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Debating the Patriarchy Live: Tuesday, August 6th, 2024

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Jackie and Claudia discuss the tradition of children taking their father's last name, questioning its logic and fairness in modern society. They explore alternatives like hyphenated names, joint last names, or children taking their mother's last name, considering the historical and societal implications of each option. Ben joins the conversation, offering a contrasting perspective rooted in tradition and family legacy.
  • It's becoming more common for women to keep their last names after marriage.
  • The Oshry sisters believe the tradition of taking the father's last name is disrespectful to mothers.
  • Ben is against children taking their mother's last name, emphasizing the importance of family legacy.

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Good morning, millennials. And welcome back to the toast. Happy Tuesday. Thank you for choosing to spend the day with us. Yesterday was a long one. Don't you feel? Yesterday was giving multi-day, multi-hyphenate. It was giving multi-day that turned out to be solo day and it's only the day of the choose after all. Speaking of hyphenate, like, okay, tangent almost immediately. Okay.

growing up there was like one kid in every class who had like a hyphenated last name it was like cohen schwartzberg and it was like kind of embarrassing like why do you have two last names it was like ew um never have i understood anything more now as an adult like yeah that was a mom who knew her worth her worth and she knew where she stood and she had power and honestly like

as much as we clown on that kid, we should have been respecting him because he was raised by a powerful woman. I do think we have had this conversation before or an iteration of it. And I have so many thoughts. Like one, I think nowadays there's a lot more kids in the class like that. Like a lot more women really sticking up for their last name. Two, I feel as though we don't need a hyphen. Like,

Why not just the two names? Why do we have to hyphenate it? Because if we're going to hyphenate it, let's make a joint last name. Yeah. It's time for the joint last name. You know, I actually had a teacher. I think you had her too, who had a hyphenated last name and she was much older. So the fact that she had a hyphenated last name at her age was like way beyond her time. Do you remember that Hebrew teacher? Yeah. She was a queen.

I think it's time for the fusion of last names. I've been on this team for a while now. However, then it just makes things muddy when you think about your ancestors. You don't have the same last name as them. I'm not on the team of...

Fusing. Of fusioning. Because like you said, you lose the history of a name and that's what's so great about a name is the history that lies within it. I think we're going with the better name. Phonetically, historically, whose family has a more impressive background? I also think that logistically, it would be easier for society if children took their mother's last names because like,

Birth certificate. Whether or not the father is in the picture, like you're going to be with the mother. And like sometimes people don't have a dad or don't claim their father and like they have his last name. Like that's weird to me. I completely agree. Like put some respect on the mother. And we can always confirm who the mother is. And I feel like throughout history, that's been much easier than it is now. But now we have paternity tests. So it's like a little crazy when someone's like running around with the last name. I know what you're going to say. Patriarchy. Oh, I thought you were going to say patriarchy.

Yes. Don't say it. But yes.

What? What? Prince Harry? Oh, oh, oh, no, that's not what I was going to say. Yeah, Prince Harry, like questionable paternity. What were you going to say? I'll tell you offline. Oh, okay. It's not an appropriate joke to make. Oh, okay. Wow, I'm so excited. So yeah, those are my thoughts. I have accepted like the societal framework that we live within and I don't push back against it, but you asked me my thoughts on the matter and those are my thoughts. Like it makes no sense. It makes no sense. It's downright disrespectful and it's,

You couldn't catch me like growing up as being one of those people who wasn't going to take her husband's last name. I was like very, like when people used to be like, Oh yeah, like my mom's made it. And I'm like, okay, why don't you gray your armpits out? Like, it's so like crazy radical to me now.

Yeah. It's going to be a problem. Like when the day comes. And imagine how you feel after you go through a pregnancy and give birth and you literally have just like tore yourself open giving birth and the baby has the dad's last name. Like make it make sense when, when you've watched your husband do nothing for 10 months. I don't foresee myself having that experience. Cause like that kid is going to be, like, it's just the more I live. Yeah.

The more far away I get from that thing. At first it was like, of course I'll take my husband's name. Then I got married. I'm like, okay, you know what? Like when I have kids, I'll take my husband's name so that we all have the same last name. Now I keep pushing back when I'm gonna have kids. And then the day finally comes and the kid pops out and I'm like, oh, you're Samuel Lash, right? Like. Right. But just think about Ben's experience.

Now the book shifts to Ben's narration. What is Ben's experience? Where he's been so excited his whole life to have like little... Who cares? BSC junior. Literally, who gives a fuck? It's not so simple, Turdy. You know, my mother-in-law actually... Not that I tried or even considered... My...

fight with Zach was like, he really wanted me to change my name by the time, like legally change it by the time I gave birth. And then like once he saw what pregnancy entailed, he kind of, and giving birth. Try telling a pregnant woman what to do. He kind of like backtracked on that. The good news is if you don't change your name by the time you give birth,

for the two days in the hospital, you will have baby boy, Asha, your baby girl, Asha, because it's, you're the patient. No, but my mother, now that I'm like, finally looking at it, I think my mother-in-law, she was always like, same last name, same, and then like her kids grew up. And I think she kind of went back. She was like, you know what? Like I am me. She kind of like controls eat it. And that's a good move too. She still goes by her married name, but like, she'll throw in that maiden name in there a lot. I'm like, you know what? Now I understand like her kids are grown. They can make their own choices. Like,

Let's go back to our roots. Yeah. It's not a perfect system. No. I don't envy the people who had to make these decisions, but I think they made the wrong one. I also think coming from a family of all women, we feel extra like icky about just like giving it up. Right. Because the name, you know, I mean, there are other out there in the world, not even a close, super close relation to us, but the name ends with us in this world.

And that makes me sick. So yeah, I don't know if I'm just going to be turning over and spreading my cheeks. I don't know. I look forward to seeing what, how you handle this and navigate these situations. These muddy waters. Yeah, I actually really do. Maybe you could set an example for women because some of us like didn't do it. Well, I know that you and Olivia thus far have taken your maiden names and made it the child's middle name, which I think is a great starting point. Starting point.

It might not be enough. It might not be enough. Like not me having all my kids named Asher. I actually think if I told Ben like how I felt, he would 1000% say, okay. Really? Yeah. Oh my, you have to do it for us, for the women's rights. But then does he become Ben Asher? Like I'm the type where I'm in the type of relationship where like when it comes to booking trips and stuff, like I'm the one making the plans. I'm booking the tickets. All of a sudden Mr. Asher. So when we get to hotels, they always call Ben Mr. Asher and I love

I love it. I'm like, it suits you. And there isn't a Mr. Oshry like in my life right now. So it's not like he's usurping someone. Yeah. It's kind of like this seat waiting to be taken. I absolutely need to know how he would feel about this. It would either be like a hard no. Should I just tell him if you're not busy coming to the podcast? Yeah. I think this is a really interesting dialogue. And as Claudia and I. If you aren't on a call, can you come into the studio? We need to have a conversation with you for the podcast period. You are not in trouble.

Oh my God. Caveat. You are not in trouble. I sounded like the way I was like a principal. Yeah. Yeah. Come to the studio. We need to have a conversation. Yeah. I do think he might be okay with it. Like for real.

I think, but also I don't know if I'm okay with it. Like, yes, I talk a big game. To be so modern. But I am very traditional. When it comes to like marriage and family, I'm very, very like modern. I mean, very like traditional and conservative. There are other parts of my life where I'm a little bit more modern. But when it comes to home and hearth, no, no.

No, I'm very traditional when it comes to gender roles and such. But my issue with this is that it doesn't make sense. Like I like traditional gender roles because they make sense. A lot of them like follow biological trends. Love that. Love. This dumb makes sense to me. It's true. It's...

anti-biology like i'm a i'm a rule follower but when the rules make sense i think i hear bad that's where my wires come come we're having a conversation we want your take on it we're okay we need five minutes we're having a very wait stop talking because you're not on the microphone so save all your commentary and don't bump into the lights please it's fine we don't have time for you to like dilly dally just sit right here we are having then you're walking in front of the camera it's okay it's okay

I've grown. It's okay. The stories aren't great. Yeah, it's true. We need this sort of shtick. Take your time. Okay. Come sit. We're having an important conversation and Claudia is speaking for the both of you and we wanted to get your opinion. Okay. Do you want me to explain? No, I'll do it. I'll do it. Just take your time. Just, yeah. Sit right here and you can share my microphone, okay? Hi, Romeo. Oh, and maybe turn your phone off. Yeah, like amateur hour. Okay. Okay.

Literally, I was unscheduled for this. I'm sorry. It's okay. So Jackie and I were talking about this thing when you get married, changing of last names, having kids. And Jackie and I were talking about how she really had the boys go by wine. That was hard for her. She was pregnant for all this time. One of the pregnancies was extremely traumatic. She went through the trauma of childbirth. And then it's like you just work over this kid to this other name. Which is something that I just accepted, never pushed back against. That's the norm. But I just think it doesn't make a ton of sense when the mother...

has the baby also proving paternity throughout history would have been easier if they carried the mother's last name, whatever. It's just like, it kind of makes more sense logistically for, but it doesn't, it's not. So then I was saying like when I was younger, like you can never catch me like not taking my husband's last name, not giving my kids my husband's last name. And the older I get and the closer to this event I eventually get, I'm like, I don't

How about that? Especially like being like a family of women, like not a lot of, you know, male ashrays to take on the name. And I, Jackie was like, what would Ben say if you were like, I want our kids to have last name ashray. And I said, I feel like you wouldn't like be totally against it. Now feel free to take my microphone and tell me your thoughts. And you can be totally unfiltered. I think she would be surprised by how against it you would be.

Incredibly against it. That said, just because we're not lesbians. That said, what we've always spoken about was, one, I love Asheray middle name. Well, that's what, yeah. Two, I...

love you keeping your maiden name for always, if that's what you want. Okay. What we had spoken about was the second that we have kids and the second that kids have school that then they would be like, well, you're, you're, you're, you're, okay. Well in this, in this scenario, just know you would also, um, be taking Asher. Yeah. So it's funny that we're like, you would never want this. Um, so,

so like you can talk about it. I'm torn. Yeah. Um, you would never want this. Uh, it's, you would never want, no, no, it's just, it's just weird. No, I am.

- I am with you. - So then scooch over. No, I can't do this. I'm gonna break my back. - You're okay, you're okay. - Jackie's microphone's almost easier. - I understand you and I figured that's what you would say. She seemed to think perhaps not. - No, it's not even true. She knows. Maybe she's doing this for-- - No, I wanna say if I sat Ben down, and let's say I'm one day, God willing, pregnant, and I sit Ben down, I'm like, "I've been thinking a lot." We have a really serious conversation about it and I tell you my feelings that I don't think this is what I want.

And if I had like really strong opinions on it and I convey them to you in like a nice communicative way. Not live on a podcast. Not an ambush. I do think you would. I wouldn't. Okay. I wouldn't. And that's not to say that you couldn't convince me to do anything because you could. But the same way that you feel...

Like a sense of family, a sense of pride. The reason your last name is Asherah is because your dad's name was Asherah. No, it's true. You wouldn't have that. Oh, yeah. That's like a thin argument, but okay. No, it's true. It's a family name. There are so many advantages of being a woman. One disadvantage. What are they? Everything. Convincing me to do anything that you want me to do. That's not me being a woman. That's just me being smarter than you. No, that's you being a woman. No, no.

It's a woman's world. It is. And you're lucky to be living in it. Yes, everything except for the last name of a family. I'm sorry. We're not Amish and strange. That's what we needed. We needed your take. I think Amish are actually very traditional and would never go for something like this.

but I'm glad to have your head. And I figured that would be such to think like for 32 years, your children will be your last name. And then in one day they might not. I don't think the, maybe this is us just planting the seed. No, by the way, it's just not happening. Or you could try and tell my dad, like it's, it's like, you can't do that to him.

To Bruce. You get to have the relationship with our children of having carried them. Of being the mother. And being the mom. Oh, I guess that's a good point. You get the privilege of being the mother. And like, what do you have? Nothing. Your name. Nothing. My name. No, that's true. And maybe I'll send this episode to Bruce and see what he thinks. Yes. Okay, thanks. He'll cry. I think this was a very good mock trial. I agree. And... I'm not going to comment on this, so... On your gooch? Get it while you can, ladies. Get it while you can.

If you're watching on YouTube, you might have seen one of Ben's testicles. I hope you enjoyed it. Yeah. Have you shown them Romeo's testicles? I have not shown them Romeo's testicles. You know, a fun fact about us extending swirly summer is that we've actually missed Romeo's appointment for neutering. So if you rub his belly, I mean, we never had this with Theo. His nuts never came in.

- Romeo has balls, like two big balls. - Keep Romeo out of the vet. - You think? - I am really like, big pet is real. I don't know why they wouldn't poison them so that they would have to be on medication and need to go back to the doctor forever. - No, it's true. And Romeo out here has missed all of his vet appointments. He's doing so great.

Okay. Just go. Okay. Now Ben wants to know if, if Romeo needs to get neutered. I think it would depend on the kind of lifestyle Romeo plans to leave. Like if he needs a very public lifestyle and a very social, a very, you know, with the women lifestyle. No, you can't have him like knocking up women. If he goes to dog parks, no, he has to be neutered. But like, if he lives like a kind of a life of solitude, the way he's living right now, if, if he lived the way he lives right now,

The only other dog he sees is Bruno, who's a man. And Magnolia, who's neutered. I would be okay with it. But no, when we get back in the city, he goes on his walks. He goes to the park. He's super social. He has to be neutered for that. But if he lived like the life that Bruno lives, where he's home and whenever he's out, he's on a leash and he really can't be getting people pregnant. I would say don't do it. Yeah. Also at this age, usually you get them neutered fast because like it's really affecting their behavior. Yeah.

Romeo is kind of my perfect king. So like thus far, I haven't seen a compelling argument as to why he needs to get neutered. But when we get back to the city, I will. Once he gets back on the scene, he, yes. Not me being like so granola, like I'm not going to neuter my dog. No, like Bruno didn't start getting sick until I took him to the vet in December. I just want to say like back to Ben. Yeah, now we need to talk about what he said. I feel like he like said that like, like,

you know, big dick on the podcast. Although like the thing about Bruce is so valid. And also like he made some good points, but I do think like, let's say, and I haven't even decided that this is what I want, but if it was, and I sat him down, like I could convince him for sure. But I think like what we just did here, like set your cause back because I don't think he liked being ambushed.

Like, and it didn't come out in earnest. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We have some work to do if that's the road we choose to take. Yeah. That's good. But some things you just gotta accept. I don't know why, but like you can't fight every societal thing. Of course. I think this is like a big one. You can't fight city hall. Literally. You do have to do it for the women. Like as a, a woman with a platform, an influential women. I think if I did it, you would inspire a lot of women.

You just did that thing you hate. I'm one of those people who doesn't know the difference between the word woman and women. Oh my God, that bothers me so much. So much. I did it because I stumble over my words as I do. But when people do it in writing, there's no excuse. You know who's always doing that? Lauren Elizabeth. Is she? Oh my God, now you're calling her out. I thought you... No, no, no. The Real Housewives. All of them. They all are always doing it. Like this group of women, I hate. Totally. Totally. Oh my God. Speaking of... Lauren Elizabeth, no shade. I love you so much.

I know you're not following. And I haven't seen you do it in a while. I know you're not following the Real Housewives of New Jersey. No, I'm trying not to because I'm doing the thing where I want to watch it and I don't want it to be spoiled. Jackie, I'll watch it with you by the way. But then I never watch it. Real Housewives of Utah. I still don't know what she said. Okay. And it's so crazy that there's all this rhetoric about like this season's a flop and they're going to reboot the craziest finale. Right.

feels so good to be me right now and you like we have we have been staunch in our march standard and that doesn't mean we can't acknowledge it like she's a shit starter for sure but like the the reputation she's gotten for being this sort of like bone carrier who goes out and you know reaches out to ex-girlfriends and and and collects this information is

The crazy, I won't spoil it for you, but I just want to say like, if you're watching Real Housewives of New Jersey, like I see you. If you have been like loyal to Marge this entire time, like what a great day to be us. And someone like me, I've always held out a lot of hope for Dolores. And she came through? No. Oh. She kind of let me down. I want to watch. Let's watch this week. A thousand percent. Okay, great. It's...

And I remember when I started this season and I like three episodes, three episodes of the toast in a row. I just like could not stop going off about Jackie Goldschneider. It's like I'm kind of a truth teller in the sense that everything I said was right. Like probably one of the biggest L's anybody's ever taken on the housewives ever. And you're not even a full time cast member and you're dying to be.

It feels so good to be me. Okay. I'm definitely going to watch. Let's add that to the content plate. Yeah. Because my content plate is about to get lighter. We did finally record yet redheads yesterday. Like couldn't get this episode off the ground, but we finally recorded. It was so fun. It was the perfect summer episode for our summer book and it should be up today. I'm going to just edit it. It doesn't require much. You know, the girls were kind of one take wonders, things of that nature. And,

And I'm really excited about that. It's been like a really long process. So my content and my plate should be lighter after that. And you filmed the redheads in this here studio. How was that experience? It was a positive experience. I feel like we railed so much on our old studio. Like we need to give just as many compliments to this studio. Cause yesterday I felt so good, like using my hands.

And then I watched her episode. It looked kind of gorgeous. Yeah. Even though this aesthetic is super masculine and me in this like bubble pink outfit today, could I look more out of place in the studio? But we're still being ourselves. Like we're always going to be true to us. I just feel, I feel like the studio has kind of,

Everything to us. I like it. I like the cozy thing. The only thing that really like bothers me is that picture behind you. Yeah. A lot of people have been remarking on the unique choice of artwork behind me. The picture behind me is gorgeous. And a part of me wants us to sit in front of this picture, but then we don't get a corner and we love a corner. No. And when you film like directly, not to bore people, like on a flat couch, how we did the last studio, it has no dimension, no depth. This is,

is better but yes no he's so happy the artwork behind me is extremely bizarre i did see a lot of comments of people thinking it was an intentional ode to turdy's biggest regret that time i didn't get in the cop car which i like adding a little bit of lore and jackie was like this house by the way whoever owns this house has amazing taste in art it's really like some of the sickest art jackie was like let's just go pick up and i want a piece i don't want to be moving this guy's stuff around like i already like brought in my lights like it's a lot yeah

Let's see how it's hung. Yeah. No, I like it. There's so many swirly pictures. There's Queen Elizabeth blowing a bubble. I know. But Jackie, like this, this turnt piece of artwork equals engagement. It's true. And now it's kind of a cornerstone of the toast brand, even though like, I guess it's the Mona Lisa riding in the backseat of a police car. That's also sort of fading away. I didn't see that the Mona Lisa was in the background. Yeah. It's an interesting piece of art. I think it's an homage to the Paris Olympics, like the Mona Lisa. I love that.

You know, take her away, boys. And then behind you, we have Brigitte Bardot on a sailboat smoking a cigarette, which is just kind of the essence of Swirly Summer. No, it really is. It's such a shame that you can't see the whole thing. It's really garrigy-pyrigy. Maybe we'll do a studio tour. Maybe we should. So I think without further ado, we've got some crap stories today, which kind of means nothing for the future of this show. No, it's not even, like, bad. It's just, like, there were so many, like, half stories out there, it...

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After all was said about Charlie XCX's birthday party, Glenn Powell is in final talks to...

Join J.J. Abrams new secret movie as is Jenna Ortega. So Jenna Ortega is in final talks. We here to join J.J. Abrams secret untitled movie at Warner Brothers. The star will star opposite Glenn Powell who is also finalizing his deal. Few details are known about the movie other than it's not a time travel movie. Abrams wrote the script and his bad robot is producing it. So like Jenna Ortega casting news is like could never be something I would give even a shred of a shit about.

The Glenn Powell addition to this story changes things. It also puts into perspective the conversation we had yesterday about him and Gracie Abrams quote unquote flirting. Maybe they just know each other. From JJ's movie. I feel like when you get cast in a JJ movie, it's like a kind of a process. You come to JJ's house. Yep. You meet JJ family. You meet JJ dog. You swim in JJ pool. Like you have to do all of these things. So I feel like it was kind of a reunion. And I just want to say,

I still ship. I don't think Glenn Powell is stupid. Like, I don't think he would start dating J.J. Abrams' daughter before. No. It's like, you can't, nobody just gets cast in a J.J. Abrams movie. It's like such an honor. You don't fuck it up. And even if he fell in love with her upon meeting her, I think he'll wait till the movie wraps. I completely, like maybe she will be his date on the premiere. Yeah. But no, I don't think that these two are, and that's sad because I had like been excited about this, but yeah.

no like glenn powell is a lot of things he's not stupid but he's also like a really hard worker i think he sees himself on some sort of track to being really a huge movie star yeah and he's not gonna fuck it up yeah i agree glad to have some answers about that conversation from yesterday before we all like took off with shipping glenn and gracie yeah even though it's a cute couple name yeah glacy or gren i like gren i like

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Another update from a mystery from yesterday. A mystery. Which is what happened to Zac Efron in the pool. Oh, yeah. I saw this explanation. It's years in a documentary before we finally know what happened. And I'm so happy to be able to tell you guys today was that he was hospitalized after hitting the bottom of the pool in a diving accident.

So the cause of Zac Efron's recent hospitalization following a swimming incident has been revealed. He was vacationing at a villa in Ibiza over the weekend when he went for a swim with friends at the property's pool. While he was there, he had a minor swimming incident. A source confirmed to People that he ingested water into his lungs when his chest hit the bottom of the pool after his dive. TMZ first reported the news. Villa security helped pull him out of the water after he showed signs of distress. The source adds that he was dazed momentarily and therefore taken to the hospital out of an abundance of cough.

caution. There he had x-rays done on his chest to ensure no water remained in his lungs. Though he was medically cleared within hours, he decided to wait at the hospital until paparazzi who had followed him to the hospital left. The source said he is fine. Um, okay. I can't

That could have been so bad. Okay. Like diving, like gives me the willies. Like I diving into a pool. That's too shallow. If his, if his chest hit the bottom, then it wasn't as deep as he thought it was, but deep enough that like, he didn't really get hurt. I think there are a lot of people out there who like aren't in wheelchairs or, or, or paralyzed in certain ways. And, and so it's very common that the, the incident that got them there is like pool diving, shallowness related. And when I think about it, like it gives me like a chill down my spine. Like the willies, this could have been so bad. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank God. Like seriously. Yeah. And I do think it's speaks to what we said about Zach yesterday, which is like, he likes to have fun and he likes to have adventure. And sometimes the two don't mix. And I think that's exactly what this was. Like maybe if he, I don't know what his state of mind was, but diving is a fun thing and swimming is fun. But if you're a little impaired, it can get a little dicey. It can get a little dicey. So practice safe swim. No. And also like, let's just take a moment and thank God. Like Zach Efron's okay. It could have been really bad. Yeah. Yeah.

But I don't know if like, like, I didn't know he showed off a picture yesterday of him in the gym. Yeah. Maybe like just take a beat, you know, like it's okay not to work out. No, totally. And like your lungs, it's like you're breathing heavy when you work out, like just chill. Yeah. It's like everyone like seriously needs a nap. Yeah. However, like this story doesn't like point to something potentially like worse for me. Like I actually feel like it's congruous, like with what we think about him. You know what I'm just thinking about? Hmm.

I can't really recall a long-term relationship that Zac Efron was in after Vanessa Ann Hudgens. Because I was going to say, you live recklessly like this when you're single. It's like, okay, maybe he'll settle down. But it's like he's low-key like 40. I feel like he dated that girl who's a designer for a long time. Who? Let me just make sure. I feel like he dated that blonde girl. Hold on. Whose name? I don't know. Sammy Miro. Who's that? She's a fashion designer. Okay, cute. Okay, timeline. Thank you, Us Weekly. His famous exes.

Oh my God. They were together for two years. He dated Alexandra Daddario. Okay. Well, he always is rumored to be dating his co-stars, even like he had a crush on Zendaya. That's kind of his thing when he promotes movies. So Vanessa and Lily Collins, he dated Collins in 2012, long before the two made their, long before the two made their Netflix flick. Oh, they had a movie. Oh, you're right. Co-star. Oh yes. Michelle Rodriguez. But I feel like all of these are flings. Also Kelly. Sammy Miro. Yeah. He settled down once more in 2014 with businesswoman Miro. Oh,

And then Alexandra Daddario rumors began swirling about the pair after they co-starred in 2017's Baywatch. Daddario shot them down that May. We worked together closely. He's my love interest in the film. I understand why people would go crazy over something like that. But Zach and I are very good friends. Yeah. There's a lot of that with him. And I think he fell in love with. Oh, my God. Wait, you know that there were rumors that he dated Rebecca Ferguson from The Greatest Showman.

No, I didn't know that. What's her name? Jenny in the movie. Jenny Lind. So the greatest showman stars now that confirmed or denied dating speculation after Efron shared a shot of her looking at him lovingly with his arm wrapped around her in December 2017. A picture's worth a thousand words. He wrote at the time. Only word I can think of now are what the fuck are you thinking, dude? Look at her. Hashtag greatest showman. Hashtag Rebecca Ferguson. Oh, those are comments like, okay, thanks.

And then Sarah Bro, the couple first sparked dating rumors in 2019. They were spotted attending a fitness class together. This, I remember Halston Sage when they went to, I just remember them seated. I remember this photo of them seated at courtside at a game together. Neighbors cast me. He like, you're right. He always falls in love with his. Not even. I think he like really plays into it for like movie PR. And I think he knows that's like a great way to get people interested. Like who's Zac Efron dating. So might as well make it a promo for his movie. But we're on to you.

Okay, like none of these are confirmed. That's the thing. Not at all. Except I think Halston Sage. Because there was like that picture of them. They don't look like a couple in that picture. So funny. Like Zac Efron has really went through so many different like eras in terms of his physical appearance. Like who remembers Bleach Efron? Yeah. Blefron. That was not my favorite. That was a dark time. No. It was a long period of that too. And then he went through like very...

well quaffed, like suave, clean shaven. And then he had like a sort of like rugged boy era. He's kind of crazy. They could never make me hate him. No, I know that other people, no, I feel like they are. And they're like, what's with his face? I don't care. Oh, the face. About his face. Yeah. I don't care. What I, I know what's in his heart. My thoughts on his face are not like socially acceptable to say. You say them all the time.

all the time. Do I? I know I said it at Gizno. I know I said it at Gizno. Okay, well Gizno's different. Which is like a safe space and I told everybody to put their phones down so I could say what I really thought and what's going on. But I would never say that on this here show because, you know, this is a business.

Yeah. And I don't care. No, me neither. I don't care. Like not at all. I have love in my heart. For the Zac Efron. For Zac Efron. Are you ready for our next story? What are the Zac Efron fans you would know as like the leader of them? What do they call themselves? Like what's the Swifty equivalent? I actually don't know. I'm so curious. Like what his fan page is. We could look it up. Because you know he has that core Disney following. They love to name themselves. Fan...

What are the Miley fans call themselves? Smilers. Smilers. Smilers. The Selenators, the Swifties. I'm really not part of any like fandom communities. I kind of do my own thing. You're a toaster. I am a toaster. But like even, you know, the Sabriners, I don't know what they're called. The Carpenter. I guess I'm a bootlegger. You are a bootlegger. That's Luke Holmes. Yeah. And. You're not a Swifty. No, I'm not. I'm a Taylor Swift fan. I'm a Taylor Swift fan, but I'm not a Swifty. And I think that's an important distinction. I agree. I agree.

I don't know where his fan name is. Maybe he doesn't have one. Not everyone does. Damn. Like, I don't think Brad Pitt's fans have like a community. Does Zac Efron have a fan club? The Zac Efron fan club. Okay. I'm in a place. I'm in a place I don't want to be. Z-E-F-C. I don't want to be here. Yeah, no, that's a dark corner of the internet. Are you ready for? And by the way, if you don't know the name, if you don't know the name of a community, it's not popular. It's not popular and you're certainly not a part of it. Oh, for sure. Because I think other people have communities. I don't know them. Yeah.

Now are you ready for our next story? One number. Three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blake Lively is on her press tour for It Ends With Us wearing more flower outfits than we can count and probably one million flowers in total in every single look that she's worn to promote her movie so far. She's been making a lot of

news, which I love the most recently is like, yes, this flower outfit, but she also... No, every outfit is a flower outfit. Flower power because... Sorry, she posted one of these flower outfits like in her New York City apartment. And for some reason, whenever she takes a picture inside her New York City apartment and we see like, you know, a little bit of the decor, the internet goes berserk. I think there's like this...

huge mystery around, I think her and Ryan Reynolds have this insane apartment that nobody's ever seen the inside of. And every now and then she'll take a picture. I saw the headline where it's like Blake Lively shows bit of, of, you know, private apartment. And I was like, Oh sweet. I want to see your apartment. It was just her in the foyer. Yeah. Taking like going out pictures. And it looked like a little nutty, the decor, but,

Like a couple of I think maybe like a year ago now she took a picture in this like sick jumpsuit in her bedroom and you saw like her clearly like her master bathroom and like how it connects to and it's like this old wooden barn door. I think it's probably like this insane apartment and we get like very little pieces of it and everybody like creams their pants over it.

But something I want to talk about and why I asked you to just choose a random Blake Lively story. Even though I do want to talk about her press tour and her looks. Same. But I want to talk about the press tour because somebody posted it in our Facebook group. Something that really shook the foundation in which I walk. And I hadn't noticed it at the time. But somebody was like,

Has anybody else noticed one that like Justin Baldoni has been like kind of MIA from the, it ends with us press tour thus far. And Colleen and Blake Lively no longer follow Justin Baldoni on Instagram, but Justin Baldoni follows them. Now I went to Instagram because people love to say like, it's, it's real.

And he is now posting like as of yesterday, like headed to New York. So excited to start. It ends with us press tour, like letting everyone know his press is coming. But like up until this point, there has been so much. And he plays which one? He plays Ryle and he's the director. Oh. He was the one who like found the script with Colleen. It was like him and Colleen taking pictures before anyone got cast. It was the Justin and Colleen show. And now it's the Blake and Colleen show. I mean, that doesn't surprise me. I think that I, the...

idea of getting a book turned into a movie and no one's feelings getting hurt along the way. Like there's going to be artistic division and for it to be the author and the lead actor. But Blake too. Yeah.

Blake, well, I think because Blake is a swirly and she's team Colleen and she recognizes Colleen's work. And I didn't even realize it until this person pointed out, but there has been so much press like, and it's been Colleen and Blake. They went to like Booktopia. They did a screening for the special screening for fans. They, and it's every time Blake has been like with the co-stars, it's with the two young, the young Ryle and the young Lily. And they're all really, really close. And it's like,

And it's like, I didn't even realize until this person pointed out where in the world is Justin Baldoni? That's so interesting. I didn't notice for one second. Cause like, I don't really care what the men are doing when it comes to things like this, when it comes to press too. I think like this perceived drama is good for the movie.

Okay, for sure. But can we... And also because like one, another frustrating part about Blake's casting, even though I'm mostly over it, especially because Margot said the movie's amazing. She said the movie is perfection. It's amazing. Or Sister Margot, like Loki got to see the movie. She saw a screening of it. And she's the biggest fan of the book. She made all of us read it. She said the movie is incredible. She was in... At least she talks about it on the Redhead. She gave a little bit of a recap. Oh, good. So...

So I think what the movie, though, doesn't have because Blake was cast is like she's a married woman with four children. There's no of this Zac Efron. Will they? Won't they? You know, romantic lead drama. And I think that's what the press of this movie would need. We see how it benefits all those other movies. And so maybe not that I'm so jaded, but like maybe a little bit of this is like drumming up some interest in drama in the movie because they don't have that.

Well, a lot of people had thought, because I saw the toasters were freaking out, like everybody was leaving comments and someone was like, well, you know, Ryle is very much the villain of this movie, so it could be intentional that they don't want...

him to be like at the center of the press that makes no sense one he's the director and two they're villains in every movie like they still have to do press right and also margo was saying in her recap like you forget how in the book you're kind of rooting for ryle like you want him to be changed to be the one for her and like get his shit together and like she said like you really feel that in the movie so i don't even think he's like the outright villain right so i

I feel like there's drama. Like I actually do. I don't think we'll ever get down to the bottom of it. Blake Lively is like not like that at all. But you don't go from being the person who discovered the script and like really made Colleen Hoover as a person. Obviously she's always been a famous writer, but like her face made her like this star. I think there's something totally going on. And I just want to say, I feel like Justin Baldoni like is a, like a nightmare. And there were like rumors that he's like a tough director or whatever. Who is this person? I think it's more than creative differences. And I think when it,

was announced that it ends with us as being made into a movie. And the first piece of news we got was like, Justin Baldoni is at the helm of it. I want to go find that episode. I said, I don't like this. I'm not a Justin Baldoni fan. There's something, you know, abyssal, not right. Who is this person? Why does everyone like have an opinion on him? That's what I said too. And we, we never watched the Jane, the Virgin. And that's where he got his start and like why people are obsessed with him. Cause he was like the heartthrob in that. So we missed that, the, his rise, you know, he just sort of arrived to us one day. Yeah.

Got it. Okay. Yeah. I'm not a part of this. I don't have an opinion on this man and I'll wait to see the movie. Yeah, me too. But I do think there's something going on. Like when, why would he follow them and that they not follow him? And it's not like, like he follows like three people. Actually, let me go see.

go see uh colleen hoover follows me okay well you're a influencer in the literary space she follows 500 people so it's not like an absurd amount is he like a does he run his own instagram you know why does she need to follow the justin oh 3.2 million followers i just want to say there was a time where colleen hoover followed him colleen hoover follows 3 000 people he has so many followers from jane the virgin yeah

Now people are saying, you know, oh, he had surgery. Maybe that's why. Sure. You could come up with a reason why he hasn't been in the press tour up until this point. Them not following him, something's up. Something's up, especially Colleen. How many people does Colleen follow? 3,000. And he follows them.

Yeah, I feel like maybe Blake never followed him to begin with. Maybe, but I don't know. They were like all in this together. It was like this big thing for everyone. I don't know. Well, I just want to say as far as the looks, everyone is different and there's some really high highs like in the floral motif. Yeah. And she looks beautiful. And then there's some that are like my...

less of my favorites but overall I like what she's doing because it's so congruous with the character Lily Bloom who works at a flower shop and her name is Lily Bloom agreed and it's very much like yeah we can't do like a method romance yep but we have to get creative dressing yeah yeah no there are ways to like promote a movie without the two main characters being and I think that it ends with us is not having an issue and when it comes to like a shortage of press

Yeah, but it would have been cool if it was like two single or not even married, like even, you know, people without children. Like you could just pretend for one second, like maybe the chemistry on screen translated off screen because that's how you make a successful romance movie. Yeah. Romance. Romance. I like when you put the emphasis on the wrong syllable. Me too. Whoever came up with that little jingle about the wrong emphasis on

No, the emphasis on the wrong syllable. Like they fucking ate with that shit. They did. Like you're teaching me a lesson with your limerick. Like I loved it. Yeah. Yeah. More of that. That's more of that energy in 2024. Like nothing here literally being over. I was thinking that the other day because I,

majorly halfway over. I know. I was thinking that, Oh, because, um, we posted that clip. I posted that clip on my Tik TOK about somebody vaping at one of our Gizmo shows. Speaking of Gizmo, we're headed to Atlantic city, August 17th. Can't wait to see you guys there. Tickets available at the trust podcast.com slash tour. The Borgata make it a weekend. Great hotel, great spa, great casino, great restaurant. So somebody reminded me, um, that it's been now like eight months since I stopped vaping because it was my new year's resolution. Like January one was the last time.

And I was like, damn, the year's literally over. I just stopped vaping. Yeah. But not really. I'm eight months clean. That's so great. 10 months. So like when it's October. No, wait, what's the 10 month? October. October 1st, 2024. I will be on Instagram. Except we all saw you vape on stage at Jitsnow, but that doesn't count. I did not vape on stage. Oh, you didn't? I didn't take a pump of that man's vape. What do you think? I'm disgusting like that? I'm sure he was clean, but who's a strange man? If it had been

a girly, like I probably would have done it. Okay. But no. Oh my God, I totally thought you did. Ew, no. Oh my God. No, I would never. But, and by the way, that's not to say that I have not taken a puff of a vape. Yeah. I've probably taken six puffs in the last eight months when I'm drunk one at a time and I'm able to

Yeah. Leave it at that. Yeah. But yes, on October 1st, 2024, I will be taking a picture with a vape and posting it on my Instagram with a caption. 10 months sober, I must admit, just because you're clean don't mean you don't miss it. Beautiful. I need to actually set an alarm. Oh, that's a good idea. Hey, Siri.

Remind me on October 1st, 2024 at 10 a.m. to post an Instagram. Do you think she can handle that sort of thing? I don't use Siri for that. Like, that's a lot. Okay, I added it. Sure you did. I don't use the reminders app. It's becaught. The thing is, the toasters will remind you. Please, thank you. I need to find like a cool photo of me like back in the day when I used to be. Like I used to take a million pictures for my close friend's story. Like, you know. Yeah, I gotta find one of those. Are you ready for our fourth story? No. Okay, let's get ready to rumble.

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took the temperature of the culture because she was like trying to make fetch happen it wasn't happening and i think it was actually having like a negative effect on her like fandom i think they've all like kind of taken a step back especially summer celebrities just like live yeah i think they're just like enjoying their lives enjoying the fruits of their labor she works so hard like we see on the show we see through all of her businesses and like what's all that for if you can't enjoy it and i feel like right now she's enjoying it i didn't even realize because i hadn't heard from her but she's clearly enjoying life right now because she is in greece with lauren sanchez and jeff bezos oh my god i'm

You know that they have like that famous yacht. Yeah. And they also have a second boat that it's like the service boat to the big boat where like the helicopter lands and they keep all like the pool floats and the life boats.

That's crazy. Boats and everything. They have a second yacht for storage. Yeah, but they can fly people in and out of their boats. So I think they just like post up all summer. That's sick. And it's like a revolving door. Of cool people. Of cool people. And right now Kim is in Greece. She posted a series of photos from her June vacation. This was from June? Yeah.

Oh, but she just now letting us know. She just posted these photos with Lauren Sanchez and also, um, that's so unlike her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm cracking up. Jeff Bezos is with a wag. Like I can't. So unlike Kim, like Kim has always been steadfast in her like living life authentically, like no, and she'll posting in real time or like that night. Yeah. Once the pictures come back and she can edit them. But yeah,

Okay, so anyways, in June, she was with Lauren Sanchez and Jeff Bezos, which I'm still stuck on. No, me too. But also, I'm stuck on the fact that she's latergramming. I feel like this is a huge shift. She's the Instagram girl. She makes the rules. She sets the tone. She creates the trends on social media. And she's always been authentic in her timing. Yeah. And I think the fact that she went on a vacation and two months later posted about it is actually extremely telling of how much things have changed for the Kardashians. And...

what we just said. Like she's just been enjoying her life. Which is good. Yeah, which is good. And she's also been on vacation recently with all four kids. They look like they're on some, I think they're in Idaho, like some sort of. Oh, they do like to go to the lake. Yeah. Lake trip. Exactly. Love that. So.

But I just like it's so funny that she's so close with Lauren Sanchez. No. And that's like been a huge, I think, help in Jeff Bezos's image. And Lauren Sanchez does not get enough credit for that. And Justin Sylvester said this on the podcast and was so true. Like being the partner of an extremely wealthy man is a full time job. And when he said it, I thought he was kidding. But he's not. And, you know, Justin, like he's a lady sitter. He hangs out with these women all the time.

being Lauren Sanchez is a full-time job and getting Jeff Bezos, like on the right side of pop culture, having, you know, Chris and Kim and having them all float in, like traveling, coordinating that travel. Like that's a huge job. And I think about a lot when Justin Sylvester said that on the podcast, cause I really thought it was a joke, but he's so right. Like,

Look what she's done for him. And not only in a physical sense, he looked so different. No. And also like he has cool friends, but I feel like even the way we perceive him now is better and more positive than it used to be when, before they started dating. She's his travel agent. She's his publicist. She's his hair and makeup artist. She's his partner. Social events coordinator. She has done more for Jeff Bezos than Amazon ever could. Mm-hmm.

And it's really been incredible to watch. Yeah. And I think like as a person, she's fun. Like I don't think Kim, Kim really can't be bought. Like Kim like, yes, loves to rub elbows with the rich and the famous. But at the end of the day, like Kim keeps people around her. Yeah, she has a very close circle. And she's had the same people around her for years and years. And I think it speaks to, you know, Lauren say, I almost always call her Nicole. Can you help me? Does she look like Nicole Scherzinger? Is that like, why do I almost always, my inclination is to say her name is Nicole Sanchez.

I don't know. But she does look like a Nicole. And Lauren and Nicole are similar names. Yes, thank you. But also to say, I think it speaks to the type of girly, swirly energy that Lauren possesses. Yes, but also the fact that like Jeff Bezos could have anyone's heart desires. She must be just a fabulous swirly. No, and the fact that she's age appropriate, like I'm obsessed. Yeah, I'm looking forward to their wedding.

Same. They've been engaged for a while. They have been. I think they got engaged last summer. It must be up like imminent. Coming up in a year.

They love that boat too. They'll take that boat where like, no, but if you're going to have that much money, like I'm like literally off screen. Oh my God. You're also having a hard time today. Like adjusting. My butt is hurting more than ever. So funny. Cause what I was going to say about this studio, I haven't, I don't want to jinx it. I haven't had any butt issues. Today is just like on another level and I'm literally falling off the camera. This job is hard. Like people think like it's so easy. I could do that. No, you can't like your butt hurts. Yeah. Anyways.

I feel like they are really enjoying his money. Yeah. It's so nice to see. They're meeting like happy lives. Whereas we just read this book for redheads. We were talking about like, you know, the toxic side of wealth. And I feel like for them, like they really enjoy their wealth. No, and it's like Elon. I know we love him, but like he's seriously. He does not enjoy his wealth for one second. He's in a house. Like he sleeps on people's couches. It's so unrelatable. Could never be me. It's, but at least like his money doesn't make him like, you know, sad.

He's not sick about it. Like he doesn't worry about his money when he makes money, he invested in the next company. It's just like a means to an end for him. It's not like something he wields over other people like in this book that we read, but also he's not enjoying life like Joe Bezos. And they take that. I feel like we're always hearing about like them on this boat. I think that boat goes from like St. Barts. How do boats get around? Is that a dumb question? Do they just boat to the next? Yeah, they cruise there. But like, how do you get from Greece to St. Barts? You take the boat. What are you going to put the boat on a boat? No, but like, aren't those like,

I guess, yeah, you have to boat it. It's a long trip. I think you would stop over and get gas on the way. Well, of course, we need to refuel. But aren't there parts of the ocean? But I don't think they on the boat. No, no, no, no. Someone is. Yeah, the crew. And aren't there parts of the ocean that are like... Not...

safe like is that like piracy or no like the ocean in terms of the ocean like there are parts of the ocean that are largely untouched right yeah but not not in europe and america and not part that would connect like that oh okay like what parts like russia like what words antarctica oh okay okay okay but they're touched by you know the scientists and researchers down there but no i don't think he could take his boat to antarctica yet

Got it. If anyone could do it, it's him. It will be him one day. But I also feel like being in this like loving relationship is really making him take his foot off the gas a little bit in terms of like the space race. Like he's always competing with Elon. I feel like he's realizing now like there's space for both of us. Not only that, you can't dance at home.

every wedding. You can't be the best at space. What Amazon has done, he has a lot to be proud of. They have destroyed millions of mom and pop shops. Things they did that they've destroyed brick and mortar. They've shifted the culture. That's huge. That's his thing. Elon is the space guy. Why do you have to

How do you have to be? And he's also the space guy. I think like you forget he's a nerd too. Yeah. And like he is successful and did Amazon and business because like he's a nerd and he had a love of space too. Yeah. It's not just to like mess with Elon. That's what I got from reading Elon's book. Like Jeff likes it too.

Right, there's space, for lack of a better word, for all of them. Yeah. I like that. Women supporting women energy. Women supporting women. Yeah, women supporting women. And our fifth and final story is Olympics recap. Once again, a few things happened when we watched women's gymnastics last night and it was a wild ride. Devastating for that girl. Of course, Peacock milked

Every last second of us put every sport in between. So we like, we ended up watching so much volleyball track and field 11 PM to see Simone's floor routine, Jordan's Rebecca's. And it was kind of a crazy night in the individuals. Like everyone was on edge. Yeah. The balance beam was slippery. Clearly. I, I,

I hate the balance beam. Like, and I know I actually, we, fun fact, we did gymnastics growing up, not of any sort of level, but I have my experience with the balance beam, you know? Yeah. And let me tell you,

It doesn't go away, that feeling. Yeah, so that was nerve wracking. But I'm glad that so many of the competitors got to medal. Usually I'm not like a participation trophy medal for all, but like these girls have worked so hard. It means so much for everyone to win for their country, to hear their anthem played, to like bring home a medal. In every country that you get paid,

when you medal rewards different amounts for different countries but like they're going home to be the pride of their country and simone and the girls they're the pride of america already like there's nothing more that they could do that we're not going to love them anymore we couldn't possibly we love them so much and we're so proud of them and no matter what happened like we're always going to feel that way so i'm glad that other people got to experience that even though that's typically like not my i agree but seeing those italian gymnasts who worked so hard and like literally could not meddle for the life of them both both

in beam. And then of course, Rebecca, who was so deserving of a gold medal. I agreed. Like they're, they're all really of the same caliber besides Simone, like who's on her own level. They're all really the best at what they do and they all deserve gold medals. So they've devoted their lives to this and it's, we'll make like a huge difference in their life, whether they meddle

or not. Like, you know, when Italy hosts the Olympics, like now they'll be in the possession holding the torch versus if they didn't medal, like maybe not. So I think it was so awesome. It all kind of worked out because the USA gymnast really had their moment. And I want to say something about the USA gymnast now that like they're done. Okay. And Sunni Jordan, I was just watching them and you feel such pride for these young girls. And I think that we, um,

Everyone has had such a good time watching them. And I saw this video of Sunni and Jordan Childs like freaking out because they met Mariska Hargitay. And it was like so relatable. They were literally crying. And it was like, these are just, you know, all the girls, Jade Wood is five of them. Such good role models for the country, but specifically for young women. I think they've held themselves back.

this has been like an eight year process. For Simone, she's three, 12 years. She's been in the spotlight and she's never been anything other than a fabulous role model for young girls, all of them, Sunni. And you see them making their TikToks and they're just so relatable and they're so well behaved and they're so beautiful. And they're really just the best of us when it comes to like, you know, women in America. And I'm,

gonna miss them being you know the name on everybody's lips and I think you know we we give them so much credit for being like amazing gymnasts but I don't think they get enough credit for being just amazing role models for young women we don't have that you know no we don't and I just love them and I think they're so sweet and they just share every part of this journey with us on social media and like them meeting Mariska like it had it started this it was the catalyst for this this process and I'm like you know what they are just fabulous young women and they are they're the

you know, embodiment of hard work. And like they, they are, are teaching not even just young women, but specifically young women, but everyone, the value of hard work, the value of commitment, the value of being, of being a good teammate, the value of sportsmanship. It's just been amazing to have them,

They'll always be famous, but they're never going to be as famous as they are right now. And to have them be the thing everybody's talking about, I think benefits our nation greatly. I think that's a fabulous point. And I completely agree. I think a lot of the role models for young women, you know, are it's a little dicey out there. Yeah. Oh, and you know what else started this thought process? I saw this commercial for Sunni. She had the face of some eczema cream. But then it reminded me she's.

struggled with like two major kidney issues, like things that would put any athlete out, any human being out. And she came back and won the medals in the Olympics dealing with this. And it's like, she is just, all of them, like I feel this way about Jordan, about all of them, like they're just...

fabulous girls. Yeah. And I love them. Yeah. And I'm proud of them and I am grateful for them. Yeah. And it makes me sad that like, they'll never be as, you know, in the culture as they are in this moment, which makes sense. And it happens every four years, but even after this, they'll like have the commercials and all of that. And I just hope that that moment lasts as long as it possibly can, because I think it's, it's so great for them, but it's also really good for us. And yeah,

the country. Agreed. Because they really are positive, deserving, you know, people like they,

not like I have no issue with this girl but like Hawk Tua gets more yeah for saying I have no issue with her either actually and I've seen a lot of clips of her and she seems like she has such a good head on her shoulders like such a nice girl and she's handing all of this like so well and and I have no issue with her it's more so like with you know spitting on a cock like with the culture that like that's what we prop up no I agree and I I've seen videos of her too I think she's giving so much back to her community like no she's not at all what I thought she would be based on what we coincidentally

She happens to be like so deserving of all of this and is doing so much good with it. And I'm so glad because she could have just been like a moron and she's so not. She's very humble. She loves her community. She keeps giving back. She's very charitable. I completely agree. But like, that's not why they plucked her out. No, they plucked her out because she was like this hot girl talking about like cock sucking. Right. Right. But she showed them. Yeah. Yeah.

Agreed. Which I actually love. So we're not down, like we're not putting her down. Not at all. I think she's fabulous. I hope she gets every opportunity and I love that like... And I hope she's famous for a long time. I think she will because it seems like she's playing it really well and people aren't over it and it's not like a five minute thing. Yep. She's doing like so much. Yep. So...

Rest of the Olympics recap, a little cute Olympics news, Olympic Village news. The Olympic rower in America just proposed to his girlfriend after winning the gold medal. So after becoming part of the first U.S. men's rowing team to win a gold medal since 1960, the men's four rower appeared on the Today Show alongside his girlfriend where he surprised her by getting down on one knee and asking the easiest question of his life. He said, this is what Cody Simpson should do.

Like on the good day Australia. No, but he can't because like he's not the Olympian. So then he's taking away from her moment. Oh, so true. Like if the girl... She could propose. Yeah, if...

Say Simone and Jonathan were just like dating and then he proposed at the Olympics. I think everyone would hate it. Yeah. Icky, sticky, sticky. Icky, sticky. That would be Cody. No, that's a good point. That's a good point. This is so cute. Like people... I'm going to make my big moment about you. Not I'm going to make your big moment about me. I think the reason I love the Olympics so much is because I think it's this really big deal. And the people who are there also like understand how big of a deal it is. Like nobody's too...

Like I was even watching Peacock. They had this like Team USA party and all the basketball players were there and they were interviewing Kevin Durant. And I guess like he loves the Olympics. This is his fourth one. He's obsessed. It's like his favorite thing about being an NBA player.

And the interviewer was like, you're like the Olympics guy. Like, why? And it was just so cool to see someone get excited about something. It's hard to make Kevin Durant excited. Yeah, you could go to the Oscars. You could go to the White House. Like, he goes everywhere. And this excites him. And it's because, like... And it's so pure. It's not like it's so glitzy and glammy. It's like just different people from different countries, you know, different life experiences. All...

bonding over like it's just so sweet I love it like and everybody who's there loves it like even when you're saying Coco Gauff and LeBron James two people who even yesterday we were talking about Novak Djokovic like people who have accomplished everything like it's hard to impress but even those people love the Olympics like I just love it yeah I love it bringing people together I think we've got one I know it's not a lot of time left a couple days I know

And gymnastics is done now. But I think there's a lot of still really big things happening, especially in track and field and basketball, which like the USA is like kind of everything. Track and field has been fun to watch. Agreed. Oh, and also some more little Olympics news. That Italian pole vault jumper who's knocked down the pole. And he went viral because he, and I just want to say like, and he finally gave a statement being like, it's really unfortunate. Like my penis is the thing that,

It's not like you have like this huge penis. I just want to say like, it's funny, but at the end of the day, like you didn't do the vault because you're not good enough. Like, sorry, not to be so mean. And you should be happy actually that the thing you weren't going to get the pole vault anyway, because you're clearly not skilled. It's not like this new penis. You've had the penis the whole time. So you weren't going to win, but you had a viral moment. He's getting offers from like all these adult. Like, yeah, that he got a $250,000 offer from an adult website to show his junk. And he just like, he's being like, woe is me in his statements. And I just like, I don't agree because like,

If it wasn't your penis, it was going to be something else. You're obviously not skilled enough to have won. Yeah. You haven't, you trained with this penis. His penis didn't just grow overnight. I just want to say the penis didn't even look that big. Like he wasn't, he was very close to the bar. If it wasn't his penis, it would have been his knee. Like, please. Yeah. Please. And was he even close to meddling? I don't know, but like he didn't meddle. So yeah.

So at least he's like, it's all funny. But when you boil it down, like you didn't meddle, not because of your penis, but because you say in that one moment, like it was the penis that took down. But if it wasn't the penis, it would have been something else. It would have been the tip of your nose. But he might have not cleared the next one anyway, because he barely cleared this one. Correct. Understood. So that's your Olympics recap. That's your show. I feel like from where we started, like I don't even know what we were talking about.

To where we ended. Like we covered so much in today's episode. And I peed right before the podcast. And I was like, honestly, I don't even know what the hell I'm going to talk about today. Like I didn't have any like hot takes on any subjects I wanted to talk about. But let me tell you, we covered a wide range of topics. That's classic toast. Are you okay? No, I'm in so much pain. I can't even sit here. I don't know why. I don't know why. Tomorrow I will...

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