Session 34: Role Model
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Pussies, pussies, pussies. Today we have on Role Model. When I tell you, I think this might have been the hardest I've heard anyone laugh during an episode. Like,

I really am not lying. Like, I've never met someone so opposite to me. There was a point in the episode in which me and Tucker had to purposefully pause and, like, find things that we maybe had in common, and we still couldn't figure it out. It made for an incredible hour of podcasting. It was seriously some of the most fun I've ever had while recording. His album, Kansas Anymore, came out last Friday, July 19th. And what a perfect segue into SeatGeek.

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You must see them all somehow. You must find a way. And SeatGeek is that way. SeatGeek, I love you. And as always, pussies, submit Tell Me What's Wrongs to PassThatPuss.com. Leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy and enjoy the episode because I am really excited about this one. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapuss. Today we want to... What? Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

Today we have one of my favorite artists right now. His name is... Wait, what? I'm sorry. Why am I nervous? Oh my God. Okay. Okay.

Today we have one of my favorite artists, role model, also known as Tucker Pillsbury. Hi, Tucker. Hi, how are you? Wait, so, okay. I have a few questions. So did you, are you like related to the Pillsbury franchise? I'm not, but I will say, I think this year there was like an article and it was that mother, just Jared, that person put up like a story and it was like,

All the reasons we think Tucker Pillsbury is related to the Pillsbury family or like is in that whatever it's called. Hair? Air. Yep. And it was insane. It was like a full write-up.

Of, like, the most... Of just, like, them thinking things and being like, okay, Pillsbury, the name is from, like, England. It comes from England. The Pillsbury Doughboy, that company, also came from England and all this. And it was just a bunch of... And at the end, they were just like, yeah, we don't know if this is true. So you're not. Maybe. I read the whole thing and it did make me wonder, but I'm not... I don't have the...

I'm not making money off that. Yeah, no, totally. That would be amazing if you were right. I would. Yeah. I wouldn't be in like a two bedroom house. Yeah. I'd be in a place like this. You should see how this guy's living. Shut up. Shut up. Um, what was I going to say?

I listened to your album today. It's fantastic. Thank you so much. Compromise is my favorite. Wow. No one said that. Really? No one has said that. It's my favorite. It was incredible. That's like my type of song though. I love that. Very personal. Very personal. You wrote the whole thing? I wrote the whole thing. It's amazing. Thank you. I will say, I did think you were from Kansas after listening to it. I know. Not only is the album titled Kansas anymore, but there's, you like mention it in a few songs. I do. Yeah. It's confusing. Um,

um it's confusing i want that to be clear though i'm not from kansas i'm from maine i love maine did you grow up eating lobster rolls i don't eat seafood are you allergic i'm not i just don't like it for some reason um which is unfortunate because we i come from the best seafood in the country 100 that's where it comes from yeah but yeah i grew up

Eating everything else. It was amazing. I was outside all the time. It's the best place on earth. And that was supposed to be like my Kansas. No, I understand. Right. We got there. Yeah, I understand. I was just like, I didn't know he was from Kansas. And then I said to them, I was like, I had no idea he was from Kansas. And they were like, well, he's not.

I'm worried. How often do you go back to, no, don't be worried. I'm worried. That's misleading. Wait, why are you worried? Because I don't want people to think I'm from Kansas. I'm sure it's great. But you're telling everyone now that you're not, so it's okay. Right. I just have to like rip. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Have you seen Inside Out 2? I haven't. Go on, though. It's great. It's amazing. I just think you'll resonate with some of the characters. Okay. Which ones? Do you have anxiety? I don't.

Really? I will say, I think if they had like Horny was one of the... I think that would be my... That would be yours. I think it would even look like me a little bit. Yeah. But Anxiety, I don't know. No. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Wow, I've never, I don't think I've ever met someone that said no before. Yeah. You just don't worry? I do worry. I get anxious, but I don't feel like I suffer from anxiety, if that makes sense. Okay, totally. Great distinction. Yes. Great distinction. There is a difference, right? I think so. Okay, cool. I've had my rounds with, like, depression, but I never, like, I don't know. I'm...

Yeah, I don't panic too much. I'm like pretty tame. Well, speaking of depression, what are you a therapist about today? What am I a therapist about? Yeah. Oh, and before we start, do you want to sit with Passandra or Patrick? That's a queripus, but like you don't want one of them? No, I do. I do. I was just curious. Okay, Passandra or Patrick? I like my outfit, like maybe Passandra. Okay. Bye, Passandra.

She's an OG. Yeah. She's a diva. You'll love her. She's cute. So what are you a therapist about? I don't, I feel like I don't get therapist very often. I really don't have much anger in me. So I feel like I'm the wrong guy to ask this. I can start. Yeah, why don't you start and maybe it'll spark something. I'm pissed about, I think there was two things I was angry about today.

My first thing I was angry about was I was freshening up before this, and I couldn't find the cologne I like to use. And I was like, where the fuck is my cologne? And I looked throughout my entire room, and I couldn't find it. What are you wearing? Right now, I'm wearing Mojave Ghost, but I couldn't find my Black Orchid. And so you settled for Mojave Ghost. Yeah. So are you doing okay? I've thought about it. Like, I'm being dead honest at least five times. Are you crying right now? No, like, I just, like...

I have thought about it like at least five times since I left my room. I was like, wait. I don't get angry. I promise. Like I'm not trying to be sweet here. No, I believe you. Okay. Thank you. I don't know. I guess the closest I got was like seeing how far you live away from me. Okay. Today, I was like a little bit therapist about that, but that was tame and it was like, or like Thera slightly frustrated about it. No, totally. You know what I mean?

You're Thera F. Yeah, I'm Thera F. Yeah. Do you smoke weed? I think that's it. I think that's all we need to... I think we're done. I think we're done too. I feel like that's all people need to know. I've never had someone be like, I'm not anxious and I don't really get angry. I can't believe you don't get... When's the last time you got like really angry about something? I don't know. I wish I had something to say. Maybe I should make something up. No, it's okay. You don't need to make something up. I can make something up. No, you don't need to make something up. Okay, so I'm going to use this silence. Silence.

to tell you i have to admit something okay yeah please coachella coachella i went up to you my senior year at coachella and fangirled really hard did you really yeah like really hard yeah that's amazing wait 20 22. are you crying again no dude we can't be crying this whole time i just never go up to people and i was like

I have to go up to role model. That's amazing. And I went up to you. You were so kind. I'm very proud of that. I'm going to wear that like a badge. That's amazing. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Wait, so when did you move out to LA? I moved out to LA probably beginning of 2019. From Maine. End of 2018. Yeah, from Maine. Well, I went to school in Pittsburgh and I dropped out. Did you go to school? Point Park University. Okay.

I dropped out and I drove a U-Haul with all my stuff to Maine. And then I was like, I'm going to go to L.A. I went to L.A. And I couch surfed for a long time, for months. Got my first apartment. Wow. I think that was in the beginning of 2019. How was like 2020? Yeah.

Like, was it... Were you still, like, not knowing... Did you still not have your own place? No, I did. But, yeah, I did. I had my... I was, like, couch surfing through 2018 and then got my place 2019. 2020, I was settled and I was living here. And now...

We're here in Jake Shane's massive mansion. You guys should see this thing. It's really not that big. It's fucking huge. It has these pillars out front, and there's like a golden staircase to get up here. It's insane. Yeah, like lined up with octopus. Wait, you know what we could talk about? What? Guys, Jake canceled on our date last night. We were supposed to go on a date, and I know everyone's like, oh, Jake Shane is like my king. He's the sweetest boy. He's like perfect and all this stuff.

He canceled on our date last night and left me at the... You should have seen me. I was at the restaurant by myself. Okay, he was not at the restaurant. Waiting, and the waiters were like, are you sure someone's coming, blah, blah, blah? And I sat there for hours. So that's your king, guys. And you know what's so fucked up to you? What's fucked up to you? Is his excuse was like...

He had this excuse and he was like, my dog is sick. And it turns out, exactly, exactly. Doesn't even have a dog. So that's Jake Shane, everyone. Okay, we'll add like a fact checker under here as to what actually happened. That's who you're following, guys. But we were supposed to go on a date last night. We were supposed to go on a date. But now we have so much more to talk about. I mean, honestly, you told me you had questions for me last night. That's true.

That's true. Were you lying? No, I did. And now I need to, now I need to. And I said, I love when people ask me questions. I know. But not in like an ego. Like, I'm not like, oh my God, I'm amazing. I'm so beautiful. I'm awesome. I'm just like, I literally could talk about myself. Like it's my full-time job, like for the rest of my life. Okay. I have questions. Okay.

You used to work in the music industry. I did. How did you get into that? Did you go to school for it? I worked in international marketing and then they were like, okay, you need to finish school and then you can come back and like see if there's a job for you. And then I was lucky enough and there was, and I finished school a little bit early and I started working there. And then I became an executive assistant to this guy named Zach and

And he also ran a management company for like influencers and stuff. And he always joked around and was like, if anything ever happens, I'll manage you. If anything ever happens, I'll manage you. And then something happened and now he manages me. And that's Zach saying, I love that for you. Sure. That's awesome. That's crazy. Did you like it? I loved it. I thought that was going to be the rest of my life. And then what happened? You became, you went viral. Yeah. What year did you drop out of college?

It must have been 2018. And what grade were you in? I was... Can I guess? Junior? Yeah, which sounds horrible, but I would have been there. I was so behind that I would have been there for at least...

Five years instead of four. I wanted to drop out my junior year to work at the record label, but they said I had to finish school. Really? Yeah. That's a good opportunity, though. I know. It was 2020. I would go to work and have my phone in my pocket with my Zoom class on, and my Zoom class would just be playing as I'd be doing other work. But now you can show your teachers your...

huge mansion and how you live next to DJ Khaled. Doesn't he live in like Calabasas? No, he lives right next to you. Yeah, in Calabasas. Okay. So that's super cool that you can rub that in their face. What's your star sign? Wait, hold on. Okay. Also, I just remembered, I also ran into you. I didn't run into you, but we were on the same flight to a Jonas Brothers concert one time.

Shut the fuck up. We absolutely were. Yeah, we were. And you sat your ass in first class and we all made our way to the back of the plane. Okay, it was... Okay. Yeah. No, but it was free seating, I'm pretty sure. It absolutely was not free seating. It was free seating. If it was free seating, I would have sat in first class. The JoBros hooked us up. Clearly. And they were like, sit wherever you want. Oh, I did not get... But they were like, go! Yeah.

I was also, I wasn't doing this full time. I was still an assistant at that time. Yeah. I knew you there. Yeah. You did? Yeah. What? No, you didn't. I did. I went, that's Jake Shane. No, you didn't. That's Jake Shane with the huge mansion. Okay. It was crazy. Okay, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. You did not. No, okay. That's very, I can't believe you remember that. Yeah. Yeah. I think about it a lot. Do you really? Yeah.

I think about Coachella a lot, so it checks out. Yeah. Did you like that concert? I did. I liked the concert, but I liked they did the, like, not VR, but it was, like, did you go in the thing where you're, like, it's, like, a ride. And you had to put your phone in a pocket. Yeah, fuck that. Yeah. Fuck. I love them. No, love them. Love them. But let me film that, too. Yeah, that album was great. It was, like, a ride, and you got to, like, listen to it. Who produced your latest album?

A lot of people, but Noah Conrad, like executive producer. Amazing. Did you work with him on RX as well? I didn't. He was new. Oh, cool. Someone new. Let's go back to Star Sign. Oh, you want to go back to what? Star Sign. You asked me my Star Sign. Oh, okay. Star Sign. I'm a Taurus. You're a Taurus? Yes, sir. So grounded. What are you? I'm a Scorpio. Awesome. So grounded. No. Well, okay. I love Tauruses. I don't know if I have many Taurus men in my life. She's a Taurus.

Love that. You guys love material things, but you're so grounded. Okay. You made that up. I don't think so. We love material things. But you're so grounded. Like, you love clothes. You love shopping. Do I identify with this? Yes. Like, you absolutely do. I don't even know what the hesitation was for. No, it's not material. You like being surrounded by comfort. What? Are you sure? Yeah. Okay. Do you know you're rising on your moon?

No, I don't. Oh, we got to figure that out. We do. My rising is Gemini. My moon is Gemini. That's huge. I know. We can move on. You love moving on. What's up with that? I don't know. Is it a Taurus thing? Yeah, it is a Taurus thing. Okay. We're grounded and we like to move on. Grounded. You have very soft demeanor. Thank you. Have you ever been told that before? Yeah. Yeah. I've been told I have big teeth as well. Smile? Smile.

Oh, you have great teeth, though. They're big. Yeah, but they're great. When I was a kid, I had these when I was like...

I don't know. Whenever your baby teeth fall out. Oh, that must have been wild. Like, imagine my head. Yeah. Half the size. But these are the same size. Right. Fucked. But. Did people, like, call you any names? Mm-hmm. They still do. It's cute. What was it? Like, what were some of them? It's just, like, I get beaver a lot on my TikToks. Like, okay, beaver. And that hurts. But I do love my teeth.

I love your teeth too. But I went to the dentist one time when I had them as like a child and they genuinely thought, they like tried to figure out if it was two teeth combined. I guess four because these guys. You thought it was four? They thought the teeth were so big that they thought it was four combined. It's very real. I don't think they're that big. Not anymore. You grew into it. You grew into your body. I grew into it. But just imagine like a head.

No, no, I'm definitely picturing it. Okay. I'm definitely picturing it. Big teeth, small head. Yeah. What inside out character are you? Anxiety. Okay, cool. I was just wondering, because at first I was like, wait, I feel like he has anxiety. And now the more I've spoken to you, I actually see what you mean. I don't think you're very anxious at all. Which is not relatable, I think. Yeah. And I feel like maybe I should have lied so that I could...

No, it's okay. You literally just made a TikTok saying that honesty and community is important. Right, right. But now I'm like almost thinking like maybe to sell this album. You want to lie. I want to start lying more and I want to become relatable. You are relatable. And I want to be from Australia. Guys, my dog, my cat, and my bird all died in one year. And it was...

Tough. And you're from Australia. Yeah. And so if you could just buy that. That was your Australian joke last night. I was like, what the fuck? We were texting and he was like, I might just do the interview with an Australian accent. And I was like, ha ha. I was like, so random. Like, now I see what you're talking about. Oh, got it, got it, got it. Okay. Can we talk about your album for five seconds? Yeah, sure. Or do you still want to do Star Signs?

It's up to you. No, let's go album. Okay. What's your favorite song off of your new album and why? Okay. I love the last song. The very last song, Something Somehow Someday. I love that. It's alliteration. Huh? It's alliteration. Thank you. Is it not alliteration? I just like don't know the words. So I'm just going to say thank you. It's just like weird on my end. Just continue. Like really weird on my end.

Yeah, let's keep the words to like two syllables. Yeah. Let's do two syllable words. I love that song just because of how it came about. How did it come about? It was just like, I don't want to like say the whole thing. Okay, we don't have to. I love that song. Mm-hmm.

I also love Look at That Woman, to be honest. It's one of my favorites. We were just all humming that before you came in. Just humming it? Yeah. No words. Well, we would be like, look at that woman. And then we would hum the rest. I love that. I wish I could have seen that. I know. We were all humming it. Were we not? Every single one of us. Humming it. It's just a humming song. It's a hummer. It's a hummer. I love hummers.

Yeah, that's the thing with this album. I feel like I just really wanted a hummer of an album. And I feel like we got there. So I'm super proud of that. You 100% got there. It's my best work yet. It's amazing. We were gagging over the album all morning. I listened to it on my way to my workout today, in the shower. Thank you. What do you listen to? Like what streaming platform? No. What kind of music do you listen to? Oh, what kind of music do I listen to? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'll tell you. I listen to a lot of, by the way, you use title probably. I feel like you, you think I use title. I use Spotify, right? What kind of music do I listen to? I listen to, I know you're a Swifty, big Swifty. I know that. I listen to a lot of Taylor Swift. Obviously I listen to a lot of Lana Del Rey. I listen to a, right now I'm listening to a lot of Charlie XCX. Everyone is. Yeah, of course. I listen to Chapel Rose, Brita Carpenter, Olivia Rodrigo, Tate McRae. Um,

You're kind of a feminist. You really support women. I really do. Jake, that's awesome. What else do I listen to? I listen to a lot of, yeah, like Amy Winehouse. What do you listen to? Who do you listen to? It's a little bit all over the place, kind of. But I've recently realized everything I listen to right now all pretty much sounds the exact same. I don't know how to explain it.

I love Kacey Musgraves. Bitch, I forgot about Kacey Musgraves. I fucking love Kacey Musgraves. I fucking love Kacey Musgraves. She can write a song. Yeah, she's always kind of been my favorite. Golden Hour is probably my favorite album. Yeah, it's incredible. I love her. I love Lizzy McAlpine. I was going to say your song with her is incredible. Thank you. You really complement each other really well. Thank you. Yeah.

Her voice is incredible. She's incredible. Yeah, she's awesome. She's insane. The way she works in the studio is like, I mean, she's a Berklee kid, so she's like trained, but it's insane. How does she like work? She just is hands on with everything and like knows exactly what she wants. Was like giving Noah like notes on the drums and everything and like,

For a song that wasn't even technically hers, it was very cool to see. My dream is to be in the studio and watch someone write a song. I feel like that could happen so easily for you. Okay. I've seen your friends that you have on here, and I think it could happen very quick.

You know what? I think I needed to hear that. I think it's a quick text for you. I think I need to make that dream a reality. I'm just addicted. Like, my favorite thing when in high school is to watch Taylor Swift behind the scenes. Do you think you would ever make music? Could you see yourself starting an artist project? Like, jokingly, yes.

Explain it like like I write poems. Okay, like funny poems Like do you want to hear one? Yeah, that almost sounds like stand-up comedy. No here. I'll like read you What was my latest poem that I wrote Louise Paris Airport is what it's called do an Australian accent I don't know how to do an Australian accent I'm gonna sound like remember that video of what's-her-name-from-little-mix doing the Jamaican accent. That's what I would sound like

Sorry, that was amazing. The...

First of all, that was beautiful. Thank you. And I appreciate you feeling comfortable enough to open up to me in that way. And second of all, that sounds like a journal entry more so. I mean, isn't the best music to sound like that? But maybe we could figure out a way for you to sing that. Well, do you know Alexander23? I do. He and I want to make a poetry album. Wow. You should come sing on it. Well, I'm not... It's your... Is that your polite way of saying no? No. No.

I'm honored, but I think that you need to come out with your debut album solo. Or, again, I've seen your friends that come on this podcast, and I think you could get fucking Charlie to feature on there. But I also want you to feature on there. I'm blessed, but I'm just saying reach for the stars. You have endless. You're a humble king. Yeah, but I'll come. You don't have to, honestly. If you don't want to, it's fine.

I'll reach for the stars instead. I'm trying. It's like, oh, it's almost a compliment. I'm trying. Are you bad at complimenting people? No, no, no. I'm trying. I'm just, I'm trying to tell you that you are bigger than. Thank you. God bless. Well, when you explain it like that. Yeah. I'm a really bad listener also. That's okay. A really bad. Are you a good listener? I'm a good, I'm a good listener, but sometimes I just think I, I'm thinking about things while you're talking to me. You know what that's called?

You know what that's called? Jake, but I'm also attentive. I am listening. You know what that's called? I have this ability where I split half my brain and half of it is listening to you and taking in the information and the other half is like, wait, am I horny from inside out? Am I that emotion? That's why I wouldn't be able to have a podcast, to be honest. I mean, you've seen it. I talk very slow. I'm trying to slow down.

No, no, no. You need to go full speed. I'm just trying to meet you halfway. We can't lose listeners. And if you come down to my speed, we're going to lose people. I think you need to be your normal self and fucking rip. Okay. Authenticity is important. Yeah. Okay. Should we get into the top? What time is it? You want to be done already? No, no, no. I just want to make sure that I'm not, that I have enough time for the tell me what's wrong because I want to keep doing our...

Little back and forth. Right. Okay, cool. Wait, can you sing for me? Like, you can sing maybe some of that. I just want to... Let's just try, Jake. Let's just try. Let's just try. Okay. Let's do this. Let's... How about this? How about this? Let's do it like an American Idol audition. Everyone's looking... You guys all have to leave the room. I think it's good. Because there is an audience in American Idol. Okay. And I think that maybe we could sort of...

Oh my god, I feel like I'm going to throw up. No, no, no. And I'm Katy Perry. I'm like in the new seasons. She's the mean judge. Is she? Yeah, she's harsh. Okay, that's good. I'll be, I'm Katy Perry. Hi, what's your name? I'm Jake Shane. Hi, Jake. Hi. And where are you from? I am from New York, New York. Very cool. Are you really? Yes. Okay, we didn't, I didn't even ask that. Do you want to like talk about that? Not right now. We're going to do this.

So what are you going to be singing for us today? A poem I wrote about the Paris airport. Have you ever been there? I haven't. So this is an original? Yeah, it's an original. I have actually. I have been. You've been. I would assume. I'm Katy Perry. Katy Perry, yeah. But I have been. Isn't it the worst? Yeah. I had a really tough experience at the Paris airport. So that's what the song is about. And I saw in here too that your whole family died.

Also? Is the song also about that? No, I think my friend submitted my application for me, so that's weird that it says that. That is weird. It's so weird. Okay, well, we'd love to hear you sing, so whenever you're ready. Five seconds. It's okay, take your time. I'm taking my time. How long until the next audition you have? About five minutes. Okay, one sec. Take your time. Sorry, Katie. Also, that will not fly on American Idol, what you just said.

Really? Yeah. Katie? It's like that. That's not okay. Okay. I don't have a beat. Like, I don't, like, what am I supposed to do here? Like, I don't have, like, at least when I sang with Alexander, he played the guitar. Okay, we don't have a guitar. Can you hum? I'm scared I'm going to laugh, though. Not because of your performance, just because of things. Do you want me to play, like, a... A beat? A copyright, like, a... A copyright-free thing? Copyright, yeah. Yeah. Do you want me to play something like that?

Would that help you? What's the legality of that? I think, Nolan? Royalty free. Okay. I'm just like procrastinating this as much as I can. So when did you start singing? When did I start singing? I guess today, honestly. I never thought I would make it this far. Okay. And this is something you want to do as like a career? I mean, that's why I'm in front of you, Katy. What's your favorite part about being Katy Perry?

Orlando. That would be my favorite part too. Okay, whenever you're ready. Okay. Do your best. Bonjour, bonjour. How do you... Can you start from the beginning? Because I feel like I'm off beat. It's really bugging me out. Can you turn it up? I feel like your phone's really... Bonjour, bonjour. I'm really shaky. I'm sorry, Katie. How do you do? Please open the door. I beg of you.

Standing room only. When can we board? This airport is phony. It wins the worst award. Okay. Thank you. You liked it? I feel like I wasn't really trying, honestly. I think you need to work on breath work. 100%. Should we try again? Because I'm feeling more comfortable now. I think it's cool that you chose an original, too.

But I just, it was, I was lost in what you were saying. Bonjour. Okay. Okay. You want to try one more? Let's try one more time because I feel like I can really get into it now. Should we try a different poem? Yeah. Why don't we try a different poem? Okay. Because I don't, I feel like I couldn't relate to the airport. The Paris airport? Totally. Okay. That's crazy. All right. Come on. Do I not write poems anymore? God.

So you only do original, you weren't gonna... So I have an unfinished... Most people do like... No, I have an unfinished poem about someone who stole my Postmates. Okay. Okay. Okay, yeah, whenever you're... I'm ready. To the one who stole my Postmates, was the bite worth the thrill? Do you need another taste? Was the rush worth the kill? That's all I have.

That's all I have. And I honestly feel like somehow I sounded worse. Honestly. That was fucking beautiful. Thank you. And it like kind of hit home for me personally. Yeah. Because I've been through something like that. It's rough. Sorry. But I appreciate you being like vulnerable and open enough to sing about that. I do want to just say like that was beautiful and I'd love to see you in the next round. I think you're stunning. So I have to go to the ticket to Hollywood? Yes. Yes.

What do we do? Do we clap? Yeah! Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye. That was really good. Thank you. I think. Did you enjoy that? I mean, like, tears. You enjoyed that? Everyone enjoyed that? The second one made me cry. What was I going to say? What were we just talking about? Do you want to talk about your relationship with Glenn Powell? Oh, okay. I love Glenn. Yeah.

Any questions? Do you want to talk about him? Yeah, he has a new movie, Twister, is coming out. It's getting rave reviews. I love Daisy Edgar Jones. Oh, I'd die for her. You watch normal people? I did. What are you watching right now? Jake, I'm not trying to be boring. Again, I can lie. You can never be boring. I haven't watched anything in months at this point. What? Not one thing? Since I moved, I have not watched anything.

The last thing I watched was Sopranos. I started Sopranos for the first time in my life. Do you know, I used to be in my mafia era, so when I was in my mafia era, I was watching all these mafia movies, and I'm pretty sure this person that was in Goodfellas is the therapist in Sopranos. Oh, really? Have you seen Goodfellas? Nope. Okay, well, maybe that should be something you watch. Okay. You would love it. It's insane. That felt aggressive to me. Oh, I'm really sorry. Just kidding.

Do I come off aggressive? No, you're not aggressive at all, Jake. You're not. You have like six stuffed octopus sitting around this room right now. You're not aggressive. Yeah, how's Cassandra treating you? She's good. I feel like I'm manhandling her a little bit. That's okay. She's wrapped around my leg. What was I about to get on before he asked me what? Glenn Powell? No, it was before Glenn Powell. Have you seen Glenn Powell without a shirt on? Yeah, we work out together. I know, that's why I'm asking. I've seen. Yeah, he's ripped.

Insane. Yeah. You're getting ripped. See. You're getting ripped. Thank you so much. I also thought that too. Show your arms. Lift your sleeve up. Lift your sleeve up. Yes, Jake. Thanks, you guys. Jake veins. There are veins? Yes. Jake veins. Cool. You should come work out with me at Aloe. It scares me. No, you're coming. You have to come.

I would do anything to see you in a Pilates class. Does Noah Beck go? Yes, I saw him today. You friends with Noah? No, but I think that would maybe be my reason to go. Okay, so why don't you, me, and Noah do Pilates together? Physically bump into him and be like, that's crazy that you're here. Have you ever met him? Yes. Yes. But I just post him a lot on my Instagram story. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. Speaking of, where does Saint Laurent Cowboy come from? The name? Yeah. Or the...

The name, I don't know. Bitch. I just wanted to get closer and build a community on TikTok. And so I thought, what better reason to voluntarily start a second TikTok account to get close to. So it was my idea. I love TikTok and I just wanted to be a part of it. And the label had nothing to do with that.

Are you insinuating that they did? No, they don't. Oh, okay. I love TikTok. I love TikTok too, clearly. Do you love TikTok? Very much so. Oh, okay. So my audition went great. My poems are amazing. And I'm... Are you recapping? No. Let's think of something else.

What's going on with you? I don't know. What's wrong today? I don't know. Do you... Let's just get into it. Tell me what's wrong. Oh, is this a segment? Oh, yeah. Okay, so this is what I think you might... I mean, I don't know. I think you'll be good at this. Okay. It's the tell me what's wrong. Do you know about them? You need me to explain? I'll explain. So, the pussies...

The pussies write in. Okay. And they tell us what's wrong. And then we prescribe them remedies. I love this. I love how you make new words. Thank you so much. I also do this thing called NIME and I'll teach you it later. NIME? It's like you acronym stuff. Oh, I know. I know you do. Oh, okay. So like when I say something and I'm like period, I say I Swiss. I said what I said. So like if you say something, I'm like, oh, you Swissed.

Said what I said. It's conjugated, you know? And then there's I did what I did. There's Tisa. This is so awkward. Tino, this is not okay. Hino, he is not okay. Sino, she is not okay. My God, you are something else. Thank you. I'm blown away.

Oh, you know what I want to say? I know I keep cutting you off. Please, I cut people off notoriously. I have to, or else I'll forget it. Okay, say it. But the clip of you with Ed Sheeran, when he talks about the fucking, where my legs don't work like they used to no more, and you fucking burst out laughing, and then he's like, no, like my dad or someone lost their legs or something. I don't know.

I fucking watched that clip hundreds of times just laughing and pointing.

That was incredible. I wish I could have been in the room right here. It was really humbling what had happened in person. It was the funniest thing I've ever seen. To be fair, he set me up for that one. He did. 100%. He set me up. He said it was a memeable lyric. So obviously I was thinking, you know what? I just won't even talk about what I was thinking about. I would have done the same thing. I think you were in the right. You know the clip at the wedding when the guy's in the wheelchair and they sing the song and it's like, bitch.

But I'm really glad you love that clip. I loved it. The trip to Ed Sheeran was one of the most treacherous journeys of my entire life. Talk about therapist. I wanted to fucking kill myself. Oh, my God. Where'd you go? Where were we? We were in France to Amsterdam. And my ears got clogged on the plane. And I started crying. I never cry, ever. I was, like, tearing up. I haven't, like, bawled crying since 2019.

Me neither, maybe. We might have that in common. I was crying and it was like putting stuff up to my ears. Like they gave me like a tea bag to like steam out my ear. I was hysterically crying. I felt so sick because of my ear. I was having really bad vertigo. And then I got on another plane and landed in Boston. And I was like, let's fucking add Sharon time.

It's always Ed Sheeran time. It's literally always Ed Sheeran time. People keep being like, oh, it's Brat Summer. I'm like, it's Ed Sheeran time. Yeah. Do you, oh, you don't identify with that? I identify with Brat Summer. Right. I'm always in an Ed Sheeran era. I'm in Ed Sheeran time. What's your favorite Ed Sheeran album? When your legs don't work like they used to no more. It's my favorite. So what album is that? Legs Don't Work 2. Yeah. All right, let's get into this. Okay. Let's move on.

My best friend has befriended a mean girl who is known to spread rumors about people. I have most recently become the target of this, and my best friend doesn't care. Like she said, she doesn't know who to believe. Oh, that's horrible. I have two things to say. It sounds like they're in middle school or high school, and that person is not your best friend anymore. I fear. Bitch. Yeah. Fucker. You know what I prescribe? One of these. Yeah, one of those. And Inside Out 2. Because in Inside Out 2, what's the main character's name again?

Lucy? Riley. Riley. Anxiety is basically like, you know, so have you ever seen Inside Out 1? Yes. So like, you know how the emotions like play around in the head?

Yes. So anxiety comes about and she's like, Riley, like we should befriend the cool girl because like what if your other friends leave you? And like Riley ditches her old friends for this new cooler friend, which sounds like maybe this is what's happening. And you know, that's just growing pains. And yeah, that's not your friend. It's not your friend. So I prescribe inside out too, just to make you feel a little more seen and validated. 100%. I prescribe inside out one or two. Well, okay. Sorry. Sorry.

Hi, my friend and I are on a boat house trip, but these cute guys that we're sharing rooms with, but we can't shit because we don't want them to hear slash know what should we do. I identify with this so much.

It's a boathouse, would she say? I don't even know what that means. It's a boat. Basically, they're sharing a room and they don't want this guy to hear them taking a shit. If I heard that right and you're in a boathouse. Shit in the water is what you're about to say? Yes. Be like, boys, we're going to swim inland for a second. Go for a swim with your girl.

Get like 500 feet away from the boat, maybe. That's far. 100 feet from the boat, just in case the boys end up going for a swim. Go far. Do your thing in the water. Everyone's done it. Please tell me you've done it. I have never shit in the water before. You've shit in the water? I peed. I always pee. As a grown man, no. But as a...

I'm assuming these girls are in high school. I was in high school when I did it. You were in high school when you shit in the water? It's not that crazy. As long as you're not at a fucking beach where people are swimming. Can I just ask why you did it? Because it wasn't a beach. I would never go to a beach or Malibu or something and just go shit in the water. I was with my friends...

I was with my friends, and I think someone else had done it. So it was like, okay, boys are different. I'm not trying to relate to it too much. Just go for a swim, bar, do your thing, and go back to the boat. You know what I prescribe? There's this show called Awkward. Have you ever seen Awkward on MTV? Basically, have any of you guys ever seen Awkward on MTV? Do you remember when there was the hot tub scene, and there was the shit in the hot tub, and everyone gets pink eye? That's what I prescribe.

Wow, I killed it with that one. I don't know if you did. I killed it with that one. You're telling them to shit in the hot tub? No, I'm just like to make them, like, it was a bad situation. Like, everyone got pink eye and everyone was talking about who shit in the hot tub. So, like, what if they shit in the water and then one of the boys is like, someone shit in the water. Actually, I won't get into that. Yeah, this one's tough. Yeah. I mean, not for you. Right. Oh, I get sick of songs so easily but don't like music.

How do I keep new exciting songs in rotation? Well, lucky for you, Role Model has a new album coming out on July 19th. Yes, Jake. Plug. Yeah, so it never gets old. You're going to love it.

And I specifically made this album for people who hate music like you. And I think that it'll be a super easy listen for you and it'll never get old front to back all summer long. Kansas Anymore, July 19th. It comes out right when Brat Summer is over.

Who are you to say that Brad Summer is ending? And Ed Sheeran time also ends that week. So it'll be a Kansas Anymore Summer. And I'm so excited about that. Yes. And he is not from Kansas. Thank you. You're from Maine. I'm from Maine. And you don't eat seafood. You're recapping again. Hi, listener. What was that? What did you just do? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. People don't usually call me out on my stuff like that.

Oh, Jake. I introduced my roommate. Oh, God. I introduced my roommate to my friend group, and then she was added to the group chat. I already know that was too soon. And has now become friends with all of them. She's not really a great friend to me, and in fact, has basically ignored me ever since she became friends with my friend group. The worst. This is a tale as old as time. And now it seems like my friends might even like her better than me, and they hang out without me. So unfortunately, this is a canon event.

This is a canon event. Like, there's no going back from this. Okay. Kind of. Unfortunately. Like, she's integrated. Like, she's weaseled. She's there. 100%. So if you want to keep those friends, which they don't sound like great friends, you kind of just got to... Move on. Fucking suck it up and be chill about it. Because I wasn't. I've seen this happen. Mm-hmm. And it's... Yeah, I don't think you can do anything. Mm-hmm. You have to just dip.

Leave. And new friends? You have to cannon. You have to cannonball? Yeah. Out of the friendship. Uh-huh. There's no going back. Oh, that is just such a bad situation. I feel so, you know what? And now you know for next time, you don't need to be so quick to add someone to the group chat. You don't need to be so quick to introduce someone if you have weird vibes about them. Yeah. Do you have a song about like a gut feeling or weird vibes? Do I have a song about adding someone to the group chat too soon? No, like a gut feeling or weird vibes.

Um, maybe if I really thought about it, maybe not on this album. Um, a gut feeling. I guess not listening to a gut feeling. The first song on the album, Writings on the Wall, is about not listening or ignoring a gut feeling. So we prescribe Writings on the Wall by Role Model off his new album Kansas Anymore out July 19th. I love that you're making this. Yeah. You're awesome. You're awesome.

I'm a teacher and I'm supposed to relax in the summer, but I have crippling anxiety, so I don't know how to relax. I feel guilty every time I take time for myself, but I'm terrified that I will burn out when September comes around. Michaela. Hi, Michaela. Hi, Michaela. Hey. Well, I have anxiety, so I'm not the one to ask about this, but you said you don't, so. I have friends like this, though. I think, okay, I've never done it, so it's like...

I don't know if that's hypocritical, but, like, meditation. I think people, like... You've never meditated? No. But I think that people like Michaela... Michaela. ...need to maybe try that, or doing things by themselves. Go for walks by yourselves. Don't put music in. Don't bring your phone. Like, just go for walks and, like, be... And, like, shuffle, like, treat your brain like emails. Like, just read, go through everything and...

Or else it's just going to keep... I don't know. I just think you need to do things alone. Okay, so what I prescribe is a TV show because whenever I'm anxious, I jump into a TV show. So I would prescribe the show Girls on HBO. Have you ever seen Girls? Actually, no, you don't watch TV. I haven't. I've seen... What is... Broad City. I love Broad City. I just started Broad City. Did you? Like, literally this week. I love that show and I see her every morning at... Where? I will...

I don't want to whisper. It's a coffee shop. Okay. It's a coffee shop. It's too far for you, though. You live all the way over here, and Calabasas is next to Drake and DJ Khaled. So I feel like it'd be a very long drive for you. I really love that you love my house so much. Also, just you just getting from probably your bedroom to even just out to the car probably takes hours. I wish you guys could see this. It's like the White House.

But very cool. He's got this mural of DJ Khaled on the front. Yeah, I love DJ Khaled. You do. You told me before we started this, you were like, I'm going to mention like Brat Summer and stuff and like how much I love Brat. But I just want you to know like I'm a massive DJ Khaled fan. Almost ride or die, if you will. What's the biggest lie you've ever told? What is? What's the biggest lie you've ever told?

Because you've told a few fibs on this podcast that we'll have to fact check in post-production. I love that, but please keep them in. Oh, we're keeping them in. And why don't we let the people decide? Yeah, Michaela, I recommend jumping into a TV show. I think that'll really soothe your anxiety and just you'll focus on other things. And I also prescribe maybe like an SSRI. Are you on any meds? Yeah, go figure.

I love my best friend, but she's so annoying when she's drunk and I'm like genuinely don't enjoy drinking around her and our entire friend group isn't that big. So I can't like get away from her at a party. Oof. Okay, so like I love my girls when they're drunk. Like we have the best time together, so I can't relate, but I've definitely been in situations like that. Like do you have a friend that you're like, I can't be around them when they're drunk? Yeah, to be honest, I can't be around people. Oh, I'm doing this whole game wrong. I feel like.

Like, I'm not prescribing anything. No, that's okay. Okay. I just, like, can't stand people when I'm around them. Like, I feel like that is maybe my way of relating to... No, that is... What's her name? Cassandra? Yeah. She didn't give a name. Cool. So, let's move on to the next one. Do we have anything in common? No! No! Okay, can we, like, try for a second? I like you a lot. I like you a lot, too. But we just don't have anything in common. What?

I, okay. Let's try, can we like try to see if we have anything in common? Yep. Should I face you a little bit? Yeah, let's like, let's get intimate. Okay. What's your favorite color? I like dark green. Do you? What's your favorite food? Japanese food. Okay, keep going. What's your favorite food? We'll do this until we hit something. Should we play the game where we have to say the same word at the same time? So it's like one, two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Oh, no, no, no. Yep. Okay, ready? Ready?

Hold on. This is called in between, right? Like, watch, watch, watch. No, explain again. One, two, three, camera. And then you find a word in between those two. And we connect, but we can't verbally say a word. All right, let's play this. Let's play this. One, two, three, picture. Whoa. One, two, three. Hold on, hold on. Book and picture. I'm sorry. If we don't do the next one, like, come on. I know what I'm about to say. Do you know what you're about to say? Okay. Okay.

Fuck, I know it's not going to be what my list wants to change. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't switch it. Don't switch it. One, two, three. Photo album. Photo album and picture book is pretty fucking good. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, ready? One. Hold on. Okay. Okay. One, two, three. Camera roll. Fuck you. What did you say? Yearbook. Okay. Yearbook. And you said? Camera roll. I just don't know where we go from here. Do you have one? Maybe. Well, do you? Yes. Okay. Okay.

Yearbook. Do I have a booger? No. I'm being very open with you right now. I know, I love it. You're good. Okay, I'm just... I'll check you if you do. Thank you. Also, I'll get it out. Really? Yeah. I think I just spit. Okay, yearbook. The fuck? I don't read. Yearbook and camera roll? People are... Okay, people are exiting the podcast right now. People are... So we have to be quick. Okay, okay. People are pressing stop. Okay, okay. Can... Okay, um...

One, two, three, high school. Jake, I feel like we finally connected just now. Like that's very special. That was like one of the bad. Come here, come here. I'm okay. That was electric. You did. That game is my favorite game. Wow, like I really didn't think we were going to do that. And we did that. We did that.

That felt good. So we have a few things in common. Yeah. I don't know if we actually achieved that. Okay. Appreciate you. Two years ago, I hooked up with a family friend and was low-key in love with the guy, but he ended up basically ghosting me and getting a girlfriend a few weeks later. A few weeks ago, I started talking to his older brother. Girl. And I think he is interested in me, but I don't think he has any idea I hooked up with his brother. What should I do? I'll let you take this away. I don't know. I would just be like, I hooked up with your brother, by the way.

And if that's, like, not a problem, like, let's still hook up is, like, what I would prescribe. Yeah. Cool. Or maybe just don't do it again. Yeah, I would prescribe John Tucker Must Die. Do you always do movies? I just, like, because in the movies, she ends up hooking up with John Tucker's brother, right? Thank you. Thank you. I watch a lot of movies and TV shows. I watch a lot of movies. What movies? What movies?

Okay, but I like scary movies. So you've seen Smile? I have seen Smile. I love Smile. Do you really? Yes. Have you seen Megan? I haven't. Ma? I did. I love Ma. Don't make me drink alone. Okay. Let's keep going with different movies. Let's just move on. What's your favorite movie? I love Hereditary. And I love It Follows. You know I've never seen It Follows. I've seen Hereditary. A non-scary movie? Have you seen The Master? No. No.

I love scary movies. Keep going. I like that Australian one that came out. Talk to me. Really good. Have you ever seen Goodnight Mommy? Yes, where she's all bandaged up. Fun fact. I tried to sneak into that movie when I was in ninth grade and they wouldn't let me in. That's awesome. Yeah. It was thrilling. Yeah. That's super cool. Your stories are off the hook.

I ate scallops two days in a row, and the second time I ate them, they made me feel sick. Oh, my God. I totally relate to this. And now I haven't been able to get scallops out of my head for a week. Every time I think about them, I get the urge to throw up. I think this is OCD because it genuinely hasn't left my brain. Well, you hate seafood. I know. That is OCD, though. I think we could just maybe prescribe whatever meds I'm on for it. Do you have OCD? Girl, yes. Real bad. Do you? I don't. Oh.

Do you want to talk about your experience with it? Like, it was pretty debilitating. Was? What? Was? Yeah, well, it still kind of is, but I'm on, like, a pretty heavy dosage of SSRIs for it now. Okay. How did it affect you? Like, I used to not be able to write the word thus.

which was very difficult in college because I would want to like transition sentences in an essay and I'd be like, well, I can't write thus. There's so many therefore. No, I wasn't able. It was also, it was no, it was thus. I couldn't write that. Yeah, but I wanted to use it thus. No, I know I'm saying there's so, I know you did, but I'm just saying that's not the worst thing ever because there are so many transitional words that you could use. Okay, you want to hear a few more of my things that were weird? Please. I,

Used to have to look in the mirror and smile 10 times before going to bed. So I would go like this. And I would have to make sure the last thing I saw in the mirror was me smiling or else bad things would happen. What else would I have? I had something like that. This whole thing is crazy. I can't relate to that fully. Oh, well, I don't mean to interrupt you. Continue. I've interrupted you.

No, please. You were just telling me about your experience and I rudely interrupted you. When I was a kid, I could only sleep on one side. That's OCD. If I didn't, I would have nightmares. Oh. I also used to cluck with my mouth. Do it. I can't. You know what? Give me my phone. I'm going to have my friend cluck for you. No, no, no, no, no, no. What's cluck? I used to count to two and I would cluck.

And my friends would always be like, stop fucking clucking. Does anyone know what that word is? No, because they all. If he does it, he won't. Yeah. You're always calling Renee Rapp. Hi. Hi. It's me and Role Model. I'm trying to explain to him when I was. You remember when I used to cluck? Jake, I hate when you do this. Okay, but can you just. Can you do the cluck for him? You've always asked me to do this on the phone. And you're literally not going to be able to hear it. Do it.

Jake, you always try to make me do this at my office. Please do it. Please do it. Every single time. Please just cluck. I'm hanging up on you. I love you. Cluck off. That's crazy. You said that was your friend? Just one second. Let me call Julia. She'll remember the cluck. Hi, it's me and Role Model. Do you remember when I used to cluck? Yes, your clucking was literally the most annoying thing in the entire...

Okay, well, he's asking me to imitate it, and obviously if I start clucking again, I won't stop, so can you do it? He would literally be pacing around, and he would go... It was like actually hurting. That is horrifying. I was saying soup. It was really bad. Yeah, you were saying soup. What were you saying? Bitch, I was counting to two and clucking my tongue against the top of my roof. Okay, I have to go. Love you. Love you. Yeah, but that's what they would say. I would be like, that's... That's scary. Yeah, then I got on meds for it.

So I stopped clucking. Wow. I used to have to pray every time I cursed. I'd go, I don't think you're possessed by a demon. That's like an exorcist. I know. Wow. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what else random shit I would have to do. I used every time. This one's actually just bizarre. Every time I would say something that wasn't the truth, I would have to text after. Kidding, but like, that's it.

You just end there? Kidding, but like. Okay. Over text? Over text. I think I might have said kidding, but like 500 times. That would be annoying. I would be sitting there waiting for more for an hour. Yeah. That's my OCD. I'm sure there was other things. They're so specific. It's very interesting. Yeah. OCD is kind of fascinating to me. It's very fascinating. You got to go? No. Is that crazy that I just checked my phone?

It keeps vibrating. I'm sorry. Maybe I'm just bad at my job. My boyfriend of two years blatantly lied to me about where he was going the other day. He said he was going to a bonfire with his friends, but a girl I know texted me and told me he was at another girl's house by himself with two girls. He told me he didn't do anything with them. That was me. This is about me. No, it is not. You've never, you've done something like that? No, no, no, no, no. Please continue. Okay. That's it. That's it? That's her boyfriend? Mm-hmm.

He shouldn't be anymore. Right. I think that's the prescription is break up. Break up. Get rid of him. Break up with your boyfriend. Yeah, yeah. Are you an orionator? Sing it more. Break up with your boyfriend. Yeah, yeah. There you go. There you go. Because I'm bored. I can riff sometimes. You can. Can you hit like an orionator? Yeah, when I was in chorus in high school, I used to be the one to be like, I am hitting the All I Want for Christmas is You note. Can you do it right now?

Probably not anymore. Just give me like a run. Hold on. I can't. I used to be like, you! I know, but you're starting up here. Maybe let's just bring it down and make it easier. You. Is you! I can't do it anymore. It was like a thing. I'm turning 21 tomorrow. Any advice from you and your guest about adulting and thriving in your 20s from Keelan? And she gave us a phone number, so. Let's call him up. Can we just start with happy birthday? Sing a happy birthday.

Happy birthday to you. It's Jake, Shane, and Role Model, and I got your... Yes. Oh my gosh, this is crazy. I was literally like hoping that you would answer. Well, we got your Tell Me What's Wrong, and Tucker has some advice for your 20s. Tucker? You just stopped the whole song. Oh my gosh, okay. Oh wait, do you mind if we finish the song? He wants to finish the song.

Oh, okay. Thank you. Okay. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to Keelan. Happy birthday to you. We love you, Keelan. Oh, my goodness. Thank you. Do you have advice for her on 20s? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, you're going to love it. 20s are the best years of your lives. Yes. Life. Keelan, do you have any plans for your birthday? Can I ask her something? Yeah, please. Wait, sorry. Keelan. Tucker wants to ask you a question. I did just have a question. Okay, sorry. Is it a brat summer or is it Ed Sheeran time for you? Is it what? Ask her. Is it a brat summer or Ed Sheeran time for you? I don't know what that means. You don't know the first one? You don't know brat summer?

I prescribe you for your 21st birthday the Brat album by Charli XCX. Okay. Okay. You do. But happy birthday. We love you. I hope you have the best. Thank you so much. Of course. I love you so much. Literally, I love listening to your podcast. It just makes me laugh so much. Oh, well, you'll love this episode. It's pretty funny. So you're in a good one. I need to listen.

I'm excited for the Joe Jonas one. I'm excited for this one. This is going to be great. Oh, me too. It was so nice to talk to you. Happy birthday. Is your birthday today? Happy birthday. It was two days ago. Happy belated birthday. Birthday week, yeah. B-day week. We love you. Yes, yes. Thank you so much. Bye. Love you so much. Loved her. So pure. See, that's how I feel like your podcast, that type of dynamic, I feel like you thrive with. But I feel like I give you nothing to work with.

You give me stuff. Like, you give me something. I'll just ask you a question and you'll be like. I just saw that side of you. What am I supposed to do with that? Do you feel like we should, like, cut the whole, like, first quarter of this podcast? We are absolutely not cutting the first quarter. It was rough. On my end. On my end. Just, I mean, you know, people love it. We can do one more. Oh, my God. I could not relate. You picked a perfect one. Did you know?

You're so going to be like, I don't experience this. I know. I haven't really. I am so jealous of everyone. I need help. Like, I want to be happy for other people. But deep down, I'm just jealous. I hate to say I relate, but I'm so happy for you and your new album. I relate to that, too. You do? Yes. You're jealous? You're a jealous person? I get jealous. You do? Yeah. Okay. So I think there's only one thing left to prescribe.

On three. One, two, three. Jealous by Nick Jonas. Were you like planning on singing it? Were you? No, I couldn't tell what. I still get jealous. You're so sexy, beautiful, and everybody wants a taste. That's why I still get jealous. Okay, so Tucker, what did we learn today?

I don't know, Jake. I don't know what the fuck we learned. Yeah. We have like one thing in common. What was it? High school. High school. No, we both watched... We both like horror movies. Yeah, we liked one movie. We overlapped on one. And I think I learned that you're from Maine and not Kansas and you hate seafood. You know what I think we learned today? I think we learned that you don't have to have things in common with someone to connect and to love. I'm shaking. I think...

Sometimes I feel so connected to you too. The differences in two people and two strangers, Jake can almost bring you closer. Tucker. Because literally couldn't, I know. Hold on. Okay. Well then you fill all of my gaps and my, and the chinks in my armor. You fill those. You are those puzzle pieces. You're my puzzle piece. And I fill in your holes, right? Yeah.

I fill in your holes. Thank you for watching, Therapus. Tucker, you are amazing. Perfect ending. Thank you for coming, Tucker. Oh, what's your idea? Yeah, I saw y'all whisper monster in. What the hell, guys? We should pretend to be one another? That is genius. Switch seats. Okay, okay. Yeah. How are you sitting?

I'm comfortable. I'm not asking you. I'm asking you how are you sitting. Oh, like that. Okay. Ready? Hi, pussies. It's Jake. Today I have one of my favorite artists. He's almost arguably better than CharlieXCX in my opinion. I love him more than Ed. This is my favorite podcast.

that I'll ever do. And I love you guys. You guys are my pussies. I love you. Hi, Tucker. Hey. Why do you do music? Why do you do music? I dropped out of school. Are you listening to me? Yeah. Why do you do music? Is that something that comes easy for you? Yeah, like I don't watch much TV or movies.

That's cool. That's awesome. Is your house probably small and cute? It's probably half the size of mine? Yeah, I actually just moved into a quaint two-bedroom. Oh, nice. That's awesome. We have some questions that we want to ask you. Ask away. You're not going to be able to relate to any of them, but it's okay because I'm just going to answer them. And I'm just going to...

Bye, pussies. It was so nice. I love you. Go stream Kansas Anymore July 19th. It might be out by now. I love you.