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We are honest brokers here to tell you what we think you need to know and do IT honest. Check out all of our content and a talker crosson dotcom, here's the episode. You've been famous a long time and then you got way more famous with a single song not too long ago yeah.

I kind of think that way.

Yeah does kind that way. And um how did you where that song come from?

So too american made to thaisa american. Who have you been playing a music with for twenty five years? We started a publishing company a few years ago. Can start their own publishing company right songs and cannot keep in of herself mostly in house. And you're just .

set something way mi done.

I feel like it's the way IT started in to be done now, but IT wasn't always that way. And you know just something we're all on the road talking about the same stuff that everybody talking about um stay to the country, those kind of things. What we agree with don't agree with what we're seeing.

And you know those guys wanted to basically you write a song about IT and that was you meant to be kind of our version of a country boy cancer think doing your thing you know. And but, you know, make IT relevant to what was going on now, because we felt like I was. Now there was a lot of stuff out there that nobody was talking about are, call them people out for the.

And so I kind of came from those guys and they played IT for me I mean IT was to me IT was a no brighter I mean I was just like minute as everything that I feel at everything I want to say, it's something that nobody else is talking about. So um or at least in our world in music business. And and so we put that out and I was excited to put IT out excited to put IT out as a single um you know obviously when that happens, you see you know a lot of the people in the label or whatever is you know there are like I don't know, see a lot of thousands of people.

The business are just scared of how going to affect my career. They're career, whatever is. And you at some point, I just feel like you got a plant of flags somewhere staying for something.

And, uh, we put IT out. We put a video out that that I felt like represented the song the way I saw IT. And I once we did that, I just kind of snowball from there. We put the video out and you know that started get a lot attraction when I got now people trying to cancel the video or whatever. And so just kind of snowball and next thing you know, everybody was checking IT out, trying to figure out what all the, you know what all the hop la was about and and being a huge song force.

yeah, I say sixty four million views on youtube. Try that. A small town a as of today. So the reaction to IT was so intense, positive, but also negative, right? All these different news outlets, when out of their way, you know something like the one guy and staff had grown up in a small town and like, no, this isn't real.

Yeah I think that's one thing for me. I noticed man was um in this business and just that situation for me, especially you. I saw first time how the media can take something in really switch that narrative and lead you down a path that may be it's just not true. You know, it's like somebody writes a story and they say the headline is Jason alan releases prolate ching racist song or whatever is and it's like, man, that's not that's not fact like you that race .

being addressed in the song.

right? But you know well to me that they can go out and media can go out and put that narrow out there. And then you got all the other media out.

It's, you know, how works. Somebody says, you do one interviews, one person writes an article, then all the rest of them grab ed, that one article, and it's blasted out to everywhere. And that becomes the story that that becomes fact or true or whatever. And IT was just wild for me to see, like how how the media could do that and sort of creates something out of what shouting have been that big deal, you know, I mean, and so I was the first time I not the first time i'd been involved in something like that. But I think the first time on on that level really.

did you bother you at all?

I mean, IT bothered me to sense of like men that's not really you know you you're taking and turnt IT into something else, which I know IT wasn't. But i've also been in the business long enough to know that i'm not going to go out there and start trying to defend myself to everything.

I mean, if anybody thinks that I walk down the was looking at place to shoot video, wet man, let's pick a place where they hung up in front of the the building that would be great for, you know, my career, great for the video, great for the story we're trying to tell. Like that's the most ridiculous thing I ever you know that courthouse, ten minutes from my house, IT, was close yet out the main. And so when you start having people take you down a path of that, he picked IT because of this like that so that but it's I go get my car tags car should .

do you think that everyone who gets car tags as endangered seing winning IT .

depends on who's write a story, you know, and depends on what the story is that gets out. I think I just online people that go and start trying to fun anything that has to do with anything. I mean, I just whatever if they don't like the song they want about a way to prove their point, right? So this is a pro.

That's where the pro linchmore stuff came from. That's where all that stuff came form as that and IT happened a hundred years ago, like I would never thought to go back and and go through the you know history of that course to make sure. And in the south, I me if i'm being an honest, if you go to the south and find any sort of courthouse, you probably be hard pressed a fun one that didn't have some sort of racial issues at some point over the years. I think this is what IT is. And but anybody that thinks that we went out of our way to shoot a video, you know, have some underlying meaning for the video, is just it's just ridiculous to mean.

what were you trying to say with the song? What was my 奢侈品？

I mean, I think for me, it's just know during covet and in the election that followed that and and all all the stuff. I mean, I was just I think for us just looking at what has happened with the country, just you know, IT was just kind of in a miss. We're dealing, remember having our friends come over and sit across the draft way from us in long shares because we didn't, anna, get no closer than six feet for each other.

Insist, like that kind of stuff was going on and watching T, V, people are burn our cities down. There's just tons of disrespect for our country, our police for are all that stuff, you know and IT, just to me, was like, crazy so I living country, that just not what it's supposed to be and I don't know. I was just like, I know that people saw and I mean, IT was obviously been a big conversation. You've talked about a lot just like the state of the country in those kind of things. But um I don't know.

I just think that was really are opening for me during that time to be like what are we do? And right now, like this is so crazy and things that I don't know, you just have things that they come up that are like they're trying to Normal last things to me that just start Normal and that I don't see is Normal, that i've never been Normal, and to just transformer feed me that go no, but IT it's Normal. You have to accept this is I no, I don't like, I don't agree with that.

I don't agree with, you know, man play and women sports and those kind, I will never agree with those kind of things. And if you're trying to make that Normal, Normal to me, it's just never going to be that. So know when I started seeing stuff like that, is just me going like what what is going on right now and I think that to me was canada what what let the views for the song to and just the whole thing so I just trying to say like, hey, this is a and I don't know, i'm from like this just wouldn't be a thing like I just wouldn't go down like this well .

because there is a deeper truth, is not just different. The south, obviously, but it's not just a regional thing. It's a matter of scale, like certain kinds of behavior, anti human, anti social lunch behaviors. Only possible in a big city actually, because if you do behave like that and small time .

people know you know them yeah and why is .

so offensive to say I don't know .

I think I know a lot of people took IT as a threat oh, I heard all that stuff too. Oh, with it's a reference to sun downtowns and GTA do you know it's like, you know you take him to as a thread or this for that?

It's like, no, it's just like, you know, when you have stuff like that goes on small towns, everybody knows everybody that look out for each other, they uh, you know I mean, it's just that kind of stuff to study in flat and and if IT does IT gets called out pretty quick, you know it's not going to be a maybe a problem once, maybe twice, but that's going to be about IT. Like sometimes you know somebody who's going na get talk to, or somebody he's gonna get built with on that stuff in IT. Maybe somebody means about in the back, ali. And just, you know, talking about role. Well.

you didn't see, I mean the truth, you didn't see a lot of B, L, M. Riots in role with consent? No, all big exact .

all big cities, you know and that's you know, I don't think it's any big secret. And in a lot of the bigger cities or more especially their democratic run cities or whatever, I mean, they welcome stuff almost IT seemed like and and that was just weird, man, and the whole thing was weird. And no, and I still don't think that we're out of the woods by far, but it's IT seems like it's somewhat kind of settle down a little .

bit from the toy, at least for sure. Democratic rolled the. At home right now waiting for someone else to take charge that they correct the country again. But um I mean, obviously the idea that they couldn't control that what they come on here setting the money.

So yeah, they were control and 是 so .

what kind of response did you get from your fans that song？

You know, I think when you do something like that, I think I think there's gonna be a lot of probably be a lot of people that were fans that don't like the fact that I stay in for this. So I say this and you know when they can peel off and that's fun. Um know that happen.

I'm sure I did. I mean, I don't know for sure, but I mean I would assume law averages means that probably did some. But I think also with that, he also have a lot of people that maybe were border line fans or maybe work fans at all. I like that. You know I staying about what he's saying to and and so what you lose, you can gain back.

And you know to me, it's more it's not, it's less about the fans and still like that, and more about me, be who I am and, you know, being able lay my head and down at night, go to sleep, feel like I did the right thing that day and that I did my part to, you know, raise my kids right and and do everything i'm supposed to be doing that day. And as a public figure, not go out and the fake until people, what they want to hear. It's like, you may not like what I have to say, but at least you going to know where .

I stay in and that song in the first person I thought I was truly Daniel so I think IT all died and I ve I could .

tell you I love how he he passed away now um but you know he was definite one of those guys that was like.

know the spirit was the .

same yeah it's like you didn't have to like the guy you're gonna pect him whether you liked him or not. You respect him and I respect that his opinion he tried you know talks you in a way that you know he wasn't talking down to you if you didn't think the way he did IT was a conversation and and I had a ton of respect for him and uh got a chance to to know him really before he passed away um in yeah absolutely and I think there's a lot, lot of in his music in that song for us.

I thought her country was the first thing I thought too. So but truly, Daniel, I mean, and Charles Daniel, politics kind of changed, but the spirit never changed. He was always entire authority. He was always suspicious of the man going back even fifty years ago, but he was always celebrate like no one ever called him names. No right?

And and he's a god. I think he just called that out. He always saw and know he just, he saw stuff going on in the world he didn't like in our country, whatever. He died a song about IT put IT out there. And yeah, you know you like IT or not, but here you go know you get charlie day.

Aren't too many more people like that? Well.

because I think a lot of times in the business here, you know it's almost like your you know they won't you do not step out and do those things. They don't want you to run for the waters a little bit. You know they want the waters to be ripped a little bit because it's they don't know how it's gna future career, your fan base or whatever the case may be.

And so I think I did tours a lot of artists from going out and really be unable to say what they want to say. And a lot of times it's artists too. Artists are scared that if they go out and stick their neck out too far, that know they're going to lose some fans or maybe not win some awards at an awards show or something. And you know, if that's the case, listen, everybodys got their own right to do do things how they want to and just not how Operate.

I mean, not, I know, you know all this. You will live in nash, you know, everybody, of course, because they all live there. But kind of hard to call yourself an artist if you afraid to express yourself, right? This doesn't require bravery.

I feel like IT does. You know, that was kind of one of my arguments. The song, it's like i'm an artist like, you know, i'm not a political figure or the whatever it's like i'm an artist.

I think so if I, you know, I do much through song and through shows and things like that um versus get on and you know you have a platform to your thing and it's it's killer and you're one of the best to add. And for me that a music, that's how i'd do nothing. And if there's something I want to say, that's how how you get IT out there.

And so but I think you know there's a lot of artist that are, like I said, just you know whether it's from record companies or management given them, you know what they think they should do or whatever the case may be. But I think a lot of people are, you know just scared to step out because you're scared to lose some fans. It's scared that it's gonna fect their love shows.

We're not going to much money or when in a war here there, I think it's starting to lose some a little bit. You start to see you know guys not not scared to step out and speak as much. I mean, there's been some in the country music world lately, some of the Younger guys that are coming up that been more that way, which is is good to see.

I've noticed .

that yeah yes, it's been you know I would say probably over the last two years, probably for sure you have kind of notice like walls are right. I'll see you over there. You know guys like a cody Johnson and her you've a parka column who was a Young I coming up mean, those guys were out there. They're new where artist and you know we could affect them and they're out there say in their piece and i'm like, alright, cool. We got some, some, some like man of people now that aren't scared to go out and and talk about IT, which is since .

without using names. But since you do obviously live there and body is your business, you'd in your whole life to people of talk about this off camera. You know the artist ever talk about political? Yeah like I want to what I think, but i'm afraid .

first, you know it's just when you're run in a business like that, I mean, it's just there's a lot of money involved. There's a lot of people know when you have artists, there's a lot of people that underneath that artists that work for them a lot. If they get hit, you know, something happens.

You know, I think a lot of people look at like the dixi chicks that situation where you know the whole blush and they went over and talked about blush, came back in country, was like, you had no country radio on all that. I mean, they just that was done for them after that. I think that is what a lot of artist look at.

Like me, if I say something I could be that could happen to me too, sort of thing. And and I think that's one of the things that probably has deterred people over the years, especially in the country music world, from speaking on things. But I just think it's a different time now.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, the dixi chicks, that was the interesting thing. And they weren't entirely wrong about the iraqi, my opinion. But I think a country artist should always be able to speak for amErica and Normal people that the john Robert.

I mean, that's our thing. I mean, the country music fan bases blue color is the everyday american. It's not know everyday farmer like those kind of people. It's like, you know it's not and and I mean, there are exceptions may like and you know I mean country music is is know it's is tapped into the heartland as any any type of music there is.

And so you know, I don't know what i've noticed is I think sometimes you can watch the news or or listen the media, whatever, in, you know, the sounds that makes you feel like they make you feel like you're crazy and then you look good. Man is IT me like a mark crazy here and you know I think it's um you know when you go out for me, what i've seen is what I talk about things or say something or whatever, it's the amount people that are like. Thank you.

You know when to come to to the defense of whatever is going on or or just agree and say thank you man somebody y's finally saying this and it's the blue colour people in and they are the biggest country music thing and it's not you know it's not like a chose that because, oh well we can get more friends because country music friends are like this. It's like my feel and I just feel like i'm a pretty average everyday guy that, you know, same thing, everybody else, me, i'm trying to raise my kids, raise good kids and provide from our family. And you know, I have a lot of people to work for me.

I try to take care those guys. And I know that everything I say is under a microscope, everything I do is under a microscope, and everything I do effect could affect everybody underneath me. That works for me, my family and everything, but like the same at the end of the day, I gotta be able to like late down at night. No one that i'm do my part and and being true to who I am. And that's that's really, really important to me.

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Are extra tour manager how people go on tour with you? Seventy two was .

this number is invading army.

It's going over .

the years though. It's you start, know your own. We first started. We own one bus. I think there was eight or none of us of bus, and that was my first you know, time going out on the bus with me, my band, I had a tour manager and maybe two crew gas that ran with us. And you know, then like you go to two buses and all the sun, you get fifteen people out there, then you got a three buses and there no twenty, you know, just kind of keeps grow. And next thing you know, we're nineteen years in the the thing now too.

So how many buses now?

Six or eight like that. And then there's eight drugs or something. So it's still it's still a pretty big Operation, but we even even double IT down to what IT what IT wants was I think on the night train tour, we had twelve trucks and ten buses or something, say IT was IT was wild, but but yet they were in a good place now. And yeah, i've got a lot of people that work force and it's been it's grown you know, over the years and and kind of become a family out stairs, my extended family on the road and and he spent a lot of time with those guys have more time than sometimes .

do my family I N I think there was what's in here. So your wife who was just here with us for lunch, what a sweet person um she's not a public figure really but he came out and made a public statement about the lunar gender mania stuff here and really got hammed for IT yeah well you know .

when I think you know my wife is very outspoken um you know and she's very I know very firm in her beliefs and it's it's stuff man it's like know you trying to raise kids like we have a fab and secure to have a twenty one year old and seventeen year old as well, you know, I would like. But you trying to raise kids in an area we were talking about earlier where you know you trying to make things Normal to me that aren't Normal.

And you know, when I think when SHE said that, you know, I was just like, know there is a certain group of people that are going to I feel like there's people that are going to take a fence to everything these days what you say, obvious. He said that you know, people jump ed all over that. But I mean, no, I agree with her.

May I feel like, listen now, if you want to be trans or do those kind of thing like what it's like, you're adult and can make those decisions. You are old enough to have the mentality to know what you're doing and know what that looks like for the rest of your life. That's one thing. If you're as a kid, your parents are already and still mad at you and like all the stuff and let allow you to do those things before your of age to like you getting the vote until you're eighteen like why should you be able to do that, you know, or drink a beer until you're but you can change your like this is weird to me, and I think if somebody wants to do that, the world enough to make that decision, hey, that affect my life, whatever. But you can try to make that Normal to everybody like it's just a now it's just like, you know, a puppy like this is just is what IT is you know it's just .

not like that. So your White point was if you're promoting castration and .

general confusion .

to children, that's evil debate do .

but like I said these days, IT doesn't matter what you say mean you know that's the thing. Everybody's going to have different views on things and i'm very ware that um and that's fun. Now I am enough. I feel like people can have their views.

It's it's whatever and I feel like you're free to talk about IT but don't be mad when I give you map in, do you know I mean, I think that's where um you can think that OK all day long i'm never going to you can talk to me to your blue in the face. It's never gonna my opinion as far as that goes certain things and I mean that you there are certain things I agree with, certain things that don't own both adds of of all that stuff. And so but if it's something that to me, that's that's kind of .

a comment since it's a little treetrunks because you're saying is I often say, you know you do you do your thing and that's fun to leave you alone .

if he doesn't affect me.

IT doesn't do you want that's a kind of traditional american energy de that's not the attitude .

don't show IT down throw and try to make IT Normal like that, like Normal as things to me that just start like it's like you're trying too hard to get me to be like I don't know.

it's just it's weird that they are working to shop down your throat. 就是 you no decision shoving .

IT doing through。 I don't care not want to do that cause .

you any problems like internally and nash fill or you you know dinners or award shows or the right man and other artists. But I disagree with .

you never in my face. Never, never now they may bark in the media or do whatever you grow a tweet up or whatever, but never wants as anybody come .

to me in and had a conversation with with I don't know .

me that's kind of hard. I mean, there's you know definitely think there's a couple different groups of artist types and of certain people can't stick together, run together and certain people stick together, run together over here um you know so I don't know I mean, I know I know the people that are hang with the people that you know i'm close to and kind of where they stand all things. And I also know the ones that probably feel the other way.

Is that a big group? I don't know.

I mean, it's hard to put a number on IT just because I feel like it's camps. It's like this part, this artist in that manager and their whole can happen whatever in these guys and that can happen. So you just kind of a know I mean, it's it's hard to put a number on IT, but legacy I mean, I know you know I hang out with magas who are you know IT never comes up. It's never really a thing if IT is, we're easily on the same page, but you found the ones that maybe don't agree with as much, they sort to keep their distance, which is fun. I'd actually probably prefer that actually .

like a really good plan. What do you take? A trump?

I love the roman. I, you.

how you up, knowing trump.

So we ended up getting invited to new year's more logo one year. And I think he was we had kind of started become vocal about IT. And honestly, when he got out, when he ran in twenty sixteen, I mean, I was not political at all. I wasn't didn't really get into IT, didn't really understand that a whole lot, didn't pay much attention to IT. And but I didn't think that was cool, that here's this guy that is really not a politician.

And at the time you had, you know, all the ali stars were going how trumped n for present they were all excited and almost kind of like IT was a joke a little bit and and anyone, and I don't think anybody thought you would win in for the next eight years. It's been nothing but try to just like slain or this guy, get him out, you know, and just all the stuff you watch him deal with the media. And to me, IT was just out.

Now we just kind of started speaking out about that stuff and how we felt about IT. And we got invited to more logo for new years has met before. I'd never met him, never talk to him, never met him.

Ah went up there. He invited me to play golf with him that morning. And so I went, had breakfast with him, play gov. Came back at lunch and sam at the thing and just kind of hit off, I mean, you've been around and you know a and he's a guys got and you talk to about sports like whatever the case is and he just a he's a cool guy and so I just kind of a hit off with him and kept in touch with them. Know last few years and try to see him when I can.

You know that in flour we live down their part of the time, which is only, no, I I pride forty five minutes from marlowe over there. So no, I kind of started like that. I was like we had no intentions of of given political or any those things that just kind of happened.

And then now with all the election sites said the last eight years, just watching what happened and going through twenty, twenty, the election stuff and the the alem stuff and the covet vaccine and the all those things, just like we just watching other stuff go down, like what is going on on right now, crazy. And so I think obviously having little kids made us get a little more involved and started paying attention to what was happening in a segment. I just, you know nothing is I don't I don't vote for and this is true. I don't vote for the person like as much as people may to say that a lot, whatever you know. For me, it's like which one of these groups is gonna take the country in the direction that I feel like I should be taken from my family, my kids and like their future and those kind of things and to me, that's what I based on and I feel like personnel for me that's him and so um you know, IT IT just kind of became thing, but I was never, you know, I mean, ten years ago and I coulda talk to you about any politics and .

I know matter when I just felt like.

you know, the country was doing what he does. I think we can go through its periods of what everybody was never crazy IT was still economy will go up and down in those kind of things. But IT wasn't just like a complete shit show, you know, saying.

And in all the time when that happened was like, wow, we get little kids and i'm like, I got to to see my kid to school and you know it's like we're talking about like the trains or self. It's like what i'd do if he comes home. It's like as a girl in my class is a boy but you know, it's like that's hard to explain to a five or six year old day.

And people out there can say IT doesn't happen. That's a lot. It's happening in elementary schools. I know for fact that happened. A round places where we live and in tendency yeah and .

and it's just like.

you know, I don't know to me that's just one of those things were so like I don't want to have to explain those kind of things to a five year old who doesn't get IT and .

I shouldn't have to know.

I shouldn't have I shouldn't have to explain that to me so that kind of where i'm at on IT. And um but it's those kind of things that made me kind of step up a little bit more than than I had in the past.

Was early downside to being you know seen with trump saying nice things .

about again, you're always going to have people that you know there's somebody he's gna bit about something. I mean, that's just the way is and but I think to you know I finally just made a conclusion of that man, you know, I think i'm right. I just think i'm on the right side of this.

And like, you know, I have a platform to be able to go out and and say stuff. I mean, there's other artists and actors and actress and know all these other celebrities it'll get on talk shows and other stuff, and there's y'll run truck down, you know, right? Their own love TV category fh and holding up a trump head look like his head off you all that stuff, okay, you know, they don't body IT about that, but you know, we start talking out about things in all the sun.

They are called, right? So but that, you know, to me, I just feel like i'm on the right side of IT. And it's like men, if you agree with me, cool.

If you don't, that's cool too. I mean, it's not not going to affect the way I view things or or what I say or how feel or I mean, I don't know. It's just it's a wild time. We use .

surprised to see country stars at the democratic convention.

No, no. I mean, I don't thinks I didn't watch IT really, so I don't really know who was there, but i'm not surprise me. There's definitely that group that you know is more, more loans that way and you know more power to and like if if you want to do that and you think that's a good look for you and that's what you support, bow means go do that. I mean, it's like anything it's like what they do and it's like, you know get ready for the consequence is whatever that is good or bad, just know that know there may be some and if you're good with that and do you want to do yeah.

we believe about your concerns. I agree with that completely. So when when you came out with try that small town IT got pulled right from country music television seem to .

yet what happened.

I mean, we basically sent.

so they get a heads up on the video. We send that to them before ever ears on T. V.

You know what's like anything? They look at all the videos coming and know we're going to add this one, we're going to that one. And then they put IT in the rotation. So they put in the rotation, the song starts when it's saying then, and the song starts to getting a lot of a lot of heat and a lot of the you know, the racist, the racial stuff started to coming up in the play. Will C, M, T.

Immediately pull IT? Just to be clear, the song had nothing to do with race. no.

But the narrative that was getting put out at the time by everybody when the song came out, and especially IT, wasn't really the song as much as the video. And so when the video came out.

because the video had a portion shot in front of the courthouse, in front of which, one hundred years ago, there was a murder.

Yes, I I I mean, there was other stuff in there. You know that people didn't like that the bill and clipsed were in there or like those kind of things. No, there a lot of the bill stuff and you put the january six stuff in there.

And I like you. I mean, it's just like a video, right? It's like it's my video so that so anyway um but now I mean they they pull the video and do they give .

you warning?

No, I just they pull IT and then the thing was they pull IT and they couldn't pull IT and been quite about IT that would just a flew under the radar. But when they pulled IT, they put out a press least let everybody know that they pulled IT kind of disassociated with the video or whatever the case might be. And that was what everybody was like, wow, what's going on and what and checked that out and some people would like, I will get IT.

I understand what the drum is about. The other people are like, oh, I see. I would so I an, you know, at that point you going to see .

what you want to, who made that decision.

you know, to pull IT. Ah I don't know. That would be the somebody that seem the powers to b at C M T, probably somebody out of the main office, probably not somebody in national more somebody that that really is the string puller and overseas.

all that stuff. But IT made the song even bigger.

buff, far off. And IT was something that we didn't know. That was onna happen.

Now it's like, hey, here's our a new single is a video. I thought that I was really cool. You, I don't know you, I remember this.

You remember the Billy joe video, or the song, we didn't start the fire. So the video was all that self, the berlin wall now. And really IT was kind of that I was like, that was sort of the video that I wanted to make was like.

can a bondage that right evokes that period? Twenty twenty was an amazing current event for a five year. Yg.

the state of the country? Yes, this is IT. This is IT in a three minute that shell. And so that was the idea.

And and so I was actually proud of IT, and I was super proud of the video to this day. I think it's one of the probably the best video i've ever done. And and so I was really excited for.

And so when they pulled IT was kind of a deflection. I like, man, really like people accusing us of this. And you guys were just pulling.

And we ve had a long relationship with C. M. T. Over the years. I mean, that i've had some big moments to mccurry within. You've been a big part of help and launch my career early on with videos and those kind of things. And so, you know, even a little bit of slap in the .

face from body called you, I mean.

somebody in the cap know they would call like my public sister somebody in the camp, but not me directly. And I got a call for management and cms pull in IT and then they put the press release out and that's what made everybody want to go and look at IT and figure out what the big deal was. And it's just from then on and I was just IT was on fire. I haven't .

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yeah you know there's a lot of details about that self that um and print details about that. A lot of people don't know the wild night and my wife was eight months pregnant who was in her early and ah he was a scary time. It's like went out to play a show like I always do.

And you know, you expect to go out there for now a half two hours. Get done. Come back hanging out with your guys, get on the plane or bus, whatever isn't, go home. And you know, that night was just a different story and IT was just A A weird deal um you know something that a lot of the guys of my king at my crew and something that kind of mess a lot of people up for a while just kind of go through that stuff and um and in a lot of the gather women been me for fifteen years plus m of milk for nineteen years. And so you know IT was tough and I was tough thing to go through now selling you like before.

You know, the tough st part was going through all that and then you get home and you're watching the news, trying to figure out, right, well, why does this guy do this? Like, what was the, what was this reasoning and what this show? And, uh you know you never really get me it's on any that stuff and still to this day, like we don't really know much about IT.

I just you go and see the after math after IT happen you there's bullet holes in the front of a bus in the d my band bus, the windows got shut out of the band bus. My base player who was on stage, me, one of my best friends in the world for the last twenty five years, will stay in next to me, you know, had a bullet lodged in the base he was playing at the time. So bullet hits the base he's got on at the time. Play in. And so you I mean, there was some close calls for that stuff and um a lot of stuff that you know I had I never really gone away in the detail about a lot of IT.

but I I attempted to get to the bottom of that over couple of years. D i'd got pretty fixated on IT. I'd made no headway at all.

Yeah, but I wasn't there. I mean, I wasn't my show that got shot up in the biggest man shooting in american history. Hundreds and hundreds of people shot.

yeah. So IT was well met. You know, when I went, you remember? After that, I was a couple days later. No, we at home and we were still a shell shocked from all of IT and loan Michael had call me and one of us to come to do saturday night love and I was like me, I don't know.

Like it's like we had show schedule that weekend that we went ahead and count up like and none of us wanted to place. So let's just take a week in the try, get IT together. All of our gear was still sitting on the stage and vagus so we couldn't even .

play a show if we wanted to.

And I took my guitar off later on stage that night of the shooting in IT stayed right there in that spot for two weeks while the I went out and, you know, did the crime scene and all stuff. So we didn't have guitars to play. And lawn, Michael called us, one of us to come do saturday night, love you, a cold opening and all the stuff.

And I sit and listen out, you know, I got some stuff to say, if you let me do, you know, no, I don't want you right and stuff for me to talk about our say or whatever. Let me write IT and say what I want to say. Tom petty had died when we were flying home the next day, tom petty, we get the news.

He had died on the flight home. And so as I mean, just a crappy week has a big time petty phone. And so it's like, man, I feel to let me say what we want to say can to play a song for pet and just like tell the stuff in like it's been a been a rough week, you know and so lone told me that fun, I could do what I wanted.

And so we went up there and called all the gas, got everybody rally up and and went up there and play a show. And i'll say this, I mean that that crew and everybody that was on that show was really, really cool to us that day in like very welcoming staff, which was which was really needed, I think, for us at the time. So they helps us a lot to kind of get over that hurt a little bit to get back and start play and and know that, you know, we had to pick up and keep keep move.

We had a tour to finished. We had another like four to six weeks left the tour to go out and finish after that happened, which was, which was tough. So we did that then came home and just kind of shut everything down for about six, seven months and went underground pretty, pretty good for a while.

And later my son was borne in that time. So, you know, to come home, he was born, which kind of help take my mind off itself. So he was, he was a wild .

how many conversations to interviews .

to do with the F, B. I you know .

any I I didn't .

that I remember. I don't think I had any.

You were.

but they I didn't. I mean, that would. I didn't know much.

I might talk to one time. I mean, I was on stage. I thought we had a bone speaker. No clue what was going on and so IT wasn't to leg at all stage and took wear ear monitors and so I can't really hear anything that my ban.

And so I just heard something sound like I was cracked in, but I was the going going off. I just didn't IT was come through the microphones and just sounded weird. I didn't know what I was and so we got our stage and I took those out in a hurting shoot again. And that's when I knew what was going on on. I D had no idea until I at all stage.

So he shot for almost twenty five minutes. As I .

remember correctly, IT was a long time. I felt like an hour. So I I think that actually, but I felt like a.

where were you during that?

SAT came off sad stage and like him. My wife was late months pregnant so the first thing I did there yes, he was talking to some friends like up you know kind of actually closer to main the light where he was at and um and I just came off and when I took my year my headphones out, I was like first thing I said was where britt and one of my guys goes i'm going to get her and he went down the thing and that he was gone down the steps to go into SHE was coming up so he brought over there to where I was at and that he is kind of honker down for a while.

I kept noticed in the guy would shoot and he, you know, there would be like a little break where I guess he was going to a different window or whatever he was doing and so I was told her, us, the next time he stops like that, get up and start movement, we're going to the bus. And so he got up and started head into the bus, and we got about half way there, and he started shooting again. And I just SHE kind of froze up and I grab her car to the bus, get the back of the bus and just kind of hawker down back there. Um so but even while we're there, I mean the front of my bus and three four rounds, sad three four rounds or whatever was so I mean, IT was IT IT was crazy.

The reason asked what the FBI is that you may not have special now that IT was your show, open fire on your show, the just seventeen show. So you're kind of by definition, a central part of the story.

No, I mean, but I don't and I could have IT wrong. I mean, I was I was a little bit of in a days back in when all that stuff was going on. I don't recall them talking to me um that I remember.

But I also remembred going like I don't really have anything to tell you IT just sounded a weird. And then they, we're shooting, and I was just trying to get my pregnant wife somewhere and get her safe. Like I had no idea where the guy was.

We thought he was on the ground back stage. So we thought he was not just back stage, walking around, moving people down. That's what I thought. That's what I was like.

Get up was get on the bus and at least you get locked in there into, you know, I got some stuff on the bus that will like at least you know, even somewhat of an even playing field, do you know? Because I think we just didn't know what was happened. I didn't know that I was have sixty stories up or whatever in a hotel.

We had no idea. So you know, IT was just, IT was just trying to piece all that stuff to get, and I really didn't have any information form. Honestly, my man, I was playing.

This happened. I came off stage. Next thing I saw was, you know, trying to get off the bus and get everybody out there to to get them somewhere safe.

We didn't know what. I was watching the news on my bus, trying to figure out what was going on on. So even though I was limited in real time, I was waiting on the news to tell me what was happening .

because I had no idea. But to the FBI ever of information for you.

呃， maybe, but I mean, IT, they never call me about that. I mean, they may talk to somebody like in my crew, like a you know one of my gas or something. But I I never get any information as to like the war or you know what the motive was or any of those kind of thing for any, for anywhere, for anybody.

So that just seems like one of these moments in american in history. There was a big deal you will shot no, and for going to be honest, most of them trump hos and maybe all of them really and we just sort of blue past IT. If you think about all the time the media spend.

You know, in this very lurid way, reliving school shootings, and here's the biggest shooting in american history, and it's should never talked about again. And there's no even plausible motive. No one offers any motive at all or any information about Stephen paddock u positive or apparently did this was that I don't know.

It's weird. Know when you go through something like that, it's you know your kind of trying to figure out like man was supposed to be the targeted thing was just an active some god to to be in evil and just wants to do damage to just whoever like you don't really know what that is exactly. And so you get home and you're watching, go and more.

F, B, S. And these guys will figured out you will get some answers. And so I just never happen. And so for a lot of people that went through IT was the what is like what did that happen? What I pick our show to do that.

But but I say i'm really proud of my that went through that to kind of settle back up and have to go out and and continue a tour. And IT wasn't easy. No, I wasn't easy to go out and your plan and you're playing APP theaters and its wide open and it's just like manages IT can be a little unnerving sometimes .

was totally straight forward about what happened and why.

I don't know, I just found out that they can solve all these crazy crimes and all the stuff and here's a garden committed one of the biggest crimes in our country and its like we did that we got nothing you know there's no computer no you know we had a girlfriend or something or whatever IT was and he had sent her to wherever he said her was for money and just a weird thing and i'm like we never got any any sort of anything. I mean, I was just never anything that made you go, oh, okay, I see that.

And how do you get thousands round of rightly minister up to the top floor in a casino.

hotel lunch, a suitcases apparently? I don't know. I mean, you I remember that they had video and coming in with, you know, big two cases for a girl, obviously full girls now, but making multiple trips up the elevator and through the lobby with these big two cases and getting up to his room. And so, you know, I don't know, I know, I know what everybody else knows that, which is think it's weird. What we got from from the news.

yeah. Nbc news, yeah. And they have nothing. Yes, you visited victims in the hospital.

I did. So we played, we did saturday nightmare. That was on saturday, obviously in in as soon as that was over left and flew back to vegas, which was, I think, a week to the day of the shooting. And just one in there went to the hospital and started making the rounds.

Man is going and seeing and all the people that were in their you know some of them had like know a leg wounded up, whatever, then some of them had been shot ahead and like their families are in there like, not no one and just sucks. I was like you, as were at Marshall, like you guys came to hear our show and that's why you're hear, you know, like this and I just IT was IT was a lot for me to process, you know. And I think that was a one of the first things, I think, for me, where IT took me out to be in this, you know, this guy that was just having fun on the road, play and live in this great life and doing my thing, whatever.

I can know what, man, this is bigger than all the stuff like. This is a big, big deal. And, you know, I had a lot of people that worked for me that were sort of, look at me, go on, what do we do now?

You know, what do we go from here in kind like a lead by example sort of thing I like, no, so that was the first time for me that I really had to kind of step up and be the boss yeah it's so big. Um and I think IT was good. IT was a good thing as far as that goes.

IT was good for me. I think IT IT kind of made me grow up a little bit no, even though he I was already fully grown at the time, that still helped me to. I think maturity level was IT was like a really good for me as sad as IT was and know was just like, man, this is, this is a big deal and go to the hospital seeing those guys and just he start hearing stories from everybody in his heart break.

And man, I hated IT. I hate IT that happened in life's just never have any reason for get any closure on what that was all about. Has I just kind of been annoying? And no, it's just well that we can do what we put a on the moon. We can't figure that out. I assume me I knew you're, I know you.

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hesitate before rendering. I've i've been a california lot. There's some great people out there, man, big country music fans, a lot of people that are out there that don't agree was his policies and everything.

But it's like their families are out there, you know they've built lobs out there and they don't want to leave the the state is because of this get know. So I just think, you know, I think what he's done to california is not good. And I would hate to see that the rest of the country looked like that.

Well, I mean, his friend is running for president on the democratic.

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So you you are publicly one after Gavin.

new son after you, 那 就是 highly disagree with the guy。 You know, I mean that you I got a lot of friends that have come from california. That's why they left. no. And you know there's man, I mean, when all that suffers happened in twenty twenty, I mean, that drove people leaving but in droves come in a flat a and tennis nash fill and all that stuff, you know and they're get out of that because they don't want to be there and live under that man. And so i'm just that just not a fan.

Do you think in the end that he's winning? Gavin newsom, people like gaven newsome or you and people like you are winning like we becoming? Is a country going to be more like california or more like where you grow?

I hope it's more like I grew up. Um you know like I said, I mean, there's parts of california that are great man. I mean, there is a really cool parts california.

But I think you know people think of california, they go to L A. And they think of a and the ago, those kind of places, and I don't know who's been L A, T, but it's not a sexy town anymore. You know, you know, it's not good at all.

Yeah.

it's rough, man. It's just like that that could be such a great city. And this is a great city city .

and it's just .

like to watch like what they've done to IT out there and and it's just lack of I mean, just I don't know I I don't know what IT is, but it's just it's not what I should be. And I just look at like do you get you got one state to handle? And clearly, that's not working out for you. So like the last thing I want to have to do is handle all the states, you know, same. I like one if I feel like you get your hand forward one.

it's been such a disaster that you'd think people would say, look, it's not even a political quality is not republican or democrator Gavin newsome verses anyone else. It's like we don't want to live in squalor where people are getting murdered and shop lifting is legal and all .

that stuff but um which is a crazy one to me the shop lifting .

thing legacy theft .

just well if if he's got under have a much you know five hundred book you keep stop him and like says who like what he mean?

We get arrested if you try .

to stop him a well, I like that's crazy to me that that's even a thing. It's like and what you do like telling up as items before you leave to figure out if you can stop him or not like that's the stupid of thing and in my life but that's a prime example of just like what are we doing like what now anymore? It's OK to steal. Laws are not steal and too much.

It's never okay to steal. It's disgusting.

Well, used to be that way, but now it's fun as long you're not still over five hundred.

do you think that people are going to the country will go back to sanity or will get increasingly insane?

I don't know, man, I feel like, you know, tom always has a way of. Like the old thing of like things always kind of a come back in style. You know to me it's like you for your certain pair paints long ough.

They are going to come back in style. And I hope that that of, yes, same. But now I hope that IT, I hope at some point like you clear heads prevail il and people like man, listen all across the board cycle.

Whatever we're doing here is not working and it's just it's a miss. And so until no, everybody kind of to get some the same page stops pushing their own agendas for their own parties and their own stuff like it's i'll see you getting Better. So I hope IT does because I feel like how I grew up.

You know I mean, us born and seventy seven, kind of a kid of the eighties, you know, the eighties were also a man, get to rather bikes, however, the place played outside. You know, you didn't t worry about. And then there was stuff going on. I mean, was, you know, cold war, all that stuff can have stuff going on or whatever. But was I would that wasn't the eighties .

with I think that you go and .

so know you always said that stuff got on the lane biz a kid on and I can be a russian and rocket come through my window night. So you know there's always been those kind of things, but you not just think our country, man, like what IT was found IT on the belief and everything else and what we stand for as a country has just been kind of lost. I don't know. I just feel like we're off tracks somehow.

Is am going to win?

Yeah, I may. I hope so. You know, here in twenty too, but what happened? And twenty? Yeah, I don't know. I think for my son point, there was a lot of you never taking us that long to figure out who our president was.

Yeah so .

there was a lot of stuff going on. You know, in George, you had a watermen break.

Yeah and then was election yeah was .

just those kind of things over and over. And then you know so you know whether there was ballot dumping or whatever you want to call IT going on during that time or not, I think to the average person out there IT looked shady IT looks like, you know, wait, troops in lead in the other sun waterman's break will let us count these votes than all the sudden troops days here in abon overtakes him.

It's like, how is that possible? You know I think there was a lot of that kind of stuff going on, which is why a lot of people questioned IT. Um you know so I don't know.

I think like I said, I mean, i'm obviously supporter trumper. I like, do I think he can be brushed sometimes and and say some things that you know he probably could have a little bit Better of a bad, sad manner? Sure, i'll give you that that figure.

At the end of the day, I don't really care for you hurt your feelings or not. As long as like as a country, we're moving in the right direction. The economies great, know others jobs for people.

When people are working and making money in their jobs created. I mean, is just a fact there's less crime. There's less all those things people won't have a steal for money in in you know see their families or do whatever.

There's less than that because they're work in, they're making money, they're doing well. And I just I saw that when he was in office. And you know that's what one of the reasons i'm a supporter here. I just like the direction that I feel like he would take .

us yeah so you're confidence he could win again.

Well, yeah, I mean, I think you go and look, I mean, there's no have you ever seen support for president? I mean, if you ever seen an army of support for president, like with him, i've never seen that that I mean not not in my life.

I don't think I saw any joe biden, science and twenty twenty. And then in the end he wanted with more votes as a scene il man who .

could barely speak in any president .

history more than barrack obama himself. And I think that see, like a lot, eighty one millions.

like a lot again. And I think that's where people are. Like how I don't know, man, like on a minute. And so that's where a lot of the questions came up.

I hope that they figure out a way to do this election or it's fair, you know, I think you should have know everybody should have to show add. You should be a registered voter that has to show add. You should be illegal citizen from here mean, this border everybody will let in the through the border, you know. I mean, we're going to let them vote like I was network that may not feel like I mean, to me that seems like that's the whole he will win. I think if it's done legally, and I think everything's on the open up, I don't see how he losers, but will say.

so I gotta ask you, since sitting here, how do you write a country music song?

Well, what's the problem? I've always wondered.

I like country music, and i've always wondered, like how do you what's the process like specifically?

Well, I mean, I think for me it's always you have fun in a really cool title um and and kind of rap in a really a cool I idea around that title, you know so um whatever that is so the way I do with a lot of times is i'll come up with the idea or a song title or whatever is and so i'll send IT to the guys I right with. I'm like, hey, this is what I this is what i'm thinking like here's the idea .

for the first to before that. Like what does the idea come to you?

I don't. I just think it's some of its life experience. You know some .

of like in the shower monon use .

its late at night, so i'm night out. My wife flex to go a bit about o'clock. My kids are in bid a clock, eight o'clock. And so for the first time all day, my house gets quiet about ten o'clock at night. And so that's when I kind of start sitting there.

That's when I get I get created at night and I just t there and start going through stuff test, start trying to map out a song or something and and then we'll get on tour. Whatever was in the I first moved in nasha, I moved there is a song writer. I was on a Warner chapel, which a Warner brothers publishing company.

And so now I would go into the office every day, and I would write from ten o'clock to four o'clock every day in a room. No windows. Just sit there trying hammer songs out.

And no, with that, at work you should in a room.

The tale used to work all the time. And now, you know what? If cove IT, when cover happened, everybody could do rights on zoom calls.

It's like you would do meetings on zoom calls. All the sun you could write, you know, you could be here in maine. I could be in tennessee. We get on a zoom call.

Just write a song. How does that work though? You write delray s someone writes the music.

You get a track like anymore, like a protos right or something, just where you can. You got a like an ipad or something, you can pull up a, you know get something go on just like A A beat drum e little loop or something in, put guitar over and start messing around and lyrics and you know it's just it's kind of insecure almost but I mean, the idea, the title the same thing and then you start being .

around the song title.

Yeah so like we had a so my mom, her brother, my uncle passed away um like earlier this year last year from a dementia and so my cousin had been helping you really take care, my uncle for the last few years and kind of just been their phone for everything and so I had a title the day passed away as I meant the title was a song come help you remember was the name of the song and I was just basically like, know her trade no, he didn't know her everyday so he would have to go reman him of who he was and all the things things.

And so basically had this idea, the title and the idea around the song senate to those guys, we start right now and it's gonna a song on the next record, but IT, it's really cool. And one of those songs is just not you know, it's it's not your typical radio song. It's like bigger than that. And I think it's think there's a lot of people deal with that kind of thing right now. And I think that is going to hit people really hard, but that's kind of the way I right songs.

but it's collaborative like IT sounds like there are always multiple .

people involved, yes. So there's usually probably four of us involved in. You know it's people. One build the tracks and he plays guitar, and one that puts my base player he plays based on IT. And then all of us kind of do the lyrics and things like that. They sort of map out like a cool sonically, just make IT cool, like core progressions and Melody and those kind of things. And then we get in and start really tackling lyrics.

And how do you know when you're .

done when we don't feel like we feel like all of our good ideas or go and like you like, I don't know how can write that land any Better that's that's cool and IT hits alone or something that bugs us that we never mean we just keep working on until we figure out we get IT right and that's like, man, that's that's pretty good. I don't know .

how going to get ve worked song um well here .

we got one right now we've working on for a wow it's been written for a while but there's some stuff I wanted to change in and words or music words so it's kind of like .

a song that name checks .

mother artist and stuff and so i've got a really cool idea effort and I just have been about a piece at all together like I want to yet have been working on that one for a few months now. So ah you just never know. Sometimes happens fast, sometimes a couple hours and sometimes a couple weeks.

And if it's one that's really worth spin in some time on you, you'll put some time and want to make sure it's good. If you know it's close, like this is close, to be in a really big song, you want to make sure it's good. You don't want to go to good we wrote in two hours. It's, I get the just up in two hours, then go back .

and just check, oh.

was very good. But you know, I can write one in ten minutes with you, but the cycle be very good SHE is like.

I know greg wrote midnight writer, well, high. Oh yeah. In like fifteen minutes.

yeah. Well, grains also. I got to play with him. yeah. I mean, all my brothers kind of formed in my home, making georgia and from. So I grew up a huge fan of all my brothers, and, you know, they were just so ingrained to that town that i'm from.

And so as I got older and started get on the road and play and shows those kind of things, I got to do a show. We would really like an acoustic thing. And he started play a midnight rider, sim warn.

And so I was just, so I like, looked over and looked at my guitar player, like, no way I miss him out on this. So I just jumped right in. Mean, that writer started sing with him, singing harmonies and self. And IT was, I was schools, the only time I would got .

to play with them. Who are the people in nash filled to the other artists reveal were like univerSally .

admired straight, I think. Is that really? Oh yeah, he he, he's our, he's our got in country music. I mean his you know he his our hand Williams senior are you know living legend god that is the king of of what we do and I think he will have that title forever. He's got that everybody really looks up to I think toby Keith was one of those guys um or at least was for me um reba, I think river is one that you know dolly part there, my love di too. So there's some of those kind of act, some of the legendary ones like that that everybody loves them obviously so the rest of us not so much.

Will you be doing this till your George straight age?

I hope so, man. I mean, you know, I started playing bars when I was fourteen, fifteen years old. And you know, until people use all the time that sounds so good shape as like man is really all I know to do.

I mean, I did this, not played baseball. That was the two things I was pretty good at. And playing baseball men, I had to go to school for four years, which was not, that didn't sound very appealing to me at the time.

And so now I was already playing bars and stuff like, man, let me just go to this for a year and see how that goes. And started playing college towns, college bars. And IT was over. Like, I knew, like.

this is what I wanted to do .

yeah and I was like, I new media. This is what I want to do. All i've done since I was have fourteen, fifteen years old for the most part.

And so I want to do this as long as I can and as long as I said the fans, i'll tell you when it's to quit or cut back. You know, you're playing a twenty thousand seat place and there's only five thousand people. There is pride time to pack IT up, maybe go home and and lose up melt for a minute. But you know, I hope that never happens. And as long as people come out now, be out there playing for sure.

Last question, how do you not get worn out after spending a life on the road, addicted to something massive, a personal life super and healthy?

You know, I think that's I think a lot of times that kind of comes with the territory of me you know is fifteen years old and play in in bars with gas that are in their forties. And you know I was I saw a lot of stuff as a kid, you know go in the band dressed room, there's coke or whatever on the table or whatever these guys were. And I just remember thinking to myself like I don't want to be playing in a borrow when i'm forty.

You know, I don't want to have like a daily job and then come to this at night when i'm forty to make fifty books at night like that. I just wasn't like I knew then that that was a step and stone to do something else that I wanted to do anything. I was always like pretty aware that adam, and always wanted to make sure that I like, i'd try to take care of myself and it's hard.

And me, I went through periods on the road where I wouldn't live in the healthier lifestyle either. Never was like a hard drug b, but I like out mean, I like to drink and have fun as much as anybody you know in their times where you probably do that a little too much. Yeah you know I think you know even that stuff like it's taken me you know IT took me years to kind of get a grasp on all of IT you know, because you become such a creature habit.

You go out and it's ground hog day men. You get on the bus. You show at a place hanging out.

You do, you show you hanging out with the band. After you drink a little bit, get on the bus. Go to the next town, IT. Well, when you start doing that in your play in two hundred days a year, you're drink in two hundred days a year and doing that stuff.

And so I think IT reaches a point where I think most everybody, you know, when I started, now you hit hard, you're so excited to be out there and you're just run in and sort to live in life on the edge little bit. And then, you know, I met my wife and had our kids and you know, SHE came out on the road and started, give me a little bit more of lack up, okay, this more like home out here. Now, you know, it's like IT was just different. IT was a different month for me going in.

And you travel with your .

small children, at least did until started school. Myths is in first grade, maybe started kindergarten this year. So they're both in school now. And so one of the things is want to make sure, like our life is so not Normal anyway that you know what, it's hard, man, when you're raise in kids and you want them to have a Normal childhood, Normal life and all APP, then they come out experiences things they do and that so not no more than I think a thing for us this year is making sure he stays at home with more order to make sure that in school and playing, you know little league baseball and softball and who are all those kind of things do, that's really important to both of us.

And but yeah, I mean, for the last what has been for to see six over the last six years, I mean, we've been out, I mean, I want to say probably seventy five, eighty percent of the time I was out, they went out with me for the last six years. So and I love IT and I love having a lot. That's one of the things about this job.

As you tour, you're on the road, costly. And you know when you miss your family, you missed people. Yeah and and it's tough it's it's a tough part of a of this business and to be in a position now to be able to Carry them out and travel with them stuff.

It's it's nice because when my older girls were little, you know, I hadn't hit that point in my career yet where I could, you know, have multiple buses and bring them out and I have a family person, you know, I I was doing good to pay for the one bus ahead. And so and then they started school in the same thing with him. I want of them in Normal and childhood, not bringing, even though our life was kind of crazy.

And so it's been a little bit of a jugged act over the years trying to figure out. But I feel like for me, family in a place that feel comfortable, like, you know, happy to go out on the road. I love being out there and play and I love coming home, you know, after a few days seeing the family if they're not out there and IT just IT works for me and IT works for us. And it's been really good.

I can tell that husband, which is puts you in the top one percent .

for happiness. Lucky man.

just something.

And thank you very much. But thank you so much reach. Thank you.

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