Dennis Quaid
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And is great, is one of the most famous actors in the world. He's been in about one hundred and fifty movies spanning almost fifty years. And he is at the same time is really interesting and engaged person with a lot to say who thinks a lot and thinks freely.

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Thank you for john us. Thank you. So good d to be here. So I mean.

I could ask you mulan questions, but I want to get I want to get right to the project that's coming up right now about our power grid that you did. Can you give us a quick view what this is and why .

did you do IT? It's called great down power up. And uh, it's about an issue which concern me really for quite some time. I they did cyclone and sixty minutes about this. But IT, basically there is a one hundred percent probabilities that our sun generating with the color gd, at which is a solar storm that hits, hits our earth and at the magnetic field that we have around the earth, and can fry everything that is electric above the ground, including our entire grid.

And this would happen originally naturally. That is what the .

sun does has have that if they call IT a Carrying an event which happened, I think IT was eight and fifty nine. And at that time, basically we had telegraph line said, as far as electricity goes and IT fried, our entire telegraph system that was set up had to be replaced, and the entire thing, the entire thing. And so imagine what that would do now with a very large storm, which there's one hundred percent chance of that happening. That was a hundred year event. They call that in.

And i'm not that into three hundred dollars .

that I would take to to replace all that place there. Wouldn't we wouldn't even get to spend that those trains of dollars because that IT would take out no of the electricity. But you know all of our our entire infrastructure and our society runs our electricity.

We we don't know how to live without IT. You you can. There would be the water in your tap.

There wouldn't. You couldn't get gas for your car because the the whole system is broken down. Everything that were you rely upon would be gone. The food would melt, our refrigerators there would be, and they predict within a year about ninety percent of the population would be dead from starvation, disease or, you know, people gets back to the stone .

age again.

yeah.

Well, that's shocking. yeah. So information.

you really lives your day.

I mean, like to start i'm adding next the .

armagnac ile that ring. Nobody nobody he's really talking about IT and in fact the president from back actually a signed an executive order to to uh harden our grid to protect ourselves against an event like this happening. Obama, uh, try to get that going as well. And IT is stuck in these regulatory agencies that and lobby's because money he needs to spend. Most of our uh grid power companies are privately owned, and you can understand them not warning to spend money on something that might occur, but this is definitely going to occur.

And so I would mean, and this is done from story. This is just a solar cycle to the OK.

This is starting .

just what nature.

yes, this is not what you call an enemy. This is, you know, the sun that we rely upon every day and the solar storms that happen, and they happen with a frequency. And you've seen everybody seen, you know, pictures of the sun where, you know, the storm is happening.

These flares come out and they're reject IT out into the into the solar system. And we just election packets. And we there was two thousand and fourteen. We barely missed one by a five days that went across our path of orbit around the sun. And it's going to happen. And then, you know, once that hits the earth, there's a fifty percent probability of that either being us or the eastern hemisphere who's ever exposed to that is the sun.

So is there anything that you can do? I mean, could you harden our letters?

Yes, there there are simple things that we could actually do uh, to, uh, there could be a built in that would you know not only for the military, which will get to, but of civilian, uh, frames cure to protect IT that, uh, relatively inexpensive compared to what IT would cost if I event like this happened. And over all over time, i'd probably be about one hundred billion dollars about the same that we discover to ukraine.

So but I was to protect them from the russians uh and um be money spent plus also uh the the process of doing this like the space program, you find out all kinds of other things that actually uh help society and advances in our technology that is basically realize protective relays that could be put in our substations and transformers. That event like this happens kind of similar to kind of a search protector that you have in your computer, that since that there's a search like that cut cut off to protect IT frying are transformers. What part? My total ignorance .

ts on the topic of embarrassed um but would such a source of hurt people are just electoral component?

No IT doesn't hurt people. Uh IT uh it's only like the you know transistors um and you know anything electrical and you can melt IT is these transformers that we have I think there's there's .

remember .

that the blackout that happened in new york um not too long ago, uh that IT took IT was trees that were hanging over a power line just like that which caused know a surge of power and upset the baLance and IT all realized on these transformers that um get overheated and they if you need to replace one and you don't just replace one, they wait about five hundred thousand pounds to begin with. They get IT takes.

If you want another one, IT takes two years to get one. We just don't have them sitting around um just ready to replace either. There is really difficult IT takes time. And if you had a situation, sugar, you your supply chains got off and you know we get some of them from china, by the way. And it's it's just tough to do if I .

want to just ask a dumb question. So this an event like this happened in two hundred and fifty nine and I took out our entire telegraph system. So this has been known for quite some yeah quite some time yeah um and yet we built a system that's vulnerable .

to IT yeah but that happened. Well the storms the storms come in varying intensities that that Carrying ten and event must have been you know upwards of like eighty with eighty five volts per media. I think that's what the the figure is, the way they measure IT.

And our system is built to take on like eight votes per kilometer, I mean eight kilometers h and a IT IT won't handle IT. That's what obama wanted. That's what obama did when he, by executive order, wanted to harden our our system.

And you want to brought up to to that and the regulatory people nerve and fert to and sit, add wound up just protecting our infrastructure to eight votes. And so it's like ten times less. There was because of these other storms that came through the only one, I think he was like twelve, another one was this or that. And so they IT wasn't a very worst case scenario, in other words, that they prepared for. And that's what you need to prepare for.

of course. Now you're describing what we used to call when we believe in god. X of god probably are right about whatever um but things that no human can control right but there's a horse mature. So there is a whole other category though of attacks from adversity or ten yes.

that's the other saying the others are scared that I think you know the world, as far as the danger in the world today, is much greater than when I was growing up. I grew up at the height of the cold war. Where can we had ducked and cover? Yeah, I lived in, used in, which was within that circle during the cuban mister crisis of getting hit and would have been hit and by the bomb.

And it's scarier today that IT was then at least we had mutual, mutual anointed and we had deterred, you know, based on that, that we would pull the term because the other your adversary was going to to destroy you too. And today that that club has grown to where it's Normally russia, the united states, its north korea yeah pakistan body knows pakistan, india, iran, which believe they already they already have the nuke. They just don't have the delivery system for that they could reach the united states. And you know you believe a run has .

a nuclear weapon.

I think they do. Yes, you know the russians have been helping them out and if they don't have one, they're going to have one within six months to a year. And it's really uh the we've been approach IT. Well, they don't have the delivery system. They don't have the icbms that can deliver that all the way the united states.

They definitely hit hit israel, although who they are committed to destroying and you have and but they also have their terror organizations and it's got to the point now where it's been so condense early suitcase dirty bombs, whatever they are. You can definitely rig one of those up and hook to a scud missile put on on a cargo ship just off the united states, uh, coast sended up to a certain altitude exploded. And how does IT would they call a super E M.

P, which is electoral magnetic polls? The same thing is a geo thermal event with the sun is you send up a missile, a nuclear, uh, a nuclear bomb on IT IT exploded at four hundred kilometers above the earth in space. Basically, you want, you want, you want, see the explosion because it's an a vacuous space.

You won't car IT. No people will be killed. But the generations which are thrown out from that would encompass most of the the united states and take out this very same great and within which could cause a power outage all across the united states up to months, even a year. And we'd have the same scenario that we if, I mean, you hate him .

to game IT out, but like if that happened, if huge party unit had no power for year, I mean that that mean that be an extinction event for.

like the study, and ninety percent of of the population would be dead within a year, you know, in eighteen, during this arrangement event. I mean, one thing we did in relying electricity, we know everybody had a cow if you wanted milk, and you had a horse if you want to, to drive you, your car, wood work you would do. Your telephone doesn't work. There is no way to inform the public about, you know, anything, anything so you can mess.

So I mean that in some way seems far more effective than .

nuclear weapons nearly that you you're not you're not killing people. And so that makes the decision to use them a little. You know it's not have to you don't have to wresting with your your morals.

There's no smoking hole at heroes.

Yeah exactly. And just like because there are so many actors doing this and there from their terrorist sub groups as well. Who knew retaliate against if it's if it's done from a cargo ship and you don't even know where you came from.

So who was who was the perpetrator and who do you retaliate against? And yes, the the military has hardened most of of their infrastructure when IT comes to this. But they get their electricity. Ninety percent of their electricity comes, ninety nine percent of their electricity comes from civilian infrastructure. So how long is that going to last?

And should do you think is magnified? Mp attacks would take out a lot. I mean, what like most civilian paradoxes?

Yeah, just one what they call a super E M. P. And that that has to do with the the altitude where is exploded.

You for the center of that covers a certain area. Where is if you were lower down, you would only be able to cover that much here. Yes, because IT spreads up in the circle so and just fries everything.

So why I mean, I know there a lot of things to worry about. Yeah, a lot of things are fAiling at once, obviously. But um this seems like you want to move through the top of the list of things.

Yeah I I think so I really would think so. But IT a and indeed the um you know the russians in the chinese have i've done so much more to harden and to protect their infrastructure than we have and so east sound of the whole thing about survivability, you know being able to survive an attack and to attack someone and they're being able to survive when they retaliate and they've got that going for him and IT also makes somebody like, you know iran who is a fraction of what they their military budget is, that know they can defeat the united states.

But I mean, even even a simple term room get their hands on a scud missiles and and a nuclear device so you can really do some damage. And I don't know why that our government has not been informing us more about this. Back during the cold war, when I was a kid, I was in in the fourth grade, we were kids were informed about what could happen, what to do if if something happened, at least that, and also lets get something done.

I mean, I don't think the average person is any idea that this thread exists .

yeah as though they don't. Majority vast majority the people don't.

Where's the climate lobby on this? I think they're very involved in trying to remake the grid right to change our sources of energy and their energy experts. Um but is this something that they're taking up?

No, but not to my knowledge. Now this really definitely this has the world they would be affected to, of course. But no, it's that's all about the fuel that comes a year and power see more whether we call or wind or whatever IT is. But if if you knock out these relay stations, the power can go anywhere, just fries everything. So this does .

suggest I mean our country, our country's populations clustered in cities. You those probably our kind affair as well.

Now we will be easier to live in the country, of course, and people who live in the country with probably have Better ideas, Better knowledge of how to survive after an event like this. But it's it's a scary proposition and there is the education and there needs to be something done about IT and done about IT pretty quick. And these these protective release that they could be installed LED in the transformers, starting with that.

I mean, we have the technology. We know how to do this. It's not something mysterious that we have to get involved in what we do.

This is something like a man project that we had back during war, war two, where, you know, the germans, we knew that the germans were trying to develop a bomb. And so we we got there quicker. And somebody to cut through all the new bureaucratic red tape and be vested with the authority to just to get this done. We could we could do IT in a couple of years. So you mentioned .

third to federal energy regulation commission. Yeah, mean that would be wouldn't be the agency thinking about they?

yes. So you would think that but if that's not the way IT works, get to obama likes synthetic congress and we to get IT done and then he gets caught in fork and nerc because they're control by the lobbies, the lobbies of the energy lobbies that it's about. They have to spend money and um which they don't necessarily want to do because you know that cost a lot yes, IT would cost a lot to think the government should help in this.

And there are so many of them to scattered across the united states. You know they're locally owned. Most of the energy companies, uh, there is an energy company in south care aliena that is a really doing something about IT. And there been some cases where you we've had energy companies that are making moves to protect the grid, but that's only one little part of the grid. Know it's when they come down to they depend on the on the one next door to them and the one next door to them.

I would cure the AI problem pretty quick. That right? You have A I yeah exactly.

But you wonder that is all this. I mean, a huge part of the american economy is based on digital commerce. Digital innovation mean, this is right.

Financial system is going to break exactly. Transportation breaks down. Your water does that work? Food delivery is gone. Your telephones don't work. You go back to basically, we go back to that current event, the world goes back to eighteen, fifty, ninety were all in the dark and the light out.

So you would think that all these other sectors, the economy, be lobbying because they all are dependent on electricity, everybody y's dependent electricity. So if i'm google or if i'm microsoft turning A I whatever, like I need a yes, I specially .

you've got to have that. And plus also just the effects of of of the games, as you know, upon his microchips that uh they're melt IT actually that you know the the largest manufacturers of vacuum tubes.

russia, vacation vacuum tube.

russia and china, they they are still in the business of manufacturing vacuum to, like there are more resistance. There are far more resistant to these. These are gamers, these serious, yeah, in the microchips, do they do they make old, old analog china logy? You know, would work with internet dial up.

You know, horse Carries too.

Probably they probably should be.

Yeah, so, okay, will you just spoke my mind? yeah.

Want to go out enjoying the .

so what kind of reaction are you getting when you tell people .

that A A miles a game kind of like you yeah yeah because nobody hears about IT and it's and it's so that we don't like to think about but it's and I think people think of IT in terms of an asteroid which is on its way to destroy the art, right? You know, that seems like a very remote, in fact, is very remote. And but this is, you know, whether from the sun or a bad actor, this is something that hundred percent chance it's going to happen. And we are just no, nowhere, no way prepared for IT. It's absolutely .

terrifying. So of all the projects that you've done one hundred and fifty ish, I mean, this has got a rate among .

the most significant yeah uh David ties uh is he was a Bruce. He produce souls up for the business and h he's a patric and really smart individual. And, uh, he was, he called being up because he created this, a movie, good dog power up that the name of IT, and as if I want to be evolved. And i'd seen that sixty minutes episode, you know, about the geothermal event haptic like that and it's, I just say yes, because really a frightened when I saw IT and then I, like everybody else, had just gone on and forgot IT because you have we have so many threats that are right in front of us, right? Yeah, that you know, this kids pushed to the background .

IT seems like a pretty obvious .

one now yeah and it's always it's it's always the one you don't see you know it's that get you it's IT gives us feet of clay basically know we may be the big, bad, great predestination on earth united states with all our but in some ways all of this technology uh this highly industrial uh complex that that we build has feet of great because of this little simple thing it's kind of perfect. That was meant that IT is .

terror bb stuff like people .

build this, the trojan horse.

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Looking back on all years, trying affair about all the movies that you've done, what are the ones that you remember most vividly?

Well, the right stuff is my favorite. Why here? IT? Because IT was, I grew up in use, and I would want you you know jungen went up, I was in the second great that roll the TV and everybody they were replaced wanting to be a cowboy.

Everybody wanted to be an astronaut back then and um so you know I grew up wanting to be and them along came the book and I read IT like in two days and wanted to splay gordo cuber because he was my favorite astronaut back and he was Youngest one. He was like the rock and roll astronaut and then couldn't believe that i've got apart and then I turned out go to a Cooper live three miles for me, N. L.

A. So I call him up. And we became good friends.

And he he turned me on to a flight school. And I learned to flag by powow license from that. And still five, five jets. Now, in fact, but I was like the ultimate boyhood fantasy that role and IT took nine months to do IT and chuck ager, the legendary checker er IT was on the SAT every day so and IT was a great time that sounds I believe yeah so you said you were saying of camera .

that um when you started and think your first movie that you were in or around was one thousand and seventy five. Like how long to take to make a movie .

then oh .

IT was at least at least three months you know to make a movie back down because because of the cameras, they would, you shoot one side of the scene, then you got a with, they call, turn around and shoot the other person going the other way and see in the background the other way. And the lights and the cameras that we had at the time meant that IT was at least soon, you know, about two to four hour turn around.

So you just sit your trailer, wait for that to happen. Now all that happens like in fifteen minutes. And so just moves really quick.

But if you're on if you're taking you months out of your life to go to a location far from your home and you're in .

this like biosphere with.

I mean, that take .

its own world, right? That's exactly. And IT, you know, IT was real time. Consume as easy. I mean, not. You see the actors you doing, maybe you like three, four movies a year because IT doesn't take that long. It's not that there are so picky.

You must get to know the other people .

on set pretty well. Yeah, you do. Yeah yeah. Becomes you you becomes your world here and you're it's a gypsy life basically being an actual and you still work a lot and but spend a lot more time at homework.

But IT for decades you must have spend like .

no time no but that's that's your life.

What's the most fun location?

It's Better than working for a living. I, ah yeah.

what are the coolest .

locations to shoot movie out then everywhere I did want its false barred. This was a television streaming series. False barter is that as the northern most airport in the world is up their long yet and IT is where emo Perry is last up before the north pole.

It's above Greenland, four hundred miles from the north pole, like the north, the north star, which, if you know here in our where we are in our atures, you know, it's about like right there, about forty five degrees there. IT was up here, and we were inside the arctic circle, which means you, the northern nights, you see a complete circle of IT IT. IT was like being on another plan.

So the earth is round. You're confirmed. The earth is completely wrong.

Okay, so, but you know that? Yeah, yeah, yes, I did, I think confirm that they had they had a great hotel. There is kind of a touristed t for people to come. We're fifteen hundred people there and three thousand polar bears, you'd like to say.

And if IT, if that's interesting community actually because he was started by, uh, in american, that is good year, good your tires yeah IT was that guy went over there because they had a lot of coal there on on that ireland. And he he started coal mine and people from all over the world came came there because he was guaranteed work. And that so was extremely diverse.

That and IT still continues to be that today it's it's where a lot of people would come there to get like in a at the E. U. passport.

So he had like at the time that I was living there, you there were like eight hundred people from taiwan there. And you can only stay there like two years, and you're not allowed to die there. really.

You can't be buried there. There are pretty right. No, it's supposedly kind of owned by norway, but it's also the same place where we had our listings post observation post during the cold war. If the icbms were coming over from russia because they come over and then two miles from where we had ours, the russians had theirs and that little towns like a ghost town, it's another world tour spot. There is a fascinating place ago.

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So you brought a guitar.

Yeah.

tell us about your interest in music.

But playing guitar music was first for me, really. I know from the time I was twelve eggs. You can't act alone in your room.

I guess you can't. I just give you what to act with. Acting is reacting for me, but music is. I was a thing that your friend is a cat that that was, I was kind of like music acting, music acting, and I didn't know, and I became acting. But music has always been laced in there.

And i've always had a band, and I knew I was never gonna shredding guitar, but I just so I took up song writing. Go with that. How hard is that song writing? And it's question bit hard.

nothing. If you ask any song retards, it's like an affliction. It's something that you either have or you don't and you get an idea that's a song or whatever and you and just it's gone to bother you until you finish .

IT do do you .

have some working their way out if you right now?

Yeah at this moment? Can you play one has done thing you do with in peace?

I need a rest. I would say that was dark.

Play a song. I tell you what, i'll play a song that I think probably applies to you. Docker, alright, as well.

I wrote this because of this Christofferson. He can came a talker and Randy car is, it's gonna out Young. He's going fantastic. But his wife said that nobody calls Chris because they think he's such a legend. Yeah, you will take the call, you know.

So what does he want people to call?

He wants people to call. So now in my act, when I give up to playing the song, I call his wife lisa, and and we all live a message with the entire audience, says, hello, just. But I found that myself, this is about me as well.

But because when you get to after a certain age, after sixty, people start giving you undo respect. For thanks, I look forward that by calling, yeah like all you, your legend, right legend. So I wrote this sign for that.

Please down, come in, legend.

my humble lights not through. It's got a beginning on middle, but there's still like knowing. So what I might yet do, I might .

just plan all the himalayas .

an to flag on a plane. If you .

call me legend again.

please wait into them in.

Please don't treat me special IT makes me feel along. How can I be the simple person I always been? If you put me up on some phone, I quite a american my own, not afraid of failure, so give you call me let again and I just have to see you later one more over, please don't call .

me legend IT makes me feel like I already died. That's just as what a third hand story about some husband and it's probably alive.

So I just keep on, keep on on track year after year. And if you call me legend again, I might just have the box here, here, you know, I will. I might just have to see you later. Bye bye. later.

excels. That was also your welcome.

I love that. I love that kind of music. What how would you describe .

that that I don't know. America, whatever, sometime that one .

that's amazing. When did you write that?

Um but about two years ago, yes.

in rage. That was with the trust of .

violence that was saw just after a meeting. Chris, that episode gotto Spark.

that idea, who are your favorite musicians? He was .

definitely one. Yeah currently i'm going through the franca, a song book really yeah because there was nobody nobody get saying like for I coming is just as musician you know the voice is an instrument is phrasing and incredible you know Jerry loves he was like, yeah was he was one of my piano teachers when I did degree. Bells of fire.

You knew him yeah he was by the whatever doing the movie. He's right over my back going you get a robson. So he was really quite, uh, an amazing human being and all kinds away. And know .

what was john prime? Like john prime.

I was just a sweet heart of a person. You really extremely talent and is such a like a pure musician yeah you know wasn't about the fame and fortune for hand as much as I was about the music and as a song rider. I mean nobody could turn a phrase .

like i'm kind of buy himself in category what, but he never really became a household name yeah .

but a lot of people know him. The and and his music will go on. I mean, take somebody like Christa Stephen, you know, I think that's really kind of measure. You know I think a song like bobbi magi yeah will be seeing five hundred years from one hundred percent, you know but no .

one know that everyone thinks change to stop on that yeah.

But okay SHE didn't I particularly like songs that sounds like they were written by anonymous? You know a lot of those those um uh american songs are like written on the frontier .

that traditional yeah on exactly did you ever know Williamson yeah .

you have .

played with Williams son, in fact uh on stage couple of times what's he's very generous man and I mean, gosh, what is contribution to to me music and he still doing that? Man, he's still doing IT just as great as ever. Yeah you like nine .

years old yeah in the end, looking back on your life, are you more excited about making movies or playing music living life?

Yeah that's that's what IT is for being like i've been really my autobiography is going to be called my lucky life because i've i've really got a chance to do so many of the things that I I never would have thought I could have done. And at this point, you know, my movie career, what has been a so fantastic say it's so fulfilling really. I I enjoy IT so much more now making movies because i'm not trying to get anywhere.

I'm not trying to attain something. I'm just doing the things that really interest me. And you know, that keeps the joy in in life, of course.

You know, do you think that, you know, in thirty years, hollywood will still be a creative force?

I don't know. I really don't know. IT seems to be spreading out. Yeah, you know, we're trying to get a hollywood started in texas. actually.

We will try to break film making a there is as an industry, not just as a destination, right for hollywood, you know. And I mean, the way IT is now that somebody movies are made me california anymore anyway. And a lot of the ones that I see in the previews that they all look like the same movie.

yeah.

if you are really stick by there every once in a while. yeah.

So I I gotto ask that end IT with the question I asked everybody, but was interested. Look at where do you see the country in a year?

In a year .

yeah well.

i'm really i'm really tense about next year yeah election year IT seems that you know more than any other time it's everybodies got to like pick aside yeah and um this is both democrats and the republic and i'm an independent by the way. I always have been, and I thought both ways, according to what the pinole mom I thought the country needed, but both sides, I seem to think that, uh, our country is is going to be doomed.

It's democracy is going to be over if one of the other wins. yes. And so how do we get to that place where we can have that transition of power like we did not so long ago, where at least people could tolerate IT without having to basically have a coup in one way or another of the military? good.

We really are afraid of us becoming like a banana republic like that. And we're the united states of america. We're americans. yes.

And and I do I do believe I think things are a little bit more the scarier than the word sixty eight. Me can date carney, Bobby Kennedy, I was shot. Martin, the king was shot.

All the riots, the cities were burning that but we knew who the we knew who the leaders were back. And you know, now it's it's just this kind of underground simmering rage on both sides. And I you know setting aside who's right, who's wrong or whatever, think we need to find ways to unite and amErica is always found a way to unite.

Um I mean things you back when they will make the forming the constitution and you know IT, there was a guy there was who was that became the other senator in fact, in in the chAmbers IT was IT got really bitter IT was always about to fall apart. Yeah, it's fragile and regan is right. You know our democracy is only you know can be lost in a generation that only takes a generation to lose IT.

And I think we need to educate our kids what a great country this is, and that we're in spite of our way. We don't agree that we agree to that. We're americans. And so god blesses and and, you know, just like see cool heads prevail.

Do you feel that there are cool heads out there?

Yeah I think as individuals where .

we can be.

we have in general we have cool heads. You know it's I guess it's the mob that that would that be on the right or the left or somewhere else? Yes, you know that IT gets confusing in every IT gets really confusing.

I hope I see you here.

I think will tell her I think so too, either hero and make .

great to see you. Thank you.

amy.

Thank you very much for having me.