JD Vance: The Immigration Crisis, How Polls Are Used to Fool You, and the Left’s Plan to Stop Trump
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um so where is the race right? I mean, sincerely to the best of of who we start, who is that .

this is at was at least er at least come was a body so this is at least a which I found out on the internet a few weeks ago that he's actually a renter dog that was given to me by the campaign to make me seem like i'm a dog fan in this year. It's actually hysterically to hear these lofty to be like all that dog that's totally not his dog and of course, we've got him when he was like eight week old puppy and we've been we love dogs and he's been a little guy but he's like so well trained and so Normal, like shocking to me that anybody would think that he's not our puppy.

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road with you, he's on the road with us. Yes, we have a whole family appear. My kids are like two two stories above.

Of course they woke up at like four thirty, the ice rack of dawn because they're unlike east coasts. Time, yes, higher time. And here we are in arizona.

So we've been up for a long time. I appreciate you doing this, but not to drink a lot of coffee during the interview. Anyway, us, us.

How is the race? yes. So what is I mean, what is your sincere belief about how this plays out?

I mean, look, I think we're going to win and I think we're going to win. I wouldn't say comparably, but I don't think it's going to be the sort of thing we know three days later. We don't love the result of the election, who knows?

Of course, been wrong before. But in the basic foments als of the race, are sixty five percent of americans give or take or unhappy with direction of the country. They're happy with the foreign policy chaos.

They're happy with the fact they can afford groceries or housing. And they are unhappy, just generally, with the fact that common Harris is not a real person whose running for president SHE clearly doesn't have her own ideas about how to advance the country forward. So I think that we're in a good spot now.

There was, of course, the switcher roof from bias. And even though a lot of americans don't like calmly heroes like, you know, she's Younger and she's not as infirm as joe biden is. And so that sort of invigorated the democratic base a little bit.

And you see that sugar high and a little bit of the public polling, I think, about eight weeks to go before election day, and the public polls have shifted a little bit in their direction. But what we're seeing both when we talked to the computer ris like the journalists that are close to the company Harris campaign, you know how this goes, right? You didn't give journalists and information.

They give you some information yourself for a journalist at least you wants where um and so are numbers. Their numbers very clearly show that she's not doing very well in the states that he needs to win. Yeah but a lot of change and we have to get out the vote.

And there, of course, are all these ways which democrats have been become very good at using both big tech, but also the sort of ballot harvesting Operation to try to squeak out as many votes as possible, in particular as so we have to do that ourselves. And I think that we were a much Better position to do IT in twenty twenty four than we were in twenty twenty that there's a lot of catching up to do. But on baLance, man, when the country's not going in the right direction and people finally remember the present see of dollars drop because takeup pay was going up, I think that puts us in a good position, but we still have to run a race. But my prediction sixty forty um is that we have a relatively early night on tuesday night. And I think the forty percent is it's probably tight but we still win.

And you think that except .

that well, yeah, it's a good .

question we call this but but he's the president. I didn't both form.

Well, I think that look, there's only so much they can do, right? They've already switched out their candidate six weeks before their convention. They've already sort of Marshall the ballot harvesting in Operation, which of course is the story of twenty twenty.

It's not like it's not ballot machines were hacked into the story of twenty twenty is that they really turned on this ballot harvesting machine and they use, of course, big tech to silent stories that were negative about joe biden. They're certains going to do that again, already seeing that right. The technology sector is already fully in the tank for for commonly herr's.

They've obviously switched out their candidate. So all the negative feelings that people had about joe biden don't necessarily get translated on to come. heroes. They have different negative feelings but but IT is different. Um so yeah I think they're doing everything that they can to ensure that Donald trump isn't like to present IT again but there is only so much they can do and I think it's important you know for those of us who think like you and I do, there's this big question right about like how what's actually going on with the people who run the country are the evil genius or the incompetence.

And the more that I get to know these people and the more that I I sort of some time around them, the more I think that there are much more incompetent than they are evil geniuses. And so that makes me think what they're doing, we can see it's all out the open and we just have to push back against IT as well as we can, but not as soon that these people can like. And I just don't see any evidence that these people are like controlling the puppet strings and they're going to do everything that they can. They're going to do everything that they can, but it's not that much. So right now, yeah I think that although is going to be .

the next present and if you get selected president once again, do you think they will accept that? So you concern and yeah, so this is they spent the last ten years taking full control of the was military yes, which is I mean, i'm started to even talk like that, but they think that way. So it's worth saying IT.

that's what worries me. All right. So you hear all this talk about threats to democracy, right? And the biggest threat and democracy in this country is not like downtown ump using legal manuvers chAllenge, the twenty twenty election.

The biggest rated democracy is that the bureau cracked in washington, D. C. Is fundamental missiles with at least half the country. right? yes. So what I worried less about us, are they going to let trump? Well, it's going to be easy, but I actually do.

Being here right now, maybe i'm wrong, but I do feel very confident that troops going to be elected president, that he will be president. I think the real fight is gonna. When he becomes present and he tries to do things, they're going to take him down and try to take him down in a very big way.

And that's where the real fight is going to be and think it's going to look like a few different things. So number one, I really worry about the minute we start doing anything on the deportation front like you have twenty five million legal lions and i've talked about, I think it's the biggest threat to our country. You have got to get these people out of the country.

You are going to have a reaction from the media, from the tech sector that unlike anything we've ever seen, IT is fascism. Come to amErica when we sell people who've come here illegally, you have to go back home, right? That is going to be a major, major focal point.

I think the other thing that I really worry about, tucker, is bond markets, right, because the country's deeply in debt, alas, mer cover body. Hey, 嘿， 哥们， 哥们， 哥们， sit, sit later here. Okay, just chill out.

I know you don't have your right here. He's used to a nice plush pillow here. And he like, what the hell? None of my stuff I know this is he's a very good.

So the thing I really work about on on bond markets is okay. We have call at one point six to two trillion dollars in that every single year in this country getting added to the national dead. And the only thing that really makes that service able is the interest strates are still pretty low, right? They're about four and half percent right now.

If interest rates go to eight percent and you're actually spending way more to service the debt than you are on actual like good services and infrastructure for your country, like that can become a huge spiral that could take down the finances of this country. We never had that in two hundred plus years of being in american republic. We've never had A A proved debt spiral in this country. So I really worry about to the bond markets, to the international investors, the people who are getting rich off of globalization, the people who've got rich from shipping or manufacturing base to china, the people who've gotten rich from a lot of wars.

Do they try to take down the truck presidency by spiking bond rates? And and one of the things that I think a lot about, I talk to the present about this a lot, is when we think about who are choosing a treasury secretary, one of the things the president, of course, it's his choice, ultimately, is we've gotta find that the guy who's going to make sure that we can manage this country through a real time of crisis, where we get the country's finances back on track. That is one of the ways they can take down on the drop.

Have to ask yourself the tools that they're disposal, they're doing everything that they can to manipulate voters. I don't think it's gonna, but if trouble lions, it's not just going to be smooth sAiling for four years. They're going to do everything that they can to take the .

t numbers that interest ate.

I think it's probably the most the most important in the most impact for way they could try to take down this presidency is by spiking the interest rates. You saw this, by the way, talker list trust in in britain. Yeah okay.

Which by the way, like I like list trust. I disagree with her on a lot of issues, but like, so i'm not trying to stand up. So list trust is my person.

But look, SHE came in, SHE had a plan and the bank of england, I think I made a lot of mistakes, maybe intentional interest, strates shots through the roof. And IT took down her government in a matter of days. Of course, we don't have the same style of government, but IT would be devastating to the president if you had this bond market death spiral. And that's what the we're going to have to fight against when we win again.

I think want to win yeah I think I think so too um and I think if you don't win, boring some dramatic conversion development. It'll be hard for people to believe he didn't win because who vote for more of but how do you prevent your opponents from spiking those rates?

Well, I think one is you have to get let me look, you have to have actual smart people in government. And you mean this. IT sounds so simple, and that sounds so obvious. But one of the things that I think we have done wrong on the republic lan side is know we don't like the government generally, right? There are things that we think the government should do, but we want the government to be smaller than the democrats want the government to be. So I think that that actually creates a blind spot where the things the government does, you actually want them to be done very well, and you want them done by very smart people. And so I think you have to staff the treasury department with the right kind of people who could manage various fiscal problems.

And then I also think that you have to be willing to actually pursue, whether you call the tu agenda, the amErica first agenda, you actually have to be willing to do this stuff even when the media, and even when, Frankly, some republicans hold in protest, right? So one thing the president has talked a lot about, by the way, it's not just smart policy, is also very smart politics, is you need to penalize companies that are shipping america's industrial base overseas, and you need to reward companies that are hiring and building in the united states of america. One of the ways you do that to the terror, you say you're going to manufacturing all your stuff in china.

We're gona penalises you for trying to access american markets with goods that are made by slaves in china or some other country. Now you do that, you both create more prosperity at home. You also raise some revenue from the companies that are just going to say worst thing in china, your economic policy be damned.

But that actually stabilizes in a lot of ways, the fiscal situation in this country. You've also got ta tackle some of the big the items that mean we still have. Can you give me crazy statistic? So in twenty sixteen, total federal spending in this country was four point five trillion dollars.

In twenty twenty four, IT will be north of six and a half trillion dollars. Okay, where's that two trillion dollar difference come from, tucker? Now people will say, and I think they're being dishonest and they're being even malicious.

He'll say, let's social security, medicare, you have to fix social security, medicare. Well, of that delta and of the difference you're talking about, maybe a hundred billion dollars additional per year on social security, maybe a hundred billion dollars in medicare. So there are still two trillion dollars that we're spending.

And what happened in twenty twenty covet right cover to blew up the american federal debt and the american federal budget deficit. And we've gotta get back to like some basic common sense in some basic sanity there. And I think if we do that, you have smart people managing the bond markets to treasury and how we're auctioning off treasury bonds, and you actually have a president, and I know trop is committed to this, who's committed to steering us through these very troubling financial times.

Finally, you unallied america's energy markets because that drives down the cost of goods. You do all those things in tandem and you actually get amErica on a much more sustainable fiscal situation. But that's a lot.

And you have to have a very strong president and you have to ever republicans who are willing to go along with IT. And I think that we have that talk, but it's not easy, right? This is the basic.

We have to be good at government. Even though we want the government to be smaller than the democrats. We have to be good at government. And I think president and trump is very committed to that. We're going to have to see how much we can bring our fellow republicans along.

So too, pretty easy, very popular ways to save money would be one. No more subsidizing illegal. Actually, we're not pay pay up to break our laws to pay them to rob or stores.

You are coming to this country. We are not even even free cell phones for free airport tickets or housing vouchers. We're not going to stop doing that. And the second is, are going to stop sending billions of dollars around the world to execute people who hate us who you know when IT doesn't interest yeah what do think well.

it's very important, right? So this is one of the reasons why I seem to look skeptical. And look, I I went so security, medicare to be financially sustainable for the long term.

They are very important programs for elderly americans. But when people say the reason why we can't have reasonable splinting policies is because of social security, medicare, my w, that's a distraction. You're distractor from the reason that we actually have an out of control budgetary picture.

That's why I just gave you the six and a half verses four and a half trillion dolla number. What are we really spending money on? That is unsustainable.

It's wars, rights, foreign conflicts. And you're right, it's hundreds of billions of dollar per year um that we're spending on illegal aliens. Now here's a crazy thing. I've been in the senate for not even two years when I ask people how much money, okay, talk about health care for illegals, talk about social security for all, talk about medicare fraud, talk about housing vultures.

Because even though illegal aliens aren't entitled to section ate, there's fraught in the program, and also their children are entitled to section is so, of course, that money flows to the illegal. A add all this up and then take probably twenty five, thirty million people who are here illegally, and maybe that undercounts t how much are we actually spending per year on illegalities in this country? No one in our government knows.

Okay, i've heard estimates that it's one hundred billion dollars year I elements. That is six hundred billion dollars year I S mates. That is even higher. There are ways to estimate IT. But we don't actually have a good, good ways to track this stuff because a lot of the money talk talking about this, a lot of the money is spent at the local love, right? So if you're in illegal alien and you commit a crime and you're you're in a local jail soul, like we're not really counting that money from into the cost of having illegal aliens.

But of course, if you're a municipality and you're spending forty thousand dollars year to have some criminal who should go back to where he came from, that's real money, right? Or let's take this example. Where do most of the aliens get their health .

care emergency room .

merging groups? Exactly right? So what is the you can go to an emergency room now, the way get sick, the wait time.

An emergency room has nearly doubled over the last few years because we have all these illegal alien who are getting hospital services at emergency who obviously they're not paying the bill when they get IT. Who pays the bill, the american taxpayer. You add up all these calls and I think it's hundreds of billions of dollars that we're spending on illegal.

And this is why I think it's ridiculous for people to say, well, well, we can't get america's fiscal picture under control unless we cut social security from american citizens who have paid into IT for forty five years. My responses, why don't we start with the wars? And why don't we start with not giving illegal aliens a ton of benefits and then see where a fiscal situation is after that?

We haven't done that. Those are wildly popular ideas. I can't imagine that they're below sixty five, seventy percent in the polls if you were to post that question, probably. But there's no sense that any of those things gonna happen because there's so much money behind keeping them in place. Yeah, what do you do about that?

Well, I think what you have to do is, first of you have to go at the heart of the people who actually drive public opinion and drive the decisions at the mains country. Know we don't talk the reason why all these popular things don't happen.

Like why are we deporting illegal aliens? Aren't we cutting off the money bigger that goes to illegal aliens? Aren't we stopping sending thousands of american kids to die overseas in some point, this war? It's because in reality, right now, we don't live in a real democracy in this country, right?

The people who call the shots in this country have further and further divorce themselves from any kind of real democratic action ability, right? So ask yourself, in two thousand and eight, did amErica have a real choice between the foreign policy of john mccain and the foreign policy of brock obama? Of course we did.

They were saying, in effect, the exact same thing. For the first time in twenty sixteen, we had a real choice between Donald trump and and Hillary clinton. Okay, course, the american people chose down trump. Despite every, every incentive and every pressure to not choose Donald trump, the american people still chose down in trouble.

Of course, what did they do this with the next four years, trying to destroy them? So the questions like, how do we do these things? You would have to make the actual levers of government power accountable to the american people.

And that means you've got ta be able to fire bureacracy who don't do their job. But this is a common sense. We take like a very isolated example.

If you were to pull what persons of americans think the va should be more responsive to the health care concerns of american veterans, that's probably a ninety five percent issue. okay. And I am a veder myself.

I sort of the inquiry to iraq, I have gone through the V A. Health care system. And by the way, ninety two percent, ninety five percent of people who work in the va. Are great. But as you know, in any organization, if you have five percent of people who refuse to do their job and you can't get rid of them, they make IT impossible for the ninety five percent people who trying to do their job. And of course, the veterans suffer because of IT.

So why does the va not work? As well as the american people wanted to, because the five percent who don't do their job, the va, are calling the shots and making harder on everybody else. And that basic story is true in our entire government.

The joint chief, s. The staff, Donald truck orders the joint chief of staff to do a true rotation in syria. The joint use, the staff lied to him.

They actually stagger the troops redeployments in a way where looks like there are being his orders when in actuality, they're actually disobeying his orders. Okay, every single person who is involved in that decision should be fired. You have to make of the government. How can .

the with the commander .

and chief, the commander chief .

tells you to do something, control the military.

That's the scenario that that is part of parcel of the broader problem, which is you don't have real democratic accountants in our government. And to get IT back, the people who call the shots have to be responsive to the elected president. And this is one of main campaign platforms, one of the main things that he talks about.

Of course, I think he learned in some ways the hard way during his first four years in office. Is the president recognizes that if you have people in your government who you tell to do something and they disappear, you that's not like checks and baLances. They're part of your government.

The checking baLances, the house, the senate injured this year with the people in your own government aren't of being you. You have got to get rid of them and replaced with people who are responsive to what the president is trying to do. If you don't have that.

you don't have a real democratic cutter because that's the system at stake as that democratic control how voters have any control over their government if the people they have no control.

Exactly right, man. And again, it's way to remind ourselves that it's real people who suffer because of this, right? There are americans who are dead because the joint uses staff didn't listen to the press, united states when he said, you need to do trooper employments out of syria.

There are veterans who are debt because the va does not function as well as IT could, because the president needs to be able to fire again the small number, but the small number of people who won't do in their job. And that same story repeats itself brinson repeat through the entire american government. You have got to have basic democratic account building.

I think that most americans recognized, like, look, we're fine with bureaucrats. Make an a reasonable salary. We're fine with people having a good life, but they've got to do their job right.

When you're in public service, you've got to do your job. And what if you're an elected official or an unelected bureaucratic, you're not doing your job. You've got ta get out there and make way for somebody who will.

So if you guys win and you start firing people who are acting against orders of their commander in chief and against the expressed will of voters, the new ark times will call IT a fashion tache. right? So the questions care.

I think we have to not care you you you have to care about public opinion, of course, because you have to actually make the case the american people.

if you're acting on behalf of the public.

you have to say, I mean, look, it's what's so funny about IT is is the opposite right? Real democracy is when the elected leaders, the voters elect, actually make the decisions, they go fashion. If it's anything, it's that the voters don't get any say, actually Operate. So I think you have to do IT and looked me.

I've been in politics all of two years, but there are all of these really subtle ways in which the media, the tech sector, the people who call the shots, try to manipulate the american public and manipulate political leadership into not doing things the american people actually want. So here, let me give you unique example. Mark this down, I guarantee.

And eighteen months or so we're going to have this is going to be prophetic. So right now, according to public opinion polling, sixty five percent of americans giver takes support mass deportations, meaning twenty five million people. Here you've got to send some them back to where they came from.

Okay, that's that's a common sense issue. Two thirds of americans give ver takes supported in eighteen months, there will be media stories and there will be public opinion polls. Tobacco that actually americans do not support, mass deportations that Donald trump is, are doing all of these terrible things and he has to stop.

It's it's inhumane, it's evil. And the american public don't support IT. The same people who put those public opinion polls together are the same people who say, for example, that Donald trump is going to lose with consent by seventeen points.

Remember that three days before the twenty twenty election, downed troubles, supposed to lose was concerned by seventeen points and set to the IDE. All of the debates about what happened in twenty and twenty was costa was based a tight election. So these guys use public polls that use the media not not even just to manipulate public opinion, but to manipulate our leadership about what public opinion actually says.

So how does that? So those people are fake is what? You're all absolutely are fake.

They're absolutely fake. And we see this. I mean, again, you this is like very nerdy.

Let's like go down this polling rabbit OK. So friend of mind, I think, is the best pulse in america. Every race i've ever seen a pull his way Better than anybody is okay.

So good poll server is a standard media poll for ratio ony for ratio great guys present pulsate. Okay um take a standard media poll and ask yourself like what are they are doing? Those polls are all conducted by what's called online pills.

In other words, they have a group of people that they go to again and again. Again, they asked their opinion, well, who are the people who are going to respond aggressively to online panels about what they feel about every issue the day? A bunch of highly engaged, typically far left, typically people with professional degrees, people who are not representative of the american people at large, right?

Meanwhile, most americans are trying to pay their mortgage and trying to care their kids and trying to do all the things that are necessary to live a life in this country. And they're not answer in the phone when a pollster picks up. So if you actually look at the good pollsters, they're telling you erratically different story because they're talking to a representative sample of the united states and the fake media pollsters are talking to a very narrow slice of the united states.

And again, they're trying to sell us a story. And it's not just again, it's that this is not prime mary to manipulate the american people. I think I think it's to manipulate us, meaning elected officials, because i've SAT in lunches with a number of my colleagues who will say, look at this poll and look how americans are responding to this with that issue. And then you realize that that exact same poll was wildly inaccurate two years ago.

Why are you making your judgments about what the american people believe based on some poll? And oh, by the way, why don't you express some leadership? Why don't you just actually have a view and go to the american people and try to persuade them that your view is wise and then enact legislation in accordance with that wisdom, like that's how real legislation were active.

And I think that people don't realize is that a lot of these polls are designed not to measure opinion, but to shape IT. So there are tools of influence, one hundred percent present.

Trumps said this recently in an interview. We said that the purpose of some of these polls that say, okay, you're down seventeen points was constant. So say, you're republic's ter you want to support Donald trump's je vans. And of course the polls now are much Better um for us than they were back in two thousand twenty. But let's say you won to support president trump and you read a story that says he's down by seventeen points of his consent.

Why even show up? right? So there's a voter suppression dynamic here where you try to get people to get depressed and to drop out of the democratic process, don't even go in vote if the president is down by so much. The purpose of these polls is actually manipulation of both the public themselves, but also, of course, elected officials. And I think that we just have to we have to have the courage to trust their own convictions, to say, screw you, I don't buy the polls, and to do what you think is right on on behalf the country sounds so common sense. A lot of like the leaders don't live .

in the world to come. So you said at the outset that if the current trajectory continues, you're pretty confident you're going to win.

yeah. I mean, you look, you can never be sure. And you know, i've been wrong before, but I just looked, the energy on the ground is really good, right?

I mean, we didn't vent yesterday, arizona, and we had a few thousand people there. And we didn't have a rock star, a rapper, that we just had a few thousand people on the VP canada and not the president or canada. President trump is getting twenty thousand person crowds.

I do think that crowd size is predictive of enthusiasm. And so you're seeing a lot of evidence that things are are are that our voters are the internal numbers are good. People aren't happy with the direction of the country, I feel like of IT. But yes.

everything everything you're saying makes sense that I think is demonstrable. But you've got to think that the commons area campaign is also aware of this. There may be not lying to themselves that may be involved in fake polls design to mislead you know, others.

They are probably cleared about their chances. They are. And I doubt that I I just control believing you're just going to sit back and think, well, just tried hard people kind of prefer him yeah.

what is funny?

What do you think could happen between and yeah.

it's it's funny men, because you know how this works, but all sort of give some insight into your into this for your your viewers and your listeners okay, so I have said publicly have been attacked by this from the left I ve said, look come his own internal polls are not very good right now and of course, the left to say, well, jt vanes, the VP candidate for republicans, nobody in common here is campaign is talking to and that's right, by the way, come here is campaigns not talking to me, but they are talking to journalists.

And then those journalists want insights into what's going on with the republican ticket. They want to see our internal numbers. And look, the journals are telling me that commonly herri doesn't like her numbers. The telling me our campaign does like their numbers. There's a consistency of .

story here is kind of like that. It's an informed .

like the intelligence Operators, right? Like and some .

of them are .

working for interesting journalists, are to look for the politics would like the C.

I, A is the international think I are assure people think ernst are the what journalists are players in the political system, yes, and they do not just close that to their readers and and you see that I put, but it's interesting. They play the role of kind of play covered diplomats between.

yes, they yeah and i'll tell you, I mean, in what the journalists were telling you was Hillary clinton s campaign is confident, but then some of them, like bill clinton, were very not confident yeah and in twenty, twenty they were saying nobody really knows what's going on. And in twenty twenty four they're saying color Harris is feeling a little bit rough about her chances. The truck people are very are feeling good about their chances.

Look, I think we're in a good spot, but you can't take the stuff for granted, right? By the way, as IT goes in both ways, right, if you take two roads, you have a picture, you can get demotivated. If you take two pessimistic of a picture, you can get motivated.

Excuse me, we still have to do our job. We have to go out their persuade voters, right, to go out their knocked on doors. If you are watching this and you want to get involved in the campaign, like go IT and do IT go to downtown drop dot com volunteer, become a door knocker, because we actually can win this race. I think we will win this race, but not if we sit on our asses and don't get out there.

What if hot war breaks up between now and november?

Well, that's a that's a very question. 嗯， look, I obviously just baseline. I don't want a hot water to break out because I don't think that we have a functional president right now, right? I genuinely think that the closest thing that we have to a president right now is common heroes, because job and clearly can't do the job.

The people around and recognized that. And so it's the bureaucrats in como who are calling the shots. If god formed a true hot war, not just between the russia in ukraine, but a Brown regional world broke out, or not just between no israel and some of iran's proxies, but a broader regional war, IT would scared the hell out of me to have common heroes at the home.

And I think that we we have to do a Better job at highlighting. It's not just commonly heras. We say these things about that are true.

SHE wanted to defend the police. He wanted to ban fracking. SHE wanted to open the border.

These things are all true. In fact, he is on video saying these things. But there's a fundamentally and competence to comment. Heroes, okay.

So let me ask you, what was the bite and turn over rate among the people who worked for a joe biden? About seventy eight percent. That's, by the way, about medium for american politics, right? Working the White houses, a tough job Donald dropped, did Better than that.

But I think Donald truck, a lot of people have a very certain, a very intensive loyalty to the trumps. It's not surprising he did Better. Okay, come here. Ninety two percent turned over. If a hot war breaks out, who is even going to be staffing the administration?

If you have a person who can't keep and beings in the executive administration of the government, right, that scary, if you're such an incompetent person that ninety per sixty two percent of your staff doesn't want to work for you. Maybe we shouldn't like that person's president where you watch como, heroin, an interview. I mean, this is not a person who has like a very well developed views about what he wants to do in the world.

She's fundamental a ag in the wheel of a very corrupt machine that scares the hello to me. When that person goes to negotiate with a world leader about a hot war. So, okay, what's out about the substance OK in the politics? I don't know.

Like if, god forbid, the rush ukraine thing becomes a broader region war. I don't know if that helps come heros. Hr, um I almost think it's like to grow test to even think about because hundreds of thousands, maybe more people would be dying and I would just be terrified for the country and .

terrified for humanity. I couldn't agree more, obviously agree with that veramente. I only ask because I wonder there's an incentive.

I think they're desperate. Yeah, they worry that you guys get back and you're going to be a little less human. Listen for giving this time. A lot of people committed very serious crimes against the united states. They're currently surviving government like they have their afraid of what happens if you win and they should be so like do they have an incentive to start a hot war?

I guess that's my question. Yeah no, it's book. It's a totally fair question. And I don't know because I don't know that I actually helps them because one of the things that like even president clubs critics would have to admit, remember this, I was a trump critics back in twenty years.

You remember this, the president remembers this very well, but my balls about IT all the time. And, you know, hear these people who say, well, you know, trump and biden, or both to your tool for the president ene, it's like trumps memory is like a steel trap. Trust me, I know because he remembers what I said about him in september of two thousand and fifteen to like an exciting of but obviously, you know, the president I I like very simply, I changed my mind because he was a presented right.

But remember back then, the thing that they said about him is that he was started nuclear. Now I remember, right, that was the main thing that, alright, you've got this cowboy. He's going to start a nuclear war with russia, china, somebody else.

And even his critics admit that in hindsight, he was actually the president of peace. Now, of course, conflicts break out. Bad things happen. The president can control everything. But he was remarkably good at using diplomatic leverage and the threat of american power to keep the world in a place of relative common stability.

So if a hot war breaks out, my guess would be a lot of americans would say, holy shit, we've got to get back to the guy who knows how to manage the world, not the person who's so accompanying that SHE blundered us into this conflict in the first place. But let me looked in, who knows? By the way, it's shocking how little we know about the guy who shot down the drop in the head.

I mean, weeks later, months later, we stop. No idea. We allegedly have no idea what the guy's real motive is, but do I think that they are going to do, and increasingly crazy things to try to prevent tall's p from becoming president? Yes, I don't know exactly what that's gonna like. I think we have to be prepared for IT and we just have to do everything we can to make .

sure you once last question in is to what you just said, trump gets shot in front of everybody have on TV and the media you bury IT. But there's also you would think of process and please defend on what exactly was that.

Yes, who was the person who did that? Why did he do IT? Why was he allowed to do IT? Is that process under way? I never heard trump talk about IT and never heard you talk about like what when we got to find out what that was yeah I mean.

part of the reason why do we don't talk about that much as because we recognize that coming heroes runs the administration right now and we like, do we trust commoner's is department of justice to really investigate this stuff? Mean adult. I don't think the president is either, but there needs to be a real investigation of this stuff.

Um I think it's bizarre that we don't know anything about the guys motive, though i've heard of various rumors, we don't really know anything about the guy's motive. I think they're clearly were some very serious security breakdowns. Some my colleagues in the city have one a good job of pointing this stuff out.

But unless you have an administration that's willing to CoOperate, you can actually do this. Think he'd be much Better at sniffing what's going on with all these security break down. But I I mean, I think so here's this should be actually in media scandal.

Okay, so come Harris is running against truck for president coma heroes runs the government right now and dal truck came within millimeters of having his life taken by a massive security breakdown. SHE should be using every lever of power to force insight and to force some sunlight into what's actually been going on. What break? Break down.

The fact that she's totally uninteresting, I think, is a real scandal. Her political opponent nearly got killed, and he has not used her government to actually investigate why or what security break downs LED to him, almost getting killed. The media and everybody else should be really pissed off about this, because SHE could be doing much more .

than she's doing right now. But he suggests, like a level of darkness is hard for for me to except what is that?

I mean, I don't know, right? Is IT incompetence is that SHE doesn't wanted get to the bottom of IT. Is that that if the story comes out that this guy was the left wing radical as that helped on all drop and so he wants to hide the motive, like there are so many different explanations here for what could be going on.

But look, man, i'm a realist. I think that we're going to find out what actually happened in bucks county, pennsylvania before the election. No, I don't. Because every incentive that exists in our government right now to hide IT is to suppress IT is to lie about IT, is to cover up for various people's failures.

And because that look, and I just don't think we going to learn a whole lot about IT, we're going to try and my cyc, you going ron Johnson, a great, great friend of mine, a great cyc colleague, a very good job. I know he is obsessed. We're trying to get to the bottom of the feel like how did the guy get with eight, fifteen, one hundred and thirty yard from the president which as you know, that's like a pot shot, right that a layer for a of fifteen um it's shocking in some ways the president truck didn't lose life. But the fact that we're not more focused on the security breakdowns that went at the first place, look when it's bizarre, it's dark. And I think, unfortunately, we're going to learn a lot about until november.

And the problem is that, like so many american Young people in the twenty, he had no social media profile.

Yes, everyone on everyone online, never one online, and never said anything publicly and everybody he was basically a ghost, a ghost who just so happened to nearly kill the future president of the united states. And yeah and it's it's pretty weird. It's pretty weird.

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