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Why is Dietrich Bonhoeffer's life often turned into a mythology?

Bonhoeffer's life has been co-opted by various groups to justify their own causes, from pro-life activists to climate protesters, due to his involvement in the resistance against Hitler. This has led to his story being exaggerated and used to support contradictory political and theological positions.

What was the Treaty of Versailles and how did it affect Germany?

The Treaty of Versailles, signed after World War I, imposed harsh penalties on Germany, including losing 13% of its land, 10% of its population, and significant resources like iron and coal. It also forced Germany to pay reparations of 132 billion gold marks (over $500 billion today) and limited its military to 100,000 soldiers and 15,000 sailors.

How did National Socialism gain popularity in Germany?

National Socialism, or Nazism, gained popularity by offering a message of hope, restoration, and redemption to a defeated and economically struggling Germany. Hitler's anti-Semitic and nationalistic rhetoric, combined with a romanticized vision of German revitalization, resonated with a population desperate for change.

What role did Luther's theology play in Nazi ideology?

Luther's anti-Semitic writings were weaponized by the Nazis, who saw his ideas about the relationship between church and state as supportive of their regime. Luther's emphasis on the separation of church and state allowed Hitler to claim that any church involvement in politics was a violation, giving him leverage over the church.

What was the German Christian movement and how did it align with Nazism?

The German Christian movement was a Protestant group that embraced Nazi ideology, advocating for a Nazified version of Christianity. They supported Hitler and sought to create a Reich Church that would align Christian teachings with Nazi racial and nationalistic ideals.

Who was Dietrich Bonhoeffer and what was his role in the Confessing Church?

Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a Lutheran pastor and theologian who became a key figure in the Confessing Church, a group that opposed the Nazification of the church. He founded a seminary to train pastors for the Confessing Church, but it was eventually shut down by the Gestapo.

Why did Bonhoeffer regret leaving Germany for America in 1939?

Bonhoeffer felt he had no right to participate in the reconstruction of Christian life in Germany after the war if he did not share the trials of his people during the Nazi regime. He believed that Christians in Germany would face a choice between the defeat of their nation or the destruction of Christian civilization.

How did Bonhoeffer justify his involvement in the plot to kill Hitler?

Bonhoeffer's ethical theory emphasized that ethical rules are human articulations of God's will, which is larger than any human system. He believed that in extreme situations, such as Nazi Germany, ethical rules could be broken if they worked against the greater good. For Bonhoeffer, killing Hitler was a necessary evil to prevent greater harm.

What was Bonhoeffer's final message about the role of the church?

Bonhoeffer believed that the church exists for others and must share in the secular problems of ordinary human life, helping and serving rather than dominating. He saw Jesus as the ultimate example of being 'the man for others,' and called the church to follow this model.

Shownotes Transcript

A new movie has been released this week about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the German pastor who was killed by the Nazis for his involvement in a plot to kill Hitler. 

Bonhoeffer's fame has ballooned into a kind of mythology that has seen people of all stripes "claim" him as their own. But our guest for this episode says that if we only think of him as a “hero” for our cause, we may miss important pieces of Bonhoeffer’s complex life and thinking. 

So, who was Dietrich Bonhoeffer and why does he still matter?

  • (04:47) - - Bonhoeffer's Germany

  • (13:13) - - The Nazi Church

  • (22:59) - - Bonhoeffer's career begins

  • (30:36) - - Bonhoeffer begins to speak out

  • (40:20) - - Bonhoeffer joins a resistence

  • (46:55) - - The plot to kill Hitler

  • (50:51) - - Bonhoeffer's ethical theory: how he might have justified killing Hitler

  • (58:09) - - Imprisoned by the Nazis

  • (01:00:21) - - Bonhoeffer is executed

  • (01:04:59) - - What we get wrong about Bonhoeffer

  • (01:08:11) - - Jesus: the man for others