cover of episode 846: This Is the Cake We Baked

846: This Is the Cake We Baked

2024/11/10
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Alexander Vindman
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Ike Sriskandarajah
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Lili Sullivan
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Miki Meek
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Nadia Reiman
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Rachel Vindman
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Zoe Chace
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Zoe Chace: 密歇根州共和党胜利派对的氛围出乎意料地积极乐观,与她之前预期的紧张气氛大相径庭。支持者们对结果充满信心,并表达了对特朗普执政时期怀旧之情,认为那时生活水平更高。 密歇根州共和党人士:他们认为特朗普的政策使他们能够更好地生活,并为家庭提供更好的保障,因此他们怀念特朗普的执政时期,并相信特朗普能够带领美国重回过去的光辉岁月。 Danny Hodges: 作 为1月6日国会大厦袭击事件的受害者,Hodges对特朗普再次当选感到震惊和困惑,对许多人仍然支持特朗普感到不解。他认为,特朗普的行为以及对民主制度的冲击,并没有被大多数人重视。 Nadia Reiman和Jason Hauser: 他们探讨了特朗普政府可能实施大规模驱逐出境的可能性及具体操作方案。Hauser详细阐述了ICE可能采取的策略,包括目标群体的选择、行动方式、拘留场所以及可能驱逐的人数。他们认为,大规模驱逐出境在操作上是可行的,但将对美国经济、执法和社会造成严重的连锁反应。 Lili Sullivan: 来自厄瓜多尔的移民Roberto对可能的大规模驱逐出境感到恐惧,他详细描述了他对ICE突袭的想象,以及他对自身安全的担忧,突显了大规模驱逐出境对弱势群体的潜在影响。 Ike Sriskandarajah和Sam Negron: 他们探讨了特朗普赢得创纪录数量拉丁裔选民的原因。Negron分享了他如何通过解释特朗普言论的潜在含义以及强调民主党未能满足拉丁裔选民的需求,成功地争取到一些拉丁裔选民的支持。这表明,对民主党的不满以及对特定议题的关注,是影响拉丁裔选民投票选择的重要因素。 Alexander Vindman和Rachel Vindman: 这对夫妇对特朗普可能采取的报复行动表示担忧,但他们目前计划留在美国,并密切关注事态发展。他们对特朗普的未来行动表示担忧,并列举了一些他们将密切关注的指标。 Miki Meek, Kimberly Pasica和Deborah Dorbert: 她们讨论了在堕胎权利公投中,一些女性在电视广告中分享了她们的经历,以及在公投失败后的感受。她们表达了她们的疲惫和失望,并反思了她们未来的行动。这反映了堕胎权问题在美国社会中的争议性和复杂性。

Deep Dive

Key Insights

Why did Trump win record numbers of Latino voters in the 2024 election?

Trump won record numbers of Latino voters due to targeted outreach efforts by activists like Sam Negron, who worked to convert Latino voters by addressing their frustrations with Democrats and reframing controversial comments, such as the 'island of garbage' remark, as a critique of environmental mismanagement in Puerto Rico.

What are the potential consequences of Trump's proposed mass deportation plan?

Mass deportations could lead to significant economic and social disruptions, including inflation due to workforce shortages, small business closures, and a chilling effect on law enforcement activities. Additionally, migrants may go deeper into hiding, and communities could experience widespread fear and unrest.

How did the Republican victory party in Michigan react to Trump's win?

The Republican victory party in Michigan was ecstatic, with attendees cheering and expressing confidence in Trump's victory early in the night. Activists like Eric Castiglia and Amber Harris highlighted their extensive grassroots efforts, including door-knocking in traditionally Democratic areas like Detroit, as key to the win.

What are the concerns of Danny Hodges, a Capitol police officer, following Trump's victory?

Danny Hodges, a Capitol police officer injured during the January 6th attack, expressed confusion and disappointment over Trump's victory. He hoped his testimony about the events of January 6th would lead to greater respect for the rule of law and the Constitution, but fears Trump may pardon those involved in the attack.

What is the potential impact of Trump's mass deportation plan on immigration enforcement?

Trump's mass deportation plan could involve large-scale raids, militarized enforcement, and the use of tent camps or repurposed warehouses to detain immigrants. ICE could prioritize deporting individuals from countries like Haiti and Guatemala, which accept deportation flights, and target industries with high migrant employment.

How did the Vindmans react to Trump's victory and his threats of retribution?

The Vindmans, particularly Rachel, expressed concern over Trump's threats of retribution, including the possibility of losing retirement benefits or facing legal action. While Alex remains committed to staying in the U.S., Rachel is considering all options, including leaving the country if necessary.

What was the outcome of the abortion rights measures in the 2024 election?

Seven out of ten abortion rights measures passed in the 2024 election, but Florida's measure failed despite receiving 57% of the vote, as it required 60% to pass. Women like Deborah Dorbert, who shared their personal stories in ads, expressed disappointment and exhaustion over the ongoing fight for abortion rights.

What strategies did Sam Negron use to convert Latino voters to support Trump?

Sam Negron used personal outreach, reframing controversial comments like the 'island of garbage' remark as critiques of environmental mismanagement, and addressing Latino voters' frustrations with Democrats. He focused on policy over feelings, emphasizing Trump's perceived effectiveness over Democratic failures.

Shownotes Transcript

With Donald Trump’s victory this week, many people looked at the election results and thought, yeah, this is the country I thought it was. For some people, that was a hopeful thing. For others, kind of the opposite. This week, we talked with people who helped make it happen and some who are looking to what’s next.

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  • Prologue: Ira talks with Zoe Chace about watching Trump’s victory from an ecstatic room in Michigan. Then he checks in with a DC cop who was injured at the Capitol on January 6. (7 minutes)
  • Act One: Trump has claimed that he will be able to deport between 15 and 20 million people. But neither he nor his team have spelled out exactly how they’d do it. Producer Nadia Reiman looked into what mass deportation could actually look like on the ground if and when it comes to pass. (17 minutes)
  • Act Two: Trump won record numbers of Latino voters this year. Ike Sriskandarajah spent the day with a guy in Pennsylvania who's been working to bring Latino voters to Trump for years. (15 minutes)
  • Act Three: Ira talks with two of Trump’s “political enemies” about their post-election plans. (8 minutes)
  • Act Four: Ten different states had abortion rights measures on their ballots this election. Producer Miki Meek got curious about a particular kind of political ad that aired in many of those states and called up a few of the women whose stories were featured in them. (9 minutes)

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