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Newt Gingrich on What Trump Could Accomplish in a Second Term

2024/10/7
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Newt Gingrich, a former House Speaker, discusses his views on Donald Trump's political style, the Republican Party's need for a more aggressive approach, and Trump's potential in a second term. Gingrich reflects on his own role in shifting the Republican Party towards a more combative stance.
  • Newt Gingrich advocated for a more aggressive approach in the Republican Party long before Trump's rise.
  • Gingrich believes Trump's aggressive style is necessary to challenge the established political order.
  • Gingrich supports Trump despite disagreeing with some of his rhetoric.

Shownotes Transcript

Long before Donald Trump got serious about politics, Newt Gingrich saw himself as the revolutionary in Washington, introducing a combative style of politics that helped his party become a dominating force in Congress. Setting the template for Trump, Gingrich described Democrats not as an opposing team with whom to make alliances but as an alien force—a “cultural élite”—out to destroy America. Gingrich has written no fewer than five admiring books about Trump, and he was involved in pushing the lie of the stolen election of 2020. Like many in the Party, he balks at some of Trump’s tactics, but always finds an excuse. “I would probably not have used the language Trump used,” for example in calling Vice-President Kamala Harris “mentally disabled,” Gingrich says. “Partly because I think that it doesn’t further his cause. . . . I would simply say that he is a very intense personality . . . and occasionally he has to explode.” But he sees Trump as seasoned and improved with age, and his potential in a second term far greater. “It’s almost providential: he’s had four years [out of office] to think about what he’s learned . . . and he has a much deeper grasp of what has to be done and how to do it.”