WE CAN'T STOP WASTING COMPANY FUNDS | Trash Taste #205
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- Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host Connor. Once again joined by the boys, Joey and Garnt. How are you boys feeling? - I'm all right. - Feeling good. - It's our first time back recording in the studio for like a month. - Almost two months. - Yeah, but we did record in Australia. - We did, we did, we did. - It's not like we haven't seen each other. - No, I don't wanna. - Seen a bit too much of each other, if anything. - I'm kinda tired of seeing you guys. It's kinda overrated actually. - Overrated.

- What have you guys been up to? - Honestly, not much since Australia. Australia was a lot. We had dinner with, Joey got his revenge. - Yeah, what the fuck? - I just remember this. - You thought like I wouldn't notice? I noticed immediately.

- Sweet, sweet revenge. - I just remembered this as I was just like talking. I was like, oh yeah, that happens. We caught up to Kevin in Australia. Unfortunately you chose to go home early Connor. - Early? No, no, I left when we were done working.

You guys wanted to dilly dally around and fuck around and spend the company money. - We wanted to catch up with some quality time. - I was spending time with my family actually. - And family. - Excuse me. - Yeah, okay, okay. Where's my family there? Nowhere. You guys have family in Australia. I don't wanna hear it. - Yeah, so we had dinner with Kevin and I remember we were getting the bill and we were discussing how we should split the bill. And Joey, I look over at Joey and he just has the most devious look on his face.

- I was like Mr. Burns. - 'Cause I was talking to Kevin, he was like, okay, the bill comes to this much, all right, let me split it. Look over to Joey, Joey looks over to me and he's like, shall we put this on the trash taste card? - Of course.

- I thought I'd paid Jerry back, but it turns out I typed in the wrong PayPal email address. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we went to the Cold Ones Grog party while we were in Australia. And Connor was talking to some people about that, the girls bar situation, which was hilarious. You guys loved it. - They loved it more.

- They loved it more importantly. - This was filmed before the awards, but I'm guessing it's going to have won an award for one of the top movies. - I fucking hope so. - It's all about the reveal. I held onto that for like two months. - But yeah, we were discussing that and then Connor was like, "All right, fine. I'll pay you back right now." And then- - No, no, no. I said I had paid you back. - Oh yeah, he was like, "No, what do you mean? I already paid you back." And then I was like, "Okay." So I checked my PayPal.

- And I was like, what the fuck? I sent the money. - Yeah, and then Connor turns out sent it to the wrong email. - So you sent it to a random Joey. - Yeah, I sent $150 to some random person. So that's gone. - Is that instant karma compilation? - I think so. - I had no idea that happened actually. - But what I'm learning from this is that

Garnt has benefited from this situation. - Yeah, you and I have to go. - Well, I am just there as a passive observer. - You didn't protest the payment of neither of you. - I love it. Let me bring it on. - Well, me and Joey need to have a spoils on you. - Yeah, we really do. I love as well the immediate message we got. - Yeah, so what happened is Joey was like, okay,

let's put it on the trash taste card. And I was like, well, Joey, I'm gonna be Joey's friend here and I'm gonna be like, he deserves his karma, whatever. - Oh, yeah, because you got a fucking good meal. I saw the bill. - I know. - What the fuck did you guys eat? - I was trying to be a good friend here. - What the hell did you guys eat?

- This bill came out to like $1,500. Were you guys eating caviar? - No, it was a thousand Australian. - What the heck? That's like 2000. - And then I got a message from Connor immediately after paying the bill, who he just said, "Bastards." And they said, "Better get a video or photo for the pod." And we have one photo. - One photo. - One blurry photo, Munar put it up.

- Gart looks photoshopped in. You gotta get a video if you're spending it on the company card. - So, you know, we didn't break any of the rules. We got a photo. There were two core stakeholders in the business. - Beautiful photo of Kevin and my sister. - I mean, we had a meeting with the highly decorated, critically acclaimed anime composer, Kevin Penkin.

as well, you know, this was clearly a business. But do you know how many awards he's won, Connor? - Yeah. - How many have I paid for? I funded half of his career. - I just, there was this moment where I think Joey,

- When we were playing the bill, Joey's like, "I wonder if Connor's gonna notice." We punch in the pin code within like 0.1 seconds of us punching in the pin code. - I can smell it. - Connor, we get a message from Connor. - Would I know? Of course I'd notice. I'm not a buffoon like you, Joey.

- Colin's just calling our accountant, "Council this right now." - We have credit card fraud. I'm not in Australia right now. This can't be done. - Yeah. - I'm glad you guys had a good meal. What was the meal? What'd you eat? At least tell me what you ate. - We went to the restaurant that we went to last year in Australia with the forbidden bread. Do you remember? - That one? - Yeah. - Bastards.

- The one restaurant that I would actually go back to in Australia. - Yeah, we had the forbidden bread rolls or whatever the hell they were called with the butter of the gods or something. - I don't know why they were forbidden originally and then I tasted them and apparently only royalty ate this beforehand or something like that. - I felt like I was committing a sin eating these. - Yeah, and then I had one taste I was like,

"Holy shit, this is why it's forbidden. "Pesants can't touch this bread, okay." - And also 'cause it costs a thousand fucking dollars. Jesus. - It is always like, okay, there is, okay, I would say the forbidden bread was worth the hype, but I always get sus, right? Whenever someone goes to like a fancy restaurant and all they can talk about was, "Okay, this meal costs this much.

but that bread though, man, that bread just hit different. And they don't talk about the rest of the whatever Michelin star meal. - That was literally the meal I had with you, the British one, the Michelin star one. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - The bread was godlike. - Yeah, the- - And it was heavy. - And it was heavy and there was lots of it. It was the best, it was the only thing I remember.

- Yeah, well, it's the only thing I remember about this. After the bread, it just like time skips to, I got King Crimson to like, we should use the company card. - I mean, listen, the bread was good. If only you could have brought me a slice pack or something, I would have been happy. - It wouldn't have been the same without the-

freshly baked. - It tasted even better knowing it was on the company. - That was the sweetest spice for Joey. - Wasn't it the cheap show quote? It was like, "The secret ingredient is crime." - I've been going to this Yakitori restaurant for a very long time now. And the owner, they absolutely don't like foreigners there. I've had to whip out the Tanaka multiple times to get the reservation.

And I've been there multiple times where someone will come in foreigner, they'll be like, "Oh, no, we're full." And then a Japanese person will come in literally right after, 'cause I'm right next to the door. And they'll be like, "Oh yeah, right there." But they have an English menu, which is counterintuitive, right? So it's my favorite Yakitori spot. And I must've gone like 20, 25 times. And I've desperately tried to be like,

the chef to notice me. 'Cause I'm like, please respect me as a customer who comes back all the time. And finally, after going about,

- This month I think I've gone like six times. - Jesus. - 'Cause it's so fucking fire that it's so good that I'm not sure if the xenophobia makes it taste better or worse, but it's so fire. No one has ever cooked chicken like that in my life. It's literally a chicken breast. It's like that meme where it's like, I literally don't understand. You're like, this is everything to me.

And I finally, finally went. And then the first time I come in, they normally always ask me for my name. The chef comes out. He's like, all right, here you go. He's like, go sit down.

- No name? - He's like, "Where do you want to sit?" I was like, "Where do I want to sit? This is crazy, unheard of level." - The chef's like, "I only mean so many white tanaks." - The past like six times, he'd always smirk. And I'd always say like hi to him. And I'd always be like, "Oh, long time no see." I'd be like, "The food's fire." So good, man. Crushed it. And so finally, finally, he's super chill towards me now. After like 30 times of going. - It's like a dating sim, you know?

- Genuinely, I had to do the interaction. - You had to do the interaction over and over again to get the gauge up. - And this dude, for like the first 15 times I went, wouldn't crack a smile, wouldn't even look at me. And now I finally got it on the point where he'll have a little chat with me now. - It's literally that Gantz meme of like, "You white white boy." - I think so. He's like, "This guy's not so bad. This guy's chill." - Hell yeah.

- That's always the best feeling as well, especially when you can like bring like a friend or something and you're like, I know a place. This guy right here, him and I are homies. - This guy sorts us out, no worries. - Yeah, he'll sort us out. - The ultimate final step is if I walk in without a reservation, if he'll figure it out for me. That's like the final boss of the game.

- You're gonna have to like purchase the DLC for that one. - Yeah. - I mean, God knows how much I spent. It's pretty like, it's like middle tier Yakitori price. It's not like a course. It's like, you can order as much as you, I gotta take you guys actually. - I feel like that's the best. 'Cause I've been to some, there are certain things like sushi and Yakitori where I feel like the best experience I've had is that middle range. - So far. - 'Cause when you go to like such high range, I'm just like, eh.

- I'm not enough of a food snob to like appreciate this. - Exactly, exactly. I don't really appreciate this or whatever fine ingredients you're adding to this for this experience. It just kind of tastes very similar. - It's literally just chicken and salt and I don't know how the hell he does it, but everything tastes insane.

But they're always sold out of everything by the time I arrive. - Right. - So like they sell chicken wings. I've never seen them. I don't know. - That's 'cause they're the best. 'Cause when you said chicken breast, I'm like, of course the chicken breast is left over. Nobody wants- - No, no, no, no, no. 'Cause they have like, you go in and then they have like three different types of chicken you can choose from. They're like, this is the chicken from Aomori. It's the best one. This one. And then when you order the like negi-ma, for example, they'll give you like a piece of the thigh breast and-

something else with a name. It's so good. And I don't know how he has the perfect crisp on it. Like crackling on the chicken. It's God-like. - Does it matter where the chicken comes from though? - Hey, when you taste this, you'll be like, he's on something. This man is cooking something. And I do this one day, I took Chris recently 'cause Chris loves it too. He literally just yakitori's cheese.

- Like a block of cheese? - It's literally just a block. It's like the only like weird thing I, like, 'cause like normally, okay, here's the deal. If you're in a yakitori place and they have like a million things that they'll put cheese on, you're probably in like the wrong spot, I'd say. 'Cause a lot of places just don't do that. Maybe they'll do like a pork with cheese or like asparagus with cheese. Sometimes they do like that, but that's like normally it. But if they start fucking around with cheese like crazy, you're normally in like a really weird or cheap place. - They're trying to mask something. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- So normally I don't go for it, but they're just one thing on the menu. The only thing that involves cheese is just literally a smoked block cheese, the yakitori. And it's so good. And they didn't have it. And Chris was about to have like an aneurysm when I told him they were sold out.

It's like, "No cheese." - Well, yeah, 'cause it's one of those restaurants where they buy only the amount really they need for the day. And it closes at like 9:00 PM. - So is it like a lunchtime place? - No, no, no, it opens from five and they normally start by nine. - Holy fuck.

- Holy shit. - That must be good then. - It's so fire. - That's how you know this place is like popping off. - It's getting more popular too. And I'm like, no, no. 'Cause I used to be able to like reserve the day before and I have to do like four days before. - It's all those TikToks. I found this hidden gem in Tokyo and by next week it's like- - Have you ever had Yaksuri cheese? You can at this place. - People always ask me, they're like, oh, can you tell me like the place, like the restaurant? I'm like, well, I go there like every day.

- It's not that I don't want you to go, it's that I don't want it to be- - No, it is that I don't want you to go as well. - I'm not trying to gatekeep, I just don't want it to be a fan meetup when I go to my joint. - I'll happily say I am trying to gatekeep. - Yeah, I'm trying to gatekeep that shit.

- This is my safe space, fuck you guys. - Sometimes there's nothing more sacred to me than just a nice meal. There are some restaurants where, you know, for me, I just feel at home there. - Also, I like in Japan, I normally ask, if I tell people publicly, I normally like to ask the guy, like, is it cool if I tell people? 'Cause I don't want them to be like, holy shit, where did all these fucking foreigners come from? - Yeah, yeah.

which a lot of them will be like- - I have to crank my xenophobia up to an 11. - No, genuinely, there are places that will be like,

"Oh yeah, you want to promote it? Oh, awesome." And then I'm like, "Oh, you've got a lot of foreigners." He's like, "Maybe don't, don't do that." And you're like, "Oh, okay." - I was like, "You know what? I don't like money." - Yeah. It's just a lot of them are like, "Money or dealing with foreign customers who I don't really understand as well?" It's like, "I'll just, like comfort." Comfort, comfort. - Most people say with comfort anyway to end with. I had my first experience of a Japanese sarcasm

- No way. - Really? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Only took five years. - It only took five years. It was like very subtle. - You found the shiny Pokemon on Japanese people. - Talking about like finding hidden gems or stuff like that. So me and Sidney just randomly wandered into this bar and it's just like, it's one of those like fucking tiny, tiny ass bars. - Love those ones. - Love those places and it's run by one,

old Japanese guy who seems like, you know sometimes when you get the air that someone just, someone has experienced, someone's like done seen shit. So we go into this bar

And this place is decked out with Ashinojo. - Oh, okay. - Like stuff like posters, merchandise. It is completely filling up like the entirety of the wall along with like some shikishis that I think are by some like the Ashinojo and the Joe staff members. - Damn. - And like, I think there was like an illustration from the actual author himself sitting somewhere.

So we go in and we're like, oh, this is cool. So, and Sydney tries to strike up a conversation with the bartender. And the first thing she asked is, so you like Ashton O' Joe? And the bartender stares at her in silence, looks around like that.

And he just stares at her again and just goes, no.

And I was like, oh, okay. There are some Japanese people who can be sarcastic. All right, all right. - Probably like the worst way to open a conversation. - Yeah, it's like, no shit. - So you come here often? But no, it ended up being like, sometimes you find like the most random bars and random places in Japan. So we got talking to this,

and this bar's been like been around for fucking eons, right? And I see this shikishi standing on like the wall and it says Guy Ritchie on it, right? - Okay. - And I'm like, that's probably like

a random guy, that's just someone else randomly called. - It might be a common name. - It might be a common name, whatever, whatever. It might be a common name. So I asked him, "Well, what's the story behind this?" And he shows me a picture and it's Guy fucking Richie, the director of Snatch and Lock, Stock, 2U Smoking Barrels. I was like,

"What the fuck? Why did Guy Ritchie come to this bar?" And he was like, "Oh no, no, no, no. There's been plenty of people that have come to this bar." And so he goes through, he starts scrolling through his camera roll, right? And he says, "Frans Ferdinand, je t'aime, masque." And he shows me- - Which one? - No, no, no, no, the band. - Oh, okay, yeah. - The band, Franz Ferdinand. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The World War I.

- Yeah, yeah, the one, one, one. - He's still alive? - Well, actually no, Joey, that's actually why. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he shows me, and it's just like the Frans Ferdinand, the band, just sitting like right over there at the table for what we're sitting at. And the thing that really blew my mind was he scrolls up a bit more. He was like, "Ah, Zakhilas."

- Why are they all going to this bar? - It was just like this random kind of like very small- - It's like everyone you love. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like everyone that I fucking love that has gone to this bar. - It's so random. - And yeah, apparently I think it's like just a very popular bar for bands that perform in Japan to go to afterwards. And I guess like word of mouth spread around.

'Cause it's like a very, very small rock bar that happens to have so many Ashinojo shit around it. And it just made, and it just like, I was just fucking surprised that this bar had this much history and this much cool shit going on. Sometimes you can find hidden gems in Japan. 'Cause I remember I took you guys to another bar

where there was this bar, I think, was it in Shibuya where everyone could write like a message on the wall and shit like that? Do you remember this bar? - Yes, I do remember that. - The one where you carve in the wall? - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, I remember that one. - Yeah, do you remember that one? - Yeah, I remember that. - Yeah, and I remember randomly going there, how I discovered it was it was just another bar, randomly go into, and I was just like, I saw like the strokes

on like the bar wall being carved in with like signatures. And I was like, there's no way that's the real Strokes. There's no way that's the real Strokes. And I Googled like the signatures of each of the band members and it fucking matched up. - Jesus. - And yeah, I don't know. Sometimes,

Go to like, just go to like random places, random bars. You can find like, you know, Connor has plenty of stories about random Nike, Nike club encounters, Nike bar encounters. And you can just find the most random shit because you don't know what you're going to find. Yeah, that was like when I- This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Going online without ExpressVPN is like not having a case on your phones.

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Went to the secret Nintendo bar that I got invited to a couple of months ago.

And I went into the toilet and it's the exact same thing. Like this whole thing is just like decked out with Nintendo shit, which is cool. But like you go into the toilet and the toilet's just covered in signatures of like all the people who went there. And I was like, oh, okay, this is always fun to look at because it's like, I wonder what kind of person would stumble upon this place. But like before I could do that, I was immediately distracted by this giga massive, like just illustration and the signatures underneath because it was just fucking maximum the whole mode.

- That's cool. - Like all of them are just like, one of them I guess was just like, I'm gonna be shooting here for a while. I'm just gonna draw this giant illustration on this wall and then throw in a couple of signatures. And I'm like, I cannot imagine the members of Maxim the Hormone being like, yay Nintendo bar. It's just so weird to think about. - Everyone likes Nintendo. - Yeah, everyone does. - Until you get sued. - Until you get sued. - I think the most wholesome thing I found at that bar, 'cause me and Sydney have gone to there in a while. And sometimes we just like to read the different things that people have carved into the walls and stuff.

And there was this one message that someone carved into one of the tables that said, "I want to be a composer." - Oh, he told you that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. My dream is to be a composer. Signed his name, signed the date, and it was like all the way back in like the '90s or '80s. And I was just like,

"I wonder if this guy actually made it?" And we Googled his name and lo and behold, he was a fully fledged anime composer who had worked on, I think, some big profile anime films. - Damn.

- You've heard the story before on Trash Taste. - Have we? - Yes. - Have we? - The guy who told the story doesn't even remember. - We're at that point of Trash Taste where we're just recycling old stories without realizing. But you've actually told the story on Trash Taste. - I thought I told you guys at the bar

- No, no, you told us on Trash Taste as well. - Okay, okay, okay. - There's too many damn episodes in this podcast, man. - But there's also been occasions where I've said that you've told it on Trash Taste and it turned out you hadn't. And I thought you had, like you said at the bar. But I'm pretty sure this one you told on Trash Taste. I could be wrong. But I was like, I may as well let the story play out in case no one has heard it. - Audience, find the episode where Garnt talks about the story. - Yeah, 'cause you have a 50/50 chance because sometimes when you repeat stories- - Yeah, there's such why I'm friends with the outsiders. 'Cause now I can't fucking remember which one of-

- Which ones when you told me outside are interesting. - Because I literally can't remember. Okay, I know I've told this story, but have I told this story to the boys in person privately? Or have I told this to boys on the podcast? And sometimes it's hard to remember. - I also learned, you know those bars that say, it's a thing in Japan, some bars say members only. It turned out that it's just bullshit. - Wait, what? - It's not actually members. It's like, how do you think members bars work?

- It's through word of mouth, like recommendations? - Yeah, like how do you think you like get a membership? - Well, normally you get a membership from like someone who's already a member. - Yeah, but like they don't, like I realized that like most bars, okay, maybe some of them do, but like most of them don't actually have like some kind of like system. - Really? - It's just kind of like, yeah, 'cause I took a friend out to Golden Guy 'cause they wanted to go explore it and I was like, well, I was like, all right, well, let me show you how. We had a really good time.

Normally what I do when I go to Golden Guy's, I'll just ask the bartender, "Where do I go drink next?" And one of them was really cool. And they told us to go to this other bar, which it was in like this really weird location. You'd never be able to find it in Golden Guy. 'Cause it was in some weird back alley that you had to go up a building across like a, yeah, it was really weird. It was really, really weird. And it was just like tucked away in what you'd think is someone's apartment, but it's still technically a Golden Guy. Went in it and it was just like someone's manga room.

and a bunch of dudes and they were like a VTuber. It was fun, we had a great time. And then I asked them like, "Hey, where should I go drink next?" - Was it the anime bar? - No, no, it's not an anime bar. It's like a really hidden away, like just manga bar and the bar owner was super chill.

I was like, "Where should I go drink next?" She's like, "Oh, go to these two bars. They're members bars, but if you just say my name, it'll be okay." I was like, "Okay." So went into the first one, said her name, got in no problem. They were closing up and then we were like, "Oh no, no, the person recommended us to come here." She's like, "Oh, okay, well have a drink then." I was like, "Okay, cool." And then went to this other bar. It was so cool. It was like this, the other bar they recommended was in Golden Guy, right? I've never seen this before.

It wasn't, there was no signs for it at all. It was like in a yaki Tori restaurant in Golden Guy. You have to go to all the way to the back of it. And there's stairs that go up, up to like an attic. And then it was this giant attic area.

And it was so fucking cool. And then they were like, "Ah, you can't go up there." I was like, "Oh no, this person told us to come here." They were like, "Oh, okay, go ahead." Then went in and they were all members bars. And it's like, we didn't have any like- - Well, maybe that's the membership, right? - Membership is getting the friendship, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - You name dropped. That is the member. - Yeah, but I realized like, I thought that you had to like, there's like a monthly fee or you had to- - Why no, no, no. Why would you think? Have you seen this bar? - 'Cause I've been to other bars. - It's not like a Netflix subscription. - I have been to other bars where,

you actually get a cart and it's like actually like a, that's how you get in. But they're normally a lot bigger, but I realized the smaller bars are all just their way of saying, please don't come in unless someone has vouched that you're cool. - It's basically just vibe check. - Yeah, I learned that. - Do you have someone to vouch? All right. - Yeah. - At this other bar, she was like, oh, you should go here because all the people who go there

work on anime and video games. I was like, oh, okay, cool. So went over there and sure enough, we go up and it's just like four people. You're like, yeah, we're from software. We're working long hours. I was like, hey, well, Elden Ring was great, right? They're like, yeah. I haven't had time to play it. I haven't played it yet. But the bar was so sick. And I was like, yeah.

It didn't even show up on Google. It was like nothing. It was totally hidden away in the side of a Yakitori restaurant. It was so cool. Such a fun night out. But it's just pain. I just can't drink that much. Can't do that. - You can't do that anymore. - Can't do that, man. I drank till four and I was just like in pain. - Oh. - For me it's not even about the drinking. It's just staying up till four is like the struggle now. - I feel so tired. - Yeah, even sober I'm just like, oh, it's four o'clock, I'm done. - Even like 10, I'm like, fuck.

- I remember arriving back from Australia with Joey and we landed in Narita, which was like the first time I've landed in Narita, I think since I've moved here. - Oh God, I hate Narita. - And I just had like a fucking wave of nostalgia 'cause I was like, the only time I've landed in Narita was when I came here as a tourist, bright-eyed and I'm like, you know what this reminds me of Joey?

I land in Narita and I'm like, when am I gonna have my all night karaoke session with you? That was like the first thing I thought. - And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I can't do that anymore. - Yeah, I can't do that shit anymore, man. - Dude, when I landed in Narita, I was at the ticket machine getting the ticket for the Express, what's it called? - Skyliner? - No, the other one. - Narita Express? - Narita Express.

And when I was there, there was these like, I think these four really elderly Australian people trying to figure out the machine. And they had it in Chinese for some reason. And I was like, I was like,

"All right, I'll help." So I went to take a help. I was like, "Hey, let me do this." She's like, "I don't know why it's all in this funny language." I was like, "It's 'cause you clicked Chinese." - And then you switch to the Japanese like, "Nothing changed." - I was like, "Let's put it in English." And then I was like, "You know what? Fuck it, I'll just help them with everything." 'Cause I was like, they look so lost. And I'm sure that if these are my parents, I wish that someone else would help them. So I started helping them and then,

when I was booking the tickets, I was like, well, you know, I'm sitting here. If you want, you can sit right next to me if you want. So I booked them all the seats right next to me. So I was chatting with them the whole time. Then when we got to like, I don't know where we took your station, they were like, we're going to this exit. And I was like, oh, I'm not going to take you there. I'm going to show you the way. And then I showed them the way and they were like,

"Would you just maybe just come with us to the exit, just to make sure." And I was like, "All right, fine." So I walked them all the way through Tokyo station to the exit. And I'm like, "Go straight and then turn right and that's your hotel. You'll be okay." They were like, "Thank you, son." I was like, "All right, all right." So I was babysitting them for like an hour and a half while I was trying to get home. I wasn't even getting off at Tokyo. I got off at Tokyo to help them. 'Cause I was like, "You know what, fuck it, fine. I'll, I can figure it out." I felt bad. - What a good lad.

- Good Samaritan. - They seem so lost. - Yeah. - So if you have Australian parents from Brisbane that got lost and a British boy helped them, you're welcome. I don't know if they had kids, I didn't ask. They just kept telling me about how different London was from 40 years ago. I was like, okay.

- I wasn't born. - I was not alive back then. - This really helped me out now. - Yeah. - They were really nice there. But so many tourists and the trains suck. Buying trains, the Norwich Express or the Skyliner is such a tedious task. - Yeah, it is. - Even though the machines are kind of okay, they need to get rid of that limited express bullshit. - They do, they do. - Japan has this, we've complained about this a few times, where Japan will, it's very unclear what type of ticket you're buying.

even in English and even as someone who's done it- - A million times. - Like a hundred times. I still look at it for a second, I'm like,

- I'm clicking seat reserve. That's what I'm clicking. Not limited express ticket only. Okay, yeah. - I don't know why they give you that option because you can't get on the train if you don't have the other ticket. - I think the reason why the system is in place is for if you have like a, for example, like a JR rail pass or some other kind of pass, you can book the seat or something. - Oh, because the ticket is already covered by the JR. - The ticket's already paid for. Yeah, so it's, I think it's the best they can get. I just wish that they,

it was like hidden away, like in the corner for people who obviously knew they needed that. I was like, I don't know, just, it feels really annoying 'cause it's like most of the time it's just very confusing. And I'm not a fan of the system, but you know ages ago we did our Japan travel guide? For some reason I think we said like, don't use the Naruto Express. And I was like, why did I say that? Why did we say that? It just doesn't make sense. - Did we say that? - We said that. 'Cause I think at the time- - 'Cause I think we said just use the Skyliner. - Yeah, but they both go to different places.

- Oh, from Naruto, yeah. - Yeah. So it's like just not correct at all. 'Cause if you're just not going that direction, 'cause like Skyline goes like Nishinipori, Ueno, and then the other one goes like via Tokyo to Yokohama or wherever the fuck else. - Yeah, I mean, I think it's because- - Made the fuck up. - No, the Naruto Express was just like ridiculously expensive compared to- - It is kind of expensive, yeah. - It is expensive. - No, it is way more expensive than the Skyliner. - Skyline is like half the price, I'm pretty sure.

of the Narita Express. - Well it was when I first came here. - Either way it fucking sucks and this is why Haneda is the Chad airport. - Yeah, also I think the reason why we said it is just for people, just to say to people don't fucking use Narita. - Yeah, go to Haneda. - Yeah, 5,000 yen for an adult. - Honestly, like the extra, that is, that can't be the price. - I mean, I pay like 4,000 yen for mine. - For the Narita Express? - Yeah. - Fuck, why do I remember paying like,

- I don't know. - Back when I first- - It's not that expensive. I think the green class for me was like 4,000 yen. - Okay. - Yeah. - Maybe my memory is just shit. - You know what's funny? - Skyline 2000. - Narach is fucking dead. - Oh yeah. - There's like no one at the airport. - It's 'cause everyone listened to our podcast. - Yeah. But also a lot of flights do go to Hanan now, but like, yeah, I was kind of shocked. I was like, I landed,

like in the evening, like 7:00, 8:00 PM. And I was like, where the fuck is everyone? - Well, it's also because now that Haneda has become an international airport because Narita used to pop off because that was the only international airport. Haneda only used to be domestic. So now that Haneda does international and Narita doesn't do domestic, it's just like, well, I guess there's not as many people wanting to go all the way out into the fucking boonies. - True.

- Yeah, but Honda is superior. - Honda is superior in every way. - I think I'm gonna narrate you again soon.

- Some flights, like the flight to Australia to Melbourne is only from Narita. - Yeah. - But actually, you know what? Like it's so annoying getting to Narita that I'm actually like, I think it's just worth having a layover. I'm just like, fuck this. Fuck this. - I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go that far. - I don't know. I hate, I hate. - It's the boonies, but it's not that far away. - Yeah. Actually getting back, you know what actually sucks as well? The Narita Express, the times are shit. It's like once every like 30 minutes or something.

- Oh no, maybe more than that. - It's like 30, 40 minutes on that. - Yeah, so I had just missed one. I'd wait 40 minutes around. I was like, this sucks. I just got off a plane. It's like 8:00 PM now and I gotta wait another like hour to get home. This is shit. - Yeah, it is. - Fucking awful airport. - Don't go to Naruto if you can avoid it. - But it seems like a lot of other things have been happening around the world currently. - Like what, Garnt? - Like what?

- You know Connor, you know. - I don't care. - Even if you don't care, Connor, even if you don't care, and to be fair, I never ended up, I didn't really care about it because we're talking about Kendrick versus Drake, by the way. - The beef of the century. - We're like the lamest people on earth. - We are the lamest people on earth. - We're very late to this by the time this comes out. - Yeah, so we're currently recording this and

It's popping off right now, but it's gonna be about two weeks. De-synced and by that time I'm sure Kendrick has released a full album. - We have such a knack for talking about stuff and then it develops so wildly that whatever we said is so irrelevant. We've done this so many times 'cause we're so late to it. - So to date this episode right now, the latest development is that Drake's

- It's not been confirmed. - Which hasn't been confirmed yet. We're still trying to figure it out. - I thought they were just rapping, what's going on? - Oh no, this is bro. I've been following this from the very beginning. This shit is gone beyond me. - As somebody who like,

very much struggles to care about what's happening. Why should I care and what is the significance? - So basically, you know, normally rap beef is kind of just like, you know, just making fun of each other until one of them steps down or one of them, you know, gets fucked up. But in this case, Kendrick went,

- I'm aware that Kendrick is winning. - Oh, Kendrick went so diabolically hard, it's crazy. - Do you wanna explain the beef from the beginning? 'Cause even like, I will say this for the record. I don't like- - Why are they beefing? - Okay, so the beef from the very beginning, okay? Drake releases a track with J Cole called First Person Shooter, which became like number one all over the world. It's a great track, I like it. But in that track, Drake was like,

So basically putting himself, J. Cole, and Kendrick and calling them the big three. Right? It's...

- Well, did he actually use that? - He actually used the term the big three. - Oh my God. - This is like schoolyard shit. - Yeah, so he called them the big three, right? And then about four months later, I would say, Future and Metro Boomin came out with an album on one of those tracks, Kendrick was a feature on it, and he did a feature verse in response to that claim. And he said, "Fuck the big three, it's just the big me."

So basically from there, he was just like, no, fuck that. I'm not buddy-buddy with you guys. Fuck you guys. I'm the big shit, not you guys. So obviously that incited a war between Kendrick and J. Cole and Drake. J. Cole was the first one to respond with a really crappy diss track that he clearly rushed.

which was very bad, people clowned on him for that. So much so that a couple of days later publicly, he actually apologized for releasing that track. - I don't know who J. Cole is by the way. - J. Cole is a very big rapper, basically. - I don't listen to rap, it wasn't evident. - Wow, I couldn't have guessed.

- I don't listen to rap. - I don't listen to rap either for the record. - So J Cole really big artists right now. You know, a lot of people love him, but he releases this diss track on Kendrick, went terribly, fell flat on its face. And in a live concert, he publicly was like, yo, that was really lame of me. I'm gonna take the L, I'm gonna delete the song. That was really stupid of me. And the internet fucking clowned on him.

because that's never happened in a rap beat before, right? So people are like, "Oh, J Cole's a fucking pussy, blah, blah, blah." Then Drake releases a track being like, "No, I'm not gonna be the pussy. I'm gonna stand down and be the man and actually fight Kendrick on it."

- Right. - Couple of them released tracks with one another against each other. And then Drake releases this track called "Family Matters" which was pretty, you know, big allegations being thrown around being like, oh, Kendrick like abuses his wife, you know, all this kind of like terrible stuff. Not,

not even 30 minutes after that track gets released, Kendrick surprise releases with a response called "Meet the Grahams." And that song is the most brutal fucking song I've ever heard in my life. So basically he's like calling him a deadbeat dad, you know, saying that his entire organization is full of that he supposedly has another secret child that he's been hiding. All these like insane, and like he compares Drake to Weinstein.

in this track, it's really mean, really disgusting. And a lot of people are like, okay, now this is like,

getting beyond beef. And then if that wasn't enough, less than 24 hours after that track, Kendrick releases another track, being like, "I'm gonna go back to back with this shit." And releases basically like a club hit to kind of like make fun of Drake. But the contents of it were just absolutely brutal as well. Just being like, "Oh, you know, certified lover boy, certified." That's a line that I remember quite a bit. - It's 'cause he had a lot of allegations about

- Yeah, my favorite line from that song is trying to strike a chord, but it's probably a minor. - Oh, yeah, I mean, that's a funny one. - Which is like, that's fire. And yeah, so that happened. And then Drake, I think just yesterday or the day before released a response, but people are kind of speculating that the beef might be over because this new track by Drake, he's definitely playing defense.

He's like, he's not bringing out any new stuff towards Drake and he's kind of just like, "No, I'm not, I'm not, I don't have a secret child." - I'm not a . - No, you. - I saw like some of his defense was like, "I can't be a because I'm- - I'm too famous. - I'm too famous. - What? - Which is like, what the fuck are you talking about? - There's never ever been a famous . - No, never. - Never at all. - It was absolutely going to demonetize me. - Yeah. - A PDF file.

- Yeah, he's downloading PDF files. Yeah, so that's where we currently at right now with this whole beef. And it's just been insane because normally with wrap beefs, it never went,

Usually they just like keep it within just like the songs and everything. But Kendrick is really actually trying to, in one of those tracks he straight up said that Drake should die. - Yeah. - Oh wow. - Which is like, whoa. - I think I remember him opening up with, 'cause okay for the records, I don't listen to rap. I don't usually care about rap, but this entire thing got me interested in rap. Like unironically this was- - It's cool beef. - I mean, unironically,

- As someone who has never had much interest in that kind of like that culture or like the rap industry in general. - What do you mean? Your rap's great. - Yeah, yeah. It's fantastic. I wrote it myself Connor by the way. That's like you can tell. - Well, I as a good rapper, I would shatter right. I would get a shatter right. - You're like Drake, you got the ghost right. - I don't wanna be compared to Drake. All right, let's not, let's not.

- Sounds like a pretty harsh comparison to make, Cherry. - My bad, my bad. - No, but this genuinely got me interested in just the entire culture and rap music in general. This was one of the best, from like a third person thing, one of the best marketing things

that could happen for rap music in general. 'Cause it's got so many people, a lot of people who have like never talked about rap before, never had any interest. And it's been this beef that has been such a big event that people cannot help but focus on it. - Yeah, 'cause I mean like the Kendrick tracks alone, I think like,

the Meet the Grahams track, I think I saw got like 12 million views in the first day or something. It's become like the most streamed or played rap song of this year already. And it's the most fucking, like it's not something you should be listening to. - I remember, I think that was the first track I actually listened to for this beef. 'Cause I was like, what the fuck are people talking about? So I listened to Meet the Grahams

- Having absolutely zero context for what was going on and then hearing Kendrick be like, yo, I assumed it was like Drake's son or something like that. - Adonis, yeah. - Yeah, I was like, yo, sorry that your grandfather didn't use a condom. I was like, what? What?

- Yeah, Meet the Grinch was brutal because he was actually, it was posed in this, it was a really cool and like kind of creative structure for a beef song where instead of directly addressing Drake, he poses the song as like him writing letters to each member of his family. So he starts off with Drake's son, Adonis, who by the way was originally hidden from the public until another rapper, Pusha T actually exposed that.

So now with the second track of him- - Called his kid Adonis? - Adonis, yeah. I'm like, okay, that's a name. But like, yeah, so he basically like- - He's called the kid Zeus. - But like he basically opens up like, you know, saying like, speaking to like Adonis and being like, oh, you know, your father is a terrible father figure. You know, let me be a father figure for you since your daddy wasn't around and like telling all this horrible stuff to his son. And then he goes off to like Drake's parents

And then he's, and you know, just being like, talking to his dad, being like, your son is a fucking manipulator. And like, I'm blaming you for his gambling addictions. And I'm just like, bro, this is just, this is...

- This is devious. - This is beyond devious, man. - This is beyond, this is devilish. It's absolutely devilish. - It's not even sound like a fucking Disney villain. - No, it's just evil. It's just really, really mean stuff. - It's a little bit mean. - It's mega mean. - It doesn't matter 'cause the internet decided that he's one.

- So yeah, from what I'm seeing right now, I'd say maybe about 80, 90% of the people who are actually interested in this beef are saying like, yeah, I think Kendrick won, which I agree with. - I think it's interesting from like, the reason I got invested into this whole beef was just, it was like the music

and also just the way that they almost played the PR game. Like I do think for my,

- I mean, I much prefer Kendrick. - Music maybe beeps and boops, you know? And to me rap is like, ahs and ums, you know? I was like, most of the time this means nothing to me, but for like for once, this is the first time I actually sat down and I was like, all right, all right, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt, Garnt

Focus in for a second, lock in, guard, lock in. - I saw videos from teachers that were like, "Yeah, it's what kids are talking about." - Yeah, there's videos from university scholars. - Kids are fighting based on who their allegiance lies with. If you're a Drake kid, you're being bullied right now, which also Drake kid sounds terrible.

A Drake fan, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. So right now, Drake fans, there's a lot of memes going around and the memes have been great of just Drake fans just huffing, just...

copious amounts of copium. And all the people just being like, you know, J Cole is like sitting in a field of flowers right now. - And the third reason I've been invested is just 'cause the memes are fucking fire. - Oh, there's so many good memes coming out of this. - I mean, whenever there's a good cultural event, it's dude memes are ensured, ensue, like the submarine, the memes are good on that even though that was terrible. But the memes, there were a lot of memes.

- Whenever anyone's like all talking about something. - I mean, this is terrible as well if you think about it. If any of the allegations from either side, if any of them come out to actually be true, that is pretty career ending for either one. - I mean, it's more than career ending. This is-

- One of the allegations is just a crime. - Oh yeah. - You'd be surprised how in entertainment industry, how much people get away with. - Oh yeah. - As we know very well, this is, you know. - Especially the music industry. - Yeah, music industry, my God. - Yeah. - But it's been such a delight just to see fucking this after all of the years of like fucking fake YouTuber beefs and,

- You can lay the apology videos and you just realize. - Finally some good food. - You finally realize, oh, this is what real beef looks like. This is what happens when someone, when two people actually just fucking hate each other. - I'm just happy that Kendrick is actually finally releasing new music. Honestly, as a fan, 'cause he hasn't released stuff since like 20...

- Well, normally there's no, YouTube is the kind of almost benefit from drama, but you'd think with, you know, when you have an established music career, there's kind of no real benefit. - I disagree. I think there's benefits beef because,

- Not beef like this. - Yeah, it depends. - Or not for Drake. - It depends if you come out as the winner or not. - Exactly. - Even then, like, you know, if you, even Kendrick, you'll now have these people who think that you are all these horrible things. - Yeah, yeah. - He was accused, right?

- Normally the reason why we don't see this kind of beef or drama really only we see it in rap is because people are like, "Oh, I like money. I like having a career. I'm just not gonna, I'd rather just keep working." - But yeah, it's just interesting 'cause I just think the way Kendrick played this, whether it was intentional or not, music aside was just fucking perfect. - This dude was playing 5D chess. - Yeah, he was. - I think I heard some of it. I don't know.

I don't know, it sounded good. - Yeah. - Sounded cool. - No, it was great. - I have no idea. I genuinely wish I could get into it, but I'm like, oh, okay. - No, because the way he,

escalated the narrative to be like, he always put the ball in Drake's court and didn't allow him time to respond. So I remember he released the track Euphoria, which I think was the first time he like- - That was his first response. - Yeah, that was the first time I heard people talking about it. I was like, I don't know, this is some rap shit. I don't know. And then the second time I heard about it was Meet the Grahams. I didn't even know that Drake had released

a track prior to that? - No, because he released it 30 minutes after it came out. So it completely smothered his response. - Yeah, so he clearly,

he clearly just prepared a song knowing that, I don't know if he prepared one song or multiple songs knowing that Drake was going to make a response about family and shit like that. And he was like, all right, fucking play the L music. Play the fucking L music. - I mean, there is something satisfying about watching someone just be destroyed. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - It's kind of fun. Like damn, he knew. - And then just seeing the way that played out and seeing him control the narrative,

And then after that, just fucking kicking a man while he's down with the second track before Drake can even respond. And then afterward, Drake trying to try, Drake trying his best to pull a fucking Joseph Joestar and be like, I expect,

I expected you to call me a pedo. And everyone was like, "Drake, I don't think that's the argument you think it is." - That's not the play you wanted to be. - The biggest L that Drake took in my opinion was like after like the whole accusation of like him hiding a secret child, second secret child came out about it. He posted an Instagram story, which was like, "Lamao, if you can find me the secret daughter, then I'd love to know where it is."

but because there isn't one. And then people are like, but you're not gonna say anything about the sexual allegations, the PDF file allegations, nothing about that. All right, man, that's a little yikes. - Why would him even having a kid matter? He makes music. - Well, I think it's just because people are like, he's a deadbeat dad.

Like this man is 37 going around like he's still like in his early 20s, like having- - Oh, you think the concern is that he doesn't wanna be seen like he's just not there for the kid at all or? - Well, he wasn't for his first kid until Pusha T literally forced him to make Adonis go public. - Yeah. - I mean, yeah, if you're a kid, you should be fucking Alfred.

- Yeah, exactly. - I mean, I feel like he has no excuse. - And that's why the Kendrick track just bit even harder because in the part where he's talking to Adonis, he's just like, you know, be proud of who you are. Like, you know, be proud to be black, be proud to be the person that you are because you know, your dad didn't do that for you. And I'm just like, oh.

That's fucking brutal. - I watched a video of like Andre 3000 just in a laundromat just playing the flute. And he's like, yeah, I'm just chilling. Gonna hang out with my boy. - He released this like really weird like 45 minute ambient flute album. And I'm just like,

- All right, not embarrassing. - He's literally like, this is like the two sides of rap. You can have me, though you can just chill. It seems like he's just living his best life. - Well, that's why J. Cole, I think that's why J. Cole decides to apologize. Because he was probably like, this is gonna get ugly, I'm dipping out. - J. Cole watched "Window Saga 2" and he's like, actually, I have no enemies. - I have no enemies. - They're just kinda like anti-Rapture, like, actually, sorry about that.

- Yeah, but that's why people were clowning on him at first, right? But now everyone is like, we have to apologize to Jacob for clowning on him because that was the biggest brain move ever. That man saved his career so hard by not getting involved in this. - Yeah, he saw the future and he was like, I'm gonna take the right path. I'm gonna save my own career. - Yeah, so that's where we're currently at right now. People are saying that it might be over because of Drake's response. - There's nothing Drake can do. The only thing that I see happening is

Kendrick just continues. - Yeah. - Just release a whole album. - At this point he could. - People would eat it up. - He's already released four tracks. - That's a lot of tracks. - That's enough for an EP already. - So like, why does it take them so long to normal? Is there no inspiration to make me finally- - Bro, being a creator, man. - Finally some inspiration. - To be fair, there is no greater power than being a hater. - Oh yeah. - Do you see that tweet of like,

So there's some guy like critique some animation. And then someone quote retreated being like, "The worst thing that ever happened to the animation industry is all these motherfuckers like talking about production of animation and critiquing it."

And then the guy replies being like, I actually learned animation to become a hater. - Oh, I saw that tweet. Fucking top 10 coldest tweets. - He gave like examples of his animation. He's like, I literally learned to animate to critique. And it literally had like the fucking, what's the flash? You know that reverse flash. Had such strong hater energy. And you gotta respect it whenever someone is a hater

It just learns a field today. - Top 10 coldest tweets of all time. - Yeah, it was like when that fucking, did you see the AI artist with the One Piece animator?

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That was funny too. Some guy was making AI art or something and then some guy replied, he was like, "This was like shit." And he's like, "Oh, well." He was like something like, "Oh, you couldn't draw this." And then he literally like replied with him a screenshot of the credits of One Piece. - He's like, "I literally want to do this." - "I can draw this." And I have. - That was one of the biggest ratios I've ever seen. - It was so cold. Actual so cold.

- So you see, this is like the good ratio where- - Yeah, so like this guy goes, "Oh yeah, yeah, yeah." He goes, "I just watched an episode of One Piece and wanted to represent what's going on here with AI generated image for the enjoyment of my fans." - What fucking fans? - Yeah, and then the guy replies, "Learn how to color properly or learn how to draw to begin with. Not even in your dreams would you be able to make an illustration like this."

I can do better. I can animate it because I've been animating for one piece, you idiot.

- That's a round of applause for that one. - It's perfect. - Biggest slam dunk. - It's like he threw it up for him. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He just comes in with the assist. - So good. It's like, there's so many ways you could retort to a guy critiquing you. And then why you went for the, you couldn't do better. It's so good. Oh God, I love that. Anytime anyone gets a dunk like that or a hater that goes hard, I'm like, all right, all right.

- It's powerful, it's a powerful energy to be honest. - One out of a thousand tweets actually having the right dunk instead of just being like engagement bait tweets. - True. - Because like, have you seen the, I don't know if it's like a trend or like the recent,

where it's just random tech bros being like, "Marcus Brownlee shouldn't be critiquing." - Oh, I've seen that. - I've realized what's going on. And I've noticed this more and more. People have been setting up like quote retweet, dunk tweets way more because if your tweet gets viewed, you get money. So I've seen people that are like setting up clear, the most obvious bait.

and just waiting to get quote retreated. 'Cause they know that the quote retreat will do well. Yeah, so Twitter's actually unusable now. - That's why there's so many of those like, look between L and H on your keyboard, which is the worst fucking trend ever. Please stop doing that. - That lasted a day. - I still see it to this day. - I saw like a tweet that was like, hey, it was like, can we all agree that the chocolate at the bottom of the Cornetto is crap?

And it was the most obvious bait I'd ever seen in my life. And then the quote retreat was like, not even a psychopath would say this. And it had like a hundred thousand likes. I'm like, that shit adds up. - Yeah, yeah. - Obviously it's not like you can live off it money, but if you're like a 15 year old kid who wanted to farm change, it's not a bad way to get a couple of hundred bucks. - Yeah, it's not bad. - But that's why like most of like Twitter dunks or quote retweets or whatever is,

- It's actually just unusable. - Oh yeah. - I think there's a second thing with like the whole Marcus Brownlee situation where- - I feel like that's a lot of people though are setting up because they know they're gonna get dunked on. - But like everyone who, it's like everyone, it's kind of the same as like the whole crypto thing, which is why like,

- I mean, Chris L. Broseau mentally. - Yeah, yeah, which everyone who I've seen criticize or every two we have seen criticizing Marcus Brownlee, which if you don't know the backstory, Marcus made a review on this new piece of tech that's had just got released that had, I guess,

a fuck ton of venture capital funds. - There was two, there was like the rabbit and then there was the pin. What is it called? - The pin camera or something? - Both like AI powered. - Garbage, garbage. - Both AI powered assistants or something along those lines. And he basically called it shit.

Barely, I think the first- - Barely reviewable. - Barely reviewable and I think the other one was the worst product I've ever reviewed. - You have to be doing something colossally wrong for Marks to say that it's-

- Exactly. - 'Cause I mean, the guy's very generous, I'd say. - Yeah, and there was a tweet that went viral saying that his reviews were unethical. - Yeah, I saw that. - Yeah, his reviews are unethical. And then you go on his profile and it's like, oh, I feel like you always get the sense that anyone criticizing and calling and trying to call this unethical or some like mask this with some other broader issue, you're just like,

- What do you got money in? What are you investing in? - And they always have a fucking blue check mark. - Yeah. - Always got the blue. - It's always like, oh, I'm an entrepreneur or I'm an investor or a CEO of this really small fucking- - Insert buzzword. - These crypto bros are like, I don't know why they all agreed to collectively promote the worst shit imaginable. And they all somehow congregate and are annoying. - It's gone from crypto to,

- They're all on the same circle. Everything's gonna be AI powered. Everything's gonna be like fucking, what is it? What do they call the new web? What do they call it? - Web three? - Web fucking three. Shut up! Shut up! No one cares! This shit sucks! I'm sure it'll be usable down the line, but like, you know, I think like right now it's like, just shut up, shut up, shut up. - I mean this shit right now, it's basically just like,

astrology just for like bros. That's basically what is happening right now. - Just like lonely dudes who just get welcomed into a community of people who are like, yeah, we're friends. You just got to promote this thing. And it's like a cult. We all just agree to promote each other and do it. And it's great. And Dogecoin guys, right? It's great. I saw another tweet of this that was like somebody who took Marcus's very first video. - Oh yes, yes, I did see this one.

- Oh yeah, yeah. - And they tweeted out being like, "Would you pay for this if this was the first iteration?" Sometimes it just takes a couple of tries to get it perfect. Someone was like, "Well, you see there, that's a free YouTube video of a creator who-" - You don't pay for it. - You don't pay for, and that was like 15 years ago and wasn't funded by venture capital and wasn't asking people for money. And you're dumb. But yeah, but even then that felt like,

That take felt so brain dead that the only logical explanation of why you would make that tweet is if you wanted to inform, you wanted to farm- - Farm engagements. - Yeah, there's no way. Like there's no way. But I feel like this, like the internet now has become unusable 'cause you're like, I don't even know what, like finding anything genuine is impossible. It's so hard. - Yeah, I think especially engagement bait on Twitter is obviously rampant.

I mean, we're not even immune to it. I swear to God, every time we discuss anime in some way, shape or form, there's always one clip that just blows up on Twitter or something along those lines. - 'Cause we're just so full of hot takes, aren't we? - But they always cut it in like the most, not harshest, the most, what's the word? They interpret it in the,

it's very specific way a lot of the time to farm engagement as well. It's like, I'll leave out all the context or anything else important. - I also think some of these takes are like the most lukewarm takes compared to some of the anime takes. - I got flack for saying yours was boring. - Yeah, I was like, is that a hot take?

I mean, man doesn't like spy family. I'm like, okay. Like I like spy family, but I feel like it was, you know, to me it's like comfort to me.

- What the fuck is that? - That's from two years ago. - Oh shit, well I hope they change that. - Okay, okay, like the attack on Titan episode. I understand that. - No, that's funny, that's fine. - I understand that, that is a hot topic. - I actually like, you know, I don't mind Twitter, people are dis, like, here's the thing. I like that, I like that people,

post trash taste clips to Twitter and discuss it. 'Cause at the end of the day, I'd rather be talked about than not talked about. That is our job. If no one cares about the dog shit anime takes we say, then I think we're doing something wrong. - I can't wait for someone to call us unethical. - Joey reviewing Sword Art online. He's going to get sued. This is unethical.

- Would you pay for this? - How dare you ruin a small animation studio? Oh my God. The thing that's most frustrating about that one was that like,

Even the author was like, I don't know what the fuck to do with you all. Until literally season two, he's like, I guess I'll write something. That's the thing I hate, where people are like, yeah, but she got character development like season two or three. And it's like, okay. Yeah, so he realized like four years into writing the show, maybe he should write the other character. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, I think the issue is though, it's like,

- With a clip like that, so the context is Connor has not seen season two. - No, I haven't. - His comments were purely based on season one. - Watched an entire season of a show. - Yeah, yeah. - It's never done. - From someone in my perspective who's seen like both seasons, even though Yor has like an entire arc popping off as an assassin, I could understand Connor's take. And everyone was like, well, Garnt's not,

- Veminently like disagreeing with Connor. - Yeah, that's just weird. - So he must agree with him. And I'm like, no, sometimes what is lost on the internet is just giving people the benefit of the doubt. - Yeah, God forbid there's no such thing called mutual understanding. - Yeah, and also the core premise of Trish Taste is that we all have different opinions and that maybe you say something and sometimes, you know, maybe I disagree with it. But also sometimes I feel that I don't have to always tell you that I disagree or that,

I'm against what you said. And even if you had called, if you were like, "You're the best character ever." And I said, "You're always not." It's like, all right, whatever. - All right, that's just your opinion. - We don't have to then leave the show agreeing on either or and be like, "Guys, this is the council's opinion." The point of the show is to be able to have a differing opinion and we can still be friends and be in the same room. But the internet has turned into a thing of like, you all must agree or be in the same camp as me or not. You're either with me or not.

- Otherwise you are the worst person. - Yeah, I think it's not very helpful. - I think the things, so like, I try not to, you know, deem scroll or whatever, but I'm used to being clowned on for my opinions. I don't give a shit about that. - We all get clowned on. - If you wanna say I have a shitty opinion, I'm just like, whatever. - Join the club. - What bothers me sometimes is when they try to turn it into like something more

- Yeah, so like, you know, for the your take, for example, I remember seeing like this, this or something being like, oh, they're just shitting on it because it's suddenly popular to shit on Spy Family. And so they suddenly just changed their opinion. - What is it popular to shit on Spy Family? - And I'm like, number one, is it suddenly popular to shit on Spy Family? What?

- No, it's not. - Number two. - Also that whole thing of like, oh, you must hate it because it's popular is the most baby fucking take I've ever heard in my life. Like, no, maybe just consider the fact that

Popular or not, I just don't really like it. And that's the end of it. - So Joey, I do think there is some hater energy that you could like bring into you. If you're gonna shit on Arcane, you should watch it. You should follow the footsteps of the animator, man. - That's why like when I watched all of Spy Family, even though I was bored halfway through, because I wanted to accurately hate it. - Have you guys ever watched the show just to hate on it? - Yeah, half the shit on this podcast I've watched just to hate on it.

Why do you think I watched eight episodes of 86? I already knew I wasn't gonna like it two episodes in, but I knew people would get pissed off. People would get pissed off anyway, but I actually don't mind. I know that like, I guess-

I don't care when people clown on my takes or disagree. As long as it just doesn't get like personal. - Yeah, exactly. - People get like really, they get really worked up and they're like, you're a terrible human being. It's like, I didn't like. - Just because I didn't like your show. - Like bro, could we chill out a little bit here? - I'm trying to remember the last time I actually watched something just to prove people wrong. - I literally played Final Fantasy just to like,

- Out of spite? - Yeah, so I can accurately- - But you ended up enjoying it. - No, I mean, I knew I liked it, but I only played it 'cause of like "Spite Night" and I wanted to accurately give opinions on why it's good or bad. And I'm sure there'll be like games that I despise. Like I'm playing "Final Fantasy XIV" and I'm sure I'll not like that. - I don't think you're gonna like that. - It just does not seem like- - Bro, let me tell you this.

- It is a nightmare to set up that game. I don't know if you've ever- - Yeah, yeah. The, the Mog thing. - Oh, Mog station bro. - Mog station. - Don't even get me started. - Go try it. I sometimes like- - I knew it was gonna be bad when it was a Japanese company, but I didn't know how bad. - Yeah. - The website is that the Mog station is stuck in like 20,

- I installed the game and it opened up like a Windows Vista window to install it. I was like, what is this? - And the fact you need a two factor authentication, which like, I remember setting up, I remember setting up the two factor and it has to be set up through like the Mog station, whatever thing. And I could not like trying to re-log into my account. I could not fucking find how to get this two factor authentication. - I made three Square Enix accounts. - Yeah. - Because the first one,

Okay, another thing, right? So, okay, I'll give you the full timeline. So this is my, I spent three hours last night trying to get my Mog station working, which is crazy. In like 2000, I'm literally playing it tomorrow. So we'll see how this goes. But I'm very, I'm excited to sell. But this was funny 'cause I was like, this is almost comical how bad this is to install.

as a game. So first of all, it's on Steam and I asked people, I was like, should I do the Steam? Like, no, no, no. - No, no, no. - Don't do the Steam one. - No, no, no. - And then yeah, everyone said that. I was like, okay, I won't do the Steam one. That makes sense 'cause Japanese UI and stuff like that, it's not like Fortnite level where it's like you can fucking log on on a toaster somewhere and it'll perfectly sync up to your thing at home on a different account, whatever, like that. I know it's not that level. So I went to the Square Enix account and this is where it started getting tough

- My first issue, and this is a very me specific issue is obviously I wanna play in English, but I live in Japan. So there's already like Square Enix website was desperately trying to make me go on the Japan one. And I was trying to not do that 'cause I wasn't sure how it would work if I would be locked into Japanese. - Did you have the problem of making multiple accounts for different regions? - So I went to make the first account and I made it in America. - Yes, okay.

- Because I didn't know, I didn't realize what was gonna happen. - Yes, nor did I. - Because I thought no big deal, I'll just say I'm in America 'cause I intend to play on the American service. So I was like, no big deal. And I went through it and then they asked for my address. - It was a big deal. - I was like, oh yeah, I was like, he will find out it was a big deal. - It wasn't a big deal. - The first account randomly just got locked.

I don't know what it was, I just randomly locked it. And I was like, well, luckily for me, I have like 19 emails, so it's fine. I can play this game all day. But by my CW username that I had, very nice, that was gone now, 'cause now it's locked behind something. So I made another account and then made it on the America one, got through it. And then I got to the payment details and I kept getting this error when I kept trying to buy it. Even though I know it's a free trial, I tried to get the starter pack. I was like, I don't know, I just wanna pay for something. - Yeah, you're gonna have to pay for it eventually. - Yeah, so I was like, I'll just pay for it.

So I tried to set up this account. Every time I went to go pay, they kept giving me this error. And I was like, what the fuck is this error? And I Googled the error and it was like, oh, because I wasn't in America trying to make like a payment for an American thing. It was like, no. - You need to be in the same region to make the payment. - So I was like, okay, all right. Start from scratch, made a new account. So I signed up in Japanese and I'd use all the Google Translate to go through it. I got through it all.

It was fine until I got to, it wanted me to fill in my information. Now, anyone who's lived in Japan, you'll know this

horrible moment that you get to, I don't have a Kanji name. And certain, and you know- - What do you mean? You have Tanaka. - Okay, oh my God. So in Japan, Japanese websites, they will ask for two names, your like Kanji name and then your like Furigana, like how to spell it in like Hiragana or Katakana. And it just,

- It would not accept my name in Katakana. - Is it because you didn't use- - You thought it might be the half width, full width. This is another bullshit thing that Japanese websites have where they have a full width character and a half width. Basically big characters or small characters. And sometimes some websites

only require you to use a specific one that you have no way of doing unless you like find the thing on your keyboard or go to a website and convert it. It's bullshit. I tried every single combination. I tried my name in English. I tried my name in Hiragana full widths, half widths, didn't work. Tried my name in Katakana full width, half width, didn't work. I was like, what the fuck?

But for some reason, Connor, my actual, just Connor was fine. But my second name Kofuru and it was like, that's not a name. So I put Connor, Connor and it was like, oh great. I was like, what the fuck? They're just saying my name is not a name. This is bullshit. - Bro went for the Mario name, man. - I was like, this is fucked.

So I was like, fine. So I finally got my account set up after I put my name and now my name is Connor Connor. So then I go to go pay and I go to put my payment details in and it keeps giving me errors. And I'm pretty sure it's because my name is Connor Connor and on my card, it's not Connor Connor.

but I can't put my name on the card 'cause the website wouldn't take it. Final Fantasy, what the fuck is this shit? - Wait, in the Furigana section, right? - It wouldn't take anything, anything. - Nothing. - None of the, either of the things would take anything of my second name. - I've had this issue with,

multiple websites before. - So I was like, all right, my name's Connor Connor and Katakana on both of them. I'm like, fine, here we go. And so I'm like, all right, I'm gonna pay. And so it wouldn't let me fucking pay. And I tried every card I have. I have like three Japanese cards. None of them worked. I tried my Amex, didn't work. I tried my British cards, didn't work. It wouldn't let me pay. - They were like,

- None of these cards say Connor Connor. - Let me fill in my billing address. There was no billing address, so I couldn't change it and then fix it all. I was like, this is fucked. So I was like, all right, fine. On the Final Fantasy 14 website, there's a dropdown menu of three places where you can buy. I shouldn't have given up at this point. I'd be like, fuck this game guys. I played three hours of this game last night. There are three places where you can buy Final Fantasy subscriptions. Even though I know you get a free trial, yada, yada, yada.

- Comical. You can buy it from Mog Station. You can buy it from the Square Enix store, which is different from Mog Station.

So Square Enix is two stores and you can buy from Amazon. I was like, all right, here we go. All right, finally, finally, Amazon, a store I know will deliver. - Trustworthy. - Because when I was putting in my payment information, I could click card and buy it or click a code. I was like, you know what? I'll just get a code. This just seems easy. I'll get a code. So I go to Amazon to buy it. And I go to amazon.jp with their link from their website. And then it goes, ah, nah, sorry. This only ships from America. A digital code.

- And I shit you not, I think if you go there right now, I can, I mean, have a look. - What? - If you go to like, type in Final Fantasy 14. - Where are they storing these codes? - It's a literal digital code. - Yeah. - So 14, so go to like the actual website, the Japanese one, for like the free trial, like yeah, that one. - Dot com. - Yeah. And then go to like- - Expansion maybe? - Yeah, just go to the standard one.

- Yeah, click that. This shit is fucked, man. - Yeah. - Amazon, open, look at this shit. Look at this. All right, okay, all good, all good, right? Okay, put it in your cart. Looks all looks great, looks good. I gotta buy it. If this works. What the fuck?

- What the fuck? - Do you want it? - No, I have it. - Do you want it, Connor? - Dude, I'm going there right now. I went there yesterday, right? And it was like, we can't ship this 'cause it's from America. And I was like, what do you mean? What do you mean? Dude, this is the error I kept getting. Why do I get this?

- Yeah, it's not supported in your region. - And then it said fulfilled by amazon.com and I was like, okay, fine. - Amazon.com sales incorporated, which is the American one. - What the heck? - Nope, it works here. - Wait, maybe if you did, I don't know. - Digital items will be available in your orders after. - What the heck? - Yeah, it works. - Dude, on my Amazon page, it's like, nah, sorry, we can't fulfill it. It's from America. I was-

- So this is the download version? - I was clicking the download version. The exact same thing. I just clicked that. - And it works perfectly fine. - What the fuck? So then I was like, okay, I can't get it from there. I can't get it from Mog Station. And then I go to the Final Fantasy, the Square Enix store, which is different from the Mog Station store. And finally I get the code and I buy it. I don't know why Square Enix is cool with it. And Mog Station isn't the same company. But I finally get the code and I install it.

and then it just doesn't recognize that I have that version. It keeps saying like, "Oh, start your free trial now." So I had to reinstall the entire game and then finally recognize I had it after like two and a half hours. What the heck? I'm so pissed off yours works. What the heck?

So I spent like- - To be fair, I had the same amount of like headaches just to play this game. It took me an evening just to figure out how to play. - It's like they don't want you to play the game. It's actually insane. - The fact that it's this successful and this is like the barrier of entry just to fucking play the game. - And like people were tweeting at me saying that apparently like one of the creators of Final Fantasy like had a hard time making his account.

Like he can get away. - Talk about Uchis, like shrugging. - Yeah, like it's, dude, I feel like I'm very good, like technically at figuring out if someone doesn't want to let me pay it for whatever reason.

living in Japan, speaking English and moving across countries all the time, doing stuff. I get very good at like knowing how to work websites into making it work for whatever thing. But this one was like- - This is the final boss. 'Cause it was that on top of the layers of, hey, you have this products that you can buy from these different stores in each and different regions. And also there's different expansion packs that you can buy for your accounts that counts differently towards your in-game progress. - I tweeted out being like, fuck this.

this launcher and a bunch of people were like, a bunch of people tweeted me being like, yeah, I accidentally bought three copies 'cause I assigned them to wrong accounts or something. - I think I did buy three copies or at least two copies 'cause I remember buying it on Steam first. - Insane bro. - I remember buying it on Steam first, which was- - Can you hold onto one for me? - Yeah, no, no, no, 'cause it's- - So I don't have to go through this. - It's locked to my European account because my Steam was made in England so it was locked to the EU account. - If you pick a server, you can't change. - Yeah, you can't change. - Oh, that's fucked. - Yeah. - What year are we in? What year are we in?

- So I believe if you want to, if you lock it to a server, you have to make an entirely new account. - Yeah, you do, yeah. - And go through this bullshit again. - What the fuck? I honestly, I'd rather. - And then on top of that, Connor, on top of that,

- Game doesn't even get good until like 100 hours later. - Yeah, I know. Everyone's telling me. Well, you know, in like a month time, I'll come back and give my thoughts. - Also apparently you can't afford to like skip any cut scenes 'cause the main reason people play this is for the story. - I know, I heard. - To be fair, ARR beginning is recent. - No, no, I don't see. - Silence, fam. - You've been saying this for years to me, Nabi, and I'm not doing it. - This looks good. - I'm not doing it.

- See, see, Nabi, Nabi, I am the type of person that if I know, I'm the type of person, if I know there is a payoff, I will grind through as many fucking hours as I need to. I mean, that's why I'm playing through the trail series for God's sakes. - Yeah. - I have played through about 20 hours of Final Fantasy Online, I believe. I'm like, this is hard, man. This is hard.

- When does it, oh. - You know what I played yesterday too? Hades 2. - Oh yeah. - So fun. - Is it good? I really want to get it. - You gotta play on Steam Deck. It's so good. - Is it good on Steam Deck? - Oh bro, it's like made for Steam Deck. - Okay, okay. - Well, it's actually made for Steam Deck, but as in like, it's very good to play on Steam Deck. Dude, it's so good. - Yeah, I really want to play it.

- 10 out of 10. - 10 out of 10 on Steam. - 10 out of 10. - Everything about the game is just like sex. It's just sex. The controls are sex. The gameplay is sex. - Is the storyline sex? - A lot of sex.

- The voice acting, definitely sex. Everything's so good, man. Everything's so good. They knocked it out of the park. I can't wait to see it finished. But I mean, it's the one thing I wasn't too pumped about is that it's silly access, but I guess they just wanna get it out. - Can I ask a question? - You may. - Which might be a stupid question. - You may ask. - You know sometimes when you use a term and you don't really know what the meaning of it, but you use it anyway. What does rogue-like mean?

- You don't know what a roguelike is? - I think I know what a roguelike is. - Okay, you tell me what you think it is and I'll tell you if you're right. - It's okay. Firstly, I don't know what a rogue is. So I don't know what I've always, okay, one thing that's always confused me is I think I know what a roguelike is from playing enough games where you kind of like repeat a level with different starting conditions and you progress through further as you go along. So how does that make it a roguelike? What is a rogue first? And why does roguelikes make it like a rogue?

- What does this mean? - I've never heard of the game being described as rogue. - Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. - Only rogue-like, but there's also rogue-lite as well. - Okay. - So I think Hades actually falls, if I'm not mistaken, and I gamers, I hope I'm not. So basically a true rogue-like is you don't gain any abilities like after each run to make your runs easier.

It's purely just a self-contained run. And every single time you start from zero. Whereas a rogue light is one where you by grinding and doing multiple runs, you unlock stuff like a 5% stat bonus increase to make your runs easier. - Like an upgraded weapon or something.

at subsequent times. - So Hades would be a rogue-lite. - If I'm not mistaken, maybe we can Google this. - Can we Google what is a rogue? - Rogue, the only time I've heard the word rogue is in like JRPGs where it's like a class. - Yeah, that's that. - So I've heard of rogue-like versus rogue-lite. - I've never heard of rogue-lite. - Yeah, rogue-lite, if I'm not mistaken, is what most people accidentally refer to as actual rogue-like.

- Right. - I'm gonna give you a, what is- - But these are like the most popular games to me. - Isn't a rogue someone who is like- - On their own. - Yeah, someone who is like actually paid to do a job or something or like goes out. Isn't that what a rogue is?

- What is a rogue? - Rogue is somebody like works on their own, lives by their own. - The genre of rogue games derives its name from a classic dungeon crawler called Rogue. - Oh. - That helped popularize some interesting unusual ideas. - Bro, I've never heard of this game before. - Me neither. - Oh, it's very, is it a Microsoft game? - Oh yeah, look at it, it's from the 80s.

- Yeah, it looks like a- - Also, Rogue isn't even a genre. It's just a game. - It's from the game. - Yeah. - Okay, so defined Roguelikes have eight specific design tenets, random map generation, perma-death, turn-based combat, grid-based movement, complexity to allow multiple solutions, non-modal so that all actions can be performed at any time, resource management, and hack and slash combat. - Well, that's just like some of them, I guess. - I mean, that's some of them, yeah. - Yeah, Hades is a rogue lite. - Okay. - 'Cause it gets easier the more you go through it. - You go through it.

- Okay. - Yeah. - So it's just regression. All right. I got it. - The only rogue like then, that means- - 'Cause you don't lose absolutely everything on death. - Yeah. - But the rogue light is normally preferred because-

- You know, you get to have a progression in the game that normally doesn't allow you to have progression. - Yeah. - So that means I've played mostly rogue lights and not actual rogue lights. - Rogue lights are generally more popular. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Because it's like you get bored of doing the same thing over and over again. - Yeah. I'd say the only rogue light I've actually played is probably Furai no Shiren, which is like a really,

long standing Japanese rogue, actual rogue like where it's like, if you die, you go back to like level one, you lose everything, all that. It's fucking difficult, but really fun. But like- - But I think that like if you unlock stuff, but it's not like permanently boosts you, I think that's rogue like still. 'Cause you're getting it within the run.

- I don't really know exactly, but I know that Roguelite is basically rogue, but a little easier. 'Cause you get stat boosts as you go. But Hades is like gameplay's all revolved around that. That's how you get the story. Every time you die, there's more character interactions through the story of you dying. - God, Hades one's so fucking good. - And if you get too far on like your first runs, they'll make it harder for you so that you die. - Okay.

It's pretty annoying, but it's nice being told you're too good. Stop, stop. - Stop that. - Stop right now. - Is it procedurally generated? - Yeah. - For the most part, yeah. - Actually, you know,

- I think- - Well, because the splits, right? - The maps are set out or like this is like a different, a bunch of different maps, I think. I wonder if some of it is actually. It definitely felt like a lot of the maps were pre-done and then you just get thrown into one of them and then you split into a path based on which upgrade you want. - But the splits are all random. - 'Cause I hate procedurally generated. - In terms of like, you don't like that you can never do the same thing again or that you- - To me, I hear procedurally generated

and I hear, oh, so fun is random then. Fun is just randomized then, I guess. I don't know. Like I like knowing

that everyone's sharing the same experience or I'm sharing the same experience like everyone else playing the game. Like a big reason why I ended up playing Subnautica was I saw the gameplay. I thought, oh, this seems like a procedurally generated game, whatever, it's a survival game. But when I heard that no, everyone gets the same map, I'm like, okay, so I get to,

this is structured exactly the same way as how everyone else is going to play it. And that to me is- - Why does that matter? - Huh? - Surely you'd like, there's some games that where it makes way more sense to have procedurally generated. - Like what? - Like "Lethal Company."

Like having everything different every single time, completely random is the point. Like you wanna experience, like you can't, you shouldn't be able to go in and figure out where everything is. - Yeah. Also you get like a unique experience every time, which is like exclusive to you, which is like a whole new other experience. - And the way a lot of games can go around this is like games like "Ballatro", which is totally random. They have seeds. So when every randomly generated thing is a seed,

So there's like a, that'd be like a million seeds. And then you can basically be like, oh, if you wanted to play the same seed as me, well, you could type in the code. - Yeah, like Minecraft and games like that have that as well. - Yeah, Minecraft does that too. So it is random.

But if you wanted to experience the same everything, you easily could. - I don't know, it's like, even when you say that, I think yes, it does work for Lethal Company. - And Minecraft works for too. Minecraft wouldn't work if it was a setback. - If it was all the same, yeah. - To me, it almost feels like here's an artificial way to give you, make you,

make more content for this game and make you play for more hours without actually making more content. Does that make sense? - I understand where you're coming from. The intention isn't there. There's no thought behind every aspect. But I think for certain games, it makes way more sense to have something that is totally random and benefits from it. But I can understand wanting the experience of a

- Yeah, I think I just like having a purposeful experience that the developer intentionally made instead of just being like, eh. - What if they intended for the random though? I wouldn't say it's eh, 'cause it takes a lot of work I imagine to get that, the procedural generated right. Like the kind of layouts you wanted right.

So I imagine even though it's, I don't think it's just like computer do work. I think there's still a ton of work that goes into doing it. - Maybe I haven't played a game. Maybe I just haven't played a game where I'm like, yeah, this is it procedurally generated. All right. - You just haven't played a good roguelike yet. - Maybe that's it. - There's some really good ones. I mean, there's like a Slay the Spire. There's a Darkest Dungeon. Isn't another amazing one. You've got to play Darkest Dungeon. It's so fucking good.

- You are saying words now. Describe them to me. - Okay, okay. - Describe Darkest Dungeon. - Darkest Dungeon is, I mean, it's like the OG in terms of like, I mean, can you pick up a screenshot? I can help describe it.

you basically, you hire a bunch of mercenaries and imagine XCOM if it was a dungeon crawler. So you played XCOM, right? Or you know of XCOM? - I know of XCOM. - Okay. - Yeah. - So you'll go into a dungeon, hire your mercenaries, maybe someone will be a rogue, someone will be like a berserker and someone will be a, I don't know, a cleric. And you go into this dungeon and walk through it. - Oh yes, I have seen this. - And every now and then these enemies will pop up.

But the problem is, is that you gotta make decisions. You don't have a lot of healing and any damage they do take, you have to pay or spend a lot of money outside of combat to fix. So taking damage is a real big no-no. And in the game, you basically have to get loot and then progress and level up your dudes. But if they die, they permanently die. You have to hire a new member.

But you're going through procedurally generated dungeons and fighting enemies. But your characters also have stress. And if their stress gets too high, they have a heart attack.

- So how do you beat the game? - There is the darkest dungeon at the end, but your characters have to be max level to go to the dark stuff. - Okay, so to get to the final level, so to get to the final level, you have to do something different every time? - Every single dungeon you'll go through is procedurally generated and different. - Okay. - But as you can see,

- It's mainly like a grid layout. They'll be like, imagine if you opened a map, you literally click go this room and then you walk. And as you're walking, there might be a fight that happens. Or you might step in a side. - Or maybe nothing might happen. - See, I hate that. I would prefer- - Why? - Why? - That's so good. - It's fun. Because I would prefer like, you know, on like, you described that to me and I'm like, I would want something like Dark Souls where it's like, okay, there is an end game. You do fight through, but everything there has been

purposefully placed by the developer itself. If you beat Dark Souls, everyone knows what it means to be Dark Souls. - I think that works when you have like a one player and you're like, you are, it's a story driven and you're this one character in this giant world and your goals are very set and the story beats are there. This one doesn't, I mean, it has a story, but it's not really, it tells it through like journal notes and stuff. But the idea is that you're kind of almost,

churn through these mercenaries and you're constantly like having to be like, sorry, my favorite guy, you died. And once they're dead, they're totally dead. Actually, I think you can get them back, but it's very difficult and it takes a lot of effort, but it's really, really fun. 'Cause you kind of like,

it's literally all about like cutting losses the entire game. It's very stressful. - I like road likes and road lights because they like constantly keep you on your toes as well. 'Cause you're just like, all right, I've never been in this situation before, even though I might've played the game for like five, 10 hours at this point where I'm like, oh, okay, I don't know what to do here. One wrong move. And so you're like, you're constantly learning how to get better at the game by failing. And that in and of itself, I feel feels like progression.

- Yeah, yeah. - It's like, okay, I feel like by going through this one scenario now, the next time I come across a similar scenario, I know somewhat more than before what to do. So it feels like I'm getting closer to the end. And then when you finally do get over that and you're like, all right, sick, I'm further than I've ever been before. But now you're scared 'cause it's like, okay, at this point, I don't know what's coming up. So I might run into another situation where I get fucked up. So,

- Yeah, I don't know. I like that kind of, I get your thing as well with just like a pre-planned everything, but roguelikes and roguelites, they give like a different kind of like excitement. - It's so good. It's so good. 'Cause your characters get stress and if they get to 200 stress, they have a heart attack where they have a 50% chance of surviving it, but they get down to like one health. But at 100, I think at 100 stress,

- Sounds like "Fear and Hunger" or some shit like that. - Dude, it's so good 'cause this is something, the one that narrates is amazing, but they have this really fucking awesome mechanic that if you love gambling, it's the hypest shit ever because your character will get to a hundred stress and there'll be like a 20% chance

that he'll like prevail through the stress. - Right. - And he'll get a team wide buff. But normally what happens is that you kind of like fail it and then your team gets more stressed. And the more stress your team gets, the more debuffs they get.

So it's all about like managing stress and health. It's so good. It's really, really good. It is kind of like "Fear and Hunger" actually, but really well polished, an amazing game, and I really recommend playing it. Also "Backpack Hero" is really easy. You play it on Steam Deck. It's really cool. It's like you basically have a backpack and you're going through this dungeon and again, procedurally generated dungeon, but your weapons are what you can fit in the backpack. And you'll have like a three by three grid and your sword will be like three long, one wide.

Then maybe you'll get like a shield, but it's two by two. And then maybe you get loot. So you got to start fitting it in the bag. And then as you progress, your bag gets like, you can like add three squares. So you could add like a really long three square. It's really cool. Type in backpack hero. Really fun kind of like 30 minute game if you want to pick it up and go like a roguelike, roguelite actually. Super fun. Show a picture of the bag. It's that one there. No, no, no, no. Yeah, that one.

So your bag will have like this and then they all do like buffs and work off each other. So you have to like chuck them in. It's really fun. - Okay. - Highly recommend it if you want a little easy kind of fun one. - 30 minute game? - You can do like, yeah, 20 minute runs and like pick it up. Steam Deck, super easy, very fun. And you can see the reviews are great. Yeah, like that. It looks like that.

So enemies take turns. - That's cute. - So you start off with like that and then it gets like, yeah, it gets like crazy and you, and they'll be like, oh, if it's at the top of the bag, it'll do 10 plus damage. So then you're like, all right, I want to put it at the top. Then I gotta move shit around. So it's like Tetris dungeon crawler with loot. And then yeah, then it gets really crazy later on. You can stop doing insane combos and stuff. It's really fun. I highly recommend it if you want a really easy one. Darkest Dungeon is like this.

we're stressing out all the time. Because Darkest Dungeon also has like- - I don't like being stressed. - It has like a mechanic where like, you know, you'll click to attack an enemy, be like, "It has a 30% chance of hitting." You're like,

And you're like, I can't miss this. I can't miss the shot. You miss it, you're like. - Is Cult of the Lamb also like a roguelite? - Yeah, Cult of the Lamb is a roguelite too. - That's also a really good game as well. I really enjoyed that. - That one was like made for like streamers specifically. It's all about like getting your audience to join in. - Yeah. - Being playing that casually is really fun too. - What other roguelikes do I like? What's some of my favorite roguelikes? - They've really been kind of popping off recently, haven't they?

- That's cause they're the meme. - Or the indie game. - Yeah, the meme is indie devs when they're trying not to make it a rogue like. And it's like the vein busting in the head. Slay the Spire is very good. Dead Cells is very popular. I haven't played that one. Risk of Rain 2, I was very addicted to for a while. It's really good. What else is there? - Rogue Legacy. - What else is there? - Vampire Survival. - Vampire Survival is goaded. - Yeah, I mean, that's very good.

- I guess, yeah, Vampire Survivors would be a roguelike, huh? Or roguelite. - Roguelite, yeah. - Is there a triple A roguelike game? Or is it all indie games? - No, I don't think so. - Or is it all indie games? - Well, I think 'cause it's like, I imagine it's risky to make a game that has

just a gameplay loop and not like- - I mean, it's risky to make a game period. - Yeah, well, exactly. - It takes a lot of time. - If you have to go to your higher up and you're like, all right, we're gonna make them play the same game over and over again. And they're like, what? No, we need set pieces, we need this. Oh, inscription, oh, it's one of the best games of all time. You gotta play inscription. It's so fucking good. - Card game?

- I think I've heard about this one actually. - Don't look anything up about it. It's the best fucking game ever. - Okay. - It's so good. - Yeah, there's a lot I wanna play. - Slay the Spies is a really good one. I haven't played it there, but-

Everyone says they like that. That one's a card based dungeon crawler. - Shadow Corridor too, as well as one that I've seen a few people play. - Yeah. - There's so many good ones. I mean, I think the genre is just perfect for indie games 'cause you can kind of make a core mechanic and just kind of like really nail it down and kind of just go through,

like the same kind of gameplay world over and over again. But when you have a really fun mechanic, you're like, I don't give a fuck. I'll do the same thing over and over again. - Oh yeah. - This reminds me of the genre I recently got into, not a game, but I recently made a video about this, about how like, oh, I've given up on Isekai. Spoiler, I haven't given up on Isekai. - I was like, what happened? What did I get told? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Haven't completely given up, but.

I've been getting into webtoons and web comics recently. And-

- I don't really know why because a lot of them are definitely not as good as manga is. Have you guys ever read any web comics at all? Any webtoons? - I've read a few. - Like Solo Leveling, Tower of God? - I did for like a sponsor. - Anything? - I've read a bunch of like manwas and like, yeah, a couple of like Japanese web comics and stuff. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So I didn't realize this, but basically, you know, so Japan has manga.

Korea has Manhwa and China has Manhwa, right? And they all have like their equivalent of let's say the isekai genre, which is no matter what country, no matter, you know, there will always be- - No matter what country you are, I'm a gamer. - Yeah, there will always be a way to throw some shitty power fantasy, like kind of like bullshit. And they, and it's,

Every different country has its own genre. So in Korea, a genre, Korean web comics, a genre that is massive is this genre called regression.

which is basically a roguelike. So the entire genre is all about some guy- - Multiple isokai. - Multiple isokai. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Some guy does something- - Motherfuckers from one reincarnation is in the house. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no. So one guy does something, he dies or something happens and then he travels back in time. He travels back in time to an earlier point in his life with all of the knowledge that he has of the future.

And it's basically, it's basically Re:Zero. You know, it's basically Re:Zero, but just imagine an entire genre based around this, but just it not being as good as Re:Zero. - The 25 best regression man. - Holy shit. - There is way more than 25. - There's a top 25? - There is way more than 25. I can say, I don't think there are 25 good ones. There are like- - How many good ones are there?

- So it depends, right? It depends. - Out of this list here, do you know of any? - "My Daughter's the Final Boss," that's good. "How to Be," "How to Use a Ret..." Okay, the problem with all of these titles is that 90, like Isekai, look at these and tell me how many of them sound like the same shit. - I mean, I sleep on all of them, to be honest. - "Metaling with the Gods," "Returning of the Mad Demon."

- Triple F class trash hero. I kinda wanna read that one. - Reborn rich. - A man's man? - A man's man is actually good. - Oh, I love number 14. Returning with absolutely nothing. - A man's man is good. Chosen saves the world is good. - Father, I don't want this marriage.

- Bro, some of these, some of these, the fantasy of a stepmother. Okay, I need to read that one. - I'm down for that. - Oh, I was awake for that one. - Oh God, I need to read that one. But yeah, it's something, I don't know. I've not, I found it harder to read manga recently just because I've really liked reading physical volumes. But for some reason, web comics,

Even though I think in general, the level of quality is way worse than what you can find in manga. I feel like the ease of access makes it a lot better. If I actually have a- - Yeah, reading manga is kind of tough. - Was that sarcastic? - Yeah.

- So difficult guys. - No, no, I mean, it's about the feeling. It's about the feeling. - Okay, okay. - It's about the feeling. - Sorry. - No, one medical return, that's pretty good as well. - These look like fanfics. - I'm not, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them did start off as fanfictions. No, actually one that I do generally recommend though is this one called Omniscient Reader's Viewpoints, which I think,

could have the potential to be like, if it gets an anime adaptation, it has the potential to be- - Navi's struggling to spell omniscient. - It's okay, Navi. It's okay, it's okay. It took me ages to like, how do I pronounce- - I think it's omniscient. - Omniscient, omniscient, omniscient.

- There you go, read his viewpoint. There it is. - Yeah, problem is this looks from the cover, all of these web comics look generic as fuck. - Yeah, they all look shit. - Yeah, they really do. - This one's basically free on Webtoon, so it's an easy, easy read. - Let's read the synopsis of this. - All right.

average office worker whose sole interest was reading his favorite web novel, "Three Ways to Survive the Apocalypse." They wrote a web novel inside a web novel? Okay. - Yeah. - But when the novel suddenly becomes reality, he is the only person who knows how the world will end. Armed with this realization, Dr. Joe uses his understanding to change the course of the story and the world as he knows it.

- Bro, it's so good. It's so good. - That synopsis just- - That synopsis does not do justice, man. - All right, let me give you a better synopsis of this. Let me give you a better- - All right, go on, do it, go on. - This guy, all right. - Chad? - Huh? - Chad? - Uh, actual Chad. - It looks like Chad. - He's the guy on the left. But basically he is committed to reading this shitty ass fucking web novel.

that is like the fucking filthiest trash that he gets to chapter 3000, I believe. - Dude, that's like you. No wonder you like this shit. - I'm like, yo, he just like me for real. - What the hell? No wonder you like this shit. - He just like me for real, man. But then he's the only one who reads up to the end. And as soon as he gets to the end points, it turns out that everything that happens in this web novel, which is kind of like a death game,

starts to happen in reality. And he's given one ability and that's the ability to, that's having this web novel on his phone and he can read it really fast. So basically he has all of knowledge of what is- - You're not selling me on this. - He has all of knowledge of what is going to happen

what is gonna happen in this death game. - If you say it's gonna be good, I actually trust you, but the way you're describing it makes it sound better. - What I'm hearing is this is just "Mirai Nikki," but a web novel.

- Mirai Nikki, is that a death game? - Yes. - Oh yeah, that is a death game. - It's Mirai Nikki where they can read into the future. - I'd say it's more like Squid Game, if anything, where the thing that makes us- - Come on, Joe, it's Korean. - It's Korean, it's Korean, Joe, it's Korean. - It's Squid Game. - It's Squid Game, but the thing that makes us- - Squid-like. - Squid-like. - Okay, yes, it is a Squid-like. This is a Squid-like story. - Okay, Squid-like story. - The thing that makes us stand out is this is one of the most,

meta pieces of media I've like ever read in my life. So what happens is that he actually meets the protagonist of the story that's of his reading. And like the protagonist of the story, he's a fucking dick, but he's also overpowered as shit, right? So using his knowledge of the characters, he has to find a way to be friends all of the characters from this story in order to survive this game and kind of like take advantage

of all of the characteristics and all the powers they have. And using that knowledge and using, you know, being able to befriend all these characters, he's able to take advantage of the systems in the storyline in each of the death games.

in a kind of like a local rising kind of way. So- - I'm awake. I think they should get you to write these fucking synopsis 'cause like you did a so much better job than whatever that was. - Yeah, this basically what makes this sound out is it's someone who's obviously read a lot of trashy power fantasy stuff. And he's like, how can I take all of these elements and just kind of like make a meta thing

that not really satirizes it, but just takes the parts you see the most and tries to make an interesting story out of it. - Right, right. - And this is it. I feel like this could be, this pops off harder than something like solo leveling nowadays. - Sounds kind of cool when you put it like that. - Yeah, and to me, I'm like, have you seen the solo leveling anime at all? - No. - I've seen up to episode

whatever the recap episode was, seven? - Oh, you've seen, yeah, you've seen up to episode seven. - I've seen up to episode 7.5. - Bro, I forgot how boring the beginning of solo leveling is, man. - Yeah, I was like, I've heard this moment was really fucking good. So I gave it a watch and I'm like, when does this get good? - I think it starts to get good from memory, right? From memory. It starts to, I wouldn't even say, good is like- - Oh no.

- Good is a, hey, do you like Sword Art Online? But more of the same. It starts to get good, I think at the end of season one. But considering that even like Mr. Beast was watching solo leveling, I was surprised how many people were actually watching this and thinking that it was good.

- I got fooled. - People are dumb. - This is gonna go on Twitter. This is gonna go on Twitter. - I got fooled because like every single person I know of who's like read the original "Solo Leveling" Manwa was just hyping on about like how fucking amazing this was. And they were like trying to sell it to me. You were trying to sell it to me. - It's the same thing with "One Piece." "One Piece" fans forget how boring the sound of "One Piece" is. - Right. - But "One Piece" has a really good plot. - "Solo Leveling," the web comic, the reason it pops off so much was because just the

- The art is insane. - The art is godlike and during some of the action scenes, during some of the hype scenes, it fucking pops off and I totally agree with that. And what it does well, it does really well. Problem is when you take that to animation, we've had "Jujutsu Kaisen" season two, we've had "Demon Slayer", we've set the bar that high for action scenes that pop off. And the action scenes are so leveling,

- They're all right. They're all right, they're not bad. - Yeah, they're all right. - You've seen them, you've seen them, right? They're all right, they're not bad, but they're definitely not at that level of some of the top action anime that we've seen. And if it can't reach that level, then it's like- - Unfortunately people are not gonna care as much. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unfortunately people are not going to care as much about it. So point is,

- Don't read "Soda Leveling." Go read "Omnition Reader's Viewpoint." I'm off the "Soda Leveling" train. "Omnition Reader's Viewpoint." Please make that a big thing. 'Cause I would love to see an anime about that. - I watched all of "Fallout." That was really good. - Is it worth the hype? - Yeah, it's so good. - Oh, really? - It's so good. - Another show I need to watch. - I know nothing about "Fallout." - I've never watched "Fallout." I've never played a game of "Fallout." I don't know anything. And the fucking show is amazing. It's so good. You gotta watch it. - Yeah, I definitely want to.

- And then inadvertently you're watching Arcane 'cause the main girl plays a character in Arcane. - So is Fallout based on any one of the games or is it more based on just the world? - I don't know. - Have you played a Fallout game? - No. - Okay. - I mean, they set up the world and they set up a mystery and it's really good. - I think it's original, right? I'm pretty sure. - Yeah, I think it takes some stuff from the game. I think some people were actually annoyed 'cause apparently it,

it did something that goes against one of the second happened in the game or something like that. - I've only played three. - Either way, it's an amazing show. Watch it, it was so fucking good. - We are in a golden age of good video game adaptations now. - Yeah, watching this was like, shit, this could like- - Well now hang on, let's wait for Borderlands to come out. - You had told me this like,

Obviously I don't know much about Fallout and even if it wasn't attached to a game, it was so good that I would just think, yeah, this is just a triple A TV show. Like whatever the fuck that means. I don't know what we say. - Triple A TV show. - It felt like the quality is insane of the show. It's so good. And all the effects are awesome too. Everything looks amazing. Like they've really gone above and beyond. And like, I'm very glad they didn't really show much about the show beforehand.

They just kind of came out and people were like, wait, this shit's amazing. It's amazing. - I definitely want to watch it. - It's so, so good. - What makes it good? - Dude, you know, I'm not eloquent like you, Garnt. I can't explain it. - What did you like about it? - The world made sense. Like everything made sense in the world. I really liked- - Let's play this game, okay? What's the show we've both seen recently? - Shogun, Shogun. - You watched all of Shogun? Did you finish it? - Episode nine.

- What the fuck you're on like, there's eight episodes, right? - No, there's 10 episodes. - Is it 10? How many episodes are there in Shogun? - I think it's 10. - Is it really? - Have you finished Shogun motherfucker? Have you finished Shogun? - I have, I have, I have. - Yeah, 10 episodes. - It felt like eight. - Yeah, I mean, I watched all the episodes that were out, which was nine episodes. - I mean, it's done, it's over. - So I kind of can guess what's going to happen. All right, what do you like about Shogun?

- I like that the British guy goes around saying savages. That's fun. I like that part. I don't know. It's just a great story and also a great political thriller, if you will. - Okay, okay. - I don't know. It kind of does- - It is, by the way. The writing of the characters is immaculate. - Yeah, every character feels like legit and like they have that reasoning, which is so rare 'cause sometimes you're like, "Why is this character doing this?" Oh, just because the show- - Just to fill the space. - It's like because he's doing it.

Cause we needed him to not because he had a, this is in his characteristic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and I completely agree. So what'd you like about fallouts? That's a great question, Garnt. Um,

- Something, something, Max. No, there's Max though. - Okay. - I like how there's this three concurrent perspectives of the story being told and all of them have their own motivations for trying to figure out what's going on or to continue going forward in this world. - So you said there was a mystery or something as well. - There is a mystery. There is a mystery. And the mystery is really well told. And even though you find out most of the mystery, there's still more to be found. And also the answers for the mysteries are satisfying. Not like erased.

- See, I'm so proud of my boy. - There you go, there you go. - All right, you've sold me on "Fallout." You've sold me on "Fallout." - The mystery's really, really good. - Yeah, yeah. - You'd love it. It's a gaunt show. - I love mystery shows. I love having a mystery to work towards. - It's also very funny.

- It's actually funny. It's like a few times I was laughing out loud. I was like, okay, it's pretty fucking good. - Okay, okay, you've sold me. I've heard that the main girl was the same girl that voiced Jinx in "Arcane" as well. - Dude, her eyes are so anime. - Yeah, they're huge. - She's huge eyes. - She reminds me of- - It's like some Alita shit. - Yeah, Alita Batalanger, right? - God damn. - Yeah, okay. - And also it's very gory.

When someone gets shot, they like, you see everything. - In the game, they fucking like explode. - Yeah, yeah. Like some people get shot and they just fully explode. Also his practical effect on his face is so good. He's actually wearing like all this makeup stuff and it looks so good. It's really cool. - Yeah, I really wanna watch it.

- All right. - So many shows to watch. - Watch one episode of this and I guarantee you'll put everything else in the background. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I know I'm gonna enjoy this. - I did. I was like, I'm gonna watch one episode tonight. - This and Shogun are definitely my top two. - Yeah, it's this, Shogun and, well, this is on my watch list, but it was like Shogun and Invincible that was like- - Oh yeah, Invisible 2 is one I didn't watch. - Oh, I guess I'm not watching anime for a while. I guess, oh no, I'm not reading manga as well. - I mean, don't even get me started on Invincible. They brought it out. There's like two episodes out.

Oh, really? Oh, no. It's four. It's like four because they have the off-season break. Oh.

- I mean, it's still a lot of episodes. - Well, season one was what? Eight episodes? - This one's eight episodes as well. - They split it into half a year. - Yeah, but what confused me at the beginning, I was like, oh, they're doing a 40 minute premiere. Then I didn't realize every episode was 40 minutes. So it's basically a double season in a sense from the first season. - No, the first season was also 42 and a half, 60 minutes long. - Was it? - Yeah, it is.

- The guy you girl mathed your way into thinking you'd do four episodes. - Maybe I'm just anime peeled and I was just like, this is an animated show. - Not every TV series is 20 minutes per episode. - I'm pretty sure the first episode of Invincible is like an hour long. - Yeah, it's really long. - I was anime peeled and I was like, oh, it's an animated show. - 51, 48, 45. - Yeah, they're all like 45 minutes. - The last episode is like over an hour. - Okay.

- Oh, 48, okay. - Yeah, they're all like 40 to 50, I swear. - Okay. - Yeah. - I made that the fuck up. - And then the exact same thing, but then split it in half, so you only got to watch like four episodes, then you had to wait a year. - Okay, I'm gonna wait till it's fully out then before I watch it. - Well, it is, it is fully out now. The two seasons are fully out. - Oh, they're full, fuck. - Yeah, so now you can watch them. - Another thing I have to watch then. - I would say that, I would say you can just watch season one. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - If you want a more complete. - Whoa, whoa. - I mean, I've seen season one. - What the fuck are you talking about, Garnt? You just watched season one, what the hell?

- Season two is good, but it didn't feel like it was, I don't know. - Season two is setting up for season three, four. - It didn't feel like as complete as season one was. Season two was like it ended and I was like, I feel like it was like halfway through the storyline, the story arc. - Well, yeah, I mean, 'cause there's a bunch of self contained stories and also obviously we're mainly on earth. So that one's kind of like covering that relationship and then season two is kind of building up

the kind of universe, literally. - Sounds like "Attack on Titan" then. - Kinda, yeah, I'd say so in the sense that- - Season two was the build up. - Well, you have the scope and then season two pulls out like this and you're like, oh. - And then season three was when it all just hit the fan, right?

- Season two did feel like it was shutting up. - Are we really gonna argue on this? - Yes. I'm just thinking about it before I say something potentially stupid. - Oh, who the fuck cares? - Yeah, who the fuck cares? I just said it to get people pissed off. I don't give a fuck. - Yeah, point is I felt like "Invincible" season one, I finished that, I felt satisfied. "Invincible" season two, I finished that, I was like, I do not feel satisfied. - Not as satisfied. - Because I don't feel like I've seen a complete

complete storyline arc. - Invincible felt like, you know when like Castlevania season one dropped and you're like, holy shit, this goes hard. - Yeah. - Season one of this. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Castlevania was like, came out of nowhere. You're like, what the fuck is this? Why is it so good? - It's insanely good. - Why is everyone British? It's so good. - This is all you need with Connor. Just give someone like a British accent and you're like, actually, literally when- - I'm invested. - What I've realized, if you just have British voice actors,

I'm biased in stuff. They just sound so good. They always sound so good. - They do, yeah, they do. - Except for the, what is the game? What is the Nintendo game? - "Dungeon Blade." - "Dungeon Blade." - Oh, wait. - Did that have British voice actors in it? - Well, 'cause they took the British voice actors, they were like, could you sound like anime? - Wait, was it Rex or Shulk? No, actually both of them were British voice actors. - Rex was awesome. - That was 'cause they made British people sound anime. And I was like, and the reason why like,

- Fucking, Castlevania was good. It was like, just pretend you're in like modern day UK. And they were like, all right, we gotta go fucking kill some fucking- - Well, not modern day UK. - It is basically modern day UK. I think the poverty is as bad in Castlevania and modern day UK.

- I don't think there's much difference. - We just don't have a Dracula. Have you been to Birmingham Garden? - I was gonna say, how far north are we going? - Yeah, it depends. You're a cushy southern. You'll come to the north garden, you'll see. You'll be like, "Wow, they really had it pretty good in Castlevania." You get the pubs open. It's safe in the pub. - I was like, "Oh my God, Castlevania is real. I didn't realize this."

- Why is the new Castlevania season kinda eh? - I haven't seen it yet. - Wait, really? It's a new season? - They have a brand new like storyline. - Oh shit, really? - What is it called? - Which one? - It's like Castlevania like Nocturne or something. - Wait, there's six seasons now? - Well, it was technically season five, right? - Oh Jesus.

- Yeah. Oh yeah, it's new characters. - Yeah, so we had, what was it? Four seasons of the original Castlevania? - Four seasons of the original one. - And so now there's Castlevania Nocturne, which I heard was eh, which is why I didn't watch it. - I think it was, I mean, it's great. I think there's just some things we were like,

And then I think they're mainly setting up for season two and three, which you never want that to the first season to be doing that. - Is this like, well, who's the main character of this? - Some two new characters. - Okay. Is it like their descendant? - Oh, it's Richter. It's Richter Belmont. - Yeah, Richter. - Yeah. - So they went Boruto in this shit, man? - I guess, yeah. - I guess so. - I mean, they just, yeah.

- It's Castlevania board. - That's why it's there. - I also didn't like the show 'cause they showed them throwing the tea in the harbor in Boston. I was like, get that shit out of there. It opens up with like a traumatic event happening there. I was like, yeah, me too, man.

- So it's from the American- - Alucard is in it. I don't wanna spoil it, but Alucard is in it too. - Okay. - He's literally Sasuke. - Okay. - Oh, fuck. - Alucard is the Sasuke. - Alucard is the Sasuke of Castlevania. - Oh, God. - God, Castlevania was so good. - It was so good. - I love that. Did you finish Castlevania? - Yeah. - Did you finish it too? - I think I got to season three. I haven't seen season four yet. - I love how like every now and then the dialogue between the fight between

- Simon, Simon is it? - No, it wasn't Simon. It was the one guy from "Castlevania 3". - Main character, what's the main character? - Yeah, what the fuck's the main character from "Castlevania 3"? - His fight versus death. The dialogue, the dialogue is so fucking funny out of context. - I don't remember. - Can I show God? Do you care to see what the dialogue was? - I don't care. - Can you type in a funny dialogue, "Castlevania death fight". I don't know.

- Oh shit. - Brilliant. - Funny. Okay, maybe it's. - Yeah, Netflix Castlevania. Try putting that down. - It was so funny. Oh no. It's literally the most like,

Out of context, it sounds so fucking ridiculous. Trevor Belmont, that's his name. Yeah, Trevor, Trevor. Trevor versus death. Like, yeah, is this it? It's just like the dialogue is so weird. You don't make anything. You don't live. You just eat and hide. Is there a point to this? Are you dictating your fucking obituary to me, Belmont? It's time for us to go. And who's going to make me go? You? With your bit of string in your hand? It is.

- It's just such weird dialogue for like death. - Yeah, I think there's definitely more funny bits, but yeah, it's just like, what is this dialogue? It's just so unique. I'm like, that's why I fucking love this show. It's just so fucking stupid. The final boss is like- - The thing that stood out to me about the first few "Castlevanias" seasons was like, it's rare just to see banter done well. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - So a lot of times, especially in just the new fucking, this new wave of like Marvel movies or something, everyone tries to write banter,

but a lot of times it just sounds like, oh, let's quip. - I saw that Chris Hemsworth was like, he said that he regretted that how much they went off the script on like Thor, Love and Thunder. - Love and Thunder, have you seen it? - Yeah. - I still haven't seen it. - Yeah, shit. It's just like him being like, oh yeah, mate, every like five seconds and just joking. It's just like not funny. But I think I'm glad that now,

- Someone has to like reel it in, you know? - I mean, I think they have now, so many of the Marvel movies have lost money. - No one's watching them anymore. - It's just boring. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been like five years. I saw it was like, I think five years since,

and the end game fight or something like that. And I was like, it's been five fucking years. What the fuck? Since that massive cultural moment. - Still haven't seen it. - Madden web, yeah. - Oh yeah, Madden web. - Is that even a Marvel movie? - Yeah, it's Spider-Man. - Yeah, but that's like, there's like the MCU and then there's like,

- And then there's like the Sony Marvel shit or whatever. - I don't know. - Whatever the Morbius is. - Either way, I'm glad it's over. At least once every month we shit on Marvel. Happy for it to be done. - I just want one more, one more to be good. Maybe we'll get one more. - Well, that's it for today. - Yeah. - Hope you guys enjoyed our ramblings.

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