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Trump Won. What Now? with Heather Cox Richardson

2024/11/8
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Jon Stewart:特朗普的第二次胜利与2016年大选不同,这次胜利是民主党意料之中的,而2016年则是一个意外。人们对特朗普再次当选的方式感到意外,因为他利用了现有的选举制度,而不是人们预期的非民主手段。这次选举结果表明,人们对“地面战”的依赖是错误的,因为它无法保证选民按照预期投票。他对选举结果感到震惊和困惑,需要时间来理清思路。 Heather Cox Richardson:特朗普的胜利并非完全出乎意料,它反映了美国社会中存在的虚假信息和误导性宣传问题。美国民主制度的“护栏”已经被严重削弱,人们低估了这种削弱带来的风险。右翼利用了人们对一些不真实威胁的恐惧,掩盖了真正存在的威胁。尽管美国经济状况良好,但许多选民却认为经济状况糟糕,这反映了信息误导的严重性。政治技术被用来操纵选民的投票行为,让他们相信一个虚假的现实。拜登政府的经济政策与里根时代的新自由主义政策不同,它旨在惠及普通美国人。选民没有听到关于拜登政府经济政策积极方面的信息,反而被误导认为经济状况恶化是拜登的责任。选民投票支持回归旧的经济体系,这表明投资于普通美国人可能不会带来政治回报。

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Why did the 2024 election result feel different from 2016 for Jon Stewart?

In 2016, Stewart felt the loss as a gut punch because it seemed like an anomaly. In 2024, the victory felt different because it was a Democratic victory, and the preparation for all scenarios didn't account for Trump using the electoral system as designed.

What does Heather Cox Richardson believe is the most important lesson from the 2024 election?

Richardson believes the most important lesson is that the U.S. is in a swirl of disinformation, leading many voters to support policies opposite to what they claim to want. This is a significant problem for the future.

How does Heather Cox Richardson explain the shift in Hispanic and black voters towards Trump?

Richardson explains that the shift can be attributed to the use of stories that pit groups against each other, creating a false reality where people vote against their own interests due to fear and misinformation.

What does Heather Cox Richardson suggest as a potential future for American democracy?

Richardson suggests that the future of democracy might lie in state governance, particularly in states with economies based on small producers, as these states tend to have more democratic systems and prosperous economies.

How does Heather Cox Richardson view the role of the media in covering Trump's administration?

Richardson finds it frustrating that legacy media often lacks context and focuses on play-by-play coverage rather than explaining why actions matter. She hopes for more context-driven reporting that holds power to account.

What advice does Heather Cox Richardson give for finding strength in difficult times?

Richardson advises that the only way out is through and that individuals should keep trying to do the right thing, even when it feels like the walls are closing in. She draws inspiration from historical figures who persisted despite impending disaster.

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Jon Stewart reflects on the aftermath of Trump's victory and the uncertainty of the future, comparing it to the 2016 election and discussing the need for a clear-eyed approach to understanding the reasons behind the outcome.
  • Jon Stewart compares the 2020 election to 2016, noting a different feeling of uncertainty.
  • He discusses the need for a clear-eyed approach to understand the reasons behind the outcome.
  • Stewart emphasizes the importance of believing in the power of change and organization.

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In the aftermath of Trump's victory, Americans are rightfully worried about what the second Trump administration may bring. This week, we're joined by Heather Cox Richardson, author of “Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America.” Together, we explore what our past can teach us about the resiliency of our democratic institutions as we navigate an uncertain future.

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