John Rich: Donald Trump, the Darkness of Eminem’s New Album, and the Song He Wrote Through God
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welcome to talk across become pretty clear the main string media are dying they cant die quickly enough and theres a reasontheyd dying because theyd lie theylides so much it killed them were not doing that talkacross not commy promised bring me the most honest content， the most honest interviews we can without fear or favor heres the latest um so when you you texted me when was at what did you text me about texted you probably essential the audio of it probably four months ago so im not a pro you know a musician or musically former anything like that so i dont you know ive no idea whats you know？

what the market wants or anything like that but um when you said your who you read a song about revolution i was like well， um so legitimate book of the bible but is the one that preachers dont teach that no one really wants to read that im thinking i dont thats so great i could want to talk too about it but yeah， i didnthink that anyone its an uncomfortable one what what me so tell the story like how ive never heard of anybody doing something like that right first！

all what is revelation revelation uh was written by the apostle John at the end of his life um when he was basically a cast away at that point and he started receiving visitors and proficies and he wrote down what he saw and a lot of what he saw he got a remember he only had his life experiences to try to describe what it was that he was singin these proficies on an island design yeah out of patmus yeah and so he was running this out as it was coming can you imagine what he must have like what is that what is that like hesing all these things that are going to happen to be in in the future and hes trying to describe it to us uh in the terms that he was familiar with so i mean that the book is absolutely incredible and its not just revelation revelation ties back into Daniel， which was around thousands years before John yes， it also ties and Matthew 24 second testlonians， 2BURST， Corinthians and a lot of other places people think that the whole end times discussion only resides in the book of revelation。

but thats not true so the book of revelation tells the story， the end of history thats my tells the story about about the return of Jesus Christ yes！

it says its telling you what is going to happen prior to him coming back and whats gonna happen after he comes back lays it out so how did you decide to write a song about a book of the bible that most Christian preachers dont want to talk about i did not decide to write the song 哼 because first of all how do you sing whats in revelation think about it you know uh last new member i met my house in Nashville was not thinking about writing a song about anything and out a nowhere it felt like i hammer hit me in the back of the head bone like that， like what is this what is going on whats this feeling and this melody and these lyrics oh revelation i can feel it common like a darktrain running oh get ready because the king is coming the king is coming back again just but im talking like that and i went where were OK i was at home in Nashville， the sitting in your little just being of just chilling out and i said OK， i hear you i grab a guitar off the wall， a pencil， a notebook went set in a quiet room in the house in and about sixty minutes the entire song had come out i sang it into my little voice notes on my iPhone put my airbuds in and walk around the house just pacing around the house listening to it over and over and the hair is raising up on my arm is this how partner endurance was this how song writers right songs this is has this happening before is this no nothing ever the only other song ever wrote that felt like this was one called earth to god that i wrote a few years ago that was the same experience with that but this one was more intensive than that um you know when he hit you， you know it it is it is you can not mistake uh when the lords slaps you upside the head with something you have a physical reaction to it i do i have a physical reaction to it it does not happen very often its a very rare currents but when it happens listen what im built to do is take a pencil and put the words on the paper， put music to that and then project that out that ive spent my whole career getting to a point where im pretty good at that accept this message this message is beyond and its incredible that it hit me when it did and this period of time so you felt your channeling this i felt like he slamved it right through me and as im walking around listening to it and the hair is raised up on my arms i remember looking out the window and i looked up and i went what you want me to do with this me what is what you want me to do and the message i felt coming back to me was takeit all the way to the mat best phrase it hit me tech meaning make the audio as great as you can with your skill set make the video as compelling as you possibly can and when you get those things done tell as many people as you can slam it out there would no fear as hard as you possibly can and let let this thing be hurt that is your job go do it see your describing a creative process in which your kind of like not driving the training at all at all no no cause i didnt come up with the song i did not lay out some marketing strategy for the song i was given instructions as to what to do with it and listen i it its a its an unnerving thing to write a song like that to sing it and then put it out there in front of god in everybody， especially in the way， the world， links and operates today thats thats not what a thats not what a popular artist would do i mean well， whatscre again i dont know anything about this world um but when you told me that i didnt even think about you know would anyone download thatsong and then as of this morning its warned the top downloads in the country its in all genres its its its in the top five ish right now of all genres of download songs its battling people like m and m who i look up his record just to see what eminems doing one of the titles on his record is just called evil one is called lucifer and one is called antichrist how crazy is that and so i see mm and revelation course， hes got the entire machine behind him i i dont have any body i dont have any you know any physical machine behind me and sort of watch those two song sitting there co existing was a pretty same machine to people who weren in the music is not me maybe they dont know what youre talking what are you talking about massive record labels massive radio play massive budgets to to push and promote and manipulate media and get get his get his song out there what is your as your record label doing for you my record label yeah， my record label is a Po box called rich records llc she dont im the president founder and employee so you dont you dont have anybody pushing the song nope just the people let hear it and if the song strikes them they they push it for the whoevers following them so before we get into what the song is actually about um we you just describe like how do you how do you roll something like this out if you dont have publicisrecordlabel if you donhave the machine how do you do that i do have a publicies so jewels has been with me a long time so when its time to roll showcall people and go hey， Johns got the song revelation would you interview im about it？

so we do do that we go and talk to people and you know come talk to you but beyond that uh nothing you just post it i post it on my x account at John rich and i went up there and i said this is the most important song of ever written thats called revelation i hope it brings courage to the saved conviction to the lost and absolute fear to the truly wicket that was the post and within about forty eight hours its now battling some of the biggest artists in the world thats all i said absolutely incredible thats it theres nothing else thats it then the song and that video does its thing you know its its got the boss hand on it he he gave it to me he told me to write it so i did and he told me to go put it out there so i did its on him now what do you？

what do you think the message so you you basically have said that you didnwrite the song the song came through you thats correct and i know that may sound like some kind of weird thing for people to hear but that is exactly what happened im not capable of writing lyrics like that and and first of all theyre not really lyrics its they come right off the pages of the book man i mean it i just made it right， i just made what John talked about in revelation i just made the crafted them so where they would rhyme and become a song but you know the the the entrance of the song says Stan advancing in the flames the people cursed his name talking about Jesus and boutat the alter of the father of lies but theres a number to their days and all their evil ways the lordis gonna turn away from all their cries meaning at the end and what thats talking about is when you watch the superball halftime show or you watch the grammy awards or you watch some of these big concerts of music videos where they are putting satanic symbolism right in your face they are they are practicing whichcraft on the stage right in front of you your watch at a football game or a wordshow and with your kids and now warm up straight even coming straight out you weve all seen this now somebodyhastaccounter that you know these guys have all these massive budgets the entertainment value that the ability to produce those things at such a high level its impossible to look away from it you know its like boom power huge special effects all this stuff and everybodys just mesmarize and its going right into um so on revelation we can access yeah go ahead！

but i actually havent seen any of that because i dont ifridy， but um ive read that this happens yeah， e y are they putting why are they pushing Satan worship on television because theyre doing the work of their father just like i am， well um and theres kind theres kind of node deny i mean theres no theyre not getting richer by pushing satanic symbols sure they are yeah yeah because the industry uh you know the way that the way those movie industries。

music industries， all of that not everybody in those industries， obviously is you know some kind of a Satan worship or something but theres a lot of that in there theres a lot of that in there and they have spent decades programming us from a young age to think those things are fine and normal and they get rewarded for that you know that that people that people that really serve the father alive they get rewarded by him when they when they proclaim his word and do what he tells them to do and so revelation is the other side of that thats why i went to such extremes with this video because i wanted it to compete visually with what people are used to sing i didnt want it to be like someone dimensional looking thing i wanted it to be up to the level to what people are used to sing and were going to combat were going to present both sides play at a high level bring it at a high level and thats why we went so far with it itjust it its so interesting to see the way your framing this so its it your framing it very differently its not just that the the median entertainment businesses are liberal or in the pocket of the Democratic Party youre saying that theyre pushing a theology on the country a hundred percent node out about it you know the devil hescareddeath of Jesus Christ minute says in the scripture resist the devil and he will flee from you flee like what is pants and run out the door if you deny him if you go not of course with Jesus and you you go uh uh get out of here and he will hell take off running and so youre not supposed to have fear of family only one youre supposed to fear fear a Christian is not the one who can kill your body it says dont fear the ones who can kill your body fear the one who can kill your body and kill your soul meaning the creator the boss Jesus Christ the Trinity and so i look at this situation as manage hes gonna hit me with this song and trust me it makes me nervous im a im a little nervous right now just sitting here talking about it but if hes gonna task me with that someday when i go see him im gonna im gonna have to answer for a lot of things i didnt do right but i hope this is one where he goes but you did a good job on that one because i gave you the song i told you what to do with it and you did it you put it out there it it so when you say these things。

youre not saying them as someone whos guessing i mean youbeen in enterteam business your whole life over thirty years since your kid i think next so i mean you know how it works again this is not something you read。

a something youve seen when did it become clear to you that this was a theology that these people were working knowingly or not on behalf of eval actual evil like when did that dont anyof what it became they got so arrogant with it seems like and maybe the last in ten years it it i dont know what happened on there side begins they got the green light to go all the way in and thats when you started saying for instance grammy a word performances were people are literally coming out wearing satanic symbols they are carrying out i guess they were mock sayanswers， but i mean it look pretty real to me and all this stuff started happening even some of your biggesortise in the world during their live concerns in full of giant stadiums full of people are doing these things out on the stage in between their hitsongs theyll come out as just part of the production of the show its art， its just art i mean go look at theres a rapper name as out there and trust me everybody watch it you wont know， but everybody watching this most people will know what im talking about when you see him？

a given a lap dance to the devil in his video straight up and they are not ashamed about it look at m and m s new record where the titles are luciferanacrised evil this is outright now so i dont know what happened on there side to go petal to the metal with it， but they absolutely did so on the other side of that what are we supposed to do in a response to that just yell at it screen at it be discussed by it you can do all those things well！

the first you take action is naming your， naming it your Wu， which i think is so interesting youre calling it what it is youre not falling for the lie which is this is just art right its more than that i mean maybe its art we can debate that， but its certainly more than that this is a theology youpushing a relision on me yeah and its a value of darkness and wise right and theyre you know theypushing the same uh theyre same theology because it is that on our kids theyre pushing it in schools theyre pushing it in pop culture theyre pushing it everywhere you turn around you cant get away from it i mean were animated with it right now we are swimming and what these people have put out there its again its just really important to know what youdealing with him to say it out loud and i think if you had said that to me five years ago i would have thought well you know really like John rich little far out but now nothing im saying right now OK anybody thats had a tv set on in the past year knows what im talking about its just beyond um thank you for saying that， so we tell us about revolution you said revolution is the story of Jesus coming back right whats init exactly because i think even a lot of Christians havent read it carefully dont understand it dont want a confront it what what is it so in in in this song and in this video what what it is talking about is what the real war is lot gonna turn away from all their price？

itsasinephesions we wrestle not with flexion blood but with principalities and powers and the rulers of spiritual darkness of this earth of this world that is the battle thats the real battle and and they say you know the bablets says you cant see that because theres a thin veil between the physical and the spiritual whats going on just on the other side of the vail but when you read Daniel and you read revelation it says its some point that vail will be torn， which my song talks about that and when that vale is torn youre able to see whats going on on the other side of that and so in the video you see the devil come blasted through a firy portal out the woods attending sea on one side of a little country church on a black horse and he starts running and he looks nasty its nick cercy by the way the actor uh my good friend he plays the devil hes won the nicest guest you ever met so whats funny that hes the devil but he plays a good one and on the other side of that church out the wooden Tennessee this massive beam of energy comes crashing down to the ground and the trees go like this and out of that glass comes Michael the Ark Angel when he pulls a broad sort out of his sheet and he start and he grids his teeth and this guys got muscles thats hollywould Yates my buddy from California he comes walking straighttowards the devil and theyre coming like this and im standing in the middle， im humanity and hears evil and hears righteousness and they are about to clash and the point of that is to put into peoples mind a representation of what is spiritial warffair what i wonder what it actually looks like not did the best job i could try to depic that but when you see those scenes， i think thats one reason why this song is doing what its doing because to my knowledge nobodyservereven approach this subject in the world a musiker video amazing so why is it um？

why is revelation so hard for people to to grasp to read to understand so for thousands of years um the proficies in revelation and Daniel and other places seem like such science fiction to people this can understand how these things are even possible include mount dad hebeen preacence since he was about nineteen hes in his early seventys now and he said yeah， John you know just never could understand how some of these things were possible for instance the mark of the beast how was it possible？

we would all say that you could track every human being in the world and know where they are and how they get their money and where they spend their money i mean thats just impossible and here we said going oh no theyre trackingus right now they know exactly where we spend our money and where we get our money because it says you wonbe able to buy or sell unless you have the mark of the base you could you could replace the word base with system revelation says that oh yeah without the mark wont be able to buy yourself unless you bear the mark of the beast and when you when you go back and look that up in the Hebrew whatstokingabout the global power thats in place at that point！

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what is the what is the beast？

the beast is going to be whatever entity a group of nations it speaks of that will set in the motion we always talk about globallist and the globalistic end and all these things it will be a a globalized stranglehold on the human population that they will know where you spend your money where you get your money reminds me of a central bank digital currency is something like that so Ive read im embarrassed this is being recorded i probably should admit that Ive read revolution actually sure try to understand it um last year i didnt realize its set how do i miss that it says you cant buy yourself without the mark of the beast without the mark yes！

John on the posse John on some Greek island 20 years ago said the yes！

he did yes， he did and so so prior to technology showing up where its at now in 2024， these things were impossible couldni？

i mean this has that gonna happen thats a pretty specific call though too very specific yeah， its so now all the things that need to exist physically are all here now， so that the proficies had been laid out could now， physically manifest now， i dont know if thats gonna be today or a hundredyears from now， or a thousand years now i dont know the answer to that， but i do know this is a new error so when you read revelation you read Daniel and you read these other these other proficies its now doesnt sound like science fiction anymore because we see it every single day that is absolutely crazy is that a light bulb going off for what well？

yeah yeah， i dont and i also dont quite know how i read the whole thing and didnt catch that well， its a because that is this that is it one of the central questions i mean thats like top three question of our current moment is will we allow technology to take our autonomy away and for example， control what we buy yourself at right well。

i mean yeah with the advent what wegot ai now in the mix， weve got all these things that i mean where do you know they they track us where are you know they know？

where we spend our money where they know those things i wanted to talk about you know spiritual warfare we just saw present Trump almost murdered on stage and everybody Ive heard talk about it even hisdetractors say that was an active god that he did not die this it was it was also an active god that the situation was allowed to happen in the first place dont forget that part its all in active god all of it so the lord allowed the situation to happen， and then he allowed Donald Trump to survive the situation i wonder i had this thought this morning before， i came and saw you and i was readin and thinking praying about it and i said， i wonderif whatjust happened to Donald Trump this near death experience he just survived is not an analogy for whatsaabout to happen to the United States of America is America at some point gonna have a near death experience but survive it， but nevertheless have a near death experience you know if you look at America， nobodyever been more blessed than America， nobody ever been more prosperous than America， more free than America weve been given every possible thing you could ever want life liberty in the pursuit of happiness and what has our country done with that not every person but as a whole what have we done with that how much blasphemous things have come from this country an exist unchecked right now on our society and i think myself is America immune from the wrath of god are we immune from it cause im pretty sure hes really upset with a lot of the things weve done and i think the only way people ever truly repent and come back around is to have those what we could call on near death experience so that those those experiences happens throughout the bible where us all from a fetually known as Paul who wrote most the new testment his whole job was to go out and hunt down Christians and cut their heads off thats his job he was good at it he was rootless town to town to town they all source coming hide hide hecut theheads off， cut their heads off and then on the road to the maskus he gets not flat on his butt and his blinded for several days and in those moments he realized oh well， hes real happencutting the heads off of his people this entire time and he had a near death experience and when par came when par saw came out of that he then became par， and then he wrote halfthe new testiment this is not new in and gods mo when the biblest， when when god says about himself， i am the same yesterday， today， today， and forever， my word does not change we change culture changes， the world changes but he doesnt so i however， he dealt with things all the way back to the beginning of the written word is exactly how hes going to deal with him now in into the future and that is something people dont want to come to grips with that they America Lex to make Jesus into their own image lot of Christians like to make Jesus send their image they want the version of Jesus that they like they like to save your part they dont like the lord part its lord and save your whats the difference well， the saveyourpart is is the part that saves your soul and you you get to go be with him when you die the lord part he refers to uh his people as bonds labs， bonds slaves we were supposed to be bonds slaves to cries meaning you are a piece of property he owns you， you dont have your will doesnot matter what you want to do does not matter he owns you， thats what it means to truly become an actual real Christian as you turn everything over to him its like that the what is it mean to repent what does that mean repentance is like fewer if you were driving your truck out here and you saw Jesus Christ stand in on the side of the highway you go hold it out Jesus stand on the side of the highright he needs a ride so you pull over you roll down the winning you go hey， Jesus， you need a ride and he goes yep and he walks around your side of the car and knocks on the Durant says move over and he sits behind the steering will intern to you turn and goes the other direction or wherever he wants to go thats repentits repenance is not i like to save your part i dont like the lordpart she slikebelief in faith the difference string those two things the devil himself believes in Jesus Christ knows all about em hes been fighting with him since the beginning believe im listen what is this is a chair sunnice chair good strong chair made well before i set down in this chair i look at that chair and i go i believe that chair will hold me up i really do some nice chair strong chair but until i sit down in the chair i dont have faith that the chair will hold me up you have i have to trust and but and have faith in this chair that i will not go crashing down to the floor when i sit down on it thats what faith is the Jesus that um exists and whos words and eads recorded in the new testament howis that Jesus different from the one that we hear about in a lot of churches you know um theres a verse actually printed out i dont know it but i just do i dont want to miss quote scripture at all second chronicle 74 very well known verse gets quoted all the time if my people who were called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seat my face and turn from their wicked ways then i will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their lant OK that gets read all the time heres the part day mistocker the very first line if my people will repent if my people will turn from their wicked ways not the devils people hes not saying if the devils followers will just repent and turn around outcome heal your land， no， he said of my people will mine the once you have my name， who beared my name Christians if they will repent and turn from their wicked ways and humble themselves will come heal their land so the answer to your question is for very long period of time in this country weve not had any type of persecution or horrible things happening that would that would humble a Christian like that and and refocused them to understand who he actually is and so because of that all these bad things are happening now that is not going to be preaching in a church out promise you talker no preacher is gonna say its our fault of this is happening why because it puts the owner on them on me on you on Christians they dont want up to take that right what is cant be my fault this is all the devils work what says right here if my people if my it says it right there if my people who recall by my name humble themselves in praying seek my face and turn from there wicked ways they would read what it says i mean for too long preachers have gone in and and sanded the edges off of these very literal and very powerful verses to suit the narrative its not its not unlike uh what they do in the media we always talk about how the media will take a a story about how a war started or some some big thing thats going on and theyll twisted around to fit the narrative that they want to have to accomplish whatever！

it is well the same thing happens with her all the time and its been happening for a very long time i would i would say even hundreds of years its been happening so it is interesting the i mean they replace the whitehousereplaces Easter with transvisibility day they put on all lady and many others in prison for praying in an abortion clinic these are obvised a tax in Christianity um putting Christians in prison because theyre Christians thats an attack in Christianity and you havent heard a ton from preachers on that i mean some but youd think they would be rising up as one and saying no。

no not allowed but theyre not so it does feel like if there is pushback against us where a countrymusic star and youpushing back again whys it falling to you thats a great question i mean trust me im going im asking the same question um but if you read back to the history the bible some of the people that it came forward and and brought messages forward with a most unlikely human baggs you would ever pick almost almost i mean bunch a sailors， a tax collector i mean random people that became the twelve disciples are sale going into Paul i mean a guy thats murdering the Christians were gonna have him right most of the new testment guys thats the plan really i mean who would thought that then oh its your totally right back to go back to Moses you know Moses uh did not want a did not want to go tell a fair to let my people go he goes it says it Moses spacy at a speech impadiment he couldnt speak well， yeah he goes you want me to go give this big message to ferro i cant even speak very well he goes yeah but your brother Aaron can so Aaron is gonna go with you and aarons gonna help you speak and until but youre gonna be the one deliring the message modules like i dont wanna do this i dont want to do this he goes youre gonna do it and he goes OK final go do it i mean and Moses doesneven have like heshow mad at his own people that at one point he says to god just kill me i cant deal with people theyre hard right exactly， what is you pick this what i David is a great example， so David， David is the only man of the bible that god said is a man after my own heart， but gotta be the greatest compliment ever given to a human being for god to say David is a man after my own heart but lets lets think about who David was for a minute so David when we first really start learning about him hes a Shepherd boy， probably a teenager， and the israelasser facing off with the philistings， and they refuse to take on the philistines because of this giant standing out there name Goliath we all know the story and David goes to visit his brothers out there in a field and hes up why are you guys not why？

why are they still over there？

blassfeming us i mean why havent you taken these guys out they go what David dont you know theyve got a giant he goes thats why youre not doing it because they got a giant well， yeah hes ten feet tall hegoes oh can we be right back and David runs down to the creic and he picks up a few rocks and has his sling on him he goes whats this？

why am i lets a rock fly hits glyath right between the eyes and knock them down people think that thats what killed iath， but thats not what killed at thatwhatknock him down and so when he knocked them down， theres galliot lay in there days and confused like wow what just happened and as eason that state David pulls gallius own sword out of out of galais sheet which was probably heavier than he was raised it up over his head and cut galass head off in front of the philistines and the headers and any turns around and looks at the hebress go you ready to fight now and they went why am in here they come and they destroy the philistings they random completely out of there so with davidsaman after gods own heart and thats how David operated i would argue thats how Christmas are supposed to operate theres a difference between you know the description it says pray for your enemies you know that one of course， theres a difference in our enemies and gods enemies does not say to pray for gods enemies matter fact its the quite opposite of that in proverb six people that say we god lives everybody nowhere does it say that problem six it listthe people that god hates uses the word hate and one of the first thing i listis those whose feed are swift to shed animcent blood yes， he hates them were not supposed to pray for them and you go into songs one thirty nine and David says i hate your enemies talking to god with a perfect hatreed ask what he wrote down so theres a lot that Christians are confused about right now this all kind of mangled up and missed and match together from from all the centeries of preaching the stuff that they have lost their edge they forgotten， who they are and they forgotten how Jesus operated， how his people operated， and where were supposed to land when this is all said and that especially when you were taken on the absolute evil that runs the world like we talk about its interesting i i learn most by sort of negative assessments in other words if you look at people。

who you know are doing the wrong thing what are they hate， what are they opposed to and that tells you a lot and right theyre so focused on Christians you were the most peaceful wallbiding decent even if you think theyre insane， theyre theydefinoutmugging anybody right why you mad at them right？

but they are and they feel very very threatened Christian nationalism yeah， e you know i mean do you really think that those the people you need to work no， you want more of people like that but the the people in charge dont feel that way theyre very threatened by the questions and i just think that thats the most revealing of all yeah because they know who dwells within the Christians。

the boss， the ultimate， the alpha， the Omega， the one whos blood was poured out on a tree for us thatswholives inside of us the one who created the devil himself。

thats who theyre afraid of so you said a minute ago that um that history will end time well， in Jesus or return you dont know when right it says we dont know exactly OK so can you and i i get at least once a day someone coming by my house and leaving me something about the end times at which i appreciate of course and um no im im actually sure， sure， sure and uh every single day and thats great and i and i met a lot of the people in there couldnbe nicer but in some of the stuff that they leave which i read actually， um theres a sense it like we can predict through new morology for example。

like the datasis histresending and yous saying we cant no the babel says we can im not saying anything the babel says uh no man knows the time or the hour when Jesus were returned and thats correct nobody knows cannot backup two hundred years my god what your real query you？

i know you love history yes， twohundred years ago basically in 100 三十 a very wealthy， very cars magic preacher named John Darby drby camewith this doctrine thisnow referred to as the secret rapsureor the pretribulation rapture， that message took off why wouldnit i mean who didnt want to hear that will all be out of here before anything bad happens such a great message that will back the views right there i love it and and it allowed them to say for all we know the rapture could happen before this shirt service ends right now so you better move and i guess to that in it had a great effect， a lot of people！

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few decades after that against Gofield have you ever heard of a scofieldbible yes， i have OK so css Gofield was a basia student of John Dorbi and he adopted that part of the doctrine and he corporated that into the bible it was the first bible ever made that had studying notes with it we have all kinds of bibles now that have you know concordencies and study notes and all kinds of stuff that go along， but this was the first one that was ever， ever made it became so popular， every question was reading it， every minister was reading it and this this continues to day to this exact second， my own dad when he went in seminary and was you know want to become a minister， they said make sure you have a scoldbible now when you come the class have your scoldbible Scofield bible also adopted that that entire John Darby philosophy of Christians will not be here when the bad stuff starts to happen and most Christmas， still believe that matter fact a lot of my friends that are kristons are going to watch this interview probably right now going hang on a minute now hang on so this is a this is pushing back against a doctor thats been in existence now for coming upon two hundred years the problem with that doctor is theres a several places in the bible where it talks about whats going to happen prior to Jesus Christ coming back to the earth when he does come back that is when what we call the rapture happens word rapture is nowhere in the bible it talks about a spink caught up with him and pulled out of here and then and then the ultimate wrath is poured out on this planet thats what we call the rapture but the so thats not indibate the question is what happens leading up to that its good question to ask right for some reason nobody ever preaches that they dont talk about what all happens prior to it so if i can can not just read if we have time thats why i love the thoughtof this interview just oh i do two but just to be clear your what your saying is the scofield bible its theology is deceptive im saying that the same way the media takes a factual situation and twisted and gives you a version of it， which we all know were forced feed every single day the same exact tactic was used in 138 John Darby and guess who he was connected to by the way the rothels interesting yeah， he was connected to the rothchilds family back in the day that he did the same exact tactic and twisted that i dont know why he did that it worked because it took off and i mean it it was there were churches popping up everywhere right after that im saying that including me， including mount father for a longtime thats what we believe to but when you start actually going back and reading line by line by line what is said that will be leading up to Jesus coming back？

which is when the rapture happens its a its the inverse of what John Darby put down i i didnt know that uh but somehow im not surprised even a little bit yeah yeah um yeah im sorry but i interrupted clear about what you were saying so youre saying you want im curious how you take this what im telling you right now i dont know that personally something i know nothing about any of the stuff um but i decided to read the bible about a year and a half ago i did um and really just change my life i just thought it was just the most amazing thing ive ever read or or done uh but when i decided to do that im so just trustfull niding grow brand preachers but i i have real distrust and i think its earned and so i didnt any commentary in my but the bible i bought on Amazon doc com just want to know what it says thanks Jeff yeah， just want to know what it says and um so yeah i and to this day include in this morning i mean i just i just want a because im coming from total ignorance that my father was not a preacher i to put a mildly so um yeah i dont have the background at all so i just want to know what it says i dont want to be misled ive lived a life uh you know in the media so im highly familiar with how populations are misled to lead to deceived and then hurt on the basis of those lines i know a lot about that and i didnwant that i dont want thats want to have tb so why dont like the internet i dont want that stuff from my head and so i have no commentary at all in the bible that im reading and um but my sense was the scofield stuff， which is had massive implications uh for foreign policy for example and on our domestic politics was was probably a lie you know it seems like a why i mean but i but i dont really know because i dont think i dont think all of it was align i think this this particular subject uh that that was you know that that translation or that that commentary on uh the bible has had massive effects on our politics that have been very very negative and results in the death of a lot of people so i do know that for a fact but i dont know much about the theology so it would you mind expo i intered you youre gonna now now get to that you not know right to me this this is a great its very powerful conversation i dont i think were the only two humans on earth having this conversation in front of everybody i feel like people are very open to things that why i speak for myself i i and zero interest in having any kind of conversation about the bible three years ago right， um not against the bible never been against the bible believing god i believe in god three years ago but i i wasnt that interested yeah talking about repulation i mean im all right im a wasper this will talk with a stuff so um but i feel like its not just me i think that a lot of people are reach in the conclusion that the materialist society we grew up in those is insufficient to explain what were seeing yup and that were facing off against these forces we scribe names them like leftism or comments more theres something is more than that those are that that doesnt tell the whole story this is a theology thats being pushed on us and so maybe its worth knowing more about it yeah！

i think people are watching whatsapenein in our country around the world and theybecoming more and more fearful of it even to the point of thread， a lot of people are just consumed of what is happening thats right and they want answers they want a truthfull answer will somebody please tell me the truth and the truth about that is the only ultimate truth is not me and its not you when its not any politician or anybody on tv its what the book says now if you if youre watching this and you go out i dont believe even iminatheistenatwhatever that doesnt matter thats fine but if your Watson this youll hear it anyway， because it is the truth， then the truth has a way penetrated well。

i would also say this i felt about myself like i know kinds of opinions about god and original but its kind of hard to have its like i have lots of opinions about Ana carena but Ive read it i mean why i get it just worth reading the document and its long it took you you know fifteen months to reader fourteenmonsebut its were its like no any has read it just read it and then get back to me lets have a conversation right whatwhats in there right thats like the first step just read it it maybe your an athias？

maybe your question it doesnt matter just read whats in there by the way thats the foundation of western civilization so just as a you know is a historical matter you should know whats in there nobody does a great very few people do so why is it dangerous right now that Christians have this idea that theyre gonna be out of here before any the things that are proficiedabout happened why is that dangerous its dangerous because when the market bee shows up， when the sonnerposition shows up， who is who refer to as a antichrist when those things happen and theyre still here， theyll say well that cant be the mark of the beast that cant be the Anna criss because im still here what danger does that put someone in thats not the market of base because im still here should go ahead sign me up think about the de the level of danger with that it and it has not existed in my opinion until recently， since technology is got new the point taxi execute these things so if if you got a second， can not cannot read something for your unless you want i ask me something yeah so uh lexes just come in with this yeah！

breaking news judge dismisclassified documentscaseagainst Donald Trump judge ilene Canon is dismistclassivised documents case in a ruling Monday， um， she said the appointer， the special council jacksmith filated the constitution kind of um command just tearing this because it just happened， but uh does it does seem like all of a sudden and istarted started up but i just now responded that um it seems like everything has aligned in the period of like three days to make it very obvious dont trums to me the next person i know theres no doubt about it at this point very little doubt to this that you can tell the future but what you make of that uh willy try to kill him yeah， oh well， theres that i mean and they missed her god returned his head and they missed and then within like four minutes elongmuskindorsesright just man in the world right biggest most important media mobile in the world by far and you know bill akman life on democrat is like all of a sudden its just everything changes yeah！

one moment what god shows up uh that clearly its hard for even the biggest tractors to deny it they go what did i just watch you just watched god turn Donald Trump said literally a split second part of a second right before the bulletwith but i mean if it is still been looking this way， it catches him here he turns this way it catches him here we all just watched it i mean think about god making his presence know i mean on the biggest possible story you ever could and the whole world just saw that so now now youve got people going OK i believe it i believe it because how do you deny that no its exactly right and further further evidence i mean were i feel like were in the middle of history！

were in the middle America is a movie and we have no idea how would ends but clearly right！

right that and the timing of of revelation coming out i could i theres no way to know all this stuff i mean that song comes out few days ago and then this happens and that happens and now i look on， look on accent spiritual warfare is trending and all these people are talking about that and i want okay， i get it i mean thats why it was written that thats like the musical component thats outfloating around out there right now while all this is happening i mean Tao there is no coincidence in the in the world i can allow for that to happen do you believe there any quincidence no do you no i used to ive seen too much on fifty five i donthink god is common said no i keep sidetracking you now youfine so im sorry i just wanted to she brought that in a now， thats big deal！

thats crazy， thats absolutely crazy！

so so a lot， a lot of crashes watching this right now are very upset with me why because im saying something thats pushing back against something they have grown up believing i group， believing it to so to my dad and for since 1830 people are believes that youre going to be out of here before any of the bad stuff happens it just doesnt say that so if you can give me enough time to read oh my gosh， please im i cast it this is second thestelonians two she doesnt get preach very much this is Paul wrote this now brethren concerning the coming of our lord Jesus Christ and are gathering together to him meaninghissecondcoming we ask you not to be soon shakenonmind or troubled either by spirit or by word or by letter as is from us as though the day of Christ had come let no one deceiveyou by any means for that day the day he comes back will not come unless the falling away comes first and the man of sin is revealed the son of perdition whois who we referred to as yanna crust， who opposes an exalts himself above all that is called god or that is worshipped so that he sits as god in the temple or in the place of god showing himself that he is god， Jesus and come back yet this is happening do you not remember when i was still with you， i told you these things and now you know what is restraining that he may be revealed in his own time for the mystery of a lawlessness is already at work only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way meaning its being held back and then the lawless one will be revealed who the lord will consume with the breath of his mouth and destroy with the brightness of his coming talking about the second coming the coming of the lawless one is according to the work of Satan， with all powers， signs and line wonders， and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish because they did not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved meaning it was rejected they were told the truth and they rejected it and for this reason， god will send them a strong delusion that they should believe the lie that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in on righteousness lets stop right there you tell me god is gonna send a delusion on people hes gonna do that hes gonna be the one to make them go into chaos and not understand he says yes， that is what hes gonna do because hes given them chance after chance after chance and they refused to believe the truth and rather believe the lie when the end crash shows up， but we are bound to give thankstogod always for you brother and beloved by the lord becausegod from the beginning， chose you for salvation through centification by the spirit and belief in the truth to which he called you by our gospl for the obtaining of glory of our lord Jesus Christ therefore， brethren stand fast and holder traditions， which you were top weatherby word or by a pistle meaning by letter now mayor lord Jesus Christ himself and our god and father who was loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by Grace complete your hearts and establish you in every good word in work so thats second thestelonians two he lays out before he comes back youre gonna see the Anna Christ hes gonna show up hes gonna be running the place now that goes im telling you right now heads are exploding and in the church world in with a lot of Christmas theyre going but you can get mad all you want to im reading it verbatim if you dont if you got a problem with that go tell him you got a problem with it if you dont want to believe it put some latter fluid on your bible and throw it in the fireplace because whats the point？

it says what it says so i im personally in a weird position， where i ive never heard any of these conversations that i didngroup in a in a church like that at all i group in a fig church and um， that makes total sense to me that there would be deception well， there is deception everywhere but youre saying that what its say that this letter pause letter， the thesslonian says and revelation says and maybe Daniel says two its all over the bible there will be a leader who people worship as god who is not god yeah！

let me l read this this peaceful moretime let no one deceiveyou by any means forthat day will not come unless the falling away comes first and the man of sun is revealed the sun of perdition which was lying this yeah the the sun of perdition is who they？

we would refer to as Ana crash the word Ana crash doesnexist in the bible leader neither does when we read this throughout history really the word any crisis on there 嗯， no， or rapture？

itsat but its its the words we used to describe what theyre laying out so how dangers is that if if Christians believe ill be gone before this ever happens。

so when they are still here and he does show up theyre gonna be walking right into a bus show that i mean but it like raises the question that i rust with everyday in every context which is how do you know whats true， how do you spot you know your beinglied to how do you know how do you know whatsdeception and whats truth praingfordiscernmet is very important thats thats my goto but um right to give anything else but what are the what are the signs that youb being lied to what are the signs that something is bad mean Jesus says its just true you dont need to be a question to believe it that you judge it tree by its fruits i can call it an apple tree but if pairs come out its larger right exactly so how do we know， which leaders are line to us， which are bad like what are？

the signs， iifwhattheysayanddorunscountertowhatgodswordsays theyreline the simple is that people complicate this whole process ago exactly the question youre asking how do i know whotell the truth how do i know whos not well look at what theyre standing for fighting for howtheytalking and then go take that and go read what the book says about it what is god stance on it and if there opposed to that around align with that then there wrong and you you base it again seal to mature thats it what i think thats why we have the byte i think thats i think humans can humans cant figure this stuff out so this winner im standing in the kitchen with my dogs and my wife comes in she just come back from a long walk and she has this look on her face this look of tranquility and joy and peace and i said what even doing and she said i was praying and i said where she said on my walk for an hour and a half and it turns out trueslisting to something i never heard of before which an app called hellohello like hallowed and a friendly first gave it to her and this set off a training reaction in my family where pretty much everyone in my family started to listen to hello everyday， its a praare app and its the best way as you know to find peace and this makes it very easy to set aside the time to deeply pay every single day im so impressed by hello that i track down the number the ceo when i call them when i said， i want to advertise this on her podcast because its something that i really believe in and i think you do an amazing job but its basically nonedidominational Christian you dont have to be Catholic personyoucan be uh any kind of Christian but hello will help you focus your prayer in a way um theyll be very obvised your husband when you walk into the kitchen， i get promise you that um its an amazing amazing resource theyve got ten thousand audio guided prayers meditations bible studies famously mark walberg pleads one of them its just really really good you can download it for three months free at hello dot com slash Tucker and a strongly recommend you do that， it puts a lot of us including me it is only red at once umm at a disavantage because were not that literate were not biblically literate like i dont know you know， i didnt you already told me a bunch of things like i thought i would have picked up having ready and i missed him um so one marker that seems well ask you do you think this is a fair way to judge god creates order out of chaos right thats beginning a Genesis and so orderinchaos are really significant markers for whether something is from god or or not and if you get a lot of chaos like thats probably not from god right？

probably not most of the time except in second thessalonians， it says he will send a great delusion on the people because they refuse the truth and reduce him for so long that he goes OK igibme every shot im gonna give you now here comes， the cloud here comes， the fog here comes i dont know where im at and hes gonna let those people who rejected him over and over and over and reject the truth he allows them as i call it walking into the buzz saw walking into the woodchaper thats a hard thing man for Christmas to come to grips with that he said that that he would do that thats what it says so that means good people are gonna fall for wise it means that it it means that first others i i dont believe theres such things a good person and it says all of our trings behighy green yeah， Oliver righteis this is filthy rags on the side of god what it says i mean the only good thing about a Christian is that godsanom that Jesus is senim thats it short of him being in there youre just nasty filthy yeah now so but i think your point yeah people who are not inherently wicked people but have refused to to believe what hes told them for all this time and reject it！

reject it！

reject it！

it says hes send a great delusion anybody that wants to go read it i hope they pick the bible about this interview go look it up but people who think of themselves as sincerely godly people were trying to be Christian call themselves that right um theyll fall for the lie to it says many will it says many will so it sounds like you gotta be just on your game you gotta be aware you gottbe connected yeah tightly the someof things you think are good or not good right yes！

actually right i mean you go back to like you said 130 John Dorbi and cs Gofield and i wasnt there i dont know why they did what they did but that that doctrine was very popular still itstill the main doctrine today oh， i know oh the speaker the housebelieves it of Christmas are a most crit i say 99 percent of Christmas believe it i mean ive been Ive been anxious about this interview because i knew what im gonna say is gonna rattle people an an a major way！

but this is not my opinion docker is so sorry im just living because im im from a world where i dont think dont think i know anyones heard of Scofield im only learning of this recently it right there are many different cultures in America were just from very different once so yeah funny， but is that true so even now people believe that what hundred percent most maybe thats a a good example of the principle that youre describing or the fact that youdescribing yeah that Christians were you know trying their best yeah were still gonna fall for things that are alized because they have a they have yes！

because not just them this is not to preachers fault， this is not to christiansfault theyre not at fault for this this is been around since we wey web for anyveswherever thought about its become excepted doctrine that that the the footnotes and that that scofield adopted from Derby is biblically accurate and the only way those can be biblically accurate is youre going to have to erase several of the things that were said and theyre like the one i just read in second thestonians two youhave to rip those pages out for that to make sense because it literally lays out step by step this youre gonna see this， and then im gonna show up the greatest one ever is Matthew 24 and that that does get preached a lot but they preach it backwards and i dont know how much i dont know how much ascription you let me read on show im really interested by the way anyone is not interested in this stuff will have fallen away by now sure i think again at least in the weird world that im from more people understuden this than have ever been i think so i i think it does talk about a great revival happening at some point you know thats when i go back to a a neardeath experience will get your attention faster than anything that happened to me i know yeah ive had a couple myself yeah， alright， matt you twenty four youready yeah now this is Jesus talking to the disciples and theyre theyre hanging out in a part basically in in a nice little spot that they were hanging out Matthew 24 start reversed three now as he said on the mount of all lives talking about Jesus the disciples came to him， privately saying tell us when will these things be and what will be the sign of your coming in the end of the age asking him and Jesus and said to them take you that no one deceives you for many will come in my name saying i am the crist and will deceive many and you will hear of wars and rumors of wars see that you are not troubled for all these things must come to pass but the end is not yet perination will resiance nation and kingdom against kingdom and there will be famins pestlences and earthquakes in various places all these are the beginning obsoras then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you， and you will be hated by all nations for my namesake now thats an important part right there because a lot of people have tad over the years that because he was talking to the twelve disciples that he was specifically only referring to them and their country and there heridage but when it says forbearing my name for mynamesake， that means Chinese Christians， north Korean Christians eschemos Christians south American Christians American Christians anybody in this period of time that bears the name of Jesus Christ will be hunted it says killed hunted hated by all the nations around the earth thats an important distinction and then many will be offended thatsounsfamiliar will betray one another and will hate one another then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many， and because lawlessness will abound the love of many will grow cold but he who ender to the end shall be saved and this gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in all the world is a witness to all nations and then the end will come now here here， we go here therefore when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of bydaniel the prophet the abomination of desolation Tucker is when the Anna criss steps into that role that we talked about the second thestelonians when you see him standing in the holy place then let those are in judia fleet to the mountains let he whois on the housetop not go down to take anything out of the house and let him whois in the field not go back to even get his close and woe to those who were pregnant and those who are nursing babies in those days and pray that your flight may not be in winner or on the Sabbath for them will be the great tribulation such has not been seen sensed the beginning of the world under this time no nor ever shall be Jesus still hadncome back yet remember this is the disciples can happen before you come back all these things are happening and unless those days be shortened no flesh would be saved but for the alexate meaning his people， those days will be shortened then if anyone says to you look heres the cries or there do not believe it for false cries and false prophesfully rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive meani no perform miracles in front of you if possible， they could even deceive the elect see that ive told you beforehand therefore that they say to you look hes in the desert do not go there or look hes in the inner rooms do not believe it foras the lightning comes from the east and flasses to the west so also will be the coming of the son of man for wherever the carcasses there the eagles will be gathertogether now in verse 29 immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened in the moon will not give its light the stores will fall from heaven and the powers of heavens will be shaken then verse 30 then the sign of the son of man will appear in heaven and then all the troubles of the earth will mourn and they will see the son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory， and then he will send his angels with a great cloud and a trumpet and they will gather together his elite from the four weens from one end of having to the other Matthew 24 when the disciples asked him， whats gonna be happening before you come back boss alright setdown im going to tell you and he goes play by play， and then this， and then that， and then this， and this， and this， and after this happens thenyousemecomment so it is such a dangerous mindset for really save people and Christians to think that theyre going to be pulled out of here before any of this happens why is that dangerous because when those things happen， youre going to think its not the real deal， youre gonna think well im still here so that cant be it it must be something else and the decisions you make under that false pretence could could be catest would be catstrophic to you it says anybody that takes the market abase that their name is not written in the lambsbook a life meaning the names that are written down the ones that are that are going to have and your name is not written in the lambsbook a life if you take that i mean this is no joke how do you not take it how do you not take the mart yeah you have to be willing to die suffer uh i think about theres theres Christians right now all over the world being killed by the hundreds of thousands we just dont talk about it theyre killon in China theykillname in North Korea theyre killon in Africa theykillim in the Middle East why are we above those people you think you think America gets to dodge this at some point absolutely not it is a its a perilous thing to bear the name is Jesus Christ in this world one of the reasons i wound up believing that this was true is because as you read this and you read Jesus pitch to his followers his disciples right its kind of the opposite where in the entertainment business you know its the opposite of any other advertising campaign that you would mount like use a Sandra church to make your closecleaner alright？

you do i mean right eatthisfood is delicious right Jesus is like follow me and youre gonna get hated by everybody including your own family and then killed bang a people are gonna celebrate your death and that message became the worldbiggest region the high created western civilization and youlike what a second thats really thats the pitch how do you get anyone to sign up for that well？

when yeah， when Christianity launched？

everybody knew thats what it was and they they just not that long ago Jesus was why would anybody sign up for that mean what i i gifsifa preacher and many do comes out and says if you believe this， youre gonna get rich， get a hot wife， get a huge house in you know all good things will happen to you should get it i mean who wouldnwant that but if someone like Jesus says youre gonna get to you get to be tortured to death if you follow this like why would anyone follow that because they know that hes the son of god okay that they that thats what im saying thats like the greatest testimony in my fee this is the conclusion i came to after reading i was like how good what must be true cus who who were oh that no i dont think sarebrally you whatever take you never bite that of course！

not whatever bat that hook i mean that you follow me and get torture to death no i dont like swim passet hook yeah but when he gets a hall to you in a real way。

theres no denying what that is and thats when people are converted thats when that when they feel that they really give their life to Jesus Christ and he comes and its why am i mean its there i mean it there is no escaping what that is it is real as artist so how should we feel about so what youre saying i think a lot of people will not therheads like you you feel like something we first all that this is this moment is real or not making us up on our minds and you know theyre sufferingahead how should we feel about that well？

it said its said he gives a lot of tough commandits he says out rejoyce when youre persecured for bearing my name if they， if they persecuted me what do you think theyre gonna do to you i mean yeah exactly its not its not really your best ony robins pitch as to why you should have signed up for this program but the benefit is its its your eternity its your talking about here you know it if you live the be two hundred years old its like that in the history of time its nothing i mean like that if you touch your hand， i had this started while back when um somebody says i broke my arm， myarm is broken and i go and i hit me funny out a nowhere i went my arm like who which party you was claiming i want to ship with that arm does does anything own itself thats this is my table， that is my dog， that is my car， that is my business im somebodys employee they say thats my employee is something is is is is claimed by a by something else throughout the world so you go my arm， my arm is broken what is that thats the spirit thats you thats the real you that has to live in this piece of junk for half a long it lives there youre actually hearing your spirit talk when you say that this is my arm， my face， my head， my talent， my， my， my all， this stuff and so people understand they have to understand that god created you to live forever somewhere the other he sticks you down on these weak little， banged up bodies that he gives us the weakest thing ever and then turns a devoluse and then he gives us free will to decide which way do we want to go thats why he became a man so he could empithize with man so he could understand the plate of man what man has to deal with every single day from temptation to torture to love and sadness everything else Jesus experience all of that stuff so i think to your point of why would anybody ever do that its because its not this your trying to save it its the actuallyternal you that is that is being saved is to go live an eternity and heaven with him instead of on the other side and its why the other side fight so hard to theyre not trying to take their bodies or trying to take their soles ielse think theres theres something about hearing！

something true even if its unexpected younever heard before you never thought of it before it seems bizor if it is true it was actually true it resonates like a tuning forkethombs hmm it feels different a true word feels different from a falseword yeah and theres something about these words that has struck people for thousands of years in ways they could never explain as like oh thats true i know that thats true i was made to know that that was true yeah because its in you！

its in you what kind of preacheris your dad heis nondenominational uh he my dad generally focused his his ministry in presons st ministry matdad when i was growing up， he did uh think it was thirty four Marty gross in a row with a guitar hanging around his neck standing in the French quarter as all the parades are going by and he standing down there singing gossible music and preaching to a little speaker that he had standing next to him and these parades would come by and spit on my dad from the top of his head only down to his boots over and over and over， and i asked him when time i said what thirty four years and thirty four yeah， i said why did you just why did you keep standing there with people hundreds of people just spending on you and he said because about one out of a hundredof would stop and ask me what i was talking about so you wipes bit off your face and you tell them what it is you here to talk about and i i have seen him do this were some i mean crazy looking guy you know totally out there start locking in with my dad and but for its over the guys down on his knees balling his head off getting right with god uh theres been stories of a man who were who had murdered multiple people and gotten away with it and on a street minist like that went turn themselves into the police and spent the rest or life in prison thats my dad thats where he went did he get pretty rich doing it oh， yeah hes loaded yeah theres a lot of money and street preachers you know you ask him because he is a extremely curious magic very i mean his communication is just the i hope you get to hear him someday it is unbelievable he could have probably passured the biggest churches in America and been a very wealthy man doing it you ask him why didnyou do that he said because the people it need to hear what i have to say are never gonna walk into one of those church buildings theyre lot behind bars theyre out on the street at martygroww theywherever they are theyre never gonna run into witless i go to where they are so he is always gone to where the humildy required to preach it martegra on the st through speaker is on inspire and and bravery and conviction thats a yeah very moment but youre lowering yourself when you do that youre on the street in the French quarter and i bet people did theyholding up a candle in a hurricang yeah no onesomeone most people are not impressed i think youre full youcrazy sure you know theres kind of very limited affirmation from people no its like you know its really cool you did that its like shut up weirdoll get out of here except when you when youve done that to hundreds of thousands of people， the success rate may be one percent thats still thousands of people its just an amazing thing to do what are you think of that when you were a kid？

oh， i mean its probably no doubt its why i am like i am and a lot of ways that when you grow watching a dad who has that level of conviction and its not that not that theres no fear involved or like oh wow， this is gonna be no youstill gonna feel that but but you go do it anyway， i mean trust me the conversation we just had about all this stuff ive been thinking about it for weeks before i came here going theres a lot of people are not going to like what im about to， say what im about to， read to them and push back against what theyve been taught their entire lives theyre not going to like that but when a song like revelation comes along when thats parted into you and youlike what you want me to do with it and he goes all the way this interview is part of going all the way with that you just go do it what what were you proud of your job when your kid oh my hero hundred percent i mean what can a what kind of person can do that i mean we see preachers on tv with 20 people in the audience and Bama book by my book put your money in now from play im Gonna get on my G6 go flyover here on a mission trip right now and they give this lookwarm messages that keep all the all the Christians just feeling nice and comfortable all the time and they never go into the stuff that were actually talking about which by the way talker is what is Gonna happen in this country and in this world at some point and like i said early on everything that needs to be in place for these things to happen exists now for preachers not to be preaching the truth about whats going on right now is such a disservice to their congregations its its criminal truly any you feel it to oh you can feel it all day long the sticks are so high right now so i get said back in eighteen thirty if you want to tell people nothing bags gonna happen before your raptured out of here OK， well， the rapture wasnpossible at that point because a lot of the a lot of the privacies hadncome true where everything we just talked about in Matthew 24 second thestinginstu but but now i would argue were on the doorstep of it seems pretty obviously we are it feels like it is and i and i think thats thats why you see things like spiritual warfare trending on x really i mean and its also when you see the other side coming with everything they got when you see these songs about lose ferana crised evil and all this other horrible stuff being pushed out there theyre throttle when everything they got at it right now and uh we got to stand up and go well im not strong enough to push you back but my dad is you donwanna meet my daddy can beat up your daddy thats that its that old phrase my daddy can beat up your daddy and thats the absolute truth how how should Christians respond day to day Christmas better get as close as they possibly can because i think we all feel big things coming we dont know what they are how bad theyll be or exactly when but everybody feels it the air im sure you feel it in air theres just this thing you wake up you can feel it and the only real truth out there is on the pages of the book everybodys got one in the house theres one in every hotel room there you can go online and look up anything you want to look up and rated anytime you want to that the word of god has never been more accessible to humanity than it is at this exact second so i suggest you dont take to preachers word for it dont take my word for anybody else is you sit down and you read it for yourself and then put an end action what uh？

i mean uh whats your life like now？

i mean no your life is youre not here to talk about yourself but you just had better than its ever been i can tell but youve had this kind of amazing journey your whole life in this business um but its im a somelevel its a very very secular business obviously of course。

i was part of it no yeah so like what are people youve known for all these years in the entertainment business think of you now um lot a lot of em i dont talk to a lot anymore but the ones i still do were ten times stronger than they ever been because they know what the truth is to you know i was the definition of what youd call Protocol son grown up with a dad like that and then at 100 years old that takeoff instead of going to college ago at sorplaying talks a live the United States can you imagine what my dad must felt like cant it？

his underade son is playing in bars all all across ingestates and then you come with you know these rocking， hard party songs and all this stuff and the songs are one thing but the lifestyle is something totally different when you go at next you live like the songs youre singing and doing those things i can only imagine how bad it must tore him up for a long time and at some point i remember um is that i got i got say when i was a kid with my dad but at one point my life i had the feeling that i had i had i had bank pushed back against what he wanted me to do for so long that he he stood up and walked out of the room maintain god walk down the room left me sitting there like a bandent is what the feeling felt like and that was the most desolate feeling Ive ever had if you go readinto songs king David talked about that a lot king David had a king David had a a womans husband killed youreah had him killed and then took her and married her i mean thatpretty bad he had too bad as bad as bad and then he got punished like you cant believe horrible things happened to David after that including god left him sitting url by himself for a long time and i think thats thats the way he gets our attention is you you push backlong enough he will get your attention if youre lucky hell let you survive it and we we we just saw somebody survived something and i think our countries gonna survive it but i think its gonna be quite a thing when it happens 行 feels like it， John rich thank you thank you for let me talk about this brand appreciate it i love to keep up to go work thank you！

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