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But we no longer focus on the large and menacing figure of Richard Kuklinski, the Iceman. No, this time I thought it prudent to give time to the fairer sex. It's time for another episode featuring a female serial killer. Her name was Anna Maria Hahn, and she murdered at least five fellow human beings. This is her saga.

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The 1st of August, 1937. The place is Colorado Springs, in the great state of Colorado. Today, Colorado Springs is a bustling and thriving city of more than 475,000 inhabitants. But 83 years ago, it was a far less populated area of less than 34,000 people.

The town was perhaps most famous for establishing Pike's Peak or Bust Rodeo that same year, as well as establishing the museum, simply named the Colorado Springs Museum. Around 35 years prior, the town had been most famous for hosting the Tesla Experimental Station at Knob Hill. Tesla was almost a superstar in the United States at the time,

But by 1937, he had for some reason become an obscure historical figure few people remembered. But our tale does not take place in the dusty ground surrounding Knob Hill, nor the granite halls of a museum. We are following close behind a doctor at Memorial Hospital. He has a concerned face, and he's calling the local police.

A patient has died in agony under very mysterious circumstances. The victim, 67-year-old George Obendorfer, had fallen unexplainably ill just days earlier. Doctors were unable to determine what made him sick, and their best efforts had not been enough to save him.

After interviewing staff members at the hospital, investigators discovered Obendorfer had been visiting the area, and his primary residence was in Cincinnati, Ohio. Apparently, the elderly man, along with two unknown companions, checked into the Park Hotel on the 30th of July, 1937.

Colorado authorities found the circumstances intriguing because the owner of the hotel had just filed a report regarding $300 worth of stolen diamonds. Investigators understandably wanted to determine whether the two incidents were related.

Shortly after arriving at the Park Hotel, investigators learned that Obendorfer had registered there with a woman named Anna Maria Hahn and her young son Oscar. According to the hotel owner, Mrs. Hahn had informed him she lived in Cincinnati, Ohio, and was in Colorado on vacation. A quick check of the room revealed no clues, and Mrs. Hahn and her son were nowhere to be found.

In an attempt to determine whether the jewels and Mr. Obendorfer's premature death were related, investigators began visiting local pawnshops with the hope that the thief might have tried to sell the diamonds. It was not long before their efforts paid off.

One local shop owner informed them that a woman, who was accompanied by a young boy, had tried to pawn similar jewels, but the owner had decided not to purchase them. His description of the woman matched the hotel owner's description of Anna Hahn.

As Colorado authorities broadened their search for Hahn, they learned that a woman fitting her description had tried to withdraw $1,000 from a Denver bank using a Cincinnati bank book in the name of George Obendorfer. Even though the woman claimed to be Mrs. George Obendorfer, the bank manager, sensing something was not right, refused to make the transaction.

Detectives were convinced the woman in question was Anna Hahn. Investigators wasted little time securing an arrest warrant for Hahn for suspicion of grand larceny in the theft of the hotel jewelry. Suspecting she had fled the area and returned to Ohio, investigators contacted Cincinnati authorities for assistance. It was soon learned Hahn had returned home and Cincinnati investigators promptly picked her up.

When asked by Colorado investigators what she knew about George Obendorfer's death, Anna responded, and I quote, "'The man is a perfect stranger to me,' end quote. However, when reminded she had signed the hotel registry book for Obendorfer herself and her son, Anna changed her tune. She said, and I quote, "'I met him, George, on the train from Denver.'

He was Swiss. I felt sorry for him and was only trying to help him. End quote. Both teams of investigators knew Obendorfer was from Cincinnati, and they all doubted Anna's story. Luckily for investigators, several of George's relatives lived in the area and were able to shed some light on the situation. Through interviews with his family, investigators learned George had immigrated to Ohio from Russia,

years earlier. Based on this, I surmise that his real name was probably Georgi, and that it was anglicized into George after moving to America. A retired shoemaker and father of three, George had recently separated from his wife. Family members were also shocked by his sudden death, stating he had been in excellent health.

Nonetheless, more telling was one family member's revelation that Anna had in fact known George, and the two had been dating. The trip was, according to the relative, Anna's idea, and George had gone along under the premise they were going to visit a ranch she owned in Colorado Springs.

Confronted with this new evidence, Anna admitted to detectives that she knew George Obendorfer. She claimed to have met him weeks before in a local shoe shop, but denied the two had been involved in a recent relationship. Instead, she reverted back to her original story. Anna claimed it was by chance she had met George on the train, and they were coincidentally going on vacation to the same place.

According to Anna, she and George got along well during the trip and ultimately decided to share a room once they got to their mutual destination in Colorado Springs. However, shortly after arriving and registering at the hotel, George became ill and went to the hospital. Anna claimed to have had no further contact with him after that.

Investigators continued to doubt Anna's claims and decided to look further into her background for answers. Anna was a German native, born in 1906, and had immigrated to the city of Cincinnati in 1929, at the age of 23. Before coming to the United States, she had married a doctor from Vienna, Austria, and the couple had a child, Oscar.

Not long after the birth of their son, the family immigrated together, but the doctor died shortly after their arrival in the States. I have not managed to ascertain how he died, but considering later developments, that death can easily be described as suspicious. Anna had an aunt and uncle in Cincinnati's German district.

So she decided to stay in the country and make a new start. During a community dance at the Hotel Arms, Anna met a telegraph operator named Philip Hahn. The couple quickly fell in love and eventually wed. Philip desperately wanted to leave his job, so the couple saved their money and eventually opened two delicatessens.

Shortly thereafter, Anna's aunt and uncle died and left her their home on 2970 Coleraine Avenue. Their deaths can too, knowing Anna's crimes, now be classified as suspicious. While Anna's marriage to Philip may have appeared solid to outsiders, the young couple had their share of problems.

most of which seemed to have revolved around Anna's hunger for money. Anna seemed to tire quickly of her duties operating one of the couple's delicatessens and opted to work on various money-making schemes. Arson was apparently Anna's first choice, as there were three suspicious fires on the books, the first of which occurred at one of the delicatessens, located at 3007 Coleraine Avenue.

While the fire caused minimal damage, Anna still managed to collect $300 from the insurance company. The other two fires took place at the Hahn residence, the first on the 2nd of June 1935 and the second on the 20th of May 1936. Anna collected just over $2,000 for both fires. Regardless of her suspected taste for fire,

One of Anna's presumed schemes might have required the death of her husband, albeit by mere accident or brutal intent. On two separate occasions, Anna tried to secure a $25,000 life insurance policy on her husband, but each time she met resistance from him. Whether it was simple superstition or the fear of losing his life is unknown.

Regardless, what is known is that shortly thereafter, Philip Hahn became desperately ill and, against Anna's wishes, was taken to the hospital by his mother. Although Philip survived his mysterious illness, the marriage continued to suffer, and the couple eventually separated. After the falling out with her husband, and despite her lack of training or experience in the field,

Anna began working as a visiting nurse for elderly patients. It was perhaps this revelation that made investigators decide to follow up with several of her previous patients. Cincinnati investigators were shocked when they discovered that a separate case, the mysterious death of 78-year-old Jacob Wagner, had ties to Anna Hahn, whether by accident or through unconscious remorse.

Anna told investigators she had been caring for Wagner while working as a visiting nurse. The German native and retired gardener had mysteriously died two months earlier, and in his final will, he left his entire estate to Anna Hahn. While the coroner's report listed heart disease as the cause of death,

A suspicious friend had been badgering police to investigate, and an exhumation had just been granted in order to autopsy Wagner's remains. As investigators began putting the pieces together, they decided to visit Wagner's neighborhood. They soon learned that Anna had approached Wagner and claimed to have been a long-lost niece.

The elderly man knew he had no living relatives and balked at her claim, but soon, for some reason, relented and allowed her to help him with his day-to-day chores. Neighbors also claimed that Hahn had spent several hours in Wagner's apartment after his death.

An elderly woman named Olive Luella Kohler lived in the same apartment building as Wagner, had been befriended by Anna, and, on at least two occasions, had brought her ice-cream cone treats. However, after eating the second cone, Mrs. Kohler became violently ill and was admitted to the hospital.

While the police almost immediately became suspicious, it is unknown whether or not the elderly Mrs. Kohler herself ever connected the ice cream with her illness. Regardless, during her stay in the hospital, someone did in fact steal a bag from her residence, which contained an unknown amount of cash and jewelry.

It did not take long for investigators' suspicions to reach the media, which immediately published several stories about Hahn possibly poisoning elderly patients. While most of the initial reports were exaggerated and full of errors, they did serve to provide the police with several promising leads. One of those came from 62-year-old George Heiske,

According to Heiss, he had met Anna Hahn a year earlier. While the two appeared to get along in the beginning, Heiss claimed to have become suspicious of Anna when he became violently ill after drinking a mug of beer she poured for him. While he had never since felt like he was in good health, it was only after seeing reports in the newspaper that he decided to come forward with his story.

Investigators were beginning to fear Anna had been poisoning her elderly patients for money, and when they learned of yet another mysterious death in which Anna was acquainted with the victim, they launched yet another investigation. On the 6th of July, 1937, just weeks before Anna's trip to Colorado,

Another one of her patients, 67-year-old George Selman, died in his room at 1717 Elm Street. Friends of Selman's told authorities he had become suddenly ill after his last visit with Anna and died shortly thereafter. Investigators worked quickly to secure an order for exhumation and autopsy, which they were immediately granted.

During the coroner's preliminary examination of George Zellman, he discovered a metallic poison in the body. The substance was initially thought to be arsenic, but upon conducting further tests, it was found to be croton oil, a general household remedy used during the turn of the century. While the drug is usually not fatal in small doses, a large dose could easily kill.

Stedman's Medical Dictionary states that the drug could cause an intense burning pain in mouth, throat and abdomen, excessive salivation, vomiting and diarrhea with tenseness and passage of blood. In other words, anyone taking a large dose of the drug would meet a very brutal and agonizing end.

As investigators worked to gather their evidence, Philip Hahn came forward and gave them a half-ounce bottle of Croton oil he had taken away from his wife when the two lived together. Upon doing his own investigation into the effects of the drug, Philip had taken the bottle to work and hid it in a locker, suspecting that his wife had used it to poison him.

I kept intending to turn it over to police, he told the Cincinnati Post during a September 1937 interview. A pharmacist at a drugstore in North College Hill later confirmed that Anna purchased the oil on the 20th of July 1936. The druggist knew Anna personally.

and said she had told him her husband was a German druggist who used the oil in his practice. Because of her Colorado warrant, Anna continued to be detained by Cincinnati authorities. While the state of Colorado may have wanted to arrest her for the theft and question her about George Obendorfer's untimely death, Ohio was beginning to make their own case, and they were not about to let her go.

During a search of Anna's home, investigators found a promissory note for $2,000, money she had apparently borrowed from someone named Albert Palmer. During a follow-up investigation on the note, investigators learned that Albert Palmer was a 72-year-old resident of 2416 Central Parkway.

However, upon paying a visit to Palmer's home, they were informed by relatives he had died on the 27th of March, 1936, after having been ill for an extended period of time. It was also revealed that Anna Hahn had been caring for the man before his death. In addition,

Relatives also informed investigators that at least $4,000 was missing from Palmer's estate. Ohio authorities were getting more than they had bargained for, and their suspicions turned to allegations when the results of Jacob Wagner's autopsy came back.

While they found no trace of croton oil in his system, they did discover large quantities of arsenic, an all-too-common poison used by murderers then and now. Some poisons, such as cyanide and strychnine, work according to a strict timetable and dispatch their victims in a predictable manner.

Arsenic, by contrast, is mysterious and shilly-shallying, behaving more like an infectious disease, so that the nature and length of the victim's suffering depends partly on their genetic makeup and general state of health.

Death from acute arsenic poisoning can take anything from two hours to four days, although victims have been known to linger for two weeks. For most, though, the misery lasts at least 24 hours. As the poisoning develops, convulsions and changes in fingernail pigmentation called leuconychia may occur.

When the poisoning becomes acute, symptoms may include diarrhea, vomiting, vomiting blood, blood in the urine, cramping muscles, hair loss, extreme stomach pain, and more convulsions. The organs of the body that are usually affected by arsenic poisoning are the lungs, skin, kidneys, and liver. The final result of arsenic poisoning is coma and death.

It is a brutal, agonizing, and horrible way to die. Investigators decided to question Anna's son, Oscar, in hopes that he might be able to provide them with some answers.

while the young boy knew nothing of his mother's patience he did tell them that contrary to his mother's statements they had met george obendorfer by chance at the train station she had in fact purchased his ticket at union terminal in cincinnati

Oscar also informed them that his mother had served Obendorfer several drinks on the train and that the man began feeling ill prior to their arrival in Colorado. Deciding to move on Anna before her extradition to Colorado, Ohio authorities formally arrested her on the 10th of August 1937 and charged her with the murder of Jacob Wagner.

Hamilton County Prosecutors Dudley Outcalt, Loyal Martin, and Simon Lees were given the duty of presenting the state's case. For her defense, Anna was granted two attorneys, Joseph H. Hooden and Hiram Bosinger Sr. Anna Hahn's trial began on the 11th of October, 1937.

Common Police Court Judge Charles S. Bell presided, and a jury consisting of 11 women and one man were selected to hear the case. From the start, the prosecutors insisted that Anna had killed Jacob Wagner out of greed, pointing out that his money and estate was motive for the murder.

A barrage of witnesses was then called forth, starting with hospital employees who recounted Wagner's last agonizing days. According to the Cincinnati Inquirer, a chemist testified that the victim had enough arsenic in him to kill four men. A handwriting expert was then called forward and told the court that Wagner's will was a forgery and the handwriting was identical to Anna Hahn's.

In an unusual move, Judge Bell allowed the state to introduce evidence relating to the other poisoning cases in order to show a pattern of homicidal behavior. George Heiss, presumably the only surviving victim, was also called forward to discuss his encounters with harm and his subsequent illness.

As the state's case wound down, they presented the court with several exhibits, which, oddly enough, included Jacob Wagner and Albert Palmer's internal organs. The prosecution rested its case on the 29th of October, 1937.

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the defense was left only with the defendant once on the stand anna denied any wrong-doing and during cross-examination could not be slipped up this however amounted to little in comparison to the state's mountain of evidence and witnesses

With little else to do, the defense decided to hold their cards for closing arguments and rested their case on the 4th of November, 1937. The Cincinnati Crime Book states that Prosecutor Dudley Outcault was chosen to make the closing arguments for the state, and he wasted little time in getting to the point. I quote,

she is sly because she developed her relationships with old men who had no relatives and lived alone she is avaricious because no act was so low but that she was ready to commit it for the slightest of gains

She is cold-blooded like no other woman in the world, because no one could sit here for four weeks and hear this damaging parade of evidence and display no emotion. She is heartless, because nobody with a heart could deal out the death she dealt these old men. We've seen here the coldest, most heartless, cruel person that has ever come within the scope of our lives.

In the four corners of this courtroom stand four dead men.

Zelman, Palmer, Wagner, Obendorfer. From the four corners, bony fingers point at her and say, "'That woman poisoned me. That woman made my last moments an agony. That woman tortured me with the tortures of the damned.' Then, turning to you, they say, "'Let my death be not entirely in vain. My life cannot be brought back.'

but through my death and the punishment to be inflicted upon her you can prevent such a death from coming to another man from the four corners of this room those old men say to you do your duty i ask of you for the state of ohio that you withhold any recommendations of mercy

Following the prosecution's closing arguments, defense attorney Joseph H. Hoodin stood up for the defense and addressed the jury. Again, I quote, I will not say that a single witness lied, but this case has had such widespread publicity that it would have been impossible for these witnesses not to have preconceived ideas before they ever came into this courtroom.

Particularly, this is true of the witnesses from Wagner's neighborhood, where the case has been the chief topic of conversation for months. Although she is no angel, she is not guilty of the murder of Jacob Wagner. End quote. It took only two hours for the jury to return with their verdict. Anna Hahn sat motionless as the jury foreman read the decision.

Guilty, with no recommendation for mercy. Following the verdict, each jury member was polled and each one affirmed his or her vote. Anna was then handcuffed and led back to her jail cell. While the jury may not have immediately realized it at the time, their decision was historic.

the lack of recommendation for mercy meant that anna hahn would automatically be sentenced to death and the state of ohio had never executed a woman before on the tenth of november nineteen thirty seven anna was again brought before judge bell

However, this time there was no question of her guilt, and the sole purpose of the hearing was to announce her ultimate fate. Judge Bell asked Anna if she had anything she wanted to say. "'I have,' she replied. "'I'm innocent, Your Honor.' Judge Bell paused momentarily, and then formally sentenced her. I quote, "'I'm innocent, Your Honor.'

It is ordered, adjudged, and desired by the court that the defendant, Anna Maria Hahn, be taken hence to jail in Hamilton County, Ohio, and that, within thirty days hereof, the sheriff of Hamilton County shall convey the said defendant to the Ohio Penitentiary and deliver her to the warden thereof,

and that on the tenth day of march nineteen thirty eight the said warden shall cause a current of electricity sufficient to cause death to pass through the body of the said defendant the application of such current to be continued until the said defendant is dead

Looking directly into Anna's eyes, he concluded, and may God, in his infinite wisdom, have mercy on your soul. Anna Maria Hahn was transferred to the Ohio State Penitentiary on the 1st of December 1937. Her attorneys kept the court system busy with appeals, and her 10th of March execution date came and went.

Her case passed through the Ohio court system several times before being taken to the United States Supreme Court. Nonetheless, they agreed with the state of Ohio and refused to block her execution. On Tuesday, the 6th of December, 1938, Ohio Governor Martin L. Davey made a formal statement in which he refused to interfere with the decision of the courts.

Later that day, accounts on local radio by a special dispatch from the Cincinnati Inquirer reported that Anna's execution was scheduled for eight o'clock the next evening. The following day, Anna spent much of her time writing four separate letters, which she later handed to her attorneys.

As the clock grew nearer, her emotions became more difficult to control, and she was an emotional wreck by the time prison authorities arrived to walk her down the green mile to the death chambers.

"'Oh, Heavenly Father! Oh, God! Oh, God! I can't go! I won't go!' she cried out. She was unable to walk to the chamber on her own, and the guards had to partially carry her into the death chamber. As they made their way into the grisly room with the wooden electric chair in the middle, Anna passed out and collapsed to the floor.

Officials quickly revived her with an ammonia capsule and then strapped her into the chair. Don't do this to me, she continued to cry out. Oh, no, no, no, Warden Woodard, don't let them do this to me. Tears began to roll down the Warden Woodard's face as he solemnly replied, I'm sorry, but we can't help it.

Upon hearing the warden's words, Anna began to scream. "'Please don't! Oh, my boy! Think of my boy! Won't someone, won't anyone come and do something for me? Isn't there anybody to help me? Anyone? Anyone? Is nobody going to help me?'

As prison officials let the clock click down in the off chance that the governor might call, Anna called out for Father John Sullivan, the prison chaplain. "'Father, come close,' she said. Together the two began to recite the Lord's Prayer. But just halfway through, the switch was thrown and Anna's body jerked and convulsed as the electricity flowed through it.

For those of my listeners who belong to the TSK $10 Plus Club, you will be familiar with the particulars regarding execution by electrocution. For execution by the electric chair, the person is usually shaved and strapped to a chair with belts that cross her chest, groin, legs and arms. A metal skullcap-shaped electrode is attached to the scalp.

and forehead over a sponge moistened with saline. The sponge must not be too wet, for the saline short-circuits the electric current, and not too dry, as it would have a very high resistance. An additional electrode is moistened with conductive jelly called electro-cream, and attached to a portion of the prisoner's leg that has been shaved to reduce resistance to electricity.

The prisoner is then blindfolded. After the execution team has withdrawn to the observation room, the warden signals the executioner, who pulls a handle to connect the power supply. A jolt of between 500 and 2000 volts, which lasts for about 30 seconds, is given. The current surges and is then turned off, at which time the body is seen to relax.

The doctors wait a few seconds for the body to cool down and then checks to see if the inmate's heart is still beating. If it is, another jolt is applied. This process continues until the prisoner is dead. The prisoner's hands often grips the chair and there may be violent movement of the limbs which can result in dislocation or fractures. The tissues swell.

Defecation occurs, steam or smoke rises, and there is a smell of burning. U.S. Supreme Court Justice William Brennan once offered the following description of an execution by electric chair, and I quote, The prisoner's eyeballs sometimes pop out and rest on the prisoner's cheeks. The prisoner often defecates, urinates, and vomits blood and drool.

The body turns bright red as its temperature rises, and the prisoner's flesh swells, and his skin stretches to the point of breaking. Sometimes the prisoner catches fire. Witnesses hear a loud and sustained sound like bacon frying, and a sickly sweet smell of burning flesh permeates the chamber."

At post-mortem, the body is hot enough to blister if touched, and the autopsy is delayed while the internal organs cool. There are third-degree burns, with blackening where the electrodes meet the skin of the scalp and legs. According to Robert H. Kirshner, the deputy chief medical examiner of Cook County, the brain appears cooked in most cases.

And, after meeting this fate, sitting in the electric chair, Anna Maria Hahn was officially pronounced dead at 8.13 p.m. on Wednesday, the 7th of December, 1938.

The Ohio Historical Society reports that on December 8, 1938, Anna Maria Hahn's body was buried in unsanctified ground at Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery in Columbus, Ohio. Following Anna's execution, on the 17th of December, 1938,

Defense attorney Joseph H. Hoodin announced that the letters Anna had given him the night of her execution had been sold to the Cincinnati Inquirer, and the money was put into a trust for Anna's son, Oscar. The next day, the paper announced that they would be publishing the letters on the following two days. From the letters, I quote, I don't know how I could have done the things I did in my life,

only god knows what came over me when i gave albert palmer that first one that poison that caused his death when i stood by mr wagner as he was laid out at the funeral home i don't know how it was i didn't scream out at the top of my voice i couldn't in my mind believe that it was me

I can't believe it even today. I couldn't believe it when, in the court, those people came to the room and told the jury how they said these men died. I was sitting there, hearing a story like out of a book, all about another person. As things come to my mind now, and as I put them on this paper, I can't believe I am writing about things I did myself. However,

"'They must be about me, because they are in my mind, and I know them. God above will tell me what made me do these terrible things. I couldn't have been in my right mind when I did them. I loved all people so much. Now I am so close to death. Death is all around me. I have been here on death row for what seems another lifetime already. Several other people in this place have been called out.'

Anna went on to tell of her life in Germany and her eventual immigration to the United States. She then began to recount the circumstances which she claimed eventually led to her life of crime. I went into business again, always thinking about my boy that would have money to raise him properly. However, business was bad again, and this time, before I lost everything,

I sold it to pay all my debts. In a little while, though, this money went. My husband and I had been out of work, and I started worrying about my boy's future. I became crazy with fears that my boy and I would starve. I signed some notes for my husband. Because I had signed these notes, they threatened to take my Coleraine Avenue house away from me.

to sell the house over my head and throw me and my boy out into the street. Then it was that I started gambling and playing the racehorses. I wanted to make some money for my boy, end quote. During one of her outings to the horse track, Anna met Albert Palmer. The two grew closer over time, and Anna eventually started to borrow betting money from Albert. She continued, and I quote, I paid much of it back,

Then, when I didn't pay it back fast enough to suit him, then it was that he wanted me to be his girl. He threatened me that if I didn't do what he asked, he would get his attorney to get the rest of the money that I had borrowed from him. He wouldn't leave me alone. God knows that I did not want to kill him, and I don't know what put such a thought in my head. I remembered that down in the cellar was some rat poison.

Something in my mind kept saying to me, give him a little of this and he won't trouble you anymore. I don't know what made me do it, but I slipped some of the poison in the oysters. I told him to go on home and he left at the same time threatening what he was going to do to me." A short time later, Anna learned from one of Albert's relatives that he had become suddenly ill and was in the hospital.

She describes this as follows. "'I visited him just as soon as I could, and he was very nice to me. He told me that he was sorry for the way that he had treated me. I prayed that he would get well. Nobody knows the things that went through my mind. I told the nurses and doctors to do everything they could to make him well, but on Holy Thursday Mr. Palmer died. Only I knew why.'

Anna described a struggle within her and the problems she had accepting what she had done. Nevertheless, the battle was short-lived, and it was not long before she moved on. In describing her encounter with George Heiss, Anna denied any wrongdoing, but did admit foul play in regards to Jacob Wagner's ultimate fate.

Apparently, Anna had stolen some of Wagner's bank books, and when he found out, she became scared that he would turn her in. She wrote as follows. "'I got scared that if the police would start questioning me, maybe all this about Mr. Palmer would come out. Something cried out in me to stop him, so that all my troubles wouldn't start again.'

i don't know what guided my hand but i fixed him some orange juice and placed a half of teaspoon of the powder poison which i took from my purse in the glass mr wagner drank it down early the next day i went back to the room and mr wagner was very sick i knew what i had done to him

it was another mind that made me do these things i didn't do them i cannot describe how i felt when mr wagner died that i had something to do with his death

i did not harm mr wagner for his money i never had such a thought it was not until mr wagner had died that i wrote the will i placed in his room on the afternoon that a man from the probate came to mr wagner's room

the poison that i used is for all that i know still in my house i found it first in the paint cupboard in the basement if i had never found that poison in the first place i know that i would not be in all this trouble right now

in regard to george selman and george obendorfer anna had little to say while she did not describe the circumstances surrounding the two men's premature deaths she did appear to take credit for them i quote

"'I cannot say anything about these other cases that came after, Mr. Yeltsin and that last one, Mr. Obendorfer, except that they died of the same symptoms, and as I face my maker, I take full responsibility for what happened in them. There were times in the courtroom, the times that the newspaper wrote, that I seemed worried, that I was just about ready to cry out.'

I was just about ready to cry out. I could hardly keep my secret in me. It seemed that I would have to cry out, I wanted to cry out, that they were trying the other Anaheim and not this one, sitting in the courtroom. Somehow I kept the secret. I hope that God will take care of my son, for I would not want anything to happen to my boy.

i feel that god has shown me my wrongs in life and my only regret is that i have not the power to undo the trouble and heartache that i have caused signed anna maria hahn

Anna's son, 12-year-old Oscar Hahn, was placed with a foster family in the Midwest. The Cincinnati Crime Book claims that the newspaper kept its promise to Anna and bankrolled the boy's education and never revealed his name or whereabouts to the public. The only thing ever released about Oscar was that he lived a normal life and eventually fought for the Navy during World War II.

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