Session 44: Sofia Richie Grainge
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Hello and welcome back pussies to Therapus. It is time for the season 2 premiere and I have so many updates to share with you guys. For the season 2 premiere of Therapus, I thought there would be no better guest than someone I so desperately wanted to be on season 1. And that is one of my best best friends, Sophia Ritchie Grange.

She is like the older sister I've never had. I always go to her for advice, for questions, for comfort. And, you know, I'm just, I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her more. Like I know her because she is so, she's such an incredible mother and friend and wife and business woman and, and,

I don't really know what else to say besides the fact that I love her and she's the best. And I'm so grateful that she chose Therapus to make her podcast debut. And with Therapus season two returning, so does SeatGeek.

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I'm so loud. I know. I know. People listen to this in their ears. It's so crazy how loud you are. Okay, I'm going to throw up. Okay, no, you're okay. I promise. I'm nervous too. We have a very, very, very, very special guest today. Sophia Ritchie Grange. Hi. Hi, Thea. Hi. Can I make a comment? Okay. Okay.

Sorry, I hate to... No, it's just... Okay. How are you meant to hold this microphone? Okay, so this is Sophia's first podcast. Yeah. Okay, so I think you hold it like this.

It's awkwardly thick. It is very thick. May I mention? Well, it used to be in a thing, and then we pulled it out. It's feeling like it needs to be... In a thing? In a thing. Do you think it should be in a thing? Maybe like season two should be in a thing. I'm happy... I'm happy to take the hit on this episode. Okay, okay. But I'm feeling like... There's new furniture. I can feel your nerves. Should we take a shot? Do you want to take a shot? I'm sorry. I need to take a shot.

It's 7 p.m. on a Friday. Like, we got to do it. I'm going to throw up. Are you okay? I'm going to throw up. Okay, let's take a shot. Okay, okay. See, this is going to make me throw up. Well, you're Chaser. With her poppy eyes. Jake. Why isn't it chilled? Wait. That was really bad. Wait, that was really bad. And I'm wet now all over. Okay, I already feel better. Okay. I already feel better. I'm feeling really bad now. Okay. It's fine. I feel so much better.

Did you finish it? I did. Did you? No. Yeah. Should I? Do it. You were going to say, of course. Yeah, just do it. Finish it. A little. Do you guys think we're doing a good job? We are. How are we doing so far? Very funny. Okay. Okay. Good. Giggles are appreciated. Like if you need to giggle, let it out. We have an audience today. It's like a live show. It's a live show. Okay. Hi, Soph. Hi, Soph.

What are we going to talk about? I don't know because we do see each other every day. So it is a bit weird to be in a formal setting. Yeah, this feels wrong. And try to talk about things. Yeah. Okay. I'm so sorry. I'm so awkward with my hands. No, you're not awkward. You're not awkward.

Where's your jacket from? Oh, it's St. Laurent. Oh, it's gorgeous. Thank you so much. Do you want to tell us where your outfit's from? Sure. I'm wearing vintage Levi's. Okay. A Kate t-shirt. Oh, okay. And a St. Laurent jacket. Okay. What about you? Honestly, I think this is James. I know this is James Purse. Okay. And this is James Purse too. Okay. I've upgraded. Cheers to that.

How's that Louise today? She's great. She's like sleeping and eating. And fighting with me. And fighting with you. On text. On text.

Eloise has a little baby phone. She does. That we like to text, or I like to text. Yes. And I say, good morning, Eloise. Yes. And Sophia responds usually, but today, Allie took the phone. So whoever's with Eloise gets the phone. So at that very moment, Allie was sitting with Eloise, and you texted her, and would you like to tell the story? I said, Eloise, do you mind if me and your mommy talk about how perfect you are on the podcast today? And she said, no. Keep my name out of your mouth. Okay.

And I said, Eloise, excuse me? She said, I hate you. And I said, okay, Eloise. We had a talking. Eloise has a little bit of an attitude. Eloise has a little bit of an attitude, but you are the best mother in the whole world. I love you. I love you too. Okay.

Enough about this. Okay. Tell me about what we're going to be talking about today. I have never done a podcast before. This feels right. I feel like you're going to have a lot of fun. Okay. Tell me more about this. Do you want to talk about... So usually I'm like, I talk about, I ask my guest what they're angry about today. Oh. Do you have anything you're a therapist about today? My AC broke. What?

What? Yeah. In the whole house? My AC broke and you know I'm angry about it. Why? Because I just got a new AC. Wait, how did it break? Elliot's probably so happy. Happy? Because he sleeps at like 80 degrees. No, no, no. The humidity in my house is like I'm in Florida. How bad is it, you guys? It's hot. It's really bad. So did it break today?

It's been broken, but it finally was diagnosed as broken today. And so what are you, is it getting fixed today? I have to get all new AC systems. But you just got a new AC system. This feels like a problem that like no one will care about. Everyone's like, no, trust me. I want to hear what I'm therapist about today. Yeah. I sneezed really hard yesterday and sprained my chest.

I swear to God. I swear to God. So quick question. Were you diagnosed with this? Yes. It's my intercostal muscle. And who diagnosed you with that? The comment section. The comment section. Cause I can't squeeze my breasts together. Could you ever? Yeah. Like sometimes like I like to play dress up and put like a towel around and strut. Really? You want to see a video? Yeah, I do. Oh, it's a draft. Oh Jesus Christ. Yeah.

Oh. Oh. Wow. I'm really confused. So I can't do that anymore. Can I tell you what I'm confused about? A little bit, yeah. What does it have to do with you springing your chest? Because I... Springing. Springing. I take the towel and I tie it around my boobs and I basically tape them together. Okay. And now I can't do that. That's a problem. Yeah, so that's what I'm pissed about personally. I'd be upset about that too. That sounds frustrating. Should we talk about...

The first time. Well, okay. The first time. Okay. So a lot of people think we're cousins. Which I'm down for the narrative. I'm down. I've never corrected anyone. You know, I didn't correct anyone. Obsessed. But the first time we met was Elliot's old house. Yeah. And then the second time we met, I blacked out and cried into your arms. Yeah. And that was the moment where I was like, are we going to be friends forever?

Or are we not? Because Alice called me and she said, hey, Jake, so Sophia asked what was wrong with you? Yeah. So I've had a lot of experiences with drunk people where I'm like, whoa, that person's drunk. But this...

This took it places. There was drama for the night. There was like something going on and Sophia was like, what happened? I don't remember that. So if you would like to enlighten the pussies. Yeah, so I met Jake maybe like once. It was once. Literally once. And I was very excited to see you again. I didn't want to make you feel bad, but it was once. Yeah, it was once. And he was like, I'm really, really sad. Which Jake says every time I see him. Now that I'm thinking about it. It's...

Ali told me the other day, she said this anxiety bit is getting old. It's getting really old. It's getting really old. So anyway, he was like, I'm sad. And I was like, oh God. It was like 1 a.m. We'd been like at a party for a few hours. I was like, oh, not the time, new friend. Not the time. But I was like...

Oh no. And then he literally busted out into tears. And so I consult him as any person, nice person would. Right. For like an appropriate amount of time. It was like 30 minutes. Oh, I'm not sure if I know about the rest of this. And then it didn't stop. And so I was like, I will be right back. And so I kind of like,

I felt bad, but I kind of ran away. Right. And I was like, ah, new friend is scaring me. Little did you know. I was like, ah. And you just kept finding me and kept re-bringing back up the tears. Right. So my takeaway from the night was like, what a night. Alice said, hey, did you cry into Sophia's arms? I said, what are you talking about? She said, well, we were at dinner and she said, what's going on with your friend Jake? Yeah. And I said, got it.

Yeah. And I would just like to say I've had scaries all throughout my life. That was the most scared I'd ever been. No, but we texted about it and we were like, a few weeks after. Yeah. Obviously, because we need we both needed some space. You needed space. I was like ready to FaceTime. But once we once we got over it, it was it was like at the end of the tunnel. It was it was. Now you're here. I'm sweating. Me too. Everywhere. Should we stand up? OK. Yeah.

I'm a little lightheaded. Maybe it's feeling like too stiff. Okay. I feel better. And I got a very special wine for Sophia today. It's her favorite sassiasa. No. What is it? What is it? Sassi-kaya. That is not how you pronounce. Cheers. Cheers. Eyes. But we just had tequila. Mm-mm-mm.

Oh, no. It's a beautiful wine. Yeah. It's a really... I have trouble with wine. If you want, I can tequila with you. No, no, no. Let's wine. No, can I tell you why it's a bad idea to wine? Why? Because we'll fall asleep. Because it's red. Our mouth is going to be red. And then we're going to look back on this in 10 years and be like, A, we're so embarrassing, and B, our mouth...

AKA. It's funny because you would think I've watched your podcast. You would think that because we are so close, this would be an easy one for you and me. I've done very uncomfortable things and so have you. This is the most uncomfortable. And we're both freaking out. I don't know why I'm freaking out so much, but you know what? Like, let's talk about it. Okay, yeah, let's talk about it. I don't know why. I think it's because I look up to you so much and I want to impress you and make sure you have such a good time that it's making me really anxious. Yeah.

No. I love you so much. I love you more. I'm so proud of you. You're literally like the brightest star shining everywhere. Yeah, and you have to check me sometimes. Oh, I check you all the time. But that's what I'm here for. At dinner the other night, remember I walked in like this, this, this, this, and you said, stop. Yeah. Do you remember that? Sometimes you need it. Sometimes you need it. I always need it. Sometimes I see you floating up and I'm like grabbing you. Yeah, I'm like, enough. Enough. Yeah. Yeah.

Are you okay? Did you just choke? Okay. Does that tequila make you hot? Yeah, it does. I'm sweating. Okay. So as everyone knows, we welcomed a princess into the world recently. I'm blocking my toe. Oh, what? I saw like my weird, creepy, big toe creeping out. It's not. You don't have to. Okay. Cover my toe. We welcomed a princess into the world recently. We did. Her name is Eloise.

Okay, so I know how amazing it's been, but do you want to talk about how amazing motherhood has been and how amazing Eloise has been? She's grown so much. This is going to be very deep. Okay. Yeah, I know. I always have to warn you when it gets deep. I'm not too good with that. For me, this is going to be deep. Ready? My life makes sense now. I'll cry. Actually, I won't because I don't cry. You don't. But the Lexapro, is it Lexapro? Prozac. It's Prozac-ing. Okay, continue. I've never loved anything more in my life. Oh, okay.

And I'm obsessed with her. She's perfect. And I've lost 50 pounds. So that happened. She is so perfect. I feel like she's even more perfect than anyone could have. I mean, I well, I thought she was going to be a boy. Oh, do you not remember? We all thought she was going to be OK. I'm not crazy here. No, we did.

But did we? I did. I said, I know you're having a boy. I feel it in my bones. Okay, I'm not going to lie. I did too. And do you remember how you told me? I thought she was giving me a present. Go ahead. Tell the story. I thought she gave me and Alice a shoebox. She just got back from Milan and she gave us a shoebox.

She was like, I got you guys a present. I was like five weeks pregnant by then. And I was like, oh my God, like let's fucking go. Like it said like Prada or something on it. I was like, this is so nice and so unexpected. You were so disappointed. No, I wasn't disappointed. Honest to God, we need the video. We need the video. We need the video to play right here. Because I remember. No, you tell the story and then I'll do my ad libs. I opened it up. I knew that it was coming soon.

But you never know how soon. I knew that one day I was going to wake up and you were going to be pregnant. Yep. But I thought I was getting a gift. You did. From a designer store. You really did. I was like, let's fucking go. And Alice is like, Jake, like, why would we both be getting shoes in one box? Yeah. Because it was a shoe box. Yeah. But I don't think like that. Like, I was like, oh, well, twin. Yeah, you looked really upset. No, I wasn't upset. I'm not going to lie. I was just shocked. I was like, oh, my God. So what's the most important thing you've learned from pregnancy?

From pregnancy. Like we'll get, and then we'll get into motherhood. I did weekly update photos. I remember. Every Monday. Remember those photos? Yes. And I could like watch myself expand. It was cute until it wasn't. Well, I remember when you popped. Yeah. That's when it wasn't. No, that was cute. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. This is the thing. I always tell my friends, I'm like, oof, it got, it got crazy.

But I was always empowered the entire way. I was like, this is, I'm, I'm a, I am unbelievable that I can do this. Right. You're carrying a human. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I was also plus 60. But that's normal during pregnancy. Well, Eloise was ready to go by the end of it. She was ready early. She was ready early. She was ready early. Over Coachella weekend. Remember you guys tried to get me to go to Coachella? And you said, yeah, wait, how did we try to get you to do that?

Everyone made me feel really bad about it. Well, you looked at us like, what the fuck is wrong with you guys? I was like, I'm eight and a half months pregnant. And everyone was like, so Lana Del Rey is performing. It's not that bad. And I was like, it's bad. Oh my God. Yeah. Eloise. And then I went into labor and I went to the hospital and you didn't come back. Okay. Okay. Let me just, are we telling this story? You didn't come back. Are we telling this story? Yes. Thank God I have Allie here.

Are you? Okay. We were at Coachella. You came back Monday. And we were getting ready to go out for the first night. Like I was like switching my outfits. I was making TikToks, like, like fit checks, like the whole to do. We get into the van to go to Coachella and Ali goes, oh, I was about to do a British accent. I can't do it. Do it. Sophia's about to go to labor. And I was like, and I was like, what? What?

And, yes, obviously, I said, so do we have to go home? Like, and she said, well, not yet. She's like, not yet. And I said, oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Spoiler alert, it wasn't labor yet. But when you did. It was. It was almost labor. Preterm labor. Yeah, but then you were fine. Yeah.

Is this what you told yourself to make you feel better about not coming home? But then I woke up and I was like, should we go home? Yeah. It progressively got really intense. And then everyone was like, I was like, oh, okay, like, are we going home? But I, obviously, if you were really giving birth, we would have come home. That makes me feel somewhat better, even though I almost gave birth. You almost gave birth. Like, obviously, if it was happening, we would have gotten in a car and gone home. Okay. But then when you actually did give birth, I was not there as well.

I was in France. You know, I forgot about that until you just reminded me and now I have resentment towards you. No, okay. I was chasing a bag. Which I respect. I was texting Ali and Alice for updates every five seconds. Is she there yet? Is she there yet? Is she there yet? Is she there yet? Is she there yet? Is she there yet? And then I remember the first time I saw Eloise, I had just gotten back from like

Having a moment in Europe. I was not down. And I was just filthy. I was not down. I was just filthy. I was not down. You tried to lie to me and tell me that you were a clean boy. I was not. But you posted a TikTok the night before like, from the club to the plane. And I was like, out. And I saw Eloise from down the hall and Sophia peers out of her room and goes, no! No!

I was like, Eloise, I'll see you later. Yeah. That lasted for months. Not months. Well, then you would be like 10 days clean. And then you would go to another club. And you know, it was... Eloise was born... Okay. Eloise was literally born during Brat Summer. Yeah. There was nothing I could do. Eloise, I love you. You know what? I understand. Eloise, if you were watching this in 10 plus years...

It was a really fun time for me. Isn't it crazy to think that I didn't experience brat summer? But you did. You experienced brat summer. I did not leave the house. Not once. I didn't even know that this season happened. The summer season didn't happen in my mind. I just went from season to skip summer to next season. And now you're back. And now it's fall. Yeah. But in a sense, isn't that your version of brat summer? You had your first baby. Yeah.

And you got to spend so much time with your first baby. Yeah. I had my mom, Summer. Yeah, you had your mom, Summer. And you know, there is a song on Brat about wanting children. See, I missed it. I missed it. I don't know enough about it to comment. You didn't have a Brat, Summer. You had an Eloise, Summer. I did. My right foot's falling asleep. Okay, cool. Do you have any nicknames for Eloise? Bug. Ella Bean. Ella Bug. Ellie. Ellie's cute. Yeah. Ellie calls her Chuck Chuck. Chuck Chuck. She is Chuck Chuck. Chuck Chuck.

And that's about it. That's all I got. I don't know. I would find, I would see, you know when you start like watching videos and your algorithm becomes. Was your entire TikTok mom talk? It was just like names. Right. So I would get like lists of just names. Over and over again. Are you going to have kids? Yeah. Older brother, younger sister. At what age?

Probably 60. That seems a little selfish. Yeah, you know, I want to live my life. I get it. You need to explore and live. Do you ever have kids alone? That's how it's looking, so yes. No, no, no. Stop with the negativity. Yes, and I have Eloise now. You do. You always have her. I have Eloise. I have Matt's kid Shia. I have Teddy.

And I have Zach's unborn child. So you're getting your fix for a while. Yeah, I have all these babies all around me. Like Eloise and I, I know Eloise and I are going to be tight. Yep. Like I know I'm kind of tipsy right now, but like I know we're going to be tight. Like we text. Tell them your biggest fear. Oh, that she hates me? Yeah. I had a dream the other night.

And dare I say it's reoccurring that Eloise legitimately hates me. And every time I pick her up, she hysterically cries and I have to hand her back and she hates me. She does. But it couldn't be further from the truth because the first time I picked her up, she was at peace and she said, I'm here with my gay. She, everyone needs a gay. And Eloise has me. Yeah. And she has you. Straight out the back. Where are you going?

So she's officially out of the newborn phase today? No. Oh, I thought because... What's the date? It's offensive. She's four months tomorrow. Okay. You should know this, Gunkle. You guys, I'm an absent Gunkle. Okay? You are. At least you know it. But I FaceTime Eloise. I text her. We get daily updates in the family group chat every morning. Oh. Those are my favorite, favorite... I have favorite photos of Eloise. My first favorite photo of Eloise ever.

Okay, so obviously a newborn baby doesn't, this entire episode should be called Eloise. It should. When you're a newborn baby, your eyes don't open for a little while. And then so her eyes finally opened. And then do you remember the photo you guys have holding her cheeks like this? Yeah. It's my favorite photo of her. That's really sweet. She told me she hates you. Okay, cool. Thanks, Eloise. Okay, so that was your, okay, so. Is that my mom segment? Yeah, that's your mom segment. Cheers. Cheers.

Should we talk about our favorite memory together? Sure. My favorite memory. Oh, God. Oh, I know my favorite memory. Okay. It was your civil wedding. Can I say that? Yeah. That's my favorite memory.

Your wedding, I loved more than anything in the world. Your civil wedding at home was the best night of my entire life. Okay, tell me more. It was just so intimate. It was like 40 people. The food was sick. Do you remember my pants? Yeah, really cute. We got so drunk. Yeah. And it was just like, and we had the wedding to look forward to. And Ali, Alice, and I used to say like, what do we have to live for after this wedding? Yeah.

I do remember you saying that a lot. Oh, I actually have a favorite memory. Okay, go. We were on a walk. We were on our little walk, just us two. And you said, what should I have the bridesmaids walk down the aisle to?

And it just came to me in the middle of the walk. And I said, you should do the instrumental of In My Life by the Beatles. Yeah. Actually, you planned all of the songs for me going down the aisle. And you helped me come to conclusion on the Stephen Sanchez song. No, I didn't. That was all you. Well, I said, this is what I'm leaning towards. And you were like, yes. But what I did come up with was the show me love for the fireworks. You came up with that. You came down with the bridesmaid song.

And you got me the instrumental. Uh-huh. And then I had to send that instrumental to like a choir. Right. And they made it beautiful and it was perfect. And my favorite memory was you asking me to be your flower boy. That is my favorite memory of you. That was awesome. I remember it was like three football fields away. That was a long fucking aisle. The end of the aisle was like, I couldn't, you were like an ant at the end. I was like, oh, there he goes. And of course, like.

It was so serious. And I just see you get to the bottom and everyone like laugh and clap. And I was like, he lightened the mood. Yeah. He did it. I did that thing that he does. He lightened the mood. Yeah. Really? You think I do that? You're so airy. Oh, right. Let me rephrase.

You're just so cozy. My other favorite memory was when we went to Cafe Haban. Well, we went to In-N-Out. Okay. I know this probably isn't your favorite memory. I was raging with hormones. We drove to Malibu and got tacos. No, what happened is we went to In-N-Out. In-N-Out. Yeah. We were in the line, and sometimes the line for In-N-Out... Why can't I say it? Say it. In-N-Out. In-N-Out. In-N-Out.

And that's what we were in the drive-thru. Yeah. And it was so long, like disgustingly long. And we were like, fine, we're going to do it. We sat in the line for 30 minutes until we got to the very front of the line. And I looked at her and I said, I don't want this. As if I was the pregnant one. And I was like, out to here. And I was like, what do you want? And he was like, I want Cafe Habana, which was like 50 minutes away. Literally 50 minutes. It's crazy that you agreed to this, by the way. I drove out of line.

I drove out of the line. And we went to Cafe Havana. And as we were driving out of that line, we regretted it. And there was nothing we could do. Shame. It wasn't great. Well, with that being said, should we get into the tell me what's wrongs? Yeah. Yep. I picked them out. Some are a little unhinged. Tell me how this goes. Okay. So I read these tell me what's wrongs and you give advice to the pussies. And honestly, there is no one better in this world. When I need to craft a text, I'm going to Sophia. Yeah.

A text is my gift. It's your gift. I'll even say it. It's your gift. I'll say it. A well thought out text is very neat. You just know how to handle situations. You read people very well. Thank you. And you know how to grab a situation by its throat and make it your bitch. Wow. It's true. Put that on a t-shirt for me. You do. My best friend has been talking shit on me

quote isn't the confrontation type it's literally who's not the confrontation type her best friend okay it's literally almost been a year and it feels like she has a lot of jealousy towards me because I'm still with my long term boyfriend and hers broke up with her she's obviously in a bad place but it's making my life miserable I don't think friendships are for jealousy they're not and I don't think friendships are for not being open and honest

You are very open and honest. I am brutally open and I am brutally honest, but I got there because I wasn't for a long time. Right. So it was a learning experience for me. Right. I like as a teenager, I wasn't honest. I wasn't all the things. And then I learned as I got older. You don't want jealousy around you. It's an evil eye. It's also like jealousy isn't something that you can fix with a confrontation. No, you know what? I take it back. Okay.

Where I'm at in my life, I have no space for jealousy. But I do think that going straight to the cut is ridiculous. You have to at least give an opportunity to be open.

Okay. Like, this is what I'm feeling from you. What I'm receiving is that you are... Jealous. Jealous. Use the word. Say it. Right. I'm feeling like you're jealous. Don't skirt around the word. I know what you went through, and I imagine that is incredibly hard. Right. Be empathetic. Right. But, like, it's giving jealousy, babe. It's giving jealousy. And there's no room in our relationship for that. Jealousy just to me... And how can I support you? It is a disease. I have it. Ooh. Ooh.

I have it. Right. God knows I have it. Yeah. I think we all do. Yeah. But you know, like it seeps through my veins. You have it a little bit more than I have it a little bit more than a normal person, but at least I'm honest about it. Your friend isn't honest and she's shit talking you and she's jealous. The shit talking is a no. Shit talking just like, uh, it's a no. It's giving like Bethany and Jill from like, you confront it, you confront it head on. Yeah. And if things don't change, you gotta go. Have you ever seen Real Housewives of New York?

The Real Hostels of New York? Yeah. Of course. I just started. I've seen every franchise. Okay, well, it's giving Bethany and Jill to me.

Oh, so you're like in the old. The old, old, old. Okay, got it. Well, Salt Lake started last night. Stop it. Yeah, should we? I think we should watch. Yeah, I think we should like let a few episodes come out. Couldn't agree more. Salt Lake is me and Sophia's favorite show. Yep. We bonded. That's when we really bonded. You know, that's the first time we ever bonded. That is what we bonded over. It was Salt Lake City. It was like, wait, I'm watching, you're watching. Yeah, yeah. Jen just got arrested. Let's talk about it. Yes, Jen. I miss her.

She's in jail. She is. Speaking of jail, I mean, this could have come at the more perfect time. My boyfriend is dead ass in jail for 10 days and I don't know what to do with myself or what to do while he's gone. Babe, why is he in jail? She gave us her number. Did she actually give us her number? I have so many questions. Okay, well, might as well let's ask her. Non-tequila Sophia would have said no.

I know. Tequila Sophia. Tequila Sophia says yes. Says yes. Wait, but does she actually know we're calling? She'll figure it out. So you haven't told her? No. Oh, so this is a dead call. Mm-hmm. I guess we're about to find out. Hi, it's Jake, Shane, and Sophia Ritchie Grange. No way. No, actually, no way. Actually, no way. Actually, no way. No, actually, no way. No, actually, no way. There's no way. There's no way. Babe, I'm needing to know your story. See you in Durham today, Jake. Oh.

Oh my God, I'm about to guilt Sophia to coming to that show now. Thank you so much. Okay. We're a little confused about your boyfriend being in jail. Okay. Oh, wait, what?

Yeah, so marijuana is illegal in North Carolina. Still? He got caught with it. Yeah, still. Oh, what? And he got caught with it and they were trying to give him a felony charge for it. What? Sorry, what were you saying? They were giving him a felony charge for it and it was like literally he would have been a felon. Oh, no. So he took a plea deal to go to jail for 10 days and so now he's just in jail and I literally didn't know about it at all. He texted me

On Tuesday, I was like, hey, I'm in jail. And I was like, oh, okay. At least he has it. Wait, he texted you from jail? Yes, from the processing room. Oh, okay. He's like, sorry, I'm going to be gone for 10 days. So it's today, day nine? No, it was on Tuesday. He's only been there for two days. Okay, so do you miss him? I do already. It's only been two days. Okay, well, at least it's only 10. It's only 10. And you're about to be with him all over again. At least he didn't kill someone.

No, oh my god, never. I wouldn't be with him. And I was like, I can't break up with you because I smoke weed too, so it could have been me. Yeah, that's hypocritical, but it's also giving a street cred. Wait, you're a good person. Thank you. Can I please FaceTime you guys just for one second so I can take a picture? Yes. Oh, call failed. Okay, got it. You didn't even get her name. Oh. Yeah, you usually start there when you talk to people. Oh, she's from Wisconsin. But she's in North Carolina? What just happened?

Oh, here we go. Now you know. You should probably Google where not to take weed. Jake, I've never seen you so nervous. Can you see? I'm turning off the Wi-Fi. Wait, what was your name? We love you too. What was your name? Katie. Katie? That's the name of my dead dog. Do you want to say hi to the pussies? Hi to the pussies. Yay! Okay, Katie, we love you. I hope that you and your boyfriend have the best reunion from jail.

We've literally like two weeks. Bye Katie. Bye Katie. Good luck with the boyfriend. Not the dead dog. Yeah, the dead dog. Do you remember? Oh, she fell off. This seems like a, this is, this is a problem. Yeah, it's, it is a problem. These are really thick. So should we talk about the first time you ever saw me and my dad interact in? Yes. Yes. That is my favorite story about you.

Tell it. Jake and I had newly become best friends in the sense of. Like we had just gotten like pretty close. We were like finally really close. Like oh my God. We were FaceTiming. We were texting. FaceTiming daily. Texting daily. Like oh my God I love this guy. So anyone in my circle I'm like really protective as you know. And like. Fiercely. Fiercely like. Right. I will kill for you.

So I pull up to my in-laws house. Oh my God, cute. It's Jake. So I like wait to pull into the gate until he gets out of the car. And I see this Uber driver screaming in the back seat, like, wait, what? I'm about to have to get, I'm about to get out of my car and defend this kid. Like he's about to get jumped by this Uber driver. Anyway, he slams the door, dramatically walks away. He sees me and he gets really embarrassed. And I go, no, no, no, no.

Tell me right now what he was saying to you. I'm going to go. I'm going. I'm going. And he goes, no, please stop. That was my dad. Because I was in the backseat. So my first question, Jake, why were you in the backseat? By the way, let me remind everyone here. This was two years ago. This was newly new friends. New friends. He's not allowed to sit in the front seat because he's too small. You are 24 years old. What is happening? Let me ask you a question. Please. Why don't you take care of myself?

No, but let's start there. Okay. I don't really take care of myself. When I roomed with Ali at Coachella, she definitely started noticing that I don't take care of myself. Well, we get into arguments with you about showering. Okay. Because... Is this becoming too honest of a podcast? No, it's supposed to be honest. I shower all the time. But I did have to shower before I first held Eloise. Shame. Do you remember that? And I had to change clothes. Because I was in my clothes from the night out. The night out in another state from the club. Yeah.

I did just get back that morning. In the same outfit. It was a miracle I held her that day, honestly. Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah. That wasn't me, by the way. That was Elliot. I know. He made you do that. But it was worth it. Hold on, I'm hitting my pop. This is fucking incredible. This is incredible. My roommate Trina sleepwalks. Last week she walked into my room naked while me and my boyfriend were having sex. Now my boyfriend is acting really weird around me. The worst part is he used to hook up with her freshman year.

I don't know. I'm drunk. I don't know what advice to give to this person. I'm a little drunk too and honestly my advice is dump him. Yeah, because why is he acting weird? That's weird. Why is he acting weird? I have no words. Okay. My roommate is in a bunk bed above me and takes... Oh, I'm gonna... This is a lot. Okay. My roommate is in a bunk bed above me and takes out her tampons in bed and throws them across the room to the trash can. She misses the trash every time. I would just tell her to please stop. Why would you say that?

Like, I would just, I'm sorry. But like, you know, like, as Sophia said, honesty is important. Lawsuit. Lawsuit? Lawsuit. Lawsuit. Okay. Lawsuit.

One word answers. One word answers for this. Recently, me and my boyfriend of nine months broke up. We had nothing but a great relationship and he was so reassuring the whole relationship and even the day before we broke up. But four days into him being in college and joining a frat, he broke up with me so he quote, didn't hurt me. What do you think is the actual reasoning to break up with me is? I think he was doing the right thing. I think he probably would have cheated. Okay. And the right thing to do is probably let her go. Okay. Okay.

I'm like loving these calls. But I'm feeling like maybe that's not what she wants to hear and I'm the wrong person to talk to. No, it's honest. Do these people know we're calling? No. We should probably tell them to take a shot too so we're not on different levels. I know, so they're prepared. Do they ever follow up? Again. One more time. Oh my God, she's from... What part of Alabama? Alabama. Not Tuskegee.

Call us back. Okay, but so back to her before, unless she calls back. So you think he did the right thing by breaking up with her because he did, like that is the real reasoning. I feel like it's really hard to stay together, high school to college. Right. And if you do it, that's a major amazing accomplishment. But if there's going to be temptation and cheating, you would rather leave on a happy, like amicable note than have cheating involved. Yeah.

And I think he was, he would, if he was a good guy all the way through and he just wanted to have more experiences, you can't, it's probably really hard. Right. It's probably really hard to hear that, especially cause there's always a, whenever there's a great reason to turn around and hate your ex so much easier, so much easier, so much easier, so much harder when it's like actually fine. They're a great, fabulous man who's done nothing wrong to you. You're like, you're perfect. Right. And like, why did you break up with me? I'm missing out on this. I will say, I wish he did it sooner. Yeah.

Why? Okay, maybe not. Sounds like they had a great relationship. But like three days into college, into the frat, it's like, okay. Maybe he should have done it before. Before. Leaving in person. But like, you know, no one can predict the future. No. And he knew. He knew he was about to get messy. He knew. So I appreciate him breaking things off before it got messy. Before it got messy. And then you had to like, you know. Yeah. He sounds like maybe something you can revisit down the road.

I recently found out that my boyfriend of five years cheated on me with my best friend and another girl that I don't know. He is my first love and we understand each other so deeply. He's the only man I've ever loved. A part of me feels guilty for staying with him because of the betrayal. But another part of me feels like even if I did break up with him, I would just get back together with him because of the bond and the life we've built together. I feel stuck. Unfortunately, we all go through that. I feel like that's a part of growing. Yeah.

I feel like we all go through that. You stay in that toxic relationship. You go back and forth and back and forth and tug and pull and tug and pull. And then you realize that is not it. And then it's just like you'd rather realize sooner rather than later. Yeah, just one day you'll wake up and you'll be like, I deserve so much better. Bye. And that day should be today. And that day should have been three months ago. Yeah, and he cheated on her with her best friend.

Dutty. Dutty. Absolutely dutty. My friend has, oh, this is something that would happen to me. Okay. My friend has two tickets to Taylor and asked me to go with her. And now one of my other friends is mad at me and her because she wasn't asked, what do I do?

Go. Like, it's like, I'll take the reins on this one. It's Taylor Swift. Take it. You gotta be selfish in the moment. You gotta just go. And I'm so sorry to your other friend that wasn't invited. That is so horrible. And I feel so bad for her. I really and truly do. But it is the heiress tour. She's never doing this again. Go to the fucking show. Have the best time. Do now apologize later. Period. And then listen to all 12 10 minute version because that is your favorite. Favorite. My favorite. That's your favorite. That's your favorite. That's my favorite.

I'm planning a surprise baby shower for my sister. Parents are divorced. It's at my dad's house. Feeling guilty because my mom isn't a part of the baby shower, but that's because she's not allowed at my dad's house. Should I be feeling guilty for this or not? I also won't tell her about the baby shower until she sees it on Instagram. Oh, messy. Messy. Messy, messy, messy for no reason. No reason, right? Messy. We don't know why she's not allowed at the dad's house. Yeah, I don't know enough detail to have like a super strong opinion. But I would tell the mom.

But I would maybe find like a mutual ground. Also, it's so important. It's her first grandbaby, probably, I assume. Yeah, I feel like if I were the grandparent, if I were the mother, I would be devastated. And that makes me really sad. Yeah, tell your mom.

Tell her and figure out a way to make everyone happy. Involved and happy. Because that's the easiest route. That's not nice. It's not nice. That's just plain and simple not nice. It's mean. That's mean. It's mean. And it's mean. It feels like everyone's taking the dad side. That's not nice. It's not nice. I don't know enough. I don't know enough. Yeah. But that's mean. And she'll probably feel lonely. Oh God. That's such a sad. That makes that breaks my heart. That makes me sad.

My boyfriend's mom left her phone open and I looked at her texts and found her talking shit about me and my whole family. We've been together for nine years. Oh, girl. Like at that point, it's just like, I'm sorry, your in-laws suck. Yeah. Like I don't believe in having confrontation with like elder people. Right. So like go to your boyfriend and be like, this is really disturbing. I hope you handle, handle for me. And if you don't handle, I'll tell you again, handle it. Handle. And if you don't handle, we have an issue. Right. Yeah.

Your advice is blunt and to the point. Very black and white. My boyfriend's ex-girlfriend slashed my tires. So I can't. Wait. Start it again. This happened to me, by the way. This happened to me. What? This happened to me. Okay, go on. How long ago? I was like 16. I just got my license. And someone slashed your tires. Someone slashed my tires. Are you serious? Yeah.

My boyfriend's ex-girlfriend slashed my tires. Uh-huh. So I catfished her current boyfriend. Whoa. And he left her mid-stroke. Oh, okay. Okay, so I read that. I read that as he was having like an actual stroke. I'm now understanding that is sexual. Yes. I'm now gathering that. It's giving sexual. So I'll reread this a little more appropriately. Okay. In case Eloise ever wants to listen to this. Right. At a younger age. Yep.

My boyfriend's ex-girlfriend slashed my tires, so I catfished her current boyfriend and he left her to meet up with this fake girl. And then I sent her all the messages on a fake email. Good for you. Girl, I'm impressed that you, that's a lot of effort. It's genius. That's a lot of effort. I think it's genius and good for you and you should be very proud of yourself. Effort, yeah. A plus for effort.

One of my best friends since childhood and I had a falling out. Oh, the worst. The worst. The worst. She did some things I don't know I can ever get past. Yep. However, her mom is now very sick. Oh, this one's sad. However, her mom is now very sick and not doing well. How do I navigate being there for her and her family in a difficult time without forgiving her for the mess of things she did to put a strain on our friendship? Oh, girl, show up for an old friend. Show up for an old friend. Put your differences aside. Show up for an old friend. Like...

handle the differences later. If there's love there, you guys have history, show up. Okay. You know what I always say? The most important thing to me in any relationship is how you show up for someone in a hard time. During a hard time. True. So, you know, we could have our differences, but if you show up for me when shit's tough, you're a friend. Oh, also, thoughts on the new set? Is it new? Bitch.

She said, if I got, Sophia said, I said, I got a whole new set for you. I had a whole new set for you. I said, okay. She said, send me a photo. I sent her a photo. She said, it looks the exact same. I think you reupholstered the couch. I got a new couch. Okay. And for that, I'm proud of you. But the wall. I wouldn't say it's a new set though. The wall, you think? I would say I got, I rearranged the room. You rearranged the room? Yeah. Yeah. Moving forward, say welcome to my new rearranged room. So each time I shit, I bleed. Okay.

I don't know if it's a hemorrhoid, but I really don't want to have a doctor checking out my asshole. Go to the doctor. Specifically, Dr. Graham. Dr. Graham. He's a great stomach doctor based in Beverly Hills. I'm sure he can get to the bottom of that. Bottom. Bottom. Okay. Oh, was that the end? I mean, it could be, but I'm having a good time. Okay. Sophia, what did we learn today? I took away that you can work with your best friend. Oh. And you can...

I learned that working with your best friend is scarier than working with strangers. The only way I will move forward is a headstand. Is a headstand. But your legs have to go straight into the air and you have to be on your head. Okay. Do you want me to play a song? No, it'll get banned on YouTube. Okay. No, no, not up against anything. You're not allowed to have a, you're not allowed to have a backing. Okay. You want me to help you? You want me to help? Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Do it again. I'll help you. Okay. Okay.

Sophia! Sophia! Why are you on your arms? Sophia, my back is arching! Sophia! I don't want to play anymore! Sophia? What other hidden talents? You know what? I think it's really good that I came here today. I can get you out of your comfort zone. We can show the pussies all the things that you're really good at. Can you do the splits? Can you do the splits? No. I feel like you can. No, I'm really inflexible.

That's why I like watching you do it. Sophia, thank you so much for stopping by the therapist's office. What a way to kick off season two. Every part of my, okay. Every part of my body is sweating. Wait, you got to uncurl your toes for this part. Oh, okay. Sophia, thank you. Sorry. I'm sorry. Sophia. I'm sorry. I'm sweating. I don't know if you want to touch it. Oh, I thought, okay. Okay, here I go.

Sophia, thank you so much for being the season opener to Therapist Season 2. Thank you for having me. I love you more than anything in the world. I love you too. Anything in the world. I love you more. I love you. I love you. Say bye to the pussies. Bye, pussies. Bye, pussies.