Make America Sisterly Again: Monday, September 23rd, 2024
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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Chose and happy Monday. And I know it doesn't sound great. I know. Do you have something to offer us? You would be right about that. You don't have something to offer us on the bright side? I'm just a girl. Like how much I have to put the weight of the world on my shoulders on a Monday morning? Well, one thing that's happening today is that we're feeling green, apparently. Green with envy. We're kind of the green girls.

The Jolly Green Giant. I am definitely a Jolly Green Giant. Yes, we are both wearing green. I don't know what it's like where you live, but it is officially like the first working day of fall. Fall began yesterday or Saturday, right? In an official capacity. So there's a lot of debate over whether or not the season started on the 20th or the 21st. I'm kind of a 21st swirly, but that's just me. If you were to like go, if I was to go on Jeopardy and you were to ask me like what day did the season start? I too would have said the 21st. I didn't even know there was this nationwide debate about it.

It's a debate between me and my friend Rebecca because her birthday's on March 20th and she insists it's the first day of spring. And I say, Rebecca, like the solstices are there on the 21st. Okay, so you're just kind of being negative because she wants to say her birthday is on the first day of spring. And like, let's just let her say it, you know? I'm a stickler. You are such a stickler, so much so to the point where you would destroy your friend's birthday for the rules. Destruction. Destruction.

Oh my goodness. Destruction. But yes, we are feeling green. We're feeling fall. What can we say? I think today is the day where I am going to whip out the first crock pot of the season. No liner. No liner. What you making, Turt? I'm not sure. Well, I woke up. It's literally the high of the day is said to be 70, which I know sounds high, but like last week it was in the 80s. Like serious hell.

So temperatures are coming down. It's not supposed to be sunny today. And over the weekend, I started Gilmore Girls. So I'm really in my crockpot season. And I want to talk about Gilmore Girls, if you'll allow it, just for a minute. I'll give a little bit of space. Just a little bit. And it's not really deserving of that much more space. So let me say this. Okay.

Kate could. I have never seen Gilmore Girls. It's just like a fun fact about me. Neither have I. That's why I'm only giving it a little space. We weren't a Gilmore family. Like a category that just like doesn't interest me. I can't explain it. It was a part of like entertainment and media that just sort of bypassed us as young girls. And I knew like kind of nothing about it. Um,

And I have tried once before to watch it, like last year, 'cause my Netflix, it was like resume episode one, season one. I had watched 10 minutes. It didn't do it for me. I don't know why. I just maybe wasn't in the right space. But I am in the exact space I need to be in to let this into my life and sort of receive it. And I am enjoying immensely. It is such a good show. That bitch Rory can scram. Like the scenes that she's not in are a joy and the scenes that she's in are just destructive. And I could tell she gets worse. Like I could tell.

- I love it, I love it. I don't really have complex thoughts 'cause somebody, I read this and it's so true, Gilmore Girls is a show where truly nothing happens. I don't have hot takes. It's just a nice show. And I like a lot of the characters. I love Melissa McCarthy, I love Lorelai, I love the grandparents. So it's good, it's good, I really like it. - The grandma's really making news because her book just came out. She wrote memoirs of a Rory's grandma. - Memoirs of a Gilmore.

If only. If only. Yes, she's making news. So I feel like, and it's also a show that, it doesn't exclusively take place during the fall season, but it's a show that has become synonymous with fall. It's very fall vibes, like cozy. It's a cozy show. And I'm so glad I started it when I did. Ben has weirdly seen it, because I think Maddie, his sister, grew up loving it. And so...

When the theme song comes on, like he literally knows all the words. It's really weird. When you're out on the road. It's actually a good theme song. It's like a regular song, you know? Yeah. It's Carole King. Beautiful. Call my name and I'll be there on the next train. If you lead, I will follow. I will follow.

♪ Anywhere ♪ That's it, and it's actually oddly, nobody in the show is Jewish. - Actually, I could see Ben knowing all the words to that song 'cause he just knows that song rather than- - Ben is so Carole King coded. - Right? I feel like probably like he grew up with it playing in the house. - 1000%, I actually think Ben and his parents saw "Beautiful", the Carole King musical, somewhat recently on Broadway. - 100%.

Oh, and the show is oddly, there's no Jewish characters in the show, but it's like Jewish coded. Like so many of the jokes you could tell were like written by a Jew. And that's because Amy Sherman Pelletino, the creator, is a Jewess. She wrote Marvelous Miss Maisel as well. Interesting. So I highly recommend it. I do think you'd like it. A lot.

Like I still haven't gotten back into Desperate Housewives. Like that's what's waiting for me every night. But then I just get sort of overrun by administrative tasks around the house. So like my content plate is full. If I ever had an opening, I would put Gilmore Girls in there. But.

Did you get my Instagram message this morning? Yeah, but my story had been deleted. What were you talking about? Did you post a picture that you were reading The Long Island Compromise? I did. Okay, that's what I thought you were responding to. The reason why the story's not available, I couldn't see what you were responding to, is because I deleted the story like 10 minutes after I posted it because I was reading the book and I was like...

I don't know if I'm gonna finish this. - Jackie? - So I don't wanna be like tethered to having to give a review of the book. - It was my book club choice of the month that we're supposed to be meeting tonight. Not one person, except for the person who chose it, sorry Abe, not one other person finished the book. We're not meeting.

What percent did you get to? I must be at, there's four chapters. So I'm in the middle of the second chapter. Okay. And it really pains me. I don't want to like on my platform bash a book about a Jewish family written by a Jewess. No, the thing is I don't feel akin to like the Judaism here. It's giving like,

Okay, here's what I said. Too much. Here's what I said. Not to be anti-Semitic, but it's a little too much. No, here's what I said about the Judaism in the book. And seriously, I fucking hate this book with every fiber of my being. The writer is talented in the way that she was able to, out of thin air, create some of the worst human beings to ever exist. Like, if I ever met one of these fucks in the street, oh my God, Beamer, it would be over. Now,

What I had said when I first started reading the book, and I intended on finishing it, but I wrote in the book club thing, I'm like, I'm immediately disliking the book because it is that brand of Judaism that's so corny. And like, you just know if any non-Jew or anyone with like a slight dislike for Jews picked up this book, they would hate Jews even more. Like,

ha, nose job, ha, McMansions, ha, funny. The nose job. Like I thought it was so cheap. And then the actual, once I was able to get past that, the actual plot of the book, like the, I just, oh my God, Jackie, run for your life, run fast for your mother, run fast for your father. So let me tell you, I got,

on this book because Dana recommended it. She finished it. She said that she loved it. And then this author also wrote a book called Fleischman is in Trouble, which was a TV show. I didn't read the book, but I watched the TV show. And I can't say that I liked the TV show, but

I felt a lot of feelings when watching the TV show and I actually referenced it a lot because basically, I doubt you're going to watch it. It's about this guy, Fleischman. He's like leaving his naggy bitch wife. He's in trouble. He's in trouble. He's leaving his wife. She's like a bitch. He's taking the kids and oh, it's so hard for Fleischman and he works so hard and it's so sad and his wife is so mean. And it's like six episodes of Fleischman trying to like navigate divorce and his wife like kind of like goes off the grid. And then we get one episode from the wife's point of view. Oh, I love it.

It was amazing. Oh, I love. I always just like reference like things can be very Fleischman where if you talk to this one person, it's like so sad and his wife is so mean and Fleischman is so bad. And then like when you talk to his wife, it's like seriously, fuck Fleischman. Jackie.

I think we need to add that to our list of theories. The Fleischman theory, where it's like, you're the problem. I love that. Yeah, no, or like you, it depends who you're sitting down with. Right. Because at the end of the series, like his best friend, who's played by Janice Ian, who was there for him the entire show, she's in all the previous episodes, like she's his friend listening to him, feeling sorry for him. And then the last episode, she runs into the wife in the park and gets her side of the story. Got it, got it. I mean, history is written by the victors. Yeah. So I...

I didn't like the show because it was a little bit insufferable, but like I enjoyed the premise and I thought it was pretty smart. So I was like, oh, Dana read her next book and she said it was really good. Okay. But honestly, I'm 10% in and I've had the thought a lot of times like Dana liked this book so much. Oh my God. It's just horrible. It is. I think it's so bad for our people. Like I find, I actually found it offensive. I agree. And if you told me that like an undercover anti-Semite wrote this book, I would believe you.

Yeah. So that makes me feel better in terms of not finishing it because also I'm like bumping into like Redheads recording next week. I got to start the Redheads book. Which I've heard is amazing, by the way. I know. I'm so excited. We're reading Husbands and Lovers by Beatrice Williams. And the thing is, if I loved this book I'm reading right now, I could plow through it and finish it with...

plenty of time to read Redhead's book but this is going to be like a three week endeavor so I think that's why hence why I deleted my story because I was like actually maybe I'm not currently reading this book no this book tore my book club burnt my book club to the ground we're not even meeting this month that's how bad that book was okay

And I don't even know if everybody agrees with my reasons for hating it, but obviously everybody hated it too. They literally didn't finish it. It's just so chewy. Like so many words. Get an editor. Okay. True. And it's so long. And I don't need to hear, I feel this way about a lot of books. Like I don't need to hear every semi-interesting thought you think you've ever had in your life. Like pare it down. Yeah. A thousand percent. It's chewy. I'm so glad I was able to stop you. Like,

I can't believe you even knew what that book was. I know. I thought that's the story you were responding to, but I was like, there's no way. It's horrible. You should watch Fleischman. I should. It's a win for the Nagy Bitch Wives, even though, oh, by the way, I just kind of like gave the whole thing away. Yeah, right, right. I bet like watching it was a fun experience. Thanks. Yeah. Except it's also about, you know, character development and whatever. Classic. Classic.

So many things to discuss. One, we would be absolutely remiss, devastated, and heartbroken if we didn't wish a huge mazel tov to our TNN star, Shannon Ford, who got married over the weekend in Positano. Like, so sick. I need her to post more pictures. So sick she looked. So sick. The way every few hours I was, like, going back to Shannon's Instagram to see if she had, like, posted new content. And Queen, like,

We ate. She was feeding us. She knew everyone was waiting and she wasn't being annoying, like holding back. Yeah, no, she was doing, but you also know she's like busy on the dance floor. She can only like post so much in the moment, but she was giving us like what we needed. Like we needed to see the dress. We absolutely did. Then she was reposting like other people's stories. And today, obviously like she sat down in front of her desktop and is getting to work on giving us all the content.

Thousand percent. On her desktop on a sailboat, I believe. She's on on the Mualfi Coast. Thank you, ma'am, for the Lord's work. You looked so gorgeous. And it's a shining star here at Toast News Network. And we love her. No, I literally, I was teary-eyed. She posted one photo and I seriously like had tears in my eyes. Just, she looks so happy. So beautiful. She's such a great person. I like, I'm so like proud of myself to call her a friend. So true. Like, she's just such a wonderful person. And she likes us.

And yeah, no, that's what I mean. Like proud of myself that I could be a friend to a girl like her. She stayed at your house. She stayed at my house, right? She gave me shingles. Like, I love her. Right, right, right, right, right.

So huge muscle, like truly. And you know, kind of the rumor mill was ablaze. Like, "Dirty, why were you there?" Like everyone was talking about me. - Same here, same here. - Yeah, we had a falling out with Shannon. Like it's really bad. Like we're not friends anymore. - People were saying too, like she stayed at your house. Like why didn't you go to her wedding? And it was 'cause she gave me shingles. - Right, right. - So we're in a fight. - You drew the line at shingles.

No, I actually had so much going on this weekend. I went to a wedding last night. Like, it was just kind of a, you know, I don't think I've been to a wedding, a Jewish wedding. I actually have not been to a wedding in a really long time. But I haven't been to a Jewish wedding since October 7th. And let me tell you, they hit different. Oh, my God. At the end of the ceremony, they played the national anthem, the Hatikvah, Israeli national anthem. Not a dry eye in the house. Nice touch. Really nice touch. I liked it. I was like, I want to get remarried so I can do that. And they had this beautiful choir. I was like, seriously? Yeah.

And then, you know, like you're sitting at a ceremony, you're hot, you're like ready for the bar to open. Like you're ready. Oh, I was sat. Well, I was standing, but you know what I mean? Emotionally, I was sat. Beautiful, really classy touch. Beautiful weekend for weddings. I feel like this also was the 21st of September, as I learned from Shannon's stories. Like, do you remember? Which is such a wedding song. For a wedding on September 21st.

Yeah, so just kind of like big weekend. Oh, and I also wanted to talk about, like shout out, wanted to send love to Bridget who shared, if you guys know Bridget from The Bar, she's like the creator of The Bar. She's also like a huge content creator who had the sickest wedding on the planet. She shared on Instagram yesterday that she was diagnosed with breast cancer and she just shared this like really raw emotional video. I was shocked. Me too. I think we've all been following her journey to getting pregnant. She's been like super vulnerable, like posting in real time everything that's been going on. And...

Oh my God, I was so sad for her. And I know she like listens to the show sometimes. So I just want to like send her the biggest hug. I felt so sad watching her video. You could tell she was like processing a whole, like this huge piece of news in real time. Yeah. I feel like so many people love her and are connected to like her and her content. She's a great like creator in that sense where it really feels like you know her. I mean, I feel like we know her and we've never met her. Yeah. So it was just like, so, so sad to see. And like, I think everyone who knows her is just like wishing her the best, praying for her and like,

sending her so much love wrapping their arms around her totally so so are we

So, so are we. I like that saying. I, by the way, I like that saying. I also like the saying, because people said this to me when I was dealing with like Theo, they were like, Trini, we're lifting you up in prayer. And I think it's like a Christian thing, but like everyone prays. I love it. Like I think it's the nicest. Like if you pray, you can lift. Or they say like, we're wrapping you in our prayers. Like it's so lovely. It's a warm hug. It's a warm hug. I'm Olaf. I like warm hugs. You are Olaf and you do like warm hugs.

I do not like warm hugs. Let me tell you that. I like a proverbial warm hug. She likes a practical warm hug. A stiff handshake. And keep it cold. I want a cold hand. I do not want to shake a warm hand. How are the stories today, by the way? The stories are really good. Some of them are actually like really toast coated, I would say. Like really important that we address certain things. Maybe another show, like in a good way. I'm actually really excited to get your...

on those things. Oh, John Mulaney. But that's for everyone. You know John Mulaney's super fan over here. Yeah, no, but that's for everyone. That's like the top story for all the pop culture girlies today. I think wherever you get your pop culture news, you would hear about that. Some of the other things, I don't know if they would get into it. I don't know if you'd even expect it. I'm dying to know what you're referring to now. Should I give you guys a brief... I feel like that's a cute idea. At the top of the show, why don't you say...

Stay tuned for XYZ. Okay.

Stay tuned for Hayden Panettiere's take on her viral interview, Olivia Munn and John Mulaney's pregnancy, I mean baby announcement at this point, a feud between sisters and sisters. I know. TN to Mara Mowry, an influencer banned from TikTok, we shall discuss. And fans believing there is something going on between Sabrina, Camilla, and Sean after all. There is something going on. We'll have it all after the break. I love that. Okay.

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Our first story. So Hayden Penetier is addressing the People Magazine interview that we discussed last week that people thought was concerning and exploitative. So Hayden took- No, that was concerning and exploitative. Well, you know, alleged. It's all alleged. I guess. Hayden took to Instagram. She posted a Garchi Parchee photo of herself and she said, I would like to take a moment to address the controversy surrounding an interview I recently completed with People Magazine.

So she's saying like they took out the good part.

I was exhausted. My rep stopped the interview early as it became obvious that I was fading, especially as the subject matter became heavier. We asked the interview if we could redo it another day or a follow-up interview on Zoom. She assured us that it wasn't necessary and that she felt it was an emotional and heartfelt interview. We were also told they would edit it and that it would be a beautiful piece. The magazine does not grant approval for images or videos interviews before they run. We see the interview when it goes live.

Yeah, so she's kind of corroborating what we all said. It was exploitative. Yes, but I feel like she's also like not exactly saying like shame on People Magazine while she's also like holding space for like shame on this process and also like anyone who had anything negative to say. And I just want to say like, I'm sure there were negative comments. Probably there always are. But like the overwhelming amount of comments and especially the top comments were like, this is wrong. Hayden, we love you. Like,

take your time. Like we're rooting for you. Yeah. They were in defense of her. I do feel like this is one time where it's like, it's, it wasn't her being criticized by people by lowercase P people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I feel like she caps. Yeah. She probably misunderstood like the backlash, but also you have to think about, cause we were saying like,

You know, the amount of people that made this possible, especially people that work for her, managers, publicists who sat by and watch us, like, are those people also running her social media? Right, because they're like, hey, we pulled her out when she got tired. Because I feel like one of my takeaways after seeing the interview was like the people who are surrounding Hayden Panettiere are BFAs, bad faith actors. And are those people also writing captions for her social media? Like, perhaps.

perhaps, but I do like want to operate under the guise that this is her. Otherwise, like what are we even talking about? It's just like a bunch of people, BFA's talking to each other. And then she also said this, grief looks different on everyone. Whether or not I'm on medication is none of anyone's business and is in between me and my doctor. I'm doing interviews to promote,

promote my new film because I'm proud of it. The real issue here is the toxicity of social media and a new cycle that is driven by clickbait. Mental health is so important. I hope those reading this now understand that you say hiding behind a computer screen can have a detrimental impact on someone. For those of you who have come to my defense and miss this chaos, I am so grateful. So like, that's the piece where it's like, I don't know how many like keyboard warriors this was about. Like this was really about people magazine.

Yeah, obviously, but her caption is sort of directed at like haters where there aren't any. Like I'm sure, yeah, there's a couple. I'm sure there always are. But it's like a weird response. It's like sort of kind of entirely missing the point. And she's right. Like her being medicated is between her and her doctor. But, you know, it's natural for people who care about her to be concerned because she has, you know, publicly spoken about her struggles with addiction. So I feel like confused. Yeah. Yeah.

It's an odd response. It's like, hey, X. And then she says, okay, Y. Like, who is she mad at? I know who I'm mad at. Like, who is she mad at? Sounds like she was taking it out like on the comment section. Whereas the comment section from where I stood was fiercely in defense of her. Yeah. At least top comments. And those are the ones most popular, most hearted. Maybe if you scroll all the way down, people would have something mean to say. They always do. But like, that wasn't the...

It appears as though she misunderstood the saga. And I think she was trying to also explain her performance in the interview. Like, that's why you see me being this way. I was just like very tired. Well, the thing is with the dogs, like it's, it's giving dog ate my homework. You know, what is like objection relevance? She was tired. And so her eyes are closing. She's falling asleep. Okay. Okay. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Well, I wonder what her new movie is because that point was missed. And as always, like the toast stands with Hayden Panettiere. Like the toast is wrapping her in prayer and lifting her up. I love this woman. And I don't feel like she wrote this caption. I'm sorry.

Or like she wrote the first draft and then the BFAs came in and said like, you're not putting this on us, Hayden. Took like a, did a once over. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if she has access to like post, press post on her own Instagram. Right. But I also don't follow her closely enough to say if she behaves in a way that looks like it's her. Like, does she do stories? No. Right. Right. Like what is her relationship with her social media prior to this? It doesn't look like she's... Running it herself? Yeah. Yeah.

I think the movie's called Amber Alert. Chilling. Yeah. Well, sending love to Hayden as always. As always. Nothing's changed there. For us.

Are you ready for our next story? Where in some things have changed for Olivia Munn and John Mulaney because they've welcomed another baby via surrogate after Olivia Munn's breast cancer journey. So Olivia Munn and John Mulaney, our parents again, they took to Instagram on Sunday to announce the arrival of their daughter who was born via surrogate. They said, my June Mulaney came into the world September 14th, 2024, the year of the dragon, the Instagram caption announced. It's May. She said it in the caption. It's pronounced M-A-Y. Apologies. Apologies.

I love these two. You can never make me hate these two. And they tried and they tried and they tried. And it's really like a beautiful ending because she also had shared that she had a hysterectomy due to her health issues. Obviously she had major surgeries with her breast cancer, hysterectomy being one of them. So to be able to welcome a baby via surrogate is such a blessing when maybe they thought that this would never happen for them. So

I love them. And the other kid's name is Malcolm. So Malcolm and May, like so cute. So cute. I love that she is so like into her heritage. And he talked a lot about that when I saw him live perform in the Hamptons about how like, and he was making so many funny jokes about like her, his in-laws and like, you know, their customs. They live with him.

her mother lives with him, but also they always just have like a million family members coming through the house. And he was saying how, you know, they're very direct in their questions. And it was very respectful, but still really funny. And I just...

I just fucking love these two. Okay. Sorry. And I have from the beginning. I'm not one of these bandwagoners who are like, oh, well, now that they have a family, they're really cute. For me, obsessed from day one. No. And for me, these two fall into a list or a category that I would say of two people who individually I didn't give much thought to, but together as a couple,

I love. And not to bring him into it because he is her ex, but like coincidentally, Aaron Rodgers and Shailene Woodley also fall into that category. Yeah, no. And their place in Hollywood and in entertainment is in...

What's the word I'm looking for? I was going to say interesting. I was going to say interesting and fascinating. It's fascinating. Of course, the Anna Marie Tendler of it all. Like, oh my God, the lore there goes on for years. Like the thing is, I'm not on the Anna Marie Tendler cruise ship of discovery. Yeah, I know. I stayed there. Like, I know. Because I think the way people like,

talk about them and then like how her behavior was on the internet shortly after was so crazy. Like to me, it's sort of one of my Roman empires. And I didn't even care about them when they were together. For a lot of people it is. For me, it's just like another guy who like, you know, split with his wife and moved on. Right. No, and it sucks. It sucks. And one day we're going to tell a story about John Mulaney and Olivia Munn and we're not going to bring up AMT. I don't know that we are. I wouldn't make a promise that we can't. Claudia, one day...

Oh, I was like, what song? It took me like a minute to get there. I think it's called One Day You Will. I thought you were going to say, one day, Mati Siajo, one day, one day. Also a good one. Also a good one. No, but One Day We Will. Today's not that day, apparently. And tomorrow won't be either. No, no. But like One Day in the Future, A.M.T. Who? Right. Right.

And I love that Olivia Munn like got into this relationship and just like, I just love like that. She like doesn't work. She's a mom. He makes so much money. I, and every time they share like a little glimpse of their life, like he, she had posted a couple of pictures of,

announcing the birth and then like you saw obviously that they live on the water like obsessed like is that their house in front of this balcony at his comedy show he said he lives in orange county so you can live on the water and i guess like the baby in his arms is literally a few days old like where are they going yeah yeah you wouldn't be at like a hotel unless they like went to be with near the surrogate when she gave birth and they're saying unless the surrogate lives in like atlantic beach and that's the the pacific you know the atlantic excuse me

That would be crazy. That would be crazy. But I assume the surrogate lived in California. Yeah. Well, definitely probably in California because they have like good laws for surrogacy. Exactly. A lot of people go there. I think if you live in California, you wouldn't need to leave state for a surrogate. It's like a good environment for surrogacy. I think if you want to become a surrogate, you might live in California for the opportunity. Because you're the elk of a dreamer. You are the elk of a dreamer. And maybe you'll buy a lotto ticket. Whilst pregnant. Yeah.

I'm so happy for these two. I love them. I definitely feel like the temperature on the culture, like people like them a lot now. But I'm proud to say like I liked them from day one. I wasn't like up in arms when this happened. I'm proud to say I wasn't up in arms. Yeah, and I usually am. Like I love to be up in arms. It's kind of one of my favorite places to be. Except when other people are up in arms, then you don't want to be up in arms. No, when everyone's up in arms, like...

I love to not be because I'm so chill. You love to lay down your arms. You look like clowns and I'm over here just being like at peace. Yeah. Well, that's actually a great segue into our next story. So even though I tease the stories in a certain way, I'm going to move some things around because it's speaking to a theme about something people are up in arms about on both sides of the

Yes. An influencer has been banned from TikTok over her dangerous weight loss advice. So an influencer named Liv Schmidt was recently banned from TikTok for sharing controversial weight loss advice. And she's clapping back after her content was labeled dangerous and harmful. She had recently amassed a following of almost 700,000 people with her videos that experts and dietitians have described as demonstrating an unhealthy devotion to being thin.

Critics argued that she was glamorizing eating disorders by emphasizing it is important to stay skinny and they called for her work to be removed. TikTok has since taken action shutting down her account and stating she violated community guidelines with her disordered eating posts.

While many applauded the move, the influencer Liv Schmidt, who lives in New York, has been quick to defend her controversial advice for garnering widespread outrage. She said, for me and my personal aesthetic, I like to be skinny and there's nothing wrong with that. She said weight is a touchy subject, but that's what the viewers want. She also claimed her desire to save America from obesity one person at a time. That was her bio in her now deleted TikTok.

So I just wanna say really quickly before we get into the thoughts on banning her, I had heard about this girl on TikTok, her content never once came up on my page. Every influencer on the planet was making videos of them eating lunch and being like, "Eating for Liv Schmidt." Seriously, they didn't actually say that, you know what I mean? But all these other content creators who were seemingly offended by her content for whatever reasons, and valid or not,

They made her famous. I had never heard of this girl until everyone was like rebutting and responding to her content. So I want to say that the people that hated her made her huge. I just want to say I heard of her one time before this and it was because it was someone else like talking about her. And I think knowing the way that TikTok works and knowing like this isn't the sort of content that TikTok wants to be.

They definitely like weren't pushing her in the algorithm. So that's probably why you didn't see her, but why you saw other influencers like with an opposite take on,

that was fed to you. No pun intended. The thing about her content, I don't like, it was very like, it was, that's the perfect way. I forget what you just read, like this obsession with being thin, like, and it was very like almond mom, early nineties toxicity, like shit you would hear like back in the day. Now in terms of her content, did I find it offensive? No. Was it, did I ever feel compelled to follow? No, like it wasn't for me. And that's totally fine. There's a lot of content on the internet that is not for you.

I think the concept of getting rid of her profile, first of all, makes it bigger. Like now we are giving a bigger platform to her philosophy. Look, we're talking about it. So I think it's ineffective. I think it actually has an opposite sort of effect. You always empower people that way. And two, like while I think the content was like kind of crazy, I don't,

think she should have been banned. I think that's like the opposite of this great country, you know? - Yeah, I agree. I think we see a lot of problematic content on TikTok or hear about a lot of problematic content on TikTok and like problematic trends that are emerging, you know, the simping for Osama bin Laden being one of them. - No, I wish TikTok had been as swift in, you know, banning anti-Semitic accounts or bigoted accounts or like there are so many issues. - No, but if you're gonna like let everyone like,

run rampant and say what they want, then like, why are you going to ban this person? Because she violates a community guideline about promoting disordered eating. That's such a vague term. And I can think of so many other content creators who promote disordered eating in other ways that are not banned. Well, you do have to then also think about the opposite side of the spectrum. And I don't know if you know who Nico Avocado is. No, I have a feeling I'm about to find out. So Nico Avocado was like a mook, is, excuse me, a mook banger.

And there has been this... Mukbang is disordered eating content. Of course it is. Fitting and binging in your car, going to multiple places. He took it to an extreme where he was making videos, collabing with other people. And then he just sort of became this homebody who did these huge... And he eventually, as of a couple of months ago, I think gained...

I wanna say two to 300 pounds. Like there were these before and afters, very average looking person. And then in a matter of years, due to your job and people were like, well, this is so sad. Like mukbang culture has gone too far. And actually a recent update in the Nico Avocado saga is that apparently for the last year, he'd been posting old prerecorded videos and he posted that he actually has lost all the weight and he posted a new video like I'm back.

which is also unhealthy to like go up in hundreds of pounds and down in hundreds. But he's like a celebrity. No one has really ever said this is problematic. Like, and so to censor one side of the coin and not the other, that's unfair too. That's wrong. It's wrong. So,

I don't know. And this is how I always feel about like any content on the Internet. Like if you don't like it, don't engage with it. That's totally fine. There's people I mean, think about politics, like people who post about politics on the Internet, complete opposite sides of the spectrum. But that's their, you know, right to do so. And they're they're opposing things on the Internet. And that's kind of what makes the Internet fun sometimes is that like they're crazy, you know, outlandish things being said on all sides about every topic.

Yeah. And the thing is, like, if you want to censor speech, which I think in general, we're pro free speech girlies. But if you're going to censor speech, say this is a perfect example around disordered eating, then then it needs to be all disordered eating, not just like one kind that you don't like, because the guy that you just explained to me actually sounds like a worse influence. What he did was more unhealthy than this girl trying to stay skinny.

Yeah, and then there actually a lot of people are bringing up Eugenia, who I'm sure you don't know. She is a active influencer on all platforms, TikTok included, with like almost a million followers who actively has anorexia. And she probably weighs like 75 pounds. Anytime she's come up on my – it's actually jarring to see. So that's okay, right? And she doesn't talk about – she just like dances and stuff. She does like influencer-y type things. So she's just like skinny and dancing? Yeah.

Yeah. And so she should be banned for the way she looks. If someone who was morbidly obese got banned for dancing, being unhealthy weight, you'd be mad for that too. So why should Eugenia be banned? No, she shouldn't. But people are saying like, why is, why is Eugenia different than Lipschmidt? Like why has Lipschmidt, Lipschmidt has sort of become this like villain, right?

Of some sort of movement because all the influencers like on social media decided they didn't like what she posted and they started posting about her. But there are other people like Liv Schmidt, I would say even more crazy than Liv Schmidt on, you know, on obesity side, on anorexic side, who have not, they have yet to ever remove someone's entire profile because of their weight stuff.

So why now? Why this Liv Schmidt? No, why? Like Liv Schmidt is kind of becoming like a face of some sort of movement. And I think it's because she looks like a lot of influencers that you follow, but she says stuff that they don't say. And all these other influencers, like they made her huge. They don't even realize what they did in their rebuttal videos. Also what's so funny is what you just said. She looks like all these other influencers that you follow. So it's like all those other, a lot of those other influencers probably have a similar personality

They want to be thin. They work out. They eat very healthy. They sometimes probably do disordered eating where they're like skip lunch. Like what she said, it's important to stay skinny. They probably feel that way too. Of course. It's a part of their job. And like, you want to work in fashion. You want to go to fashion shows. Hi, hello. I used to be like huge. And I could tell you the opportunities you get as a skinny influencer versus the opportunities you get as a fat influencer are completely different. And you get more as a skinny influencer, especially in the fashion space. Yeah. Yeah.

So yeah, she's saying the quiet part out loud. Right. No, I don't think that's worthy of a ban in a space that like doesn't ban actually horrible people. It's really crazy that they banned her. Yeah. And they've oddly like made her a hero because she shouldn't have been banned. Yeah, they've made her a hero. Like here I am, Liv Schmidt.

- Support group, I don't know this girl. - The way they talk about her, it was like she was live streaming from the toilet making herself throw up. That's not what she was doing. She was just saying like snarky things about like wanting to be skinny. - That's so crazy. - It's nothing you haven't heard in every like 90s rom-com. - And then are there influencers who used to talk about her content? Like are they talking about the band like supporting her being banned? - Oh, I haven't seen that yet. I'm sure that they are. - Because seriously, like that's insane. - No, they made this girl a star. - Yeah.

And yes, she doesn't look that different. No, but if your job is content creation, like you should see the value in a platform that like uplifts free speech. And sure, maybe on this one, like your cause one, but like you're just like welding the bat that would eventually bring you down to. It's really crazy to ban someone on social media. Like sometimes I'm like scrolling Instagram live. There are people like cleaning their AR-15s, whatever it's called, AK-47. I thought you were going to say...

People cleaning their arses. By the way, there's that too. Do you know how much porn I get tagged in on Instagram? Like, it's absurd. They air RSEs. When you think about the things that don't get banned, Osama bin Laden, gate of 2023. Right. But Liv Schmidt, this little girl who just like wants to be skinny. Too little. Too little.

It's so crazy and it is absurd and it's wrong because it was a bad move because one, they're making her bigger when they wanted to silence her and two, you're making her out to be a hero. And I believe that the platform was already silencing her in the ways that a platform

can you know like not on people's repressing her content you have to follow her in order to see herself shadow banning sort of stuff because they do that verify they're not like platforming her like so I feel like some people they like want to blow up push yeah they push and she was not getting the push and I feel like that's a good way of tamping down content that might be harmful don't maybe don't feed Liv Schmidt to 13 year old girls right and

No, it's just, I find it interesting that TikTok now has like a vested interest in the wellbeing of society because up until this point, it's been abundantly clear that they don't. No, and everybody runs around Instagram and TikTok like pretending to be a nutritionist.

um for good for better for worse right I get a lot of like really great content um a lot of the people that I actually am influenced by aren't dietitians and that's fine I think a lot of dietitians are really great and some of them are probably like ineffective too um why Liv Schmidt like she's certainly not like the biggest one doing it no and like at the end of the day nothing she said was like a legal or hate speech like and I think disordered eating is a really really

It's a big umbrella term. Like I had said vague, but it's not vague. It's just, it could mean so many different things. It's a spectrum. It's a spectrum. Yes, exactly. And so I think there are people, especially like from the ED community, who have a really loose term of what they would consider to be disordered eating, but that's because they are vulnerable to that. And that's totally true.

totally valid, but that's on them and that's part of their community. And that's something they need to look out for when they, you know, surf the interwebs. You need to be very, you need to protect yourself. Everybody has their own triggers, right? But that doesn't mean that other people should be silenced to, to protect your triggers. To accommodate you. I agree. Are there ways for you to like put,

into your For You page that you don't want to see. Yes. That sounds like a good tool for people who have triggers. You know, I had to put TikTok shop in my band because I couldn't deal with TikTok. Were you shopping until you dropped? No, oh my God. The content was just like, I wasn't getting anyone's organic content. When you promote products on TikTok shop, you make money. So the most annoying fucking content, you have to get this hair curl. Like, shut up. Oh my God, I'm cracking up. So I put hashtag TikTok shop in my band content.

I thought you were shopping too much. Like me at HomeGoods. Did you hear on Saturday that like we all went to HomeGoods. We took two cars so that Zach could keep his empty so I could load up. I heard. I read about it in Pitch Tech. So the whole crew went to HomeGoods. We all went. And yeah, no, I got my chairs. I got my bosses. Of course, as I was leaving, I saw some things I'll have to go back for. Classic. Classic. But it was a very successful jaunt. So that's kind of like that's kind of my TikTok shop.

Oh, right, right, right. IRL. I do feel like anything from TikTok shop that you just described, like you can get at HomeGoods. You can literally get it on Amazon. You could get it from Alibaba. Everything is like dropshipped from China. I think what I love about HomeGoods, it's the closest thing that I've seen to Amazon IRL.

Yeah, I think what people like about home goods is that it's, you know, a pottery bar to crate and barrel in a much more affordable sense. Like, yeah, the affordability of it. The things that I bought at home goods are things that I would typically buy on Amazon. But the experience of going to Amazon, that's really so it's not like I was like missing out on finding like great things for my kitchen or like to shop for those things in person is more fun.

I also think HomeGoods is a little bit better quality than Amazon. Amazon obviously has like that sort of like made in China vibe. No, and HomeGoods, you can see the scale of things. The issue with Amazon, you want to order a vase, it's this big. You want to order a rug, all of a sudden you got a sample. You guys ever order like an outdoor chair and it's actually for a dog? Like it's tiny. That's happened to me. Right, that can't happen at HomeGoods. It's so true. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Four. No. No.

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Tamara Mowry says, it's just hard to say that. Just by the way. Without saying Tia and Tamara. I know, but Tamara of Tia and Tamara says she didn't know about her sister Tia's new reality show and will likely not be involved. So Tamara revealed that she found out with the rest of the world about her twin sister Tia's upcoming reality series on WE tv titled Tia Mowry, My Next Act due on October 4th. So Tia and Tamara are from sister sister, you know,

Cornerstone of our childhood. Iconic duo. Iconic sisters. And clearly these days they're not speaking much to the point that one doesn't know that the other has a reality show. The chronically online community has long suspected that these two have had some sort of fracture in their relationship. But this is the first like real confirmation we've ever gotten. And

Tia is like being extremely direct. I think it was with entertainment tonight. She's on a red carpet and she was asked about it. She was like, I had no idea. Yeah. She said Tia's living her life right now. And Tia is doing Tia. Um, when they brought up the show in the interview, um, she said, I didn't know. I didn't know until Tia is doing the show or Tamara's doing the show.

Tamara is doing the show. No, Tia's doing the show. Tamara's talking to Entertainment Tonight. Okay. And Tamara had said, I didn't know until I found out with the rest of the world and rolled her eyes about the fact that Tia's doing the show. But I also feel like there's definitely a fracture, like you said, but not the burn it all down type of like...

Never talking again. She's trying to keep a lid on it. Like, oh, I didn't know. You know, Tia's doing Tia. Like, not... But then she also said, like, Tia's at a place in her life where she doesn't want input from me on anything. Not the place in my life. Now, actually, shockingly, people on the internet, and this has been, like, a theory for a while that has, like, no bearing on reality, but this is just what the streets are saying, that a lot of their fracture had to do with Tia... Okay, so...

Tia is divorced? Yes. So here's the description, by the way, for her new show. Tia, the show will follow Tia as she experiences life on her own, separate from her sister with whom she has grown up in the public eye and newly divorced from her ex-husband and fellow actor, Corey Hardrick, with whom she... I just want to say it's actually a good time for her to have a reality show. Like there's a lot going on in her life. Yeah, but even the description of the show says like separate from her sister.

Right. And it's crazy that her sister didn't even know that the show was happening. Also, I feel as though if we want to know more about what happened, there will be crumbs at least in the show because it's a show about her. But people have suspected that their fracture actually had a lot to do with politics. Interesting. Isn't that interesting? But that's just a theory. Which one's which?

I think they thought that like Tia was like conservative and Tamara was liberal. Honestly, like that's just a theory. There's, I just like watch TikToks of people saying that. I can't stress how little factual evidence there is that that was the case. Was one of them on a show, like a talking head show? Yes, the real. Right. Which one? Tamara? Tamara. And was it liberal? Well, they, well, they did it mostly like human interest and, but no, like no. That's not like what-

- Could have said it off. - So the theories was like that her ex-husband like indoctrinated her and like. - Tia's ex, you gotta say, use names. - Oh, sorry, sorry.

Yeah, this is just theories. Like, seriously, I can't stress enough how not true this is. Indoctrinated her to be what? A Republican? Yeah. Oh, no. But again, like. I got to search the husband now, the indoctrinator. The indoctrination of Tamara Mary. He's an actor, so we should know who he is. Well. I think that, like, the whole thing is that we don't. Oh, he looks familiar. He was in Tia and Tamara. You're lying. Corey Hardrict. Oh, he's cute. He was an American sniper. Yeah.

- Cracking up. - He was in, do you ever hear about this movie called "Karen"? - I did with, with-- - Taryn? - Taryn Manning, my queen. - He was in "Karen". I don't think that was like, wasn't that like a liberal movie? - The thing is, this is not-- - I just don't think it's so cut and dry, you guys. - No, I don't think so either. - How are you in "American Sniper" and "Karen"?

So true. One second movie for conservatives. It's so true. And like, where does Taj fall in all this? You know, their younger brother. Classic younger brother. It's Frankie Jonas, you know? Yeah. I wonder if he's taken aside. Let me look at his social media. I could see him like being in the show, like coming over. He's on a show on Disney Plus. So happy for him. And he most, oh wait, here's the most recent picture with, which twin is it? Tamara. It's sort of like Tia's like on an island of her own.

Yeah, well, Tia says in a teaser for the series, being alone has been the most challenging part of my divorce. It's times like this when I feel and wish that my sister and I were still close and I could pick up the phone and call her. But that's just not where we are right now. Okay, wait, I just want to investigate one more thing. In Tamara's Instagram bio, it says that she is like, she just puts at sister wine. Do you think they're in business together? No, but also Tia saying we're not close, like,

That doesn't give like end of days never coming back from this. Like I could see a season two reunion for Tia and Tamara. Especially if the ex-husband was what was coming between them a little bit. Okay, I'm like seriously confused. It's a lot. By the way, maybe Tamara was the conservative and Tia was the liberal. Don't quote me. I'm not sure.

That is so funny. I actually think that's a decent theory, not because I know anything about the two of them, but because I think that that could come between families and friends. Yeah. It's polarizing times, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, okay, so now I'm looking at Tamara's social media and I don't see like an endorsement or anything, you know? Do you see an endorsement from Tia? I'm on my way. And I just want to say, I feel like if politics are such a big part of their lives that they can't even like be sisters, then they probably are posting about it. So if they're not posting about it, then I don't think it was politics that came between them. Okay, let me see, let me see, let me see. But I just want to say they're both like,

fabulous content creators. Like really premium. They obviously like make reels with their families. They cook. Yum. Bye bye. I don't see anything. I don't think it's political then. Plus if Tamara was the one on the reel, like I don't think, I don't think she'd be the conservative. I don't know. Oh wait. Two days ago, Tia Mowry posted like something about sister sister. Tia. Tia. Cause Tia is kind of the one that's like on the outs. On the outs. Yes. Yeah.

Because Taj and Tamara are hanging out. Yeah. I bet they have like a Reddit where like they know everything. This is all explained. Yeah. Well, I mean, we should just watch the show. Honestly, I'm down. Yeah. No, now I'm curious. Yeah.

Our fifth and final story is for Claudia. My theory that I had heard about politics is actually, now I'm feeling like I'm like, I feel bad for saying because I don't know that it's true. I feel like it was a good guess. I feel like I maybe got the wrong one as like a liberal and a conservative. Well, we definitely covered all the bases and we ideated as if either one was either one. It's a good guess. We'll see.

Yeah. There's like really more damning things you could have said. No, of course, of course. It's so true. And it's just what people on TikTok are saying. And we do need to know like what the smoke is. Who's who? No, that's not what I meant. Oh. Actually, if that's why they split up, we do need to know who's who. But I said we do need to know what the smoke is. Like what are people saying is the reason. Right, right, right. Our fifth and final story is for you and you alone because fans believe that Camila Cabello shaded Sabrina Carpenter weeks after...

Sabrina performed Taste in front of her at the VMAs. So Camila Cabello took the stage at the iHeartRadio Music Festival and she performed her hit song Senorita. Just as she reached the line, but friends don't know the way you taste, she paused dramatically on the word taste. Of course, Sabrina penned the song Taste, which is about

a, not a menage a trois, a love triangle. And I guess people speculated that it's about Sean, Camilla, and Sabrina. And now thinking back to the music video, people are saying like Jenna Ortega was playing Camilla. Okay, by the way, they're saying Tamara on Reddit. I just have to check. They're saying Tamara wants to make America great again. And Tia does not. But Tamara was on The Real wanting to make America great again? Yeah.

This is just what people on Reddit are saying. I had to take to Reddit. You had to for the truth. For the truth. Okay. I just wanted to put to bed. Like I knew my theory. And then I started gaslighting myself. I'm like, wait, maybe I never saw that theory. Got it. Okay. So stay tuned on that. Stay tuned. Yeah. Sorry, Camilla. The thing is, is right now, Camilla shouldn't have said anything because right now you're not going to win.

A couple of years ago, Camila had her big pop star moment that launched her career, right? Havana, ooh na-na. Besties with Taylor Swift, yada yada. Sabrina's currently having that moment. And people, the public's not going to turn on Sabrina and they're not going to make Sabrina the villain in this, even if she is, you know? I don't think she did anything because I don't think anything happened here. But I do think perhaps...

Camilla saw an opportunity. I think like, I didn't think, I think less that there's actual beef between these three now that like Camilla is sort of like playing the role of like, oh, I won't say taste because that's your song about our love triangle that you performed in front of me and my ex man with your little smoochy lips. I think that she just like wants to get in the conversation and that's why she did this.

Yeah, I mean, this is a business. Obviously, these are women in the arts, but these are also women in business. And Camila's been like teasing this really big, you know, music drop and this album and nobody moved, you know, it kind of kind of just I don't want to say flopped, but it didn't make an impact. I don't know if even the whole album came out. I actually think it did. But like she's dropping new music. And this, you know, there was a time where Camila Cabello could not release a song without it being like to the point where it was annoying how much it got played, you know? Yeah.

And that's obviously not the case for her anymore. And so this is a business and everybody's talking about taste. So let her, you know, get involved. Did we discuss on the show, because I'm having deja vu a little bit, like about the possibility that taste is about Sabrina or Sean and Camilla? Obviously. I don't know if we talked about it, but it is. And Jenna Ortega playing Camilla in the music video? Is Camilla. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just not like a theory. It's like kind of fact.

I just didn't think it was like that serious. It wasn't a real love triangle. Well, the thing is, is that Sabrina and Sean were like having this thing. And next thing you know, she opens her phone and that picture of Camilla and Sean at Coachella, she saw it with the rest of the world. And she was like, the fuck? I thought I was seeing this guy. Yeah. And apparently, when I think about the lyrics of Taste, they're just like so like pointed and like,

Like, and also like deep, like, like that she spent like a lot of time with this person. Now he goes back to the like irrelevant and he tastes like her. And it's like, she was kind of the relevant in this situation. Yeah. But she's writing from her own perspective. So she's the main character in it, you know? Yeah. I just, it kind of like takes away from the meaning of taste a little bit. If it really is just about that.

Well, the thing is, is that like for us, the Sean relationship was like non-existent, short-lived. We saw one photo, right? But I think there was much more lore there because a lot of the songs appear to be about him. Sharpest tool in the shed. Like obviously that's him. Also, I think I was thinking about Sabrina, like how is she going to get rid of Barry Keoghan now? It's time for him to go.

I completely agree. Although they are back together. I think she like actually likes him. He had like one movie and he was a big deal. It's not the vibe. He was a big deal for like a few months and that was good that she dated the big deal. But like it's not going well for him. Completely agree. And I just like, I'm not into it visually, emotionally. Like I'm not into it. He's got to scram. I completely agree. When they broke up at the height of like her album being released, I was like, good girl, good girl. But he sucked her back in. Yeah. It's not going to work for me.

I feel like Sabrina is very moved by like physical touch is obviously her love language. And I honestly feel like her and Barry Keoghan might have like an amazing physical connection. And that's just sort of what's keeping her locked in. I think there's plenty of guys she could have amazing physical connection with. Of course. So. No, I don't think he's the one. I don't think he's the one. Like it was a moment in time and the moment's time's up.

And I loved that she was a part of that moment. Yeah. You know, the bathwater of it all. But yeah, I'm in agreement. G2G. Do I want to know what the bathwater means? There's like a scene in that movie that he was in. I thought it was just his penis. What about his penis? Like people were taken with his penis. Yeah. He also like drinks someone's bathwater. So I don't know. Oh yeah. Goes without saying. I didn't see that movie. Oh, I need to talk to you. Great. We've only been talking for an hour.

How many years have you been trying to get me to do Dazzle Dry?

I started Dazzle Dry during COVID when I was doing my own nails. So since 2020, four years. I am a gel nail girl through and through. I can't get regular manicures because like regular polish. Crapola. Like S-E-O-P-I. Like by the time I leave the salon, I have some sort of chip. Agreed. But Jackie, you know, you've been saying Dazzle Dry is different. Dazzle Dry is different. And I found myself at the nail salon a couple of, actually it was Tuesday. I know for a fact it was Tuesday because I was getting a manicure for the weekend ahead for this wedding. And I said, you know what? I have the time today.

to sit and dry, I actually had like an extra 20 minutes before Soto Method. I was like, you know what? If there ever was a time, I'll do it. And they had gorgeous colors. Like the color I was looking for, Big Apple Red, they literally had like a dupe. - Oh, that's so funny. That's my only issue with Dazzle Dry is like the colors aren't competitive enough. - Oh, I had like three colors that I couldn't choose between. There were so, too many options.

Let me tell you, I actually had to get a second manicure last. Oh, no, I even did my own nails yesterday before this wedding because I couldn't walk around with chipped red nails. Every single nail with chip red nails chipped red is bad chip by Friday. Almost every now had a chip by wet by the day after the manicure. I had I had a chip and I'm like, what the fuck?

I thought, oh, you know what? Maybe I just like did something bad to that finger. Yeah. No, by the next to every, it was deteriorating right in front of my eyes. Never again. So then I was left having to do my own nails yesterday. I'm so sorry. I'm going back to jail. Go back to jail. Go use your little UV light. Have fun. I will. Let me tell you, remember when we got pedicures for the beacon? That was what? August 1st. I got a dazzle dry pedicure. No chip. It's two months. Same, by the way.

I look like I have an inverted French tip because my nails have grown so much. I only get pedicures because my toes start to hurt. Like not because my nails chipped. No, 1000%. I still have the same pedicure as well. But yours is gel. I'm just saying mine's DD, double D.

Pedicures are different. Anyways, if dazzle dry is not for you, you definitely have to make concessions because there are so many great benefits to dazzle dry. It's better nail polish for you. It's like non-toxic. Whatever. It's not as great as, it's not nail glue like gel is. It's not. Some things, some things need to be toxic. Okay. I said it.

I personally disagree, but that's what I love about this space. Like we can agree to disagree and like, I'm not going to push. I'd recommend a dazzle dry if you are looking for like a non-toxic nail polish. And I do think it's better than like the crap regular nail polish in terms of chippage. Yes. That's been my personal experience. Everyone's nails are different. We're all different. I can only give you my thoughts. Take them or leave them. A penny for your thoughts, Turdy.

Thank you. That's what this show is. A penny for your thoughts. This show is just like a constant stream of consciousness of like seriously the most important topics on the planet. Like what is going on between Tia and Tamara? What is going on between Jax and Claude?

Dazzle drive might come between them. I heard there's like a fallout. Did you hear that? Is that what you just read on Reddit? Yeah, that's what the streets are saying. Imagine if we had a fallout. What do you think like if we ever, which we couldn't, like we're just incapable. But if you and I ever had like a relationship ending fight, what do you think it would be over? That's not what I thought you were going to say. But the thing is, I think when people's relationships end over a relationship ending fight, like there's nothing worth saving, right? Right. The bad outweighs the good.

I don't want to jinx ourselves, but like there is nothing that could happen that could outweigh the good that we do. What's this from? There's good stuff here. I don't know. Fleischman's in trouble. I don't know. Somebody help me. What is that from? And I was just like saying a nice thing and you had to come in with your. Oh, Steve Brady. Steve Brady when he's getting broken up with. There's good stuff here. Yeah. I don't think there's as much good as there was between Jackson Claw and.

It's so true. Anyway, so like that was my nice thought that you just like didn't even. That's beautiful. Nice thought of the day. Maybe that will come between us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. You like that? I like that. What? I like it. What you said. What did I say? That there's good stuff here. Like there's too much good. Okay. That's beautiful. I like that. Is that okay? Yeah. That I like what you said. I just wanted to make sure you were fucking paying attention when I was saying something nice.

What else did I be doing? I don't know. Thinking about what you were going to say. Thinking about where the quote was from. There's good stuff here. Well, that is our show. There was good stuff here. There was. All's to say there was good stuff here. Wishing Hayden, Tia, and Tamara the best. And Sabrina, of course. Always. What was the story? Oh, and Olivia Munn. Mazel Tov, by the way, Olivia. Totally. Totally.

And wishing every teller the best too. Holding space. Thank you so much for listening to the Joseph Mladen Morning Show. We do the best I've started. You need to know everybody that's watching us on YouTube. Please don't forget to subscribe to this video. Thumbs up. Just like laughing at funny things we said. Which is so funny. I understand. It's not about it. It's just your public video. I already can't talk to all the places. We have a podcast. It's a totally five star review about how beautiful, about how stunning, about how wickedly talented we are. Love ya. Bye.