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席万弗利特认为,美国当前的社会变革与她亲历的中国文化大革命有很多相似之处。她指出,语言的政治正确性、对异见的压制、对历史的歪曲以及对特定群体的妖魔化等现象,都与文革期间的情况如出一辙。她认为,这些现象并非偶然事件,而是蓄谋已久的共产主义革命的一部分,其目标是摧毁美国,让全球主义者掌握权力。她还指出,美国社会中缺乏对共产主义历史的了解,导致许多人未能认清当前局势的严重性。她呼吁美国民众了解历史,积极参与,阻止这场革命。 主持人则主要负责引导访谈,提出问题,并对席万弗利特的观点进行补充和解释。 席万弗利特详细描述了她在中国文革期间的经历,包括大字报的出现、学校停课、红卫兵的暴力行为以及社会秩序的崩溃。她指出,毛泽东发动文革是为了巩固个人权力,利用被灌输思想的年轻人来镇压异见,最终导致了大规模的杀戮和社会动荡。她还讲述了她被下放到农村进行劳动改造的经历,以及文革结束后她如何来到美国。她认为,文革的教训是深刻的,美国人应该从中吸取经验,避免重蹈覆辙。她特别强调了历史的重要性,指出掌握历史才能掌握未来,而当前美国社会对共产主义历史的忽视,正是导致当前危机的重要原因。

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Xi Van Fleet recounts her childhood experiences during the Cultural Revolution in China. Starting at age seven, she witnessed the sudden eruption of big-character posters, denouncements, and the shutdown of schools. She describes the Red Guards' reign of terror, the destruction of cultural artifacts, and the pervasive fear that silenced dissent.
  • Schools were shut down for two years during the Cultural Revolution.
  • Red Guards, consisting of students from elementary school to universities, took control.
  • Public denouncements and violence were common occurrences.
  • Mao Zedong was portrayed as a savior and god-like figure.
  • Destruction of old ideas, culture, customs, and habits was encouraged.

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Shortly after George floy died, memorial day weekend, twenty twenty people began to say that what was happening in the united states, for some resembLance to what happened in china fifty years ago, the cultural revolution with red guards and struggle sessions, public humilation, public attachments, a kind of secular frenzy that look very much like a hate centers, religious right, the cultural revolution.

But what's that overstatement? Well, SHE van fleet has seen both. She's chinese. SHE was seven years old in one thousand nine hundred and sixty six when the cultural revolution started, and seventeen when IT ended with mouth's death in one thousand and seventy six. And along the way he became one of his victim.

SHE moved to this country to ken tuckey in one thousand thousand and eighty six, and she's been here ever since. So SHE has seen both revolutions first ten, and she's write a new book comparing them with a warning it's called mouse america. We're grateful to have her SHE been fleet in the studio with us. No.

he thanked so much for coming on. Thank you. This is some unbelievable that 没有。

I'm so gratefully you are, so you are seven years old when the cultural revolution arted the equivalent of first grade, when what was the one of that you realized something strange and important was happening in china.

Yes, to me, my memory is that happened overnight. And overnight I just noticed there's a lot of what's called big character posters everywhere. It's just big pieces of paper and with A A words written in very large letters so everyone can read IT from distance cannot like .

today's .

social media crop. Yes, it's really the a posters is really of people are denouncing others in my school I remember it's uh the papers were denouncing uh, administrators or teachers and it's overnight and it's just everywhere and in the cafeteria because that's the only place that a high war that's indoor and they just from a ceiling, uh from the uh floor to the ceiling, and its class stopped.

And so one day I went to the classroom and I saw a note on the blackboard, no class for three days. And that three days last for two years, two years, two years. No school.

Because this school was like all the other institutions was shut down by the red guards and the red guards. And, uh, I think nowadays more and more americans are familiar with that. And red guards was the kids from my elementary school to universities.

So they took over the country. So there's no school for two years. So what I, uh, what did we do as a kid? We went to the street. So every day we went to the street, we watch the cultural revolution unfolding. And that is struggle stations parade of those people who were denounced and eventually to become violence.

So I was Young people aiming their rage at the behaved and the direction of the central government of mail against, not foreigners. We threaten china, but IT begins against chinese.

against your own people. yes. And IT is difficult, even for me to understand, and took me a long time to understand what the culture revolution was about.

IT is a revolution that mall launched against C. C. P, against his own party, against his own government.

why? Because he thought he was losing influence. He thought he was a, uh, no longer had ABS absolute power.

So it's really a power struggle. And this time he did not use the armies. He did not have to.

He had tens of millions of Young people that he have indulged ated in the government school for the past seventeen years. They ready to go. Just give them a say.

You are now mobilized to defend, they are to defend more and to defend communism. And that's what, uh the how they got the 啊 kids all involved, and they are familiar to americans. Now they dismantled.

They are criminal justice system. No police, really, just like a 地方 police。 So the red guard could do anything through no consequences. And eventually they start to kill, kill the teacher, kill their principles, and they kill millions of people.

Did I mean the Normal people who are watching this, your family soon? Does anybody say anything about IT?

Nobody can see anything just like here. why? Because more openly supported them, and more had a eight a race to meet the red guards in 天安门 square eight times to declare that he was their red commander in chief, and those are his little red guards.

So there's no decent at all at all. And things just get progressively crazy and crazy and crazy. Do people think that this was gona stop?

No one knows. And I remember that uh, in the first and started IT was a somewhat peaceful because the all the day that was, uh, destroy, they are the past in mouse words is the four old, old ideas, old culture, old custom and old habits get red of more that include destroy all their statues, the statues mostly, but these statues, Christian statues, everything has to come down and everything that is old has to be destroyed.

So when they finish with the public, uh, spaces, they went to people's homes, and I witness they read guards went to people's homes, took everything they thought was old. Old is bad. Old is something that need to be get rid of, including furniture, people's old photos and everything, because the goal is to get rid of the past. We can replace them with the pure moises.

Remember reading about the culture revolution years ago, reading a biography of now, and was so struck by how much more hated the chinese, hated the country, hated the history, hated the culture, and yet he was in charge of the country. I thought that very strange.

So we were taught that the mall was our severe. yeah. And we have some saying that he was our severe.

He made IT possible for us to have a Better life. why? Because he removed three big mountains that had been suppressing chinese people.

They are the foreign in in imperialism. They are old specialism. And though we are, or capitalism, he removed them all.

That's why we could have such happy life. So, no, no, no, we never thought that that he hate, that he did. But we were told we should be so grateful. And he was our not only savor during the cultural revolution really became our god.

was there? Remember the moment that the red guard went from Carrying slogans and the people humiliating them to the point, really went to killing people? Do that seem where you shocked by that?

Where people shocked actually IT started about the same time because they only uh, in the very beginning and only started on campuses and and kinds started as early as August of nineteen sixty six, few months after the cultural revolution. The first killing took place in a very prestigious middle school for girls, the point of girls, Young girls, as as Young as twelve, as old as sixteen, they beat torture and killed their principle.

That was in August nineteen sixty six, and I was an elementary school, uh, student. So in my school I did not see killing, but I did say attacks by the kids. And one of the things I remember so vividly is a teacher.

SHE is, SHE is a pretty teacher. He usually will dress nicely. That's so the they are kids follow her, call her names. Eventually the surrounded her and speed on her, so after, while he was covered with speed from head total, and that was considered mild because he was not hurt on physically. The same time we heard killing happened in middle school, especially universities, but the police were told to stay away from campuses, and if the red guards hit them, they are not allowed to head back, just like here.

So what happened to you as you got older during this period?

So the violence of the regard movement um last day until nineteen sixty nine, by then all the power was taken down by the red guard for more so basically the all the institutions all paralyse. There's no one in charge so they thought, okay, now it's time for us get some power and then they start to fight each other for power and that's when it's getting really, really violent. IT become almost like a civil war.

They raided the military, uh, instance, they read the military places。 And god, real weapon before IT was just sticks and stones and rocks, and that was a real weapon. And they started to kill each other.

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because they thought, now it's time for now for us to get power. And then exactly, the faction IT got so bad that tanks were deployed in the cities where there's a lot of defense factory. And that's not that far from where I live.

And I was not safe by then for us to go to the street. One day, a three bullet landed under the window when we have dinner. So IT was an IT was so bad that one day I described my book that we were outside and we heard this really awful chinese funeral music. And then words came back that they have a corporate so it's one faction of the red guards try to gain public uh, sympathy. So they had the people that who killed by the other faction on the parade that is the time that mol got rid of them.

So they basically, they were his creation. He gave them all this power to consolidate his own. But once they became a threat to him, he did what he .

suppressed, yeah, the military to suppress them. So they, uh, I we don't know the number, the real number, but he killed tens of thousands of red guard. And then eventually he got them together, the leaders and said, you disappointed me.

And then just like that, the whole movement was dismantled. And they all sent to the countryside, many of them sent to the virgin land, like a good lock to be reeducated through physical labor. And that's how you become real communist.

You can just do the uh, what you did in the city. You have to be uh really go through hot labor to become real communist. And off they go. And for from nineteen six, from nineteen sixty nine, from that time on all city kids from high school to the countryside and when I graduated from high school um in nineteen seventy five, I was two into the countryside doing the physical are labor that was very primitive and I stays there for three years after more died and after shoppin reopened universities. That's how I could go to college to study.

What did you do in the countryside?

H, yeah, that is not a farm. So a lot of people think about the countryside to think about, no.

yeah, countryside here is a good thing.

yep. No, no, no, it's A A commune. A rural area was arranged or organized as commune commute.

collective. funny. So in the common, a lot of production teams.

And so it's all wrong by the C. C. P. So what idea is every day we would gather in the a meeting place of the production team, and the leader will tell us what to do.

So we do that your work and we get a point. And then in the harvest time, you use the point to get some uh, produce. Green or potato or whatever, to get food, to get food. yeah.

So I not only experience the witness, the whole culture revolution, I also get three years working the fields and get to know how present did those pants put more in power? He mobilized the whole place and promise them free land. They put them in power after the culture, after the revolution.

Succeeded in nineteen forty nine, the pleasant, the same people that put them in the power funding in the very button of the society. And they were the ones that could not leave their land because of the year is called a 户口。 It's like a household registration system, so they could not become service.

They just really live a life of the post. And so and I kind of in a way, i'm glad I get a chance to be with them and to know that this is commission, this is socialism, supposedly to liberate them from the oppression of the Price. And then they end up. We more were often than before, and during the famine in nineteen seventy nineteen and fifty nine to one, nineteen sixty two, up to fifty of them off to death. The presence.

fifty million.

fifty million.

unbelievable.

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So I was so lucky that I was able to go to college the um age of nineteen, which is still not because I was sent to the countryside when I was only sixteen. So after I got my degree, I was given the job. You don't just get a job, you are giving a job.

So I was giving a job to teach in the teacher's college. And in the early eighties, more and more americans come to china to volunteer to teach during the summer. So there I met a wonderful lady.

Her name is ted nave. We become friends and SHE wanted to help me to come to america. And so true to her words, SHE did help me.

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So you lived here, american american. You lived in this country. Sounds happily from, let's just say, eighty six to toy toy. George floy gets killed. And all of a sudden, in a day, the country changes. What did you notice about those early days, late may or early june twenty, twenty? And what did I make you think as you watch that?

It's a long time coming because I start to notice things earlier, even as early as nineteen 1。 And I remember in the class that I took, and it's about special education when they are the act of american disability yeah something like .

that yeah and the .

teacher was telling us you know now you know that they are protected and know as a teachers um that we should I just took the class, but there are others that were special aches that we should be very, very respectful and we should never say blind, we should say people with vision, uh, imperial vision, something like that I don't even remember.

And I was so impressed as the americans of the nicest people they try you know to be nice and not, you know, not hurt people's feelings. Now we know right during the process and we were told, uh, you you can say in vision, uh, impaired now something something different. And now you know what? What's the correct way to call those people blind? Yeah, according to stanford.

Now that is the correct way. So that just remind me of the cultural revolution that there is only one correct way of thinking of talking. And if you don't do IT, you're getting into trouble. So I just noticed.

So when the language started changing and people announced that, you know, from here on out, we're calling X, Y, we're calling, I don't know, peking, beijing or the orient asia or whatever, the blind, visually impaired that reminded you of the cultural revolution a little bit.

I'm just saying, if you ask me what I noticed, that was something I noticed because I noticed later. And you can say that you can there are so many things you can say what you have to say differently and who tell you the authority tell you that's the correction of things, saying things, and that's correctly of business of thinking OK. But still, I did not lose my sleep over those things.

And until later, and in my G, I did say train load probably is the thing, the person that came to my mind, that can really pan down the moment. I really say this kind of really like cultural revolution. I don't even know the story.

whatever. He was called a racist because he said something as if that really sounds like cultural revolution. You say something and your life is over.

Try love was a republican center from mississippi who went to the funeral of the longer serving republic public center from south china and praise to metage funeral. And for that, he was first .

to resign. right? yeah. And that is that really made impressionable? Y I think that just like cultural revolution and but things get from, uh, bad to worse.

And there was a way before twenty, twenty that I note the thing is really, really going wrong. Because in the workplace I was a invited to be a member of d and I back names D N I, diversity and inclusion council. And I notice every member is has identity there.

And I just realize this is not really about uh um making people work together, help people work together is more like on political identity. yes. And but thin, you know, got so much bad in the twenty twenty when I saw the N T find be a man burning our cities。

I say, this is no longer some kind of troubling sign here there. This is a full blowing maxes revolution. This is exactly what I noticed. Uh, h, what I witness doing, cultural revolution. So I said, I got to do something.

I have to get involved the one way or other and that the end of a uh twenty and twenty I got involved with the lodden republican uh lodden county republican committee and h after that and we get emails and you know ask us to go to school board and I never never involved politically to go and give a public speech and was just intimidating to me and but I got so much support from the member, say, I said, don't even have children in school at that time this IT doesn't matter. We all tax pay payers and then you should have a go there. And the voice, you are your opinion.

So I said, okay, OK have been very what's going on in our school. You are now teaching, training our children to be social justice warrior and to loads our country. And our history are going up in mice.

china. All this is very familiar. They are communist regime, use the same critical theories to provide people. The only difference is they use class.

Is that the race? And back then, you know, you have to wear mosques. I think, god, I have to wear mosque. And that cover you to hide myself. So went there and did that and have no clue, I have no clue what happened after that.

Well, I I have say one of the the features, just as a foreigner reading about IT of the cultural revolution, that so he struck me, is the master stereo. Rational people becoming irrational people going crazy, getting caught up in this frenzy and really believing things that are that are absurd. I want show you a piece of tape um from the united states this is after George fords a drug over those death um and this is a table of affluent weight ladies who have paid money to be told their racist and I just, anna, get your view of this .

what actually more you didn't say yours what your racist thing thing that you ve done thought about or done you have something inside of you that's not quite like that's racist. So you must have you must have examples in your own life. But I also work in environmental engineering. I have absolutely people of color, or minimal people of color, possibly exclusion me say that this thing doesn't .

like her attitudes.

I can say a racist thing you've done because IT just happened when you just talk to me. The way you just did this is how White women talk to us all the time. These are micro aggressions.

And I say the exact same thing to my White girlfriend, who says the same exact thing. I don't care if you talk to everybody like that, right? The way you just spoke to me was straight ed up White supremacy. You actually just answered with racism.

White supremacy is said to be hidden in innocent was phrases and banner behavior. The smallest things could be considered racist. It's enough that a person from a minority group .

feels insulted, sounding terribly White. I don't know that I was all that racist to start with, but I also would be more aware or hyper aware of my thoughts or reactions to circumstances that would be racist. So here we .

have privileged weight ladies being barked up by even more privileged non weight ladies about their sins. And the weight ladies are loving IT.

But what is that? That's a struggle session, and that's something that everyone have to go through in the during culture revolution. In the very beginning, that was those in power that was taken down by the red guards they were struggle against in the so called strugling session.

That was brutal. Some of them were killed right there in the public trial. But everyone have to go through the gentler form of struggle tion. And that's called criticism and self criticism. So as kids, we will have that kind of a structure station every week, and we will sit together and after, you know, referring some of the mouse quotes, and we will criticize self, usually start with yourself.

And you would say, and I did this and that not quite up to the requirement by mouse instruction, and and and I still have to support influence in me and and then everyone will join and say, yes, you are right. You did this in this that day. You say, this is this that day, and then we go around so we struggle against others and we against ourselves. So to get rid of every little in right thoughts from our mind.

that's what I do. So china is I an overwhelmingly hand chinese. So you you're not going to have racial lines in a country that's got one race. But if you take the race stuff out, White primary sales, IT, idt, identity .

politics. That's exactly what IT is in china. IT started with class, yes.

And they divide the whole population into two classes, red class and black class. And you can figure out pretty much what IT means. Red are the correct class and black is the incorrect class.

Those are they are property owners, landlords or people with bush war a word view. They're all black class, so they're the enemy of the state we all look like, right? But that's how china was divided uh, by mall.

And i'm talking about identity is not something you you know just okay. And black ass, no, you are black class and that is your identity and that is required in every government document just like race. You have to figure out you.

You have to fill out what you is. What you risk is there. You have to fill out what your class is. And then you pass IT down to your children and your children's children. And you will forever be the enemy of the state.

And here we have we still have class, you know, about burning sander, still talk about one percent versus nineteen nine percent. But race is the most polite way to divide america. And that's just exactly the same thing that happened in china.

Maybe the similarity is that the people who are screaming about privilege themselves have the most privilege, right? I mean, so the people leading the struggle sections were obviously more privilege than the people being interrogated.

correct? It's in the revolution. Most of the revolution.

Who started? It's usually the elite. T yes, mom was from a rich family. Yes, yeah. All his commerce are from rich family.

Only people from rich family had the time to entertain how to start a revolution, exact the same, and then they turn the people against the other. You lite. And that is always the case because they want people fight against each other and then how to control them.

So as as you're starting to notice these things, do you tell your husband who's american? Your children are born here. Your friends who american do you say this looks like what I grew up with? Did you tell anybody .

that that is a mistake you've made that for a long, long time? I never really talk much about my past. Yes, because I want to forget IT myself.

It's unpleasant. It's awful. And no, I haven't share a lot of the stories with my family and with my colleagues.

A lot of them are, oh, he had such an interesting story because it's awful things that you want to forget. That is the mistake that I made, and that is the mistake the conservative made. They never really a fight for 呃 the schools to teach the horror r of communism。

People don't know, people have no idea. And when I went to the schoolboy and giving that speech, I think a lot of them have proved the first time heard such a thing as cultural revolution. Yes, that's why that I say when we people like me who live through communism, we saw through IT right away, the americans has no clue.

That's why they don't realize what was happening here in twenty twenty. And what's happening now is communist st. Take over.

And I mean, there's no doubt about IT. IT is communist. Take over.

Would you say that to americans? How they respond?

I think more and more study to see IT. But many told me they never, they don't know anything about cultural revolution. They know very little about communism. They thought communism was defeated, burning war was torn down. It's over and I think that's the mistake the conservative made.

Tell about your speech at at the latest event.

it's only one minute. And um so the only thing I can say that what's happening in our school and how you push the C. R.

T just to me, is just the repeat of the cultural revolution. In the cultural revolution with students and teachers can turn against each other. We change school names to be politically correct, and we were talked to denounce our heritage.

The regards destroy anything that is not old, a statute books and anything else. We are also encouraged to report each other, just like the a student equity ambassador program and a biased reporting system. This is indeed american version of the chinese communist st, the chinese culture real revolution. The critical race theory has its roots in cultural marxism. IT should have no place in our school.

What kind of response did you get?

Well, people are proud. And my minute was over. And I was just, you know, I really, I just left the meeting.

And because I took time off, my work have to go back and make up the time. So I thought, everyone knew w IT cultural revolution, who doesn't? Well, then I got to cause in later. And people want to interview. And I realize, my god, people don't know, americans do not know.

Why don't you think?

Why don't they know? I think it's on purpose. That is absolutely to me, and convinced that this on purpose, they do not want to teach communism, and they do not teach the horror or the history of communism because those are in control.

They are mixes. They want to use the same tactics to gain power. That's why it's not taught. It's not taught at all. And it's later from my twitter uh follower and I I I see comments like in school we learn slavery and everyone knows slavery, everyone knows nothing. Germany, we never taught commission and that's why people don't know what's going on today yeah because .

they that history has been withheld from them yes. Um do you notice similarities in between a mouse attempt to destroy chinese culture, history, language and our government's attempt to to hide our history and change our history lie about our history .

to the the exact the same thing history is so important and as we know that whoever control are the present control the past, and whoever control the path control the future. That's what um C C P did when they took over china in eighty forty nine. They totally took over the educational system.

They remade the curriculum, but what they really put their energy and focus on is to rewrite history. Yes, so the history that I learned, and even today, have to get rid of others missing information that i've received as a as a schoolgirl and later in college, or 啊, a fictional, absolutely fictional. And that, but that's how they control you.

And you believe, just as I said earlier, you believe that w, uh, the C, C, P is our savor. Mow is our savor. To, 呃, to to save us, to liberate us.

Now we heard that to liberate us from the oppression of those a impression ism, imperialism 啊, a federally and capitalism. And you believe IT. And people ask me on, did you question? I said, how could I question? I was told one thing, I have no access to other information.

I could not think, thinking, I think in in uh uh requires you know something you have information, you have different sources of information and hopefully you can you know go through them and come up with your own uh conclusion that's critical thinking。 When you have only one information, you can think I can only think one way, that the way, that the correct way. And I have been like that for a long time. Some people will say that they see through things didn't culture of not me, and totally into IT, and totally accept everything I was told, no matter how observed IT IT was, I accepted because party can't be wrong, move could be wrong.

You've seen the the whole cycle and you're born ten years after the coming revolution and you you know you watch the whole cycle of IT. Um so given that, where do you think things are going in this country right now? Where are we in that .

progression? People ask me that a lot you know IT is really, really decades in the making in amErica after the um the sixties um when the maxes took over all universities, they have been creating generations, not just one generation, generations of marx's or people who absolutely um follow that those ideologies now they are in our institutions, in every institutions including educational system.

Corporations are a government and even our military IT is everywhere so I will say that the information of communalism is complete in this country. And so IT is, IT is really, really well in dire situation. So what do we do? Well, we have to start from my educating people and to weak people up by telling them history, by telling them that what's going on here is nothing new.

IT happened before, not that a long ago that happened to me fifty years ago. The witness, the survivors are still here trying to tell american people, this is communist revolution and goal is to destroy this country. And the go is for on the global list, I will say, global list to take power .

can not be stopped IT has .

to be stopped. So we have to wake people up, get involved. And sometimes I feel so um just feel like there's no hope. But many times I do feel like there's a great hope.

I have been invited to talk to so many people around the country, and I met people who parents who never involved politically, just like me, but they are involved now. They've fighting. They're fighting in the trenches.

And so I say there's a hope, there is a great to, and we can just fight because we can not figure we might win. To me, we have to fight because we believe in IT and what I believe in is america. And so there's no choice but to fight.

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Yes, there's a revolution going on. We're living through IT right now. But because it's america, that revolution will never entail the killing of a lot of people. All revolutions end up killing a lot of people. But I won't somehow.

What do you think just looking out on the streets, on the campus today? Look, those people who have no empathy, because their empathy is a guided by the 啊, the ideology, that ideology is maxes ideology. About the Price and pressed, the word view is looking everything in terms of who is the pressure and who is the pressed.

And that is absolutely communist word view. And for those who are opposed, anything they do to the oppression or the pressure is justified that include murder um kidnap and rapping, this all justify just like the cultural revolution and that's what's happening in today's america. Those are the absolute result of decades of industry.

So people with no empathy will kill.

will kill. And today they're just out there accepting, justifying and celebrating violence is only a short step away from committing violence. Those kids in china that kill the uh their principles, their teachers, they're not monsters. They're not they were actually most of them were from a very procedures are universities and and high schools you know I mean the .

parallel is are unbelievable.

believable.

And they so the chinese harvard was more radical than the chinese H. V. A. C.

repair. The cultural revolution started, 清华 and beijing university, the top of the top. And those, the red guards that committed murders were the best of the best, supposedly, and then they kill. And there's one one short step that will see this happen if we don't stop IT.

Um when you say that, do people take you seriously? Do you think in this country they believe you?

I think the people who listen to me, yes, they believe me and and that's why I think it's I play a very, very important role because i'm telling people not something I just learn from books or just I did some research. IT is from my left experience using the left terminal gy. I live through IT.

I saw IT, and absolutely, this can happen here. And this, well, if we don't stop IT. So but our system .

was supposed to we were taught growing up that our system would never allow something like this to happen because it's a democracy and the people are in charge and you can vote them out if you don't like I.

what do you think of that? I love h, uh, john adam said, our system, our constitution, is made for moral and the religious people, and that won't work for any other. And the constitution still there, the rule of law still there, but the people have changed, and that is what's happening today. We are dealing with marxist and common ist who control our institution, and so they can use this democratic process and Carry out their agenda and destroy everything on the path.

So the process itself is a well and IT depends on the intention of the .

people yeah and people have changed that people have really changed.

What do you think what think they changed?

But indoctrination decades. And just just think about from the sixties, it's several decades. That's the power of indulgent ation. That's why I always tell people the only way for us to win the war is is to a get our school back, get our university back and of course media because those are the institution that um shaping people's mind and they're all in the hands of marxists.

What motivates marxists power?

power. When you think that way, everything is easier to see. I did not know why mow would just launched ed, this revolution that destroy everything and destroy people's lives.

My life will never power. power. He want to launch the cultural revolution because he want to have absolute power, and he did. In the process, he become not just the supreme leader. He become our .

god in china today. Or average people aware that the culture revolution happened or they upset about IT, do they?

About IT? That is a great question. I think it's so important for people to understand, people empower. They want to control history and they want to in, uh, erased, inconvenient history. Yes, and that's exact happen in china.

Young people were not told cultural revolution and when they are talk about IT, they were told that was the anti corruption campaign. That's IT. And the Young people, many of them never heard about the time master, because this was not in his, my history book, not taught, forgotten. All the history of the atrocities by the C, C, P. Were not taught to the new generation.

Is that I think it's not, uh, very reassuring that the political party that killed tens of billions of people is so empower absolutely .

because they control the history yeah you don't know and Young people don't know and old people they're not to talk about IT and that's happening here. We don't know history. People who know lot, I don't want talk about IT.

My last questioned you, you survived all of this, this, this first revolution. What advice would you give to americans for how to respond to our revolution right now happening in this country?

I would say you understand what's going on only when you understand what's going, you can fight back, otherwise you can find something you don't understand. Yes, and it's not some kind of crazy kind of democrats. They just do some crazy things. No, this is absolutely a full blowing coming this revolution. And the goal is very simple, as just one destroyed this country, so some people can have total control of power.

So what is nothing to do with improving anybodies life? no.

And if you want to, if you want to save this country and save IT for your children and your children's children, you have to get involved. You have to fight back as your life depend on IT.

With that, she's then fleet. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Congratulations on this book. Thank you. Orrible ying is a day.

IT is. Thank you.