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Hello, folks. I think that's the new intro. We're waiting all week for that. Hello, folks. Welcome to the Nate Land Podcast. This is I am Nate Bargetti with Aaron Weber, Brian Bates. We got a new slogan. Hello, folks. I think it's how you start every show. It's how I want to start my live shows.

It's such a good show. We have kind of a packed show for you today. Again, thanks for listening, all the subscribing, all that stuff. But we're going to just kind of get into it because we got a lot. And so we're going to read the comments. First up, Jordan Butler.

It has become a regular routine for me to end my day watching Nate Land podcast on YouTube before going to bed. Last night, I must have fallen asleep on the couch. I learned the next morning that my seven-year-old daughter had woken up in the middle of the night, found me asleep on the couch with Nate Land on, and proceeded to watch one and a half episodes before going back to bed. I love having a podcast show. I thoroughly enjoy it while not having to be concerned if my kids come in for a bit to watch, regardless of my conscious status.

Love watching you guys. Keep doing what you're doing. That's awesome. Yeah. That's awesome. One and a half episodes. I mean, that's a... Your daughter was... I mean, if it's a typical kid, probably a bit of a mood the next day. I mean, that's how... That's when you wake up the next day. But I don't know. Sometimes they're not in the mood because I feel like they felt like they got away with it. They did something adult. And so at seven, which mine just turned eight, so...

They would be, we're the same age. She would be, you know, I think we would be like, see, you're in a bad mood. And then she would be like, no. So she would be in a good mood just to prove to us that, yeah, I can get up at...

1 a.m and watch uh i mean possible and what if it was a two and a half hours i mean yeah i mean she might have she probably just had coffee at 6 a.m when he woke up and was like hey dad hello dad hello dad yeah she's doing all this stuff do you want some breakfast all right she's being fun you know worried breakfast um paul chickwitten

G'day, lads. G'day. G'day, lads. I live in rural Australia with my wife, three kids, and a rooster and some sheep. This podcast comes out at 6 p.m. Wednesday evening every week. I look forward to it, and I appreciate you putting on such a reasonable time to your dozens of Australian fans. It would be great if you three came and toured Australia, although a dingo is quite likely to run off with bath salts. He called you bath salts.

Seriously, though, love the dry, laid-back humor. It's actually very Australian. We'd love to come to her, but as you said, our dozens of fans is going to cost us $10,000 to do that show. I've been asked to come to Australia multiple times. There's a Just for Laughs festival. There's a festival out there.

And I'm always kind of want to go and we're always trying to kind of plan on it. But it is, it's such a, you know, flight. It's such a thing to go out there. I didn't get it young enough. And now with my daughter eight,

I am going to come, but I want her to go. She could get a little more older. I feel like 10. I've been to Australia. I've been to Australia. World traveler over here. How about that? What'd you do? It was a church group that went there. Oh, okay. Two weeks. Two weeks? Mm-hmm. That's fun. How old were you? It was 2001, so it was late 20s. Yeah, okay. Okay.

So were you in college? In my late 20s? No. Yeah, I don't know. You don't even know what college is. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I was getting my post-doctorate, master's, MBA. Yeah. My wife was college late. My dad went to college late. All right. Ray Clark. Thank you all, Nate, Aaron, and Boomer. Today I took a test to become a certified manager at my work, and I was incredibly nervous. But on the drive there, I listened to your podcast, and it calmed me down so much. I was able to focus and pass my test.

I love you guys and have been watching since episode two. Will Aaron's first album be available on Apple Music? Doubt it. Aaron? I hope so. Yeah. I think, yeah, it'll be out. Yeah, it'll be everywhere. It'll be everywhere. What's it called? I'm going to call it Shirts and Skins, I think. Oh, you're still deciding? No, I think I've kind of... Shirts and Skins is what I want.

You could still come up with something else. You're right. I could change my mind. Yeah. Wasn't it something else like last week? I don't know. Have we talked about it before? I thought I heard y'all say that Diet Coke and something...

Diet Coke and M&M's. I thought you said that in the... Oh, no. No, no, no. That was something else. That was the Aaron Webber special if you want to order something. It would be a Diet Coke and M&M's. Oh, yeah. At a concession stand. At a concession stand. Yeah. I'll take the Aaron Webber. But then, yeah. Then you said peanuts because it should be... That's right. Peanuts and Coke. Yeah, we were talking about that in the green room. There's a club that has Aaron Webber specials. Yeah.

Oh, wow. And it's Diet Coke. It's Diet Coke at M&M's. What club is this? That's Third Coast Comedy Club here in Nashville. Wow. Because Aaron Webber is special. Yeah. So you'll be able to get his album on everywhere. You can buy Brian's. Is yours on iTunes? I don't think so. Huh? It's got to be on something. You don't have it on anything? It's on Sirius. It's on my website and it's...

I don't know. Yeah. Next one. Yours has to be called Hello Folks. You can get it at the Wilson County Livestock Auction. That guy's got two. Yeah. You can get it. Pretty sweet deal. Mike would give it to you. Would just be happy to give you. He'll throw it in. Yeah. You know, because then you throw that CD. Hey, you look like a nice fellow. I'll throw this CD in. Justin Barcelos. Maybe I'm getting old, but podcasts I used to find entertaining are stressing me out. I need to listen to only podcasts like this that are just chill.

There you go, Justin. That's what this is about, man. I've thought of it more and more. We did shows this past weekend, and we're about to go on tour. The drive-in, my drive-in one-night-only tour, tickets are on sale. I said it, not to randomly promote that, but go buy tickets, all that stuff. It starts this week. But yes, I think...

You know, there's a lot, man. It's a lot. You know that Schitt's Creek, the show? Yeah. Didn't they win all the Emmys? They won everything. Everything. And that's kind of just a very comedy show. I haven't watched it, actually, but I need to watch it. I always hear great things about it, but it's just comedy. Like, it's very funny. Like The Office or something, right? Is that what it is? Do y'all know? Yeah, I've seen it. We were just talking about it. Yeah, it's not heavy at all. Yeah, it's not heavy. It's just light and fun and just silly. Yeah.

I think, you know. It's what people want. It could be. It honestly could be. You could see a swing going. You know, I feel in comedy, you got to end up, you kind of pick and choose where you, because sometimes you can feel like you're like, well, we need to say something. You know, you want to end up doing something. And, but I think it's, I think it's hard to not say something.

I think it's, you know, it's like, cause you end up going, well, you're seeing everybody, all these videos, all these, these guys get all these views. Cause they just say something, you know, uh, controversial, controversial, and they just spread it out. But I think it's, you know, there's a lot of that. It's all that. That's all that it is. And I think if you can stay in your lane, which is, I talked to someone about this yesterday, Dan Soder.

It's like, just do this. And look, and that was good. You don't ever see that. Usually, you think every show is going to be... It's this... Everything that's going to win everything has got to be something that makes people upset. And you'll go on some rants, but it's about things that are not important at all. I mean, yeah, you're getting... You're going nowhere. Yeah. You definitely don't come here and leave better. I think you leave... Some nuggets. Yeah, there's some nuggets, and then you leave with just...

I don't know. Like you said, like that. Perfect. You're not stressed out. Yeah. You just get to leave and be like, I don't know, man. I watched some dumb stuff. I mean, when we watch Seinfeld every night, that is dumb stuff. It's just so nice. And you need it. I mean, there's plenty of times I want to watch something, news or something. But there's a lot of times. I'm going through these old movies, watching Inception. It's been my third day. Still haven't finished it.

I'm really focusing on trying to figure out what it's about. Yeah. I think I got it. It's all dreams. But I mean, you know. He cracked it. Yeah. It's all, they live, it's this dream, this dream. Yeah, it is about dreams. They keep putting each other in sleep. Everybody's asleep. So. I never thought of it that way. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I remember it being a lot. Yeah. It is. I don't think I really got it. Like, you're trying to see, you know, him explaining it. It's pretty good. If you haven't seen Inception, everybody, go check it out. Reynolds Seal. Reynolds Seal. Sounds like a company. Here at Reynolds Seal.

Like Reynolds Wrap. Yeah, Reynolds Wrap. Reynolds Seal. Reynolds Seal. It's his brother. It's Reynolds Wrap. We don't just wrap it, we seal it. He goes, what do you want? Reynolds Wrap where you got to do it? How about you? Do you want your turkey sealed shut here at Reynolds Seal? We...

Are you tired of, and he's holding up Reynolds wrap, are you tired of just the holes falling in? And you think, you know what? I wish I could seal my soup from last night. Well, here at Reynolds seal, and then they're in a big fight about it. It's ugly at the, every Christmas, every, he brings all the stuff in Reynolds wrap. He brings stuff in Reynolds seal. Can't get the seal open. So people get upset about that. He goes, yeah, well, it's fresher. You got to earn it.

My wife asked me what I'm listening to that makes me laugh so much. Never in a million years would I have thought the answer would have been a podcast about grocery stores. Keep up the Lord's work, boys. Look at that. Grocery stores. Suddenly, Reynolds Sill enjoyed the grocery store. Of course he does. His product's in there. Yeah. Thank you, Reynolds. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Grocery stores. Nicole's Butcher. These all sound like stores. Yeah.

Do they not? Nicole's butch... You know? Here at Nicole's Butcher, we exclusively use Reynolds Seal. I... Yeah. I mean, it's all just... Hi. I'm Nicole. And Nicole's Butcher. And... Is it Nicole's? I don't know. Is it not Nicole's? You're emphasizing the butcher part. Like... Like, Nicole didn't write it. She got her butcher to comment for her. Yeah. Yeah.

Hi. Oh, yeah. Hi. I'm Nicole's Butcher. And I know you might be thinking, why did she send me out to give her answers? But Nicole's busy right now, and she can't be bothered. Who's Nicole? Is it Nicole's? It might be Nicholas. Nicholas Butcher? Oh, man. Nicole's Butcher. How you doing? I'm Nicole's Butcher. Sir, what are you doing here? I'm Nicole's Butcher.

Grocery stores? Huh? I can't wait until next week when the team discusses the history of bubbles. All right, Nicole. I don't care if Butcher needs to... Butcher's not a fan. We would do a history of bubbles. That actually sounds pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. But... Would that hurt the cameras if we blew bubbles? Bubbles. Okay. Justin Squitieri. A few episodes back, you read a comment from someone about the happiness, your theme song. Oh, yeah.

A few episodes back, you read a comment from someone about the happiness your theme song brings to them when they hear it start. So naturally, you changed it. Great to see you doing what the people want. That is very funny. We don't, I mean, yeah. So about that, though, just so you know, before we started, I was getting a buddy of mine, Doug Brown. He was in the band Safety Suits.

female safety suit and doug's a songwriter now he does i mean they say they still do shows safety suits but he songwriting he's into that me and doug golf a lot uh just a just a gem of a human being wonderful wonderful fellow he's got a great family and uh so he wrote the new and i've completely forgot to mention because we just kind of put it in but he wrote that new theme song

So that's actually, cause we were trying to, cause someone else said the other one does sound like it's been picked out of music, you know, like stock and it was. So this one is actually tailored to us. This was written, this was made for us. So that's Doug. So we do have a new theme song. It's a fun one. Yeah. Thank you, Doug. Yeah. Way to go, Doug.

Matt Parrish, I'd pay good money to see how worried Bronco's face looked on the bird scooter and to see his moving dismount. I think I like that whole sentence. I'd pay good money to see how worried Bronco's face looked on the bird scooter. It just kind of flowed. He chose very good words that flowed together. Bronco's, worried Bronco's face, bird scooter. I mean, just a wonderful... That sentence is right up my alley. Could you not find that video of...

Not that I want to show it, but... Of you doing it? I didn't look. But maybe it's there. You know, just imagine. I'm sure we can find one on America's Funniest Home Videos that gets the gist of it. Yeah. Lena Peter. Watching Aaron get laughed when someone's telling a story is the best. His laugh is completely contagious. That's nice. It's called COVID. That's very nice. He does get a good laugh. Way to go, Aaron. Thank you. Anthony Contaldo.

Do you guys feel constant pressure to come up with new bits to the point where it affects everyday life? Like, are you at the zoo with your family, preoccupied, looking for new material? Yeah, I mean, I think you do. I feel pressure. I think right now in my act, I need five more minutes and I'd be happy. If I could get five minutes somewhere. So I'm kind of aware that I need five minutes. And then once I tape a special, which...

I will be taping a special at the end of October, which is all that one night only tour is my preparation for that. So come out to that one night only tour. Uh, but when I, when I, when I'm done with this hour, then I'll, yeah, I'll need to come up with a lot of stuff.

It gets hard when you actually have your – when you have the axe built, it's hard to add on. But when you have nothing, a clean slate, I feel it's easier to add stuff. That's interesting. When I really need stuff, I can kind of get stuff quickly. And then when I kind of already am full and it's like I feel like the axe built and like you're saying I need this extra five minutes, it's a little tough for me to find that five minutes. It's like losing that last five pounds. Yeah. It's a little harder. A little harder. Exactly. That's a good analogy.

So, yes, at the zoo, I would be, you know, I can get, you know, I can kind of get zoned out and I'm looking. I watch a lot of people. I like watching interactions with people. So, Joan Winter, did Laura's family have any concerns about her supporting you while you got your career started? Love the show. Look forward to seeing you at OKC. Yeah, I think so. I mean, Laura, when she got her job in New York, you know, I mean, I think they were worried about it.

It wasn't this crazy long out thing. I mean, it was probably 10 years, 11 years before I was at least making as much money as I would be at Applebee's. Like the job I would have. So that's your first where you're going at least, all right, I'm at least, you know, some of you make 20 grand a year. Like that's like big. So it's, yeah. But I mean, I think our family was definitely...

I mean, it was such a weird thing. You know, my family comes from entertainment and their family. But they're good now? Yeah, they're fine now. They get it. I don't think her mom likes this podcast, but we talked about that. She goes, I was talking to her about it and she's wonderful. And she's like, so what? Just like asking a lot of, so y'all just...

I mean, it just seems like you don't really talk about anything. It's exactly like the grocery store bubbles. Arthur Newman. Aaron is right about the Disney signature logo. The D looks like a G. There we go. It does if it's back. I mean, if we're just saying stuff can be backwards. And look, an I looks like a one if it's upside down. So I guess that's what we're agreeing on. Well, that's how little it looks like a D, that it looks more like a backwards G than a D. And I got to say, the outpouring of support about the Disney gate was...

Yeah. Has been overwhelming. Yeah. We've never had one that's so many comments. Should it be Gizney Date? Gizney Date. Gizney Date. Oh, that's perfect. That's good. Not one comment supporting Zaldi, though. Oh, well. That's crazy. And people all thought it was G. I got a lot. Well, apparently we got a lot of dumb listeners. I think one person said Zaldi, but I think they were just being nice. Oh, yeah? Oh, that's a good person.

No, I've never heard the D. I said it to Harper and Carter, both eight years old, and they both disagreed. Carter did say, oh, yeah, it looks like it could be a G backwards.

But I mean, I guess if we're opening the logic of going, the words are just backwards. And I mean, they could all be something. Yeah. I mean, the Y looks like a broomstick. If you turn it upside down, it's an H. I mean, like there's a million, you know, I didn't know that we could just do whatever we want. All right. Disney Disney date. Yeah.

Tim Harris. Nate is right about the shopping carts. Carts with all four wheels that swivel can get out of hand. Ikea already has them in a scene from Tokyo Drift as possible around every corner. You never know when you might happen upon a Talladega turn. Four-style pileup. They literally should have yellow flags and a pace cart to keep the carnage under control. That's funny. Just people just seeing them just come around corners just flying. Not thinking. Running Funk.

That's so funny.

I mean, how crazy is that? Yeah. That they just know. They know. Just let it go. Let them cry it out. Let them cry it out. I mean, it's like being a parent. That's exactly what it is. If you want to know what being a parent is like, I guess go work at Walmart. If you're like, hey, I'd like to get a trial run at being a parent, go to Walmart. You're going to let them cry and do whatever. Why is the woman crying in this story? She's faking the fall. Oh, okay.

Wow, that's hilarious. It's that common. They just laugh it off. Yeah, it's that common. I'm sure they're like, if we get involved, then they could. It's almost like going to a child who's crying and you just want to act like nothing happened, right? Yeah, yeah. When a kid gets hurt, sometimes it's, or if they do, instead of going over and being like, are you okay? You kind of let them, it's a tension. If they're not really hurt, I've had plenty of that.

But they just kind of go, it's fine. Hi, Jonathan Oreck. My family and I were going on vacation a couple weeks ago and stopped at a Wendy's for a bite to eat. Me, my wife, and my brother were in one car, first in line. My mom, dad, and our sons were in the car behind us. We ordered, and then we got to the window. I said, I'd like to pay for mine and the vehicle behind me. You could tell the poor girl working the window didn't have a clue what I was talking about. After some lengthy explaining, she let me pay for both.

My dad got to the window and she told him his was paid for. He said he would like to pay for the car behind him. And the girl at the window told him, we don't do that here anymore. Oh, that's unbelievable. I mean, just, oh, we used to do that, but we don't do it anymore. Oh, you used to right in the car in front. Yeah. A minute ago, one minute ago, we used to do stuff like that all the time, but now we don't now, not anymore. That's so funny. Yeah.

I mean, I just love the explanation. There's definitely times you try to do something nice and the person cannot wrap their head around it and you go, it's just not worth it. That's crazy that this guy stuck it out. I mean, that's so funny. He's like, all right, I'll just keep playing. We don't do that here anymore. I mean, she was probably so thrilled that that car was gone. Yeah. Like, all right. Yeah.

What a nightmare. And then yours has already been paid for. And then just again, just right back in it. Good for her for that answer. We don't do that here anymore. Oh, that's wonderful. Here we go. This is going to be a tough one. Rick, no. I'm amazed. Bartholomew. Is that how you say it? I don't know how to say that. Bartholomew. Yeah. Oh, that is Bartholomew. We had it right the first time. I have a real hard time with that word. Bartholomew.

Is that it? Yeah, good. There's no way that sounds right. Bartholomew. Bartholomew. Come here. I mean, just a... I am amazed Bartholomew did not Google peanuts and Coke. The history is pretty great. Workers would do it to not touch their peanuts with their dirty hands. Great podcast, gents. I didn't know that. Makes sense. I guess like up there because they don't... I mean, just don't eat peanuts.

I guess they're really not that bad. It's just so funny to think that they don't, you know, it's like, well, how are we going to carry them? Oh, we'll just ruin them.

They're not ruined, though. I know, but they kind of are. I mean, it's kind of insane to go, I don't want to grab these peanuts. You know what? Just ruin the whole point of them and pour them in your drink. Who thinks to do that? Someone said that farmers driving tractors would do that so they could keep one hand on the wheel and have their drink and their meal in the other hand. Spill all the water. It's...

Yeah, I don't know. It's just such a funny idea to think. I'm trying to think what else. If you're trying to carry, you're like, I got a sandwich and I don't want you to get it dirty. I'll just put it in your water bottle.

I mean, that's essentially the same, you know. It's a little more practical than that. Well, it's the same theory. I mean, you don't think you're going to have a guy try that, you know? Sandwich in the water bottle? I got a sandwich and a bag of chips, but... That doesn't sound bad. And then, you know what? I'm putting my bag of chips in my... You never put chips on your sandwich? I put them on the sandwich. There you go. But I'm talking about in the soda. That's what the Coke is what I'm talking about. Like, that's the whole point of this. That's normal. I would put chips on my sandwich. I think you just got to prove my point with the chips on the sandwich. I don't know how that does it.

You know, I'm saying if you had dirty hands. Yeah. All right. Anyway, I'm going to go put water. Yeah. You know what? Could I get some, uh, oranges in that? Want just something. You know what? I never liked oranges. I think my hands sticky. So I just put them in my sweet tea. Uh, where's your keys at? Oh, my keys are in my Mountain Dew bottle. I didn't have pockets. So I just threw my keys in there. Uh,

Bob Hafner, another great addition to finish Nate's thoughts yourself. I do do that a lot.

So, you know what? I'll let y'all jump in too. A little exercise. Cameron Rodriguez, when Blanket Bates, Blanket's a wonderful name. When Blanket Bates reads it like he was called on to read for the class and he's trying to impress the teacher, but still sound cool by not caring that much. That's true. That's how when you read. That's very specific. Yeah. But I feel like he nailed it.

Or she nailed it. She nailed it. Cameron Rodriguez. Hard to tell. I would say it's a girl. I say there's some truth to that. I'm trying to read it properly, but yet not too good because Nate takes offense that people can read well. He's got a new shirt, new haircut. I mean, someone came into some money. First day of fall. This is new money right here. I didn't think we were making money on this podcast yet, but apparently someone's got a site. I mean, he's doing ads on just seeing local ads going high.

I'm Breakfast Bates. Yeah. Hello, folks. I'm, hey, are you here? I'm Breakfast. My name's, you don't think I know Breakfast, but I know Breakfast. Here at Waffle House, we do breakfast all day long. I mean, do you think he, I think you'd be the first to be doing some commercials. Yeah, you guys don't know what I got going on. Hello, folks.

Chris Seibert. Who's going to tell Nate there's no such thing as Tostino's pizza? I know. It's my favorite, though. Totino's, right? We basically knew this last week. We just was late. You said it so confidently that I left thinking, okay, there's Tostino's pizza rolls, and then there must be a pizza called Totino's because you said it so confidently. Yeah.

I know. I questioned it last week on the podcast. I questioned it, but I just kept saying it. I was even thought I was wrong, but you know, I was like, might as well just go in. I love them. I've eaten two of them after these shows this weekend. I just, I mean, that's my, almost my favorite pizza. I just, you know, so good.

I used to love Piggly Wiggly's pizza. We used to eat that at my brief volunteer state community college. We'd drive home to my parents afterwards, and we'd cook those small self- You'd just make your own little Piggly Wiggly pizza. It was wonderful. I like bad pizza.

The lunch pizza that's square rectangle. Oh, yeah. That's come on. Yeah, it's good. I know. So if I go eat lunch with my daughter at her school and they have that, I'll take two, please. Red beard. The only information Nate got right about Big Red was the name Big Red from Texas cream soda. Well, my dad drinks it. I got that right. Take that, Red Beard. Yeah. Red Beard. Yeah.

This guy work for Big Red? Yeah. Or something? I get really offended by that. I feel like he just gets called in on all red things. Hey, Red. This guy got Big Red wrong. What? It's just anything red. The gum? Yeah. They got some fire truck information wrong, Red. And he comes in. What? And then he comes in. Hey, he doesn't even listen to the podcast. He just comes in to if we say anything that's red wrong.

Derek visor or visor. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like britches is getting a little too big for his brains for his Brian's. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like britches is getting a little too big for his Brian's. It was easier to feel bad for him when he seemed like an innocent victim, but now he either plays up the attacks for sympathy or throw some zingers back in Nate.

I feel like saying, okay, just remember your place, bud. All three of y'all are hilarious, though. Thanks for a great podcast. That's...

I didn't think y'all would read my comment like that, but I, yeah, this, I mean, Derek's my favorite. My brother's name is Derek, spelled exactly like you. And he, Derek gets it. You know what I mean? I think it's true. You come in, you, I'm first looking at you. You dressed much better now. You got a haircut. I mean, talk about going to his head. And he does. He wants to read the whole show now.

I mean, I'm slowly getting out of this. Welcome to bait land. I want to offer you an apology, Nate, for the way I've treated you on this show. It's been very rough. That is right. People are saying it, so I apologize. Yeah. I'm glad they see it. Maybe get to it. He always yells at me like I'm the problem. That's right. And we're starting to see a little bit, am I the problem? Yeah.

Michael Farah. I mean, Derek, we might read that again. I want to start. That's where the new hello, folks, is just me reading his comment. It's a great joke in the first line. Yeah. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like britches is getting a little too big for his brines. That's well done. That was, yeah. I said brains. I messed it up out the gate. Michael Farah. Fun fact, Go Set a Watchman was written by Harper Lee before...

before To Kill a Mockingbird, but published way later. Go set a watchman. You don't know everything, Aaron. How was I supposed to know that? You're the smartest person. Go set a watchman. Doesn't seem like a good name.

well it didn't go well it did kill a mockingbird did it bomb yeah the book did yeah yeah because the name's not to kill a mockingbird was a prequel i guess to this yeah to kill a mockingbird interesting a great name ghost said a watchman i don't know maybe it's a good book name it sounds like a book ghost said a watchman i'm not reading that uh i would say that first have you you know ghost said a watchman i'm not reading that well i didn't say it was a book sounds like a book uh

Christopher Scroggins. Nate said there's cats in New York bodegas about five times. I wonder if he realizes there's a correlation to keep rats out. Yeah, I did. It doesn't... I mean, they act like that's normal, that you're going, you know what? The Kroger here, they don't have cats running around to keep the rats out. There's... I do know that that's why they do it, but...

I mean, it's just kind of like, it's not like it's like, yeah, yeah. So cats can lay on the food. Right. There's probably other ways. You're in New York City. You're not in, you know, just the desert somewhere trying to survive. Lee Kelly, it's definitely time that Burrito brought out some merch. I would happy buy a hello folks t-shirt.

Lee, I bet he's getting them printed right now. So you're in luck. Lee-er. I'll have it. Torino Shanta. They always make fun of Barnyard for being an old man. But when Nate starts ranting and his pure 70-year-old grandfather getting worked up about technology, not working, and tipping the youths. Thank you, Torin. Yeah.

Did you say Torino? Torin. Maybe I said Torino. Totino's. Totino's Shanta. Yeah, I do get... I have no problem tipping the youth. I have a problem if... I've actually talked to my neighbor about it. I'm fine with tipping the youth. I think it's good. But if you go into a business and you do all the work

There's a point that you got to, you're like, come on, man. Like, you know, I'd rather just the kids sit outside and ask me for money for college. That would make me feel better. You know, hey, I know you're going to go make up all your own food in there, but can I have $10 for college? Yeah. Undergrad? Post-grad? Yeah, undergrad, post-grad. Bachelor?

undergrad early grad Barfee man 362 guys please try and get Nate's dad on the podcast and talk about magic I'm an amateur magician and would love to see would love to hear some of the stories he has to share from his experience performing cheers for the episode much love well Barfee man 362 if you know where my dad's at I'd love to meet him someday all right Barfee man 362 you are in luck

Because today's episode is about magic and my dad is here. Dad. So he's here. So we did it. Barfing Man. Are you sure? I don't know if he's here. Yeah. Everybody. Yeah. I won. From Harper. Oh, that's Harper. Harper gave you that. Oh, that's for the Harry Potter. Harry Potter.

Yes. All right, everybody. This is my dad. Hi. Steven Bargetzi. You know what someone said? What was the comment I was going to talk about? When he said the kid... Oh, no. We were talking about you just let the kid cry out. Yeah. And that you don't do. That was when I played basketball when I was 10 years old or 11. You got to let this go. And...

I hurt my thumb in the game, and I have to go sit down. I can't dribble. The ball can't touch my left hand. My thumb hurts so bad. And my dad yelled at me to get back in the game. I got back in the game, and I just can't dribble.

It's just not working. And then I have to go back out. You had two hands. That's what I was telling you. Well, but then they were mad at me. Dad was mad at me. And we go to the hospital with thumbs broke. Thumbs broke. And he was never happier. I never seen a kid so happy when they said, yep, it's broke. And he just go with me like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I felt horrible. He thought I was just...

Well, the good thing is we have a, my daughter's son, Caleb, uh, last year playing basketball, twisters his ankle. Same thing. I go walk it off, but he walk it off and he played the whole second half and then go to the hospital. Yep. It's broke. You should have stayed off of it. Gosh. Oh man. My dad's dad still hasn't learned. He still makes even the grandkids get out there. We all get it. Uh,

All right. Thanks for coming on. This is everybody always asks, this is show them the your IBM. Dad is the president of IBM International Brotherhood of Magicians. We're very proud of him. Did you do it for one year? Yep. Right. And I got 2020.

So it's not the best year to become president, I guess. It's to be the most memorable. Yeah. Who was that guy? I'll be a trivia question. Yeah. Who was the president that didn't go around and see everybody like you're supposed to? Yeah, that was him. Is that one of the roles to visit? Yeah. Yeah. I was supposed to. I've already had four countries already that had postponed. And I've had to do like Zoom calls. I've been a part of it.

but I'm supposed to be there to give things out and awards and stuff like that. But very much so I have to go to England. That's, that's almost, I have to, I was Canada and stuff and invited to Australia and all this places. I didn't get to go. Uh, I don't, I didn't, I kind of go, I didn't have to go and, uh, which is not bad, but also it would have been nice to be a part of it. But they want you to do another year.

I don't want to do another year. Even though I'm not traveling, it's still a lot of work to be the president. It's a lot more than I ever thought. There's something every day, some little problem that you've got to handle. Who would ever think? We have about 15,000 members in 88 different countries. What does it tell people to know what it is? Because people won't listen to this.

I mean, it's the main, it's the biggest. Yeah, it's the largest. There's several magic societies, I guess, in the world and stuff. But the International Brotherhood of Magicians was really one of the first organized way back in 1922. Some magicians said, you know, we ought to get together and talk about this stuff. But, you know, in the very beginning of magic, if you were a magician, you died with your secrets.

You didn't want anybody to know. And it would be in your will to burn all your books and all your notes and stuff like that. Like when Houdini? Yeah, yeah. Houdini and Blackstone, they hated each other. And they would hire each other's assistants, pay them a lot of money just to tell them how they were doing their stuff. That's like the movie. Mm-hmm.

What's that movie? Prestige. Prestige. Yeah, yeah, yes. That's very kind of true. That part of it is true, how they stole things from each other and stuff. Because it wasn't shared like it was. And even when I was little, it wasn't. When I was young, getting into magic, it wasn't. You had to know a magician. Yeah. And even if you had the books, you couldn't understand all of them. I mean, some of them are written in kind of a code-like, so you would have to have somebody go, well, that's what this is. But not now. Now the internet is...

And you get, everybody just wants to share everything. They want to show you out there. Because now it's probably art to go in, here's how I did it. But I mean, there's some people that have, you know, I mean, on that show, what is it? The Penn and Teller where they have to guess how the trick. I mean, there's been people that they can't guess, right? Yeah, a lot of people. A lot of people. Yeah, yeah. Is there anybody that has any trick that they just don't tell them how it's done? Is there any?

Well, they get on that show. You have to tell them because then they can't. How do they know that they didn't guess it right? Yeah. So, and there had been, there was a magician I knew of that refused to tell them. And then they wouldn't, they wasn't going to.

let him on so finally at the end he had to go on and tell them and uh i mean but i don't think they would run around and tell yeah yeah that show's made tell the now that show's made for magicians and they're they you know my hat's off to them for giving people spotlights and yeah i give them a chance to get on the show they make you look good no matter what they're going to say good things you're going to have good video yeah all the stuff that you need in today's world just saying you was on pen and dollar yeah

Do you ever see tricks that you have no idea? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I love that feeling of not knowing every trick that there is out there. I get fooled all the time. When I was young and when Nathan was even young, unfortunately, probably didn't buy him as much stuff because I tried to buy every trick I didn't know. I bought tricks just to find out how they were worked.

And that's definitely for any young magicians out there. It's not what you want to do. You know, if it's not now, if it's not something I'm really want to do that, I think that I could do and do something with, I just assume, you know, I might like to know, but I don't have to seek it so bad that I go out and buy it just so now I can find the secret out. What does that mean to buy it?

You buy the rights to do these tricks. And they show you how it's done. Yes. Yeah. And then you can buy the book or you can buy the pamphlets. You can just actually just buy the tricks sometimes and stuff. But in this world, everything's changed now because of the thing. Like, you know, we had certain tricks and we called it by a certain name because that's what it is if you bought the secret. But now in real life, you can't call it. You can't say that.

Because then somebody's out in the audience going to Google that and go, oh, here's what you're doing. So now you have to make up some weird name because you wouldn't dare say to your live what the actual really, where they might find the answer to that secret. But I will say this, and this is, even as being the president of the International Brotherhood of Magicians,

COVID and all this stuff has been not, it started off great. Magicians just started meeting via Zoom and teaching each other and doing lectures. And if you're a member of our society, you can go to the internationalbrotherhoodofmagicians.org and go to that, magicians.org and go to our website. You can see 20 lectures. I'm one of them where we talk about what we were doing. We were trying to get not so many tricks done,

as why you do what you do or whatever. But what's happening is it's exploded. And now everybody's getting on there, giving away magic.

And we got people giving magic away that's not their tricks. And they're going, well, here's how he does this. And you know, you bought that just because I bought it from somebody. I don't have the right to explain it to the world, his trick. Unless it's mine. Because then no one's going to buy that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're crushing that guy's. That's right. That's right. How he makes anything. Because I mean, a lot of people make money selling these. Like that's how a lot of magicians do it.

make money, right? Yeah. Uh, with the magic conventions and seminars and things like that. This is one thing when I was first getting involved in going to conventions and hanging around with a lot of other magicians, I thought they were all David Copperfields and Lance Burtons. And, and I thought these guys are all great and they know everything. Nah, I'm sorry to say, but about 80% of our memberships are just hobbyists and they're just people, uh,

Kind of like Brian's comedy. But it's just like, I'm sorry. I just had to throw that in there. It wouldn't be right. Thank you. He dabbled in it. I woke Aaron up. But sorry, Brian. I'm just kidding. Brian never knows when I'm kidding him. I made a joke about his shirt one time. It freaked him out. You weren't kidding about that. No, I was. I promise you. I was 1,000% joking.

Because Brian and Dad have done shows without me. Like, yeah. Well, if we're all doing one together, but then y'all have done them separately, I haven't been there. I like to hire Brian. Brian's great. Kramer and Morty Seinfeld going to business together. Yeah, thank you. So raincoat. Yeah.

Yeah. Now you made me forget what we were talking about there, Brian, because I am. I made you forget. You slammed me and then I made you. Okay. I'm sorry. No, but most of our members are hobbyists. Yeah. And they just love magic. They love the, there's, there's all kinds of people interested in, in magic. There's people that like the history of it. People that'll collect books, people that collect old tricks. And,

And that just got this, I got this prop that was made, you know, in the 1800s and it still works and all of this stuff. And they got their own clubs and those people and they like to come. And we go and we have conventions and we teach and talk about the,

This is how you do it, and this is what it is. And so those people... I've made a good living off people buying my tricks. And I would say... I hate to say, but a lot of part of them will probably never do it. They just like to buy it. It's like when they come to see you, they want a t-shirt. They want something from you. So they went and seen you, Lex, or be part of it. They go, I'll buy his trick. Yeah. I would never...

dare try to follow him on a show. I mean, you're hard for anybody to follow. But the only time I still got burned, we did a prison show two straight days. You went the first day with Jason. Not some prison show that I... No, different. This is a great story. Totally different one. They go do it. He and Jason go the first day. Jason's another magician that he mentors. And I don't know how many people was there because I wasn't, but it was... Yeah, it was packed.

Well, you did so well that the next day, Jason took me and you couldn't make it. And they all thought we had to move to the overflow gym. And there was almost a riot because there were so many people there to see you. But it was me. Yeah.

I'm just in there with gang members who are upset because I'm not pulling a quarter out of their ear. It was mainly I have a trick where a snake jumps out and it just scared the bejesus out of this guy. And so they all wanted me. What happened is this happens in high school anywhere I go.

If I go to high school and do four shows, by the second, third, and fourth shows, you can't get anybody in the gym. They're all cutting classes and coming in there and going because they've heard. So that's what happened at the prison. They kind of, eh, magic show. Eh, we don't know. We don't know. And so that group came. And we were in not the overflow. We was in a pretty good-sized room. But we had a ball, and they were great. And the guy I picked on was awesome. And then...

So I guess the next day they thought I was coming back. So they told the entire person, everybody was going, you got to go see this guy. He's unbelievable. And then it's Brian. Hello, folks. It did not go well. Yeah. Well, they got me started in doing the USO kind of Armed Forces Entertainment. And I kind of think, I always thought,

Them and Prisons are the best two shows to kind of do. I mean, because these guys appreciate you so much and they're just ready to go. So it's really a shame you couldn't do well in that atmosphere, Brian. I would have thought. Well, it's hard to get over the disappointment of you not being there. I mean, that's got to be. This guy's going to make all this stuff up here. I had a bunch of dating jokes and they weren't dating much at the time. You guys on match? Yeah.

Let's read some of this is the past. Did you know the earliest known trick? Yep. Apparently on the wall, in the pyramid wall, there's what looks like guys are doing something that they claim is the cups and balls.

picture. I don't agree with that. I think it's pull my finger. I'm sure that had to happen in some cave somewhere way before this. But they say it's the, what I've heard is recorded. I mean, the oldest back that they can find where it looks like they were maybe doing some type of magic or something like that. Where it's sleight of hand. Yeah. The cup and ball trick is the... Yeah. Yeah.

the where that's for you know who they don't know i mean does everybody know do you know what the cup and ball trick is i used to have a cup and ball set oh man when i was younger and i learned all the tricks you know and it was a lot of fun yeah wow wow are they plastic or real they're metal cups and the balls were like felt yeah yeah that that's easy yeah that's good most kids the first ones are the little

three different color cups and stuff for you to jump in with the metal. And I'm impressed. That was the real deal. You were going to be it. Now look at you.

But cup and ball is kind of like a passage, a rite of passage thing. I think as a magician, if you're going to learn sleight of hand, that's one of the tricks that you have to kind of master or at least play and spend time with because it has so many different sleights and so many. I mean, it's what makes magic magic. It's misdirection. It makes you look the wrong place. It's getting you to go with the tension. It has a surprise ending. I mean, you can just do so many things with it.

I personally, just in trying to do it, I now just do the cup and ball. So I've knocked it all the way down. Just the fastest, what can I do? Because I tend to make all my tricks last really long and talk. So I went from three cups. Now I'm only using one and basically doing the same thing. There's the three, but I'm just doing it with the one cup. But I still have all the surprise endings. Did you buy from this guy?

From, not from. Didi, Egyptian magician 5,000 years ago. No. Stephen Bargatze on line one. That is the only thing that I halfway collect. I have probably about 15 sets of cups and balls. They go back pretty far. And the stuff that like some. They have a silver work one. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's an old. Yeah. I've got a wood. I've got some really neat ones and stuff and sets like that though.

That's really kind of cool. All right. So how long have magicians been around? There are examples of magicians in the Bible, in both the Old and New Testament. In the Book of Exodus, God brought plagues on the Egyptian people, but the Egyptian magicians were matching many of the plagues. In one example, Moses and Aaron went to meet with Pharaoh. As the Lord commanded, Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh, and it became a snake. And then Pharaoh summoned his wise men and sorcerers and the Egyptian magicians, and they also...

did throw their staff down and it became a snake. But Aaron's staff swallowed up their staffs. Yeah, much better trick. Yeah. Yeah, he wins. He would have won the contest. What do you think that is? You know what? That's a great question because in somewhat, I think there's difference in magicians and sorcery and demonic and that kind of level. I believe that stuff like that can happen. And so...

I think that's probably exactly what had happened. But I also know I could do that trick. I could turn. That staff right there? Go ahead. No. Do it. I'd have to have a snake. Because I actually played around with the ones with the little garter snake. And you've seen the trick with the canes, where the magician comes out with the spinning cane. It's a very popular trick you can get in with a disappearing cane or an appearing cane. But if you had a disappearing cane, you could load a snake in there.

very easily and plug up the top where it's not going to come out. And then do you just do the trick? The snake's going to fall out. And now you've turned that into a, I think you can, there's some people up in the mountain somewhere that I could convince them that I just did that. They just go, wow, that he did it. But now to make, if they have a snake that eats mine, I'm in the wrong church. Yeah.

And then the book of Acts, Simon the sorcerer became a Christian and then later asked the apostles if he could buy their tricks so he could lay hands on people and give them the Holy Spirit. Apostle Peter replied, may your money perish with you because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money. You have no part or share in this ministry because your heart is not right with God. Yeah. Again, Stephen, would you? All right. Well, my thing on this is the word sorcerer.

And I've heard different stories. I heard that when King James, it was always, it was sorcerers. Because it even tells you to beware of sorcerers. And this guy was looking for the power that came through the Holy Spirit. So he was just wanting to be something that he was not. And he thought, is this maybe a magic trick? I don't know what he thought. But King James, what I heard, was fooled by the cup and ball thing.

And so when they were having the Bible translated, he thought that, because at the end on almost all cups and balls, you have a big surprise ending in it, or a bigger ball, something that can't be, almost impossible to be in the cup.

And so somebody told King James or something that he thinks that the guy put him under a spell, he fell asleep, and then woke up and that was in there. It's like something weird happened. That's King James' version? Yeah. No, but this is what I heard the story was. Come on. It's not. But apparently he said- That's pretty good. All right, thank you. Even magicians are sorcerers.

So he actually potentially put the word sorcerer, magician in the King James Version. But it's really not the King James. It's really a sorcerer is what they were talking about. And it's someone that does potions and drugs and can do that kind of stuff and mess with people. And those are the ones we'd be aware of. The very first sleight of hand guys, they were called jesters.

And they were also called Fool for Christ. So they would actually work. They would actually go out and talk to kids and people and say, what these guys are doing is not real magic. They don't have to be afraid of them. They're using sleight of hand. And then they would produce and do the same tricks. And then show them that it was sleight of hand, that they had no powers. So that's the big difference is when you think it's real.

Do you ever get accused of stuff? All the time. Yeah, yeah. I remember one of my favorite stories is this. I taught a class to guys who were doing, they were children pastors. So I taught them some tricks they can do in children's churches and some example things. And one of them did it and his church freaked out. It was up in Portland, Tennessee.

And they told him, we don't need you anymore. And they were getting rid of him because he did magic. And so he calls and he has a month left in church. He hires me.

So it's kind of like, he don't care. So he goes, they don't like magic. So that's it. He doesn't tell me until I get there. And he goes, they let you know they fired me because I did a magic trick. I go, I'm fixing to do a whole hour. And he goes, well, it's these three ladies right there. And they were lady and they had notepads and they had everything. They were ready for me.

And so I kind of told that story about that. It's beware of sorcerers, not magicians. The real word would get pharmaceutical from pharmacy. You should beware of Walgreens before you should meet. And, and then I talked about it and we had a good time and some kids came forward and everything was great. But afterwards, this lady, she came and got me and she was, I remember she was a bigger lady and she had orange hair and,

And so she comes rolling up there and she had this hat and she, and I don't know the verse offhand, but she read the verse, don't practice deception. And she said, you are practicing deception. And that's from the devil. And God spoke to me and I said, well, can I ask you a question? Do you dye your hair?

And that was it. She got really, really mad and turned around and left. And I just thought that was the greatest answer. Thank you, Lord, for that. That I was able to come up with that. Wow. And he got fired anyway. So it all worked out well. That's crazy. Another word I kept reading was conjurer.

Yeah. Is that a word that y'all use? Some do in their characters or something like that. Somebody that makes, again, you're trying to portray. Yeah. There was a, do you, I've heard, remember Doug Henning? Yeah. When you were little, he was a guy that I really looked up to. He got into this so much that he thought, he looked for the real magic in the world. And he thought that he was trying to, he wanted to take it a step farther and get into the world of magic.

you know, you step over and I would never want to go into or anything like that. And it really messed him up. Yeah. Wow. Is that a common thing for people to do that? Kind of get caught up in that?

It may be for some, but not the many guys I know of. But a lot of them betray it, and they want you to feel that way. They want you to think. You got to think, if I'm going to read your mind, I want you to think that it's real. Yeah. I want you to think, well, how in the world can he do that? Right. And then they probably think it's real. Yeah, yeah. If they can convince you that it's real, then they've convinced themselves that it's real. Yeah. Yeah. And I used to do tricks. When I started working in...

and doing a lot of things like that where you just met a lot of different people. I used to get people come up afterwards and go, oh, you're great. You're really great. I've lost my ring. Can you tell me where it is?

You know, or we can't, I've even had somebody ask me, my sister's been missing. Do you think you could help find, what? I can find your card, yes. But I can't find your sister. This is not, I mean, so it's what the people perceive and there's people that really want to believe really, really bad. But I honestly think most magicians, if you're doing a trick,

you know it's not real yeah you know what you're doing and so you're just but you're just well because that should be enough that should be enough for you that you can make this person not know what you're doing that's right because it's such a small area you're not telling them to look way over here it's this tiny area yeah and they can trick you real quick we'll do one yeah to aaron

And this one didn't matter. No, Aaron's a secret genius, so be careful. I know that. Notre Dame. So that was really good. All right, I'll go slower. All right. You mix them up. Okay. Yeah, whatever. And he's going to do one of those because he's Catholic. They know how to shuffle. That's right. Give it to Brian the Baptist, and they would have been everywhere. But what happens is...

how people think stuff happens first of all they think well the cards are all set up or whatever like this is and then there's only way you could do a trick like this is he has to be in and on you're not in or nothing no like what i picked you no no i don't even really know who you are that much in this group and uh but so uh i let you shuffle okay so that takes away one of the areas so i like as a magician i like to take away what people are thinking

So they think, well, he must have been an owner. So we know it's not. Then I let them shuffle. Just slide a card out. Don't take it all the way out. Just leave it. Yeah, that's fine. And the reason why I like this is because most people would have grabbed that card, right? Right. Because it's easy to grab. Yes, because it's easy to grab and stuff like that. If you're listening at home, Aaron did not grab that card. No, no, he did not. But maybe I even wanted you to take this one. Right.

So if you want, we can put you back and grab another one. I mean, should I? I would, but you don't have to. And I kind of want to commit to that card in the middle. Yeah, see, that's all psychic. See, I already got you convinced that now you should stick with the first one. Because I'll be honest, I saw the one that was more, and I was like, well, that, I don't, you know, maybe I thought more about it than I should have. I like that one. You're going to regret it. Yeah.

Okay, all right. So pull it back and get another one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, why not? All right. Let's do this one then. No, come on. Now you're going to the way obvious one. Now come on. You're so easy to manipulate. It's like...

First of all, I would have never done that. I would have never put that back and went for another one and stuff. It just shows you how easy I see. First of all, because you're just trying to be polite. There's no reason to be polite to a magician. You want to be courteous, but you should have stuck with the first one. But now you change your mind. Now, no matter what happens, he's going to go, God, I wish I would have stuck with the first one. You go on and slide it out.

And you can show them or if you want the camera or whatever. Don't let me see it. I promise you, I'm not looking for the guy's hand. Put it back wherever you want and shuffle again. Anywhere in the deck? Anywhere in the deck. See, now that's another thing because a lot of people say, you know, what happens is when magicians get a card back, they have to control the card. They do these little fancy shuffles and they make sure the card is right where they are. And so we've eliminated that.

This is the kind of magic that I like, that we would have taken a card and do it. As a matter of fact, that's the first card that you was going to take. I'm pretty sure. And the big thing is, you don't know. I need these cards. This is a new deck. I should have took the advertising cards out or whatever. But you don't know. I don't know. Oh, you stomped him, Aaron. You stomped him. You did. You did.

I took out too many cards. All right. How do you want me to find this? Just to cut a card? Cut? Yeah, that sounds good. There's one card. Holly, get that. We'll call you up. He just launched the card across the table. From out of the middle of the deck. From out of the. Yeah. I had no idea. Do you want me to show it? Yeah, why not? I mean. It was my card. It's a three of spades. Three of spades. That is unbelievable.

Without...

I don't know. We'll post this clip, right? We'll post the clip because some people are listening and can't watch. So we'll post the clip. So just go to NateLand social media and you'll be able to see that clip. That's crazy. See the trick. Yeah, it's great. I mean, that's what we used to buy Dad every Christmas. Every birthday. Every anything. It was a deck of cards. It was our tie.

That's right. Like a typical tie you'd buy your dad. Yeah. That was our tie. It was just cards. You could always buy a deck.

You go through a lot of deck of cards. Because, especially in Tennessee, it's so humid that if I were to do a show outside or something. I like to do, I like close-up magic. That's where I got started. But, of course, you got to make money doing the bigger stuff. And so I got into the bigger things. But I still love, my heart is still there. And if you've ever seen me perform, I pick on people and I kind of...

get on them and stuff. I need to know their personality before I get them up on stage. So I always walk around and...

meet people and talk to them and show them a card trick so I can see what kind of a person they are and I even do that when I open up for Nate but now it's going to get harder people are going to start I want to go to people's cars no no but when people start when they know I'm going to be there yeah you've changed the game it was so much better when I could just walk up and say hey who's a Nate fan if I talk to him and then go hey I'm his dad and then they just they go wow really and

They have no idea I'm on the show. Yeah. It's before. And I love that moment. But yeah, if I go out with you, it'll ruin that. Well, you won't be able to go. I mean, did you have it like towards the, you know, when you would, because you'd have to pick someone.

To bring him on stage now, I mean, people could guess. They see you. They're going to be like, oh, I bet that's his dad. Yeah. I think I can hear him talking now. Yeah. I mean, towards the end, they were going, because we were going, that's his dad. His dad's walking around. But that doesn't mean that they know I'm on the show. Yeah. Because I'm not dressed. I'm kind of a little like Aaron, a little slobby and stuff with his little Walmart shirt. That's really great and stuff.

I heard you're engaged, right? I am. Yeah, yeah. She got you that shirt. I can tell. She doesn't want women looking at him. I got a pack of them. You know who used to buy a pack of shirts at Walmart? Dan Soder. Dan Soder would go. We were on the road once, and we go into a Walmart, and he just grabs a stack of jeans and then just buys them, and he goes, oh, I'm good now. And he would just buy a whole stack of jeans like an old man.

And I was like, what are you, you don't buy something? He goes, no, these are good. You just buy a pack of these. Wow. Like jeans. Yeah. Crazy. We looked up some of the famous magicians of, the earliest magician to pull a rabbit out of a hat was Louis Comte. Is that it? Yeah. I think so. I know the whole story behind that. It's really, really good. It was, yeah.

He came into some small town. And so like he does, you go back then where what happened, they would go to a dinner club or somebody big in the town would have them over and they would do one parlor trick and try to talk to everybody in the common.

And there was like a tabloid paper that was out in his advertising. And right above him was an article that said some lady gave birth to a rabbit. And it was just like, you know, just like the tabloids today. And he just thought that was really funny.

So he produced the rabbit out of his hat that night just to be a joke about the lady having the rabbit. And it became popular and then it just caught on. He just did it at a show. He just did it at a show one time just because of that and the news. And that's what started the whole thing. Yeah. Wow. And that's the most famous thing from magicians. That and sawing a woman in the hip. I get that. People ask me that, can you pull a rabbit out of a hat? Yeah. Yeah.

I always say, nope, the rabbit pee's in my hat. And those hats are about 500 bucks now. A rabbit is still $8. I'm not doing it. Eugene Robert Houdini. Yeah. Houdini got his name from there. Oh, wow. It was a French watch.

Maker, magician, illusionist, wildly recognizes the father of the modern style of magic. In the 1800s, he transformed magic from a pastime for the lower classes, seen at fairs to an entertainment for the wealthy, which he offered in a theater opened in Paris, a legacy preserved by the tradition of modern magicians to perform in tales.

So he was the first. And I hope I'm getting this right. All the magicians don't kill me if I didn't. But there is his cape is handed down who was supposed to be

the best magician in the world at the time. And, and so it was handed down to certain people and the Lance Burton has it now from Las Vegas. A lot of people might think Blaine or somebody else really good, but it was, I mean, but you had, there's a certain style of magic you needed to do to be, I mean, the,

I think Blaine is one of the best, if not the best public guy out there right now. David Blaine? David Blaine. He's just insane. David Tell had a funny joke about him because he just does stuff where...

It's like he just did one where he held on to balloons. Like he's doing, you know, it's like, you want to see how long I can sleep on your couch for two months? Like it's like a very, it's not a magic trick. It's just, he just, that's all, that's all his tricks are just kind of like something like that. But yeah, he's, yeah, everybody likes him. Yeah, I do. I think he's good for magic. Move your mic a little bit. I think he, I mean, he does, yeah.

He makes my job easier and gets more people working. But to actually know what he's doing and some of the stuff that he does when he does his tricks in a live show, it's pretty amazing. Well, that's like comedy in the same way where we, it's the same with the magic. Yeah.

Anybody can do a trick or anybody can tell five minutes of jokes. It's to do a show. Right. Could they do their own show? Right. If you go watch David Blaine for an hour, is it going to be a great show? And it's a great show. And it's a great show. And that's what a lot of people thought he couldn't do. When he first did his first special,

Actually, I mean, the magicians, a lot of them didn't like him at all because he literally, you can go to any magic shop and do almost everything he did in that special for under 50 bucks. Yeah. I mean, buy the sequels to every trick. Yeah. Because he was just doing slight, but it was just the way he did it. He changed everything. He took the camera off the magician and put it on people.

And it got reactions, so that caught on. But then he learned, and by the second, third, and fourth special, he's a great magician. He's learned from the best. I think he does the trick that kills me is that he comes out and he has somebody show his mouth shut. I mean, he's really doing it. He shows his mouth shut.

Has a card selected sign, sets it down, and then he cuts that open and out comes his mouth at that signed card. I mean, that's insane. Yeah, that's great. That's insane. Yeah, he's just willing to go. Yes, yes, yes, yeah. Which would have been some of these guys, Houdini and some of these guys, Houdini would have loved David Blaine, I think. Yeah. And Chris Angel and those guys, they would have...

I've been very impressed. I think today, if these guys went and saw the shows that was happening and what Copperfield's doing and stuff, they'd be blown away. Yeah. They would not have a clue how they did any of this stuff. Yeah. Well, because Houdini was, well, because there's a mix of guys being like David Blaine where it's like you're a magician, but it's like he's also can be underwater for. It's like a scape artist, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's both things. It's like he's truly, and probably back then,

That's what you would have done. I mean, now magic is like everything. Everything's so much wider. So you can just specifically be, I only do these sleight of hand. All right. You know, Dave Copperfield, he does these gigantic tricks versus, does he do any sleight of hand? Like Copperfield. Yeah. He can. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't. Yeah. But a lot of it's a big show. The bigger show. Yeah. Right. But he can do sleight of hand. I've seen him do it and he does a decent job at it.

I mean, is everybody can do sleight of hand? No, most. I think that it's...

It used to be really separated. Now the sleight of hand is more popular. If you go to Europe, all the big shows now are close-up shows where you go and it's 50 to 110 at the most people. And they're all sitting around the table. And I mean, you couldn't do that 20 years ago. Yeah. But now people will accept that stuff. Yeah.

uh yeah like they have the restaurant what's the rest in that house of cards yeah yeah the house of cards here in national tennessee yeah you see close-up magic and and the parlor the kind of magic i do uh which is not the big stage i don't have to hire girls and big boxes and stuff but big enough to be seen yeah and uh you could do on stage yeah you do yeah you do it on our stage yeah people can see it yeah uh

But I think Houdini and Blaine were probably a lot alike. Yeah. Houdini had a whole magic show that he did before he started doing the escapes. And then he would do the upside down straight jacket to get everybody's attention in that town. Then the one to come out and see him do his magic show. And he was called the King of Cards. And what he did, the hiding the cards in his hand and doing all of them. So he did. Did you ever meet someone that saw him?

uh yeah i think uh i met a guy named di bernie that that once he has a trick out and i used to do it and uh it's called the trick that fooled houdini oh yeah yeah i can show you that i know yeah yeah i want to see the trick that fooled houdini yeah because and so this guy saw houdini he did a trick for him so he's an older guy so i mean and grab a card um

And this would normally be signed or something so you know it's different. So he puts it into the deck and without doing anything, it just comes right back to the top. And it would be, but that was the trick. And all the magicians out there, anybody watching, they know exactly what I did. But I did it the same way that this guy did, the full Houdini. Mm-hmm.

And Houdini did just what every magician does today when they get fooled by a guy. Like if I'm sitting there and some kid comes up to me, and today the young kids are amazing. If they show me a trick that just blows me away, I do exactly what Houdini did in all of them. I go, that is fantastic. I love it. Come over here and show this guy. He wants to see it.

And I'm only doing it because I want to see it again from a different angle. And I might have him show 20 people. No, you better show this guy. I want to make sure he knows until I figure it out. And that was a trick that Houdini did that. And he saw it like 10 times in a row and just walked away angry. He had no idea what the guy was doing. And it was that guy? Guy Vernon. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wow. I met him in the 80s and he was probably...

80 then. Yeah. When I, when I met him. Did he say anything like, was Houdini a good guy? No, he didn't. I don't, I didn't get to talk to him about that, but, uh, he wasn't liked. Magicians didn't like each other back then. Yeah. Uh, cause there was a really hard competition. I don't think it's so, I think they still have problems. I think, you know, probably some of the Vegas guys don't get along that good. Uh, but, uh,

The most I'm – I think the better you are. Just like I think in comedy, when you're really good, you don't really worry about – I'm not worried about another guy that's good. I'm not intimidated. I think there could be two good comedians and there could be two good magicians. I don't need to worry. Well, it would probably be the same way I always say with comedy. Comedy, all you can hope for is to be in the conversation of one of the best ever. Yeah. No one can be the best ever because there's –

It's too subjective. It's too, you know, someone could like this and they don't like this. Magic is probably the same way. You just want to be in the conversation. Right. Yeah, and then if they get to that high level

The high level that those guys were all at. I mean, yeah. Yeah. They're not worried. My thing is, is now my legacy is my name. This chain has every president of the International Brotherhood's name engraved on each one. And my name, I'll be somewhere on the shoulder or something. And so, I mean, so for me, yeah, I've been very blessed. And this is...

high or whatever I cared or I need to go or something like that. Well, you're in the history of magic. Yes, I am. I think that's where you want to be, in the history of whatever your thing is. If you can get in the history of it, that's crazy. That's not an easy thing to do. I mean, this says Houdini was president of the Society of American Magicians. Yeah, he was a member of the International Brotherhood of Magicians, which is what this is. And he wanted some changes and stuff and

It goes back again. People didn't like him because he was the big name out there. So he was my competition. So they didn't let him get his way and stuff. So he goes, well, I'll just start my own. So they broke off and he started the Society of American Magicians, which I'm also a member of. And it's mostly only in America.

We're international, so that's why we're so much bigger than they are. But they do have some members and others now, but mostly they're just in the United States. So they kind of started, and I'm not sure the year they started, but Houdini was their first president, and that's the cool thing that they get to brag about, that he did it and we kicked him out. We didn't want him. We passed up on Houdini. Yeah.

So he just went and got his own. I'll start my own society. Wow. Like a church. Yes. Yes. What about him dying? So that's the big, that's always the big story with, you know, Houdini died of a ruptured appendix in 1926. Yeah. That's the truth, but that's not the Tony Curtis version. Yeah. What's the Tony Curtis version?

Oh, is that a movie? Yeah. Then the very first movie that ever made about who Tony Curtis played Houdini and he died in the water chamber. So he drowned. And so for, it's still a very popular myth that people think today. They, I mean, for a long time, people thought, especially people my age, cause we saw the movie. So we think, yeah, he died in the chamber and stuff like that. It was, he died.

lost his couldn't hold his breath when he was doing that trick but they got him out in plenty of time they knew he was in trouble and they and they got him out and but he died like maybe 10 days after that of an appendicitis because he got punched in the stomach yeah yeah and that part is all true and he would do that and but he would allow people he could make his stomach so tight he could take a punch

And, but so some kid comes up before the show and said, I heard you could take a punch. And this kid, he goes, can I do it? And he goes, yeah. And he stands up and the kid hits him. He wasn't ready. He just threw it up and the kid just pouting right in his side and it burst his appendix. And of course he didn't know at that time what had happened, but he, but he actually went, no, no, I wasn't ready. Okay. And he let the kid guy hit him again. Okay.

I mean, that's crazy that that happened. How old was he when he died? I don't know. I think he was in his 50s. I wanted to say 52, but I'm not sure. Yeah, I think that's right. So, yeah. So, I mean, he would have, I mean, yeah, that's crazy because, I mean, he could have lived another 30 years, you know, and be born in 56, you know, which would have been, you'd probably have a lot more on it. Yeah. You'd have had a lot of stuff on him if he would have lived to then. That's pretty crazy.

That's like a David Blaine thing where he's... Right. You're doing something that's like... And I think I've seen David Blaine do that. Yeah. That he's allowed somebody... He took a punch from a professional boxer. Just let him hit him hard as he could. Crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. It's a mix. I'm not doing that. Yeah.

It's a mix of, I mean, that seems like that's the way those guys did. Those guys had to be a show. They had to be a whole show. And so on top of like, watch this trick, they would also have this weird stuff. Yeah. But it was a different world. Like the scape out of a, he would get in one of my favorite stories. He'd get in like in a milk thing with a carried milk jug metal. He would get it and they fill it with water and lock it in.

Like how big of a milk? Yeah, I mean, it's four and a half feet tall. Like just a big metal milk thing. And they would put him in it and lock it. But they would cover it up with a curtain. And Houdini, I mean, Houdini couldn't hold his breath like Blaine. He didn't hold it for five minutes, maybe five minutes. But he could get out in a minute and a half. But to get out in a minute and a half, it's not very good.

So he actually would get out and read the paper and sit back there and they would have a live band play music and people are all going, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. He's already out. He's been out and he just, it was all showman just to come out. Which today you need to get out in 30 seconds because American Got Talent is going to go on to the next thing. They're going to buzz you. But back then you drug everything out. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. That's, well for him to do,

I mean, that's funny to think that. I mean, it's been impressive for him to get out in a minute. I mean, what did they, could they, you know, it was good just to show it. Yeah, and later on, and Penn and Teller became those people that realized that sometimes magic is just as good to show it. Well, when we went to their show,

They let us walk on, we got to walk on stage and touch the box or something. Remember that? Yeah. And then you got to make the choice if you wanted to see how it worked or not. If you wanted, if you didn't want to know, close your eyes. And then they actually showed you how it worked. Which if you remember how it worked, it's exactly how it got out of the milk can. Yeah. Yeah.

So they were doing Houdini's philosophy, but kind of like, we think it's pretty cool how it works. So let us show you how it works. Those that want to know. Yeah. I mean, people always say they don't want to know. Because my line that I would say, they go, can you do magic? It's like, I can't do any magic, but I can ruin it for you. Yeah. But they're, yeah, because people always say they want to know.

I don't know. Some people say they don't. They're like, I don't want to know. I like not knowing. And some people do want to know. Some people have to know. They have to, yeah. Those are the ones that get you going, I got to know. It just drives them crazy and stuff like that. So I hope that if you... I think it's fun to know. What gets me is sometimes if somebody...

Well, they think they know and they can live with that. They can go, well, Aaron was in on it. Then they go, okay, I can go to bed now. He was in on it, even though he wasn't. But they can live with that fact of thinking that they got themselves the answer they needed to know. That's all I needed to know is that he was in on it and I'm okay and stuff. And what kills me too, I do school shows and it is true that

And sometimes, you know, I put all the my rules is all the kids have to be on one side of the gym. And I do a couple of tricks that if you're behind me, it's a different show and you're going to see how it works. And so, you know, and my guy works with me already goes and tells him, look, I mean, you can't tell the teacher, get out of here. You got to go sit over there. But he can say, if you sit here, you're going to not enjoy it near as much. And he tried, but some of them don't.

But what gets me is what's funny is that after the show, this guy will come up to me and he goes, I figured that trick out. And you want to go, did you figure it out or did you see it? There's a difference. Yeah. He just saw it at the end. Yeah. Uh, the weird. So, uh,

Houdini and then 1974, the musical The Magic Show starring Doug Henney. He was the guy that really got me. I really loved Doug Henney. And I got to meet him and went all the way to Chattanooga to meet him. Came outside and after the theater, I just stood in the alley to meet him and he was as nice as a guy. He did the newspaper trick that we're going to do on your show and stuff like that. And so...

Was it sold out like China? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When was that? When did you go? I probably saw him in 76 or eight, something like that. I went down there to see Doug Henney. Yeah. In 1980, Doris Dietrich, in her teens, become the first. And as of 2019, the only woman to do the jinxed bullet catch in her mouth, often referred to as the

Stunt that scared Houdini. It was done under test conditions at the annual International Brotherhood of Magicians convention in front of hundreds of paying attendees and the general public. It was televised worldwide and got international press in 1980. Have you met her? Yep, I have and stuff. Crazy. No, I wouldn't do that. That's like that trick with the...

and under the bags and stuff like that. There's just too many things that can go wrong. And I'm not going to, I mean, there's, I don't know the method that she used and I didn't get to see her do this. I'm sorry. They filmed it. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, Penn and Taylor did that too. They do the, they do the, by far the best version and I do not know how they do it.

And neither do 90% of the magicians in this world. Yeah. Penn and Teller has taken it to a level where even the guys that know how the original trick worked. Yeah. It's kind of like that card trick where I eliminated all the possibilities. So we know what you would have to have happen in a bullet catch. And so-

Penn and Teller eliminated everything. So you go, well, that didn't happen. That couldn't happen. He did that. He had the bullet marks. He had this done. And, and, and so there's, there's is by far the best I think that's ever been invented or anybody doing it and how they, why they do it every night. It's just, and it makes me nervous every time I've seen it. Yeah. Yeah. Do you do any tricks now or, or done something that would be considered dangerous? No. Uh, uh,

I did the straight jacket for a long time and you could hurt yourself, but I don't even do that anymore since I'm a little overweight now. I need to lose about 20 pounds and start doing that trick. But that is one of the funniest pieces I ever have. And it's called, if you look up straight jacket of death with Dick Buskett. It's a very, very funny routine. That's probably the most physical thing ever.

I actually did do the spike trick before just to do it, and then I realized I don't want to do this. This is too crazy or something like that. I work with Lady Houdini who's traveling right now. As a matter of fact, she is in Atlanta, I think. They started her first fair back with the... And she actually does the Houdini water thing in a glass thing where you watch her

Yeah, we went and saw her. Yeah, yeah. It's fantastic. And she's crazy. She's really doing it. She does not have trick. I would have trick handcuffs that if I couldn't pick them, I'd push a button and they came off. But she don't. She's really underwater, chained to the bottom so she can't get out. And she's picking the locks. And I did six shows with her. And every time I did it, I thought she was going to die. And I'm just going, I couldn't, I can't believe.

That she is doing this night after night after night. That she's going in there and doing it two times a night sometimes. Yeah. Holding her breath that long and having to escape.

But I know she has something. I think the video of her, she has passed out in there twice. But have you ever had like tricks go wrong? I mean, I know you've had like, what's an example of not a dangerous, but just something that's really went wrong. I had a trick go wrong with Nate, my son. I decided once when Nate was young to dress him up as a clown and go with me and I'm going to do this trick.

and it was called Bonzo the dog. And it's a, it's based on a famous trick for magicians called run rabbit run. And it's where this, you have a, uh, a thing about two, two feet long, two and a half feet long. It has a little wooden dog that goes in and he goes in the door house, dog house. And over here is a bone store where he gets his bones. But I also have a bag of, uh,

they were like hot dogs, sponge hot dogs, that if he does his trick right, he gets the hot dogs. So you set them down. And, uh, and so Nate, Nate's job was supposed to help me do some stuff. And he was for kindergarten. I was, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It was my kindergarten class. All right. Yeah. But he gets a little stage fright. And, uh, so he just pointing, he's not talking. So,

So he's supposed to go, dad, the dog went across. Because the trick is that every time the magician looks away, the dog would run and get a bone. And then he'd come back by the time I look back and I'd act like, oh, and the kids are all screaming. Well, it's supposed to have been Nate screaming at me, dad, the dog just went. Well, he's just pointing. He's not saying anything. So I go, I know I got to get rid of him.

So I pick him and put him up on the back of the stage. He's sitting there. But he's sitting in front of the bag that has the Spuns hot dogs in it. And now the dog's going. And then he looks. And I don't want to give away too much, but there are two dogs being involved. And my job is to get that Spun.

the second dog into where the hot dogs are really early. Yeah. But I'm playing with another dog that they're seeing. They don't know that that one's in there, but the bags turned backwards. Yeah. But now Nate is seeing for his first time in his little life, there's a, the dog's already in there. And now he decides to unmute himself. They become this wild kid going, I, the dog's there.

No, he's already there. And it's running back and forth and stuff like that. Quite embarrassing. We had kids walk out. The other kids in the kindergarten ask for their money back. This is crazy. That's great. There are tricks that you do today that they just don't work sometimes. I mean, and there's no outs. I like to have an out.

And with, you know, if I tell somebody to think of a playing card and doing it, just like, all right, Brian, let me, all right. There's one card laying on a table right now. Brian, name any card in the deck. Three of diamonds. Now, there's no, anyway, we used the three earlier.

And with the three of spades, but you said the diamond. Yeah. Okay. If that's the three of diamonds, you're going to freak out? Yes. I will freak out. Huh? I will freak out for sure. Pay attention.

That's impressive. That was an out because I laid the joker down. Yeah. But I would try to lay down the right card. Yeah. But if I don't get it, you have to have an out, a way to get out to make it look like you're right. So I made it. I did not have, I had the joker down here. Yeah. So I have to switch it for the three. But so do you. Nothing went wrong. Right. But to me, it went wrong. I didn't have the right card.

But does that make sense? So I try to do all my magic where I can have an out, where if something goes wrong, then I can still get out of it. But there's some things that you just can't, that if it goes wrong, it went wrong. I think the last show we did together, I had something go really, really wrong. And again, I think that's what makes a professional professional. Nobody knows.

And the same way with you guys, if you forget a joke or a tag or something like that, nobody knows about you. Yeah. And you're the one that's disappointed. So I think if you could do a show and you know it wasn't the best, but then people come up to you and say, that was the greatest thing. That was awesome. Then you know, you can call yourself a professional. I've got this.

They like my bad show. Yeah, then they can't tell. Some of these tricks that have gone wrong, because you have some of those in, I mean, have you heard of some of those? Yeah, I know. One of them, I thought he was talking about the big ones now. You can go look on the guys that are doing the knife stab with the spike in the bag. A good friend of mine, Martin Cox, he's dated our house a couple of times.

And he did it with a girl. Yeah. And it went so crazy. He grabs a girl's hand and he takes her hand over. So when he slammed down on the bag, those four bags, and underneath it is a big metal spike. Yeah. He actually went through her hand and into his hand. Yeah. It's the craziest thing in the world. So I... Is that just... You get sued or you get...

He should have got sued. He got lucky. And there has been some that has sued. Yeah. He did not. He was lucky because the girl, it was at a magic convention. Yeah. And she was an assistant to another magician. So she was used to it. And he got, and the spike went through the best part of her hand, which was just luck. But so it didn't damage, no nerve damage or anything like that. So she's got a great story to tell. Yeah. But she didn't sue him. But she definitely could have, and she would have won that case. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's like, why even run the risk? Yeah. You know, it's like you just, yeah. Yeah. I met a guy that once he was juggler and he, he, he juggles really sharp knives right on top of people. So he makes them lay down and he juggles right in there over their face. And he thought, he said, this is so funny. And I was going, they're going to own everything because you don't know. They might just raise their head, hand or something like that. And they do something. I don't care how good you are. Yeah. One day that's not going to work. Yeah.

And so he ended up now, he puts like a blindfold on so they won't. And he just pretends like he's doing it. And he fake drops it. And now he's got it's funny. It's a funny piece. That person thinks that you're doing it. It's way better than actually really doing it and maybe killing this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a much better show. Yeah.

Read the first, the Joseph Burris. The one's going wrong. Escape artist Joseph Burris, who was desperate to emulate his hero Houdini, died on Halloween 1990 while trying to perform a buried alive trick in California. Joseph was lying inside a see-through casket when he was lowered into a hole into the ground. A cement truck then poured its contents onto the casket, but tragedy struck when the coffin suddenly collapsed under the wet cement's weight.

Joseph, dubbed Amazing Joe, ended up being crushed to death at the scene. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. I mean, we don't have to watch. I don't want to watch. All right. Yeah. I remember that when that happened. It was on TV? No. I mean, it was just in every magazine, every magic thing that was out there. So, I mean, you don't even see it. You just see they just pour. Yeah. I don't know. That thing I was about to pull up was from Inside Edition where they did a story on it. What was his plan? Yeah.

To dig out, I mean, Houdini only did it once. Lance, I think there's been several guys that's done it. It is a very, David Blaine did it. It's a very difficult trick to do, even if it works. Yeah. Because his plan was to get out and dig his way up through the dirt. Mm-hmm.

So no matter what, even with a breathing tire or whatever you have, it's tough because you got your dick and you have to at least dig five feet through dirt. You just hope it's loose. So, I mean, the weight, yeah, it just crushed him. But his, was the weight... I mean, he died. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know. Probably not. Probably suffocated. Yeah, yeah. That's what happened. He didn't... He hadn't planned on the...

Yeah, I mean, do they even show... That's the worst imaginable death I can think of. Yeah. It's that happening. Yeah, and he did it to himself. And especially with people watching you, knowing you're there. So they could help. You know, it's not like no one can help you. Everybody can help you, but no one knows to help you. That's like a trick that you'd have to go...

I mean, is it worth it? Are people nowadays, I don't know how much this stuff is worth because everybody's seen everything with the internet. It's hard to impress people. And so if you're like, I'm going to do this, you just got some guy going, well, I bet he's doing something else. And then they don't care as much. And so they don't appreciate it as much. So why even run the risk of doing it? You know, when David Blaine did the balloon thing, which was a pretty cool show, if you like that. But then the guy helping him,

jumped 22,000 feet, whatever, just out of a plane without a parachute and landed in a net. Did you see? I mean, when I saw that, I looked that up and I went, you got to be kidding. That was 10 times better than what planes did. I mean, he went higher, jumped out of a plane, nothing on,

And lands in a big net that looked like a little square by his camera. You go, I'm going to land in that thing. Who would do that? Yeah. And why we haven't all heard about that one. Yeah. Magician swallows acid on Vietnam's Got Talent. When Vietnam's Got Talent semifinalist Trantan Phat brought out four glasses of water and one glass of acid in the 2015 show. He had no idea he was moments away from disaster.

In an act dubbed the acid test, Phat got one of the contest judges to come on stage and shuffle the glasses around, including the one containing sulfuric acid. He claimed he would use his magic to work out which glass had the dangerous substance. However, the judges looked on, he chose wrong. He sped out the acid as soon as he realized, but not before his lips had swollen up and pain had shot through him, according to reports. He was raised at the hospital and treated for second-degree burns.

And there's a guy named Jim Hines. It was a friend of mine. I don't think Jim performs. I thought he's one of the funniest guys. He would come out on a magician's magic convention. It would be the only place you would ever see him. And he would have a tuxedo and everything. And he would tell the saddest story. Like somebody broke into his truck last night and stole his whole show. So all of it popped. And everybody believed it.

But then he goes, well, luckily I've sent home and I've got slides. And so his whole show is slides. He showed one slide, him standing in front of a building. The next slide, it'd be him empty. And this was back in the 80s and 90s. But it was hilarious. He just made everything disappear, thing jumped. But he did a lecture the next day. And in his lecture,

He did this trick, that trick. He goes, this is my favorite birthday party trick. You get the birthday child up and you pour one line of ash

And then later on, I saw him do it where you get your grandpa's pills and you put them out. One of them, these are like good in Pelinis, but one of them is a kill. And these kids get the pick one. But it was all joke and things like that. So I hadn't heard about this, but when you read that, I remember I saw Jim do that in 2000. He would do the acid thing. Yeah.

Harry Blackstone did that trick 20 years ago. Yeah. It's too sheep. I saw Harry Blackstone do that trick 20 years ago in the village.

Yeah.

Blaine believed the bullet had gone through his head and that he was dead, but fortunately he survived with only a lacerated throat. You want to see it? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I want to see it. I mean, it's not bad. Yeah. It's not like he didn't, doesn't even hardly respond to it. Yeah. Right there he's going, am I dead? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

What was he trying to do? He was trying to really catch a bullet. People got to realize that every catch a bullet trick is not, there's a trick. Yeah. But he wanted to really, really do it. And you die at it because somebody gets the, something can happen before you can put the,

You know, they switched guns or somebody had the wrong kind of bullet or it's not in the right chamber. I mean, that's what goes wrong. The trick itself doesn't go wrong unless you're going to steal the bullet out. I do remember I had a dart gun that shot a little dart. And what you would do is you would trim the dart.

So when you loaded the dart in, you would shoot it. Then you would load one of those skinny ones in. And when you handed them the gun, the dart would fall back out in your hand. Mm-hmm.

And so now I knew that it worked because I had the dart in my hand. And then I would have somebody shoot at me, and I had a magnet in my shirt, and I made it. I did that for a little while. I chased that trick and stuff. But all of them are usually tricks like that. He, Blaine, wanted to, I really want to. Really do. He was trying to be like Houdini. He wanted to do, he does all of what Houdini did, and he wanted to really catch the bullet. And the only way to do that is to have that metal thing that can stop a bullet. Yeah.

Yeah. Still crazy. I wouldn't, I mean, he's crazy. Yeah. The metal thing can stop it. And it went wrong. And then it went through the back of his. It just went in his throat and hit it. Yeah. It just kind of shattered the piece that he had in his mouth. Oh, that's, it's crazy. Yeah.

All right, we're about to have to get out of here. Yeah, yeah. Apollo Robbins. I don't know what you... He's a very good friend of mine. I don't know what you have fun. Basically, he gained notoriety because he pickpocketed Jimmy Carter's Secret Service agents. And he would show them, here's your badge. And the guy would be like, give me that back. And he's like, you don't have the right to that. And the guy would then show him his badge. No, he already had that on him too. He just took everything off these guys. This right here. I mean, you feel that. It's got some weight to it. Yeah, for sure. Apollo Robbins.

I was not president at this time, but I was over in England, in Blackpool, England. We were doing a show, and we went to get the photograph made of all the performers. And the president was missing this. It was gone. And they were going, where's it at? And do it. And he goes, Apollo, I know you must have done it. And Apollo goes, well, everybody check your pocket. I'm sitting there, and I go...

Not in my pocket. Because I would know if something this big got loaded into my pocket, front pocket.

And this is, I'm telling the truth, Apollo is a great guy. And he finally had to say, Bargatze, look in your front pocket. And when I did, this big old thing was in my pocket. And I was going, what in the world? I had not a clue when or how or anything or how he did that stuff. He also, John Doernbosch is a good friend.

He was the long, a lot of people probably know him. He was on America's Got Talent, long snapper for the Eagles, and has always been a magician. Right. And we became friends when he came here, found out to do magic and stuff, and we still are really good friends to this day. So his wife, when he was getting married, his wife called and said, I want to give him something really cool and magic. What would be something that I could give him?

And so I got a hold of Apollo and asked if he would give private lessons to John because John was very interested in how to steal watches and wallets and all that stuff. I said, well, then I know the best guy. Apollo's the best in the world. I said, I know him. And we set it up. And John went and spent a week with him. That was his wedding present. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

That's how long it would take to learn all that stuff. At least. At least to get that way. Yeah. I still watch this. I remember the first watch I ever stole was off a police officer. And it was very scary. But I had a trick that I could do if they caught me. So I could go, oh, no, it's okay. It's a joke. And I would do this trick. So it was my out in case I got caught. But then eventually I got where I just didn't get caught very much. So.

So you just have to have, it just takes guts. You just got to keep doing it and doing it until you can get away with it. And I still get caught today. I mean, now I started my shows back and I usually steal the watch doing that cup trick. Yeah. But I can't touch them. So it made it a lot easier because it's awful hard to find watches. I mean, they're coming back now because of the Apple Watch. Yeah. And believe it or not, Apple Watches are the easiest to steal. Yeah.

yeah you think you'd feel it yeah you would think because the rubber yeah because it was like there are some things you got to do to keep them from feeling it and if i messed up they do feel it so i gotta i gotta be really careful yeah but uh there's a way to do it but but i think these are way easier than the uh the old ways i now if i got a choice i'll take an apple watch somebody has one that's my first choice uh all right uh we i we gotta run i gotta run and then uh

So I know we didn't get to some stuff, but I think we're, I mean, we're just do, you know, I was, it was like, this is one thing where I want to talk about is the, our magicians band and casino and counting cards and all that stuff. I think it'd be fun. I think we should just do an episode on casinos and we'll just have you come back and cause you know, all that stuff. And then,

That would be – because that would be the whole fun episode to talk about casinos and then talk about cards and all that stuff. And I'm sure people have questions for you. So we'll figure it out, come back, and do another episode with my dad.

So, but yeah, that's it. I think that's, do we have anything else? I don't think so. No, just magician.org if they want to look up the IBM. Yeah. And the mind magic of Steven with a PH. Yeah. And you can go on there and you can see some of these videos and see some stuff. Yeah, we're going to post. So we will post the, if you're listening at home and you want to see any of these videos, we'll post the tricks online.

on the Instagram Twitter you know specifically those tricks so you can just see what those tricks were and we're posting stuff with my dad that you know the straight jacket stuff and all that yeah and go to IBM magicians.org if you want to be a magician that's what you get you got to get in that world so all right thank you guys very much for listening thanks for liking rating although you know it means the world to us and you're the best so all right see you next week

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