Willie Robertson: The Unlikely Origin of Duck Dynasty, Willie’s New Show, & Why Trump Won
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Was on the five and now the and I was up there, they put me out so popular with our yours .

IT was popular .

yeah and the girls, the girls on that show, they were laughing. They said, all good donors know, says he is running for present that and they are laugh and then they can, you know, make IT like it's a joke and game and what's say you really and I said, tell you what, I think he's resonate with a lot of people and you could just see him, my satellite oh, like I thought I was going to laughter and be I said, don't underestimate the power salaries because I was like, i'm just native but then whenever body knows you are, is that it's a big advantage because they might come here. He is a vice president of years. No one knew that to say your name, including her, and he was the vice president.

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We are honest brokers here to tell you what we think you need to know and do IT honest. Check out all of our content and tucker crosson doc com here. The episode when they got elected or whatever IT was in twenty twenty eight, I totally by accident, I prince, I called her .

camera no.

which is why I thought her name was. And the White house prosecutor attacked me as racist, which, okay, fine, but IT really was totally accidental, right? And so this kid on her staff found the tape of her calling yourself kala and then camera. And I just said, like, who can't pronounce her own first name? Yeah, if you were like, i'm really robbert.

i'm really a Robertson like weird, right? Hello, i'm Willy around.

I mean, I think it's fair to like settle on the principle of your own first. So one of the things of I was, i've never hundred before become famous for bird hunting. You an excEllent shot. I just want to confirm that for people, watch is not fake.

I've got to make my band brothers watched this. It's too. No, no.

no, it's true. You are, but you're not. You become famous from television. You've I just want to get right to IT. You've written this book gospeler, which is not about hunting.

It's a kinder unting for people, hunting, fishing for people perhaps turning.

turning darkness into late one conversation at a time.

Yeah that's kind of this book this year and this was kind of one I wanted to write you was like before I never want to write this book and it's really about my faith um the fate that was passed down the first chapters uh my mom and dad story about how they uh got their faith. We put out a movie last year about the blond which was their journey faith shot in the late sixties, seventies and that was a bad he was a bad guy.

What way just when he call himself for he then he was just a bad, do know, just in the everything he shouldn't have been into. He's married. He's got his Young family.

He's drunk all the time, loses job, is up running a bar and i'll hope literally was over. He had kicked us out. The home is bad. Dad is a bad husband um let me kick .

you out of the home .

a kick mom and outside of the houses or have the driver really is yeah and um yeah so and the one person who didn't give up on him was my anand jane, his Younger sister. And SHE he would go to this bar he was running that has like a measure to graves could IT went professional um quarter by he played a head of bradshaw and uh in college IT was anti gifted athlete, had everything you know ahead of him and just pretty much throws at all the way and so my my my air would go up there and pass out little bubble truck.

He was very cares metic Christian and and he hated IT you know he was like dad here and h and SHE bragged this preacher to go please the gospel to your brother and and I write the book I can just imagine this conversation like because because the preachers and lose ana, the bars and arkansas and i'm sure was like, can you share the cost with my brother his way where and and the private yeah have to come to church need after is not going to church and you have to go see here where is he runs a bar in which one in and this guy is in his car and draws to a bar. Walks in where's the bar with this bubble was in junction city, arkansas. And IT was rough and and he was adversarial.

The god is that fail does not want to hear. He does. He's not even invited in there.

And and I knew the press appetite ly passed away and he and he he says, usaid, your dad, your dad sit and said he's got a pistol in his bell and a giant he's about half later the dead lex em says what you sell in preacher man and the gas is down and that thing happens if IT doesn't there. There's no conversion. This no, just as I am a bar batista there is that i'll keep that man.

And so he lives and then and feels life we've been goes more in the time he ends up the state police showed up to arrest in, he goes and lives in the woods for six months after, like he was that what were they arresting him for? He had put two people in. I see you Better map over bar dispute. He just takes all lives in the woods and out theirs. When he he got really sick and nobody you know about trying to figure where he was.

but he was away kids at this point well.

then they let mom and they moved to lose an and we're pretty much much like, hope he doesn't that, you know but it's over know these are kicked us up and and then he comes dragon back up into that town and he pulls up where my mom was work and he has a new job and trying to move on with her life and and she's like, call the police like, oh, no. He's you he's on he has been living in the woods he pose amy's crime.

He said, where's that pretty? And they taught to him. And that's when you became a abroad out there. So that's the first shaped .

in the books. So how long did you take your mom to .

take him back into SHE took him right back was amazing you know said if he worked for dad changing his life but also have .

one for mom forgiving him and to change .

your life when you're yeah and who know you know, i'm sure that wasn't the counselling that we had, you know but he needed help. I think he got three Young boys and time three, and I was the Youngest. So in the movie i'm portrayed, I was very particular who played me in the movie at two years old.

May you guys get that part right?

And some to my grandson played me. My grandson played me about his great grandfather. That was awesome.

This fans fun to watch that moving. It's a hard movie to watch. And dad didn't want to do. He was tough for him to go back you and relieve people. But we said that, and mom do both.

We just said, I think this can help a lot of people, you know, a lot of people who were in similar situations. And so you have they stayed together. And so the first chat of the book is that.

And and so I think about like this, like fifty years ago that happen. And if that doesn't happen, this family does not stay together. If the family doesn't stay together, there's no duck commander, there's no duck commander, there's no dog Nancy, there's no poc. As I don't aware, then my whole life would look completely different. And so part of the reason for us be an still so excited about our faith is because we feel like we know everything we have to our had not been for faith would a bit over, you know, marries over out.

So I mean, do you remember a time before your father was an, do your brothers?

They do. They do. I don't really. Everything I remember was was great in and he went from, you know, darkness to light.

And he early, it's kind like saw and paul the bible, he was like this old person. Then they just turned and just went and just the blaze. And he just want to share the house with everybody he knew, you know, because I guess he had lived. He said, I lives a bad, and I gonna go help these people. So he became known, he became a known goss fellar of, just known for preaching the gospel everybody.

A gospell is someone who preaches .

a IT is it's a, it's a real word. A it's not, it's an old word. You and I never so I write this book two thousand and twenty, you know, cover like, I want to write this book.

And so was about sharing your faith. And my wife is always mother than I am. SHE comes because I could not figure what's call in SHE because, well, I found this word called goss power. And IT used to be very common place, and IT was not necessary.

Pastoral was just like common folk were just known for sharing the gospel uh and IT simply means someone shares the gospel people either publicly or personal and IT didn't fall short of me that the word is literally a dinosaur's one's ever heard of that but at one point in america, in europe, this was a common word and they were called known gas fellers I found a law I wanted say was I was up to north IT was like nobody can stop up a praise or a known gospell from preaching on the towns are IT was actually in a wow, that world wow, amazing. Yes so he found the word. So how did you grow up?

Like, grow up in a world where Christian he .

was at the center everything I 就是 number one， number one no doubt about IT so IT wasn't like, ah we should try to go to church IT wasn't IT was, you know every and we had so many bible studies that is just really went all we like because what happened if we would want you kind of known for that, so people would bring people down to the house for failed to talk to and there was the most way with people I like murder, crazy st. People ever.

I would just and I would just go that no matter who they worry, we would just sit. They're on the couch and he faded on supper and then he would jump into the bow and just was five to these, really all them all. And then that started teaching bobber classes.

So he would teach his bobber class on sunday. He, but he would just study like, craze, like just crazy person. this. And my father is never owned computer. He's never owned a cell phone.

He's have a cell phone.

How do you text him? You know just like you go find in so I call and i'm like there there a do there's a do down they near so you call ham but you ve got to go found him is like in the world no you you get if you want to track you down.

you get to find them you see so on .

no but I was but yeah, that was just read and study. You know you were just just thirsting for knowledge and i'd love the knowledge, but then i'd love to to share that that's kind the point of the book is this turny dark st in light one conversation at a time and that that the tag line comes from. It's good, funny how my business mixed with my faith.

So we have some new products for dear, and it's this this feature we can you click a button so right at that time, where is real dark going to damp still legal shoot hours and IT just boom IT just goes turns IT in the it's daylight it's crazy how what is IT it's pulling lie, whatever amy like, it's amazing. So we had this new product. I'm looking at all the marketing material and they had on there, uh, turn, turn dark into light.

And when I saw that, I went, that's a tackle from my book, turning darters like one conversation time. So do a conversation. Mai had to go now, gone and shared with that, know, he was the one that I actually planned to see a or shared with that.

And then, and that's where I started just that conversation. And then I watched, you know, hundreds and hundreds of other people just do a conversation, lead to a life change. And so and so what I wonder, he was go to the book and go through.

Kind how to do that because a lot of people, they're so intimate, they don't know what to say, and they like the idea, but that there like a hope, somebody tell somebody about their faith or about jesus. But in me, I don't know how to do that. I don't it's like I don't know where to start.

I don't know. The bible love. And so we kind of disqualify ourselves from a lot of those for all those reasons. And so I just try to go through and tell stories now, pull stories from the new testament. Just conversations like especially conversations like, especially in the book of bags, like that's where you're really seen kind of the church meet with the world and just pull the conversations like this is what they said then this is how you .

could share with others. So you your family, despite living in a very rural area, you've got a duck call business and your serious, a Christian, you want up in television. Yeah, which was like the opposite of all of that.

yeah. So how do you have? So the crew comes in for whatever you're meeting with the studios executive from wherever, but not from western allies. Ana, no. How do you begin a conversation on about your faith with something like that?

Well, IT was obvious. I may. I think the face just comes to, and every was gonna hard to separate that, separate the faith and so but owners to a television enough to know that, you know, IT can just be a certain, you know, it's got no right. The people who .

run television, I have noticed from spending a lifetime there, not super receptive for the message.

They weren't, as you know, a lot of people asked me that like we ended every show with the prayer and um and I give out almost get this like weekly is like I bet they didn't want that prayer and but that wasn't the case were good you know like good for that yeah wasn't wasn't a battle at all.

Just a good way to in the show that new faith was important as and um and that's how they that's how we ended every show was with that prayer but there wasn't a lot a lot of resistance at all from that. So no, I think people they thought I was the case. I wanted to know I maybe the and IT really wasn't IT was like and then wants .

IT works and wants .

its the bigger show every and reality T V H we love that that was already know you know, IT IT worked. And so once we talked about how to do IT, and my father is, he was so funny with the share. So when I went down to tell the dad, you know, get this a this television hate the days to do, you know, and what the idea come from, I said, it's a way to get the gospel out to more people and that's what I, he says, sharing about that because you take IT can I said, I don't say one on, they give the times up like, what do the T, V, I think more people so you do feel like that.

What are the mechanics of IT? Because IT seems like IT would take over your life completely.

IT does. So like how does that work? It's a lot of we didn't know when we started like we are not. Um I get A I get an email uh this is so we had done another television show on the outdoor channel and in the same way like my IT was my wife idea corry said cory wash, reality television is he from she's from the city and from the stakes so um so he says she's watching all this reality television and he said 的， well, I think I think your family has have a reality T V show and .

that's not a compliment well when your wife says your family .

needs a reality T V show that I said, that's what in really and I said, cory, where are just Normal people and SHE goes, really I like and they so what he was like, you guys like SHE goes out everything for a long time.

Where do you meet about summer?

Can't fifth grade? Can't chiou A K OK. Yeah, her, uh, yeah, sir, sit on the swing. So her grandfather and father were business, very successful business guys in part of their charity worth the'd built this summer camp. And so now that we're new believers, my parents, zr, that was a new thing.

Like now we're going to church summer camp, you know and we've never been to charge something and there was like and we couldn't afford. So when we were pull up to the camp, my mother had no money and SHE would be. So we would have our bag pack like we're ready and she's are here to deal.

You'll stay here. Let me go if I can trade working in the kitchen for you guys to come if they say yes, sure an if they say no, go back the house and we're just like, please say yes which what's funny is IT IT was my wife's parents who were making the decision. My, as IT turns out in life, I later made their daughter run the camp. There was the same camp I was going to get into.

That's amazing.

So every time they said yes, and so they would like, and so we would go and I see this girl, she's on the song, I can see her to this day, and got this big, giant nineteen girl and I said, I ask, call, you know, heard dad them they there, the one to run the camp and so went over in torture. I invited on the main light hike, and SHE said, yes. And we went on the maryland height and fifth cry, and we didn't keep dating with, and we didn't get married that year.

but we wait.

you get married. Nineteen, eighteen.

You were nineteen.

Two was eighteen. I proposed when he was seventeen. I was eighteen.

What did dad say? He didn't like?

IT a Betty didn't. He didn't like. He didn't like the idea.

He wasn't. They were very well off. They were, yeah, they lived in a neighbor. Od, and I pull up in this neighed that i'm like looking around. It's like no grass, like .

the .

spring sym. Oh, man, this I look around and there's not one visible barn power anywhere.

No, i'm go in like what do these people do with their garbage? I don't know there was another play so we don't have to talk right so and I know they like we went to church and never and but he just was like, now you need to wait you're too Young and and we're his dad say what I know you're made so so we have a meeting and he's such he's a smart business guy and he's got all these papers. He's got statistics and s and files. Now i'm just sit there White t shirt like he blow me when he's making me so mad you know because i'm like giving him i'm patient vision and you .

know what was your .

vision well, Chris, like my brothers like, come on, man coming great and he's like, you haven't thought about all these things in life and finally just goes so mad he's like, not just him yeah he said we're exactly do you plan on living with my daughter, you know and rought up a masset a lot reconnoiter trig up in the back of fails house and was living for free. That is your vision. nothing.

我 把 这边 就。 那样 like Normal people。 But they went out.

So last fall, I was out in less vegas, and I ran into the oval, who's hilarious. And I want of doing a podcast with the oval. And I have a ten of zen on the side with me, and he says, what's that? And I start joking about product coating pouches.

And I say, in effect, this is a cure for erect out this function hole. Joking, of course. Not serious.

Not a doctor. Never even think about making medical blames. I have no idea if that's true.

I'm totally kidding. It's what we call a joke in the business is a joke is not serious. So I get home. And there is a letter from the general council of in written in the most supersonics to whom IT may concern mister curson or representative there of IT has come to our attention of a national known, you made an inaccurate health claim. Our product.

What is this? What did I do? You should know that there is no medical study that suggests that our product is an effective E A.

done. Dm, most humorous thing i've ever seen. And IT was instantly recognizable to me as someone who was worked to big companies most of my life.

He was a product of hr lawyer culture. Only like a pro and company could issue a letter like this. And I was like, somewhere on this planet, somebody is laughing.

We must make them stop, call a general council, issue an nasty letter. And I thought to myself, I cannot even buying their product. I have nothing in common with these people that they can take a joke.

They are stupid and they hate me, and they hate humor and they hate joy. And I thought to myself, alternative because, no, i'm going to spend another dollar on a product made by people like this. And so we create an alternative, a huge dot com show in tomorrow, a brand new world of nicotine pouches.

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Started party two years later was just been basing and we're great. I mean, I so her best house in my house, literally it's like A I know you don't play off. It's a pitching wedge away from and we was ripped at each other no, yeah, I say every day yeah. And I learned most of what I learned to business. I learned from here.

How many grandes did you give pay?

Pay so far? You have IT.

I .

have IT to his.

how? How many day eight great grandchildren? How many kids did you have with his daughter?

How many kids? How many kids have? six? six? He's going to be put to just the way you ask I, you .

backwards.

I stand. I have six children, eight grandchildren. So yeah, a man, but other great. And so we live there on the, and we all live right there. We is all connected.

And so how long you take you to win a yes from your father? Well.

I mean, I was after that night, he wanted me to come over to their house. And so cory was, he was in college. So SHE wasn't even there. When all this happened, SHE was in, I wasn't going to college, uh, I was going to similar.

I was going to a preacher and and so like corey calls and says they want you to come over and I there he's going to come pick you up and take you over their house I said now he said, why not I said, i'll have to welcome SHE was all ty man I said, oh, it's gonna bad and they don't have a red, don't way back miles. It's like seven miles I said, no, i'm not time to come over here so he comes over where I was stay in and I was living with my brother at the time and IT was in his mom and me. We're all the cat together in my mother like he was in between us.

But I I thank you. My punch me and I was ready. I have three brothers and selves like which got to find this.

I go, let's go, you know but then he was after that night, they said, okay, in the ethic, just a six months later, we got marry and we will drive into the wedding and he said, you know what I I said what I said, that's the way I felt. But now we're good. And I literally never heard another word about IT like, really, he was great.

So is your wife to come up the idea for duck dynasty?

yep. Then I had to go to fill, and then because originally I was on outdoor channel.

yeah and I was .

approach bob and I was shot, guns, shot show. Have you been? Yeah, yeah.

So I was approach about them right after he said that they were like, here you guys, I can do real T. V. Show with the corry just said we should do a reality T. V show and he goes, well, let's let, let's have a meeting and so, um so we SAT down and they said, hey, will will pay for production. You guys be on the show.

Uh, thankfully there two guys that came in that they just hired who who they came out of reality television so we hired them for like to in house you all their commercials and stuff they do and we love and ally and we love the shotgun so was like, yeah and so we're going into the deals and so rather the inquires uh, he's she's is such a smart business person and i'm excited. I'm like, this is our business going go. I got a that will see more lucky, like would be an outdoor channel like us.

free shot guns .

plus three shot guns. I was like, plus three other does like, this is the smoke and deal, you know? And so coy says, so we're going to go up to maryland, think this without maryland.

We're had this meeting course sh'd been reading these books and she's goes, well, I think, I think, I think they should pay a talent fee. I've never heard that were I said, what is time of fish goes like they should pay out to be on this as a corner. Don't get greedy like this is a gift they're paying for production and shot guns yes, yeah.

And she's like, well, IT won't her to ask and I said, what? Okay but I said, here's the deal. When you ask if you get any weird sense of board the mission, get out and do not screw this thing sound like because I was like, this is our big chance you go run and I ask for you so we go in the meeting guys going to so okay, will start production here.

What do this then and he guys I think about about ready to go of course I one more thing she's like, um we're think that you should pay the guys a talent fee was a what were you thinking? He said we were thinking in thirty thousand dollars a peace with me for the whole season and i'm making twenty eight thousand dollars a year. That's my salary. Are you doing that was my job. I made two thousand.

What was your job?

That was my whole early job. I made twenty years. He just ask for thirty for to do this thing, which would essentially double my 配。 And when SHE said thirty, I like h my gosh, like that way too much and the god literally just goes, yeah, okay, no problem.

And I like crap, which is said fifty, which city he said, so then, and here's what kind of see you. And so we were excited. So we go back to the house and go back.

What happened, well, boys, were you fixed to do is a television show, the outdoor channel. And guess what else? I got us thirty thousand dollars.

I'd like, I was mad and and I just like, we were like, we did. IT is over. We finally figured out we get free.

We do what our best we have to do, T V show. We have no that ever done and we lost into that show. Um this would have been probably o eight, yeah someone at eight.

Um so we lots into the show where to cut t so we've making D B D and hunting videos. Now we go on this TV with these these boys from reality TV were there. So we really learn how do television yeah how to do, you know, uh, what was gonna become alternate diagnostic?

Um IT was a IT was a different show I have was just like hard core, do you know and all the good they were shown their products and um but the other half was just like silly reality stuff that we just came up and I kind of focused on that my brother and dad, they the hard hunting in the house over there doing, hi, we can show this and we just wow crazy stuff we were doing and uh and the show was super popular like in in that world. Everybody loved IT and we won awards and there are sales when a more people round up because our t shirts. So I was like, hey, we did IT man.

And I had to sell. The part of the deal was I had to sell half the advertiser or so because then that when you get your commercial, then you have to go salem. So but I have an assets to have him.

And he was so funny, like he was hard selling what everyone is gonna duck. Now, the hard selling an ad for this thing. I did not settle on mother, I would sell my ads, and that was part of the deal I had to do.

So then we get an email, I get a generic email information, a duck commander, and there's no time I made. They just never, never get looked at, of course. Ah it's a duty that i'm a produced laws.

Angeles, i've watched the show and outdoor channel. He saw that show. I think you guys have a really big show. Give me a call left number sector comes in and says, I get this emails and I said there from els Angels SHE said, do want me to thrown away or do you want me to respond and I looked, as said, our response I R response say, this is and I get on the car with him in man, he is a fast credo.

L lays like this ung, this will be the bigger show up until you i've got something this big ah yeah and like like you have a really big show. Like you got we got to take this thing bigger you know this good this is on cable. This is and i'm thinking this guys fall a crap and like I said, you think so and he said he said, will you will not be able to walk down the street without people, everybody recognizing who you are enough like, I think, you know.

And so I so so what do we need to do if we were to do that? He, so we will make a service. Ref, we had just done like three seasons of the show, so we took three minutes, and then he started pitching around the networks.

And there was a lot of interest you got, remember, this is the time lusiva. The tax crews were big, like before georgia, loose animals on the hot bed. And there are tons of shows on our state is like there's so much culture and just fun people in our state anyway.

And so he had Billy the terminate, uh, swap a swat people, uh, sons of guns always are losing on the show by you bay in s tonto. Shows being shop there. So if you had anything in losing ana, because they knew they could go, say, forty percent, you know, in the state.

And he saw IT, and we wrote the outdoor china, he saw. And then I know where comes A N E, A N E. I didn't really know anything about IT and I I didn't watch know what IT was and he said any essential in two pilots and i'm like, what does that mean?

What he says well, if they pick IT up, that's where we want to be uh, to good mixed audience like men and women watch any a big company as no combine with history channel A, B, C, this is the host and E, S, P, N. And so he said the promise, if I pass on his dad, like because about to say all they passed yeah. And so we shot two pilots for any, I had no idea what we doing.

And then the film crew got giant, you know, they sent down this huge crew and and we had no idea. We just kind of when to, nobody know we were doing. So what's? I didn't know if IT was good, and I didn't know, you know.

And so what was interesting was they didn't know, they didn't know what exactly they were getting. So if you if you kind of looked at up picture of this, you'd be like, I think I thought we like granted and really good and. Speak english so they didn't that and they does mean like danger, like elected, you know so they come so hey, so we shot the love and they where we the band is is is not the show we were ordering like at all.

We were all shocked. We're like, they said the good news is its way Better than what we thought we were getting. And they were like, this is a family show because nobody heads put us in any category of family, even though we are family.

But I was like, they didn't. I think they talk. I like, we don't laugh at these, but you know, these are, they just totally .

been honey booo.

right? They didn't realize, right, that because some of their ideas, initially something was like, the women folk out, get the puzzle s skin in a my wife, like these women folk do not, we don't even go in the so so but they saw. And then there was this comedy, this rule, because the first show we don't know know china wasn't really funny.

And once we saw this kind of committee thing come out, that's what I mean that was what really, I think think set IT apart was it's funny. It's a fun. You know it's something laugh. You know it's a funny show.

What's I mean, what's the process of filming IT?

Um well.

you said your house got descended on by a storm of producers.

IT was, yeah so we we shot all our houses, especially man pressing my mouth was kind of them because the show was kind of we didn't know in this going because we didn't know what we were done, but IT was kind of a shot through mars. And so you would have like, well, he's dad with his wife, so you're watching as a viewer, you're wash IT through. So I was the Normal, Normal person.

And anybody else this is crazy. You know, this chaos is happen. And some, they are crazy.

And so some people that just like themselves, like my father, just let him that never understood what exactly we were doing. Like he never understood the show. He never liked IT. He never he told me early on he was like, well telling, we need more preaching on the shaft.

And as a dad, there's another ribs and family with a shell like that is the seven hundred or not that show like this is this is not that are you related to them? But he was like, not not that me for money. So I guess i'm not everybody related to make anything .

for monday.

You like didn't be a player. So yeah, he never quite understood the show to my dog at this once to my dog at so my long time. So where we say they just didn't underthought was so goody, we were just been stupid.

And so he said that this is my favorite thing that ever happened, diagnosis that never got show so we had the dinner seen every time, you know yeah and so we're on like episode eighty, you know and you know the power T V is, you know you got these kids. They come in from L A twenty five years old. They're telling you what to go.

You don't look right is just it's kind of weird when you become the CEO of your company, do this now your yeah you're listening to people you don't know and they're telling me what to do. And so I think my dad had gotten will pass the point of that at this point. That's prety quickly.

So we're set on the table. We're just in there, know we done this thousand, you know and just on the table, okay, little Young producers like OK, mr. Feel you, pray, action so we and fill said, father, I pray for these bunch of hidden from last Angeles, california with the take coffees in their filthy language Operate you don't burn mall and hill for their simple is amy.

We were, we were laughing so hard because none of us knew that was coming. None of us real. And so we all look at, we just like looking, I O, what was that? And the Young produced, they never missed a be like, thank you, mr. feel. Now can we do another friend that we can actually put on television?

I'd never air.

No red. No red was so funny. So yeah, dad didn't quite understand.

But me, these cameras are in your house .

for what they but you you know um well, IT was like walking into hair yeah, we're film in here. Yeah obviously .

a campus are .

in a thousand camp. I was a little worried too, but I thought we did a bad idea. So we stay up too late. Last night we returned to IT was so fun, true, and I was glad so we get up this morning we go shoot tones a road walking around and then we go at, I think I two pounds of .

meat love at least yeah I said.

at least I okay you did is want to know I like your play a lot and I thought that's not a good recipe for too long .

like that afternoon .

did of my demands so because I ve heard recently about people on their podcast and demands .

and we are .

yeah and I said a demand, we have to flatter another state. Shoot birds that more this should be every, this should be every pocket.

And IT was literally in the contract that you sign with us where you demanded lemon squares after I thought that's a bit.

That's a little much. Yeah, not just this. Go we have to go find somewhere to actually this was your idea. And so thank you. I was gonna go to main.

Yes, don't have any questions in may.

No, this was a Better this, this was a way Better.

And if you kid, I don't know, have Better of this morning, if you could shoot two grows a day in may, you're the best grows in.

You're good shot too. I'm telling you, I hope i'm telling you you're good shut. I'm not I wasn't surprise. I know you .

hand as good as I should be after all the tracks I tell but now it's actually, I miss the bird. Bird got too aggressive with me and IT intimidate me. And I always think, you know, when you are bird hunting, you're the pursuit, you're the aggression, you're the predator.

And the bird turns IT around and try to flap your nose. I just, I freeze and mr. Bird.

everyone, and you had to. It's .

unnatural.

I was here a month ago doing this fastest hunting. I didn't grab fashion hating, so we were poor. I have a father and come IT clearly is coming in my family.

yeah. And I didn't know what to do. And I took the share and I went back like, I was gonna IT IT like a baseball bat.

And I and I, uh, if I, A little more is a what I can. The god said, you should down IT was that close? I think he had been hit. So he was, he's coming down.

He like, don't like, he was so close and there's a picture and you see me to like this, but I need to go short, right? And they have thought, what are not? Can you imagine if just presence of man, that's what separates the the most out of that one, the just grab that socket out the air.

Would that an earn Rogers move?

Follow IT? And at one day i'm gonna gna schedule like I was much of thesen hunting. Do I get that same scenario to happen? I watch my father .

get hit right in the chest on a driven pg shot for phone I was a kid, knocked him right danny was turning talking to somewhere in the fezzans came in and hit right just bay's big man.

Did you grow up on yeah how you oh yes, yeah. He used to be only crazy.

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yes. How did you get off from mcDonald to go work .

and come a thing? So did you like what was IT like to go from being maybe locally famous to nationally famous?

Yeah, nighty cause but IT was, man, i'm so appreciate. So IT was like we did just enough to get comfortable enough to figure out what IT is that you're doing. And I love the you know the progression.

You I think zero, you just like nothing to something. 嗯， but IT was just enough like we knew just up T V, and then we had done some, you know, stuff to work if we win in best proof up or what was like document gas. And but just enough, but they want once we hit that, the really national spot, like especially to the level our show was, IT was crazy.

IT was a crazy, not good for you.

No, IT was a good. Now anywhere, business is not because business is crazy and trying to do everything you know, you a business trying to run your business. And then hazle really unique because the nature of the show look like we were good and off by.

And well, then i'm getting know fifty thousand orders where we can fill them. And then I get people email me, I just saw your goods enough. I just watch the shit like that's really go.

The more people here, we really are working. 再来 is not everything you see on the TV show what exactly happened that day， you know exactly that day. So IT was IT was crazy. IT was we the first holidays we crash our computer, think three times. Um IT was so bad because they ordered their product so we got their money and then IT crash, but we didn't know what they want you.

so we have your money.

We don't know what you do, just try to put out some I can be I don't you tell us what well, just generally, what do you think we will just try the ships of people like those are good problems to have. And no, they're not. They're terrible problem. They're terrible problems to have. Just really overwhelmed, just wasn't wasn't ready.

And and I think that when we did the show where others meeting and my wife course says, do you think we should order more duck calls and I said, no, nobody is gna order dark out, you know, even if you like the show, what would you need a dark call if you're not a duck hunter? What he a was a really people buying decorated doctors. People just found any duck cut like they just wanted do. I mean, unless we just they wanted a piece of the show and that was, that was the .

piece they want any .

that calls to you. Oh, may and and a half or something great calls. Yeah and the year before we done fifty thousand, fifty thousand, one point five million.

That's great.

It's insane. It's since we work in twenty four years that I had crues ahead everybody that who .

could possibly how .

much child labor and not much child labor somewhere.

What does your kids think of the whole thing?

That's what I was. I mean, I think that's your big fear. I mean, you're fear is is IT gna. How is IT play with them? Yeah, I always say the show. In life, i've been able to do a lot of things and most of things my kids, we're gonna you have done Better done, you know college, have children, get married, you will move what I mean, a only thing I had zero experienced with was being famous at a Young age. I understood at forty because I was forty when the show came out um but being sixteen now and also you've got the beginning of social media too and so that's new as well. And so he I think the Price struggle you know with some of them are certainly some the aspects of IT um understood the good of and you know figured out a way how to use IT know use what IT was for for the good and then ditch the stuff that was .

there not about IT.

Now no, they're not. How many married? four? Five, five?

How do you get your kids to get IT married .

so Young? Yeah, I don't know. I didn't encourage IT. You didn't. Well, that was the day I tell you about my Young. This was my math. I said, how are you nineteen eighty? Just like you're the same age we were.

We get so interesting that because he couldn't say how we waited and but now they wanted to get, you know, they get around the same major and they get made as well. But is not like I said, here's how we do around these parts. You know, not all they just now.

And now you found the right one. And then like a commitment, go, it's pretty great. Now I really is great.

It's great. Is in your Young, I granted, on a Young, Young grandparent. No, it's fun when you're Younger, you know not.

So how long did the show go?

Five years, one hundred and thirty episodes .

why they ended.

There are a lot of reasons, I think, when IT gets more expensive that just keeps getting more expensive. Yeah you know everything is that like your fees go up with everything is everybody production and this keeps and so that you know it's i'm assuming I mean, I think I like a baseball player like you pay tin may in out at first space, he hits forty five four runs. We could buy a gap five thousand.

Maybe he will hit yy twelve home. good. Now that you so sure they are like we can make other shows and some of you just played out. I mean, you like you just kind of run out of that.

Like what's what do we do? You like you is that more kids? Is that it's like you've done so many I mean hundred and thirty episodes with two story lenses, two hundred and sixty store at at last we know yeah, we were certainly ready and we were ready for break.

He was a house a lot when in the first year and we filmed we film ten months that year. Yeah, this is not some couple month there, you know. And this is not like .

how many days a week.

The first year we did six days a week and we did even some sunday, sunday afternoon just get them. We were just that there .

was hard months.

there was hard IT was hard good a lot. But we were just know at that point. We like figured out and never just became so popular, gotten more ever there. And like, keep make them keep my and so found what I time out, you renegotiate. And so part of that we went to a monday to thirty schedules, stuff you need to do um because it's not like you worked everyday, but you're on the schedule of that along. So some days you may not be may IT be on that afternoon, do you know till IT comes out, you know, on the schedule, kind of wear your ads.

Did you refill.

misrepresent about the show ah, now because, you know, I kind of a play a part like I had a part that I played on the show, and I was kind of consistent of IT just kept me IT was authentic I mean was like on the C E. O on the head gar.

And so I think in order to make some of the work, you know you can have to have A A bag bag yeah and I think it's kind of the so comedy contract like you think about, like the stories you think about in school and church. You know, funny thing this when you're going in, try right course. So fun.

Ty, like you can not. So some of that was was kind like that, you know, let them do stuff. And then then I like, this is so stupid, not like, because I was stupid, but such kind, you know. So for my role in IT and and then I was also the gather and narrated you through the shows. So I to keep you, I to keep you up on what was going on because because people get confused, they get and when if you get confused, and if you don't, if you get figure to show out, you'll just change, change, of course, because IT makes you felt done yeah, in your life. Oh, I can watch this is because I can't figure out.

did you watch the shows?

We did? I did. I don't. I never like watching, really, myself, not like watching speeches are other stuff.

But we watched that together because half of the show I never knew what happened, because IT wasn't the part I wasin they like, meanwhile, down with the river. And so I didn't see that stuff. And IT was, Harry said, watch to go.

This is so fun 的， because I didn't know what I was watched with. Everybody is the world. And that was so fun to go get so take on that some of the stuff they would do.

So we've watched together. We like my family would all get together and the kids were Younger. So was cool for them to be able to to see themselves on TV.

How are they treated .

at school because of IT um different I me everybody treated different, you know but they were IT was pretty more I have pretty good and bad you know they didn't go to school as much as like they were out of school a lot。 So we had to teacher their own set just because there was a lot today. So they weren't.

They just had to do all how the school said they did a ton of school from from the house just because that's what he had to do. But they were they were in a Christian school, and they were pretty linear. I mean, none of the grades I was lanier on, I let them play sports and they could still participate and stuff like that, you know, even though they were kind of do in school from a far.

what did to end the show?

twelve? A seventeen maybe so .

you would have to end itself. I mean, at some point you're going run to the the political problem, right? Show like that.

Yeah when you say political problem.

well, I mean, I don't know know you you live in lizana. You run a hunting related company in your Christian, you're probably going to reach a different political .

conclusion of problem just yeah, he was the president and yeah, trump was right there.

But remember that trump we did we .

did because I kind of wasn't that kind of IT wasn't like really reality like that IT wasn't like he didn't see stuff from ready. The like government would be filmed at the groceries to would would have to turn the magazines around because we review the cover my god, on the show it's too .

fourth walled.

Yeah, I was a little IT was a little but yeah, I trump was, uh, now that was right when trump yeah, I know I stick my toe in the water a little bit that when .

on the area .

ded now just in life yeah, just with trumping yeah I mean.

see different world now though, right? I mean.

well, in my moves, a little night eve, I just thought, this is cool. You know, I like, I like when I first heard about, oh, we we need a business guy. We need, I get these politicians.

We need a bit. That's exactly who we need. And and he had a reality T V shows.

I was like, he is like, so in the meeting, how you try the red door? So first I met him. I was doing A, I was an oklahoma city.

My son was speaking at some time. I went to hear him speak. We've been elko ing now my son of man of body, we're outcoming and the dude has a plane.

I say, can we stop in here? My son, to give a space yeah so we go there and see him. We're at lunch and this guy said, hey, guess who's in town?

I said, who is said, the trump is done of this rallies. This is back fifteen and you always doing this right? He was at the oklahoma ate fair and I was like, oh, we got to go.

We gotta. This is awesome, you know? And I had just met don jia, who's a hunter, and that that's how we we met each other. We just met and talked. And, uh, so I emailed him or taxi and just say, hey, your dad doing this rally, I was gonna check IT out like, cool. I set IT up and I rember i've got a police officer because I was like, there's no way I can go this oh, mistake but like, i'm going to a get mob but I know. And I may be more recognizable than Donald d trump in oklahoman city at two thousand fifteen.

And so I show I have this cop with me um I get there's an R V in the back so it's like a outdoor you know the giant right? You know it's outdoor saying there's an R V so I get on this R V may my buddies and in my cup friend and there's these other people now there's like cater person, there's a big paal and this this is funnier er there's a dude on there and he comes up to me is got a air peace and but he's like gun beach short science you know ah who is this guy? I said, what he said, I get a picture I said, yeah I said, what do you do because I don't know who work for truth trumps not there yet know, because I do all kind of stuff, you know he said, do you wants to see my gun now have been around.

You've been enough. Has any security person ever ask you? Do you want to see my god? No, that's not a no.

I'm look at this cake. So I take a picture. And courtly, a dash is on the bus. He goes, if you, I would really get off the bus. And all these people, people started getting off the bus, right? And so here comes the whole onto oj, you know, and try because I made him.

Is IT really, really a, you see the crowd here to me, he, him for you, a huge right of, and is a huge crap for someone like you, you know. And so I kind of my bodies, just like this, is the body is like, ever, I look back on the in corridor. I look back that dude, he said he had a gun, is talking to truth.

He didn't get off the bus and he's got like his booker something and I could say, like trump does that he just looks and that's back when he like giant security wasn't the now guys so charge this is look, there's a look here, the economy o is that day with you I said, no, is not me I said and he said he had a gun and when I said that who they grab this guy like the and just three of the buds and trust this father and so I was like, and they're all look I could tell and I am outlook to my say what can Operation run here that really my debt because I making fun of their security um but I was a true story like this thankful that I had the cup IT was a detective more con the city so later, a week later, he calls me is willing said, I found out that he brought the porter parties in to the fair and he tells the fair director, anything else I can help you with. I do what they start putting to work you don't know he has an air pace because they're telling his whole thing was he wanted get trump sounds book. He did the whole thing. He goes he didn't even know you're gona be their euro bonus. He was excited at the picture of me in that well.

that's amazing.

So some on the bus, so so trumps fixing go speed. Well, when I went to this deal, my wife, I said, like trump speaking, and even go and check IT out. SHE says, really do not, do not get on that station, just don't worry.

Out of this i'm not volte, Bobby. Gender was run and he was a family man. I was in any stuff.

And so the really, did you want to get up, say anything to the crowd? I said, no, I was trouble. Good and good.

You go here, you know that you know that this political, you know, but I though he's not a politician, so prom maybe won, do IT. So I go out. I'm like he gets on the stage.

I thought if people don't do is going to around that and so there's a stairwell and so i'm kind of hiding in this because I I don't really, really want to be seen at this point like this might be like there's really, really sometimes I look like, no, i'm kind of like lean in the stairwell and i'm thing roth, the way is gna go like, hey, guess we're here you know Nathan truth just goes into a speech he's china is thirty minutes day by this time i'm we're at we're to laughed and we're like, this is the fun st thing I never dreamed at the first I was like, this is good to see, you know and and from dirty mistake you just stops he looks when I goes, where's Willy and my heart stopped out where, oh my god. Please tell me he knows another good name, Willy, that going to stay there and he just search, walk, well, the house, really? Where is that? Yeah, and nobody knows what he's talking about.

Let's go on. Who's really? And my body's going, Willy, you gotto go up there and I said, like, I am not prepared to go up on the stage.

He's like, he's calling for you this day, so I pop up on the stage. Whether that goes crazy, like, like, oh, my, 我也 认真 的。 It's, I like, I suck.

Is I A good job and I go to pull away. He doesn't let go my hand he just holds in. I'm like a trap and i'm going and is time.

Hi, hi, hey, I got something that do you know who this is? My god, he, this is the biggest television star in america. crazy.

And i'm like, oh, please, you guys, do you love trump? And thanks with the back.

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talker. My brain is going and so fast, I like, because there is a situation. We've got ten thousand people here.

They're all there. Here they are there. See me. And now he's asked me the super awkward tion. I like, i've art indoors, but be gentle like and I leave to the then I gonna, yeah, yeah.

I do you like me some truth, right? Chairs, you know and I said, IT drops bahama with his hands on my show. He's ready to find that.

I think around this, me and I said, here's a deal, the of three things in common. We both had successful television shows. We both were successful business, and we both married people that look way Better than we do. 谢 利亚。 Welcome to the deal. And i'm still just like literally kind of shaking from the whole experience and the I get in the stair where my bodies and oh my god, I can't believe that just happen in my phone just immediately starts going crazy, just buzz zing.

And so i'm looking at that no, you know what I started, it's my body go h my gosh, we just saw, oh go and I seen a screen transmission and with the sun and his bahama like this and then there is my wife's and I want oh, no and he said, did you just endorse stuff on true president? I said, this screen shot the picture with you. I said, IT turn as IT no, why would you say that he was like, do not going on stage and there I am on the stage.

And the next day I got in an uber car in our comity to the airport. I'm sitting right beside the driver, yoga, he looks at me, goes, what do you fail to do last night I said, we went to the oklahoma, ate fair. He goes, so did, uh, he goes, I went to say, Donald, so did he.

He's going to the next present the states I said, you think so he said, oh yeah, oh yeah, we believe in him. He's gonna the president and I said, do you see that day to get up in the middle of the speech? I'm this part.

He goes, you know who that was? Willie Robertson from duck dynasty. He flew in just to indoor. And I said, really he got, oh yeah, he's a huge fan of mr. trump.

Yeah, he's a big television guy and I, me and I said, started, you know who I am? He looks like because no idea I said, i'm that did i'm well, I was on the stage and I think is going to freak. He goes, you had a different band down.

I own. I said, I didn't have a different bandanna. Yeah, yeah, I didn't recognize you that other Better home that's I met. Have you ever met? I began.

I have yeah I saw him a couple of more times he did but on june the house uh hunted uh that when we set up a we set up feel feel maybe so that my dad um so dad I go so don genres gonna duca with us because i'm coming down the style card party who said that i'm going on a mexico for my anniversary four days, four days on so i'll go to mexico yeah and your phones are jacked up down there you know it's like numbers come in. Some live in the mexico airport. Come to america.

I get this call. I don't, but he doesn't say who IT is. I answer, this dude is talking so fast.

I like, he is nowhere within a thousand miles where I live in the south, IT was a northern accent. He is, i'm like, now, so so who is this? He goes, it's done.

Junior, so what's up? We all go. I don't know if I can come.

I don't know. I don't know. We still got to figure out.

I said, oh, what happened? He was like, because what your dad did? I been gone for four days, and my four days, what? Who has the offended? What has he done? And I ker says about my dad, he lives on the end of a dead end street, does not have a cell phone, does not have a computer, but somehow he can get messages out all over the world like instant.

It's amazing. How is how he can do this? My, what did they do? He said, he endorsed ted cruz.

I said, no. I was like, where did that come from? He goes, there's commercials. I, so there's commercials.

In four days, he has met tech rys and he is endorse technical and there's commercial he goes, yes, they're playing right now sap pull up the commercial feels feels in the duck land so it's tag and they all get he got this place. He doesn't look like he's input. Yeah he's likely scared to dad.

There's like, and I got choose in their bag, you know, spits come out their mouth and then there's take like, I can take my ice and best way. So fAiling, we're own. Take crews. He is a brother in Christ.

We're all voting for me and obviously I went, oh my god so I call the house mom matches the phone I said, mom, words feel his in the woods I said, crap I A tell you, you can try to find ny said he got what's wrong you said he just made a commercial attend cruise nobody these are things you have to tell me like you say, you have to let me in on and SHE goes on now he knew to be mad of that. He knew you like trump. Uh, but you know, tair cruel showed up with the match of TV cameras and, uh, I don't know the next thing I know and I say, well, mom, he said, we're all voting for him.

We're not although and he goes, no, no, no, he didn't mean all you boys. He mean all the Christians I said, mom, i'm a Christian. You know what I mean? So okay, so we so we set up so we set up.

Uh, so down in your family kind is like I like i'm not coming down there. You're endorse that, you know. So we're we're going set of that good. So we're going by n them down. You come down, know his lights out ah and I knew know his old now so dad blown away so I want .

a good shot down is yeah.

oh yeah and so so I reach out to handy handy I said, put me in fuel on the show i'm back in trump he's back in creese apparently and as how much said that circus we get on the show, dad and I go and after and I still hang out one question to ask you um from the show I said you feel recently went up coming with take cruise and he also went hunting with trump I just said trump but I said, well I said a dad who exactly the Better hunter feels that and I doubt about IT that cap from new york and and shoes so i've got him saying that crews wasn't good at because I have daddies yeah he can get the broad and finally, crude dropped out like a this and so then they all came on board.

You've been on board .

ever since he has been. He has been. I mean.

is there anyone in the world that I mean, I think things have changed since then, of course, but like the world live inss probably prety much time of percent trump at this point.

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did you have a lot of friends voting?

Yeah, what I mean, well, just because I know a lot of people out there. And so no, I am. Yeah, my T V, T.

I i've done tons of T V. I mean, so yeah, got friends all over who were and we had great debates. But it's the way you should be like we debate, we like each other. We end, you know and then I can certainly look at trump and call them like that doesn't make sense or that's not how a few you or that's not I would say that's idea. That's uncounted what I really.

So in this year, I was staying out of, but I I really was that because of the book, because I when I wrote this book and I said, I don't want to get pulled IT. I want this message to come out, you know, I want the mess of the goal. And I don't wanted to get gummed up with and understand, you know, because I was in, but I was the first speaker in the two thousand sixteen commission.

I was the first. You were.

you don't remember? No, that powerful. okay. Well, tiger.

where were you? I think I was just in a cloud .

of euphoria to, I was bigger. And now you remember sixteen, when I went out there, they were at, look, we don't know how this is gonna member, because they were fighting. They don't know, walk off. Oh yeah. So they were like, good luck because I was the first out, like I was the first, the state and down to or court, he said, wk and I I was gathering my breath to say no because I was just going to be like, because my mom that I was like forty five years I was like, I have five politics, you know and i'm going and I say, I say, let me check my schedule. Let me check my schedule OK check your schedule.

Get back with you so like the next day someone calls some ladies, hey ah so we've got you scheduled to the first speaker and i'm fixing to tell her like, oh, I didn't I didn't say yes and SHE goes, you're the first one up. You go for three minutes and I went three minutes. That's a commercial boy, yes, of course.

How do three minutes you know? And I was, yes, I was the first speak in sixteen. Would you say I cannot remember? I was not. I was like, I was really.

did you think he was gona win that year? I did. Did you think he was going to win this year?

I did. Why what I thought had a grilled? I mean, I was a little I called IT at eight thirty three central time that night when I saw Virginia, he was closed like it's so you mean that I wasn't sure about north and there was only state of that confuses me sometimes but Virginia, I mean I think is winning like, you know yeah like early on I was like, oh and I I told my fan and I text in my father and problem lies it's over um but yeah I had a good I had a good about IT.

Um they just felt like I did in sixteen. I felt like I was just kind of look at the culture and look at what people say that there's got a lot of people that you know because I was in IT wasn't as weird as IT was before like that was kind of cool, was like you weren't australia as much made six days and there was there was people did not like him in twenty, oh my god, SHE. Which that cover them in the whole cover.

And I said that year probed over that year. So I asked me who I thought going itself. The trumps got this.

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Did anyone in did you know in lousianner have questions about that election? 戳 你。

戳 你我。 So that question, but I understand what IT is like. I was like i've listened to people over time.

There's tones of people who question that stuff. always. They are you know like a you know they question like was IT done right?

Was that you know I mean, I didn't realize that was a crime to question just to make sure that everything that is that same strange no, maybe IT was that, but he was strange. Yeah yeah. Now I think the people lose and are all no yeah.

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they had to tell you the number of they needed. So what's the new show?

Yeah, we have, we are getting back in the production. Um it's come like the next generation of duck nasty. So my kids are older. Well, two thousand seventeen, two thousand twenty four yeah lots happen. The cast has grown up and then everybody else is still around and so yes so uh back with A N A we met and um they said I can can read on the show fall like time was right maybe the family pride about was like, I think so the kids were excited to the show know we allowed talker what you know we talk about the long show.

It's like target whatever you know I made a lot but man, when you talk to people and they tell you like how much that MIT to them and how much I can't tell you how many people, just like IT was what my dad now works together. Yeah, my mom passed away. Was like the the only thing that we could laugh that together.

And we watched as a family and I have like twenty five year olds even here means kids are like when I was eight day, watch every show you had, just watching the party, just watching our family. Be positive with our you know, the roles were correct and IT wasn't a lot of just ark ness and step that people watch and IT wasn't just a train red. And so ah it's really inspiring.

You like, man, know it's good to make something. Especially when I came out originally, there was a very much a little bright light among gs. A lot of some dark stuff out there is some dark TV. So so I think when you can do that, you can provide that for people.

There's no pressure all from your corporate masters to change anything or make IT.

Now I am actually, I mean, to be answer, I feel feel stronger now then I would then because they know who we are, you know, yeah I mean, they know we're all about not like, I mean, back then they didn't know they were like, I think they were religious, I think, you know yeah but now obviously over the past, will corps in the two thousand, you know, last twelve years, you know what we stand? You know what? What are morals? are? You know what's important to us? And and we have a lot of followers.

And like a and million people know, my kids are so a lot of people are interested that it's they're interest in um I think they want to be entertain, but they also no I think the'd learn stuff. I think they can watch and learn. And you know a lot of people that are their show or like, well, we never played like we never played before a meal, we didn't even know, you know, and we started try that, you know, try more often than not, even the pram they rarely ever set down, and even eight together more. That's a gone.

It's the saddest thing.

We never even, we never even have dinner. Everybody just grab and go you at the deal, go the ball park. And so this whole idea of just sitting down and just spend in time with each other dinner was so becoming a foreign concept.

And so I think people can learn and they can be like, oh, that, you know, uh, maybe they can they don't have the family we do. Maybe they don't have. Maybe everybody I doesn't live there like that.

They can kind of do that and can you know start their own, you know, traditions are doing something more as a family, real. The import seven. And then also just taking a break.

And not what I love about nit was we didn't take ourselves too seriously. We had fun. We laughed.

Oh, oh, I mean, do we need that? I mean, need, you need. So I think if you .

had written this book ten years ago, would have seemed pretty weird. You know, was the reality T, V show reading a book about spread the gospel, right? Does not seem wear now do you think the country is changed?

Um I think it's changing. I think it's I think it's certainly changing. I think people are looking for me. So I wrote the book, I think so I think we get so lethargic and and some of this was even like even in churches, they get they can get lots gic, and they get off.

Do you know you to know what your goal is, kind of what you're here for, and what your mission, you, what you made your life? Well, I take my mission from Matthew twenty eight, which is the label is the great commission. And jesus says, go out, make disciples of our nations babb. As people teach people three things, three specific ideas make ciphers bad test. People teach people so those are the last thing he said for we left, like make sure you do this.

So when that your mission um you think about what you got to do to accomplish three things probable to have conversations of people yeah if you're to make, if you bach, you're gona have to have some sort conversation and so what I find is people, if your mission in life is as a as a Christian, if you're like, well, I try to go to church as often as I can. I try to be good person. Nothing in of itself wrong with that has not a mission.

And what happens is the mission, because this comes a little self I go to share so I can listen, so I can learn, so I can try a week, you know, and everything becomes in where those three saying, jesus said were outward. It's out, out, out. Other, other, other people, not just you, it's other people.

And again, back to my father, who was sitting in a bar. The guy was there. He's not gonna remember of his church. He doesn't have any money. Piece of raper bay, you know, who's got a terrible reputation.

What drove him to drive up there? That hour drive, walk into that bar? What drove him to do that? IT was just for him, just for that.

Oh yeah. And I thought, I thought, wow, I don't know if I would, would I drop? But, you know, but he did that IT literally changed my life.

IT changed my whole families later. And that would have been here. I'm not a big prosperity I like.

And look, god is matter if IT just changed our life and kept our family together worth IT. I know somewhere worth IT. I got to see my dad and grow up with two pants worth that, you know.

And you look over time as then dad took that and then never want about this for money or family. In fact, really pushed that away, more than embraced IT even when I told you the show. And it's like, no, you know and that there was a different to with us, like wedding goes, an email was sent to us, a company came to us, the network came to us.

We weren't trying to go become famous, right? And so you see a lot to dead, you know, people like i'll do whatever how to get famous, you know. And so there's no authenticity.

There's like we want to do this. fine. I'll do you. I'll be famous, yes, and i'll do.

You know, why would you want to be famous?

Why would who anyone?

Oh, I don't know.

This seems like a lot of IT. I mean, from people who want to be family.

What do you think of IT? You are famous what you think?

Ah IT has its good parts about IT.

What are those .

the people i've been able to meet? Yeah I wouldn't know you if I wasn't. Yeah what you want this? I not .

have TV show elector a next.

But SHE thought us .

our homework.

I did you you put money in my coffee AR with the filter and I did. I spent in my club and you said, he looked them and you said, did you spend your first what you said me? You did you just spend that?

He said, an elevator, or as a potential friend of mine, that's how I feel about .

and you started doing your little micro lab and you start, law is so hard, and that was so much because of all the people have expect them to see.

That was a child. I didn't expect catch really rivers and deep an elevator but that .

and I was headed to my room i'd been promoting this book and um and you happen to be there as well, which is how this all in and I think god, you know, I do not think god works like that. I think he puts people together.

And you know, this seems to wear to me not so I think there's those opportunities that people have they made in some you take advances, some you know some you miss something like crap, you know and but I just I know, I mean, why he did that in the bible, you know yeah there was there things moving around and so um so could be for that person, could be for someone else, could be for something completely different yeah some situation that maybe needs to to get out. And so but I was interesting that I had read this book. I had decided this year i'm not jumping in this but even though so tempting, I tried to .

get me yeah go.

you know and and i'd really just said, no, not and i'm i'm just gonna promote this book and then and then I met you and then you said, hey, you should come on the podcast and that was scheduled for a few months ago I went i'm gonna get pulled into the sounds like as that i'm gonna pulled into this thing and um and then as IT turned rail and spin around we still their pocket after the election and then yeah and that was kind of that could be a man just don't get so in box I didn't want to mess I don't unocal I I really don't care IT like if it's the gospel or some political enda, i'm going with the gospel.

We down because this is the power. This is know if we can change people's no, I just saw you may change me, but I like some, I like my father can change people's lives and turn them into completely different people. And so that's what I want to get to people. You know.

politics turns people to completely different people too, but really for the Better.

right? I mean, IT has its place, you know, and and i'm not. Casting aspersions on people who you know want our country to be, you know a great country in the, but where you know， i'm not even one that is we have, we have to everything's GTA be like you have to Christians in every position.

I mean, I mean, now that's OK. I mean, we can work together and figure that out. Let the cost .

do IT IT does, and let politics .

do what IT does, and let .

what do you .

get that? Because unless the thing had back to mission, some in to that mission like disables badd as people teach people not you know I think if jesus wanted to just make sure your government is he went talk about IT right when he said, yeah, this law, a plan and all that because IT was near under these governmental things that he was going to end up being increased of that anyway.

So and those things of the world, I mean, there, you know, they are here and they come and they done, they go away and they change and, you know, stuff happens. And, you know, I was like, if we if that's where we end up, and I do think there's a lot of darkness for sure, but they need a gospel. They don't need up a Better program.

And dc, you know, and that's little change. IT, oh, oh, look, now families are staying together and not gonna. It's not going to be that way and it's gonna when the church wakes up and decides to go out and have that kind of mission know is to go after.

But we can hate each other. That's the prom. We can hate each other because that's the day. And I can't uh and I saw that so much in this. Got right. I mean, people get my face if I said that won't like if I said I i'm not i'm run this book and i'm not do as much with paper just built at work. This country is we're not going to have a country tomorrow.

But what I don't like about that is this like muffled like like they're telling me is muffat i'm like that you know and that's we got to there was just and everyone and everybody me certainly saw that with you know the democrat been bullying or do you Better vote this what you know like like we're telling you what to do. I'm not good at people tell me what, tell me what do don't tell me both now you to do more know what you know and do all they must understand their their passion, all that. But we've got to let people and some of that the point their job is to win the vote. You know.

that doesn't answer the deepest questions like what happens when you die, right? Doesn't address that.

So when you die, when you die, you do.

So my last questions, if I do think a lot of people are all the sudden wondering like this, or something beyond what we can see here feels in taste, I mean, is there, you know, is their spiritual realm, is their god. And I I people all around me are asking those questions. What would you recommend to them? Like how to pursue that use something sters. And you think, oh, maybe I should .

learn more, right? How may I found those answers in the 呃， in the bible, and particularly in the new text? Ment, you know, that's where I found those answers that comes down to the faith, like you've got to have this faith in.

You're gonna have to jump and believe something that you can see since ing how people can do that. And I was hung to a garon time. I was seven, one, three, seven, seven of these stories in the book, but there's lot in there perhaps this stories I don't believe in faiths.

I don't see, I don't believe IT, you know and he was he just got to mary said, we're at the, we're at the hunt camp I said, where is your wife and he's like, she's at home and he is I said, that is with another guy and he said, I love how you yeah and he said, no, she's not and if I can take mad well, yeah been married like six months I said, oh, now for sure she's she's with another guy like no doubt and he goes, no, she's not know what you don't ask and how do you know she's not because I trusted and I said, so you do have faith in something that you can see and he went, i've never thought about that way, was eight and that so IT was just a small move though we moved him out for that position. Now we have moved him to. There are some things that even I can see that I have faith.

And why do more preachers not start with that? I bet your wave sleeting with somebody else. That work.

maybe they'll got off hunting camps here I me for me though, what what else I mean like is and that was to say, okay, good look with that. Let me know how that works for you you know I mean, i'm trying to think of paul says in the new test, paul knew the gospel Better by who's a right he says, pray for me that the mystery of the gospel l can come out of my mouth more clearly.

He's pray, and that IT can come out more clearly in my Chris is wa he he knows this stud like he wrote IT know he's writing because someone not beat someone giving is good. So you have to keep coming out like keep asking more question, keep maybe i'm not asking questions that there's a story in book I just kept I kept trying to he had problems with this brain like he had reasons I was that I was like he's gona done. I don't think he's a Christian.

I don't think he's blaming on just like we thought about he would say the same thing, attempt to me really where he who had not seen cast the first stone that's what he would say was he was quoting a scripture and I knew with that man that's that's red net for I don't want to hear what you can say like, yeah, i'm not asked and I was like so I could have thought, well, member, I told you four times and every time he just revert wall and so finally, we're in a car where new york city work on a business deal with my money for time. My money is really smoke at this like that makes so much money. I was just like, just like he was so excited about, you know, look, and as as how as a, how do you and he said, and fifty eight years old and I said, I bet you're going to be dead in fourteen years.

IT looks like. He does what I said, I bet you can be dead in for ten years. Why would you say that? Not the way you live, you know, I say but I mean, i'm just guessing, but I said, have you ever thought about that? Like what's going to happen then? What happens then? I said, we just did investment that what you are you anything beyond? He goes, i've never thought about that for.

You know what he didn't say he who had not seen cast the first. No, we got pass, only got past that. And I was like, if we get past that and so we get to the, we get to the hotel, man.

And he goes, can you come up and tell me more about that? Yeah so I got my room. Get my body about his room.

Now sit down. And that's the I got like seven verses it's and I just start reading them too. He stands up in the man like terra.

And yes, his wife is not back because I can back us and I was like his midnight where I got central pilot, where I go found some water here, you know, and what was ready as I found some, and I said, well, with glass cope, I guess how in new york city I say, we will go. First one, say, no, I got to everyone, got to everybody know that what's fish happened. This is the same gap and working on for years and he's life hey, no.

And now he's said and and he emailed everybody, he knows everybody. So finally, like a moth layer, showed his house, the big house. There's people, every people from new york people, ali floor people.

I ve shown up because he said i'm get bad, has come watch this so I get there. How well come up because I guys is really tell what you tell me that hotel in that night. That's a yeah no problems up.

Go through that. So his wife is Better. Daughter is Better. He is bad, as is anybody else. They just start stream and blue jeans, taking their boots just totally over and over and over, just like what's happened in the buy.

You see that the book of bags, like twenty five people that night over that that one, that conversation. But I then stop that conversation when you don't here, you just do you keep on. And plus, i'm still there.

Sometimes IT takes twenty years. Sometimes that takes two hours, sometimes that take twenty years. Because I would give up on anybody because they didn't give up on that.

I would have given up on full a long time. We got to see, forget go to jail, you know, but that do didn't give up. His sister didn't give up on the gown up there and talk to him.

And IT changed my whole life. And so I never give up on about you never know you never know when that time me is they're like, oh, no, they're ready and they're like, so we're just really planning the seas. I'm just planning the seas because i'm ready.

I want to you know make disables on about sp. I want teach people us one of, so everything I look at in life, where does IT fall in that category? This book does the TV show, does the stuff of my kids do the family study? All of IT can faulty there.

And that's where I want its way more than go to have some little can be a Chris way or that that's like an hour week. Nothing I like you about this, you take your hour, don't go to church, I want you for the other six days will change the world, you know. But people have got a meeting.

They're get a they're got a bad idea that they're thinking. They're just like you show up an hour. I mean, try that your marriage, try that with your kid, try to see him an hour.

You see if that git enough to get through. And so just a bigger idea to be your concept. And then when you're in that moment, when you're there with people, when you watch their lives change, then you watch the fruit of that come out of IT.

It's a good it's like a ham and years like that's what it's all about. You know, that's the kind of stuff to where you then go on. There is hope.

And so I live my alive based on one. There's hope in something beyond. If it's not, it's not. I've hopefull lived a great life. I've great friends.

I've, you know the my my faith principles of the bob is bike kept me out of a lot of misery and hell, you know, bad stuff. And but i'm thinking that the realms I see evidence everywhere. I see evidence everywhere.

You know, like what I mean, I just I can see IT in people's laws. I know if jesus lives in us, so the holy spirit lives in us. I can see that in that laws.

I can, I can see this. I can see people doing this in life. What would you do that now? There's no IT, then it's just not financial. See share and do things and sacrifice.

And I see them for each other yeah for each other, for other people and for, you know, I can see that I can I can feel IT like I can attempt fails up to I feel you know like IT just seems like i'm like, well, this a lot of I can help the think something was going on a trip like there is a lot of weird yeah and your head the right do this. We were shaking her today. yeah.

How close is that? 这 很 说 很 what today would look like you know i'm saying like who know so it's just you know i'm not i'm just say look like god was doing something that I I don't but that's the faith part。 I think sometimes talk a way out.

I think we think our goal is to try to figure that out. No, I good. Like we have to know. We ve got to read the sound and we got, I was going to know, like, what's gonna happen? Even our country.

Like where will we be in? Like we want to know, but the me factors like but impossible, you can forget that you can live. I can always look back and that makes sense on, oh wow, that makes sense.

But looking forward, that's the and if and that's the message that i'm going to. But somebody he's been shared this message for two thousand years. We're halfway around the globe from where IT happened and still talking about IT.

true. They had no money. They had no fail. They weren't soldiers and weren't, you know, they didn't speak the same language. We're speaking a different language. We are sitting here today half way across the globe and we're still talking about IT.

I'm still like writing books about IT, living our lives on IT and professing IT IT just that's a big deal like I haven't seen that with anything else most everything else two thousand years ago. We don't even know what IT is. They're gone. It's just gone. We are other names. No.

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