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Newt Gingrich on What Trump Could Accomplish in a Second Term

2024/10/4
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Newt Gingrich's early advocacy for "nasty" politics foreshadowed Trump's aggressive rhetoric. Gingrich, while not endorsing all of Trump's language, justifies it as a necessary tool against a perceived "cultural elite." He views Trump's intensity and occasional outbursts as part of his personality, not necessarily flaws.
  • Gingrich's 1978 speech encouraged Republicans to be "nasty" in politics.
  • Gingrich believes Trump's aggressive style is necessary to challenge the established political order.
  • Gingrich views Trump as a complex figure with both strengths and weaknesses.

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Long before Donald Trump got serious about politics, Newt Gingrich saw himself as the revolutionary in Washington, introducing a combative style of party politics that helped his party become a dominating force in Congress. Setting the template for Trump, Gingrich described Democrats not as an opposing team with whom to make alliances but as an alien force—a “cultural élite”—out to destroy America. Gingrich has written no less than five admiring books about Trump, and he was involved with pushing the lie of the stolen election of 2020. Like many in the Party, he balks at some of Trump’s tactics, but always finds an excuse. “I would probably not have used the language Trump used,” for example in calling Vice-President Kamala Harris “mentally disabled,” Gingrich says. “Partly because I think that it doesn’t further his cause. . . . I would simply say that he is a very intense personality . . . and occasionally he has to explode.” But he sees Trump as seasoned and improved with age, and his potential in a second term far greater. “It’s almost providential: he’s had four years [out of office] to think about what he’s learned . . . and he has a much deeper grasp of what has to be done and how to do it.”