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Exclusive: Russia Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov Describes the War With the US and How to End It

2024/12/5
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Tucker Carlson认为美国正将自身推向与俄罗斯的核冲突,这场战争未经美国人民投票,大多数美国人也不希望发生,但它正在进行中。美国对俄罗斯本土的袭击以及美国政府切断与俄罗斯政府的所有联系,使得美俄爆发核战争的风险比历史上任何时候都高。美国政府阻止了泽连斯基总统接受采访。 Sergey Lavrov否认俄罗斯与美国处于战争状态,但承认乌克兰冲突是混合战争,美国直接参与其中。他强调俄罗斯正在发出信号,警告美国不要升级冲突,并指出北约和五角大楼官员的言论令人担忧。他认为西方不断地将俄罗斯的红线后移是一个严重的错误。拉夫罗夫表示,俄罗斯希望通过谈判和平解决冲突,尊重俄罗斯和乌克兰人民的合法安全利益,但他指责乌克兰政府对俄罗斯族人民的权利进行了压制。他还指出,西方对乌克兰冲突的叙事忽略了联合国宪章中关于民族自决权的规定,克里米亚和顿巴斯人民拒绝了2014年的政变,并行使了自决权。拉夫罗夫解释了俄罗斯展示高超音速武器系统的原因,以及俄罗斯的目标是保护其合法安全利益,而西方则追求全球霸权。他强调俄罗斯优先避免与美国的核战争,并指出美俄之间存在一些沟通渠道,但美国传递的信息与公开声明一致,要求俄罗斯停止军事行动。拉夫罗夫否认俄罗斯无意消灭任何人的国民,并指出美国参与了2014年乌克兰政变。他还比较了乌克兰冲突与以色列在巴勒斯坦的军事行动造成的死亡人数,认为乌克兰政府的目标是杀害俄罗斯人。拉夫罗夫阐述了俄罗斯在乌克兰冲突中的立场和条件,以及对美国外交政策决策者身份的不确定性。他还谈到了美国在外交政策中经常制造混乱,然后从中渔利,以及叙利亚内战的复杂性。拉夫罗夫对特朗普的评价是强势人物,追求效率,并表示俄罗斯愿意与美国进行接触。最后,他表达了对美俄冲突升级的担忧,并指出美国决策者设想可能存在不会直接影响美国的核冲突,这是不正确的。

Deep Dive

Key Insights

Why is the US driving closer to a nuclear conflict with Russia?

The Biden administration has accelerated actions leading to a nuclear conflict, including launching missiles into mainland Russia and killing Russian soldiers, without public knowledge or consent.

What is the current state of diplomatic communication between Russia and the US?

There has been no back-channel or meaningful conversation between the US and Russian governments for over two years, with Tony Blinken cutting off all contact.

What is Russia's stance on the conflict in Ukraine?

Russia views the conflict as a hybrid war initiated by Ukraine with US support, aiming to prevent NATO's expansion and protect Russian-speaking populations' rights.

What message did Russia send to the West with its hypersonic weapon system?

Russia's hypersonic weapon system was a signal that it is prepared to use any means necessary to defend its legitimate security interests and prevent a strategic defeat by the West.

What are the terms under which Russia would cease hostilities in Ukraine?

Russia seeks a non-block status for Ukraine, no NATO membership, no foreign military bases or exercises, and the restoration of rights for Russian-speaking populations, as agreed in the Istanbul principles.

How does Russia view its relationship with China?

Russia sees its alliance with China as a response to Western hostility and as a necessity due to geographic proximity, rather than a strategic choice to align with the East.

What is Russia's opinion on the potential for a resolution with Ukraine under Zelensky?

Russia believes Zelensky is not a suitable partner for negotiations due to his decree prohibiting talks with Putin's government and his insistence on dictating terms unfavorable to Russia.

What is the current situation in Syria according to Russia?

Russia is concerned about the resurgence of terrorist groups in Syria and the violation of agreements in the Idlib de-escalation zone, aiming to stabilize the situation through the Astana process.

How does Russia perceive Donald Trump's foreign policy?

Russia views Trump as a strong leader focused on results but notes the significant sanctions imposed during his administration, respecting the choice of the American people regardless of their stance on Russia.

What is Russia's primary concern regarding a potential nuclear conflict with the US?

Russia is deeply concerned about the risk of a nuclear conflict, especially if American policymakers underestimate the potential for such an exchange to directly affect the United States.

Chapters
The show begins by discussing the escalating conflict between the US and Russia, highlighting the recent missile strikes on Russian soil and the lack of communication between the two governments. The Tucker Carlson team's efforts to interview Zelensky are thwarted by the US government, leading them to interview Sergey Lavrov instead.
  • US military killing Russians in Russia
  • No communication between US and Russian governments for over two years
  • US government blocked interview with Zelensky

Shownotes Transcript

Russia’s longtime foreign minister describes the war with the United States and how to end it.

(00:00) Is the US at War With Russia?

(12:56) Russia’s Message to the West Through Hypersonic Weapons

(17:47) Is There Conversation Happening Between Russia and the US?

(23:18) How Many Have Died in the Ukraine/Russia War?

(28:21) What Would It Take To End the War?

(36:11) What Happened to Alexei Navalny?

(39:45) Boris Johnson Wants the War to Continue

(45:43) Sanctions on Russia

(56:31) The Chinese/Russian Alliance

(1:02:18) Who Is Making Foreign Policy Decisions in the US?

(1:05:05) Biden Pushes the US Toward Nuclear War Before Trump Takes Office

(1:08:52) What’s Happening in Syria?

(1:13:08) Lavrov’s Thoughts on Trump

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