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word do was a great one. It's do or hard. J due.
So the special was called you.
did you get any complaints about that?
No IT came .
right after all that kind of to. So I was a little worry that we're going to be like hard line on anti seventy sm and just pull everything down.
So you didn't worry about I worried .
about a little bit, but a special called jee, yeah, I worried about a little bit, but I tested IT. I tested IT everywhere. I tested IT. IT was a five year process of like going a place where there's lots of jeos going a place with perth, they like I don't even know what you're talking about island that like i've heard .
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Welcome the talker crosson show has become pretty clear that the mainstreet media are dying. They can't die quickly enough, and there's a reason they're dying to honest content, the most honest introduce we can without fear or favor. Here's the latest somebody told me yesterday that you lead the field among stand ups for death threats.
Yeah, I was the first one to get up. why? um. I had this when I was yeah I don't know I mean you don't know I mean I don't know exactly so I had this a when I was starting.
National impose was doing this like fake fake um reality show pitches IT was like the idea was they went up. IT was all fake, but they bound a box of pitches for a reality show up and like the officer of nbc or something but the crazy st pitches is possible. One was like I can throw up on command. I know that was like I was yeah yeah was just a guy truck epoca and just like parfit everywhere and mine was called the amazing racist um of the amazing race and is just like a super overboard right the kind of the idea I was like that's .
funny but let's like .
to your amazing .
races yeah go to the black you mean in the store and clean outfit .
yeah so why do you get your dog if you're mad? I can see why you're get mad, but also like, but why means you don't over the time if throwing oranges weight at a mexican yelling go back to africa, that if you can see, maybe I like weight, but you're jewish, my ride so if I am going to plan off IT and i'm a comedian as a jew wearing a clan of IT, probably not in the clan, probably not the clan you see is ridiculous anyway so my body ddhs a tRussell who's a great comic and hilarious and weird he early websites he's built a websites saying if you print my friend or share set of a prank call um record IT i'll give you twenty box for the best one this before all that self came out so the national puts DVD came out and then somebody ripped up to the internet so pretty early youtube was like this without context of national laponi just me going high.
R shafer mazing race us. Let me do this horrible thing right now. Anyways, people like saw google my name.
The first thing that came up with donk before even click on, you know, the goole search says, oh, fair phone number. So that was your actually phone yeah yeah. So that but he was predovich IT was before .
and before amErica got dangerous.
So I would just start getting phone calls. IT was great. Like, I can kill you. You think you're so funny.
One of them was I picked up a much of latinos, mexicans, so I want to fix my deck and then drove them to the irs building. It's our yellow. Let me grab. They read what's whatever was that? Nobody was hurt in the making of IT.
but people took IT seriously.
People took IT serious. Ly with, my favorite is the decks in your ice homes. I would just get goals.
All I want to put my ring on, what do you think? I mean, they weren't serious, so none of them are. So when now, when people go, I would been threat.
I shut up. This isn't a real thing. I ve been getting them for twenty years.
But do you think anybody was actually offended?
It's instructive because I got, I will get a few like message is facebook back in our mind space even and I was like, um fuck you, your piece of ship on mexican, how dare you and then I like write back, I know was just a joke actually paid all those good gutty books and took him back to where they work in like nothing actually happened and I drove to a library wasn't even like, you know I just looked like the iron as building um and then they would respond like, okay actually did think I was funny I laughed when I saw like so we went from laughing exiting me because you're supposed to and that .
is what IT is, right? People feel this like moral obligation to .
be mad about that yeah but your real reaction is you like IT.
should you ever get people walking out your shoes?
Yeah how what do you .
think they do?
The number of reasons to dirty is the main. Yeah, I don't want hear about sex, you know. So that's that's an okay one. yeah.
He used to be the dirty comics were like, is cheap your dirty or you talk about blow jobs and that was like, okay, fine. And so then the clean comments like, i'm a well written comedian, I can do whatever and they would just look down on us. But IT wasn't a moral thing right now.
It's a moral thing. They put them on a moral high ground. They put these people on moral low grounds like you're kind of evil for doing and not just like cheap or easy. You you're wrong. You are wrong. You're moral yeah when it's like, but it's the same thing so sexy one sex is one I mean, I member, I had had a at the coming cell or how people walk at all the time the door guys laugh about at the like every time someone leaves crying as you, they walk out past me literally crying and I always .
a drug White woman. I mean, that two, me, what is that?
They were one. They suck. Do you think they .
never have .
any problems? So they have the slightest problems. That is the worst you ever seen. Rich people who like the like, my flight was delated and like, shut out out. You're start in first class and your flight was delayed an hour and your bitching, shut up.
See, you think it's just like any number.
right? right? So this is the worst case scenario, a sliding convenience.
I had to hear something in fund a man problem.
At the shows the man that's with them sometimes is either like quiet or their like you can see them resigned, like deal with a little. I shut up.
I is a month of .
cackle bit mad. So I do a lady walking outside like maybe a year ago and I member like how this later get really didn't notice IT but they're choose really mad um and I was like which joke he was a hola a stuff was a dog syndrome stuff was that the war in gaza like IT could have been any one thing and and it's not all of them. It's the only thing that you feel personally like this is line is the one that walk out on. And I didn't think anything of IT and then I was hanging out how to drink up there and then I left, like thirty minutes later. There is always, they want to tell you that they were right and i'm walking out and I passed by some moment shows you're a piece of shit.
I got meant.
what did you say that I just started laughing in her face and walked away about, I give an argument.
So SHE stayed to tell you.
yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny when they leave and then stay. IT used to be just write a shooting yet review if the service you want to and .
what how do you respond me after .
they can understand? IT, no, you should be mad. I like i'm not combating you.
I was just make a joke. Everybody else was laugh. I'm just doing this forever for the joy. But it's also funny when you walk out angry, we're all laughing at you for not getting IT.
And it's you never rise .
to debate I have before yeah but it's never a good idea. No, it's not a good idea. Yeah it's and it's also it's just a fun of toy with them you know to be like I think you're right and I will learn from this is just fun to fuck with them. Sometimes as IT .
gotten Better or worse, he feels like people are free to say .
what they think of them yeah, you know, internet. Everyone feel they have their forty followers, so like they're celebrity.
Nobody feels like the strikes on is there than I was two years ago been I mean, you're allowed to say more things or their fewer empires or they're .
just we're a allow to say more things to .
know if like there .
for a while.
they're only like four things you're allow to say. Now I hear people .
opinions. Okay, so is ski. snowboard. Yeah, it's one ski nice.
I I don't snowboard. I mean.
come on now. Yeah well, so I was a skier in what? Late eighty snow and everyones, I got my skin.
That's my fucking and dad, i'm a snowball cool and then a generation passed and now the kids, like, I must know, boring. That's my father. Yeah so they go the option.
I, I, I stayed at school .
and they have .
never changed .
you yes. And your valley, you're valley yeah yeah. I can't read the now red snow light down. It's and they take out all .
people, people and they are too high actually. Well, little high is fine, but they're way too high. I know and drug.
I was trying to get on, you know, the thing when you put your skies after you. So I was like, I saw some cool like people let me do that. I was trying to do IT and then I start pushed, you know, and not like trying to do IT and then I was just down yeah.
you're finding extra leased when you fall off the city left IT .
was on the floor though, and if I was pop up my head, some old man just shot my head back down because I was up IT off.
So you think people there are twenty are .
Better than people on the thirty. So anyway, these people, the gentle ked at the millennial, the ants, they are fucked in whatever. And like, you guys are angry and we don't want to be like you and they understand, at least understand comedy, like we know they are not serious.
You guys didn't know they weren't serious. We know they're not serious. So when they say, I don't know, let's bring slavery about, let's give another chance we know your your being ridiculous. We know it's JoNathan swift, it's fine so then they are like, well, now we can laugh.
You don't mean that. Are you ever offended by anything? I mean, you have a red line well.
I wouldn't like try to silence IT, but some stuff is like.
no, I just mean, is anything personally offensive to you? Have you ever heard a joke really .
like ah i'm not into IT yeah that sometimes like I just heard my dad speak with the holocaust and I hear a holocaust .
is not .
in the mood here but but also just quietly leave or if it's like political jokes, I like I I don't get the references here, right? I just not follow you.
I like but how .
you going to .
deal I mean, there are some politics ore void able, like the current one with biden, like, how are you like? What do you .
make of that?
His physical condition is mental condition.
I just hear people you .
seen any a little like .
from people refreshing on the stand up comedy clips like shame had one worries like talk about how you left the stage will slow and you would talk about like i've done that drunk happened like side step .
but you haven't seen any .
any video uninteresting.
Do do you live in this country? yeah.
How do you avoid that? I do not first six years haven't read to watch the news. If it's on, i'll avoid. I'll leave the room.
why? It's hatred. It's terrible. It's puts in a terrible mental state for something.
You don't affect you everyone things you're making a difference. They're not. I mean, you had a popular show on on uga, major network.
Yeah, you also didn't make a difference. Rogan doesn't make like a fire. yeah. But like this idea, like i'm going to change everything now behind other guys who had to reach, we had reach maybe you could because you reach a lot of people I did, but like I am with you, you being upset about biden or trump, it's like, is IT do it's gonna happen regardless. It's like being upset about the rain.
You really think so. So IT sounds like you don't buy the premises.
Democracy IT, listen, I say the black vote matters. One black vote doesn't matter. That's correct. yes.
So it's just like, why get involved in romania, slovenia? They just had, well, you just get back from australia. yeah.
So like they I always love how they felt about our governments. crooked. We can do anything.
Let's get drunk to do the worst coke in the world. And that's what the even like participate australian culture, but participants, the mostly baby powder. And it's the most overPriced the world too.
Cigarettes or sixty .
dollars of pack IT was wild. Yeah, I left. I bought a pouch and I was like, and then I was I really think about the Price. I was like to bo, yeah and I bought t another one and where and I was like, sixty three and like, now that yeah, he goes that so much IT is and that's like, I thought I was like a tourist spot and I was like, fucked up I just bought for.
did you like long cancer pictures on the package?
I did have to trade a pack because of my this one is too great. It's grd, that baby doesn't.
I doesn't hurt me. Well, I wasn't .
caused by smoking. Yeah, caused the ozone.
So yeah.
I just not paid. It's gonna happen regardless. Why why later.
But what about the idea that um if you don't do anything about IT, then IT just gets worse and worse and worse.
If doesn't do anything about IT gets worse and worse I don't know thing about IT.
it's not onna change obligation to if you don't vote, you're not allowed to complain.
Can I tell you something that no one seems to get on my side on? If do you think the system is corrupt? Yeah participation in the system is you considering the system so it's like IT doesn't matter which sides are voting on this corrupt, they both lie. You two party only possibilities, which is what they're revolting in in hong kong, yes, are two possible choices only just saying, okay, i'll take this one. Is you saying, yeah the system I agree with IT and I don't agree with the system and i'm .
sympathetic to what you're saying. I'm actually not dismissing you out of hank because I think you're making a pretty solid point. The problem is IT could get to point to the shop at your house and start .
hastings you directly who the government who vote no.
I mean the government gets in the wrong hands. Like I can be pretty intrusive.
I so ah but like here's two problems. That one is a worst case scenario way of living, right? I mean, i've heard the holocaust ing back my entire life.
This can lead to the hola George bush could be hitler. Trump is hitler. Trump is definitely everybody's hitler and like I where where is this happening? Um so it's like you hear the worst cases is all the time they don't come defraying and also it's like you still unable to effect on when they were talking about going to war with the iran. So like this is a nuclear holocaust. Everyone's is bitching about IT and I was skin and my yoga eyes can lose your last days if it's a good nuclear holocaust ing digger last days and I spend a skin and you spent arguing online with a stranger like who's god onna say, did IT right?
You know that's actually completely you're .
not actually affecting IT. And if enough.
there's a whole book in the judge called the clicks makes this point really yes.
interest the us. What's that he or do you know I do know some of them were like genois. I know .
that word. I know they didn't call genesis no.
So I do like, do ana was like, how? Which one is that again?
How long do you spend any super .
two years after high school? But my entire or high school.
did you think here .
be a rabbit is possibility really? yeah. I was like, possible. What I like.
what do you do and you north, what's the schedule like you wake .
up when and the culture?
Yes, i'm not a chosen.
You wake up, you do little learning that's like choose your own adventure that so that might be like profits, one of the side books or something um and then you pray, then you go up breakfast um that's like breakfast like names or not to one. You learn tom mode, then one to two.
Is this just the independent study reading by yourself.
these classes? And then there's also like, and then also independent. But this classes were a rabbi. Do we had a rabbi who was like teaching us one of one of the books to the tomorrow the tomb you so but I think it's embarrassing, embarrassing. I don't know, but that's right.
No, no.
tell me you call is your mom. Hold on. He's busy right now. I'll get back later right my my stocker that that .
he went by two mr.
Stocker um anyway you've teaching us and then doing that really well and then something went to the bathroom and they they came I forget his name is calm rubber and there a graph too this isn't the right book and he goes, yeah forgot that I forgot that I was took the wrong one like you've been teaching us from IT the whole class and then he just knows IT by heart IT was actually novel .
IT just a different tractor .
was like something you doing the ease and he's reading from f but he's still word for word in the ease.
He was crazy. So he had memorized that.
Yeah, which is IT was an oral tradition. IT was passed down early for a long time. Was IT interesting.
H the Thomas, yeah, oh yeah. So many fun. So not fun. But like, yeah, like, what was telling you a breakfast by the way guys talker carson feeds gets breakfast .
course I .
do yeah what's your pog guys do? Um yeah was like if you actually kill someone, like you have to replace their their wife, you to pay their wife this one is talking about and like A A doctor's wife you pay more than a garbage man's wife and then it's all arguing like is is a garbage man worthless IT doesn't have less value than a doctor and then it's like the argument argument arguing that's like, no, you just trying to like you have a responsibility to keep her way of life, keep her like richness there.
So it's a player based on her income. I like divorce. now.
Do you debate this in class?
You debate, you talk about secondary rabbits who all wait.
But do you do that? If you do, the students say, you know what, I just don't agree this at all are you love to debate yeah .
one hundred percent is all based in like, say, what you think is not right here. There's a phillippa book conversion of the jews. It's a short story. Yes, it's about it's pretty good and and yeah philly broth and .
um porter .
is complaint I yeah um and just about this kid in the ship and in brooklin who was like, I understand if god couple create everything, the animals and light out of darkness because that would always got me there was, there was darkness and he made light for the first time. I always got me and IT goes, why couldn't make a sun? No god can was and say, but why did all the other stuff? How come we can you supose ask these questions.
So there's no penalty for no penalty .
is based on for a hundred percent. You should be asking questions. We should have answers if we don't. And your question is correct.
And a great education is great.
I ask everything. If IT doesn't make sense, you got ta ask, and we should have an explanation. You shouldn't be like.
don't asus. So how many people of students become standard?
Not matter, not matter. There's a couple, but not matter.
IT seems kind of like an a natural training .
ground for IT is is so helpful that the logic basis of IT that between an english major where you think does do and what does this mean um it's just a great way of looking at humanity and then like writing a joke about IT what are .
your rabbits and classmates think of what you do.
Well, so it's it's the religion part and it's also the culture part, right? So the culture part was like, what do you do and you're not making a living. This is ridiculous.
This is embarrassing. Sing, they didn't think you were making a living. I wasn't for ten years.
you know, time jobs and what time .
jobs and worked for the beverly hills chAmber of commerce. I decided, like data entry in different places, moving boxes. It's in commercial. I got start booking commercials for a while, had a weird look that help. But that was like five, six years in. We just poverty, which but that was also great training because now you seem pretty mune immune finances to the dangers to the dangers yeah, you have money but you seem kind of I don't know you well enough, but you seem like you resist letting IT he was talking to you about jack hand or hand won take, he won't take advertising money. So you want anybody .
Price to cover money. I think that makes you unhappy.
That is, but I was broke for long enough where I don't need these things anymore. I would like what I got that, you know, I don't need a flag, private first class. It's it's nice.
But like I don't I sleep in hostels. You know, I love it's yeah, i'm free of IT and IT freeze me up to do fun. thanks.
So you took that experience and did a special on judaism here.
You got ta watch IT.
Why do you do that? I mean.
i've been looking at the stuff forever. I just wasn't good enough to do IT, but I was always on my mind .
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The non jews have seven laws of noa. That's all you ve got to do IT. And you get to have IT.
And they're pretty easy. They're pretty easy. Don't eat an animal while still living should be a no brainer. You don't kill harder for some people, but not others. Don't rape even harder for some people, but most are still on the right side of IT.
I forget what the other ones are. Well, yeah.
it's not that hard and you'll get to go to heaven and you'll .
be right alongside a rabbit. They're like very reasonable.
Yeah they're not like hard wants to do no.
there they are all kind of rooted in natural all yes, I I read that and I when you convert.
they're what you do and you just can make IT harder in ourself. You're going to have an .
already that's interesting. You don't feel there's any contempt at all .
in that there becomes contempt, you know at the end where it's like what you're not in our group. So kind of fuck you, but that's not in the law. I mean, me, jesus, I expect everyone take him, but people, people don't really do that. No, you know, no, you know.
So but the I think I do think that the sabic lauser, you know, like if you're using somebody else to do something that you are not allowed to do.
well, I talk with the loopholes and that special ds, like you actually not a lot of fully asked them to you in this light on cause, and that's like you doing IT. But was my implication, sure is dark in here. You know, i'm not allowed to take the lights on, not just are a loud, but I can't do IT.
It's just suck. I want to read, yes, it's so loopy. It's great. But what was the .
moment where you decided you .
can use electricity? I was in a dorm room in a ship that's closed now in by jerusalem. And there was a light, a reading light above of my bed.
And you can use, actually, like read tomb before you go sleep, or whatever left IT on and show us. And what I was gonna was, take A H hand washing cup is like a ritual handwashing do in the mornings and bread. And I was going to put that over the light.
IT was because this like a little ball, and I was going put over that draw light. So we light still on, is drowned out. The cup kept falling.
Cap, putting them on there, a cap, because is around the bate. They just kept falling off on wednesday on and the light was in my eye and IT was frustrated. You wanted sleep and you can't and at some point I was like, i'm just onna, turn them off friday night, a model out.
But then my so that the interest to the achievable was like, right here, my window was right here so anyone coming in out would see my life go off and maybe like, we're all these super auth doctus, no light can go on off. We'll notice that on a friday night and I was like, fuck, i'll get caught. I get in trouble.
I do this. So I didn't do IT. I didn't even do IT didn't break any law. But I thought about IT for like a couple years. The fact that I was more worried about a man getting me in trouble than god when it's god's law is not man's law um j walking, sure i'll make look for a cup what I do know but the sad stuff, that's all just god.
I shouldn't give a fuck about juice seeing me um is I in the tour as I got a worst punishment for someone whose steals in secrecy? Y then this steals brazenly because at least dealing in brazenly exactly you're not worried about man cash exactly like got either way. But but I don't think about men.
So the fact that I was more worried about people getting me in trouble than god and I was thought about was like, I don't think I believe in him or I wouldn't. I've done IT if I believe there was this, like you all men and heaven saying, don't do this, you will be bad for your mortal soul. I just wouldn't do IT compared to like if you're dads in the room, you don't master bate because you believe he's real first and his reaction is pretty obvious what I would be but you're not just going to start joke. Look out the five how do you know you are real that hit, you know you are a hundred percent show is real. I wasn't sure god was real, and I was just like, and then I just looked more and more, and I was like to come out.
Maybe the lesson is you care too much, other people think, but I mean.
that's another way to look at yeah yeah so anyway, and my friends got met, but I they can't see religions like, well, if you don't believe god, take the ta the whole day sacred scroll and like, throw out on the floor, which is like, if you see IT all too fast for I can know how long and I I think I was still respect you guys much like it's so rude they .
will told your friends .
killed you of them some were angry somewhere like disappointed. Nobody was like, cool. Nobody would your .
parents say .
pretty mad. They were like what you're going to lose the culture they're all fine now so in hindsight is fine, but they're totally fine now just like but in time to like what the fuck they were really map IT was like, yeah that was like even a dog believes in god lower than a dog do they say .
yeah yeah but .
I was like showing that research got you talking about that a study on that um but totally find out so how did you do .
want to go to stand up from there?
I always kind of liked being the joker, and my friend amy waller was, he was like, you should try to try stand up SHE.
move back from his rail.
move back from his role once university maryland, a couple of years. Now, first, once you achieve the university in new york, that's why I kind like fully lost the religion. Now like what's the point of panning for a service curriculum?
Yeah of course color. So I switch. The state school got laid for the first time ever. Yeah, he was fucked in.
Its nice you haven't .
tried IT. It's a um in no no, I have so .
you and all the way out then little .
too much like me you know it's like fucking in a mayor. It's it's not the best like i'm legally not allowed to join and others yeah I went yeah I just had he was not so create, got a blow job.
Did you call your friend's back in even town?
No I did not. I did not with my friends with a couple still um but not many a different world now busy of kids that all .
how many of them got married? All of them, all of them. So everybody is married.
Everybody gets married. I have kids. Sister, I married at twenty.
Wasn't that like crazy? IT was just like a touch early. But not really.
But all those matters to survive really do right? It's interest. I notice that yeah, what's a divorce? right?
So we had one divorced couple growing up in my neighbor, d and was like, wow, can you believe IT are divorced? We thought I was so nuts. And when I got to the universe, maryland, and everybody's parents were split, and I was like.
what? So what works Better?
And I guess is what you're looking for in your marriage. When is just a union to like be a family unit and raise kids is important. Things like this fun is works for that or it's like, do I want fulfilment? And like you don't .
think they're fulfilled.
I think if you're all you want his family and yeah you're fulfilled, you're got a great family, you know you're part of the community. But if you're like, yes, they say that like a pym's sageness juice m because of women just stayed home. But I like no there to raise the family.
It's not like you're not allowed to work. It's like this is your part. This is his part. He's raising money for the family. You do you think lot of mother .
secretly want to work at banks? No.
yeah, exactly. That doesn't fun and it's volunteer.
You don't have to join this lifetime ll right?
yeah. Well, if you raise any you can do was not legal way. But you know.
do you ever have any regrets? He didn't .
become a rabbit. No, no, no, I am. Have a great time.
Some of them will look down on me and like you'll be me, like you'll be back and like, talk down. He has fucked and suck. You don't think you will be back.
No, what to what? I don't know. I didn't your jack sock that's totally illegal in that religion is IT really? Yeah, it's wasting seed sex is illegal. Wasting seed columns are illegal.
But the sheep thing is not real.
Shit thinks not real. The sole in our shipper due on youtube now so you .
got to the bottom of the sheep room .
or I was fault that how strong a rumor was. I was fool.
did you ever talk? no. But I thought I had a .
rapper who definitely did IT and and my family, I got a false memory. No way, because IT doesn't exist.
Who spread that rumor? That's a pretty I think .
IT comes from seat seat. It's like this went so this six urgent thirteen commandments, I lived in this for fuck in five years. I forgot about all of IT. And then I lived in IT for five years trying to like go over the stuff again. And I just put IT behind me again when you mention tom and I brought up signs outside like I don't know where .
that came from yeah I don't know what the timing was yeah until pretty recently, i'm reading and I actually .
to think it's really interesting. It's very interest. But so one of the command to some of them, big temple base, so you just can't need more who don't have a temple.
not in seventy, eighty.
they're going to have another one that they say. They say so those laws will be back. But if you try to do as many as you can, their good deeds and their baddies but they are all like commandments um six hundred thirty of and one of them is if you have a four corner government pongo, you have to tie these tastes strings coming up so they make themselves a four corner government so that they can do that commandment, you know.
And IT looks like A T shirt underneath knees, a shirt. It's like you don't even need you, but you like, here's our chance to wear IT have you one one? Oh yeah, all the time is IT comfortable.
It's neither .
here another because between t shirt in your overshort so you .
be barely even if .
you're ring three layers yeah a lot what .
they smell they don't fuck and what what is that?
It's just like so as expensive.
So I always thought that that was a big a tree from from secularity.
No, they do smell a lot. It's also like you are just in the .
summer time.
H disgusting.
It's like fuck in yangon.
That's actually true. Yeah yeah. The your sup television there are more .
shower centric a mac.
It's not when you get up the road from television, it's a one day row of them. And then you should you get over that hill, it's pocket. It's our costing .
part.
Yeah three religions they are going to have coming together on one little small area and old, take two different kinds of Christian pretty, the .
armenians.
But in the old city it's like, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I don't know enough about.
Do you still have your efforts anyway?
So here's where I came from now and that but like so you where they are working, I think they're hang enough to dry and it's a sheet with a neck all in IT. yes. And I think just some racist were like they ably fucked to that.
That's what that just cut. Interesting yeah. And the whole is so big that man IT took .
you five years to write that that special .
yeah yeah. And some of the jokes even older.
What's your process for ready on?
This one is way different because I had to, I never have to fact check my my jokes. I can be an idiot in my jokes. I can Normally am allowed to say David trump and people like it's trun. It's fine if I don't get the facts wrong, you know I can be a more and it's actually sometimes I tried to like this speak so that like don't trust me on this i'm not an expert. I'm just making fun of IT so i'll try to like the in .
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IT do you write out by hand?
No, no, no. I just like I started this one was I would go the seller, the common sales had a small room and I would do an hour and I would like like twenty two minutes someone, noah and the flood, that's where to start with.
You became my closer in the end um and then a couple of other bits and then I said, okay, i've boredly set up now that I can make jokes about this stuff you guys see i'm not serious about do you have any questions about you so you want to know like anything I will answer IT and i'll try to raise and make IT funny some might do with this guy done barras a long time, but we do ask a je. We call a DNA a late night of the comedy store and I started with, okay, you know, I could be a resource and then all the commuters were sit around the room and that had asked questions. So first I was like, um how many comments are there? I A good question.
Three hundred thirteen. Okay, someone else, I guess question like, if you supposed to such good writers, why is the diary and Franks so fucking in boring? Okay, well, it's the best allow for pocket on educational call for thirty years or fifty years.
So you're wrong about that. Hey, what is in the place of your soul back up, right? Well, a rudo, but say that there is no such thing as a soul, but diamonds dimension, go there and then we just fuck around a case if we get people complaining.
That was so rude, but I was all just comedians. Ja, yeah. Jui IT was a lot of fun.
Do you still talk to the jack of the birth? Like that's a bit offensive. But as all my friends, IT was so fun.
Late night of the store was so fun. 对, yes。 So as a mod person, would you say, I don't like that. Stop you there. Um we have we done this thing at the end of IT where um done what to go, he would run IT in the lake. I saw A, I saw a documentary on on the hole didn't didn't seem that bad.
Seems like you guys we're exaggerating like I don't know md was what was the documentary? Y go was called hogans heroes seem like bumbling OS doesn't seem like they could do that stuff. We had a smelter.
He goes, can you are? Can you smell money? And I was like, yeah OK. Um yes, just one of the things we have. And then we're set up ahead of time. He was like, I only three bills, one and twenty and one hundred and then he, like, crumbled up in turn and but we all knew the order so the crowd didn't know and I smell like, that's like, that's like, it's a nudie he and .
the saddle ther yeah was like.
because that is like A I think it's twenty and like, I got one in three shot, you know and then then the hundred. But I love that smell I don't know that dad is and then he showed the one lot of my face. Yeah, so wait, what was I going with this? Fuck you, how you write IT, oh, right.
So I just asked people so kind of birth from that. I ask you what questions you have and sometimes like, what's with the weeks? okay? Well, it's a luu, paul. You can be attracted to your neighbors wife so hair some you attracted to so you cover up your hair so it's not your hair.
It's some fucking asian ladies here, you know which is actually Better here so it's sweet but it's not you, it's songs and you just do so about what the what of the pillows and like, what pillows would you just fucked and bag you have your for your taller filling that you Carry IT looks like a pillow to them I never is just so was a way of looking at stuff like and so the same questions will come up over and over again and i'd rift try to be funny them like at the same question keeps coming up. This is something I should cover and if a question came up once ever then i'm like, alright, there's just one guy. One of is like, why just afraid of cat and like that was just one, do you know bro that's not a story time.
That was just one. And so I would just try to cover every that's not a thing. Hundred thousand is not a thing. Um so yeah, I just tried and then I would try to tweak k IT and tweak IT and tweak IT and then I have to do the thing where, like I just see I was wrong, which I don't ever do when I stand up but I had to be correct I couldn't be wrong and religion yeah yeah yeah.
So like I started doing a bit about fucking to a home sheet and then my friend was like, that's not a true of thing like fuck I had other rabbi, had a giant bit a closer about noa and and his his forty forty children. And I was wife was a wheel hero because our police, he must have been blown out. And then rabbi and copenhagen was, I pay, loved that the whole thing.
He didn't have forty kids. Like, no, he did. No, had two, two sons. I forget, two sons of three dollars whatever yeah .
yeah and their husbands .
yeah and he was like, he just was in forty like now because I don't mind, I don't care. I'm just telling I love the whole thing. I just telling you that wasn't that sound right? And I had to lose that. I had to lose a fuck in five minute, like crushing chunk, because IT wasn't correct. And the other bit I was doing, I just like, as I got.
I made up a detail. But why were you factory cking your own stuff?
IT had to be because I was doing a thing about a religion. I was doing a factual information hour.
which i've never done to do any complaints. But like real ones, any campaigns against you that .
actually melbourne was that thing of, like this is hate speech or calling them in bread. And like now it's loving all the order that actually SE, I thought, was like little too much cursing for my taste. But nothing's really wrong in here. It's it's respectful.
So who is saying that .
he was a love letter to my religion?
我会 给 的 in my .
artistic way in the comedy。
But people do you think people can smell the intent behind?
So is like a couple outliers, like, let's look for some angry in the world, which is like, that's all of twitter. I know how have many people get off? Twitter were so long and no sucessful and and it's like people know what ill mosque is finding back not know this way predates he hasn't gotten rid the negativity on there hey, look, this is cool telephone book. You know, a lot of people die and making me that there's a lot of trees to go around and it's like, jesus s you guys can find a fuck in terrible and everything.
So do you use the international?
yeah. I mean, yeah. Do you know to see if, like a pill you found in your closet, good that spine, spend time .
looking people's opinions?
No, you still see IT that IT seeps through and you're an instagram. And just like you see people wearing in on stuff and just like IT comes india like what you think of the world.
So you think that the reason everybody hates everybody else is because the internet yeah.
I didn't understand at that. You saw that movie, that half documentary, a little bit of like whatever, like what to called the social experiment. And you should see IT. So the acting parts are kind of hockey. But IT does illustrate, like in real time, what this would be like, somebody like lost in their phone as this chicky likes is like looking for someone to talk to and he's like lost on IT. So it's just a little acting scene but it's just like one possible reason why you getting lost on this instead of talking to your neighbor the bus. You're like like me yeah it's like and these are the light problems when I moved to to new york because I can make friends and my friend was like, go to bar or a beer drink IT at a regular pace or another one middle through the second beer, you'll be talking to someone yeah those that time is done. Is that really yeah you look up to talk, they're down their phone and then then they look up to talk and you're on your phone and you just keep missing the connection.
It's like what has have been been a bn a while that's depressed.
It's the rest. Yeah no one's open to meeting to people and holes in like southwest asia. Still I hear there's slip in, but like it's still that I can't afford an internet plan.
so. Yeah, for a while I got rid of my smart phone out a flip phone for a while. And so you're .
like ted cosine ski leolin I tech .
now i'm on a smart phone now. It's ruling my life. I'm not present. I'm wasting time. I was right. You look at your time used on on an iphone IT tells you you think they recover.
If it's over forty five minutes a day, it's too much and it's for most people betwen four and eight hours every day that you're wasting eight hours sleeping, two hours is eating. So that's ten. You have fourteen hours left and four, just eight of those are staring at a fuck in screen.
It's we're all, we're all losing IT. We're all losing our lives. You should just become on a friend.
You IT do you call friends?
Sometimes it's found me, do you have your old friends when you like text? And I text back, text, text back. And they should, they could just talk IT out and you like, this is what I should be. So when I had a flip phone IT was this, you know, you'd missed the button, you'd missed the tea and you have to go around again and and keep IT and to you get the right letter and txt forever the text, anything over two senses i'm just going to call you .
and deal with IT see .
you don't text no, I am a smart phone now. So now I test constantly. But when I had that flip on, I was fucking, I got a lot to do IT.
I got a fuck and go back, why you get off. And I was promoting something. And I thought I had to, and IT fucked in rule in my life. It's the worst. So you've .
actually taken breaks from the internet.
Well, so when I went south east dasa in twenty seventeen, I changed all my passwords to my email, instagram. I think I still had twitter back then. Email is going twitter.
What else is there? facebook? I changed my password to this. I just want to a computer work and I cut in pace of that senate to a french me said, do not send me this um wha passwords like you know just a seventeen celio whatever I I don't send me that I don't want IT I get IT when I come back. I don't want to be able to .
get in there SHE didn't look.
So I had no access to facebook, no access to instagram, no access to email. And then I left my phone at home, I called an uber to the airport and then put my phone in my desk.
closed IT.
And then I got IT was.
but .
why you do IT?
I think not something you do accidently.
No, I accident. That was the first time I done. I done IT since a couple.
I want to go to ma for ten, twelve and I was like, i'm bring my phone on my computer. If you're just wait freer, you're more social. But and I want to be connected to america.
I just wanted to be like floating, you know, I just wanted to be like, at this level of freedom, you follow the dead for a while. Yeah, free internet. Yeah.
I found my .
wife for internet, really. Yeah, just like a regular male thing.
Yeah, ordered.
No, the but I was trying to exchange a rogan about IT about leaving. And I was buddy, I can't I can't I don't know how to express IT, but like there's a level of freedom.
I take a second level of like hey, i'm in wherever i'm in southern tnm and I was going to go to the north, but I was just have to sick of White people and I just like, where there no White people and I was like, show doc IT was like, southern small town I was like, oh, go there instead just the ababa. Just swap someone is like I heard was a good hike mean more you oh okay, what do you instead? And just like you're just floating meeting people talking.
interesting talking, you didn't feel help us are afraid .
without a phone. Hundred percent of RAID. Oh yeah. I mean, the first, I mean, almost came back right away.
I was, I just was a mistake, the dopamine dropped from being on there. That's they're trying to, you watch you on there. So that drove, I get in my fix.
I was going to withdraws, really yeah and I was like, this was a mistake, I said. So I went. I I was like a marketing, any plans? I went, I I decided region, southeast aasa IT was cheap, is going to be that or south america. So south east asia, seems so foreign, has gotten to travel to one one like seventeen day tour of china.
You bring you a girl with.
you go by yourself, by myself. China was found. The comedians were kind like, guide IT for you, the ones that were out there. I wants somebody in shanghai, china Sparks. Like, by the way, it's safe here.
Like they won't touch you here in china, you can be a drunk woman to sleep with your fuck and phone in your hand by passed out. And you'll wake up in that exact position on touch, the punch short for A A violent crime wait too much, and the embarrassment for their family to wait too much. So once I had told me was safe, I was like, oh, all my like zahoor a was gone sick.
See guys later. Like you don't want to guide my ah i'm out and I would just walk around discovers I was I was blue my mind, I know like I got get lost again. IT was so cool, so I wait.
I got my, I got every visi needed ahead of time. Like thailand's, like on landing you get a VISA. Some plays are on mely and think some place you need to head of time.
So the nam, I think i've got a head of time, maybe me, mr. Not cambodia. I think that was on on landing.
And they're all like, good for six months a month, any six month period, you for six months, any months soon as you land. So I just waited to like a day before, as I wears the weather the best. So there was rain vietnam.
So no, there was rain in thailand or no. And then min mar had like ten clear days. Did you call home at any point? no.
See, you just basically disappeared .
for how on four and half months yeah, got demo was back in grade.
What was so great about IT?
It's that freedom, seeing things, seeing the world knew, seeing a cultures that were different years meeting. And I didn't meet locals. The language is a real problem.
So, but I met germans at the hostel. I was, I met people from england, and the host was that you talk. I never talked in.
Anyone recognize .
you twice? One time on an island in cambodia, I was walking down this. I kind of deserve beach. I was like our fear, not like I, what a fuck.
What are you doing here? Can say if you got from hundred rollins um later when he people like, what are you doing here and he goes, i'm here to meet you what's your story? He was just switched around, but he I was in arcadia people like what you do there was like what you mean? International park hike here for the exact same reason you're here.
Yes, twice, ever, which is also great. So I could be I may have told a bunch of comic system like you are losing your sense of reality, but having looked up to that's not the real, that's not the real world you don't understand. And when trump got elected, all these liberals that I was around, again, not liberal or conservative, I i'm the third thing, the majority of the country, i'm the majority.
I don't care. We can hear them talking about how could this like you've never got into your limo? I know really rich, like woman comic.
And I you've never been to date ohio. You would understand disillusionment. The recession still going on in a lot of places.
You ve got to get out and talk to people. So I ever talking in indonesia on an island. IT wasn't florida, I forget. But over breakfast, this german guy and he was telling me about german workers rights and the five week standard vacation time they get.
And I was like, what do you mean? Like first year at a cost you do Better after a while is how much you guys go like two weeks and your expected did not take IT any little and what. So that kind of like talking to people makes you like realized, oh, some shit that's wrong.
You learn more about your own country, good and bad. I think you some places you know that I wish did the american .
way a hundred person .
other countries feel like I wish .
we did that yeah I mean, when I got home, I know the first thing I noticed getting home was like the ileka er in country god bora yeah and I learned to appreciate that yes yeah it's like actually IT does feel to .
me what I mean having had, you know pretty failed educational experience, but that you learn way more from a month of broad than you wouldn't say you're in college.
The happier I met these these four or five canadian checks, eighteen in in in a city in min mar and we're all just talk and everyone's time what's so friendly and inviting in hostels? Everyones like they'll see you. They don't they're not ages, they're not sexist.
There's not even not even pays for a woman's drinks. They like, you know, my money is my time. I have left out here. I saved up ten grand if I buy a drink and not expected. It's so the equality levels crazy.
But though you don't think that you know cards we're playing a game on a sitting with does not like who you they just don't have IT their and I was talking to these canadian chicks. They were like, we're on gapper. I was like a we don't get capper in america, no, but they are like we don't get gapper.
We just took a year off. It's not prince, not a thing. It's not part of the curriculum. I don't know why we don't do IT more in between college and high school and college and grad school. That's a year to yourself.
So but weren't you worried about coming back to seventy thousand text matches, passages in emails in here a little bit?
My manager at the time was like, what if something big comes up? I want to tell them no for me. So what if something you want to like?
I want to do this, I want to disappear. Tell them no. I will just have missed IT.
What if is an emergency? What emergency? What if your dad dies? Then i'm mourn when I get home. I don't need to mourn the right time.
What did you do this again?
Mental places. I know what I did that I just as kind of having to fight with comedy central. They want to me to work nonstop. Oh, you understand this? Yeah, they want to me to work nonstop.
I wanted some time off that friend duncan who who fucked me over with a, with my name on the internet didn't fuck IT was a fun prg. I mean, I he used to leave also like the last a piece of my fridge. So like, so like, whatever I say, fuck me over. And the most respectful way .
that sound .
a respectful .
way you are, the is now that sound respect.
I did IT in my friend bombing kelley. He was on her golf. I pissed in a bottle and put his bridges.
And what if my wife found this? My right? He was a lot trouble um what fighting like you ve got to work and IT takes .
me eight months to edit this .
like storytelling TV show that I was doing with other comics and I like I need some time off and like now we got to get back to another season so dunk in was like, well, you want to see the world and this company you work for just once you do not see the world so my k, you're right. I got to get out here and I just like, hey you you got I put trusting you to book to show the next year. I am trussing you to do this.
I'm out having a little is Better, you can, but I might get fucked up. You read the file head. So when he leaves her vacation, get fucked up.
Oh yeah. And he has to go corrected. He got a blossoming ot up, but at some point you ve got to trust some people to like your handleless.
I mean, they're going to upload this video right? You could stand over their shoulder, no, but you like. And you, they might make IT up.
They might not quite do IT the way you want. I an interpreting could tell you, like I shouldn't in a rub, you just get IT right. But they have to make IT.
You're trusted him to do IT so you can freer yourself up to do other stuff. Anyway, trust of the people had to trust. And just got what .
happened to your brain not being on text all day long.
great. So when I first got a, when I first got a flip phone, which is a half way to that, I was talking at the same comedy club, has talked to a nicky glaser before SHE blew up yeah but he is still good, funny comic and we're talking before the time brady roast, before the time wait for the time radio roast and and i'm friends weather, but not like good friends with her and i'm sitting in in the backside more talking just like has and there's day one of the football like I think they won a week one anywhere SHE goes has a changed you know what is a change? I wouldn't be talking to a nicky.
I'd be in my phone looking for someone else and and man, I loved IT being out there in asia with no connection. You just there was one time in this, like northern city in thailand, I met an american girl. Start talking about trump a little bit and and then it's like it's the same patterns of discussion and we both look like we shouldn't do this like yeah not where if you have been in asia, absolutely smart with switch a subject. It's just like you may have come .
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Did you find a distance between what you were expecting and what you found wasn't expecting anything? China, for example, you said.
yeah so like china was like IT was so IT was so foreign. What most .
expect at of china .
and versus, I don't know. I told my agent I was like, i'm getting this itch to travel. If you find any foreign gigs, let me know. I still wasn't making enough money to really, but that was making some.
And what i've actually a seventeen day tour of china, beijing, shanghai, cities outside shanghai ending and hong kong and cities outside hong because doesn't pay very well, but on the fly out there hotels every night and that pays you. I think like think was like, I was like three grand four ground and I was like butter that's more than I was making two years ago. That's great.
And I go and it's just like tasting food. Like what the fuck is they are seeing that they don't take them bones out of their meat. They just cleared at all.
I was picking up with something chops. What the fuck is bones in these pieces of me? And then you need to work. That's not the issue yet.
The I ball out of my soup yeah IT was just like, I know what I was expecting, but I told you, like I was the beige comedy seen was that they were in the hootings gue of beijing doing below. And I was like, isn't a punch al lob by death here and they go. They don't care about White drugs.
They only care about yellow drugs. What are Young drugs? The opium stuff that that the chinese would would lose their lives to.
They like you guys kill yourself selves with coke. We don't care. We don't do that.
So IT doesn't you can't import IT. But if you'd do IT of somebody, actually the beijing got caught the coke. They stamped a passport, never allowed to return to send them home. SHE went home steeped ed out that part of her passport went right back and they don't have computer systems that are soon like, right well, come to china um anyway, we're doing coke in the hold one's having a good time and then we're walking around and was like three three thirty A M IT was hard this is like a june I think and um went to a bodega thought like a twenty years like hino can and I like you can't do that room from you can't buy a beer at night and walk around with IT but there are they like as long you know skuli body with IT what's the issue just is like having a knife. Don't you stab someone that's now a weapon if you just have IT to like widdle, it's not a weapon right and then there is like so it's like, oh, wow, you can do these fun and my friends were like, can you get on google and I know you search on the problem for you yeah I mean, still want to find out like, where's a good restaurant in town, but I have more fun. Just walk in and finding a restaurant, you know, it's like discovery is .
so another sense that was free or than you .
thought I was so free and and then you learn how I like adapt and overcome. I was to tell you to take a if you're in a hotel early, i'm Better right now. They tell you to take a business card from the hotel.
You can show to someone who does not speaking lish get me home to a cab driver. Did not was world cup. We're all at a bar watching IT like two. I am hooked up with this check was there right now now I I did talk up with the chinese check, took me home and they are dacy with the fuck and bat chase me out.
Actually, yes.
he was pretty fucked tic. Yeah but you know no how? No file, nothing, nothing. But see.
you scampered out, yeah.
yeah, yeah. Like, put on your parent run and, you know, so fuck in fun. But then I had to like, get this cat home after a world cup of making out with this chick. And then I was like, the sherton and I am.
I eron.
it's pretty close and then I remembered like, I think he's to get out her torrential rain and my foam soak to them on another cab, the shin hotel no understanding at all like fuck. And then i'm it's near the train station so another cab and I like that he said something my sure. And until we get close, another transition and might forget that chair I see shared that.
But you just figured out out my flip flop started breaking, and that was that first ship. But in indonesia, they started breaking and I couldn't find eleven and half side shoes. They just, people don't come that big in that part of the world.
Games looked and looked and looked in cambodia, found like a bunch of ten size, you know, flip in the first. Finally found some quick over one like a real store. And they broke, they were fake, they broke prety vit kind of flopped, whatever.
And I was like, I was going to throw him away but like, oh, I can't I won't find more shoes. So you're like, I have to fix these shoes so you could look for super glow. You should learn to overcome situations. The bus is done.
What do I do? How do I talk to people? Another language. So fun getting places. By the end, I entered an east mall and I was like, I should learn some of the language of some tech. M, I talk to italian lady in indonesia SHE was really learning bahasa indonesia SHE was like, really good at IT like actually learning SHE hear words that what's that word and write down and was kind of inspirational shows like I got to do that for for team born so I could get byand my place to sleep. I know how to say that remember ing of the discounts er IT was like a hybrid of live cut for you yeah thank you. Yeah so you go to a small town like to discuss and discount and they point you to some place and you get close or like them discuss ve there and found someone s like you come this way and fear and give you a place for for five box.
you know what's what's mean? And marr like and wise and longer called burma.
do you know? I don't. Oh, so they got a bunch of bad press from human rights .
violations.
You like changing. They move the capital to the middle. nowhere.
So no one can protest. It's like moving dc to two hours outside guitar. Who's gonna go at a protest? Only the hard course.
You know did you feel impressive?
No, no, because there was only certain regions and foreign are not allowed to stay in those regions. So I didn't really come up there. Also not a lot of rent motorbike ed vehicles for us ah so they had e bikes.
They just walked away around. So at e bikes and like, bag A A place like that, you can mention e bike, just an electronic about that. They like it's like motorize golf card perses a electric.
But there was one time we saw there was a bus IT took you like this way from in the lake too, maybe mentally, I forget, and took you a way here and all the way back. You know, like this. I mean, a couple of friends like, it's like three hours this way or six hours, but it's like seventeen hours this way.
It's like, let just get her own way. Let not take a like a bus, just take a like little shuttle and stuff. So we did. We stop after like it's Carry here, some fucked in tiny town with cool mutual hotels.
Can we can we stay here? And I just like like looking at us something like like to the bell, somebody comes up and was like, hike two rooms and just like, and then just like kind of talking to other staring at us. And I like, is this hotel there's just like looking at us and eventually something like, call something in the phone.
They give me the phone. Someone spoke english in the capital yung g on like you can't stay there. Foreigner can say there.
How do you know your funner?
Long as one of the bodies I was with there I was like, I don't want to take my his photographer because I don't want to take my camera because of no mictla a IT goes years six foot one White guy and me and they're gonna know um SHE said you can't stay there got to turn around but not know what we just came to because you get to go self but we just came from mp we're going north SHE goes in the camp the bus we're off the bus it's gone and I was like, what can we stay out if I can monastery because like, they sort of have to take in and SHE just started left.
You can't stay in the region and I started like, i'm pretty good to plane, pretend so I like, I was pretend poor well, I was there. I was just like, whatever you guys as level, is that me? So when they are bitching about a two thousand and more expensive hostel, like I know, right? I could like salad to myself.
I know it's the common of people you can call your father and he duck end at all, but I just ignore that. So am I cry I but I can you don't have, we can go so we're going to know, I don't want to do and you is like, right will call local minister to calm and talk to you he came in his like art. We found another hotel that you can stay in but he's doing you a fuck in favor.
This isn't allowed. He's helping you like, okay. And then word there, we're walking around my body shut down the market by just being White and walking through IT was like the parking to sea they're all doing they're like what the what is this .
guy do with love and admiration or fear loading ah .
it's like if you see something seven.
forty eight, yeah it's just weird.
Yeah I just like what and you've never seen a weight. It's crazy. You like you take a picture all through asia.
Can you take a picture? And like a shared, you're feel like I want to be on your camera. I want my image to go back to america, I think would be so cool.
You hold my baby, let me take a picture. You holding my baby. It's crazy.
Every black. I know that I can. We touch her, her. And no, they ouldn't. They would just touch her hair.
And he goes, fused me like, right? And there was not. But so we stay. Then we start walking, which was torn around. We saw statue on map stop me like a map step, or was like statue.
So like this, go to the statue was near an army base, like a junta base, which is like they have rebels there in these regions. And some of them work with the government. Some of them are against the government.
Some of them have deals with each other. I don't fully, no, I wasn't there for the government anyway. Where they are taking a picture hanging out.
Six or seven army people with machine guns come out, went right at us. What are you doing here now? Then what are you doing to taking picture that like, yeah, state, give me the pictures.
Let me say, delete up. Where is your passports? Like, I look back at our tels. Let's go, let's go see him and they just let us machine style back to our hotel house to get our passports is just this is a no foreigners region and I mean.
anything we're fighting .
there that you so no, no.
there's like a secret nuclear program.
Anything have you just support? People would like make shaft gans and like, yeah and then and then we've got back and the people, they were like, why let's play soccer. We all try to do the hacky sex soccer thing.
They loved IT. I got violent diary and food poising there. That was more notable than the that's required.
So four and half months in the road, you come back to your country, and what do you notice?
Okay, that's a good question. And actually I can tie that into this this jee special also so you see everything fresh when you get back. Yeah clean and clear.
Ize, yes, you do well.
even probably what you do on australia, two weeks, even that amount of time, for sure. Off is enough time to, oh, just works for the trees for a moment. And IT was the overcrowded, yeah, the cities, even dc in the metro like this, is too industrial.
Yes, I want to this of my parents first surprise them. They relax, so stop. They have talked me and I went right to them.
Walk the dormouse said, what? Ck, yeah was really nice. Um yeah, it's it's, it's over, bill. But also very clean. But but then also I was I was in france. I took writing cause in france and I got beautiful city paris um got back to new york and there's writing on every surface here someone is grafted every this really is disgusting.
A part of paris like the whatever our is pretty disgusting yeah but that old town I part I look at this yeah and then it's like, has everything writing on, has everyone sign their fucking and name on every fucker surface? But so you notice the things like that you don't notice. So I am trying to remember what I noticed there. IT was just a lot of anger, a lot of hostile and and bus to the paper soft .
IT didn't see angry .
than when you left. Well, I didn't check my email right away. The lady I sent IT to was an employee back then. I was like, don't give up to me that i'm not ready for.
Yet and then I did I was like, fuck IT was overwhelming out of request site I would I would need and people asking for things, but even to wait in on this or that I have a lot of fucking tasks. I didn't realized, yeah I don't realize how much responsible that's what I was. The overwhelmed amount of responsibility and i'm not in a high responsibility field.
You know that's true. And IT was just like needing to return taxi, I ells and and and weighing on this to pay your bill and do that is just like IT was so fraying before. So here's what I knows.
When I did the jee special, IT was weird because I never done this before. But I was living with a ghosts for about five years. I was living with a guy was dead, that that version of me isn't here anymore, right? Like, have a good.
Yeah, he's god. He's been longer. And I was living there and try to remember this ancient religion in ancient time in my life. And I was lost and there was a very lonely hour. Usually it's like in relation other things and I finished IT I kind of came for air and I looked around and everybody was very angry.
I came back into the world and he was like, everyone's mad about everything yeah um my friends were obsessed with stories that I didn't even know we're happening like what there is some chick with no dicks with swim, with a dc women against other checks with with dicks like their whole life is what can worried about IT. And it's like none of this concerns you. None of these concerns you that is a tran swimming or that this covered vaccine or that is like, jude, chill out.
All of you are mad about every little thing. And I was it's like, I don't know what happened in those five years. People got fucked in mad.
I just came up and I was like seeing a right I wasn't like, you know, when a kid you see a ten year old fibers like you got so fucking big or fire attack other people's kids yeah but if you see every month you don't notice IT. So I was like, dropped out, pop back in and everybody was at the throat. So, actively political, and I do you avoid that, but only the news.
I try to change the subject. I try to have, I tried to have tools change the subject. How do you change a subject? How do you have .
the only resolutely on political person with a public voice left?
There's a few of us, my friend big jay, we're talking. And once we got to get a wait together, miami will be the worst city in america.
Um I thought I heard that was the best.
Who told you that?
Fucking I don't know. Ah exactly .
it's so discussing. They value only beauty, no intelligence. If you're A A girl growing up and florida, they will not reward your a plus in sky. They were reward a new hairstyle. Yeah, anyway, we got ta peach.
Us we're talking because I like biden this three years ago I was like, what do you? They buy you, don't vote you because I hear about, i'm less than the other. What a great reason.
I like one over the other. Yeah, we do do hear way more about this guy than that guy. If you're not political, I just want you to be away from me. You deal with IT um yeah you avoid IT, you learn how to change this .
subject but aren't aren't a lot of comedians pretty absorbed to IT?
Yes, we know anything you have noticed. It's like we don't know anything we're waiting in so here's what I do. It's like you start getting argument and we're like, well, mainly my stance is I don't care but if you asked me to take a stance on four ver shabby, you something that doesn't matter, what do you think Better?
It's like, well, ninety five percent of my reaction is I don't know or care whatever I get a Better deal on this good. But with that other five percent, i'm going to say I think shelby's Better. why?
I just kind of feel that way. okay? So everybody is only publicly weighing in on their five percent and not there ninety five percent, which is, I don't give a fuck.
No one cares about women's color swiming. No one ever cared about women's color swimming. You don't think so.
No, I didn't even know exist IT shut the fuck up. And they're obsessed with IT, they're fucking obsessed. So we fuck off the dig. Shut up. What are we talking about?
What are the issues to get you spend up?
Ah the yankees misses and collapse. That's every fucking in year. But I know IT doesn't matter. I know this is fake. I'm not pretending it's all I got actual real thing. You know, i'll bitch about somebody going to slum but I know in the end though, like i'm just playing pretend angry IT doesn't really matter.
So there are no issues to get you mad.
Stand up. People come out after stand ups, who's coming up to stand ups. So lot of people, interesting time for my .
industry would tell me.
I love this thing you used to do on your, on your T, V show, where you, like, play dumb to get an answer is really fun SHE really a dumb. But that doesn't interest. Think you think you would be rewarded for helping a one woman across the trade and you're saying you were not really.
it's all of working and answer.
So i'm trying .
to pull back and keep my many opinions not going .
to said like waning and I go I know you're right and waning and it's like to talk you .
about the time no sinit don't know that I know a million stand ups and I like a lot of them, but I don't know that much about your business.
yeah. So you cat a lot of people, it's worse when it's from the inside with other comedians wing and think that cross the line. Yeah, it's disappointing.
It's really disappointing because that is already a battle you're trying to get people to laugh at, like dark stuff, really. School shootings. I try to get them the laughter.
You trying to find joy in a terrible thing, nine, eleven jokes, holo jokes, aid jokes, rape jokes. You trying to get fine, making fun. Break that down. We're creating fun.
You know, like you're make one of this like, right? I'm creating fun out of a terrible situation um that guy down baris used to run the jun a yeah there was the time we had a friend died. Pretty soto died.
I don't know what, just in the sleep one day, really helpful looked out for everybody really just support of guy when we all started, and nobody can believe I was. What about at the time I was banned from the congress store for Beata bob lee too much, I was angry about a check, and I was taken down on him. And I was just every chance I get, I was punching them and they're all like our, you're out, you can be here and I live two blocks away.
And I got the call friday also died. I was like, what the fuck? And these bans always last at at between a months and six months, and that would end.
You are always welcome back. Um but the time I was banned, I was we couldn't understand, pretty sort of dying and he was the first one that died that I knew of. And IT was like, I mean walking down the steps in my apartment, then just collapsing on the steps, and then like, keep walk.
And then I met someone in front of the commerce company. We just hug and we SAT on the on on the sidewalk, like with our feet on the street. And just like cinner and don beards comes up and he goes, i'm glad you let them the ban being forced.
You shouldn't be in here. Good you on the street. He was just a catheter. Yes, he made fun. Yes, out of a terrible situation. And that's what some of us are trying to others are trying to do like funny.
like loud pop. Just also cool, sure that funerals and wake's memorial services, you know, this kind of you know, get togethers that we have, they always wind up in hoarding .
yeah do have yeah bubbles that could run memorial for free. IT was in the main room of the congress. Or when he starts off, he was like, really good friends of best friends.
They started together and he goes, is a weird time and he set the tone right away. He goes, you know, i'm here. Um it's just weird that he took ftk die for me to find that get a mainland but and miss, he starts laughing.
And it's just like it's just like, hey, we're going to enjoy this. We're not to cry. We're going to but we're going to try not to so that's what we do. And then some people are just not understanding IT.
It's but other standards are policing their colleagues.
They fall IT used to do we just talk shit about him? What I would do a blow job joke a long time ago. A mark man was just like looking me like whatever.
And he was, you're smarter than that man that sucks but like I said, wasn't he didn't put me in a moral low ground at him in a highground. He just like your smarter than that. But I like guess smart people also like get their fuck in balls drained.
They can all relate to IT as universal works in romania, in china, in america. Everybody can late to IT. I am, see a problem with that.
Some stupid jokes to fine, but IT wasn't a fight. You know, we have just talk shit about each other behind our backs in a fun way that is just doing like all jokes. He socks, socks. But I never go publicly about IT. Now it's this thing, this moral high ground you get activate online or you just feel like.
have you been attacked by other stand ups?
Yeah yeah. But also far more the real stories i've been. But even that IT was mostly positive text how you do on you OK I thought I was hilarious and then a few knocks hood that's IT.
We just felt you got punished .
for that 咦 yeah yeah, yeah yeah. You role that i've got a call for my logo, good to one Brown. nice.
You get a lot of people mad. I like, thanks, body coming from you that's fucked and awesome. So I .
appreciated.
yeah. Junkin was like, I think this might be your best one. My god, I know. I made, I made A, I made a city crumble. Yeah, I was great.
I turned comedians into hypocrite s they were all like, if you don't like a joke, just walk away. And not these same guys because they live in L. A.
Or there were black. I got so far. Oh, ha ha, you have no idea how I found your back.
It's so just walk away if it's a rape job but if it's a fuck heroes, I don't. You've never been triggered. You're triggered you and those people walking out screaming as they .
helpful for the rest of us to know who they are the the phony is yeah, it's just like, did you get dropped by your management .
for the manager dropped me also getting death rats at home .
because you made kobe Brant later.
Fans are retarded. They're not smart people. They are only had winners, so they don't understand what struggle is. They're just they're dumb, they are bad people, their later fans. so.
How when he called you what you say.
I think you might a text because I I think that's the end of the world for us. But i'm getting this like that. They are going to come up with the doctor.
There are like to come your house and radio. It's like, don't know what that yeah get out here. What what do you guys doing? They up they opted at that point.
I never seen them up at like that where the instead of going after you to go after other people like your loved the ones to try to hurt you. And it's like, what do they do? What he just, it's just idiots, you know, on online going limit's like, there are whole plane.
They don't. If they actually saw someone, they wouldn't do that. You know, there is nothing in actual, in real life by a zero only online stuff.
And I tried to come over, write down, I guess, I mean, getting death threats for two decades. This isn't real. This is game or talk. This is just me talk.
Yeah, the best one was this guy was like, if you come to north and to kick your fuck and as I swear to got and then a narrow later roll back, he goes, okay, I see you are not right now, but if become the Greens bone of ick, I like now you took a shot or at you took your shot. Shut up. G, I R C, kill you.
Like my tour schedules there have some fucking and ideals. Come get me. Do you worry about that? I used to in the very beginning, but it's IT was never even a fuck you in person. IT was never even like shut up, fucking IT was never even that, let alone actual danger.
You've never had anybody come your house.
your house and you're anything like them? No, no. But online they went after other people. So then but no one I was never punish ed for any moral.
Your manager shouldn't drop you. I mean, I felt sorry. I feel sorry for her hearing I got threatened. But you're paying this person to have you back in moments exactly like this. right?
yeah. right.
yeah. So to abandon you. And one of those moments is pretty much the greatest day election of .
duty imaginable. Yeah, yeah. The exactly like this is the what's the whole point?
Yeah yes not when you're like.
yeah and then my producer pulled out because I was like, I was going to do that special. And then he was like, I and because he was an L A, people thought I was the end of the world and I was like, what? That's nothing even I even had an uber driver. I came back from charlies want to get in charlott when not happened and I came back seven uber driver and he was talking and he was like, cheer about this cubby brian. I was like, yeah, because I was like, what do you think about IT because just weird that I don't know it's like it's it's sad but like there's him in a daughter and seven other people, they don't seem to give a fuck about those seven other people and i'm like, right right that's fair.
You got IT.
That's that's what these jokes are when some celebrity dies and i'm mocking them online is because, like, you guys value celebrity life over a Normal life well.
you have not made a pretty biting point. I thought to my reaction I never when he dies OK right so there's that but i'm onna stand up but I think you made really fair point. I'm not against kobe, brian but he was credibly accused of .
ray ah they hassle the woman till SHE dropped dropped .
out during the right and stuff we went .
hold by today and .
he he admitted that he never gave consent. But he implied done verbally that there was consent and deep strangled her so like there was something there his words.
although at the time I didn't realize, I now know he does not think he gave me consent. It's like, alright, so much his word.
I'm not much of a feminist, even I am like, now that sounds .
like great also really care. What i'm doing is making fun of our society.
That's exactly what I haven't stayed up working about kobe bryant assault, uh, either but these are the same people who are telling me to value while women and believe all women or whatever. But they actually .
don't care IT all and made I as a later hater, going, well, they're not going to let them know like he will be going to jail hoping he would because like, I want the later to fail yeah. And then when he became time for him to go to, like he retired, I to, I have a retirement season. The women of L.
A, the liberal fucked in. The women of L. A.
Are never gonna this accused rapist get through his fucking and Victory lap without mentioning IT and they were so cki, they just were like, not. But we don't go up to black people. We only go up to White people. That's just the way IT is.
So this has been brewing inside you for a while now.
I hate the lakers. I D just like whatever I had a bit on old, old album of IT was called hashtag fucked the lakers. I was in denvers like this where if you can rape that check right here to people laugh. yeah. Of course.
when you take the lakers.
why not? Really, it's just fun. But it's because they killed comedy shows. Nea, every time there in the player, s IT be up three o in the first round.
And a game when they be the one seat against an eight seat and you do have a show and no will show up because they all to watch the there's ban wagon and fans how to watch the fucker. lakers. So I can hate the lakers.
Nobody hates the clippers. No, so it's like, so you just like lean into IT. I number one team is anti lakers. That's totally number two team as .
the when you tell jokes in china, yeah the tailor to a chinese audience and like what's .
a funny joke in china so anywhere else you get half through a joke and rush you stand this reference .
think about just .
like very clear. Do not make the government and I was like, okay, they're like, listen, we're going to tell you twice because I know your company and we're comedians we tell you that is going to make you want to do IT don't do IT. We'll get shut down.
There's a chance we get arrested. There's a chance we get arrested. Don't do IT.
It's not like ont won't work. It's gonna be painful for all of us. And I still did one anyway. I was like talking about anti government at the time.
And I was like, my country is a fucking out to come fucking and murder all our senators and they're well, no pro. It's prom like change the fucker subject. Yeah, but anyway, with that copies, does people just like waiting and got mad?
Others stand ups .
at that if you like you, but like they know who they are doesn't matter. Others were mad, but just like, personally like to come on mon miss pat called me was like, all you can make fun of our heroes like make on a denro man I was like chalabi a because no, not machala.
Ama, i'll tell you can make fun of but you just called and like and like would check up on me and like that and then other people should fuck that fat pitch for court against you as pet roles. But like the moral people, just check on you never say a word you know some people like fought to the nail to be like, defend me other people just like, it's not my fight, but I hope you don't. Okay.
who defended you?
Mark Norman went hard to me once, not hard on me, hard for me on a radio show in sand ago, talking about how like the jokes or jokes, if you didn't like IT, just you didn't like IT a Andrew shots went on the breakfast club, a very black wow. Yeah, I was like, you guys, you're way off your way off. I mean, that was bossy to go on a black show.
He was a black hero. So just like when cosby stuff came out and they didn't want to hear, they didn't want to hear this either. So I like, I like bring IT again.
It's not about cobie. It's about the them worshipping heroes. So he was like, now it's a fucking and joke.
You guys are getting IT wrong. And then that was, how did that go over? They were fighting him and he was fighting back. Good for has always been on the right side. Other people, hinch, k, some people, he was like, he goes hard defending just to any comic there air on the site of just defending your art form I don't even say, hey, I didn't find a joke funny but this is right to say, I don't even say apart, just say the second part, whenever one is coming again somebody for a joke be like, I didn't find that funny. Don't say that you would never say that Normally you were never in times of peace ago I didn't .
find that tony pt defended you.
Tony, no shouts, defended a tony, his Cliff h when he had up. Yeah, we all get your folles, you know. Who else? Um oh, tim dalan made like really funny jokes about IT good for him, you know tamon he was just here.
Yeah but I text with him yesterday. He fit in this chair. He slim these days. Yeah, he's in fighting form.
Yeah, he's at a diet of fuck in twin come. I didn't ask .
me about that. I don't think he is really gay. I don't don't that. I don't think we .
all be like proof IT s one guy .
in the totally remember pete butt, a judge and for president, he's supposedly gay and now he's transportation secretary. And I had one of my producers gay. Any question? He's not gay.
I was like, very serious. He goes, not a complete shit. Wo, oh no. He does all gays. I'll keep very close track that.
And my person .
that that is totally opposed, he was dating women S A few years ago. This totally things like gay at all, smart. So I said that on the air people got all offended, I thought was .
kind of food and you are also like i'm against gays. I'm saying he's .
not one that .
that's what I said. So tim went on on and he goes he plays a good dumb sometimes on purpose like you do with the questions.
He does that with dumb he had the thing about were trying to ban up to um and he had the onest poppas has his like old greek guy character and he was like asking questions to about about a poo as some question on the time about a pool and he goes this man he is a he's bad father oh no he's actually a great father that there is a White character in the show is really he chokes his children. He's a really bad but but now he got eight kids and he's really wonderful so he has sort of deadbeat, no small business owner. I don't get this and tims like, yeah, I don't know.
They just don't like anyway. So you do that with me. Where he goes, he goes. Ai's actions and his words were terrible to take a hero like that and make fun of earth and his and its producers like, yeah, it's tough as like I just like you get on on the David death to make fun of a way of Franklin is so shading and the producers like, no, no, no, it's IT was not as closing no, no.
I read he did to think about a week of Franklin and he, that was a different one. So he does this all the time. It's not about this one thing that they hear.
No, he said something to be a freak land and it's not that was, well, i'm pretty pass about the a way to Frankland thing for my three years earlier. IT was just the way you're saying like guys shut the fuck up in a funny way. I was like the most creative .
way to do IT that's so that's inspiring. Does anybody pay any attention at all to the late night house? But that's not even a .
category anymore.
but not even so funny.
You see them sometimes like crying about something what happened? Your industry, you're crying.
But when you're a kid.
I think IT was yes, you've watched the but when you guys get .
that like you tim delor have a dinner, you're not talking about what cml said no.
occasionally we will talk stay so occasionally will talk about how cool can will use to be and how that is really him, the cool guy yeah and he's, I don't know, playing pretend whatever kim had out there was a rose for a local kind of lunar comedian, Peter chen. Um we had a sort of faker rose as distinct .
from other comedians.
What does that mean? Uh, he was a bit crazy. The only of the commercial pass them as a, as a like let everyone else kind of fuck with them he was a bit of a not not me luna tech or you lon tech but like off um and and what a stand .
up says that it's real a terrible.
terrible comment like on no future, no past comedian yeah and so he was just a local like at the commerce he was like, you could just fucked with all the time. Is crazy and angry driven the anger at all times? This was fun to talk with them through at a rose form.
And everyone do you know to that thing that his turn to get up and he goes to everybody york, you say this about me, but you are the man nice. You wear a pleasure, not straight lions and like, he thinks he's getting you and then he goes to Jimmy camel was on on the dias um I mean this in A D C. Der let's got thirty people on IT you might want to show you might not have but he goes and Jimmy, you say I am a snake, you are snake and Jimmy cheel crackers, beer bottles that all fucking kill you and me help back.
That's who he is. He's a funny guy. I don't know what that is, but he is a funny guy.
What about the other two?
Who is that? fine? yeah. Well.
I can't remember.
And the guy from the daily show.
the guy from the daily show.
I don't i've never seen the daily show that his old show was pretty funny. The republic ican, very funny. Yeah, I, you know. Sounds of what he's also he's so clean on there, but I don't think he's that clean and he's like a boozer and a fun guy from what I hear.
I don't know. So that's just totally that's not even a factor in comedy.
Yeah I I like when he goes, when they were like how you're losing the ratings to the other guy to to the daily show guy. You need to talk about trump itself and he was that's just not me. I play pingpong with guests.
So if everyone wants to hear that, then you should go to that guy. But if you want to hear a good lip sink battle, more comic to do that. Senior lane, be funny.
You can write a tweet against trump. Er, biden make IT a joke. So many comments. Ics, Louis said this because comics fuck themselves over because they were like, it's just a joke, just a joke.
But as an office member, like but a lot of you guys are not joking legitimately. You're making serious statement. So how are we, the audience, to know when you're joking them when you're not?
This guy might be the worst present of all time. That's not a joke. No, make IT a joke. This guy is a worst president. Then kertch was at being a fuck from I, I, I don't know, but there's a joke possible.
So then what do .
you make of pel in general?
A great comment. Well, of course is but there's also SHE is here and there's not a crisis. Yeah just i've seen IT of what well, there's it's all like his he did this.
The training special he did was like an editorial. IT was not he was not joking. He was serious.
That good or bad, there's a thing i'll say that happens to a lot of people. You get some and it's not necessarily him because everyone is on their own path but you get some backlash yeah and then instead of just allowing that every backlash you want, I think that comes from a place of you want to those people over. You're not the guy not that think, and you want to win them over. But then what happens is your creative output is spent trying to win over still hate you try to please the people who do love you and that's your core group, and keep honoring them. And these other people IT swains them all when the .
people really smart services, but not just commented.
No, I can and I we can be as a brain high bin.
no, I think that's a really insight ful thing to say. It's not just comedians, by the way.
to do yeah yeah. And then he just keeps going further and further over until you does warped quan gollum version of yourself. yes. And like what happened and i've seen that they won.
actually they won. Your enemies is one the critics one did you.
And it's not even like, let me do a good joke about this. I Y, I was already done with that. So i'm not gonna keep doing jokes.
I'm not so people ask me about when I did to do things like you should come out in a helicopter and do what I like. Guys, that was a throw away line on fucking three minutes you only hear about. So that's what you want me to be.
I was never gna cover that again. That was a one joke about the fucking and lakers. I moved on to other stuff.
You want me to live in that forever. That's that's crazy. So you keep doing. Also, artists do this when they get positive feedback. Well, it's like i'd do a bunch of different paintings, but this ones about the years seeing to cell more so well, I guess all paint more dears and it's like that's not your natural progression as a visual artist as a page.
So how do you keep an can read .
any of you can read any feedback, positive feedback just as deadly is not yeah.
people telling you we like that, would like you. This is exactly right.
Ah can I read anything can allow IT in you, can you? As a comic, we got something that nobody gets is immediately reaction. I can hear the laugh. Yes, we know when it's good, when it's bad and sometimes when you're starting somewhere, look, no, no, they're laughing the back on here they're facing me.
I can hear I got the best seat in the house for the last and I know when there's bd last umbrellas and I know even enough fifteen minute said that I thought was bad. There was one joked that killed and the other fourteen were not good. So i'm aware what the line was for this crowd.
And I failed and it's okay. And they tell you ignored this, that I can tell from immediate feedback. I don't want to go home and go who saying anything about a online I know what worked every time they come out with the thing against comics the like and this locking crowd was this crowd doesn't me especially at the cell er the stand of the commerce.
This is not our crowds. They are just there for the show and we're going on if we're making them laugh, that's a bunch of strangers laughing. That's all the feedback you need or about just strangers, not I think and that's also a great feedback, you know okay, you you'll get a comedian and go, hey, there's something there.
Don't give up on that joke. Everything you're saying is um true and wise more important but there's also the reality of turing for any gig which is you went up in a hotel room alone ah and there's nothing to do is depressing and you're on your phone and your leg. I wonder what the reaction to this was.
That's fair and I should say this I fall to IT constantly and when I say don't read that, it's advising myself read right. You know we're all talk in once at the store, in the parking lot and jad car, Michael showed up, were all talking, talking about reading comments and stuff. And he was goulder before.
Was what year was this with him that was right after? Get his first TV show, who is kind of a star. I beyond sm, but not like international.
And I was doing well anyway, whatever. And he goes, yeah, yeah. I shouldn't ad IT, but IT is people talking about, yeah, interesting.
right? It's time. So here and hug fun. Like here, my performer.
I mean, you play for people and for their reaction. So this is another .
four of time you want to hear IT, but it's like to do some miles. It's deadly every once a while ago. Open up instagram on board and I don't fight back one time. And it's not like a whole sale like i'll never beyond, but like right now I shouldn't be on I mean, the woods I mean the woods sometimes and I go my phone it's like, well.
you later you did take four half months off without your phones so I don't want I also .
stand that yeah just like you set your own line and behind my line, i'm i'm about i've been for almost a year but trying to get on this light phone, the live company they made IT. It's you can do regular testing. It's the buyers are two people.
They are people who want to spend less time online and people who don't want respired on their woods people and there is fuck and liberals who don't want to feel faul to IT. I'm in the flatter I guess um full texting. There's no email on there.
There is a map APP but not google maps because I don't want those people won't be tracked. So with some other maps APP, I think there is a ride share APP and some sort of music playing up, I think, but not spottin fix. I don't want anybody in you. The light phone three is about to come out with a camera unrelated like IT takes .
a picture answer so that's all I use my phone force.
So for me ah I want one where I can get the stuff on there. I can't get the email. I'll check IT at home. I want to view the text and not have to do this, which is fucking annoying, right um so a full key but these have the one that flips open like that um the L G M V and you like lip m you text like that to brace.
Love that I gave up email plea.
No email, I don't no email, no email. How do you deal .
with like long form I text that's IT and I try to make I mean.
i'm sure I miss a lot. How do or I .
just don't deal with stuff and because I think it's it's IT takes too much time.
Yeah, I think i've lost probably have to a full decade of my life to this.
right? And so I might be worth saying, you know, i'm an artist, i'm a creator of little eccentric going to weird personal life, and I was not playing along with your conventions.
You could probably ll that off. You're also in a position where you're successful enough where you like guys deal with IT for me.
like handle this actually, you can get out on text and then then you can get to the bottom of IT every day. Then you go to .
sleep with nothing like let's go over very quick and it's going to take us ten minutes, not texting as take us five hours yeah.
I don't talking phone calls, okay because you can't .
do those at two in the morning. Ah yeah, I wish there was a way to send text schedule standard text.
Can you make more at some point? Will stand a real to make more money on the internet than they made on T. V?
yeah. So it's like it's pretty wild. The lack of caring they have for these conventions. Now, some of the comics that made so much money theyve reimport sk themselves and that's why they usually come out against the comic co cross the line because they are afraid of their own money, kind of going away instead of just defending their friends.
When harvey weinstein came out, when I came out about harvey weinstein, um they went to teti o and like where you work for them, you need a way and you need a picture statement. And he said something along the lines of, hey guys, i've known this guy for twenty five to thirty years. He was at my wedding.
I was at his or vice work, whatever. This has been a friend for a long time. You need to give me some time to think about this.
And this seemed reasonable enough, and they kind of went away. I don't even if ever said anything, but what's saying anything going to do anyway? exactly.
You just they need more that, but they're all scared of losing their positions. They sell out their friends. L is more than new york.
So the more money they make, more covertly they become.
we all wanted do another our own thing, and then this money in prison at this jobs I, I, I make for a rogan once in a while, was like, I member when he was. So I and I was like, i'm coming to town. I'm going to hike because I can. I got to interview some guy and I was like, I just cancel because kind of from australia, I got to, I can do IT and like of your job, I shut up. You won't do IT for millions of thousand now I would.
but don't know, are you worried about getting too successful where you can take four months off .
and go to memo I I. No, the problem becomes when you have a like this guy and that I would like, you guys relied on me for money yeah so now it's a separate thing and that's when I didn't realize that's what kind of central did to me. You ve got employees.
Well, they were like, what? There's all these like, you have all these staff members. You have these people gonna shoot.
Your show will kick you out. They'll be out of work. They are going to pay their rent or you can comply and you like, fuck, how .
horrible are they?
They're just really horrible.
They are right. I get that feeling that is done.
They're which is sad because there was a good platform for medians. I don't take any happiness in their demos.
So that's actually my last questions about is about the new platform for give me is how central is rogen to all this ecosystem?
I mean, he is the best, the amount of support he has. I mean, there's times where you go, some big guy, some Oliver stone, wants in my pocket, but I can't have an open micron today or tomorrow. So I morty blood.
I want to promote this open mika. Where's everybody else? We got, well, the name Oliver.
Don't get more hits in this open mika. So I can't. He's just like, i'm i'm the name. I'm just rogan. So I want to put this guy on a back on and this guy is funny. I want to push in and do a big platform instead of like what's going to help me book my show is interesting to help he just the casual talking about the outlines of stand up has helped all of us whether or not you've been on his show or not, he's made stand up more popular. So now we can all just I it's succeeding on it's a crazy level.
So what's the effect on the stand up here .
of going on? Rogan, well, one time is not as big as as IT once was because is now there's thousands of episodes, but guys like feel of on launch off like a good early apparently tim Dylan launched off that dave Smith really became well known.
I know three. good.
yeah. And you do well on that. I D is. But like IT was consistent once, you know. Um it's not like it's kind of like the tonight show with john y. Carson was a long time. Yes, it's like they say like you go on there, your star and everyone, you talk to you from back and like none of know you're eighth time on their your star, but that whole week people recover you but .
unlike cars and I mean, rogan makes the call himself he doesn't have in the company .
yeah he's like, wow, this later email open mika, we're all getting high in the back and then you want to walk past the original of the room and you kind like go in there, especially if you're higher. Joke is great. Watch some high level unknown comic.
You just it's great. It's laughs and free laughs get if you're passing by a live stand up only show how on your way out of work it's it's the best and he's in their laughing because you are great. He was always really great car.
The car land was like that. He was in the back. He knew who he was and if he did well, but that that's really good, said he knew knowlege keep back to himself he knew what George carlin saying, god said, would mean, did you know him?
I met at once, never said that to me. I never had a, had a front them. But but if he was there and he saw you, he took me twenty box to get delhi sandwich.
And like now, the commerce was very great. I know it's for you that I desperately needed IT. I mean, I was poor and rogan was always passing money around really.
Oh yeah, yeah. He kept in business for a long time road. He did.
I open form for five, six years on the road. Yeah, we're good friends. We're good friends. But like, so I mean, I can't I can't pay him back. I just try to be I just .
try to pass IT many dates you do here.
try to limit IT to twenty four weeks a year and the week can either be IT can either be just right saturday or like for the Amber festival. It's it's a entire market is force.
How do you not get addicted to heroin doing that? That's so much time on the road.
You get to be a boozer or for sure yeah yeah here when is always like one time I had to thought, like, I I want to try IT, but I was like, okay, i'm going to do IT away from home so I can't find a dealer that I can and then you realize you going to find a dealer .
if you're not probably pull that off here.
So I just haven't got into IT.
But how do you keep your life from capsizing?
Sometimes IT it's bad going. I going to take that back part also. Sometimes, like, I mess up a show a little bit, not completely IT IT went from an a to like an a minus. Be like.
cool IT being high on stage.
being drunk and like, let's get drunk afterwards. They are earthquake once. Like, you drink on stage, I love the interview and he goes, stand up comes one of the few are jobs that a enable you the right to imbibe while you're at work.
And I like to avail myself of that, right? And they go to that ever make you worse. He goes almost every time. But yeah, you just got to keep track a bit and not let IT your your employee. So it's up to .
you yeah but there a there's a disconnection .
they have justify. There's a lot of sober comics. I juice, I met jos, great comic. I met when I moved to new york.
IT was like a separation between york and I like and was like, everybody hear in new york talks about you like, I can't revise you, but i've never heard come from my life. Like what's because you wanted? Know why i'm not as big as my name.
I was boost but i've been sober for six months and now twelve years and he's crushing IT now. But he he didn't know he would do that for himself other and we were in a tie all the time. We can handle IT yeah .
but a lot of I mean, there's a reason that touring musicians, yeah no, it's just tour. Is the touring there .
was a DJ who is who quit? D. J.
A highlight? I forget who was and they were like, who's like what? I am doing too much drugs. I can't do something to stop DJ and people go just tell to drugs while you D, J.
And he goes DJ and all the world and you have to yeah I know tried itself but yeah, rogan, he's just rules for IT and is the way of like he's like, pay your openers well, he was pay me one hundred fifty dollars set to MC. The standring was fifty. He paying one fifty and then paying your ideas would go with us also.
He's paying him also one fifty in the rate for the middle was one hundred. And then one day he called me and joe, he goes, hey, i'm sorry, i'm giving you guys a raise and I like, no one's offering us that much, definitely not more because now you guys are head language, should make a lot of money. Give me you two fifty a set so we come home with like as much money as I would make, pretty much on my own headlining that I never gotten me work, by the way, but like you would have been the same and also never touch my wallet and went out to the finance restaurants you know, IT was, he was great.
That's amazing. Why do you think he does IT.
Ah I don't know, he's a positive guy. So for a while he just brought your ideas with them and then and joy was pretty cocked up back done and hamsun's. You just would not show up and he could bring a local but get to be supportive to the scene to get help guys that is struggling.
And he brings just joy, and the joy he get to the airport. And I joye, where are you? No one answer is phone and land of the new cities that you got.
Something came up, I missed my flight and I was at the airport. He missed your flight. He just code excuses, you know yeah and so he's like, he's unreliable.
He might not show up. IT became too much. But instead of saying you can't come anymore, he goes all just bring a second opener.
So if you don't come, i've still got somebody. It's not to have an employee go. I just don't show up like like I got so higher two employees then just spiring the guy.
He was like he's too funny. He's got to be supported. It's our responsibility .
that's remarkable.
So I try to do that with like Young come it's like you know IT isn't one time I was great.
So when european er gets too hard to to show up at the airport airport I never .
had to go that people are two whatever. But like now I will pay for your meals. If were out like a dinner after spots, it's like I I don't about IT because that's what and I remember red one of those, he was like brand new to L A.
He took us out after like the standard hotel late night food, hey paid like three times in a row and brain or the line. This doesn't Normal for someone you get around but not consistent, get round. That's weird.
And we're at carney where IT was a chilly dog place. And like, let me get this one. I was broke.
I couldn't afford the standard hotel but the carney like it's sweet dollars, you know and because no it's okay. Do please let me get this like A A man sort of like thing you came for me. I don't know you like that um and I insisted and he goes, okay thank you.
Appreciate that. And then later we're walking back to the company because hey, just see you know like it's not a para position when I pay for you. It's just like that standard meal for me is is about a quarter to you.
It's about worth at one five nickles yeah that's why I pay for IT doesn't it's meaningless. It's not for power. I thank you for baby carnies but like that all I have more money to take some you like if I I just go get coffee at your.
but I don't have to ask. So when rogan got attacked, when they try to clam he was a racist of .
all all things .
like no effect.
I had no effect. Also comic supporting them. I think this what you're going to do when there's just like me of hatred coming at anybody, you get a plenty of other people are going to play this meat as solid ball.
And for immediately to break up and need to start, break up and you get the image work like a piece falls off, piece falls off in the atmosphere, peace falls off. Peace falls off. So what support does from other people in your industry, either broadcasting or comedy, is that shoots a rocket hole for that media, a little hole, and that starts to break IT up a lot faster.
If you have a few commerce ago, guys, you just don't understand comedy. That's just a joke. He doesn't mean that you're out your mind IT creates doubt in the fast that and then IT breaks up really fast but when there's no doubt it's just fucked in paw that fuck, sorry.
that can blow everything. What happened to the guy? Don't know.
What is I? At the height of that, I was started usually talented, so I met about IT, and I know whatever was embarrassing that story, but I was not a crime that I could tell. How did he wind up getting destroyed?
The nal. I think that's something in society like, no matter if you're big, we want you down I think is because that says something about me that i'm not big. And instead of, like, let me rise up to his level, right, let me take you down.
So on comedy, IT works in a few ways. Your evil person, you steal jokes, your hockey, your um um racist rosan racist colusa CIA steals jokes, a Larry the cable guy hacky. These are all things agree with, not agree with.
That is what they say. This guy lied about something, this guy, but they just like, either way, we're going to take you down is not about one thing. If I was about one thing I D like this society doesn't like that thing but since it's about lots of things is like what the common factor is.
You're big. You're all big. Let's take IT down um yeah through SHE offered like a legitimate play that lady looks wide I saw a picture where he looks like an old jewish h lady yeah and then it's like that's a believable fuck in retard but it's like we want you out of here.
Do you know her? What is I ve had a few times, great person. I don't know that well.
but truly a cool.
interesting person.
absolutely one hundred percent in touch with something deep. She's not on .
stage and it's jokes and is just get people on our way like it's prety very special. But yeah, I don't know. They go to rogan, they go out to Louis.
I think IT was that I think because what they were going afternoon for was petanque IT was you're not doing sex the way we do but I mean, when I was in college to start bring up verbal consent and IT was IT was brought up by virgins who had never really experience ed sex. If you ask any Normal woman how they feel if a guys like, may I kiss you and they say, okay, yes, may I touch your breast? That's like we're done here week yeah you're weak to go for IT and i'll say no, that's how you know.
It's not like you're not holding them down and you're just like, uh like, okay, I mean, i've gone up for a kiss but no, no, I i'll see you like that. Okay it's embarrassing. Yeah not going to do IT again. I feel shamed. They try.
That's OK like, what does .
that happened you yeah a long time ago? good. Yeah just yeah a large time work out.
Yeah it's like but we were like, that doesn't work in real life. Verbal concept and he got verbal consent. May I do this? Yes, you may. Okay, i'm going to do IT. Okay, fuck you.
It's it's and they actually took him .
out and they yeah, they did. And because when people were like what I can, I think that so the friends of his we're like not a defend them other people like you're putting me in a moral weird spot to you're saying he's this evil guy and if we defend evil and you're out I mean mcDonald saying, hey, I don't think I don't think rose meant that and they go with not you're off tonight, child tonight and he goes i'm not excusing IT i'm saying he wasn't the right person if somebody goes to me like a fox eh rogan, his adi trans and his pocket only has this and I think me joe rogan, I fucking you don't tell me what I think can I made and it's like you can't even argue with you're getting the wrong you're the wrong door.
You at the wrong door that's what happened and what's your name? That black you got shot to the fucking and wall they once in the wrong house. What's your name? I would not go your name and I never did say .
your name though, so I can't remember. Well, it's just what kind of person I am.
but it's like they're going to the wrong house and you like you're the wrong house. I don't you tell me evil person so they made people feel weird about even defending Lewis, but IT was like something about whatever. But it's also when you just take a step back from IT, it's so chemical if you don't take any personal like I know that I so here's a game I play, it's called that's really going to tell you and IT doesn't work with full rapist.
K, but anyone else imagine they were your friend. yeah. And you had to explain the people lose a good example of why someone is not wrong.
There was a comedian and the UK, where the ebro festival and he was doing, he was called when Harris met Sally sky, thinking he's a curate comic. And he takes his long, he go. One year he did a wide MC Whitermore was, this was his hour, was all about just White people in the culture.
And he takes every side, south parks style, every side. And when harassing met, Sally had some great lines. And there goes men of the only ones that rape ourselves, because women, you ever have sex with the guy that gets weird next day, because he didn't want to have sex, you raped me.
You talk them into IT, and he did. To think about lin, he goes, he asked some, some women if you could do that. They said, no one. I guess he didn't anyway.
And I saw after as my kate, great, special same thing is one like, just, you know, that's not the facts or all do what do you want just like that rabbit t told me but like they did say, yes, oh, shit. And to credit change, the change as I don't want get IT wrong so he changed that made IT still a funny joke. But yeah like going to get the fact right.
definitely. so. Anyway, well, fuck, I can smoke here today at all. Yeah, I know place.
Well, let me ask you who you you know, li C K, but are there people you would defend to?
You don't know. yeah. Okay, so that's again. Thank it's defend them so access if that your friend and say what happens with luis, like he asked someone for two girls, come back to your hotel room, which by the way, always implies women are idiots.
You know what they want, at least you know what they want. No victim laming. But if I walk out one hundred.
but there are no surprises if you this .
is you know what this is probably right. So you be like, let's me downstairs if you don't want that, okay? So you're at least putting a guy in a website if I walk out with a hundred dollars bill and get an avenue d in new york and I get robed, I shouldn't get robbed but I also like, great, don't do that, you know so anyway, if you defend them, it's like he asked for verbal because that and got IT and they go.
Well, as high powered manager try to shut these girls up or is the defender game or his friend, his manager such his friend was saying, if you ut the fuck up, he's married yeah, you shut the fuck up and not he's silencing them but just like, hey, quit saying this should about my my fucking and friend, use your head he's married that's not the same as like trying to silence of buckin female voice. And jane said this on a pack because we thought that I was funny when IT happened. We thought I was like, what a dorky is? Yes, which is great.
Yes, a guy jokes off and stomach should be marck's course, but you continue to work anyway to defend them. John grudden member that no, he he was a coach for the time. V box, yeah, it's a sports team.
I know you are not um i've heard of okay just be a coach for the radars in the interm he worked for usp n and he was talking to the owner of the red 是 online his body he was friends with them and they were sitting on Roger g。 Adele, the commissioner, the league good for any called them the effort for days yeah whatever and they were like you said in was in league emails into investigation into don snider. They onor the rest. They onor the recent and they leaked this stuff on purpose um and they go, what's that he might go OK either a homophone slr or it's an employee privately with another employee talking shit about their boss who's by the way, heera is .
that confirmed?
I don't know he's more than than fuck to deal in. But so it's just a guy talking about about their boss privately. That doesn't sound nearly as bad. Defend them, play the defendant game and you're realized or actually people are not these .
ever monsters you think I love you forbidden is only people, you know.
research IT. It's almost like a me play with. You can do that house party but people I don't want to be the one defending, especially liberals or actually the other way yeah if it's like super republicans yeah most of us are in the middle of eighty percent of us in the middle somewhere and the fuck can vocal parts of each side are way, way out there lam, it's like the fucking ones running and know the fucking bomb makers yeah the most of them just like you put a lovely wife yeah exactly. Um so they don't like IT if you pull fucked in A O C out, you know about something and you are if I had a hard core republican you like, but like you ve got a defender defender and you like, let me look into this and this kind of debate club and you realize no one's, if I can monster the monster are again doesn't work with the the .
accused handle it's a fun game at a party you put the people's unity .
people's named in a hat and you pick one out and you go go have you ever depended .
someone you don't like?
Yeah the time and you realized, oh shit, if that I was my friend, I would see the good of them. That's not the case. Or this story is wrong, where they left out a certain part of the story to get their way.
You know, uh, the cops in the ruby king beating know that how to cut out the first seven minutes, of course. And it's like, doesn't excuse beating someone much, but IT does somewhat excuse IT does explain a Better exactly. He's fighting to a stand deal with three cops the way if you punch you up, they're gona punch you back. Yes, they're gonna go hard. Yes, that's the deal and he's fighting to a stance.
There were three them and they come in like, you don't do our fucking and friends, but if you start with seven cubs beating a guy like he is defenseless, you like, well, yeah, you not see in the whole story if I call you a piece of a shit and then we cut you walking alone IT looks like you're walking sad alone because I called you a piece of shit. But that's not the real story. You will have a good time.
exactly.
So anyway, defend them with a fun .
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defend you OK. Yeah.
alright. Yes, a good guy. yeah. I thank you.
Thank you. She's fan.
It's all these people. And like, he's an he was an anti war guy at fox news who follow the dead. He's not. How was he that guy that you .
think we can be entitle into a fascist? It's .
race. Da fa, no, no, no, no.
Because I learned you can't even call Roger a dell.
That, yeah, exactly.
I wonder.
body was great to, I want you to my travel bus done I know you well yeah, it's tripping just about a place, no politics.
And this one thing I ve done, a lot of this travel. Yeah, yeah. And I think it's, I think it's the most educational thing you can do.
Yeah, I really believe that I don't know more people don't do IT I rich people in this country, but they don't travel right like they go. They kind of recreate their own lives with Better service in a foreign country. But the whole point of travels .
to learn how other people live a hundred. Hello, get the york times here good at all. I do IT OK perfect OK you have in new york well, or whatever.
Let's do IT right. OK. Thanks, thanks, thanks. Thanks for listing.
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