We Wasted $1000 in a Japanese Bunny Girl Bar | Trash Taste #193
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- Hello and welcome to this dystopian episode of "Trash Taste: Capitalism Has Ruined Society." - Yeah, Garnt. - It's like a Joe Rogan episode. - Yeah. But I'm your host for today, Garnt, and joining me once again are the boys. - Down with capitalism, am I right? - Yeah, and we thought today we'd have a topical episode since it's been a while since we did a topical one.

- What are we talking about? What topical things would you like us to cover today? - Some of the fun topics. - So there's a lot of fun topics, but I guess the thing that just came out yesterday was the live action avatar. - Oh yeah. - Which I didn't even know about until like all of Twitter just banded together to shit on it. - Oh, you didn't see all the announcements for it?

- I did, we talked about it on Trash Taste. I thought we were talking about- - Oh, no, no, no. So yeah, after that though. - That's all right. - After that, they kept releasing trailers that made it look really bad. - Yeah. - Right. - And I feel like they were almost doing this like on purpose or something. - They kept making statements being like, okay, so this is how,

- The live action Avatar is gonna be slightly different from the original TV series. And every time they would tweet out people like, why would you do that? - Yeah, they would just change core characters and stuff like that. - So yeah, I watched the first episode.

- Like the first episode and second half of the second episode. - So to clarify before we get a pitchforks. - Sorry, first half of the second episode. I'm a bit tired. - Garnt messaged us last night at like 10:00 PM. He's like, "Hey guys, you should watch an episode or two of the Avatar." I'm like, Garnt, why didn't you tell me this earlier? - Well, I didn't actually know because I hadn't watched it. I was just pitching it to you boys. - Have you seen the original like animation?

- No. - Really? - Okay, this is good. - Okay, this is good. This is good. Yeah, 'cause you got a fresh eye on it. - I thought it'd be interesting 'cause I would be coming into it blind. - You've watched it. - Yeah, I've watched it. - Okay, yeah. - And I've watched all of Korra. - You've watched all, oh wow, you've watched all of me then, okay. - And I watched the first two episodes 'cause it just came out last night. So obviously I can't watch, like I don't know how many episodes are there, like eight or 10? - It's eight or, yeah. It covers the first book, I believe.

- I don't keep track of that. I don't read. - What's the first book in the original? Is it just the first season? - Yeah, but it's like the first season. So they're like split up into books basically. It's like the book of water, the book of fire, the book of whatever. - Okay. I think the first one was the longest, no, as well in the series. - The first one? - Yeah, I thought so. I don't know if I'm crazy. I might be. But definitely it's the most,

- Well, not filler, but like slice of life. - Or what 3RAM would call plot. - Yes. - That is the plot corner. - They call it plot in 3RAM. - Yeah, but so I mean,

- Well, by all intense purposes, I think I'm a pretty decent Avatar fan. I think I liked the original quite a lot. I really like Korra. I don't know until people didn't like Korra. - I couldn't get past the first episode of Korra. - Korra's great. First season of Korra, I really- - It's not the same, bro.

- It's not the same. - It's not supposed to be the same. - The moment where you see like- - I don't give you vanilla chocolate, I'm sorry, vanilla ice cream and say, "Hey, it's not chocolate." - The moment where like you see like Katara who's like eight years old is like, "Aang's been dead for 20 years." - That was tight. - And I'm just like, no. - I love that. - This is not my- - I like that. - Hashtag not my avatar. - Bro, that's just JoJo's. - You know what I'm saying?

- That's when you see Joseph. That's like, you know what I mean? When he's old, it's like, what is that? Why is he old? I don't want old people in my shows. - Garnt, how you're feeling right now is exactly how I feel every time you fuckers bring up League. This is exactly, I'm like, mm, yes, I understand. - This is weird that we're talking about cartoons and I'm like, hmm, I'm having a lot to contribute now. - Okay, okay, well, let's start with a very basic, did you like it? Did you like the first two episodes, first episode? - I think it's aight. - Okay.

- I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I know the bare bones basic of Avatar because Jesus Christ, everyone knows the introduction of Avatar, whereas like four nations lived in harmony until the Fire Nation attacks. And yes, I was like, there it is. It's the Fire Nation. I know and...

- The fact that they said that line in the beginning of the episode and then they had an in-character moment where they repeated that moment, I was just like, ah. - The beginning part, the beginning intro part, they did an abridged version of it. And then the in-character one, she did the full thing. And I'm just like, this sounds really off.

- I guess, and I think that's my one criticism right now. Again, I've only seen first episode, first half, second episode. My one criticism of it right now is that just some of the dialogue- - Yeah, the dialogue is weird. - Is a bit weird. - Well, my impression was, 'cause I don't know anything about, you know, I haven't seen what the original is like or how that was scripted, but my impression was this feels like

If you didn't tell me this was an adaptation of a cartoon. - You figure it out. - No, no, this feels like a light novel adaptation. And the reason it feels like a light novel adaptation is because the dialogue and just the way people talk. - It's weird. - Is super weird. Like there was this one scene where, you know, Aang finds out he becomes the Avatar. And then he has this whole monologue being like, "But I don't want to give up this life, I can't be."

- I want to be the avatar. - He just fucking runs away. - Yeah, yeah. - And it's just him just narrating all of his internal thoughts. And I'm like, this feels like something a light novel would do. - Yeah, it's weird, right? Because I'm pretty sure something similar like that happened in the original cartoon. But for some reason, when it turned into an anime, it was like I was watching like a fucking like Shakespeare soliloquy,

It's a little bit too dramatized to make it feel serious, if that makes sense. - I had fun with it. I enjoyed it. I didn't hate it as like Twitter wants. I think everyone wants to- - Oh my God, Twitter has such a hate burner for this. - Yeah, I kind of, before I watched it, I just didn't look at Twitter. So I don't know what they're actually saying about it, but I know that before it, everyone was like losing their minds.

- From what I saw on Twitter, everyone was just like, this is like an absolutely terrible adaptation. Everything about it sucks. And so I saw that and I was like, all right, well, fuck, nothing can be as bad as the Shyamalan adaptation, but let's see. And I watched it and I was like, the choreography and the CG is like pretty good. - Yeah. - If you ask me.

- Not amazing, but it's pretty good. - I feel like Twitter, with all the engagement bait now that is going on on Twitter, 'cause I only knew that this was released through all of the shitting on it that came out yesterday. And so I came into it thinking, "Oh, this is gonna be fucking awful. I'm gonna get the popcorn, ready to roast the shit out of this, like the fucking Fire Nation did to everyone else." And then it just like, I watched it and then,

- It wasn't bad, I don't know. - It's not bad. - Maybe it gets worse. - Visually it's done very well. Like I think all the costumes are great. I think all the characters look great. Nothing looks out of place. I think the dialogue is just kind of whatever. And also the one thing that- - Some of the acting as well. - The acting is like, honestly, I feel bad 'cause he's literally a kid, but Aang is kind of like, I'm like, oh God, it's hard to watch Aang. - He's not much of an actor.

And then people might be like, "Oh man, like it's so much better." And he's just like that in the anime. I'm like, "No, it's kind of like super chill and fun to watch in the anime." I guess cartoon. - Whatever. - Yeah. - But I like Iroh and I like, what's the fuck the guy, I forgot his name. - Zuko. - Zuko, I like Zuko in it. - Yeah, Zuko's really good in it. - I also like Katara in soccer as well. Like I thought the car,

I think the one thing that they did really well with this one, and I don't know, maybe my standards is just low because I'm comparing it to the Shyamalan adaptation, but the casting is like pretty good. The casting is pretty damn good. - I could not stop staring at, his name's Sokka. - Sokka. - Sokka. He has like the fucking, he has the most defined chin of anyone I've ever seen in my life. - He mused, bro, he mused.

- I turned to Cindy and I was like, bro, he definitely look maxes man. He mute the fuck out of that shit. - One thing I actually did feel like was kind of weird is that like,

- Look at that jawline. - That fucking jawline, man. - It feels intentional that he does that with his face. - Well, because a lot of, I think what they're trying to do, especially with like soccer, for instance, is that like a lot of the facial expressions that the actual actor does,

is very synonymous to what the cartoon version of Sokka does. It's the same kind of like facial movements and like attitude, which like I respect because, you know, again, that's the one thing the Shyamalan version did not do. Like if you look at the Shyamalan Sokka, it is like, that's not fucking Sokka. That's just a dude in a Sokka outfit. - One thing that definitely feels a bit odd is that I feel like some of the characters like Zuko,

does pretty well is that like bending and shooting out these fires or water, whatever. It's supposed to be like a, almost like a martial art. The movement's supposed to be very martial art like. And I think that like weirdly Zuko does it pretty well, but a lot of the characters just looks like they're like in Hogwarts when they just throw shit out. I'm like, and it's just kind of odd because it doesn't,

- It doesn't feel like it's conducive of a, like a, you need to be at like, understand the earth. You need to understand these elements and use them. And I feel like it's almost missing that at least in episode one and two. - I mean, I enjoyed a lot of the choreography, especially in some of the early scenes, 'cause it did feel like a mix between traditional like martial arts choreography and you know, with like some special powers attached to it. And especially the early scene when,

the fire nation kind of like attacks the wind nation or whatever. - Yeah, and I was- - The air nomads? - The air nomads, yeah, whatever they're called. And I was like, damn, this is some pretty sick choreography. - I will say the one thing that distracted the shit out of me in episode one was I completely forgot that avatar, the Ang's teacher's name was Gyatso. And the entire time I was just like, Gyatso!

Also there's that one scene where like the fire nation is attacking and like Gyatso is like, I can't fucking say his name without laughing. Where Gyatso is like, "All right children, go on and hide." And then he's like, "Where's Aang?" And then he just goes. - I totally forgot about that. - I completely forgot about that. - I just fucking burst out laughing. I was like, "Mum fucker's screaming like an NPC." He's like, "Aang!"

- It would be hard to be like, do that straight faced. - Yeah. - I was like, so you want me to shout? Yeah, okay, I guess I can do that. - It's like a heavy rain cut scene. This is so funny. - Yeah, it all just feels a little stiff and I think that's the best word to describe it. It feels stiff so far. - Yeah, for sure. - And I'm not sure if it's the acting or the writing or a little bit of both, but then, you know, there are some scenes where

I don't know if they're just rushing through things. - I saw a friend of mine who posted like an Instagram story and they were like, yeah, it feels a little rushed.

- Yeah. Which is weird because I think as of right now, the pace, at least the first episode is like pretty on par with the pacing of the original cartoon. - The second one, they were kind of like jumping around a bit and it was kind of like, we're here, we're here, we're here. The enemy's here and their enemies are gonna find them. And next thing we're there, we found them already. It's like, what the, okay. - To me, to me,

- Like the thing that felt rushed was one, it was just like, okay, we need to give the audience as much information as possible, as fast as possible. Like the whole spiel with the grandma being like, so everyone knows this.

- But I'm just gonna repeat it, you know? And then this is the entire history of everything. And I'm like, oh, okay. - That's what I'm saying, they literally talk like NPCs. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And this is like, ah, this is just an oblivion NPC making sure you're caught up. - I also don't think you, like they showed the massacre of the air nomads, which is very sad obviously. But I actually just don't think you need to show that. I think "Amitars" as a show works and is understandable. - Really? - Yeah, because in the original it doesn't show it.

It just opens with Aang awaking from his coma. - I think that was pretty cool though. I mean, that was a sick scene. - I think it's a cool detail, but I actually, like the more I think about it, the more I'm like, I feel like it doesn't change Aang 'cause Aang still wasn't there. Like Aang leaves, so Aang doesn't experience it. And I almost feel like, I mean, obviously seeing that adds to the weight 'cause you know, Aang left and abandoned the people. - I feel like they should have gone harder

on the invasion scene just to like really build up the fire nation. 'Cause I thought we were gonna have a full on fucking Anakin goes back to the kids temple scene where, 'cause there were a bunch of kids hiding, right? - In the scene before they literally like toast a guy. - Yeah, they literally like toast a guy. - And then after that, nobody gets more than a beating. - Yeah. - Like searing. Like it's like, come on, if we're gonna commit to charring a man and like, let's just fucking go hard.

- I don't know man, Gyatso got fucking crisped up. - Well 'cause like, avatars are pretty like dark at times could be dark show. There's a very famous episode that I, you know, I mean, I guess that that'll probably cover it. I mean, if you might spoil it if you're gonna. - Yeah, I don't know. - Are you talking about the bloodbending? - Yeah, the bloodbending. - Yeah, that's a fucking awesome episode. - Where like this old woman goes to like, I forgot her name already. How I forgot her name? Some sex is like soccer actually. - What the fuck is bloodbending? - Okay, so. - Okay, so slight spoiler for Avatar. - Wait, what's the name of the woman again?

- What, Katara? - Yeah, Katara. Yeah, Katara. Yeah, yeah. 'Cause it's like, what do you, the woman goes, "Hey, what do you think is, it's in blood, water. You can bend their fucking blood if you know what you're doing." - Yeah, and there's this one scene where Katara is learning to blood bend and that death is easily the most scarring thing I've ever seen in a children's cartoon. It's actually mega, mega dark. But that was the point in "Avatar" as well where I was like, oh, okay.

This is something different. - It's tight. - It's tight. But I don't know, like I think at this point in the story, again, I've only seen first two episodes, so I don't know. But like at this point in the story, yeah, as you said, it's like, it's just a bit stiff. It's just a bit awkward at times. And it doesn't feel like genuine interactions with these characters, if that makes sense.

- It almost feels like their relationship has been just fast forwarded. 'Cause I'm like, everyone seems really close, like already really fast. And this seems like it felt like it was not a natural progression. It felt like, okay, these people need to get along and then they just suddenly have chemistry. - Well, they removed Sokka's sexism.

I was about to say, one of the updates that they did was they were like, okay, so in the live action avatar, Sokka is no longer a misogynist. And everyone was, you know, to comply with today's standards. And everyone was like, no, the point of Sokka being a misogynist is that he grows from it. And then at the end of the show, he's not a misogynist. Then he learns to like respect female warriors. You know, like the second episode is when he goes to the village and gets trained by the girl.

- Part of the arc of Sokka and making more likable is that he was this kind of guy who had obviously these prenotions. - Yeah. - It's like, oh, you're a female warrior? You're not as strong as the male warriors. - But it doesn't really hit, it's kind of like a weird love thing in the show. - Yeah, they're going to second base way too fast. - I thought it was kind of like that. - But I think from everything- - It's that jawline, man. - It's the goddamn jawline. - He like turns up at the village like.

- That's what he looks like. - Motherfucker's face bending, man. He's inventing a new element right here. - It's the avatar.

- He should have, yeah. I mean, if he'd done a hundred years of, you know, looks maxing and mu-ing, he might've came out of chat and said he came out of beta boy. - What I don't understand is how the fuck did the water tribe lose to the fire tribe? Because I was just like- - It's kind of glossed over. - Yeah, I was like, okay, seeing the fire nation attack the wind nation, I was like, okay,

- This is just a bad matchup. Like when that girl was in like the fucking tornado and the guy just puts like the fire and like the air, just like she just crisps herself basically. - Well, no, isn't it the whole thing of that because it was the comet festival, you find out later in the series that the comet is supposed to like increase the power of fire bending.

So that's why they decided to attack on that day because it's like, yeah, we might have like an elemental disadvantage, but because we got the power of comment and anime on our side, we can fucking destroy any of the other elements. And that's how they like took over. But they don't explain that in the live action. - And then I think also in the anime, the cartoon there's like fire can also use like lightning if they're ready. - Oh yeah, yeah, 'cause I wrote as lightning bending, which is also sick as shit. - How's that to do with fire?

- It's close enough. - It's not close to like air, if anything. - It's like plasma. - Plasma bending. - Plasma bending. - Yeah, I think it's just kind of whatever suits the story and that's okay 'cause it kind of makes sense. - I am looking forward to seeing, what's her face? The blind girl. - Yeah, I'm interested to see how they're gonna do that. - What's her name again? Shit.

Oh, fuck. I know. She's like my favorite character. Fuck. What's her name? Toph. I'm excited to see Toph. Cause she is easily the best thing out of Avatar. Yeah. The, the advent, the earthbending effects in like the very first scene look really cool. Yeah. It was really cool. Breaking. Yeah.

- Especially again compared to the Shyamalan. - Yeah, I've seen that clip with the M Night Shyamalan where the five earth benders. - To be fair. - And it's like three rocks. - To be fair, you know, back in the day, CGI wasn't as good. The tables were turned, I think.

- I saw an Onion article that was like, it was like an Onion article and it was a Shyamalan quote. And he goes, "See, it's not so easy, huh?" Or something like that. It was so good. - But yeah, I think overall I'm like more pleasantly surprised with how good it actually is compared to like all the hate that it was getting onto it. - The only scenes that like look kind of ass when they were like in the boat, the CGI looked really bad. - Yeah. - When they were in the boat.

- What, at the beginning? - Yeah, it looked really bad. - There was some sort of shots of CGI that look a bit dodgy, but nothing enough to like really bring me out of it. - But I mean, the show looks at its best when you just let the, the costumes are so good. Just let the costumes and the backdrop do all the work. You know, you've got these cool buildings, these cool backdrops. - Again, when you compare it to fucking Shyamalan soccer, that's second image. That's the same character.

- Ain't no way. - What was so bad about the Shamlan one? Because I- - Oh, everything. - I've never watched it. - I've never watched it. I just know it's like horrible. - You should sit down with a bucket of popcorn and watch that one. - Because I'd like, like I said- - Watch the Netflix one and then go back and watch the Shamlan one and you'll realize just how much better the Netflix one is. - This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Going online without ExpressVPN is like not having a case on your phone.

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- Do you think you still would have aged well? Like now, do you think it's like- - The cartoon? - Yeah. - That's still great. - I watched it for the first time during COVID. - Oh shit, okay. - Yeah, 'cause I didn't have Nickelodeon growing up. So I missed out on a bunch of Nickelodeon shows. So like during COVID, I was like, well, I have to fucking watch Avatar. I feel it's like a rite of passage. - That's really good. - And I watched it, it's amazing.

It's actually so good. - Yeah, well, I think like from my impression of this avatar, it's a good introduction that I don't think is- - As it often is with the live action. - No, like I came into it with a similar feeling of like the one piece live action where I'm like, I know this is probably not going to be the best way to consume the story, but it's a cool introduction. I think it does its job. It's a lot of mixed bags in its execution, but in like, in the story,

- In order just for me to like get interested in the franchise, yeah, I think it did its job. - You hear that they're gonna be making a continuation movie of the original series? - What? - Yeah, so apparently the original creators are going to make a cartoon, like animated film of " The Last Airbender," but it's set with all of them in their like 20s and 30s.

- So like, especially after the announcement of this and all the hate that it's been getting, there's just been so many just people like, I've seen so many like meme images of like fucking, and one from family guy where like Peter Griffin is like covered in pillows and it's like me trying not to die before October, 2025. So that might be good. But so you have until October, 2025 to watch the original cartoon. - Do you think you're gonna watch the rest of this one though? - I will. Yeah. 'Cause I'm genuinely curious to see

if they'll actually be able to, I don't know, maybe it's just kind of having a rough start right now and it might take me time to kind of acclimatize to the changes. But again, like as of right now, I just think it's all right. I don't think it's,

as horrible as Twitter is making it out to be, but it's not like the most amazing thing I've seen. - I don't think it's as well executed as the one piece live action. - No. - Oh fuck no. - It says a lot. - Yeah. - I think the worst thing this might have done is it just might be a forgettable adaptation, which is probably on the same par as now 80% of live action adaptations. We don't really see like complete train wrecks anymore. I think the last one I remember being a complete train wreck was probably Death Note.

- Yeah, that was actually quite a while ago. - That was ages ago, dude. That was like 2016. - Did you guys see the trailer for the Borderlands? - Oh yeah, I saw that. - No. - You guys ever see this? - No. - That's gonna be a train wreck. - Dude, could you show Garth the trailer for the Borderlands live action? - Look, I have no knowledge of Borderlands. - I've never played the game either. - This came out of fucking nowhere. There's a Borderlands movie being made? - Cate Blanchett and Kevin Hart. - The cast is insane.

- Oh my God. - Kevin Hart? - Yeah. - Jack Black? - Yeah, Jamie Lee Curtis as well. - Jamie Lee Curtis? - What the hell? - Bro, it looks bizarre. What a fucking weird movie. - It's so weird.

- This is just, I don't know who wanted this. I'm kinda hyped for this. - Nobody asked for this. - I'm kinda hyped there. Like I can't wait to watch this. This looks so bad or good. I love it. - This is just the FNAF movie. - This could either be actually amazing or it could be so bad that it's good. - Yeah, I think so. Kinda sad they did, I don't know. I think it's like the first game they're doing. 'Cause the second game obviously is a better story, very famous.

- What was good about Borderlands? Was it like the witty dialogue or the- - Hard story. - I mean, Borderlands was just really popular 'cause it was kind of like one of the first games that did kind of like what Destiny is now super famous for. I mean, it was like one of the first games that like RPG

like JRPG mechanics, but with guns. - Yeah. - 'Cause the whole drawer of it was like, you get to pick your class, which is like, they all had to do different things. And then you can go in a skill tree and get these crazy abilities. And then everyone drops guns from different rarities. So like you could get like legendary guns that did crazy shit. Like it could like,

it would like shoot your shield at the enemy. It would shoot grenades at the enemy or it would shoot guns at the enemy. - Also it's just like mega stylized, right? - It was like really heavily cel-shaded. The humor was all around like 2010s gamer humor. And then the second game was just really good 'cause the villain was really popular and the villain was really funny 'cause he would just talk to you the whole time. - Jack, was it? - Handsome Jack. - Handsome Jack, yeah. - He would just talk shit to you all the time in like a really obnoxious way. And I guess at the time it was kind of like, I don't think anyone had done that.

and the mechanics were really fun. I loved "Bored Lens" too, it's one of my favorite games ever. It was so fun playing that game. And then obviously "Destiny" kind of came and has a lot of similar mechanics, but added in a lot of- - But were you expecting a live action film? - No, I don't think anyone was. I feel like I heard that this was in the works eight years ago, but I think everyone thought like,

- 'Cause you always hear like- - What's the one video game then that you think would be good as a live action? - Doom. - No, we have- - Doom already has a live action. - We had the live action. - We have a live action Doom. - Get a better one. - It was one of the worst live action films ever made. - We can get a better one. - It had The Rock in it for God's sake. - I want Doom the anime, that's what I wanted, sorry. Live action video game, fuck. - Do you think Mass Effect would be good as a live action? As a Mass Effect fan, what do you think?

- 'Cause I heard the story is like great, right? It would need to have a TV series, not a movie. - Right. - A lot of them should have, like "The Witcher" had a TV show, two seasons until they kicked off "Henry Cavill". - Right. - Yeah, I mean, the good thing about "Mass Effect" was the character interaction and just how well the cast of characters is written. But if you distill down the plot of "Mass Effect" into a movie,

you'll probably like take away all of like the cool character writing and character interaction. And you'll just have like this Hollywood, generic Hollywood action movie basically. - I think it's so hard to say with video games. 'Cause like, I don't think anyone in their right mind would be like, yeah, a Super Mario movie makes so much sense.

- That's true. - If you were going off pure gameplay, I think you'd have to really think outside the box if you wanted to actually like make a game. Like you could probably do a Geometry Wars movie if you really like went crazy enough with it and thought about it. - What's Geometry Wars? - Just that fucking cube. You've seen- - You mean Geometry Dash? - Oh, sorry, fuck Geometry Dash. Geometry Dash, sorry. - Geometry Wars. Triangles versus squares. - You know Geometry Dash, right? - No. - Yeah, you do. - I probably do. - You know this game. - Just type in anything and- - Yeah, just type Geometry Dash, you'll know it. - Okay.

- Oh yeah, I've seen this game. - I was addicted to this game for a while. - I used to play this game, yeah. - Yeah, you could do like anything if you really like thought out the box enough and made it fun. I mean, especially if you're making a movie for kids.

- You have a lot more. - I don't wanna see? - "Mind Sweeper." - That would be an awesome movie. Are you kidding me? - No, it would not. - Okay, explain the plot of "Mind Sweeper." - Squid Game, but "Mind Sweeper." - Tell me that would not work. Come on. - Actually, I think they're gonna do that for "Squid Game 2." They're gonna have like a mind sweep. - They made "Battleship" the movie. - Oh yeah, that's true. Which was also terrible. - Which was terrible to watch.

- I don't know which- - I don't know which games have the best stories in general and could they be distilled into movies? - It'd be more so TV though. Like, look at "The Last of Us." Great TV adaptation. - True. - What the fuck is going on here? - We are going through technical difficulties. - Okay, I have a contender. That might be good. Heavy rain. - No, I think it'd be a TV show. - TV show? - Yeah, I think so. - Maybe. - Is it even a good story?

- I've not played Heavy Rain. - Yeah, Heavy Rain's a good story, right? - But that's basically a story game. So I feel like when it's like, the game is like, 'cause it's not really much gameplay in that, it's just a story. - Yeah, so that's why it makes sense to make it a movie or a TV series. - Yeah, but I feel like at that point, it's barely any point in remaking it. - Okay, do you think, okay, sometimes- - Make it more cinematic. - Yeah, sorry. - I mean, it's an old game. Older game. - Sometimes I'm like conflicted, right? Because sometimes I think there's a certain game that I think that has a good story, but-

is it a good story for a video game or is it a good story period that could be translated into like other things, you know? Cause a lot of, like I said, for example, with Mass Effect, right? I think, you know, at a score Mass Effect has a lot of interesting ideas, but also it's just really cool to be the fucking main character character

which is one in a million storylines in a lot of movies. And it's in the nuance that really makes that story stand out for me with the characters. I think about this with a lot of maybe video game stories, maybe JRPG stories, for example. Like, do you ever think a Final Fantasy could be a good live action or TV series? - Well, I mean, they did "Crisis Core," right? - And wasn't that a, no, that wasn't a disaster. Which one was the disaster?

- The 3D one. - The 3D one, right? - Yeah, that one was horrible. - There's one that literally like bankrupted "Square Soft." - "Kings Slave"? - Might've been, right after "Seven", it was right after "Seven". - Oh no, yeah, that's "Crisis Core", yeah. - The original "Seven". - Yeah, 'cause- - Is it "Crisis Core"? - No, I think I'm talking about a different one. - Shit, which, oh, "Advent Children".

- No, no, way before, way before. - No, no, no, there was one. What is Crisis Core again? - That's a new one. So after the success of Seven, he wanted to, the guy who doesn't work for Scruffs anymore, wanted to make a movie, really wanted to make a movie based on like, I think, not Final Fantasy VII, just one of the Final Fantasy, yeah. - Yeah. - Oh, Sakaguchi. - Wanted to make a Hollywood 3D film.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen that one. - What? I've never heard of this. - That one sucked. Can you search up Final Fantasy movies? - I've never heard of this. - Nearly bankrupted, like even after the huge success of Seven and the Eighth. - But its big selling point was at the time it had like some of the best 3D graphics that could come out. And it really sucked from what I remember. - Spirits Within, that's it. Yeah. - How much did it cost? - What? I've never seen this. - 'Cause it was a bomb, it bombed.

- And it's basically, if I'm not mistaken, it's basically what caused Squaresoft to merge with- - With Enix. - Yeah. - Really? - 'Cause they had lost so much money making this film. - Oh my God, I have to watch this. - Wait, look how much it cost. - It was the first photo realistic computer animated feature film and the most expensive video game inspired film

until the release of "Prince of Persia" 2010. - $205 million in 2001. - Alec Baldwin's in this movie? - Yeah. - And Steve Buscemi? - Yeah. - The fuck? How have I never, and Ving Rhames? How have I never heard of this film? - 'Cause it sucked. - It sucked. - I have to watch this. - So they lost $115, no, $120 million on this film.

- Oh my God. - Which pretty much just like fucked Square. - Damn. - Yeah, and also aside from this one, every other Final Fantasy film or TV series I've seen has always been like something adjacent to that story. I never felt like a standalone product. Like Advent Children that kind of just felt like here's this add-on story that's kind of fan service. - This is why Sakaguchi left, I'm pretty sure. He left Square.

- I mean, that makes sense, I guess. - Yeah, I mean, he was like, you know, it was like a, I mean, if you- - I was directed by Slugaboochie, oh damn. - Yeah, and his story. - Shit. - Yeah. - He's doing good though. - He's doing good now. - He's doing good. - Well, he left, right? And then made his own game company and then made- - Yeah, the Apple store game thing. - Made, yeah, JRPG games. And I think he made two games that came out. One of them was Blue Dragon.

- Oh shit. - Which is the terrible JRPG. And he made some other really fan favorite game, 'cause his studio was making exclusive games to Xbox 360. - Right, right. - JRPG games. It was some other game that was really popular but underrated. I forgot what it's called. Maybe click on his name. - Go to Sakaguchi's Wikipedia. - They made two games that were really popular. Two games that came out, one of them was "Blue Dragon" and another one was really popular.

and they made a game studio. - Terrible. - Lost Odyssey. - Lost Odyssey. - Lost Odyssey. - Which is like, everyone says like one of the most underrated JRPGs of all time. - He also apparently worked on Kingdom Hearts as well. - Yeah, Mistwalker, Mistwalker Games. Yeah, he made Mistwalker Games and now I think they mostly make mobile games now.

- Right. - If I'm not mistaken. I think some RPGs though, I'm not sure though. - Damn. - That's 'cause mobile games make money. - Yeah. - Did they make the Nier game? Am I? - No. - No. - No, sorry, the Nier mobile game, I meant. - No, no, no. - No. - No, no, no, as in like did Mistwalker, could you go to the studio? - Go up to Mistwalker games? - I swear they made some IP game for mobile, yeah. - The IP made, the recent one is Fantasian.

- Yeah. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, I don't see, I didn't see any. - Fantasia, Terabat. - Oh, okay, sorry, that looks like. - Okay, to be fair, I can see. - That's my bad, I thought it was a Nier game. - That is gender-bent 2B. - Dude, what the fuck? That looks exactly like it. I can't believe I thought they made a Nier game. - It's like, "Shut up, son, we have 2B at home." That's literally 2B at home, bro, what the hell? Dude, Nobuo Matsu did the music for it as well, goddamn.

- Okay, all right. - I don't know why I know all this. - Yeah, this is just some random knowledge. - How do you know more about square law than I do? - I find game law very interesting and how it all works out. - This isn't even game law, this is just game company law. - Game dev law. - Well, I mean, I think if you can understand the law, you can understand how we get games that we get, right? So I think that's why I like it. - Yeah, that's true, that's true. - And also I think it's just interesting that

- They let him spend $205 million on a movie. I can't believe they let him do that. - I think at the time it was just more of like, you know, this was a technical, it was a technical marvel at the time because I remember watching it and I watched it solely because

it just looked incredible from a CG perspective. - You watched it? - Yeah, I watched it. I watched it. I need to watch it. - Well, I mean, they just come off the back of the most expensive game of all time, which is Final Fantasy VII, which ended up absolutely crushing it. So I'm sure when he went, "Guys, let's do it again, but with a movie." They were like,

- Why not? - This man can do no wrong. - Why not? - And then obviously it didn't go so well. Probably because when you realize, like when you look at a Final Fantasy story,

- You could say it's a good story, but you can't say it's a clean story. They never are. They are very messy stories. - That's just 90% of JRPGs in general. - And I think when you try to boil that down to a movie, you inherently need a clean story. Like you can't have this fluff. - Is there a single good JRPG adaptation of like anime or films or anything? - The latest "Dragon Quest" movie was pretty good.

- Was it a Dragon Quest movie? - I did not know there was a Dragon Quest movie. - The new animated Dragon Quest movie, that one was surprisingly good. - To be fair, I think an animated Dragon Quest movie could do good. 'Cause I mean, Dragon Quest basically like, there's no crazy world ending story all the time. - Yeah, your story. - I feel like the less- - That was surprisingly good. - I feel like the less convoluted the lore and the story, the more likely you are to get a good adaptation. - Yeah, I think, for example, like Final Fantasy VII, I think is a great story.

but also if you start looking too closely, you see the cracks and then they're patching with crisis core and Advent children. You're like, wait, yeah, we can put some chalk in these cracks. And it's like, okay, the story is,

- It's not bad, but you have to admit it's like, this is a fucking mess. - Best Final Fantasy ever made, right guys? - It's a mess, it is a mess. - That's what all the Final Fantasy fans say. - And I think that there's like, it's just tough to adapt that. I think like, what a daunting thing. - Even with something like the Persona 5 anime as well, which unlike Persona 4 got a full like TV series,

- It was just like- - It was aight. - It was aight. It was aight. - I was excited and then I watched it and I was like, oh, all right. I'd rather play the game. - I think I'd rather just replay the game. - Exactly, right? Exactly. So I'm trying to think if there is a single good JRPG adaptation that I did enjoy thoroughly. - Have we ever had even in the history of video game adaptations had an adaptation of, it doesn't even have to be live action, that was just as good if not better?

- Have we even had that yet as an example? - Probably "Last of Us", I would say. "Last of Us" is one of the best. - "Arcane". - Hell yeah. - I walked right into that one. - Hell yeah. - When's it coming out, June? I'm so pumped. - It's end of this year, end of this year. - Fuck. - Yeah. - Wait, what's the release date of "Arcane" season two? - It's December, right? - It's Q4. - You know I'm dying to know. - It's Q4, it's Q4. - Oh, don't tell me that. - I swear to God. - I swear it was like June.

- Come on, roll the dice. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, Q4, yeah. November, close enough. - So pumped for that. - Close enough. - So pumped. - That's the best video game adaptation. - So fucking pumped for that. - You're so right. - Sure. - How was the Twitch awards this year, by the way? - Twitch awards? - Sorry, the streamer awards. - Yeah, it was good. I was gone for a total, if you count flight time, I was gone for a hundred hours. Actually, I calculated it was like a hundred hours. I did like a speed run of LA. It was fun.

- Got nominated for two awards, didn't win. - That's unfortunate. - Lost to Ludwig, one of them, bastard. And then obviously, do you guys know who KSO and Jinxy are? Do you guys know? - I have heard of Jinxy. I've heard of Jinxy, I have not heard of him. - What do you know about? - That he streamed to like one viewer for a full year until he suddenly blew up or something. - So when I landed in LA, we went to Ludwig's house room

we were just like browsing Twitch, it was the evening. And he had 200,000 people watching him play Fall Guys, like poorly cropped. Like it wasn't even the stream wasn't even set up good. And there's 200,000 people watching him play Fall Guys. - So why did this guy blow up?

- That's a great question. I don't know. - Yeah, right? 'Cause like- - I'm not trying to like, this is not to me 'cause I know, you know. - No, it's not like a jabbering thing. - Yeah, I actually don't know. - It's genuinely, the more I read up about this guy, the more I don't understand. - I think it's a mixture of like,

TikTok as well as like the perfect storm of collaborations going around. So I think like he started getting noticed from other people and then he's getting all these amazing collabs and he's doing some really cool stuff. And his energy is very similar to that of, he's very energetic. I'll say that. Like very animated. - I feel like it's like the number one ingredients of you being on Twitch nowadays. - You feel, you feel, you suddenly feel older?

- Yeah, dude, I mean, he's like 22.

I feel old when I do certain things and I see how he, the energy. You realize that when you get to a certain age, it's just cringe to give a certain amount of energy to stuff. You know what I mean? - Sure. - Maybe that's just British, but yeah. - No, I think in general- - No, I think that's like an age thing. - I get you, I get you. - I obviously have my moments where I'm pretty animated or I get excited about stuff. But I think if I'm like,

every single little thing, I'm like, oh my God, oh my God, geez, what the fuck? This is, you know, like it's kind of a lot, you know?

And I think it's hard. It makes me feel old when I watch this style and I'm like, I can't do this. Like I just can't. - Well, it's kind of like the kind of like the I show speed kind of generation, I would say, which is like a new generation of viewers for, you know, content and live streaming that is not like- - But they're funny. Like I watched them and they're funny, but I can't do that. - Yeah. - Well, you do what you're capable of doing for your age and your-

- Content brands. - I was watching it with Squeaks who's like, I don't know how old Squeaks is actually, but Squeaks is definitely older than me. We were laughing, it was funny. Like watching these two grown men play Fall Guys, getting really angry and getting stream sniped a bunch was just funny. Like it was good content, but...

something that I can't do, like you mentioned, like getting, when you get older, you're like, I just can't bring this energy towards everything. - Well, I had this moment where I thought, you know, okay, so,

we're on the internet, there's always like new words and new slang, you know, it keeps cropping up. But there is a point you've reached where you hear a new word and you're like, can I still get away with saying this word without being cringe? - Like what? - Huh? - What's the newest example you've learned? - Okay, so there are some words that I think are like on the borderline where I'm like,

I'm like, I still can get away with it, but it's not like the coolest if I said, which is, you know, a word like Riz, for example. - You said Riz? - Yeah, yeah. - What's wrong with the word Riz? - There's nothing wrong with it. It's just like, you know, if your dad said Riz, how would you react? - I wouldn't be happy. - I would like- - Exactly, exactly, exactly. So right now I think like we're on the cusp of being like, we can still get away with Riz. Can you get away with saying Zaddy?

- No. - First of all, I've never even heard of that word. - Exactly, Joey. - Wait, could you repeat that? Could you repeat that? - What is zaddy? - Zaddy? - What the fuck is zaddy? - Okay, so the reason I know about- - Is this stemmed off like ZAM? - I have no idea. Okay, so the reason I know about this, right? Which, 'cause there is like,

there's like Riz and Giat and like, oh, you know, there's like that level. And then there's like even like deeper level where like even like the iPad kids, that's what they're using right now. And you know, this is like what Gen Z can kind of get away with now.

But Zaddy is basically, I think an attractive older gentlemen, basically. - Is that not just called a dilf? - Yeah, or daddy. - Or just, I don't know, daddy? - It's Zaddy now. - So what's the Zed? - I have no idea. Okay, the reason I know this, right, is 'cause I was talking to a friend

And he's around, he's like kind of like my age, right? And he was like, you know, you get into that age where you have to be really conscious about, you know, he's still single and he still like goes on Tinder dates and everything. And he was like, yeah, I'm getting to the age where, you know, I really start to being conscious about age gaps. Like what age gap am I comfortable with? 'Cause he went on a date, so he's like my age and he went on a date with someone in like their,

early twenties. So it was around about like an eight year-ish age gap, which, you know, it's kind of like, if I was still single, I think like eight years, that's a lot, but maybe, maybe that would be like, you know, maybe that'll be something that I'd be comfortable with. And apparently he went on this date and he was like, we got along so well, good chemistry. And you know, we were gonna set up a second date. And then she called me zaddy.

- I think regardless of age gap, that's just weird. - Instant red flag. - She called me zaddy and he just told me, I just couldn't. That was it, that was the deal breaker. - So just wait, hold on. Can we look, I'm afraid to look it up, but can we look up what zaddy means? - Yeah, can we make sure we're getting the right intel here? - What is a zaddy?

- Zaddy, a sexually attractive man, especially an older one who is fashionable or charismatic. That's just the daddy. Where does Zaddy come from?

- What's the difference between a daddy and a zaddy? While a daddy is an attractive older man, a zaddy is a man with swag who is attractive and also fashionable. - Oh, it's from a song, I guess, or some kind of song. - Is it a song? - It appears that it has less to do with age. Zayn Malik, previously of One Direction, is a popular zaddy. Ryan Reynolds is also likely a zaddy. - Likely? What is it, like there's some kind of committee here?

- There's like the zaddy committee. - Well, I mean, yeah, there's just words that you shouldn't be saying. - Yeah. - Yikes. - Yeah. - That's weird. - I hate it. - Yeah. - But I say this now in like six months from now, I'm probably gonna start like, yeah, I'm gonna, you start using it ironically. - You're gonna cut any vocab when you get 30?

- Are you hard outing on any words? You're like, can't say this anymore. Can't dab anymore, I just gotta go. - I mean, I gave up on dabbing a long time ago. I out dabbed myself in 2016. - I don't know. - I feel like the secret is, right? Maybe all the shit was always cringe, but we could get away with it because we were young and you were- - I think that's exactly what it is. - It's how you believe in it. Do you believe in the product? Like when you say it, do you believe in the delivery?

- What do you mean? - Like when you say zaddy, you said it in the right, if you said it with like, with purpose, I might not think anything of it. - With purpose? - I might think like, yeah, it's a little weird. - In what context would you use the word zaddy with purpose? - What if he goes down?

- Like you look at a picture of Ryan Reynolds. - Soaker's a zaddy, bro. - Low key zaddy energy right there. - With that chin, what a zaddy. If God had just said it like low key and not made a big deal about it, I might not pay much mind to it. - He's a daddy, but he mused, so he's a zaddy. - Well, you know.

I guess the point being of all of this. Yeah, and then obviously one of the other awards, Best Variety Streamer, which we nominated two years in a row now. Lost it again. One year, maybe the three-peat. Lost it to, to be fair, very well-deserved. Another big streamer came around at the same time, his name is called Queso, who's a very similar style, very energetic.

- Well now you know what to do for next year, right? - Get big on TikTok. - Say zaddy. - Say zaddy and take some Adderall. - I was gonna go regardless 'cause I just thought it's really fun to hang out with everyone 'cause it's like the only like event really where every like streamer goes to. There's no other event that I can think of where

all streamers come out for it globally. So there's a bunch of like Spanish creators that came, bunch of Brazilian creators that came. So that was really cool getting to talk to them.

- No drama this year? - No, no. - No one tried to chuck a fucking whatever in the pool or whatever happened last year? - Last year there was some pool incidents going on. This year, not much. I hosted, I was one third of the red carpet hosts. So I got to interview people and that was really fun and a great time. And that was great. Like I love hosting. I love doing hosting stuff 'cause I feel like I'm good at yapping.

I'm good at talking. - Well, you are a streamer. I feel like every streamer is good at yapping. - Okay, put some respect on my name, Garnt, okay? I do it different. - No, we mean that with the most sincere of compliments. - I think the three of us being on a podcast, we can- - We're good yappers. - We won't shut the fuck up. You can't pay us to stop talking. - We're 200 deep.

- And so getting the, 'cause I think like talking to your stream is a different beast to having to talk to other people you might not know on camera. - I've noticed that about streamers as well. - They're bad. A lot of streamers are bad at talking to like,

I think that it, you know, and I think we have a lot of experience luckily from doing this and from other stuff that we've done doing our live shows. I think we undersell ourselves, I think our like ability to talk and hold the conversation. Most importantly, I think what a lot of people

don't appreciate that I think that we try to do is that we, you know, when we do talk, we try to make it a well-paced conversation. We obviously interrupt each other. Me, I'm no stranger to that. - Yeah, you mostly. - But I think we're pretty good at the flow of a conversation. I feel like we understand that inherently and I think that's why we've been around for 200 episodes. Not to pat myself on the back, but I think we're good at it. Like I can open a Trash Taste and find myself being like, why am I listening to, why the fuck am I listening to Trash Taste?

I'll open it in like 10 minutes. - I know this is a banger. - No, but like I'll forget that I'm listening to it 'cause sometimes I'm like, man, yeah, we're just, we could have thrown it back. - Sometimes I encounter our YouTube shorts and I'm just like, I'm just, I like, one of us makes a point, I'm like, God,

Damn, that's a good point actually. I don't remember saying this, but that was a good point. - 'Cause sometimes I wanna remember what we've talked about. 'Cause I often just, the moment we finished recording, I'm like, it's gone. It's gone in my memory. Anyway, so the point being is that I think that like,

I was having all this experience. I think it really lends well to like when we have to talk to someone, especially the interviews in the red carpet, it's like, I need to have this one man podcast with this person and like hit all the notes and go through it in five minutes and have a good flow to it. - You just got the zaddy riz bro. - I don't have the zaddy riz. I'd like to think that maybe in 10 years I can age gracefully. We'll see if I get there. I should probably cut down on the beer if I'm gonna make it there.

- You're on the Zaddy diet. - I'm so moisturizing every day now. I moisturize. - You moisturize? - It's honestly helped with my bags. I think I have like less bags. - Really? - I certainly don't get- - Moisturize my eyes. That's pretty much it. - Well, I just put the sunscreen on every day. It's moisturizing sunscreen. Put it on every day. It's great. It was awesome. - That's why you're so white. - That's why, man. Honestly, it's good. Just start doing it, guys. Just moisturize. Take care of your skin. - Have you ever tried to tan?

- No, I don't dare. - I would love to see just once what the result is. - I would love to see. - I can't imagine you like a crispy Connor. - No, no, no. - That would bring the zaddy energy just like. - No, I don't wanna be a zaddy. I just wanna age gracefully. I'd like to have- - Is that not a zaddy? - Well, not necessarily. - It's an older gentleman with ribs. Oh no, sorry, with swag. - I don't wanna have swag. I just wanna look okay. - Oh, so you just wanna be a daddy.

- No, well, no, I just wanna be chill. - If we go by definition, if you don't want the swag but you wanna be an attractive older male, then you'd be a daddy. - I suppose so. Anyway, so. - Come on, man, give up the times. - Did the red carpets, that was fun. I filmed a video with Ludwig, which I can't wait to show you guys about later on. Can't talk about it now though. And then ate a lot of fast food and then left. I went to a smash tournament as well. My very first smash tournament. - How did it smell?

- Did it meet the hype? - I'm curious, I've never been to a Smash tournament. - So obviously that was like the one thing that I thought I was like, I wanted to see if it's as bad as everyone says it was. And obviously when you have, I don't know how many people were at that venue, but it was like a 2000, 3000 person venue.

And every seat was full. So there was a musk, but it wasn't as bad as like- - What's worse, AX or- - AX is way worse. - Oh really? - Oh shit. - And that venue hall is way bigger than AX. - Oh damn. - But the Smash Bros get too bad of a rep. I'm sure some of those, like the tournament areas, 'cause I went to the top eight. So we went to the top eight showing. - Right. - 'Cause Ludwig had two of his,

of e-sports members competing. So we went, that was fun. And the first thing I kept note of, I was like, does it smell? It doesn't smell that bad. It's not bad at all. The first thing that I was surprised by was that we walk in and obviously Ludwig's doing his thing. He's just so chill all the time. And some guy comes out, he's like, "Yep, come on, come on Ludwig, let's go. Let's go to your seats." Literally front row, middle seats. And I'm like, why?

Why? These are wasted on me. Why? I don't deserve. - Yeah, we've seen your performance on Smash Bros. - But I feel bad 'cause I'm like, man, there's so many fans here and I feel bad that we rocked up and just get the front row. And then Ludwig leaves me and I'm just waiting there alone. And then they snap this pic. Did you see this pic? - Yeah, I saw the pic. - Is there a pic of me on my phone?

- 'Cause I'm also trying to figure out who all these players are. 'Cause I only know about Lathan and Amsa, who's this Japanese guy. And they're the only two players I know. And I'm trying to learn more about the other players 'cause the first game was none of those players, I believe. And I was trying to look them up and there's this photo. If you go to Genesis Twitter, type in Genesis Smash Twitter.

there's this photo of me on my phone while everyone else is super like arms in the air excited. If you just go like media, like click that media and then you might wanna, okay, nevermind, I'll just scroll down. Just scroll down until you see a photo of like the crowd. All right, look at this. So this is pic, right? Look at how insanely packed that is. And look at me in the front on my phone. - Everyone's like, yeah, let's go. - Did they tell you you were taking a pic? - No, they didn't fucking tell me.

- So like, and the problem is as well is that, so during this event, I had about three hours of sleep, incredibly hungover, had to fly to San Francisco, then drive to San Jose after doing this video shoot with Ludwig. And then I'm actually struggling to just stay awake. And so there's another pick later on where everyone's also pumped and I'm like this.

- I think I've seen that one. Yeah, I saw that one. - But one thing I will say is that my God, the atmosphere is insane. - Oh, I bet. - It is the closest thing in America I've ever been to or seen sporting wise to English football. - That's why I love the fighting game community. They just seem to have such a fun atmosphere. - Well, it was like halfway through, there'd be like a, you know, 'cause I,

I was also getting crash courses in Smash whilst I'm doing this. 'Cause people in the behind me are going, "Oh man, that's so cringe, you should have up tilted right there." Like that. People were like commentating, stuff like that. And I'm trying to like, I know some of these words 'cause I've watched a lot of videos about Smash 'cause I find the stories very interesting.

but I don't know enough to know like when it was cringe that they failed a block or something. - Perfect pivot up tilt to attack. - Sometimes they would like be moving really fast and everyone would go, "Oh." And I'd be like, "What happened?" Like I didn't get it. And so I would have a Toise, a French guy, a streamer, a smash expert tell me about stuff. And then I also had the guy in red there who was also telling me stuff about it. Giving me lore, everyone was very helpful.

So like there was, cause obviously, you know, Nintendo is very like lawsuit happy. They stopped Smash tournaments from being allowed to pause the Pokemon stadium stage. Did you know this? The Pokemon stadium stage transforms into different like,

- Yeah, I remember. - And they used to have a mod to pause it. And that was what it used to be for years in Smash, but then now they had to remove that and they had to let the stage change per Nintendo's request. So there was an occasional moment where people would just start chanting, "Fuck Nintendo."

Fuck Nintendo. It's like really good. And then whenever the Kirby's Dreamland came on, everyone would start clapping the theme. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then there would be people who were trying to clap them off rhythm to stop them from clapping.

So it was really fun seeing these two factions interact. - You're talking about like the gourmet race theme. - They're like, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. They won't start clapping, but then people would go like, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. And it was really funny 'cause they were explaining to me, they were like, yeah, there's a whole thing in the community for years now. People are trying to stop. People are trying to, people think it's,

it's cringe to clap. So there's a faction of clappers that clap off beat to throw the clappers, like to make sure they can't clap. And I was like, what the fuck? And then also the other thing that surprised me was the sheer amount of gambling. Everyone was gambling.

Everyone, there was dudes going around going, "I got 20 on laughing. Who wants 20 on laughing? 20 on laughing." Like soliciting bets. They were like looking for someone to take the bet with them. And so people go, "I'll do it. I'll do 20 on laughing." And then when the match would come over, he'd come back over this guy, be like, "Give me the 20." And like, I would see dudes betting with like 10 dudes. They would go like, "Yeah, what do you want? Okay, I got this. What do you got? What do you got this?"

And it was all anyone was talking about. When I went to the toilet, I was waiting in line and everyone was going, "Yeah, I lost a hundred bucks. Yeah, I lost 50 on this guy." - For a lot of people that's like their side hustle. - Yeah. - I think people want some people hustling. - Going around a smash tournament and just like initiating bets. - There's no like, it's not like it's a bookie or anything. There's no bookie. It's literally just a dude going, "I feel like this guy's gonna win even though he's not the favorite."

and then they would just bet. - I feel like it's also part of the culture as well. - 100%. - Just like money matches. I feel like it just is a natural evolution of let's say the friendly toxicity of the fighting game community. - I think betting in the US is legal as long as there's not a third party making money. Like if it's between you and me in America, we could make any bet, wager. - Yeah.

I think that's, I don't know. I think that's the legality of it. But either way, I've never seen quite so much gambling. It was very impressive. I was like, wow, this is incredible. - That sounds hype. - And it was just a great event. Like I was, what a cool one. And they told me that this is the biggest smash event. I was told that this was the- - Yeah, it looks pretty big. - The event. - Oh, sure. - I mean, it was crazy, yeah. Lot of Trash Taste fans. Lot of Trash Taste fans.

I got a lot of people being like, "What the fuck are you doing here? Oh my God, I watch Trash Taste." - I saw that Patreon video, you were shit. - Yeah, I'm bad. - Yeah. - So shout out to all the Smash fans that are also Trash Taste fans. I appreciate you guys. You guys got a good thing going. Yeah, the fighting game community seems like a riot. - Would you ever go to the Evo?

- I don't know, I feel like I need a guide. Like I need someone to guide me. I need like a person- - I wanna go just for the atmosphere, but- - Dude, it's crazy. It is crazy. It would be kind of hype. Evo's in Vegas? - Yeah. - But they don't have Smash. And I feel like the Smash community is- - Do they not have Smash? - No, I don't think they have Smash anymore. - I don't think anymore. - Not Melee at least. Melee seems to be the- - I still like Guilty Gear and shit now, right?

- Yeah. - I think. - Yeah. - Yeah. Well, I thought I had like the newest smashes, but. - It's cool just hearing all the lore. Like they were giving me breakdowns of the lore. Like obviously Laffan is like crazy. I mean, he, like what was it? Last Evo, he won two different fighting games. - Damn. - He chirps on Twitter though.

He says he talks mad shit on Twitter all the time, but I guess after he won two different fighting game Evos the same year, everyone's like, "He's kind of the goat though." It's kind of goat behavior. - Fair enough. - He won, I think it was like Guilty Gear.

- Street Fighter VI, Tekken, Granblue Fantasy Versus, Mortal Kombat 1, Guilty Gear Strive, King of Fighters, Street Fighter III. - Which ones did Laughin' win? He won two, two different, complete different fighting games, which I think is insane. - Guilty Gear Strive and Smash, no. - Oh, so he won Melee and- - Melee and Guilty Gear Strive. - Wait, no, this is, oh yeah, I guess so.

I think, yeah, I don't know. Either way, I think it's just insane behavior to be that good at two different games. So I think that's why I was like, wow. - Yeah, 'cause the amount of practice you need to get to to be in the pro stages of a single game takes up most pro players' life. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - Just dedicating themselves to one game. - And even then they can't make it to the top sometimes. - Yeah. - But even then,

- Top eight, that still doesn't mean you're making like great money. - Yeah. - You know, you're still- - How big is like the fighting game community in terms of the- - Price pools? - Economy? Yeah, price pools. - Not great. - It's not- - Melee's not great. I think the other ones are a little better, but I know, I mean, Nintendo has basically made it impossible. - How much money do you make if you win Evo?

- Let's have a look. Let's type in Evo prize pool. - Evo prize pool. - Evo prize pool. - I don't think it's an incredible amount. 'Cause I think you, you know, how many games do you have to provide prize pools for? - That's 25K. - 25K. - Wow. - Excluding Street Fighter VI which featured a prize pool of 70K. - I mean, that's like for being the best in the world or something. - Yeah. - It's not a lot. - Like that's, that's.

- And that's why all of them have like sponsorships and they have to stream. Like a lot of them have to stream. - They don't do it for the money Connor, they do it for the love. - I think they absolutely do. - I think that's right actually, Joey. - But the love of the game doesn't put food on the table, Joey. You know what I mean? Like I love TFT, but I'm not putting money on the table for it. You know what I mean? - It's all right, they can do Twitch streams in the meantime. - Yeah. - But that's the sad thing, right? You have to be like a content creator if you also wanna make money. - True.

- I think that's less than the league salary minimum that every player- - Yeah, what's the league salary minimum? Like the agreed upon like franchise structure. Which I think, I hate franchise structures. - I do as well. - God, it's so boring. - I am here supporting the Premier League with, you know- - It's the Premier League, the biggest, most wealthiest sports league in the world.

can get by with a relegation and promotion model. I feel like they have no excuse. - Between 2017 and 2019, the average salary in League of Legends North America League jumped from 107,000 to 3,000. By 2021, that number reached 410,000. - Yeah, for like just salary. - Motherfuckers are making half a mil salary. - I think that's higher than like a cardiologist.

- Yeah. - Like cardiologists, which I'm not, okay listen, we are YouTubers and like Twitch streamers. We cannot talk about who should be making more money. That's like, we're trying to emphasize the difference in money between e-sports. Like that's crazy.

I think if you're a top player of League of Legends, you probably do deserve- - Oh no, cardiologists, physicians make more money in the States. - I think you should be on six figures if you are the best of something in the world. Like if you're in the top competitive league, there's sponsors. Like I think that is what you should be getting. - I just thought the fighting game community was more popular, I guess. I'm surprised about those numbers. - I mean, I think it is popular. I just think that, I mean, I don't know.

- I don't know. - Where's all that money going? - I don't know where fighting games sit in terms of the industry, but maybe it's the fan base 'cause the fan base is so loud, I thought it was more popular. - Maybe it's a small yet really loud fan base. - This is something we should have Lodd doing on for 'cause I think he actually just knows better than most the actual finances of how all these things, 'cause he throws fighting games.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - So I think actually he would be able to answer this question very well. And something that I don't think any of us can answer very well at all. - I have no idea. - I do however think that if more, like if League of Legends had promotion and relegation, that'd be so fucking hype. - I think it used to.

- Did it really? - Yeah, at least the European league used to. And then it changed to a franchised. - It's 'cause all the companies are like, "Well, we wanna ensure our money is going somewhere." It's like, "Well, no." How about you ensure that it's fun and it'd be more hype? - Well, it's 'cause it's based on the North American leagues. - Which is terrible, 'cause the Overwatch did it and it's fucking awful. And I think that's also the most boring aspect of American sports. - Well, American football does it. - Yeah, it's the franchise model.

- I'm not a fan personally. I grew up with the Premier League and just European football in general. I think that's way more exciting to have promotion and relegation. - Yeah, and also like the teams don't fucking mean anything. Like if you could be like the, some American football teams are like the Oakland Raiders and they're not, and they, or whatever, I can't remember who they are. There's like teams that are, they have the name of a place and they're not even in that place.

which is like a sin to do in Europe, which I think- - Is that true? - Yeah. - Really? I did not know that. - 'Cause I think it was Wimbledon or some British team tried to do this and the fans got pissed.

- Are you talking about American football or the Overwatch League? - American football. - Okay. - Which American football team moved location? - I feel like that's not true, but I don't know. - This is true. - I feel like that's not true. - One of them moved to Vegas. Yeah, which, yeah. - The Oakland Raiders. - Yeah, the Oakland Raiders. Oakland, California moved to Las Vegas.

which is like, and it's still called the Oakland Raiders. - Well, the Vegas Raiders, actually, no, that sounds pretty all right. - The Vegas Raiders, that sounds all right. - This is like a sin in football to do this, normal football. This is like a, you can't do this. This is like the number one way to absolutely lose your fans. Because I think which football team, can you Google it? Which premier league team moved

or like moved location. I think it was Wimbledon or something. I can't remember what it was. - No, I think in terms of, I can't think of a Premier League team that has relocated to a different city.

- Arsenal moved from Woolwich in South London to Highbury in North London in 1913. - Yeah, but that's London to London. That's London to London. - There was one team that did, but this is a thing you just cannot do. Because I think the cultural aspect of football is so deep in the UK, where the team is part of the local identity. - But I feel that way for America as well. You go to Wisconsin and- - I don't think it's-

- Bro, you go to Wisconsin and they have three things they talk about, cheese, beer and the fucking Packers, man. It is a religion over there.

And it is definitely part of a lot of Wisconsinites identity. So I definitely feel that maybe more, maybe a lot in the Midwest. I'm not sure how it is. - That's football country. - Yeah. - But I think it like the fact that this does happen. I think it's also happened before as well. I could be wrong though.

just goes to show the different- - Well, 'cause it's weird 'cause like- - I didn't know you could do that. - Like football teams and like sports teams are a business, but you know, even growing up in the UK, it never felt like a business. I didn't understand that part of the side of things where, oh, they have to make money as well. I more thought of it as- - They're doing it for the love of the sport. - Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. They're doing it for the love of the sport, baby. They just wanna win to get some local pride in them.

And it's only recently have I realized, oh, okay, there is the business side of things that- They gotta pay taxes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, some of the best stories in football are from all the weird stuff that can happen. I mean, obviously like, what was it? Was it Leicester City won that one year? Leicester City won as well. Which they won out of nowhere when they promoted. And it's so weird for me as well because-

Brighton, the football team is like a really, really good fucking team now. It's they're like, I think fifth or sixth or something in the premier league, which is insane to me because

Every time I say I'm a football fan of like, Arsenal, everyone's like, "Oh, why aren't you a fan of Brighton?" And Brighton was like my- - Brighton wasn't a team. - Brighton was my local team that was like a fucking League Two team when I was growing up. So now I just look like a fake fan because I'm like, "Oh, I mean." - Betrayed. - My geographically closest team to me growing up was fucking Wrexham. Look what's going on now. What the fuck?

This is completely out of my field. - That's the one where Ryan Reynolds bought the football team in Wales. And you, did you know this? - No. - Did you know about this? - Bro, I know close to zero about soccer. - Have you ever watched a Super Bowl? - Yeah, I watched it once and I was like, it was kind of boring. - It's so boring, so boring. - I think NFL is a sport, it's kind of boring to watch. - I think it's fun if,

- It's the ad breaks. The ad breaks just kill the mood for me a lot. It was funny 'cause I watched this Super Bowl 'cause I had Sydney's family over come visit and it was like the Taylor Swift Bowl. I think I saw more shots of Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl than any of the actual players. - Well, that's why I was the most viewed one of all time. - Is it actually? - Yes. Of course it is, Garnt. - Our society's doomed. - Taylor Swift could mobilize an army tomorrow.

- If Taylor Swift was like enlist, the US Marines would- - If Taylor was like, I need to buy this land and make Swift land, a certified country, the government would be like, by all means, Taylor, go for it. Support the economy. - The fact that Trump came out with a tweet being like preemptively, 'cause he felt that Taylor Swift was gonna be like vote for Biden. He made this tweet that was so weird and cringe. It was like,

"Thanks to me, Taylor was allowed to get her album "and get all the rights to the bill I signed." It was just out of nowhere. He was like, "Yeah, I signed this." It was weird. It was like, are you that afraid of Taylor Swift saying something? That's fucked.

Like that just goes to show how fucking powerful her influence is. - I think a couple of weeks ago, was it last week? I forgot what it was, but she did her first couple of shows in Australia. And she did one of the shows in Melbourne, which was the biggest show that she's done on her entire tour in terms of like capacity. I think it was like, she did it at the MCG, I think, which is like 200,000 people. And apparently that weekend,

the Victorian economy went up by like 15% or something insane like that. Like it did such an amazing push for the local economy that like Melbourne was like rich momentarily while she was in town. - I've heard that her concerts have the same effect as a Superbowl taking place in that city, which, you know, it's crazy to think. - Cool. - Yeah. - Fucking nuts. - I got in this fucking argument with Sydney

- Oh God. - Oh yeah, 'cause you went to the concert, didn't you? - Actually, I couldn't go in the end 'cause I thought we had more tickets than we did. - Oh damn. - 'Cause it was lottery system. - Did you want to go? - Huh? - Did you want to go? - I didn't actually wanna go. - Really? - I just wanna see. - Are you on a 50? - I just wanna see what the hype is. - If I got tickets, I'd go. I just wanna see the energy. I bet it'd be fucking unhinged.

- Yeah, unfortunately we thought we had four tickets, but it turned out we had two. So I was like, I'm not gonna take it away from Sydney and her mom. So I'm gonna give it to them. Funny thing actually, Sydney's mom was just at a bar, full out, geared out, like just Swifty merch, right?

she gets approached by this journalist who's like, "Oh, I'm doing an article about Swifties. "Can I do an interview?" And her mom's like, "Sure." Me or Sydney were not with her, by the way. And then he does his interview with this big Taylor Swift fan that he saw in a random bar. Looks at her second name and is like,

"Do you have a daughter?" - No way. - And she's like, "Yeah, yeah, I do have a daughter."

I think I've interviewed your daughter for the Tokyo Weekender. - That's funny. - Oh, damn. - And yeah, now, because it's funny. - I saw it this morning or the other day, it was posted, right? - Yeah, it was Japan. She has an article in the Japan Times. Now, the Ponywaz family cannot be stopped. They now have an article in the Tokyo Weekender. - Two generations. - And it got published a story because on the day,

- She slipped on the stairs in our house and she like, we were like super fucking scared that she broke her arm. And we were like, oh my God, I think we need to go to the hospital. You know, we need to get stitches. And it was like the day of the Taylor Swift concert. And she was like,

patch me up, get me a bandage, but I'm making the concert. - Morphing me up, I'm going. - Take me to the hospital afterwards, I am making Taylor Swift and then you can do whatever. - Did she go to the hospital afterwards? - She magically recovered by the end of it. - I would say, I have a feeling the music healed her. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The power of Taylor Swift.

- It's like after every Shonen battle, the scars disappear. - Was it any different to an American concert or? - I mean- - I saw like articles that were like, Japanese fans think that Americans are barbaric for their behavior at Taylor Swift concerts. - I'm not wrong. - And the only reason why, this was like the, like it was a Western outlet calling

They were saying that the Japanese thought it was Bob Barrett. But actually, when I saw other stuff, it wasn't that. I think there was just some outlets that just...

that some Japanese people were quite annoyed that people were just filming everything. - Yeah. - It's normally a very, very different culture. - Yeah. - So I guess some Japanese people were annoyed that everyone was filming, but that's, you know. - But yeah, like afterwards I got in a big like debate argument with Sydney and her brother, 'cause we're our golden guy.

- You're the golden guy. - Yeah, you were the golden guy after the Swift concert. And I was like, who do you think has gotten more famous, Taylor Swift or Michael Jackson? And I thought this was like an easy answer. - Okay.

- Who do you guys think? - I think that is not an easy answer. - Is it not an easy answer? - I think, oh. - I think in terms of like- - I think a year ago, if you'd asked me this question, I would have said easily Michael Jackson. But nowadays with how fucking often you see Taylor Swift everywhere, it's hard. - It's hard to say 'cause none of us were alive at like peak Michael Jackson.

- Or we were like fucking Google guy brains. - That's like asking the question, like who accumulated more fame over time, Taylor Swift or the Beatles?

- It's difficult, right? - I think our perspective is skewed. I don't know how it felt to be a Michael Jackson fan during his peak. It might've felt like this level of intense. - I think it's Michael Jackson, easy, easy. Maybe give Taylor a little bit more time. I think Michael Jackson makes way better music. - That's not the question, Joey. - If I had to pick. - Honestly, I think Taylor Swift. I think I'd go with Taylor Swift. - Fuck off.

- No way. - It's hard man. - No fucking way, no sure. - Again, it's hard. - Too early, too early. - The level of influence she has at this point, I think is more influence than I think Michael Jackson had at his peak. - I think we won't know until we see the longevity

of Taylor Swift's like, after this world tour ends, I think it's like sometime at the end of this year. - Dude, Netflix documentaries are gonna be like 19 parts in the future with the amount of stuff we have now to cover. - Well, there's just more like media now and I feel like the world is more connected. - Yeah, that's why I feel like she's bigger. - But like, I feel like Michael Jackson was able to reach like that fame, like without having social media. And I feel like, you know, it's,

- But I also think without social media, there was less channels to get it. So when you did get it, it was more impactful because there was not many other options. - To me, okay, I'm basing this on like pure, let's say anecdotal, like a lot of like anecdotal feelings and evidence. 'Cause I don't know what the numbers are, but to me, like, you know, you go to like this rant,

I could go to this butt fuck nowhere, middle of the countryside place in Thailand, fucking barely any technology at all. And people will have cassette tapes or just have knowledge of Michael Jackson. 'Cause that was like, his music really just perpetuated

- Everywhere, globally. And Taylor Swift has done a similar thing with technology and all that things. But I feel like at the moment it's more like the newer generation, whereas MJ back at the time- - Actually, I think the reason why Taylor's so successful is that she's like generational.

I think most ages, Sydney's mom who has pretty been around 'cause Taylor's been making music for God said I'm long. I don't really like Taylor's music that much at all. I don't really listen to it, but I mean, yeah, the impact is undeniable. - You just put a target on your back. - I don't think Swifties watch Trash Taste. - And if they do,

- They're angry. - I don't think they watch trash. I mean, it's not for me. - I don't know man, knowing the Swifties, they're gonna find this episode somehow. - Not for me. - Word is that this random podcast said that they don't like Taylor Swift's music. - Well, I just think it's- - Get up. - I don't think Swiftie bands are made out to be as brain dead as people make them out to be. - Yeah. - You sure about that? - Yeah, I think so. I think so. I think if you're like, "I don't like the music that much, not for me." I don't think you should get attacked.

I don't know, man. I've seen Twitter before. - I've seen Twitter, but then I feel like it's bait. Like when I've seen people get attacked, they're baiting so hard. - You think? - Yeah, I've seen a lot of people who bait. - I thought so at first as well. And then the more evidence I've seen, the more I'm like, oh wait, maybe there are actually insane. Like, I don't know. - Well, with a fan base that big. - Not saying every Taylor Swiftie is like that, obviously, but. - Yeah, I mean, like you said, if it's a big fan base. - Who do you think is the most famous musician in the world then? - Taylor Swift. - Like of all the time? - Right, right. - Of all the time? - Of all the time? - Of all the time? - I'd say the Beatles.

- You don't have to even like the Beatles music, but you know. You don't have to even like the Beatles music, but you know who the Beatles are. - Every now and then on Twitter, that Wikipedia page of the movie Yoko made gets shared around. Have you seen it? - Yeah, I've seen it. - With the John Lennon dick. - Yeah. - Dude.

- Have you seen that movie? - No, I haven't seen it. There's a 30 minute movie that Yoko Ono made. - Yoko Ono, yeah. - Oh no, sorry. That was just his dick, John Lennon's dick. - What? - I've seen it. - And then he just comes. Yeah, this is like, type in John Lennon dick movie or something. I don't know. Well, I don't know what you type in to get this. Did you see the Wikipedia page? It's a wild read. It's a wild read.

- But while we're looking that up, right? Like I think it's still a Beatle because like, you know, when you talk about like, okay, we weren't alive during like the peak of like Michael Jackson's popularity, right? We weren't alive during like the peak of Beatlemania, right? But you've seen footage of Beatlemania. - Well, I've seen footage of like Michael Jackson concerts as well.

- Oh yeah, but like "Beatlemania" was different because it's like, they would be out in the fucking streets rioting to get a chance to see this shit. Oh yeah, "Bed Piece." - "Self Portrait" was a 1969 film made by the artist Yoko Ono, premiering at the Institute of Contemporary Arts in London in 1996. The 42 minute film gives us a single shot of her husband's John Lennon's semi erect penis.

- Hell yeah. - Just like, that shit's raw. - Yeah. - I mean, like, have you heard the music that Yoko made with John Lennon? - Nah, it's pretty bad. - It's really weird and just like esoteric. Like there's this, my favorite piece, I forgot what it was called, but it was from their like collab album. And it's just this like five, six minute audio of just Yoko and John saying each other's names.

And it's just like, Yoko, John, Yoko, John. It's literally Kaneda. - It's so weird. - It's like Naruto Sasuke. - What was going on? - It was fucking weird bro. Yoko and I was weird. - Yeah, I would say the Beatles is like in my mind on the same level as like MJ in my mind. - For sure. - I feel like Taylor Swift has the,

to get up to that level. I don't think she's there yet. - I think Taylor Swift has only been perpetuated because as you said, we're so much more of like a connected race of humans now that like you go on the internet and it's fucking impossible to avoid her now. Like every station you flip to, every like social media account you go to, someone or something is talking about Taylor Swift. - I just feel like it's a double whammy, right? Because, you know, back in the days of the Beatles

Michael Jackson, I feel like there was just a lot less competition or a lot less things going on or like to compete with it. 'Cause I feel like popularity nowadays is,

ironically enough, like a lot of, in a lot of bubbles, right? You can have like, there are some fucking like Jinxie for example, gets like 200K views on Twitch. And I did not know who he was before the streaming awards at all. Even though he was on like a different level of popularity than everything, you know,

than a lot of other streamers. I had not heard of him because I'm in my own bubble of popularity about what I get shown and what I get seen. I believe that Taylor is one of the few people that has like perpetuated many, many bubbles online. But I feel like there is still a lot of people, a lot of people around the world that might not have had the same exposure that

a lot of the Western world would have in my, you know, talking about global popularity. - Fair enough. - And when I think about the Beatles and when I think about

like Michael Jackson, that is fucking global popularity. - I think it's the difference between like commercial success, which I think Taylor has definitely got over people like MJ and the Beatles. But then there's the other form of fame, which is like the notoriety. It's like how many people even know who you are? - Exactly. - There must be a way to quantify this. Some big brain scientists must be able to quantify

- Like, okay, here's an interesting question. - Relevancy. - Who do you think's name is more known around the world right now? Taylor Swift or Elvis Presley? - Taylor Swift, bro, 100%. - You think? - 100%.

- Again, you don't have to like Elvis' music. You know who Elvis is. - I think unlike Michael Jackson, Elvis definitely was more America centric. - Yeah, I feel like- - You think so? - I don't think like someone like a boy in the Philippines was listening to Elvis that much. Well, actually no, he probably was. - But they probably at least know the name. They don't even have to know who he was. They just know the name Elvis Presley. - I feel like Elvis is kind of,

- His notoriety is kind of- - It's just older, older than Michael Jackson. - Yeah, he's way older. - He's like in the 50s. - That's probably actually why he, I'm sure back in the 80s, he was what Michael Jackson was in the 2010s, right? Like everyone knew him. - Right. But I feel like his influence has like,

- It's weaker every year. - It's, it's, it's- - Oh yeah, 'cause it's so much- - That Elvis movie was ass. Did you watch that Elvis movie? - No. - I saw a bit of it on the plane. - Really? - Yeah. - Oh, that's a shame. - Fucking snooze fan. Well, it's 'cause, you know, a lot of these estates, they, like, I think also like the Queen one, they like, they won't allow them to like tell the real story. - Yeah. - Ah. - They don't wanna tarnish the name. - Yeah. - Yeah, and it's like, you know, Freddie Mercury without,

without having a life story about Freddie Mercury without discussing AIDS or HIV is just not his life story. - Not his life story, yeah. - That's just like- - That's why "Bohemian Rhapsody" was so good. - Well, I mean, they barely touched on it though. - Yeah, but at least they touched upon it. - Yeah, I guess it helped. But I think the Elvis one didn't do well because the story of Elvis is fucking insane. - Oh yeah. - I feel like they could have been way more raunchy. - He did a lot of terrible things. - This is why, I don't know if you've ever watched this,

- Have you ever watched the Joaquin Phoenix, Johnny Cash film? - Yes. - That's such a good fucking- - That's a fantastic movie. - That's such a great way to do a biopic. It's like, yes, this man was very flawed, but like we can still tell a compelling story and not like, it's public records. Everyone knows the stuff. Like we're not tarnishing his name. His name exists with or without this. Like having a movie, like if you don't like someone like, not just like John Lennon, if you don't like,

Freddie Mercury for being gay. Like a movie telling you that he was gay is not gonna like change that, right? Like you're still homophobic. It's not gonna tarnish his reputation. - Have you seen that famous picture of Johnny Cash when he was young and he's sitting in a bush high off his mind eating an entire cake.

- No, I haven't seen that. - Look up Johnny Cash cake in a bush. - So how was it having to deal with Cindy's family for two weeks? Must've been great. - Oh, it was fun. - Two weeks is a long time though. - That is a long time. - Actually, that's how much I did with my parents. It was a lot. - Yeah, there's the Johnny Cash cake. He's just absolutely cracked out eating cake in a bush. - His fucking music is so good. - It's fantastic. - What's that one song? I love that song. Is it "Jailhouse"? What's it called?

- I think it was Jailhouse Rock, which is an Elvis. - No, not Jailhouse Rock. What's the one where he's like, "I killed a man in Reno. "I shot him in the head." Something like that. - Oh, fuck. Yeah, I know which song you're talking about. - You know the one I'm talking about? - Yes. - That's him, right? - That is him. - Such a banger. - Yes.

I forgot the name though. He made like 500 rounds. - I shot a man in Reno just a while ago. - Imagine that man. - Sometimes with like artists and musicians, there's like with Elvis, which I feel like is more America centric. Obviously he got global fame, but I feel like in America, yes, he's still very, very influential and very, very well known. I'm not sure as well as worldwide, as much as like the Beatles and MTV.

- I also don't think about this that much. I don't think about this that much. Who's more famous? But I guess it's a fun little exercise to think about who's more famous. - Well, it's like, you know, it's fun to think about. It's rare for any one person to get this amount of like fame. - Every generation has that one person who does. - Okay, here's a question. Who is the most famous person right now?

- Like in the world. - Donald Trump? - Probably Donald Trump. - Really? Probably. - Yeah, I feel like his name is probably- - Can you look it up? Who's the most famous person right now? - It's probably him, right? I feel like everyone knows him, unfortunately. - Really, you think? - Yeah, I do think so. - I feel that's only in the English speaking world. - But it's like, I think when Barack was president, Barack was the most famous person on earth. - Yeah. - Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi. Yeah, true. The queen party. Yeah, the queen party was for a long time. - Yeah, the queen party was for a long time. - Dwayne Johnson.

- Dwayne Johnson is very famous. - Yeah. - Will Smith. - Will Smith, get in.

- How is Michelle Obama- - More famous than- - Than Donald, oh, the same level. This is so, I mean, like, how do you quantify that? Like, you just go to the guy in like the mountains of Myanmar and be like, "Do you know who Michael Jackson is?" No, okay. - Out of this list of names, who do you know? - Who do you know? - Right, any of these ring a bell. Ronaldo. I don't know, like, yeah, I think probably a footballer, honestly, is probably the, I don't know the, fuck, who cares? Who knows? - Yeah, yeah. - Who cares? - Who fucking cares?

- They're all famous, who cares? - Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're all famous. - They're all more famous than me. - It's like trying to quantify who's the most richest person in the world, you know, where it's like, it doesn't matter. It's interesting thought experiment, you know? - We went to karaoke with Sydney's brother. And when we went to this karaoke room, it was the most,

- Dog smelling room of my life. It smelled horrific. - Oh yeah. - What's good, a monikinako? - Well, yeah, I think you guys were like, "Yeah, we're gonna go drink at this place." And then it was a Saturday night and like everywhere was full. So they went to like a karaoke. - Yeah. - And I got in this room and I was like,

- It smelled like feet. - It smelled like people had done some stuff in there. Like people are definitely fucked in that room. - Of course. - Most definitely. - Of course. - What was the karaoke place where you had that fucking random guy show up? I saw a video on Twitter or something. - Oh my God. Well, okay, so for context. - That's why you were streaming or something? - No, no, no. I think I've taken you both there. There's a cigar bar that I like to go to.

- Oh, is it the one that we all went to together? - Yeah, we've been there. - Yeah, yeah. - I don't normally get- - Which one? We've been to a few. - It's the one- - The one in Forondomon? - The one with the, it's like a, it's a counter with a window on the basement. - Oh, the one with the seat, stairs down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's a really, really great like cigar bar. I mean, even just like, not for specifically cigars, it's just like for drinks, it's really nice. The guy's really chill. I've been there so many times. He's very friendly with me. We have a good rapport. I told him the other day that I bring a bunch of YouTubers here and he was like, "What the fuck?" He was like, "What, really?" I was like, "Yeah, it's tight." Anyway, I went there with Pete and we went there one time and there was this like,

there's this guy in the corner of the bar alone with a bottle of champagne drinking it. He had like, he looked like a Yakuza side character.

'cause he had blonde hair wearing a red puffer jacket, sunglasses on in a dark room. It was just like a literal Yakuza, like type in Yakuza side character and I bet he looks like one. I'll be like, which one does he look like? - My character during a cut scene. - Literally, literally. He looked like dripped out, but in the way that makes you think like, ah, this guy's job is definitely of the, like an unusual factor.

- Yeah, it's like some kind of fit like that. And he started talking to us and we were talking back to him, you know, 'cause me and Pete are quite friendly, especially Pete, Pete's very good at, you know. - Yeah, he can talk to anyone. - So he's talking to us and- - Japanese guy? - Yeah, Japanese guy. And we're talking back in Japanese and he's like, "Let me buy you some champagne." And we're like, "Ah, okay, yeah, that's very kind of you. "Who buys you champagne and whatnot?" And we were like, "Let's buy champagne back." He's like, "No, I'll buy you another champagne." And we're like, "Okay."

And then he's like, "Come to my spot. "I have a great spot in Shibuya." We're like, "Okay, we go there." And it's just this like Yakuza den. - Right. - Like Kabukura place. - Yeah. - Really like, really slimy. And this guy's just buying Don Perrion bottles. And then he like wouldn't talk to us when we got to the second spot. - Yeah. - And like Pete is desperately trying to have a conversation with him. And he's got his back to Pete just smoking cigarettes. And while these three Yakuza dudes are like bowing down to him, trying to talk to him.

And he's like, "No." And Pete's like, "Hey, what do you..." It was something like, "Suzuki-san, hey, Suzuki-san, thank you so much for the Don Perry on. Is there anything that you wanna talk about or wanna..." He's just blanking Pete for like two hours. Pete is trying to get a word out of him and he's just not having it. And he's like, he goes,

And he goes, "Bring over the girls." And he tries to get these girls to talk to Pete. And Pete's just like, "No, no, I don't want to talk to the girls. I want to talk to you. I want to get to know you." 'Cause he's just spending, he goes, "Oh." Pete goes, "No, no, it's okay. We don't want any more champagne." 'Cause he's spending like a thousand dollars a bottle. - Yeah, yeah. - No fucking, we just met this guy.

And he's like, "No, no, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine." And then he goes, "Okay, fine, if you don't want Dom Periani." And he goes, "Can you bring my bottles over?" These like four dudes in suits come over with like two trays of every single alcohol ever. And they're like, "Ah, these are all my bottles. Which one do you want, Pete?" And Pete's like, "No, man, no, I just..." It's so good. And meanwhile, they keep trying to get us to...

So he's like, "Oh, we could take you to Love Hotel after this." Like, no, no, no, no. - Kick the goal, which goal do you want? - Yeah, we're like, "No, no, no, we just wanted to talk to you 'cause I thought it would be a fun story."

'Cause whenever a Japanese guy's like, "Come to my bar." I'm like, "Okay, let's do it." 'Cause you always get an interesting story. So that still laid the groundwork of this kind of experience that we had. A week later, me and Pete go back with Mudan 'cause Mudan just moved to Japan. And I was like, "Let's go to..." So we went out for great food and I was like, "Let's do just a little bit of cocktails." And then, yeah, and with the moment we sit down in that bar again,

- Same guy? - No, no different guy. He told us that he was in the Philippines this time. I asked him what he did for work. He was like, he goes, "Supplement." So supplements. He sells supplements. I was like, "Ah, okay." And then I was like, "What did you do before that?" He goes, "Fudosan." And I was like, "Real estate." And I was like, "Okay, if there are two industries "where you might make me think you're a little connected,

'Cause like when we went into that building- - If you're juggling real estate and supplements, it's a bit soft. - 'Cause when we went into that building, like me and Pete got out the taxi and walked in first and the guy was behind us and they wouldn't let us in. They were like, "No, no foreigners." But then this guy walked in and he was like,

And then they all like parted like the Red Sea. It was so funny. It was so cool. - Isn't that fucking scary though? - It was terrifying, but it was so fun. 'Cause it was so cool. - 'Cause what's to say like, you know, this guy is like feeding you all these like Don Perrions and shit. - Yeah, no. - And then for him to suddenly turn around being like, by the way, here's the bill. - No, no, no. Yeah, so okay, this happened. No, no, no, it didn't happen.

'Cause a lot of the times a Japanese person is like, "Come to the bar with me." They'll always pay. 'Cause it's like, "Nihon no motonashi." It's 'cause it's like their responsibility. But obviously I always offer, it's like a gambit. It's like, I offer to be polite. I'm like, "Hey, can I split this?"

and knowing how much it could be. And then I don't know how much it was, but I think if I had to guess, it must've been around like three or $4,000 he spent. - You're doing bottles of Dom Perignon. - And apparently this guy, they would tell me he goes there every week.

He goes like every week. - He must be making so much money off the supplements. - It's the supplements, man. What can I say? - Nice guy though. Nice guy. Nice guy. Nice guy. Anyway, so we go back to the same bar and there's a different guy and it's him. He's really, really like loud. And he's with a very young Japanese woman.

And we sit down 10 seconds into sitting down. He's like, "Hello!" In English, like really like super energetic. And we're like, "Oh, hi." And I look at Pete, I'm like, "Oh, not again." He's talking to us and he's like, "What do you do?" I say, "I do videos of Japan." He's like, "Oh, what kind of videos?" I was like, "Weird." I said like, "Hen no no nihon no bunka." Like strange Japanese culture. - Yeah, yeah, videos. - And he goes, "I have the bar just for you." I was like,

'Cause he said it in English. And I was like, "Oh God." I was like, "What, what is it?" And he shows this video of a dude naked smashing chopsticks with his ass. And I was like, "What the fuck?" - Dude, I'm pretty sure that's a Yakuza side quest, isn't it? - Yeah, so, and then like, Mudan has more videos of this. And then he's like, "Yeah, come to the bar." And I'm like, "Well, Pete, we can't say no. I wanna see this bar."

So I thought it was gonna be in like Shinjuku or something, but he's like, "Go to this address." So we go to Ginza in this really fancy area. Everyone around us is wearing suits, kimonos, tuxes. Every bar is like $400 every hour. It's ridiculous. - A lot of zaddies in Ginza. - So we go up to this bar and the guy's there and this guy just .

"This guy just starts getting fucking naked right away." And we're like, "What the fuck is this?" And this is Mudan's like second night ever out in Japan. And I'm like, "Mudan, I'm so sorry."

And I was like, you should at least film this though. You're doing your daily vlog. I'm like, you gotta put this in. I told him I'd be annoyed if you don't put this in a vlog. He's like, I can't put this in. I'm like, blur it. So this guy who's like, he's like a big guy and I guess he's a friend and he just keeps dressing up and stuff. He dresses up as Michael Jackson, sings "Beat It", within 10 seconds strips naked. And it's like, what is this?

He does this thing where he's like, all right guys, I'm gonna do my magic trick. And he like grabs his pants, like wedgies himself and then shoves a chopstick in between his pants and his butt and goes, oh, and then tightens his butt and like snaps the chopstick and the chopstick just flies onto us. I'm like, oh God. Meanwhile, this Japanese guy who brought us here, he's loving it. He's like, it's like the funniest thing he's ever seen. You'd think he'd never seen a funnier thing in his life. He's going, oh, oh.

And like his escort, I assume with him is like, oh my God, oh no, this is vile, this is disgusting. And then he just starts getting his dick out. And he starts, and then.

After he keeps upping the ante, he keeps, he just breaks one chopstick. He's like, okay, okay. Three chopsticks. Like, okay, I kind of get it. He goes, five chopsticks. You're like, okay, I get it. I get it. Seven chopsticks. Okay, okay. I believe you. I believe you're going to snap these chopsticks with your butt. Stop. He just starts like exposing himself. And then one time he goes, all right, watch this trick. And he just shoves chopsticks up his pee pee.

- Oh, he sounds himself? - Not in the thing, he puts it over his skin. - Oh, fuck. - Oh, okay. - Oh, thank God, not in him. - Yeah, I thought it was like, oh. - And then starts dancing, and I'm like, why are we here? This is disgusting. - That sounds awesome. - And then he spreads his butt at one point and then gives it a guy water gun, he's like, spray my ass.

And so this guy's loving it. He's losing his mind. Meanwhile, we're all fucking traumatized watching this and he spreads his cheeks and there's just shit in his ass. There's like paper in his butt. We're like, what the fuck is this?

- You needed a quick bidet session, right? - And this is where the guy took it. We were here for like an hour. It felt like five. - Yeah. - And this was like, yeah, it was traumatizing. And then he goes, "Hey, can I add you online? Like, can I have your number?" And I'm like, "Oh, fine." Yeah, 'cause I was like, I'm not gonna add him. I'll just give him my details. He adds me. He just sends me a picture of his cock.

- You got dick picked? - All I'm gonna say is where's my invite? I need to go. - What the fuck is that? - Bro, it's fine. - Let me see. - What the fuck is that? - That looks like someone took a dick and microwaved it. - Oh my God. - Why is it so brown?

- The skin tone is so off. - It's so gross. - It's so off. - But the other, like there was no one else in this bar until like we were about to leave. And when we left, like the people in this bar were fucking loving it. They were having the time of their life. It was insane. And he just kept doing costume changes and then immediately getting naked. It was so bizarre. It was so weird. I've never experienced anything like that in my life in Japan.

I don't think I want, you don't want to go. I don't know if I want an experience now. I want to go. What was weird was right. Is that we were at the bar, the bar prior and which was about 30 minutes away from this bar. I was like, yeah, sure. Let's go to this bar. And he's like, okay, okay, okay. And then he does a phone call. And then the guy who kept getting naked and whatnot. Yeah. He showed up to the bar we were at and he's like, all right, let's go.

- He smashes a drink and then gets in a cab with the guy who's loving it. And we go to this bar and then he just starts getting naked in this bar. I don't even know if he worked there, but he was just getting naked. - Is he just like a performer? - Yeah, 'cause he gave me his card and he is like- - I think he's been on the supplements, if you know what I mean. - This was definitely an odd building 'cause opposite it was, and this is something I'd never seen either before, it was like a cross-dressing,

It was very interesting. This whole floor was filled with very bizarre bars I'd never seen before. Definitely wanna go and see more of these weird places. This is my favorite part of Japan. The weird undocumented bizarreness of Japan. - The underbelly. - It's so interesting. 'Cause like, yeah, I hear about the temple.

- Yeah. - I've heard it all before. Tell me the weird shit that salary men do in their free time. That's what interests me. - Oh, that. - So when this is like a, everyone always just tells me like, why would you follow random Japanese people around? I'm like, well, it's Japan. It's probably fine. And if you're with friends. - You'd have to be pretty unlucky. - Yeah. - Yeah. You're with friends and you know, most people- - Not to say we advocate you to do that on your next visit, but- - Yeah.

- If they are trying to sell you something, like it depends how they approach it. 'Cause a lot of these people, you know, like in that bar as well was in Ginseng, very expensive. We didn't pay a fucking penny. I offered and we didn't pay a penny.

- Yeah, I mean, like a lot of these people are very well-meaning. If you're a foreign person and you speak a little bit of Japanese and you just show interest in the culture and you're willing to converse with them and have a good conversation, a lot of people will just wanna show you cool stuff. And to them, and I think to this guy, that was like a great spot, like a hidden gem, you know? And to him, I don't think that was unusual. But to us, that's just batshit insane. And it's hard to reframe that, right? 'Cause I don't think it's like a, I don't know,

like a sinister underbelly. I think to him, that's like a fucking Friday night out. - Yeah, he's probably just a regular ass salary man on the weekends, right? And he just does that on the weekends for fun. - Yeah, I asked him what he did for work. He said consulting. I was like, bro consults so that goes to the dick bar. - I mean, checks out, checks out. - For example, I don't think this is like a,

- My impression of this was that it wasn't like, it wasn't like Nichome, like the gay district. It wasn't like a gay thing, like a gay bar. - Yeah, yeah. - It wasn't aimed at gay men or it was like a just a, 'cause in Japan there's this weird fascination with being naked for humor. - Yeah. - There are a lot of like acts and performances where people get naked and that is the joke. - Well, it's kind of like slapstick, right?

- Have you ever, you never got your cock out in front of your friends before? - No. - Only on set, aye. - Only on set, only on set. - No, like when you're out like drinking with your mates. - No, I haven't done that, Joey. - Oh, I have. - I am the Australian. - Actually, that checks out. - Yeah, that's a Joey move. - Yeah, that is definitely a Joey move to do. - And so like to,

Kind of like, I love trying to explain this as a concept to like friends. 'Cause they're like, why would he do that? And I'm like, 'cause that's just funny to them. This is just like bands to them. - Seeing your mate's dick,

in public is the funniest thing in the world. - I feel like that's an all boys school thing. - Yeah, that is an all boys school. - That is an all boys school. - I think I have the triple threat. - It's like, oh, it's funny if I get my cock out, it's sexual harassment. - Exactly. - I have a triple threat of the, I went to an all boys school, I'm Japanese and I'm Australian. - It's like you go to like a normal school and it's like, you're gonna get reported by a girl and you're probably gonna get suspended.

- I'm not gonna get my cock out if there's girls around. - That's the point. - That's actually sexual harassment. If it's just the boys though, then I'm like, you've seen this before, you've got one. Fucking whatever, get it out. - I'm just making it my mission to go through, complete all of the Japan nightlife, visit all the weird things. - Just say yes to everything. - I do, I say yes to literally everything. Which is why it's great hanging out with Pete doing this 'cause Pete also is always down to say yes. - You're trying 100% a Yakuza game, right?

- Dude, the side quests I'm racking up are great. It's so fun just talking to people and getting to just, 'cause I always ask like whenever I talk to Japanese people now, especially at bars, I'm like, "Where do you recommend I go?" And they always give me something weird. - Yeah. - Something that I would never go to. Like that time, I don't think I ever told you, I went to this like, I went to a Kenyan bar. Did I tell you about this? - What? - I went to a Kenyan bar, this Japanese guy was like, "This is the spot." - I know the place. - 'Cause I met the guy through Apex.

- I played Apex with the guy. - Oh shit, okay. - He was like, "I know a place, it's so fucking good." I was like, "Okay, sure." He's like, "Yeah, it's a cool Kenyan bar." I was like, "Okay, sure." So we go up there and the window was smashed in. I was like, "What?" I don't think I ever told you about this, but I think I did tell you that the bartender was, he was obviously Kenyan. - Yeah. - He spoke English. - Right. - And he was talking shit about the Japanese guy I was with. He was like, "This guy keeps asking for shit music."

And I was like, oh no, this guy's hyping up the spot. And this guy keeps telling me that he is fucking dog shit music. - He's getting betrayed right in front of him. - Yeah, and I was like, I'm like, he's like, what he, and he asked me, what did he say? I was like, ah, he likes your music. I told him in Japanese. And then he looked at me. - He's my bro. - And he looked at me 'cause he obviously knows Japanese. He like, he's like, okay. That was a weird choice of translation.

But yeah, no, I just love saying yes. 'Cause you always get taken to these fucking weird places. - Sure. - I've just had a great time. It was a great time. - I think that's why you'd really enjoy playing a Yakuza game. If you ever decide to be- - This entire thing is just a Yakuza game. - I'd be like, nah, it doesn't go far enough. Where's the guy snapping chopsticks with his anus? - Oh, there's much worse. - That's a standard Yakuza side mission. - Like people are like, oh my God, it's like a Yakuza side mission. I'm like, where do you think this shit is based on?

- That's the tutorial level. - Like, do you think this shit is made up? No, this is based in reality in Japan. - Totally. - You just wouldn't see it 'cause a lot of these areas are very, you would never get, like, you would never go here as a foreigner. But also a lot of them wouldn't make you feel welcome unless a dude brings you in. - Yeah. - I think you gotta- - A lot of these places are level capped. - You need a goat to bring you in. But we took a, we took,

- We took Russell to a girls bar. - Oh, we did. I completely forgot we took Russell to a girls bar. - Because when we went from this karaoke, there was no other places that were open. And there was this one building in Ichigaya that was fucking run down. It was the shittiest looking building in Ichigaya.

It was like rusted, like six floors. The building was like old and there was so many dudes in suits outside of it. And Sydney was like, what if we go to the girls bar? I was like, we're not getting into the girls bar. We are six foreign looking people.

in a business district. They're not gonna let us in. - But Sydney's like the pro in like convincing girls. - I don't even think she was like legible. And then she goes up to them, "Sure enough, we're inside." - Sydney just has, as soon as Sydney goes like foreign girl speaks Japanese and like anime voice, every fucking,

every Japanese guy loves it. He's just like, "Come on in, how many foreigners?" - I think it's charming. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I find it charming how she's like, 'cause I think Sydney speaking Japanese when she's drunk sometimes, it doesn't even make sense. - No.

- I get an aneurysm every time. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So I was like, I don't mind being home by 11 guys. I was happy to peace out. But yeah, of course we went in there and the night went longer. - Every ego wasn't like one ego. - So did Russell like it? - Russell fucking loved it. - I think he liked it. Yeah, 'cause it was a counter. So I was sitting between Russell and Didis and it was you, Sydney and...

- Emily, yeah. - And they were all bunny girls. - Yeah, everyone was bunny girls. - I was trying to explain to Russell, I was like, so the main appeal of these bars is that you talk to the girls and they just have conversation, they drink with you. So if you're like a 50 year old man who hates your marriage, there's a place you can pay money where it's not cheating,

feel like girls kind of like, thinks you're interesting. - Yeah. - It's kind of like- - You kind of get like an emotional, they kind of gas you up a little bit sometimes too. You can be like, oh, this is my job. And they'll be like, that sounds so hard. - It's kind of like a strip club, but you don't pay for- - They don't strip on you, they just talk to you. - They just talk to you. And sometimes they wear bunny girl outfits and different themes. - And obviously you pay per-

- For an hour. - Oh, it's per hour. - Per hour. - And then there's a set menu. Nobody went with the menu. And I was trying to tell people, I was like, "Guys, it's gonna be very expensive if we buy per drink." But everyone was like, "No, we're gonna do what it asks." I was like, "Okay, fuck, okay." - Well, the problem is Connor got really, really fucking drunk that night. - I wasn't even that drunk. I wasn't drunk.

- Were you not? - No, that was the worst part is that I wasn't drunk and I was trying to tell Russell, I was like, "All right, so the culture is that we buy them drinks." - The culture. - The culture is we, 'cause here's what's gonna happen. If you go to a girl's bar in Japan and you don't buy a girl a drink, 'cause it's frowned upon, they're not gonna talk to you.

And if you wanna get the experience of like, hey, you wanna talk to them? I know this sounds kind of scummy or whatever, but this is like, if you go to Japan- - It's the culture. - It's the culture. - They'll stand in front of you like this and they'll wait for a drink. And if you don't buy a drink, it'll get really awkward or they just won't serve you. They'll just leave you alone. Which is fine if you're okay with that. But I was like, you know what? I'll try and show them what it's about. So I'm like, oh, do you wanna drink? And then this girl comes right next to her and she's like, can I have a drink too? And I was like,

- I'm sure, bear in mind these are $10 a piece at least. - Yeah. - 15 I think. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I was like, okay. - They're very, very overpriced 'cause you're paying them and this is their tips basically. - And I swear to God, dude, they are watering down their drinks. - Of course they are. - I've never, but like this is, and normally, right? It's like, there is like a, if you go to these places, there's like a, you go and they'll drink a drink and then maybe like 30 minutes or an hour later, they'll be like, "Hey, can I have another drink?" And you're like, "Sure, whatever."

But my God, 10 minutes later, they're like, can we have another drink? And I'm like,

- I'm like, fine. - Of course they're wearing down 'cause they can't get too drunk right now. - What it felt like? 'Cause Connor was like trying to, he was like doing the tutorial for Russell. - So I was translating for Russell and Didis. I was doing the conversation and it was tough, man. It was tough. - 'Cause I know how it works. - Oh, 'cause they weren't even like, they were talking and then they would just stop and I'd be like, all right, okay. You guys wanna add anything?

I don't wanna talk to them about it. I'm good, I feel good. - No, because I think the mistake you made was saying yes to buying, not 'cause like, 'cause I was talking to a girl and I was like explaining to Russell, "Hey, you buy them a drink and then they talk to you."

- The difference is Connor bought multiple girls drinks whenever they'd ask. - They would tag team in and fuck them. - And then I saw, it was like, you know when ants discover like sugar water and then the entire nest just like comes in. And then I was like, okay, Russell, here's how it works. And I look over and there were like three girls around Connor being like, can we buy drinks? And then like halfway through the night, Connor just looks at me and goes,

- I was like, help, get me out of here. - I keep buying them drinks and I'm like, Connor, just say no. - I couldn't say no 'cause I didn't want the vibe to be ruined. Because Russell was loving it, it was going great.

Of course he was loving it. There were a bunch of girls in bunny girl outfits talking to them. - They were talking on Instagram. - They were having a great time. - The vibe was immaculate. 'Cause a lot of these bars, they also don't wanna talk to foreigners as well. And I was like, we were crushing it. We were fixing generational divides here. But then that's when I started to get annoyed is that I don't mind, if we're talking, it's whatever. But then they would be like,

And then the two girls would go and two girls would turn up and I'm like, what? They'd be like, can we have a drink? What? And there was this one girl who was chirping. We barely spoke and she would just keep coming over in English even though I was like, Japanese is okay. She'd come over, she'd go like, can I have a drink please? And I was like, what?

- It's 'cause you know what happened, it's 'cause like the rumor spread around. They're like, okay, okay, this guy says yes to everything. - Yeah, they did. - Milk the fuck out of him. - I thought we would be done in like an hour. But we were there for two hours and I've never been milked like that in my life. - So what was the damage? - Well, Joey actually. So about halfway through Gaunt goes, "You should buy everyone a drink."

at the bar, every single person. - I was egging him on, why are you pouring salt into the wound? - Because I was like, this motherfucker has dug himself into a hole and I wanna see him like just keep digging. - This man has one life point left in Conway. He's like, I'm gonna summon blue eyes. - That was like 10 girls and like four or five other customers. And I was like, well, go on.

I'll do that, but I'm gonna use the trash taste card for this. - Wait. - So, so. - So, so, so. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

- Are you saying you used, did you use company expense for this shit? - Yeah, I did. - Joe, you don't understand. You don't understand, Joe. You know that that's also my money as well, right? - Yeah, but. - I was not there. - Hold on, this is bullshit.

- I need that money back. - No, no, no. - I need to see what the damage is for. - Wait, hold up. I got the video. It might change your mind. - Okay. - I filmed it for you. Hold on. - I can't believe you guys are like, "By the way, we spent your money." - No, no, no, 'cause we got the video for Trash Taste. And then we did get to feed Russell a shot. So your money wasn't wasted. We got it used for Trash Taste.

- I mean, okay, that's great. - Thank you, Jerry.

- We also bet that you wouldn't notice. - I mean, I did it. - Yeah, it's been like a month now, Joey. - I can't believe this shit. So basically, Joey, what happened is we had a shareholder meeting. - Yeah, we had a shareholder meeting. - A shareholder meeting? - We had a shareholder meeting. - You were outvoted two to three. - Four for trash taste.

- It was majority votes. - Okay, whisper in my ear, how much was the damage? - It was a 12-month. - 12-month!

for five seconds of footage to use on Trash Taste. It's the most expensive fucking investment ever. You guys were having a fucking hunky dory time. And it's like, don't worry Joey, we got five seconds of footage to use for Trash Taste. It only cost us a grand. Fucking dickheads. I can't believe this shit.

- Why am I working hard for? - What's that in today's dollars? Is that 800 bucks? - No, it's like close to a grand. - No, it's like 800. - It doesn't matter. 800 dollars for five seconds of footage?

- It's not even, it's filmed vertically. You didn't even film it horizontally. - Yes, but think about how good of a moment this is for all of us. - Oh my fucking God. - Think about how great of a moment this is. - It's the most expensive segment on Trash Taste ever. - So Connor's like- - We've done all these extravagant specials. So Connor's like, so Connor turns to me drunk and I'm drunk as well at this point 'cause we're like two hours in. And I'm like, devil's advocate, I'm like Connor,

"What a fucker, he's gonna put all this on his credit card, "can't I buy everyone a drink?" And he turns to me and just Uno reverse cards me and he's just like,

"I wanna use the trash taste card." I'm like, "Connor, Joey's gonna be pissed." - It's like, "It'll be great. We'll reveal it to him. It'll be a great moment." - Can you imagine you're just chilling at home and then you just suddenly lose $300? 'Cause that's what happened to me. I'm just chilling and I'm like, "You've lost $300 for existing." It's like, "Cool, thanks guys." - Well, that's company money. - I'm not gonna find out until a month later.

- I would notice if you did this though, it'd be on my ass. - I wouldn't fucking do it. But I know if I did it, you would be pissed off. - Yeah, I would. - Yeah. - That's what makes it a good reveal though. - Jesus Christ. Can't believe this. - That's why if you do do it, you have to reveal it on trash. - I'll reveal it like six months later. - Oh my God. - It's like, damn, nice car Joey. Where'd you get that from? It's like, you don't wanna know.

- Well, that has been this episode of Trash Taste. We did literally- - I just sat on that for like a month. I wanted to tell you so bad. - God damn it. - We did literally end on a bombshell there. - We did. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Thanks guys. - So you sat in on this shareholders meeting. - This was historical. - Cool. - I hope the meeting went well.

- I hope it was fruitful. - And we got something good out of it. - I think it was well worth it. - Other than a five second vertically filmed shitty video. - What do you mean? It's a great bit. - Not even a Trash Taste member. - I'm in it. Garnt's in it. - Getting a shot in his mouth from a bunny girl. - Well, it's part of the, you know, we call it . - Yeah. I hope you had fun, Russell. - You're welcome, Russell.

- Fuck sake. Hey, look at all these patrons though. - Thank you patrons for allowing us to make poor financial decisions and not informed. - If you were ever wondering where the patron money was going, now you know. It was used to steal money from under my nose.

- Hey, if you'd like to support the show, hopefully not in ways like this, then hey, go up to our Patreon, patreon.com/trashtaste. And by the way, for all your patrons, we have a special Patreon video this month. Roll the clip, Moonon. - It's got five seconds. - Anime world I'd live in. - I mean, most I wouldn't. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, let's go through it. - All right, let's see. - Let's see.

- Two. - This should have been one. - This is just our world five years away from now when VR porn finally is good enough. - Wait, but if you don't- - Yeah, no, that's gonna be fucking great. - And hey, if you like to support the show.

- Get on over to patreon.com/trashdays. Also follow us on Twitter, send us a meme on the subreddit. If you hate our face, let's do this on Spotify. I certainly hate these guys' faces now. I'm $300 short from doing absolutely nothing. - How much is that in today's money? - It's like $900. - Ah, I shouldn't have been mad, is it? - It doesn't matter. I lost a lot of money for existing. It's like, oh, cool guys. Thank you for telling me about this shareholders meeting.

- Anyway though, that has been this episode of Trash Taste. - 800. - Cool, thanks man. - Think of it as the tip for us being great friends. - Oh shit. - Oh, friend tax, isn't it? - Friend tax. - Remember when we went to LA and we had to hold the Joey sign up? - Joey, we'll treat you to a meal. We'll get an expensive meal. - We'll put on the company card. - On the trash. - Yeah, I'll get a free meal out of it. Don't worry about it.

All right. Well, that's for Trash Taste. We'll see you guys next time. Bye. Bye.