Megyn Kelly: Taylor Swift’s Extremist Transgender Ideology, Debate Reaction, & Cable News Collapse
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I am genuinely honored to introduce Megan Kelly, who I can talk for like an hour about. Actually, esse, I know Megan Kelly really well, and I would just say a couple things about Megan Kelly. Megan ly is he was at the company that we once worked for.

I was a TV company based in new york city on sixth avenue, and I got there after being fired from a couple of different jobs. And and so I was like, totally powerless and disGrace. I've had any firings, but I was in the middle in between firing at the time.

And Megan Kelly was the was the dominant person, or because he was the most talented person in the building, just like pure talent and making Kelly for reasons that i've never even asked, I don't know the answer when out of her way. To help me like to such an extent, I didn't even really know Megan Kelly, but Megan Kelly went out of her way and I mean, out of her way, like at rest of herself, like in substance, you know, I don't know that guy is kind of a bopha. No, he's good.

You should promote him. And I don't I again, I don't know why he did that, but I don't know why, actually, because man kelis actually a really decent person. And if you're, which I shouldn't even have to say, but if you're a lawyer on TV, which he is like, you would not want to be cross examined by making Kelly at all, that would be a nightmare you would lose actually probably get the death penalty for whatever the offence.

I'm just late to my electrical bill just and quitting. You know, she's tough. It's really striking to see they truly Graceful and gracious person SHE is and i've just live that first time. She's also just the smart st in the cool. So with that, ladies gentlemen, Megan killed.

This is cool. Wow, this is so beautiful. Thank you. thank.

You say one of the thing i'm making Kelly, before I let making Kelly talk, i'm not going to say much. If so, if you spend your life in this studio, it's just so interesting.

You have told control over everything and most people who duck us to do that really don't like live events, and ninety nine percent infect the most town of people, you know, on television, in the radio, do not like to be in large room full of people because that they're uncomfortable around people. Megan is the exception to that. And I think IT just shows for wealth of people. And I just really noticed that today.

Can you believe he didn't know why I kept telling them? Talker's good. Trust me. He's the only one who doesn't understand that. He was obvious to anyone with eyes and ears what a star he was, whether IT was weekend fox and friends or in the prime time of fox.

always been believe that was not obvious. Everyone, I will say that, including so my relatives.

but thank you so much.

was so okay. So I went lunch today. We land where telza this morning, land here, land within thirty minutes at a barbecue place, behaving like an animal over eating all kinds of stuff on my shirt.

I really disGrace myself. This means I was disgusting. I have to get control. Couple came out to me and there's like, oh, we just came from dallas because we heard back and I ever were going to Alice is like, but we came to see me I don't get go and they're like, you have to ask Megan about Taylor swift and no, this happened to me, I know and i'm only dim aware of a tailor's wift is because I don't have a TV OK so I go on the international much and then I come here was like, you can ask about .

Taylors wift .

i've had thought so instance your question. Why are people telling me to ask you that and do you think Taylor swift, who apparently endorsed ed criminal harms the other day, will have, I know, oh, I know i'm not going to endorse sales with, trust me, will this have an effect? What's the significance of this?

I don't know whether we will have an effect. I mean, supposedly some three hundred and fifty thousand people have rushed some website to register to vote to express interest in potentially doing that. But Young people don't generally vote.

And I don't think people who at this point in the election cycle had not registered to vote are not going to do IT because of Taylor swift. But let's set that to to decide. Screw you, Taylor swift.

That's how I would like to begin. This woman has got how she's a billionaire. I saw her amazing mansion in road island.

I went to some hotel there. And if there IT is up on a Cliff, you've never seen a more beautiful home. It's one of watch twenty. She's got so many gifts, thanks to all of you, thanks to your daughters, who you probably had to drag to her concerts, and you want to make your daughter happy. So you did not true whether you are republican, democrat.

And how does he think this nation SHE turns around? Not only does SHE pick aside in a holy contest of presidential election alienating at least half for fan base, but he says the reason she's voting for coming heroes it's because of tim walls as L, G, B, T, Q, stds. Do you know what tim walls has done on the L G B T Q front? Tim, let me, let me tell you what's going to happen.

Okay, what? Here's what's going to happen. A A little girl sitting in wisconsin who's maybe on this spectrum, maybe has acne, maybe a little heavy set, maybe feels upset as a parents are going to divorce something like that is going to find herself down a rabid hole on redit and her parents aren't going to know because you're going to divorce and they are not focused on her right now.

And she's going to spend hour after hour on that thing. And redis onna tell her she's actually a boy and she's going to get sucked into this gender cult and she's gonna mom and dad. I want puberty blockers across sex hormones, which will sterilize her and deprive for her of all sexual pleasure for the rest of her life.

And they're going to say, no, you're a girl and she's going to say, but I I want top surgery this been anything this double mistake me where i'll have tubes coming out of me and i'll never breast feed a child. I want that too. I'm a boy and they're going to say, no and she's gonna go to a judge in minnesota.

And because of tim walls, the court will take custody of her, use the medicate funds and minnesota to provide her all of those things, chop off her breasts, sterilized her with the puberty blockers under across sex hormones. And when this girl inevitably comes to the conclusion that he didn't want any of this, that had only added to her problems, which were the divorce and the acne e in the puberty, and not any trans issue, who is SHE gonna to them. This is all because of tim walls.

That's what minnesota is doing right now, a little girls and boys of taking custody away from the parents so that they can have these procedures without any loving parents there to help. And that's what Taylor swift just endorsed for your children. So screw you, Taylor swift.

That is. First of all, thank you for saying net and part of my ignorance, this is one of those topics. It's so upsetting to me. I have too many of children. I think they can take custody.

Yes, there's a law of tim all sign that says the court can take jurisdiction, which in this instance means custody over minor children who are not getting the gender affirming care, which is a lie. There's only two sexes gender bullshit. There's men and those women, one cannot become the other.

And he signed a lot saying that bacon take jurisdiction over a minor children who are not being affirmed by their children and get all of those procedures done outside of any connection. Your parents will have nothing to do with that. They went, have access to you.

That's so dark. Yes, I have to say I look at you are describing how rich Taylor swift is. Why isn't SHE happy?

Good question. I mean, listen, there's what is he like? Thirty two? I don't know what SHE SHE. She's Young. She's never had a relationship that work he makes a lot of money about off of writing about IT um that could be part of the problem.

Like for the reasons you were just discussing, when you find true love, when you have somebody who loves you unconditionally, you know warts and all, that everything. And SHE hasn't been able to find IT. She's made a lot of money off of IT.

And I think SHE change from city to city without the grounding that you have, that I have, that hofus ly all of you have. And maybe he is feeling untethered, maybe she's feeling empty and lost and maybe he wants other people to make the similar decisions in life as he has because people feel validated when you do that. And I think that's why she's miss leading these kids. SHE doesn't have the core that that you should have before you ever advise somebody on electro al politics.

I had totally agree. I completely agree.

So it's a very dark day and I feel like cheep betrayed all the moms and dads who who took their little girls there and Fostered a relationship of random, not knowing that he would then turn around and try to trans your kid or bless the man who's doing IT, whether he's the minnesota governor or, god forbid, device president.

But you just made such a deep point almost off handedly as you do, almost parenthetically. But the SHE doesn't have the grounding to be advising on a question like this. Like would you buy realistic from a almost person or you take investment advice from burney made off? Like why would I ever take an important piece of life advice from someone whose life is a disaster, right?

If he wants to tell me how to sing the song, I mean, okay, I guess i'll listen to that. But you know, I think I was a comedian, andre shill, who said we just be so much Better off if people just do the thing there's closed to do, right? If the actor would just act and the singer was just singing and the basketball player would just play basketball, I don't want her life advice on anything. But what's so pernicious ous about this is that we've inadvertently, thankfully not you're truly, but most, most parents with tween girls have inadvertently Foster a relationship between his person and their daughters and allowed her to become a role model to them. And now he takes advantage of that by looking at these Young girls saying, vote Harris walls because you can get an abortion at any age and at any term under them, because you can turn into a boy under them because, unlike what they said at the debate, you can try to abort your baby that could be born on the table, and we can just let that sit there without any medical care under hair as well. That is the thing, not we're standing the fake fact check by abc news, he said IT.

it's it's hard to see though Taylor swift and isolation. I'm just guessing here. But if she's really in early third s and she's made a billion dollars in the music business, I don't have a ton of her albums myself. I can't even assess your music, but she's the productive of system and she's got to someone distinct be acting on behalf of that. The american and entertainment system, which is something to a propaganda system like this, is an indication of a whole industry .

kind of I mean, the part the problem with big movies and big you rock and roll or records or pop, is a lot of people who are drawn to those industries are empty inside to begin with. And we saw a flash of this in a brilliant moment at the this here, where, to his credit, Robert down, his unior, got up there and he won for best actor, I think, or supporting one of the other for open hyper.

And the very first thing he said was, i'd like to thank my terrible childhood, right? And some people are self aware, and they get through that, and the vast majority are not and do not. And so they go to these industries like becoming a pop singer or becoming an a hollywood actor, because they're seeking fame and to fill avoid.

And they think that these artifacts are going to do IT. You know, if I can just become rich, if the people will just love me, if people will give me a golden statue, somehow I will feel validated like I matter, like none of the bad stuff that happened to me is consequential. And what they inevitably find is IT feels no voice.

IT only adds to their problems. All the emptiness is still there. This is what happened to Matthew Perry, among many, many others.

And I think you I don't want to psycho analyze Taylor swift, but I don't think this level of fame is healthy for anyone. We've started to make her some sort of an idle, and that's sick on our part. I tried to counter program this with my kids all the time.

She's a singer. SHE thinks some good dogs. That's IT. That's IT. She's not someone to look up to and and let this be a lesson as all that we don't Foster that kind of a relationship with a stranger who's chosen to go into one of these very damaging industries because then they've got your kid in the palm of their hand and they can use that power .

for evil that is so wise. Everything you've said is really wise, and I wonder why. I mean, you've just said directly, by implication, more about what IT takes to become fulfilled, what a full life actually looks like. And i've heard from any leader in our country, like maybe ever. So why does no one ever get honest with people know when the position of authority, or with a big audience about what IT actually looks like .

to live a happy, fulfilled life? Wait, because so we could have added politicians into our list, people who go to hollywood and the people who go the rock and roll industry to become famous just as easily. I mean, this is one of the problems with their politicians today.

I was talking to the guys from the all, in part because you know them, and they were saying, you name of politician. You like, how was like you're gonna to play the jeopardy? Y sounds, I know, you know, it's really hard to think about somebody.

Yes, there are some, but you got a really think about IT because we've created this congressional system that produces cda. Ian, it's people who want to become famous. Look at aoc.

SHE wants want to govern. SHE was to be famous. That's what he wants. She's an instagram all the time. Looking at herself was just the vainikolo APP.

It's just the vanities of the apps because SHE wants you to be looking at her. Half of them were posting pictures of their bottoms. Who wants to look at anyone's ask anyway that there?

Please don't answer that.

They're using IT as a springboard for attention. They don't actually want to govern, know they want a parade in the money and use all their followers and feel like they matter with their woke ideologies. It's mostly on the left.

There's some other right. So that's why we have no one we can look up to. There's no one in politics you should look up there. We really need to look outside of IT for our leaders.

What's interest that you don't have to answer this question if you don't want, but just giving them the pretty amazing trajectory of your own life. You're a lawyer in dc, like an actual lawyer, not a TV lawyer. Then you become the most famous person.

And television, I mean, that actually happened to you. You became incredibly famous. I don't think you set out to be your a lawyer. Did that experience shape the views that you .

just articulated? Yes, because I never was attracted to fame. If anything, that was a downside of becoming more popular in what we do.

It's it's a blessing in some ways, right? Because people follow you and they show up and this is this is a blessing. But the downside is you lose your anonymity, you lose your privacy, and it's just another false idle.

And you really can't fall into that because otherwise you become an ugly person, you you truly become an unattractive person. And so as I became more well known, doug inie started to get invited to more fancy things, especially after that debate with trump. The left loved me.

Remember that. And they started inviting me to all these fancy parties. And I was like, I I know me. I sure.

I guess i'll go to this huge hollywood party and meet all these old stars and see what that's like. I'll tell you what I was like, torture. IT was torture.

I felt around them the same. You guys would feel around them. I don't know what to say to them. I had absolutely nothing in common with them. IT seemed like a bunch of rapid, empty people who only wanted to speak a peak around me.

Who else was there or over there in the mirror? And there was absolutely nothing of consequence to discuss with anyone there. They're obsessed with their latest movie or what role they might get nominated for.

All I could think was, where's the account? Who planned this thing? Who will talk to me like a real person? So I didn't enjoy IT.

I recognize that IT was false, know that IT wasn't real. And I was always very glad that I had duck with me for these events because he's very grounded, very Normal. And I would say one of the bigger blessings that sort of that period of my life ending was getting away from those people.

So you didn't feel just interesting because a lot of people who you know go through different parties in their lives like they are always hoping .

to get back to the Oscar party. No, I mean, I went, this is another one. I went to the meat gala and a winter. Or, I mean, you could freeze ze on her eyes SHE. So I went SHE had me meet with her at her tower downtown before this event and IT was, he thinks she's ahead of state.

This woman, I mean, i'm walking down the hallway to go into her sweet and you've got like ten guys with a Janet jasper and headset like and she's we're walking or ten feet were five like no one wants to kill in a winter so just might stop and you get in there and she's of course eating like two peas because he has absolutely no you know a lot to have any body fat and fashion. And then SHE starts lecturing me about politics, trying to figure out with her improve life, trying to figure out with our approach, like what what businesses of yours. Anyway, IT was painful, and the mcgill a was downright painful on all these celebrities who are all over the Oscars and these academy awards and golden globes lecturing us on how to be Better.

People are in the lady's room snorting coke and dry humping one another, while their spouses are out there with my own eyes and my husband's all names, you would know, smoking in the met with, like some of our most precious words of art, are absolutely, totally disrespectful. And what I realized, these people are disgusting. And what I want to do is go home right now and talk to my neighbor, who's a fireman and lady across the street, who's a teacher, and the touch grass, and get back to actual people.

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No, no. I mean, there's a reason that that stay quiet for so long. And I there are a lot of people who are still quaking in their boots, scared to death about what may come out.

You know what? I said this on my show, and i'll say IT to you all too. It's not that jeff rey, abc es. alive. I want to clarify that, at least not to my knowledge, but you will be hearing from jeff rey estyn, I think in subway the next twelve month and I know the person who is going to bring IT to you. And i've heard the thing myself, this is not B S.

You'll see divulging the details that you can't divulge. And I should just say I never I didn't know what to think of that story and I became I got to know his brother pretty well and yeah and I I think he was murdered. That's my view.

Yeah I never thought I would think that, but I do think that. But how big is that story? Do you think the one that .

I I am talking about, well.

that i've seen story itself, I went, I mean.

I think it's got denticles everywhere. And I really do think that absolutely disgusting. Not just, I mean, Jeffery ever seen like Young girls, but he didn't like eight eos. But I think that there are multiple people in the hollywood industry in particular who do yes, you. Thank you.

And I think the same people who are behind some of the films that we see right now where this starts to get Normalized in away, where there's a lot of sort of messaging and these films you can avoid IT like more and more getting shut down your throat. They start with like gay romances in your face. All of a broadway like deep tongue kissing are right.

I love my gay friends, but that's a lot. And then next thing you know, every man, servants or woman in these productions, whether it's hollywood on the big stage, and it's not that you have to be a pedophile to be. You have is not the gay people and more likely to be pedophiles.

But if you see these guys were trying to change the messaging on pedophilia, they use our openness to people who happen to be L, G, B, T, Q as the window to get in, like we're just on that spectrum. That's just us, which is minor attracted people it's nothing worry about like it's just another fetish that's all IT is yeah well, I mean, it's dark. So I do think it's much more widespread than people understand. And I had corry feltman tell me that directly heated conversation I had within five .

years ago heated in what way he .

wanted people to talk about this. Yeah, know, he grew as a child actor. And you saw what happened with Nicholas on, you know, I had some of those kids on my show.

They grew up at this with Nicholas on who didn't have their kids watch niogo dian, did you have any idea with such a perfect with these people taking advantage of Young kids? And like pedophile, after pedophile and child pornography, IT was absolutely disgusting. What a place to send your child.

And the people running IT accused of pushing these disgusting messages into our kid's television programing. You look at what that I did to are on a grounded when he was a star and nicolovius completely sexualizes girl. And he was fifteen years old riding around on the bed like he was a porn star.

So I just think there are a lot of there are a lot of perverts out there who control a lot of our media, whether it's the small screen of the big screen, and this is all part of is in a way it's like grooming ing us getting a use to this kind of stuff. So when they take the next step, we're okay with that. And not imagine what's happening in our children's libraries at school, right?

So I keep reading IT. There's like a books burning campaign against great children's literature. Yeah no.

I mean, if great children's literature includes this stuff or in a lot of trouble, one of the most disgusting things i've seen all year as sixty minutes when they had on moms for liberty and Scott Kelly, who is a disgusting, dishonest broker, try to tell.

And i'm putting Scott pelly is a disgusting this on as broker.

correct? He's about his honesty his friend lesley stall, who said the laptop can be verified IT can't be verified. So he's got the moms for liberty goals there.

And he's trying to tell them that we are not seeing books in k through twelve education that talk about, forgive me, anal sex. They talk about the specifics of hetero sex that offer absolutely disgusting sex tips. Kids who are ten. And i've seen IT with my own eyes. You guys, i've seen enough of this out there with parents outrage as schoolboy meetings, raising hell over this to know scot pelly has his head up as rand is happening and his denial as hashtag part of the problem.

So I mean, you've spent now, I think, a couple decades in in or around the american news media. How was so when you first get into IT, contrast the opinions you had of IT then to the ones you have now, like, what are your conclusions?

Oh, well, I mean, so much just changed. I mean, when I got into news, IT was two thousand, three or four, and I was an unhappy lawyer like I I was done with the law. And I just wanted to try brocas erna ism, that I would be really fun, that I would use some of my skills.

So I don't care. I was like, I got my interview of fox, and I went in, and Roger else, this number two guy was like, everyone else to work for us. Now that we're number one, I was like, there are number one.

Holy should I am never going to get this job? Had no idea. I didn't care if that wasn't about ideology.

I know. So I didn't know much. I didn't know much about the news.

I wasn't political when I was a lawyer. You have no time to be anything other than a lawyer. You not talking about politics unless you're true. Dc layer like a love.

I was a litigated trying cases for big corporations, and so wasn't until I started getting no neck deep into IT that I realized how things worked. And thankfully, I did grow up the fox. So I never had the left wing and doctor nations ships on me.

And then in the past five to ten years, the ground has shifted under all of our feet, where I used to consider myself, you know, center right, moderate. And now if you you take one of those tests, what are you online? I'm a far right conservative, is what happens.

I actually think the term is dangerous. extremist. Yeah, i'm a dangerous.

yes. So I threat to democracy. Nice to see you here.

Well, well, I definitely have. That's interesting. So is that you've changed? I mean, you've seen a lot and I know or that the definitions changer.

let me i'll give you one example. I used to fall for believe in some of the woke nonsense that's being shut down our roads. Now when IT was just baby level.

Right now it's like grown into huge monster level. But I was one of the people on fox defending the whole transgender thing back in like twenty thirteen. And that's because, like most people, I wanted to be empathetic.

I didn't want to be nasty. I don't want to be bullying. And IT was a very small problem like that, which, so this seemed like an appropriate reaction to the same thing on the race stuff.

You know, I would get very upset when they would attack me for being alleged racist. One time there's a whole bunch of articles about me being in alledged races because I saw these gangs beats up a woman. And I said, these are dogs.

What a about your thugs. Cue a week of media stories about what a racist I was. I was rattled.

I was upset. I was, oh my god, I guess can use the word that. I mean, now I like their dogs, right? It's like IT takes a while.

yes. So I needed that dicker skin. And on the gender stuff, I mean, i've completely reversed myself and I see IT entirely differently. So just with some growth, and while they've got ten more pernicious ous and i've been paying attention, my world view on these issues has entirely changed well.

But I would also say that like a lot of people, I bet a lot of people in this room, you had your decency leverage against you, yeah, you know, you had the moral advantage with the political disadvantage. If really senseless, ly wanted to be a good person and not hurt t someone's feelings that, I mean, this is like the way that people who are trying to be good people think like, I don't want to hurt anyone else, I don't know. There are lot of hurting people. They don't want to make IT worse, like you really try to be decent and they take that instinct and they use IT against you.

yes. And then you learn there's no amount of subjugation that is okay for them. You must be on your knees forever. And I do think one of the reasons why can you just explain .

that a little more? That's very interesting.

There is no enough is enough ring kissing that you can do because even if you kiss the ring, I mean, let's go back to the trump thing so the left loved me after that trump debate and they thought that I was secretly know a trump hate that I I I was a wolf and sheep clothing um at fox news and I was going to take down the republican party.

All I wanted to do is ask a really hard debate question and I asked one of him and I asked one of everybody, just like I done in all the presidential debates that I moderated. So then they started to love me, right? They are like, all we love you, we love you.

And then I got a job offered nbc. And for all sorts of reasons, I laugh, because my time of fox was done for a number of reasons, some of which you may have read about the paper. And so I go at nbc and that one of the first things I said to them was just in case you're thinking, I am a secret liberal waiting to let my liberal flag fly.

I'm not i'm exactly who you saw me on the air as i'm somebody who's more center right in my political belief. But I tried to play a straight on the air. Fine, fine, fine.

Do you think that that was my experience when I went over there with those leftists? That was not my experience. But having said that, that experience was a gift to me, such a gift to me.

I learned so much and not just about, like, okay, I get fired. So I learned things. Although I technically wasn't fired, my show is cancelled.

But the rest remains a matter of contract mystery. yeah. But I learned this lesson.

I learnt this lesson. And i'll take you back to the whole black face controversy. Okay, if I may. So I the reason my show ended because we had a conversation on the air about black face alloweth costumes, and I was saying, know, when did IT become racist? Because and I grew up in the seventies, and I remember this was on TV, is on the movies that was unlike the Christmas dress, like i'd seen, IT wasn't clearly something that all the society was saying, don't do this, not talking about minerals, face black is, but talking about these hlophe costumes. And that's IT.

That's all I said. And that was the Carol.

didn't ross? By the way, nbc was earring like four shows within two years of that comment with people in black face. So, okay, i've never warn black face was just trying to have a conversation. But so but that's irrelevant. What i'm trying to say is I learned that these people are not sincere brokers.

They're not actually outrage over anything I said or joy bay heart would be fired over abc news because he put her black face pictures on the air and celebrated IT I could go down the list ted dancing, who was starting on nbc at that moment in a show about heaven and hell. He war mineral show black face would be golden t wrote the skin for heaven sheet, too, is a host on the view. Over at abc scrubs, a couple of people wore black face on the air, and they were put, we go over this.

And so for me, is very high opening, because at first my instincts were, I should go back out on the air and I should explain to people, no, no, no, don't be offended. I can show you all these examples of what i'm talking about. I'm not endorse ing.

And i'm saying, I noticed IT and IT change, and I realized, what are you doing? These are not people who are honestly mad at you for what you said. They're mad at the voice you've been bringing because you provided.

And watch my show at abc. Nobody did. But I was seeing conservative things. I was defending break cabinet to the hilt. I was merciful on these stupid game, rape accusers and all that bs. And I do think people were starting to require I attacked jane, fond up brutally on the air and twenty minute monolog. And so what they wanted was my ruination, and you cannot bargain with us.

So no amount of on the nee apologies, playing their game, trying to get along or just be a nice person who tried to look inside and say, what did I do i'm willing to self examine, would advance the ball at all. And then you finally, if you go through something that graduate to the point of not giving a damn, what they say about you and IT is liberating. This is something he knows nothing about.

I could not say, having spent, you know, many, many, many years in television, i've never seen cruel or more deceptive behavior or anyone than what they did you at nbc. And I used to work there, and I know that their loads, so I didn't realize they were that loser. But IT sounds like you're saying it's worth the suffering to arrive at that point of liberation.

yes. So that's in the personal and professional lane that that word liberation. But I also needed the growth.

I needed the life lessons, and this is one of the reasons why I do believe in cancel culture. I believe in my being cancel, and I believe in you being cancelled. I enjoyed IT.

Yep, you know, because ultimately, IT separates you from a company that you did not belong IT. For whatever reason, the value systems are different. And once you get through the trauma, when you're going through trauma, you're not thinking about the life lessons.

But if you're an tropic tive person, then hopefully at some point you sit back and you reflect on what does that mean for me? What did I learn from IT? And I could say the same thing about, you know, fox in my last couple of years there, and that that's something you should be thankful for.

I've grown as a person. I've developed muscles I didn't have. I can handle additional chAllenges in a way I never could IT before. I've gotten closer to who I really am, and it's forced me to examine my own values in a way few events will. All of that is a gift.

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I've never learned a single thing sitting on the beat rober vacation that's ever that's right. Eating french joseon bet is not grown me as a person that i've enjoyed IT. okay. So I just have to ask you since I do think you're the best legal analyst i've ever watched.

just game out. Not every stupid.

He's Better resume calls, but. What a filthy and not just because they just a filthy person in every way.

But it's hard.

It's really. amazing. So let's just say the trump is at least time I think up in in the electoral account as if that's my belief based on the numbers that all this morning, let's say that you have none of us knows what's going, but let's just say that holds.

And he wins the election first tuesday in november, which I personally think, and terrible IT predictions are always wrong. But if I had to add money on IT, I would bet that happens. What happens then legally.

with a long fair? yes. Well, first, why I know you going to talk to charlie kirk, and you should definitely asking him about the ground game because there's a lot in his hands.

Thank god for charlie kirk. no. But honestly, this applies to all of you because the democrat get out.

The vote effort is second to none, and there cannot be any complacent. Y none. IT really is tight.

I think political had a headline the other day like knife fight in a phone booth. And IT is that tight? Um so everybody IT can be in charlies hands. IT can't be in trump's hands, especially anything resembling us or near a swing state.

But what happens if you winds is the january six litigation and the morocco litigation go away instantly because he'll been charged the dog and he'll pull those attack dogs. Jack Smith and his cohorts, all of those cases in their debt, they're debt, they're not that can be resurrected. So then we have georgia job, which is going to go away because Fanny will is a native way.

IT couldn't keep IT in their pants. So I think she's going to be disqualified on this appeal. The trial court judge did not disqualify him then, but he begged, if you read that opinion, he begged.

He said, oh, please, please, the stench of medicine fills my courtroom. And actual phrase from his opinion, not disqualifying. He's elected official.

She's very popular. It's landa region. So this a pallet core. All three of humor republican judges are going to disqualify her.

I'd be stunned if everyone so that case is going away, because not to be another prosecutor will take IT. And that leaves us with new york and our old friend of and bread. And I understand, yes, boo.

And you can you can keep IT rolling for all those sorrow. Prosecutors who don't want to prosecute any crime unless your name is Donald trump, alvin brag has gotten his conviction. They're going to have a sentencing at some point I right now set for after the election. And I think the worst case energy for trump now is jail time with a suspended sentence, meaning he won't have to serve IT until an appeal goes up. And I think there's no chance that this conviction is gna stand because the supreme court ruled in that immunity ruling.

You guys know about that, right? They said, not only can you not go after your present criminally for most physical facial acts, but in any case against them, you can introduce evidence of what he did well in the over office, while the alvin brag prosecution did a lot of that. What was hope pics doing understand if they weren't introducing evidence of what trump was doing while president and he was talking about time anyway, that prosecution has to go at the conviction has to go because the conviction was based, in large part an evidence the supreme court has said may not be admitted in any case, that's just one thing.

But even the jail time, no one not need. Donald p would get jail time for this. And as soon as that judge tries to make us a jail time case, he will appeal IT up to the first depite division.

And I just don't think IT, maybe it'll stand there. But once you get to uch in new york state court of appeals, those are still rational judges. Those are the judges who throughout the harvey wine scene, conviction they've got stones and they're not that afraid of politics.

They're not great. It's not like our supreme court and I think trumble prevail. So I don't think he spends one one day in jail and I certainly think there's a judged in the land who would put a sitting president or president like in jail.

Are there legal mechanisms that mark lies in the rest of the democratic lawyer army IT can use to stop the electricity certifying trump president?

If he wins, they're gonna try. I don't know exactly how they'll do IT. They may resurrect this. He committed an insurrection.

I mean, they've said that they're going to he committed an interaction and therefore he can be on the ballot that ultimately winds up with the U. S. Supreme court and they're gna kill IT.

So I mean, honestly, you know when you're feeling down about the state of our politics or our country, this is what I do. I go to bed at night. I get under my blanky, and I think about the supreme court. God, thank god you have .

lawyer dreams. I do.

I used to call chief justice john robberts, chief justice, my dreamy. Until obama care, you've got downgraded. I met him at an event when I was a play in new york at some embassy, and I saw him.

Was one of those things really like you're part of the play as the audience member, you can to stand there and you're having dinner with the cast members and they're acting. He was actually very cool. And I saw him after IT was over. I went up to him and I nice to meet you mr. Chief justice said, nice to meet you make and I said, i'm big fan, a big fan and he said, oh, you're the one and I said, oh, no, no, I admire you but palmer care was not a principal decision and dog is like, honey but IT wasn't.

what? What did he say? He .

laughed. He's a good guy. luck. He's he's got a different role in his mind on the court and the rest of the justices.

And know I agree with that part, but I don't say I don't agree with the way he's been ruling. But anyway, we've got a ledo. We've got Thomas, who seems great.

Like in good help, we ll see I had gorsuch ge on the show of the other day. And I love how anti regulation he is. Gossips hard.

Core anti regulation just came out with a big talking about how big the administrative data has gotten. I think he would like the heavier male point. He would like to cut all the the federal agencies down by a lot.

So I like ham, although he is responsible for boss dock. The one that said, there's A A Mandate to put trans people in in your workplace. You can exclude them based on the basis of being trans.

And that was a little sticker. anyway. We've got a strong supreme court right now. I've never seen a court like this in my lifetime or six three. And it's going to take a lot to an end IT on earth IT. Now if they win control of the senate and the White house and they win controls that by a lot, they could get rid of the Philips or, well, they don't have to us, but already theyve already got rid of IT for supreme justices, and they could expand the core potentially. And then we'd have to march on the streets and lessons, I mean, that civil war, banana republics, that we'd have to fight, not calling for violence, but saying this would require every street .

amErica to be the absolutely so do I mean, that is a stated goal. They said that repeatedly, dly, getting sixteen year old to vote, having millions of illegal lions vote and expanding the court, they're all set that out loud. Do you think they will try .

the last one packing IT to pack? The depends on what november looks like if they win, how big is .

the Victory?

It's razor tight. I don't think they're have the guts. I don't think so.

But if he goes in there thinking SHE has a man date as a terrifying thought, I could happen. IT could happen. This is not trumps locked up.

He doesn't have IT locked up yet. So people need to be really clear about what could be coming our way if he wins. And get to the polls, get your friends to the polls, get a bus and get everyone you know in swing states to the polls. And if he wins and think he has a Mandate and starts doing the things he said he would do, go look at A A C L. You could questioner, that too is credit Andrea since ki or at CNN on earth, and see what he wants to do about defunding ice and making the entire country a santi city SHE, said IT, using your tax pair dollars to fund six change Operations for prisoners and the illegal immigrants, the country will change dramatically, and we will have to do use every tool in our arsenal to fight IT that would indefinitely include lafave, you know, chAllenges with the current supreme court to stop.

they're going to try to do the way. How would you assess her record in office, say, a tourney generalist to california, which SHE SHE refers to that a lot my read is a non lawyer or non legal expert, is that SHE doesn't have limits in her behavior. SHE seems totally happy to prosecute people SHE doesn't like because .

he doesn't like them. She's your worst nightmare taker because he loves to go after the little guy like the drug users, people with these small, petty crimes. And that's what he did, trying to convince people SHE was tough on crime as a sympathy is good D.

A. And his california attorney general. And then as soon as he got on the national board, SHE abandoned all that, started bAiling out bl rioters.

IT started to go hard, core the other way, backing people like kim fox, sorrow prosecutor in chicago and so on, flipped all the way over the other way, and is truly the daughter of a marxist and has markus tendencies herself, and was as far left as you can find. I mean, she's the most leftist presidential kennet we have ever had. I think she's father to the .

left and bernie Sanders. I know what I read. I read that he was the source of all joy. Have you have you rather? Yeah.

yeah so yeah although you've got to rid of the joy since they had to kill the cco.

The cat means of my favorite .

is still a my god, it's amazing. It's amazing. Can you see the tiktok? then? They're killing cats and they're killing dogs. That that's a new, a new cat. They're eating the pets.

That's really that was the high point, american politics, I mean that too. So come here is as that i've not to go over what we just saw like in the last two months, but how exactly did they become the democratic nini without anyone voting for her? Is that how can that happen?

I've never seen somebody so good at fAiling upward, right? It's amazing. I know you're not allowed to talk about this, but SHE slept her way in the california politics.

It's true. I don't say IT to be mean, and I say that because it's true. SHE slept with Willy Brown, which is its own skill. I got to say, I mean, maybe he was found him, so he was so full of baggies. M, he was thirty years older than he was.

I said he had no talent. I mean, that was unfair.

And he paved her away. He paved her away in to california politics. He helped her get elected asseverance to go da.

And once you're in that system as a far left dam, you're good. Of course, you're going to become the senator from that state when the opportunity presents itself. Never mind the identity politics aspect of IT.

And before you knew IT, joe biden was run around promising people he to add a black woman to the ticket because James cliburn said, you're not onna win south CarOlina unless you do that so we did IT. Now she's fes president and then he falls apart after the big cover up. And nexon, you know, she's out there an empty vessel pretending she's the next obama.

Do you guys know that there was a report by mark alperin was very tired into these democrat circles that before the democratic national convention speech, he was prepped by C. A, A creative art agency. The biggest hollywood agency there is brian lord, who runs IT and top hollywood talent.

And how to deliver her lines, how to nail her speech. Now, what are the odds that SHE, when choose hold up for those five or six days preparing for the debate, didn't have held like that? That's what she's got.

If you're the republican candidate, you show up. You got both of the moderators and your opponent against you. You get interrupted in every answer.

You get fact checked, irony ously and every answer, you get the moderators opinion coming at you as a fact check. You get follow ups on everything. If you try to dodge or weave at all, they will nail you to the floor. But if you're come a Harris and you've said everything there is to say about fracking and then show up and they have always been it's thank you that impressive.

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So really like if you're a member, you will soon be able to get this to cover his never before seen footage from the aspinall attempt of the Butler township and of anion trump rally and a lot more, it's going to pull back to court completely. They are embedded inside the campaign. I can't wait to see you personally. But to get a first, got a tucket corals and dock com become a member. The greatest television event of the year were to offer.

So you've got one canada who shows up with the biggest, most powerful hollywood agency prepping with voice coaches. And the other candidate shows up a two cans of diet coke that doesn't seem like a symmetrical content of burger.

No, it's totally unfair. And to me, it's been so frustrating to watch people, republicans over the past forty eight hours say, well, let's wait, is you have to do Better just how IT is. Everybody knows the media is biased.

This is not the right attitude. What happened on that stage on tuesday night was a complete the release of duty by those moderators. They completely abandoned all journalistic integrity and principal, and it's deadly serious.

We're talking about a presidential election here. They actively inserted themselves to the point where you actually have to wonder whether they made a conscious decision at abc. This is the night we're going to do IT. We're just, we're just going to live the dress up and show them everything that we're not journalists, that we are partisan hacks.

You know, I always thought, judging by David mirrors ABS, that he was a great journalist. But I who is David mor anyway.

you he's manage to fly under the radar. Yeah, that's what want to put IT because he lets his programmer, his producers and his consent elections speak for his bias. No media research center to a study right before the debate IT dropped, showing that IT, I think IT was ninety two percent of their coverage on kalo was positive.

Ninety and and ninety three, ninety seven percent of their coverage on trouble was negative. And they said that abc was the worst of the three night news casts abc more fair than abc, cbs as well. So he got chosen to do the debate.

And when David miro was out there without the producers selecting the stories, all of which were left, and so you're left to say, okay, let's see you, David, here, who are you? And of course, we are ready to knew, because he has to say on content selection on the show, but he really let us freak flag fly and and what they did up there, I mean, just take the one moment which is really driving me and saying they asked trump about his comment that he lost by a whisker recently in a podcast, fair question is finally can ask and trump says, I was being sarcastic. He actually fact checked him with, I didn't detect any sarcasm.

What are are you like one of those emerging from the A O G movie that can detect that that archaic? No, that's a true deler. That was the most inappropriate thing i've ever seen.

And IT masted as a fact check. And IT, of course, trip trump up and just give you one of the thing is another moment of the debate. They ask common heroes about the fact that they did nothing about immigration until last six months.

Obviously, an election employ to make the numbers look Better. They turned to her first. He does her john win routine like, well, I was tough on that there. Order back when I was an ag. And now, sure, sure, jane, well.

he does have a gun, so I kind of get .

IT sure he does. So he gives that routine and then SHE immediately pivots to his and people leave. And of course, for trump, that's like, no, we know.

Here's a liver snap. Yes, I know right. And you like, no trm, come back, come back.

I know. No, don't do IT so he did IT, he did IT and then he did. And you're like, pivot had demigod.

This is your best issue. This is her worst issue. pivot. pivot. pivot. So he starts pivoting. And that's what we got into the dogs and the cats.

Okay, I mean reading the pets, I mean IT is a thing, but maybe not our best example. Like the baboon b had a headline other day saying, like democrats fact chat trump, no, no dogs and cats being killed, just women and children. So he put its back to immigration with the dogs and the cats of fact, not happening.

Another inner that check this is this is a matter up for debate right now. We've had dozens now at this point of witness testimonial saying that is true and we have one unnamed city manager saying not that I could prove well, that's that's not a approved that is not happening. Another inappropriate of fact ject.

So he screwed up trumps omentum and then he interrupts to go to calm. And here i'm thinking to, okay, this is where he's gonna back to her and say, the question was, why did you wait until six months before no one's giving me an answer? We've done ralles and we've done dogs.

What's the answer? And instead of saying that to her, what does he say? Your response? Metam parris, matter. Vice president, what? That's not the toss.

So what does he do? Does he get up there and say, let me, let me give an answer. Let me he says, two hundred of republicans have endorsed me, and now we're off on that course. We never got back.

right? I mean, to be fair, dick chaney was one of them. Yes, that's right. What you meet. Did you ever think you would wake up in a country where commonly hera was bragging about darth vader and dorm like what?

And they love him? Now the left loves of dictionary.

IT is horrible daughter. The whole thing is like you're blowing my mind of all the republicans who could endorse yes, i'll take dictation ini just with a charm alone. what?

And so true. And by the way, the love you listen to left this media. They really think that's going to make a difference like they don't think that the trumps gona recover from the dick chai endorse line or the list shiny a lot of list chain e republicans left.

It's just crazy. I mean, that is a kind of classing moment for the republican party. actually. It's like getting a giant bolt quinta out after forty years.

Do you don't mate? And here's what will do all the people in our party who love killing people for profit. You can have that's right, joy. We're got a big ten. The water fine.

We look at the link of project. There's still out. They're doing these terrible ads about trop after their petipa a scandal. Now he survived that. There is some guy there was accused of behaving very inappropriately with Young men. I don't know exactly how Young, but the point is they're still democrats giving them millions of dollars than running ads against trust like he's the bad one.

You get build Crystal and dick enny, what a trade. So often we get public canada, I think it's fair king's.

Er so .

so you're the best. I just want to thank you for this conversation. I just put me a great mood and is wonderful to see you.

But I want to just and on getting your views on a topic that I think is really hopefully great. So you have just painted a devastating portrait of the american news media, and you're doing IT from a place of deep knowledge and experience. I mean, you're making Kelly you like you're not make you you're not guessing about this.

You work there, but then you leave nbc in the natheless most dishonest I said, exit. I've ever seen, never seen anyone treated the way you are treated. And then you build this kind of empire by yourself.

And it's it's an amazing story and it's attribute to your grit and your talent, your native talent. But it's also a commentary unlike where were going. I mean, i'm not I didn't even think to colony but IT in bc news to join on this tour because people don't even know who works there yeah right. So and maybe your life is a testament to what the future of media you will be. And maybe that's great.

Thank you. My life and years stucker. I think what we're proving is that the future of media is independent. It's a direct relationship between the consumers and the journalist of choice.

People will make up their minds on an individual basis who do I trust? How do I trust for news um in information and who don't do I trust? And more and more especially post pandemic, people are realizing you can't trust these large corporations.

They have agendas that they are secretly and not so secretly trying to shut down your throat without owning IT. You have an individual. You can make up your own mind.

Is he a truth teller? Is he a truth teller? Did they take big risks and go against the grain even when IT might heard them? Do they apologize to me when they got something wrong? Or owit? Are they self deprecating youth, like the most successful slash self deflecting person I know, which shows your million, and you want some with humility, telling you about the news? Because sometimes we do get IT wrong, and we need to be able to say, right, that was not my best.

That's in the audiences for giving. But you don't want people who are agenda driven, especially not with some corporate overlords agenda. So I was funny. I was listening this podcast recently and you came up, they're very angry at you and not the first time.

As a result.

they were trying to say that you, he has no influence, that he's is very popular, but with no influence. And this made me laugh. So literally, you had the White house wing in on tucker's interview last week.

OK like has absolutely no influence, but everyone in the country feels you need to comment on everything he does. And on top of that, you just look at don't take my word for IT because i'm your friend. You guys tell me who is more influential talk or carlson or wolf blitzer.

right? truly. Like, who has more sway with an audience? right? Like, i'll take myself like yours truly or like, makeup.

Prisons ski. I like, my odds are good on that cage match. Nobody talks about these people. Now maybe a show here there will make news, but cable news is dead. IT was a suicide that was assisted by dal trump, and IT was one that needed to happen. I can improve on that.

And I just I shall have set this in the outset of my introduction of you. I said, what a kind person on war, which I think is evidence anyone who listens to you. I said, what a talented persons where which is obvious, that's why you're successful but I forgot to mention the basis of your success in your happiness, which is you're honesty, you're an honest person and i'm grateful for and i'm grateful bear friend. Thank you.

Megan Kelly takes one to know what happen. Thank you. 行。

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