing on the podcast. Schrodinger's Jew. Yeah, everyone's going through all those things. And it's crazy to see. I'm still surprised by...

The podcast gets a pretty, like, the only hiccup we get, it's like, they're political. Fuck, we don't. We've never, like, literally touched base on politics. Speaking of which, what do you think about the Israel situation right now? Son of a bitch. Oh, because I don't even start right now. Don't you even start. I go from we're not political to be like, well.

That there is the joke. I never talked about any of this shit during my campaign either. We never talked issues on here because it's not the time and place. No. We're just bros hanging out. We're having fun. And I think that's it. It's breaking that normalcy that everyone's like, oh, you turn on the internet and you're like, God damn it. Because everyone starts to go towards that. And you're like, I just wanted to hang out with the bros, watch them get drunk or talk about fucking...

Star Wars. Anything. Gun builds. Whatever we're doing next for content. That's what people are happy. Or just laughing at the word retard. We love that one. Thank God that's come back. Yeah, retarded space lesbians. Can we get back to that real quick? Sure. We've completely... I feel like the internet has retaken retard. Oh, yes. We love that word. It's a strong word. It's a strong word. Retard is the hill I'll die on. Yeah. I'm not letting go of that one. I've let go of too much.

No, far too much. And it's...

It's healing. And yeah, once we get some more gamer words back, we'll know we're a proper society again. Chase is doing timestamps right now. He's like, remove. He's like, god damn it, guys. I've told you to stop doing this. When Chase is in the room when we're recording, I always just see the meme of stress 99%. Chase is killing. By the way, bro. Just fantastic. Transcript. That's a great way to do that, by the way. If you want to take those things out, just run it through the transcript.

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because we got so used to something. As you said, though, you're like, the story's just good. It's nothing crazy. Yeah, Deadpool 1. Wolverine. Wolverine, Deadpool? Yeah. Your take is it's different from the norm where it's like, because it's either hated or loved, but you were like, hey, the story, if it wasn't

in this time period it would just been a mediocre like or above it would have been good yeah if it wasn't if we weren't like swimming through like a sea of sewage for entertainment um and it came out like a few years ago i don't think it would have the impact that it did now it was a complete reversal so everything matters in context the first two deadpool movies i think are better they have more heart you'd say two is better

Yeah, I think two is better than three. Yes, I absolutely do. Because it's more of a Deadpool story. Deadpool and Wolverine is kind of a gimmick. A gimmick that I'm used to from reading a lot of comic books. It's just throwing in a bunch of cameos. It does feel kind of hollow at times. But Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds, White Boy Summer, by the way. White Boy Summer.

that's what it was uh carried it with their charisma and it was just and we were waiting for wolverine to finally team up with deadpool and it took pure desperation for this to happen you know ryan reynolds when he did the announcement trailer was half joking like i got nothing

Well, you know, Disney had the rights to Deadpool. They could have made a sequel whenever the fuck they wanted. And they didn't. They waited five years, five or six years, five years to have it done. And they had to bring back Hugh Jackman, which shows how fucked Disney Marvel is. And, you know, they're bringing back Robert Downey Jr. now and the Russo brothers. And it's because they fucked everything up. They fucked up the easiest lay of all time.

by wanting to pretty much change out all the heroes. We have like the B and Z team. We have Captain African American coming out in February. Nobody's going to fucking watch that. Nobody cares. Oh, you don't understand. Indiana Jones is Red Hulk.

A 90-year-old fucking Indiana Jones is Red Hulk. Wait, what? Yeah, Harrison Ford. Straight up. Harrison Ford is Red Hulk. Is Red Hulk. Me and Cody have the same face. We're just like... I thought you guys were making a fucking joke. That is literally what is happening. So Captain African American is going to have Hulk villains in it. Connor. Connor's laughing, right? That's what it is. Yeah, I mean...

Steve Rogers is Captain America. Okay. Sam Wilson is Falcon. But yeah. So Harrison Ford is playing General Ross now.

Because William Hurt passed away, so they found an older dude who could die any minute. I hope Harrison Ford lives forever. So they found an older dude to play the Red Hulk. Wait, is he playing Ross? He's playing General Ross. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, General Ross is the Red Hulk. It's stupid as fuck. It was dumb in the comics, and it's going to be dumber in the movies. How old is he now? 80? 100,000 years old. I did want to go back to this, though. Did you just say...

I did want to go back to this. I had a perfect comparison for when you're saying that like why we love Deadpool versus Wolverine so much. Have you ever been out in the woods for like a week? Yeah. And then like when you come back into civilization, you have a shitty like McDonald's cheeseburger. And it's the greatest thing ever. And it's just the best thing ever. You got a great analogy. You ever been in prison for like three years? I can't say I have. So I had an omelet at Denny's. It was the best food I've ever had in my life. It was like manna from heaven. Sorry to interrupt. That's probably a much better analogy. Yeah.

considering the time frame we're talking about since there's been a good Marvel movie. Yes. But that's what it is. So it's in context of like, there's been so much shit. We finally just got something that was fun that wasn't preaching to us or trying to subvert expectations or replace a character with a chick. You know, we're talking about the Acolyte. That South Park episode that came out. Put a chick in it, make her fucking lame and gay. Put a chick in a weenie and make her fucking gay.

And I want it lame! Made an instant meme. But, you know, Acolyte being the embodiment of that South Park episode had a lot to do with what's going on. Marvel recognized it, so...

I talked to people doing this stupid show for my upstairs bedroom. It's not a basement, although it, cause we can't have basements in Texas, Texas, but it's weird that I've had so many people reach out to me anonymously. Like, Oh, I love what you do, bro, but we can't say anything or I'll get fired. You know? And it sucks. It sucks that they feel that way. Cause there's people who legit want to make good stuff in Hollywood. Most of the people are just like working class men and women who just want to make good shit.

And there are passionate about good movies and they just want to get into Hollywood. Yeah. And unfortunately that's the place that good movies aren't made anymore. And they're at the mercy of a bunch of idiots right now. And it's corporatism and it's DEI, it's self-imposed DEI. Um,

um but like marvel recognized like they saw what was going on well i say across the hall at lucasfilm like we're not going to do that anymore well we were when we were just in l.a see remember landing in lax oh you talking about the the witch thing yeah the posters for it's agatha all the way agatha all along yeah all along wait whatever they changed the name yeah we were in l.a what like three weeks ago something like that and we're like every

Corridor we went down every wall was painted with agatha agatha agatha agatha agatha like every fucking where we so every fentanyl zombie who walks around Los Angeles is gonna watch Agatha the the show made for wine moms Yeah, I've heard in this you download as soon as you download a Disney Plus then they can kill you at any of their theme parks legally legally Yeah, they probably own your soul. I mean I'd read all the fine print. I didn't meet one. Oh

No, not you. Oh, Papa Meat just did a deep dive into all the... Dude, that is one of the best episodes he's done recently because wife died, blah, blah, blah. And they paid... He was like, I just want 50 grand. And they fought back. I didn't know it was so low. Yeah, dude. 50 grand is like... That is a f***ing layup, legally speaking. Just wait till you see the stuff that you paid. Just imagine how pissed his wife would be. 50 grand, motherfucker, I died.

They paid more than 50 grand on somebody that broke an arm or something. The husband paid more than that for his car. So it's a restaurant on a Disney property, so it's not Disney proper. I think it was Reedy Creek is the controversial one that they were suing DeSantis for. Because I think it was the Irish pub. They lost their tax exemption. Yeah. So it was in Disney Springs. Yeah. So it wasn't proper Disney, but it was still Disney property.

But yeah, they used the fine print in signing up for a free Disney Plus account. That is wild. That's some fucking crazy. That's some good fucking attorneys, by the way. Well, no, I would say that attorney is probably thinking like, this is a big brain play. And then the media got it. Unreleased the biggest media scourge onto Disney possible. And then the response was like, tough shit. That's in the fine print.

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It's getting a little hot in there. A lot of the major's going off. Connor just said, hold on. No, that was... This is why APEC spent so much against me, I'm pretty sure. Money well spent. Dude, it got you out of working in f***ing Washington, man. It is one of my most hated cities in the country. Every time I have to go there, I'm just...

Most people who like, don't get me wrong. I've never been. DC has amazing history. Like if you're just going for the museums and the monuments, fucking awesome. Anywhere else. Think about basically a metropolitan downtown area, but with more crime and also on top of the normal crime, there's white collar crime everywhere. Yeah. I think Gotham city. Pretty close. Yeah. That's where Batman would be. Yeah. Remember Dave Chappelle's bit about going to DC the first time? No. No.

He's riding through there. He says his driver's taking him through. He's like, gun store, gun store, liquor store, liquor store. Where are you taking me? There's this whole all of D.C. Back in the day when you could have a gun in D.C.? Yeah. Those were the good old days, man. It's like there's a baby on the street. Now it's vape store. Back when the mayor did crack openly and got reelected. Reelected. Yeah. That is a real thing. I am not kidding. And he actually ran the city better than it's run now. Guaranteed. Yep.

I'm trying. I would trust a mayor that does it openly. I know he's not lying. He's telling us that he's doing crack. Marion Barry, right? Yeah. Yeah. Bleep the name. Actually, it was a bouncer in D.C. for a few years and was there. He told a story of when like Marion Barry and his boys were there in like a corner booth openly doing drugs. And like his guards had like pistols on the table and they were just like, fuck it. I don't get paid enough for this as the mayor.

And still I respect that more than the way it's being run now. San Francisco or whatever that retard is in charge of L.A. right now, the mayor of L.A. Oh, God.

I fucking love it. You're just like, oh, Jesus Christ. Like Willie Brown, when he was our mayor in San Francisco, the guy was a gangster. I didn't care. Like, he got shit done. He got some of the power lines buried under the streets. He got us new streetlights. It's like, all right, he's fucking everything, including Kamala Harris. But he gets shit done. He likes money. I respect that. As long as you're getting shit done. They had that whole... I forgot about the Willie Brown Kamala thing. Oh, yeah.

I've tried to remove myself from politics a little bit these days. I'm sorry, she blew him. I don't want to spread misinformation. Apparently you have no First Amendment right to misinformation, according to Tim Walz.

You can't do that. Or Gavin Newsom or anybody else. We can't make memes anymore in California. Oh, yeah. This is a new thing. We did not. I found out today. So it is making memes. When did this try to get rolled out? Making memes was a big no-no. That was like three weeks ago. Two or three weeks ago.

Brandon, did you know about this? It was something about altered images, like AI or things like that. What they were really going up against, and I think they were really pissed about, is that Elon Musk put out an altered Kamala Harris ad. Yeah, Mr. Reagan was the account who put it out, and it was a great ad, by the way. Shout out to Mr. Reagan.

But it was AI altered of Kamala's voice basically saying, we're so glad that we've raised the price of groceries and this, this, this. But it plays out. It's very obviously satirical. Yes. But it plays out like a real campaign ad. And they freak the fuck out because apparently this is the best political advertising they've ever seen.

Because the political establishment is behind. The political advertising establishment is like fucking two decades behind. I've seen that from the inside. Yeah, we got to watch it. It was insanity watching. People at ground level or even the viewer, you do not understand how shady it is until watching what they were trying to do against you. But even then, I still... I was just like...

I'm a single guy, just one lone dude. And I was winning. Yes, that's crazy. Because I was like, they spent 12 million to my like one, one and a half. And so incumbents have a 97% reelection rate, I think, in this country. I took mine to a runoff. And he won by 407 votes after being outspent over 10 to 1.

That's fucking crazy. That is out of touch. All you need is a kid from 4chan to make memes for you. Give them some gamer subs and whatever. Speed drinks or maybe some Adderall on the side. That wouldn't be legal. And you could win. You could absolutely win. The meme election started in 2016 and they're still going now. Like,

paid I saw ads again I'm at my freaking gym and I'm like Brandon Herrera doesn't like the Jews no they didn't say that for real but like it was like a dude hates veterans all day hates fucking veterans and I'm just like being on a podcast full of veterans and do military stories like literally the main driving force of the podcast and they're like he hates veterans because this two second quote

Which a veteran made him talk about. Ripped out of context, so you wouldn't know he was talking about a veteran's prevention panel. He was speaking at hours earlier. But it's such a boomer thing to do. I hate to use that term, but it's on heavy rotation on all the local San Antonio stations. Playing in my gym, nobody's

Paying attention to that shit. He pops out a meme for free on, on X Twitter and it's going to get a thousand times more engagement and probably influence. Like if you make somebody laugh, people go, he made me laugh. The crazy part is to the amount of older people that, especially I think this is partially attributed to Tucker Carlson moving over to Twitter or X, um,

The amount of older people I would see at campaign events that I'm talking or whatever. And then after we're doing Q&A, I'm just shaking hands, whatever. People that are in their like 50s and 60s.

that are like, you would never imagine like people that are not in our sphere that don't do social media for a living. You're like, these people would never be engaging on, on Twitter. And they're like, Oh, I just, I love you memeing on X. It's like, fuck me. All right. I never would have called that, but that's, it's super cool to see that aging up. It was weird watching Brandon break that cycle of, Hey, our demographic is a younger audience. And then going into restaurants and going out, like whatever we're doing. And then you have like older individuals, like 50 plus who,

But Brandon, I'm a huge fan. I'm like, yo, okay, this is new. I am not used to seeing this. I'm used to seeing Cody probably saying it's like that younger audience. Seeing you pivot into that audience was fucking wild to me. Which is also like, it kind of hurts me a little bit because like I can usually predict if somebody is over 50 and they're coming up to shake my hand in public, it's because of politics. And I get that. That's super cool. And I appreciate them, you know, being, being on my side and being supportive. That's awesome.

But I had a guy the other day that came up to shake my hand. That was probably like, I don't know, 25. Came up to shake my hand and goes, hey, man, what are you doing in San Antonio? Like, I'll take it you didn't vote. Yep.

It's your boy, Brandon. Been living here for quite a while. A little bit. So what's your next thing after Rings of Power? Because we have how many episodes left of that? One, thank God. Dude, you hate it so much. I hate it. My favorite part is, as you were saying, orcs parlayed and then orcs have families. Oh, yeah.

It is such a shit. Sensitive orcs that don't want to go to war, that they're worried about their kids at home, you know, little orc suburbs. They're taking little, you know, little. The orcs are really just victims of Israel. Yeah, they're going to. We, I got in trouble. Look at that. I have a pointed trap. I think. Chase, put up Trout's face right now. That episode, some of our thumbnails. Yeah.

He's just goose stepping out. He's just walking with his hand up at a 45 degree angle. Yeah, like little gore bag wants to play softball with human heads. But yeah, we were playing with our thumbnails for that one. And I went light, but we had like free Mordor and from the Anduin to the sea. Oh, no. Okay, so I'm glad we went the same direction. Yeah, yeah.

I went with live, laugh, lacerate. That was the safe one. But yeah, like suburban orcs. It's so fucking stupid. Everything about it is stupid. So thank God it's over. It's over after one more episode. Are you telling me they're just like us? They're just like us. Dude, this is what... And Cody, this is like no exaggeration. These are...

they have conversations about worrying about their family. Like orcs are talking. Okay. What was the last one that just happened? You pointed it out. Yeah. The last one, he's like, Hey, we can't win this battle. We need to go home. We need to retreat. Uh, you know, are you sure you want to keep fighting? It's like,

It's stupid. So orcs, they aren't clearly defined in Tolkien's legendarium. But it's believed they're a corrupt form of life that was basically Morgoth wanting to mock Eru Iluvatar. So creating his own life because he was jealous. And yeah, he just tortured Morgoth.

and men, probably. And it's a tortured form of life. There's people who say they were grown. No, they're actually...

by Morgoth, but then they, well, it's called multiply in the lore. They multiply. And I've always thought it was like little, you know, a brood of fucking orcs and the runts die off and, you know, whoever, you know, maybe out of a litter, three survive or something like that. And that's pretty much what it is. Because I'm like, I'm not a Lord of the Rings, you know, fanatic or, you know, I don't have any greater understanding of it or anything, but I always thought they were like, you're not watching.

They were like the feral pigs of that universe. Yes.

Yeah. I mean, yes, they come out like they even have that sword for the yurk. I, or that scene where it's like pulling them out. It's the fundamental problem with, with Hollywood right now is they cannot tell a heroic story because they cannot tell. And this is legit. This goes back to our earlier conversation. They don't know their morals are so fucking upside down. They don't know good for bad anymore. So they can write a movie and release it with Wonder Woman. Right.

being a dude and not realize it like what's the problem what that was have you ever seen that no so me okay Wonder Woman 84 what is a real thing that happened I thought about that in the theater I was like wait what the yeah so Wonder Woman 84 Steve Trevor returns the guy from the first movie but he's dead kind of and he and he takes a living human being's place he takes his body

takes over the guy's body. So like we're seeing Steve Trevor, but it's really that dude's body. Yeah. That dude could be gay for all we know, kind of look gay Hollywood. My chance that he was gay. Well, then it was their excuse to bring back Chris Pine is because it's a normal dude possessed by Chris or in her mind or whatever. She has sex with that dude.

Without his consent. So I'm just using your language against you. Okay. And that's, that's fucking. So he took control of somebody else. It's like ghost where it's taking. Yeah. I don't remember if it was actually him or it was just like a perception of him, but they brought back Chris. She sees him as occupying another dude's body. She, she doesn't see Chris Pine. She sees that dude. We see Chris Pine. We see Chris Pine. And she, that's worse. That is objectively worse. Yep. That's like date on a whole nother level. Yep.

So, yeah, that gets past them. So, you know, they're trying to adapt Tolkien, which is, you know, there's shades of gray in it for sure. But it's it's evil is clearly defined. Oh, yeah. There's good and there's evil. And just like Star Wars, evil and good are clearly defined. But now those lines are blurred because there can't be evil. There's only oppression. Right.

And it's just this belief system, and it doesn't work. It literally doesn't work for storytelling. You can't tell the hero's journey anymore. And that's kind of a...

tried and true uh thing that is does work for thousands of years you know the hero's journey this is like uh like what is it a saint george story or like basic basic storytelling elements like that work anymore yeah you have three arcs you have like there's a formula two stories and you can change the formulas around but you need you can't have like that weird gray area unless you're doing like a series like berserk does a good gray area yeah it's also fucking

20 years in the 30 years in the making but there's still a through line of like like Griffith Griffith is the perfect example of fucking pure evil and how they manipulate that and then yeah A Song of Ice and Fire is shades of grey all day long and it's got feminist themes in it but there's still classic

fantasy in it and a through line. It'll never finish. So I can't call it a through line, but whatever. And, and they know they can't do that anymore because a lot of people in the past, the mask came off in 2016. So a lot of people in the past who wrote Batman actually thought Batman was a fascist.

So there's a lot of people who wrote Superman who thinks Superman is a fascist. They like to use that term a lot because they learned it in university, not realizing that they work for giant corporations who are in league with the government, which is actually fascism. So that's my favorite part of that, where they're just like, we're fighting the system. It's like the system. You mean the giant mega corporations that all agree on the same fucking thing? Like you're

You're not fighting the norm if all of the corporations that you claim to hate agree with you. Yeah. Dude, if you want to read really good stuff right now because how big Japanese anime has got, right? And then you have that pushback from our side where they're like, they're sexist. Look at these big titty bitches.

And the Japanese are like, we do not care. The bigger titties are safe. We'll make titties bigger next time. And they do. God bless the Japanese. I don't think the other side's phrasing it quite that way. They're like, look at these sexists with their big titty bitches. I'm sure that's what they're saying. Not like you are. Oh, that's fucking crazy. Haven't you seen our underwear in the store?

You can buy underwear from a vending machine. Something to be said about a homogenous society, right? Socialism works in Norway for a reason. What's that about Finland, Tim Waltz? Ooh. Ooh, Eli! I'm a ghost.

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Not Joker 2. What is it about? Am I racist? That one. Am I racist? Oh, the Matt Walsh movie. Dude, apparently you're like, I've watched. It's hilarious. Dude, everyone is fucking loving this. This is one I want to watch. I think we should go as a group. I think you should. I think my favorite is when Matt Walsh goes on Instagram and Twitter and screenshots and posts the Reddit threads.

of movie theater employees that are trying to sabotage people from watching it. They're like, we purposely like, we make sure there's a glitch in the machine so people can't buy tickets or like shit like that. Movie theater employees are genuinely trying to sabotage the movie. Yep.

I'm not surprised. That's a badge of honor in my opinion. Yeah, and I think he's played it really smart. I mean, like, I've disagreed with him in the past about gaming and other things and even anime. He's got some pretty horrible takes when it comes to that. I'm curious.

I don't know if it's the troll or not, but gaming and anime. What was the tag? Basically, it's all demonic and satanic. And it could be a troll. Daily Wire. I don't know. It's those hard ones. And this is my favorite part is...

I think that's a retarded take if it's not a troll. But you're not... Everyone at this table, here's the craziest thing. It is, hey, have your own beliefs. We don't care. Just don't force it on everyone else. When you're a political... The point of it was he just basically said they're satanic. And

What we talk about in our sphere a lot is you don't understand the power of the gamer. They get a lot of shit. They're called incels. They're called all this crap. That's a lot of.

people who consider themselves gamers and fans and nerds. And yeah, it's 55 year old adults sitting in a room surrounded by fucking action figures with no shame to my game whatsoever. And you need to understand that that is a huge part of American society, uh, is pop culture. And to just go, it's just a bunch of fucking incel. It's like that one who came out on Twitter and said, gamers are the most unattractive person. It's like, well, for one, check your mole. And, uh, number two, uh,

You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what is a gamer. They have this stereotypical thing, and that's the shit nerds and gamers have had to deal with forever. But they have massive power. The lions do not concern themselves with the opinions of the fours. Exactly. So you don't have to like it. You're a four in good light. You're a four with my glasses on with 20-20 vision. Okay? So...

They have lots of power, but also it's just regular people. There is no specific gamer or nerd. That's the whole point of it. And you don't have to like the shit. You can think it's satanic. I don't give a fuck. But respect that people like it. Yeah.

Don't put out mass things like alienating something because you don't like it and you just put out a mass to hundreds of thousands of people where you're like, gaming's satanic or it's evil or this is how you corrupt children. Because I can tell you, look at the difference between each one of us and then all of us are fucking nerds at the end of the day. We might play different games, but everyone still is hardcore gaming, nerd, anime, manga, comics, like,

Me and Eli will have a detailed business conversation. And then immediately after, he'll ask me, so how far are you in Red Dead 2? I was just about to say that. Probably a chapter five. Chapter five? I am in St. Denis right now. Respect. So we're chugging along. That's a game I actually know. Massive gamer. Me, for sure. No, I've played like five games in my life. But am I racist? Red Dead's the first Red Dead I played a lot. Red Dead 2? Yeah.

I hated it in the beginning. I took a five-year break off Red Dead 2. I turned on my PS5 for the first time. I haven't played a game on it, but I hooked it up and turned it on in my home theater. Wow, can't wait to watch Joker 2. Maybe in a year I'll play a game. What I call it is my Crunchyroll machine. There you go. Because my TV can't have Crunchyroll. So I plugged it in downstairs. Really? This is now Crunchyroll. There you go. That just sounds awful. Am I racist?

is legit funny and needed. Just like What Is A Woman? This one has far more impact, at least on my sphere, because it really does peel back. You would think it goes one way. It's mostly white women, mostly white women, and some greedy black women who he pays. And he shows you how much he pays for these interviews. Some of them are like $50,000. And they don't say shit. They don't know.

Do they know? Because he is showing his perspective. He's pretty, he's pretty transparent with like, well, they don't know he's Matt Walsh. Like a one group figures it out. And this is where he comes up with his disguise. And I don't want to ruin it for you, but what he, he exposes is the DEI race grift industry, the race extortion industry that's prevalent through our school systems, our government, um,

fucking sports, corporate America, it's poisoned all of it down. - And it's not about race as much as anti-white. - It is anti-white. So there's a quote. - Celebration of diversity to the poor. - I'm gonna paraphrase the quote at the beginning from the book. Oh, what's his name? I forgot what his name was. The guy who wrote the book

uh, how to be an anti-racist. A quote from the book is what opens the film, which is the best way to fight past, um, uh,

Oh shit. What's the term he used? The best way to basically the best way to fight. He used a different word, but I can't remember cause I'm old. The best way to fight. Oh, the best way to fight past discrimination is present discrimination. Is it, I'm thinking Michael Moore off the top of my head. No, it's a black dude. Cause I remember like, I remember in a foreclosure in Fayetteville back when I was doing like work, that kind of work, I just found a Michael Moore book.

And I can't remember something about like just basically hating white people, which is funny. He's a fat white guy. If I looked like him, I'd hate white people too. Fair enough. Myself. I remember reading through it and like reading his book. Cause I just found it on the floor in a foreclosure and like, Oh, this is awful. What the fuck?

he's a retard and he objectively and yeah like he is and and he's still alive to be frank yeah with that like with that he was famous from roger me back in the 80s won awards and stuff and yeah he got this far being a complete retard but they like that's one of the the statements you said it's like the film opens with that you have a person's like hey how do you get rid of racism you've

More racism, apparently. Yes. But then he breaks down all the behind the scenes of everything where it's like, oh, hey, look, look how crazy these people are. We'll go with a dinner with him. We'll talk about him at, I mean, multiple occasions.

I didn't know he, I wasn't sure how he paid them. I, I know he was like behind the scenes. He just pretended he was his character, but then they opened up because of that. Right. Yeah. And it, it was really good at what he does. It's deadpan humor, but it's not really combative. It is. He will just ask a simple, like he'll draw him in a little bit. Um, my favorite part is, um, the woman who wrote, uh, uh,

White fragility. I'm blanking on her name now too because I'm getting old. The main girl. Yeah, the one at the end. He paid her like $15,000. The one he got to pay reparations to his producer. He fucking... Did you not know that? She literally whips out her wallet and fucking pays him money. Cash? Yes. Like, cash to pay reparations. Fucking insanity. D'Angelo...

I can't remember her name right now. It sucks getting old. But the important part is... That's right. I couldn't remember Schrodinger's Jew. Thankfully, Trout did. He's got it all.

He asked her about like, well, you know, what do I do about mansplaining? And she starts explaining it and he interrupts her and mansplains her about mansplaining. And it was fucking hilarious. That's like, and it's filled with that. And then he also goes to like a Southern town and he goes into a bar with a bunch of fucking bikers and stars and bars. And he talks to a guy who's like, yeah, my dad was a, my dad and my grandpa were in the clan. He's like,

He's all, but I'm not racist. No, he's all, none of that fell down. He's all, no, I judge a person based off their individuality, off their character. Martin Luther King said, this guy who's a son and a grandson of Klan members. So it, and then he goes to other parts. You know, he talks to an immigrant who's got like 57 grandkids. And he's like, no, I love this country. This country is awesome. MLK would be a radical, radical right winger today.

If you just look at the idea, just on his views back then, like... Based off of, like, hey, it's based off of the character. He'd be considered it. Yeah. Like, just be... Yeah, exactly. He would be considered by the left wing. They'd call him an Uncle Tom. Like, excuse me, you think we shouldn't judge people at all by the color of their skin? Just the content of the character? No, that's racism. What the hell are you talking about? That's racist now. What are you thinking about the institutionalized racism, though? Yeah. And that's what's crazy. Like, he deep dives into that. As you say, he goes into the deep south and where you would think...

you would see racism like i don't give it's i don't give a fuck about that it is the context of your character it's like hey let me see okay i don't bet there's way more everyday racism in our big cities than there is in any part of america yeah uh you go to middle america like well people don't travel anymore they just don't they don't leave the cities like i see i've saw more racism in san francisco than i ever saw anywhere what's that quote by our boy um

God dang it. Why? Huckleberry Finn. Son of a bitch.

You could just call him Jim. Mark Twain? Mark Twain, holy shit. But that is like, if you want to defeat racism, it's essentially travel. Like, go out, explore, meet others. That is how you defeat that. And that's what you see is like, oh, when you explore a lot of different areas, urban areas, suburbs, or rural, if you get away from the ideology that's mainstream and you're like, oh, these people actually have content character. Like, that's why...

The group of friends I have, I'm fucking not white. I have the best group of friends.

And no one, we don't bring up race other than jokes just because it's funny. Oh, we bring up race a lot, but it's only in the context of jokes. Yeah. Like, nobody actually thinks less of anybody. Nobody actually, like, nobody has those deep-seated resentments. No. Anywhere that, like, would make you not talk to someone. Like, that's fucking crazy to me. You want to, like, if, like, our biggest thing is, like, work hard, be successful, figure out a way to overcome obstacles. You do that, I will fuck you.

Praise you until the end of time. If you're a piece of shit, it doesn't matter what color your skin is. I don't give a fuck. Except Cody. He wants to fund the police. Listen, don't get me started on them policemen. Punch him, Brandon.

backhand he's been resisting for far too long now come on go for it it's right there you know you want to that's like you like watching this my friends get online is absolutely ridiculous on twitter or hearing that backhand it's like racist piece of i'm like who the guys that are highly successful because they just work and they do whatever like that's they they might bully on twitter

I laugh at it. That's great content to me. I'm like, hey.

Hey, pass that. You guys are working so fucking hard. That's what I appreciate from my friend. Dude, they're killing life. They're employing people. It doesn't matter. They're not racist pieces of shit. They just work hard. They might joke or they offer a different perspective on certain stuff, but it's not based off of fucking race. It's just based off how you feel. I think we're just in the death throes of that industry. It's like that one company that is basically the DEI company.

you know, barometer for video game companies that like they come in and they'll help rewrite. Oh, sweet baby ink. Yeah. Thank you. I think we talked about this last time you were on. Um, I can't remember. I think we did, but like, yeah, that was, that was exactly it. But like those, those people that just know that this is an industry that enough people care, but we need to make sure that we're not, you

you know x y and z and like it's just it's it's fading out of vogue and i don't think anybody actually genuinely gives a shit yeah so one of my our friends uh he didn't realize dei actually he just thought it was for race specifically and then when i told him it was for sex too he was like wait get the fuck out that that that sex representation too it's like yes females to males and like all that he was like

I did not know that. What the fuck? It goes way beyond race. Yeah, he did not know that. It's anti-traditional, what would be deemed as traditional. And we could do air quotes on that. But Chase, Blake out this name, was the one. He didn't know it was race-based. Or sex-based. He was like, nuh-uh. Because he works in LA. He's done the Hollywood thing. He's still there actively. He did not know that part. And once he was filled in on that, he was like,

get the fuck out. These dumb white bitches need stuff. Is that why they're making all the video game characters like frumpy and yes. Yeah. And shit like that. And they're all flopping, uh, star Wars outlaws, which has a frumpy ma'am solo that we call it is, uh, it's underperforming so much. You was Ubisoft had to go back. Like they had board meetings about this. Then there's Concord, you know, I don't play any of this, uh,

there was a, bro, $600 million, Sony 600 or 700. Uh,

I don't know. Concord, this is over $200 million. We'll just say that. Half a billion dollars. Eight years in the process. Sony releases this and they fucking pull it off the shelves in two weeks. I've never heard of it. What the fuck? $600 million. It was supposed to be a Star Wars franchise for them. Oh, because they put some rappers and shit into it too. They did so much.

$600 million. That's supposed to... $400 million, dude! And pulled it off the shelves in two weeks. This was supposed to be an ongoing series. This is like Mario or Sonic the Hedgehog. Well, I think the ultimate irony is that all the DEI industry that it has become...

is making like racism, sexism, whatever the fuck, it's making it worse. Because like for me, like if you put a gay dude in a movie, I don't care. That's not my first thought, right? But it's the radical over-representation where it's like, all right, it's this percent of the population, let's say 2%.

Versus it's 10% of TV shows or movies or whatever. It's like the only thing I'm thinking about is how it is an industry in Hollywood. And that drives me fucking crazy because I just want to... I'm not a hater. I want to enjoy. I want to enjoy games. I want to enjoy movies. I want to enjoy TV shows. If there's nothing to hate on, I'm not upset. We talked about Connor last night. I said, it's like you want to ruin Terminator 2. You want to ruin Alien Aliens. It is Sarah Connor or fucking Ripley going...

girl power during the movie. They got perfect female power, strong female character. And you're like, that is a bad ass without literally did that in dark fate. They brought Sarah Connor back to become antenatalists. They killed John Connor in the first five minutes, a young version that go back in time and kill him. And then they make Sarah Connor this bitter bitch who thinks that the only reason we carry babies is just for them. It's like, what the fuck you,

You were like the baddest ass mother on the planet. Which is so garbage. And we never thought about Sarah Connor or anything. It's like, that's a strong female. We're like, that's a badass character. They earned it. Like fucking Ripley had Alien. Sarah Connor had Terminator. They had one movie to, we saw them adapt, go through trauma, grow, become a badass. And everybody's like, cool. Dope ass character. That's awesome. No one argues. If you did a female Punisher, do that. If you just put like a female Punisher, but made it like Ripley or Sarah Connor, it's

and never talked about the female part of it. You're just like, this character went through this. And you're like, dude, female Punisher, you'd be like, okay, it's a side branch, but they don't talk about that. You could live with that. And you'd be like, you know what? That was a dope role. They fucking crushed it. - But now, because it's become such a trope to just gender swap male characters and then make the women just act like dudes, it's actually affecting things that might not be that like,

Furiosa. Like, you know, I still think it should have had Mad Max in it. I think a Mad Max movie should have Mad Max, specifically when it's called a Mad Max saga or whatever. But that being said, the movie was good. It was a good movie. But you got to see on the flip side what happened because...

everyone's so did you watch for heroes yeah yeah yeah dude it was good ass fucking movie the prequel to the new tom hardy mad max yeah but nobody watched it because nobody wanted to see it and they were just thought it was going to be more girl boss shit although it wasn't and everyone's like and it was a good movie and that's what flopped hard right now yeah and that sucks because that was a good like everyone was like

That was actually a good movie. It was actually good. I tried to save my review. It's still flopped, though. It's still a big flop. And then, you know, they're doing a Lord of the Rings War of the War. Hear him. I'm the only one who's going to care about this. This is the movie. Wait, what is that one? So it's from Warner Brothers. So let me give you a little lore on this. Rings of Power got their rights from the Tolkien estate outside of Warner Brothers, who still have the rights to distribute Lord of the Rings and part of The Hobbit, right? Yeah.

So, they can only tell a little bit of the story. Warner Brothers, recognizing that Amazon was fucking up, decided to whip their dick out and go, "Well, we'll pull from the appendices too, because we can, and we're going to do War of the Rohirrim." So when I heard it, "And we're going to do an anime," I'm like, "Fuck yeah, let's go." Then they're like, "Yeah, we're going to take an unnamed woman from the story and make her the main character." We're like, "Fuck, not again," which they're doing.

So if you see the trailer and you see a girl named Hera, she doesn't have a name Hera. She's mentioned in one sentence. And it's supposed to be the battle of what names Helms Deep, Helms Deep. That's what it's supposed to be about. Like a battle that gives...

Helm's Deep, its name. It's about Helm Hammerhand. But now it's about his daughter and not him. So I actually saw that trailer when I went to go see a movie a couple days ago. And I was going to ask you about it because I was wondering, like, what the fuck is this? Is this actual, like, Lord of the Rings lore? Because I wouldn't know. Nope. They had their chance, but it's more, like, current day bullshit. We've talked about this before. It is...

all anime shows, books, they hand you what to do to be successful. If you just copied that. Yes. We've talked about multiple times where like, if you just went like Cowboy Bebop, if they would have just been like, Oh,

This is an anime that they've got 24 episodes on. If they would have just taken the fucking anime. One for one. One for exactly one for one. Episode by episode. And just did that beautiful formula that they had going for fucking the past 30 years.

It would have been cool. And then before it came out, the actress told the fans to fuck off. That never works. That works really good. Never. What were you saying, Brian? What's a good movie that's done that? Like, what's a good example of like a movie or a TV show that has followed through? Lord of the Rings. Yeah. The Peter Jackson trilogy takes liberties, but it captures the spirit of the books. The greatest trilogy ever made. Yeah. He does his little swaps where it's like you have from...

I mean, they skip stuff. What's... The, like, all-powerful guy that... What's his name? God damn it. Why can I not...

Tom Bombadil. Tom Bombadil. They were like, okay, this doesn't add to the story. And then certain things. Now there's book fans out there who are like, fuck that. Put in Tom Bombadil. I'm with you. But like, the books are better. The books are better. But Peter Jackson's trilogy is perfect because it captures the spirit. Like there's closer adaptation. If you want to do comic book adaptation, not fantasy. Sin City is the greatest adaptation I've ever seen of anything. It's page for page, panel for panel, the comic book. And it did.

And it did so, so good. I haven't watched that in forever. You remember Sin City?

I saw it years ago. Yeah. Frank Miller. It's fricking brilliant. Really good. You know, Dune did all right. I was going to say, what do we think about Dune? Dune is the hardest thing because you have directors. That's why it took so long to come to fruition is because a lot of people are like, yo, this is fucking hard to turn into a movie script and be like where you can digest it. It is a undertaking to do that. And now they have these. Yeah.

How they're doing it's great. They're like, hey, let's build these magnificent sets. Let's have the actors. Let's see how we can fucking make this happen.

on the big screen and they, they killed it in my opinion. Yeah. I like both movies. Cody hates him. No, they don't know. Okay. They fucked up Johnny. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. She's, um, uh, Zendaya is the worst thing in it for sure. Like without a doubt. Well, they, they, they almost had the chick, uh, fucking Wednesday. Um, Oh,

Oh, yeah. I just saw. I sent that to you the other day. Jennifer Ortega. Yeah. Yeah. They were about to make her Chani. Jennifer. Even though they wrote. No, it wouldn't made it better because they wrote Chani in there is like a vindictive bitch. She's like, no, you're taking another bride. But in the movie. Yeah. In the book. Sorry. In the books.

Like, Chani stays by his side the entire time. She understands the game. Yeah, I understand you have to take the emperor's daughter on as a wife because that's going to make you rule the universe, but I'm still your lover. And they stay together, and he pushes the emperor's daughter to the side. He's like, yeah, go over there and do your fucking thing. I'm hanging out with my Chani.

But in the movie, she's like, I'm so angry. I'm going to ride off and ride a worm. I'm going to go do this worm thing now. Dude, I love... Cody's one thing. He will die on fucking Dune. Oh, boy. You get so fired up about Dune. You're like...

reads all the books, like knows the lore to a T. I don't even know the. Like the next movie is basically the last good one before like it goes off the fucking rails. Yeah. Yeah. It goes off the rails here soon. 10,000 year time jumps and shit like that. Yeah. There's there's. So the next movie that's going to come out, it's going to be like probably like a 30 year time jump. Oh really? Yeah. Yeah. I hope they bring it back. Oscar Isaac. Yeah. He just plays this same guy. They're bringing back somebody. Spoilers.

They bring back a character who's dead. Oh, yeah. There's a reason for that, though. Okay. I can't explain that. I know how they do it. Or is it? Yeah, it is. Okay. Yeah. I can name the race who does it, but I'm not going to spoil anything. Chase, you might have to do that part. Or you can just read the book that's 50 years old. Yeah.

I'll spoil the shit out of a book. Yeah, I know. It's so old. You're like, but people don't read books. Which, by the way, I don't know if you guys know Dune-inspired Star Wars. I'm just throwing that out there. Yeah, I did. A lot. Dune and then Gates. Dune, Saturday Morning Serials, Lord of the Rings, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon. Before, before, before. What's the first one? Um...

Dude. Akira Kurosawa, Toshiro Mokune. Oh, Hidden Fortress. Hidden Fortress. There we go. Yeah. That's like the old... That was a deep hole, dude. I know. I'm like, what is the oldest representation? It's like... Dude, if you want Toshiro... Akira Kurosawa, if you want to see craziness, watch that dude do movies in the 1930s, I think, to the 60s, if I remember right. Yeah.

And he was the first one to do moving camera sweeps, all that stuff. But these are like 8,000 pound rigs on tracks. This is when it's like, and they're moving everything, having everything move at the same time and action. You have all like hundreds of people moving.

Or running up and doing the actions. It is fucking crazy. Especially in black and white. It's kind of like those old, like the 10 commandments and shit where like they have a wide shot of a thousand people in the market. There's a thousand people in the market. Dude, Lawrence Arabia is fucking great. Cinematic masterpiece. Yes. Like 10 out of 10 film.

Bro, guys, you could pull that up in 4K right now because how it's filmed. And it looks better because there's a whole video on it on YouTube because how it's filmed. It looks better than any movie made today. Really? And this is like... When was that filmed? 60s. Yeah. 50s, early 60s. Yeah, like 58 or 62. It was the stock of film they used. And even like the transfer doesn't do it justice. Like it still looks better in film, but...

It's one of the best. It might be the best shot movie of all time. Dude, it is like when you see the stills from it, you think it is shot today for how high the 4K is pretty good. It is insanity. And then what's the one movie where like the drowning scene, people are actually dying?

It's one of those old films where it was... Where they ride the horses off? Ten Commandments, that's when they died, right? Yes, Ten Commandments. People died in that fucking shit. I didn't know that. I was like, that's a long way from just using real human skeletons in Poltergeist. Ten Commandments, people were dying on that during the... The flooding scene? Yeah, Noah's Ark. People are dying. That's been fighting for their lives.

Like trying to swim up. Three people drown. One had to have a leg amputated. And almost a dozen suffered broken limbs and other serious injuries. Holy shit. That's authenticity. For a silent film. Dude, what? One of the extras who survived the flood scene was allegedly John Wayne. No shit. No shit. Dude, the flood scene is amazing. And now because we're like action. You see people like...

They're like pushing people down and you see like a scramble to survive. And there's people like drowning each other to make it out of that scene. John Wayne killed three of them. What's funny is that this is like an era in policing and detective work where they're like, damn, I wonder how we put this together. And they're like, we have it on film. All right. Enough with that high tech nonsense. Yeah.

The idea of having a video of it is like, yeah, I love OG filming, but if I can, like you have the seventies version or eighties version of Dune and then the proper version. Yeah. Well, they had the eighties version. Then they had the early, early 2000, early 2000 series on sci-fi network book more, uh,

I liked it. It was fine. It was cheap, but it was fine. I did not know it was cheap. It was like a sci-fi series that they had. Sci-fi originals kind of. Yeah, sci-fi originals. Something they had out there for a while. I've never heard of this. I remember watching sci-fi originals when I was a kid. Like Minotaur the movie and shit like that where it's like B-movies, but it was so violent and gory. I was like, oh, fuck. This is awesome. They almost showed a titty in them. Yeah, the chicks were hot too. That helped. Yeah.

TV 14 titty. When those came out, I was like a full grown adult and I was still watching. We were teenagers. Brandon wasn't born yet. Them titties on CBS or whatever channel it is, TNT at that time. You're like, yeah, fuck yeah. Dude, I love that Princess Cyril on side boob, dude. It was so good when I was in high school. So highly specific. Yeah.

When DVR came out, that got paused a lot. Yeah. That TiVo, dude. Yeah. TiVo. Holy shit. So Cody's is, what is your favorite book series? Do you read, actually, that's it. We have Dune. You, I know, like Star Wars more than Lord of the Rings, correct? No, I like Lord of the Rings a lot more than Star Wars. My bad. I couldn't remember. So that's your peak. And then have you read Name of the Wind or anything?

Nope. Conan would be second. Robert E. Howard's Conan. If you want to do yourself a favor, Name of the Wind. Okay. I'll check it out. I promise you you'll read that and be like, Eli, thank you. Why hasn't it released book three yet? It's been 12 years.

Well, I like a song of ice and fire. Yeah. Yeah. I like that book series a lot too. All right. That right now is that, is that book ever coming out? Nope. Yeah. I'm saying George just put up a blog post that sounds grim. Is he dying soon? Uh, it sounds like he's kind of given up. It's like he's, he's,

Something happened with HBO with this series behind the scenes that he's pissed at him now. There's still more shows coming out, but it seems like it kind of like all the gas is out of his tank right now. Listen, he was alone in a cabin at COVID and couldn't finish. And he's been writing the book for 13 years. So, no, it's not going to finish. And there's also a bunch of like side projects and shit. Yeah, he's just distracted. Yeah.

He just needs to be honest with people and say, I can't finish it. And then fucking hire a ghostwriter. Nobody will care. I won't care. I'd rather have it finished than not finished at all. As a Patrick Roth is for a name of the wind. It sucks. Cause those he's only done two books and then a side story, but those two books, his first book he released in 2008. And then it took 2012 or 13 for the second book. And we're waiting for the third book at this point, the first book,

He was a national bestseller. George R.R. Martin was like, hey, this is the best author I have ever read in my life.

Period. So he was like, Acolyte just shot through the roof. Second book, everyone praised even higher than the first book. And he was like, cool. And he just is like, I was almost done. And then I hated it. So I deleted it. And I restarted from the beginning. Wow. We're 12 years into book three and it's the final. And everyone's like, well, just finish the fucking series. How old is he?

He's not in his 70s. He's 45, maybe 50. Okay, he's good. Read the book series, though. Everyone will swear by that series as some of the greatest writing you'll ever see. And you read it, and you're like, holy fuck, here's 900 pages, here's 1,400 pages, and they are... If we can go back to Game of Thrones for a second, the thing that pisses me off about that book specifically is that he had...

the best case study you could ever have for an ending, period. Where the fan base reacted to a massively popular TV show. And he goes, all right, don't do that. You could literally just take your fucking pick of any of the Reddit fan fiction on the internet. Yes. And just build your book around that, around some of the more popular theories of what they wanted to happen. And you can't go wrong. I love that idea where you're like...

Delete. Delete. Okay, we're changing everything that we just seen didn't work for Game of Thrones. Who knows? He might be like a Stephen King kind of guy where he can't end a fucking book. Yep. Where he can come up with intriguing settings. You read his other work? He's not one for happy endings or good endings. He's a TV writer and I would say a lot of his stories are very Twilight Zone-ish. They have a

a morality tale. They end pretty dark. Somebody usually dies. And like, that's the ending we saw in game of Thrones season eight. That's the ending. Like brand will be king. Yeah.

Daenerys will be dead and Jon will be beyond the wall. I think those three things are absolutely going to happen. Now, how they got there completely different because half some of the people they showed are dead in the book. Some of the people are still alive. They completely there's other giant storylines. They just like the fucking zombie mom and things like that. Yeah. Lady Stoneheart is a huge. I think ladies personally, my theory is Lady Stoneheart has something to do with the resurrection of Jon and

So why people are really frustrated is a dance with dragons ends with John bleeding out at Castle Black. So it's when he gets the assassination attempt and he's just dying. That's where the book ended. We know where the show went, but with the book, he's still bleeding. Daenerys flew out a marine and she is like half naked with Drogon surrounded by Dothraki.

And like, that's where we've been sitting for 13 years waiting for something to happen. In the meantime, he's written a couple of other books, started a bunch of shows, written a bunch of blog posts, including the Giants. It's like, finish the fucking book, dude. Like, or at least tell your fans who deserve this kind of an answer. Like, I'm not going to finish.

Because, yeah, a lot of people got invested in it. So when you start a fantasy series and you go, this is going to be one of seven books, that's your promise to the fans. Then you do owe them something because they made you really fucking rich. So you at least owe them honesty. I'm not saying... You don't even owe them a time frame. No. But if you say you're going to do something and then you don't do it, that's pretty fucking aggravating. Yeah. Follow through. That's why the biggest thing, you never make a promise you can't fulfill. Yep. Oh, what? God, that's...

Imagine if he's got a gag order with HBO where he can't go against their ending.

that would be crazy i hope he didn't sign that either well maybe he changed his ending completely maybe he took notes and just scrapped the book i don't i don't know that's just a random conspiracy theory i came up with now but dude anime writers though um god dang it hunter x hunter author i forget his name so what he did he was like hey just in case i die here's the three endings or four endings that i came up with

He just, so if he died, cause anime artists die, mega artists die. Well, yeah. Cause they work themselves to death. So, and, and so he released four and he's like, Hey, this is one of the four endings just in case I die. It's like, I will fulfill that storyline to get there. Just not telling you how we get there. So just in case I die, but there's your ending. Good to go. And everyone's like, okay, cool. And then it takes a year for him to release like a few chapters. Everyone's like,

it, dude. Release more chapters. George R.R. Martin, perfect example of taking goddamn forever to release anything and you know it's going to be better than what is shoveled out for HBO. Much better. It'll be much better. Because, I mean, just everything just fell apart so fast. You have the, what are the brothers that wrote? D&D. D&D. Yeah. Dan and

Dan and Dave. Dan and Dave. Are they brothers? No, not brothers. They're sorry. That's my bad. D and D that when they've, they've said, Oh, well we want to cater towards a NFL crowd and moms. That's how we're writing the last few seasons.

And that's what they did. Spectacle. They went in the spectacle and they got away from, you asked about their faces right now. This is on camera. Them saying, yeah, they also said themes are for eighth grade book reports. And there also didn't want to do the magic. They also chose not to use Lady Stoneheart. But the reason, you know, you asked for a good adaptation. The first four seasons of Game of Thrones are great adaptation of the books. You know what that reminds me of?

that reminds me of like the conspiracy theory that i'll be damned if i don't you know somewhat believe that next year the chiefs are going to win the super bowl with uh travis kelsey still dating taylor swift they're going to propose on the field and then nine months later announce a baby which is going to cause birth rates to increase within the united states and prepare the next generation for world war iii i hope this happens because then we can document unsub as predicted future like the simpsons

I'm so goes into history. Brandon Herrera is not my theory. I just read it and I was like, it's believable at this point. It was that idea. So I see where you're coming from. It is the idea of how Jon Snow got positioned at the, the wall. So you had right before that scene, the, uh, the Dothraki and the, uh, what are the other, the hard fighters, uh,

This something lists the dickless guys will not dick. Oh, they are jealous Don't sell it. Yeah Yeah, I'm I'm sorry. So when they Johnson walks up they're just murdering people that went against the Queen At the very last John said yeah and John John's like hey, what are you doing? He's like they went against the Queen and I just fucking murdering him. He kills the Queen and they're like, oh

Let's bring him to trial. Let's bring him to justice. Yeah, let's bring him to justice. And then the people that never came from Westeros are like, we send him to the wall. They don't know what the fucking wall is. They don't know what a wall is. They have no idea what that punishment is. And they're like... Well, Tyrion basically picking the king was... I mean, he was a prisoner at that time. It was so stupid. Everything about it was stupid. Stephen King is a...

Stephen King, yeah. Cody hates, like, you ratio Stephen King so many times. I saw that. I saw you do that. I liked that tweet. He's such a fucking cunt.

He said something, you said, you wrote an orgy scene with 13-year-olds, you fucking freak, or something like that. I say that because it's the whole thing. He does it all the fucking time. And back in the 80s and 90s, it wasn't as much of an eyebrow raise as it is now, I guess. But it's like, Stephen, do we really need this underage sex scene? This is a nonfiction book about something where that didn't happen. No. I'm Stephen King. I can do anything I want.

He was better when he was coked up. Did you write the mist? I did. I'm not hating on his other work, man. I love a lot of his horror stuff, but damn, did he have to write that scene in there? That means a fiction writer sitting in his room late at night, coked up. And he thought, man, what if these kids each other? Mm hmm.

It's a great idea. What if all of these underage boys f*** this underage girl? In great detail. Ran a freight train right through her. Let's go. I... Trout, we talked about this yesterday. I did the... No, not that. Not that. Okay, let's rewind. Okay. Trout's like, bro, what are we talking about? Antisemitism. Child gangbang. Everybody wants to be terrified, right? We're stressed right now. They go together. What are we talking about?

We all have our areas of expertise. Drown. Went on a date at Stalker. And I sent a photo apparently like a week or two ago. Didn't remember that. But then I photoshopped your date and you looking at the screen going like this. The screen's here. So I was like, oh. Oh, no. And I just put fucking...

I hate when you type in gay on Google. No girls come up. It's just dudes. I was like, well, yeah, well, it's based on your previous searches. Google's not. So I'm like, first image problem. Okay, well, we're saving that. I was like, please, Savannah, do not walk up on this. I'm going to Photoshop this real fast. Send it to Trout.

Nobody ever looked through Stephen King's or Eli's browser history. No, ever. Trout and his date took four hours to realize what was on the screen. Because I always feel if you do proper Photoshop, they don't know what is Photoshopped. Wait, he's pulling it up right now. I got to see this now. Yeah. It was blended that well that you had no idea? Trout, what did you say...

What was your response to it? You were like, that's weird. Eli sent that. I texted her and I was like, hey, it's kind of weird that Eli sent that picture. He just sent us the other week again. And then we just moved on with the conversation. Then three, four hours later, she's like, oh my God, did you see the fucking screen? Oh God. I thought it was...

Four hours they didn't respond for four. Oh, I thought you said you spent four hours working on If that's for the meme Louve I guess I was like Savs gonna walk in on me being like she's on the gay

She's like, babe. Not again. I'm like, I promise next time I'll stop. So I was like, cut, cut. This is the last time I'm working on something. Why do they look like Brandon and Cody? Well, the first response is, is that you and Cody on the screen? Yeah.

My goals are beyond your understanding. I was like, hey, hey. Really good Photoshop. Yeah, really good Photoshop. That's not a real picture at all. Grab my hand. All right, one more time. Last time. That's what it looked like. I don't know what's gayer, the white claw or that. I don't know.

Dear God. I was like, this is great. We're going to do this from now on. Okay. So what next projects are you working on? Actually, you're going to be on, you might be coming to Pepperbox. Yeah. Oh, that's a huge thing. Yeah.

Yeah. You don't have to. This is either awkward or... No, it's not. No, like... He's like, I didn't know what it'd be like. I drag my feet on stuff. You actually told me about it before, but hell yeah. I'm going to be coming on Pepperbox in a month or two, hopefully. And yeah, the next project is getting through the rings of power. And then it's kind of quiet for the rest of the year as far as...

you know, like gladiator two, but shitty TV is kind of done. I forgot. They're making a second one. I could imagine gladiator job having to get through the rates of power. Cause you watch them from fucking start to finish. Yep. I'm sure CW shit out something before the end of the year.

There'll be some... There's a Venom movie. There's like a couple superhero movies coming out. Yeah. And then Captain African American in February. But yeah, the rest of this year is kind of chilling, going on vacation. Are you also upset that Bucky didn't get the S.H.I.E.L.D.?

Yeah, because they absolutely, that's what it was supposed, narratively, that's what was supposed to happen. That's what happens in the comic books. Me and my girl actually recently just went through the entire MCU again, like just rewatching the movies in the timeline order. There's like a movie I skip here or there because I just don't fucking care to watch it again. But watching all the little subtle hints that they make that Bucky is going to get the fucking shield.

Bucky is the linchpin for everything that happens up to Infinity War. All the Civil War stuff, it's all over Bucky. Not that I don't like Sam. He's a great character. As Falcon, yeah. Yeah, but it was such a fucking rug pull because Bucky's canonically supposed to get the shield. They make...

They make nods to it all throughout the entire MCU and then it goes to Falcon. I'm like, what the fuck? Here's the underlying bigotry of, I don't know if low expectations is kind of the right term, but I'm going to use it anyway.

You have Sam Wilson, who is a black superhero, who is Marvel's second black superhero after Black Panther. A seminal character. Second? I thought he was first. Second. He's the second. Black Panther was first. Oh, you mean in the comics? In the comics, yeah. Okay, got it, got it. So he is the second black superhero that Marvel had that people had to follow. They made Amigo of him when I was a kid. I remember having my Falcon. So pretty...

And I like him in the movie. He's great. If he was leading the Avengers as Falcon, nobody would have a problem. But you have to make him, for one, it's such a cheap way to do it. But you're giving basically the black person, the white person's hand-me-downs. I'm taking this from Eric Gillespie.

my friend, Eric July. So you're giving the black person, the white person's hand-me-downs because the white person's more legitimate because that costume is more legitimate when Falcon is a legitimate character on his own. And if you want to make them better, do what they do with Iron Man was never an A-list character in the Marvel comics. Like no, he was fucking secondary for all

but he's A-list now because they made him into an A-list character. You can do the same thing with Falcon. But if they made Falcon lead the Avengers right now as Falcon, I don't think anybody would have a fucking problem because he's been there since what? Winter Soldier? It would be better. Putting him in this hybrid Falcon he looks like a fucking downhill skier. He looks like Frozone from The Incredibles. He does. And then if you want to think about it, if I was drawing the comic, I'd go, well, how does this work

That a guy with no powers is wielding a shield with wings. What if he fucking throws the shield and it clips one of his wings and he's got no power and he dies in a plane crash like and he's not a super soldier. So he doesn't he should be human. That's the crazy part is a regular human. They get broken pretty easily. You know, Bucky superpowers. He's got super and the arm, you know.

This dude's fucking normal, though. As you're saying, it is that. Hey, we have to make him Captain America for whatever reason instead of, hey, we can just make this dude as a badass. We need a black man as Captain America. Let's pick that Falcon. What's the black one that's not called black something? Falcon. We'll do that. And they built it up. Bucky is literally the equivalent of Captain America. They're both the same fucking age. They grew up together. They both have super human serum, like all that shit. It's the same thing.

picture and they built it up they nodded to it and then they fucking had story of redemption because he was used as a sleeper soldier assassinating americans and all this and for him to take the mantle like it meant something yeah sam just like hey you know he was hanging around as like their little buddy and then he just gets promoted why not because he's powerful he's not like particularly smart strategy he might be a good leader if you show that later

But he doesn't have any money and Falcon and Winter Soldier, he gets denied a fucking bank loan. And he gets... He does. There's a scene where, because he's black, he gets denied a bank loan to buy a boat because it's fucking majority. Oh yeah, for a secondary business for his sister. He doesn't know Pepper Potts. He doesn't know, you know, he didn't know Tony Stark who was dead at the time. He doesn't know a few people that are probably really fucking rich. Despite being an Avenger. Despite being an Avenger. Holy shit, I forgot about that. If David Haller can get into fucking Harvard...

Yeah. Falcon can get a loan for a boat. I forgot about that entire sequence where it's like he was an Avenger. He fought along all these people and then he can't afford a boat because...

They, I forget. It's black. You can't get a bank loan. That's the equivalent to being like a pop star at that, like in that universe, right? Yes. You're one of the most famous people on earth. Do a YouTube video that will pay for every bill you- Dude, go fund me. Like everybody, every bill, like, hey, I saved your ass.

I saved the world. And it's not just like having a medal of honor or something like that. Like in the fucking like Spider-Man movies, as soon as Tony Stark dies, like there's murals everywhere of Iron Man. Like it's a very public site. Yeah. Like these are the heroes. Yeah. Dude, I forgot about that. And then, yes, he just handed the shield and you're like, yep. So what you're saying is the Marvel universe is pushing black man down. Yes, they are. I mean.

They wouldn't let him get a fucking boat. They wouldn't let him get a boat. And they had to hand him a costume of a character he doesn't even fit the power sec for just because they wanted to have a black Captain America. And if that's your only reason of doing it, then that's kind of fucking racist if you think about it. For just a half a second. You could have had a very powerful movie. And that's the best side. It's not the approach of like, oh, that's racist to say that. It's like, no, it's more racist to feel that is how you...

make that movie happen versus hey look watch we can do a movie separate build this guy's lore falcon movie make they did a falcon series do a yeah make a falcon movie that's all you need to do i while i didn't really like the writing for that show i do like the banter between bucky and falcon yeah i think they are very funny so like together so here's the racism

Why not just make a solo Falcon movie with a black start? Well, the reason is they know it wouldn't sell and they don't want to put the investment in it to make it sell, which would be good writing. It's much easier. Hey, let's put Captain America's clothes on him, on the black person, and that'll sell the movie. I mean, think about that a little bit. If they were really about this shit, they would take Falcon. They would put the top notch writer, a top notch director and make a Falcon movie.

movie or and it would sell what is the dumbest marvin's would have no problem with this no like everyone would fucking love that approach we've talked about it multiple times it's like hey why why cater or force this audience versus hey how can you tell me a falcon show or movie wouldn't sell but you're making agatha all along like yeah are you fucking kidding me spending the same money on a tv show for something nobody wanted panther was a great example of like look how good that did

And it wasn't creating a new thing. It was like, hey, Black Panther. Of course not. They took the plot for Lion King. Established character. Took the plot for Lion King. No, established character. It is 100%. As soon as you realize that Black Panther is the fucking Lion King with Michael B. Jordan, it's kind of great. And it's a super mid-movie. But at least it was a character that I read when I was a kid and I liked a lot. Actually, I liked it a lot more the second time I watched it.

i thought i think the cg is dog it is um but it's got at least it has a good villain and chadwick boseman was a really good black panther yes is the best version of it since civil war but he was a really fun and they should have recast him instead they exploited his death and uh didn't put black panther in the black pan well the black panther wasn't in the black panther sequel but they made him a skinny little girl at the end of the movie

it was such it was such a bait and switch and terrible and and it pissed off all the Black Panther fans they're like we should they won Chadwick Boseman wanted them to I never saw the second yeah don't don't yeah Wakanda forever it's yeah they destroy it well not only Black Panther they destroyed Namor Namor is so dumb in that movie they got rid of he's like who is it

He's Namor. They make Prince Namor, who if you look at him in the comics, if you're going to say if he's another race, probably Asian. That'd be probably my guess is Asian. They make him into a Mayan dog.

god but he's a mutant and they can't say submariner so they call him namor and uh it's it's i can't really express how not the character it is it's so fucking bad and it was done for identity politics that was his new name it's not his dead name don't say his dead name i can't it's your god that's true i shouldn't be dead naming you fucking name or i'm a bigot

So because he went through, that's the one he died before that one was released or like halfway through filming or like at the beginning? No, he died. He died before it was released. He died before. Or before it was filmed. He was dying when he filmed Endgame, his scenes for Endgame. Yeah. Which also, shout out to that dude because that is. Holy shit, yeah. He did, never said a goddamn thing. I didn't even know he was sick. Yeah. Yeah.

Literally, it was that. And then passed, and everyone was like, holy shit, he went through all this without saying a thing. And then that got him more respect for all the roles he did leading up to that. And then you have that turd that fell right after, and you're like...

My guy, this is an easy layup at this point. Well, dude, it's like filming our little things that we do. You know, we'll do like two, three day film days and we're like, fuck, we're wrecked. That dude went through that whole movie like dying of cancer and just held up as a champ. Which explains why like his bit was short, like outside of the CG suit and everything. But still like colon cancer is very aggressive. From my understanding, like that's one of those like you find out you have it and you die. Yeah, that's what killed my dad. So it's brutal. It's brutal to fuck.

and watch so like he had major balls for like the way he went about it and stuff never announced it too like nope and that's what's crazy you have different and if you announce you have cancer you'll never get like pushback on like from anyone unless you're boogie unless you're boogie unless you're boogie

That is a very good example. That is how you don't announce it. But if you're like filming... Stolen cancer. Yeah, literally stolen cancer. And then get a fake tattoo that's not even real. Get a fake tattoo. My mom used to twist my tipples.

That's a great clip. No. My good friend Mahler from EFAP has a nice long video about the lore of Boogie that you need to... They did a great episode on it. Because I have never watched a second of Boogie content outside of the locale podcast. Same. EFAP. I did want to ask, though, what your opinion was. Because I have mixed feelings about it. I had a...

I had an opinion when it was first announced and now I'm like kind of second guessing it. Your thoughts on RDJ being the new Doctor Doom. Because that is... It probably was shocking to me. I was told this like three or four months before it came. Really? Yeah. You knew before? I knew. You didn't tell us the whole time? I kept the secret the whole time. This guy keeps secrets like a mother...

Big studios. If you still talk to him... Prison Tommy a couple things. You can trust him. Don't bend over for the soap. He ain't no snitch. Yeah. So...

- Yeah, I found out about it. There's some other things I found out that I can't say, but yeah, so I knew it. - Can you tell us after? - Yeah, I can tell you when we're off the air. - Fuck yeah. - Absolutely, absolutely. So like details about like what's behind this and all this, like the whole, I think some of the details got out. Like they fucking bought a house to have the meeting with Robert Downey Jr. in.

so they can have it just completely outside of any other, so they can try to keep it as secret as possible.

I thought they weren't going to say anything. It was supposed to be a surprise in the stinger after the fantastic four. That's what it was supposed to be a surprise. I don't even know if I should be saying that, but whatever. So yes, he's going to show up at the end of fantastic four is showing up. Yes. Or excuse me, that he's coming on next year. He's not in the fantastic four, right? There's, there's pieces of him. There's pieces of it. So it's at the stinger. It's at the end and credit scene. That's where he, he's going to show up. So, um,

Yeah, I found this out months ago and I was asked, like, what are people going to think? I'm like...

They're going to go fucking nuts. But I think ultimately it's a ballsy decision because you don't bring him back as Iron Man, which would be dumb at this point. Although they should have never killed. Killing Iron Man was fucking dumb. Was just dumb. Really? Yeah. I think it's a terrible idea. If they closed it off as a whole and there's no more Marvel. Have somebody ride off into the sunset. You don't have to like... For one, heroes don't die. They always get brought back to life. But like...

I am of the belief that you need to continue making Iron Man movies. It's not Robert Downey Jr. owns the role. Sean Connery owned the role of James Bond. But guess what? You needed to have Roger Moore afterwards. You need to recast it. That's what I say. And it's not going to be as good. That's fine. I feel like they softly did that through Spider-Man. Yes. Through like the whole like, oh, we need to like the next Iron Man. Like because that becomes like a thread through the Spider-Man movies.

Because he feels like he has to be the next Iron Man. I think the future of cinematic universes will be one-off things where you recast the main character and it won't be... Like James Bond, it won't be clearly defined canon, but it's all the same story that are just individual movies. That's how it works. It's worked for James Bond. Because I can see both sides. Like Brandon, as you were saying, I feel like if you have...

rdj die you're like okay hey like conclude that story rdj didn't but iron man did rdj came back because the way they're going to present it is he is victor von doom and he is going to be a variant

and they're going to use the guy who saved the universe and this is... Victor Von Doom is going to be the one who destroys it because Fantastic Four is in a different universe. Which also, if you... Dr. Doom is the one dude that has the...

He's the only one that can actually pull together in his vision how to not have the end of mankind happen. And one of the comments, I forget which one it is. He is the only one that knows and predicts the future. It's like, hey, this is how mankind has to be done. Dr. Doom is the perfect, for those of you who know him, he's basically, he's melded science and magic. He melds the two together. Gangster. I come from a land where they're one and the same. He is the best Marvel villain, period.

Period. Like end of story. Better than Thanos, better than fucking Galactus, better than everything is Dr. Doom. So that's when that was announced, what they needed, it did what it needed to do though. Cause it stopped. It got people interested in Marvel. Like whatever side you were on, you weren't going, man, it's another stupid woke intersectional Marvel movie. It's holy shit. Robert Downey Jr. Is coming back and they're bringing back the Russo brothers to direct and

So it was a clear, like, we fucked up. We're going to try to fix it the best way we can. It's probably... It doesn't do shit for Legacy. Like, this doesn't fix problems down the road because Robert Downey Jr. is fucking old. And it is a risk because you... Like, he's not going to play Doctor Doom forever. You're going to have to actually recast Doctor Doom at some point to get us a proper Doctor Doom. But for the time being... I don't feel like RDJ is too old to be a proper Doctor Doom, though. I mean, he's...

He's supposed to be a contemporary of Reed Richards. Reed Richards is old too, though. Pedro's not as old as Robert Downey Jr., but he's young. How old is Robert Downey Jr.? He's in his 60s. Is he really? Yeah. Fuck. 60, 61. And then how many years it takes to make him. I saw the pictures of him where it was like lack of Iron Man. Because he does it. That's good. Pedro's like 45, but they're supposed to be contemporaries. I do. Oh, God. I will...

59 yeah, that's in I'll die on the hill. I don't think there would have had nearly the the emotional impact there that was expected out of Endgame if he didn't die. I loved that. So as somebody who like Iron Man was like my first entry to the MCU like that was I remember watching it in theaters and like that was my first superhero that I was like, oh this is cool as shit and

when he died during end game like that was actually emotional for me like it's kind of gay like to get attached to like a you know comic book character i mean you're looking at what almost 15 years at that point yeah it was over 10 years of my life that like looking up to this guy is like okay he was a a weapons dealer you know super smart engineering guy like solved all his problems through this like we talked about brandon or rdj

We were talking about Iron Man. Are we explaining Brandon? Super successful, handsome guy, almost won an election, pretty big YouTube channel. You can see why I'm like, I identify with this quite a lot back in the day. I get why you died. Oh.

But I was like, yeah. But the problem is, like, then you're stuck with, if you're going to bring Iron Man back, you have to do some finagling and some stupid shit, which they do in the comics. Listen, they've killed Iron Man in the comics before, and they've gone back in time and brought a younger version back. I'm just glad they didn't. They've decided it was a bad idea to go through the Iron Heart direction. Because, dear God, I was not looking forward to that. Iron Heart comes out next year. Fuck me.

Well, they've delayed it so many times. They have. It's actually been completed for two years. Me and Cody are looking at each other like, what's Ironheart? What's Ironheart? It is a black female Ironman to the point where they relaunched it in the comics and they called it Ironman. They called the comic Ironman after they killed Tony Stark was, God, 2016, 17? Tony Stark died. It was Captain Marvel's fault.

It was 2020, I think, right? It was 2020. It was 2019 because it was right before COVID. 2019. Okay. Yeah. In the movies. In the comic books. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. In the comic books, it was, I think, 2016. Maybe sooner. Doesn't matter. So they bring in Ironheart, who's a 15-year-old Riri Williams. It's a black girl who's smarter. Smarter than Reed Richards. Smarter than Shuri.

smarter than Tony Stark, who's dead. And they still called it Iron Man so they can sell it as Iron Man, but he was just an AI in her head while Riri Williams steals his glory. And that didn't last long, so they created Iron Heart. And that horrible fucking costume you saw in Wakanda Forever, which you didn't see, that's what it is. I saw screenshots. It's fucking terrible.

It is terrible. It looks like fanfic. That's what a lot of this stuff has turned into is fanfic. So, yeah, Ironheart being kicked out. They're kicking that can down the road like they delayed Agatha as long as they could. They're delaying this one and they're trying to like spread out the shit so they can put in some more good stuff in between. The problem is it's still shit.

God bless it. I love Disney. I do too. They're fucking retarded. And they're going to guarantee that I have a job for at least a couple more years. Oh yeah, you're fucking golden. Cody, do you want to go to the after show? Yeah, let's go to the after show. Bye everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast. I was joined today by... What? You're going to talk about the Jews again? We're just going to pick Connor as that person. Connor's like, I am not Hitler.

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