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Am I Racist?: YES or NO With Matt Walsh

2024/9/14
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Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh play "The Yes or No Game" to determine their racism levels. Knowles starts by correctly guessing Walsh's answer about Asian drivers and women drivers, highlighting the sexism over racism. They discuss Italian's classification as POCs, with Knowles initially agreeing but later switching to no, then back to yes due to rejecting the POC category.
  • Knowles and Walsh use a board game to discuss racial issues in a humorous way.
  • Knowles correctly guesses Walsh's views on sexism versus racism.
  • The concept of "POC" is questioned and challenged.

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Poor kids are just as smart as white kids. Isn't that Biden's famous... It's a Biden quote. Yeah, that's a famous Biden quote. That's what you think of me? I don't know what you're going to say. I don't know what you're going to say. I mean, I'm going to say yes. What about all races? I'm just trying to figure out some way to get you in trouble on the show. Uh...

Am I racist, you ask? What do you take me for, some disgusting, filthy Albanian? I don't think so. But we're going to get to the bottom of that profound question on today's episode of the Yes or No Game. I'm joined by my friend, Matt Walsh. Matt? Hello. You've got this movie out. I do. Am I racist? You have a game. You have a board game, Am I Racist, to figure out

which of your friends is the most racist. It's a great game to pick up when you go to dailywire.com slash shop and get the yes or no game, the OG first pack, which has sold zillions of copies, along with the yes or no conspiracy expansion pack, along with the yes or no

politics, philosophy, and religion expansion pack. And then, when you've played the Yes or No game in all of its iterations, you can tell a bunch of racist jokes with your friends. Matt? We are, I mean...

As I'm sure you already figured out, we're blatantly ripping you off. It's even the same box. Well, the whole thing. It was just... I said to them, "Michael's got this. He's made millions of dollars, probably hundreds of millions on this game. Like, give me one. I want to do that too." Get the games now before Shapiro or someone else rips us off. Matt, it is a very busy week for you. You're launching this movie. It's in 1,500 theaters. This is a widespread national release. It's getting a ton of great buzz and everything.

I think you got all of that fair and square, but I think you're cheating at this game because I have a nice, very full martini here. And what are you drinking? This looks like a glass of ice water. That's sure vodka with just a little bit of cubed ice. Yeah, I'm ashamed that I am drinking water. You know, I'm doing Gen Z.

They don't drink. No. So I'm taking a cue from them. No, they don't drink. Just for today. They don't watch movies on flights. They raw dog. They wear long socks. I don't know. I'm a little... I guess I should support them not drinking, but I'm a little disappointed. It's like, come on, guys. You know what they do, though? They zin. There should be a challenge in this game where if you get two or three wrong, you have to just start packing full upper and lower deckies. I've never had the zins. I know you're a big zin guy. No, I don't buy it. I'm not addicted. But if people offer it to me...

Or if I pressure them to offer it to me, I'll stick them in there. I won't need that now because I'm going to get belligerently drunk. If people offer it to you, you'll stick it in there. That's what you just said. Anyway, continue. That pertains more to your first movie than to your second. You know the rules of this game? I do. We've played it a few times. I would say if it's a woman, I would say you go first. But we know the answer to that question quite well. So I'm going to go first.

And then you've got to move my martini based on how you think I would answer. Asians are worse drivers than women. I'm going to say that you would say no to that. And you, my friend, would be correct.

That's an obvious one. Can I say why I think that? Yes. Because I think that when push comes to shove, you don't want to choose, but your sexism will override your racism. Of course. It comes down to it. Truly, the sexual difference in man is far more significant than any racial differences. I'm not saying that different races and cultures aren't different, but the difference between men and women is much more distinct. Or at least it was until like five minutes ago. I'm going to say anyway. Although,

Of course, Asian women would be the most trouble in the car. What about Asian trans women? That's an interesting question. That's for another game. Yeah. Okay, you go. Italians qualify as POCs. I have to answer how you would answer? Yeah. If you're being totally honest, not just... If I'm being completely honest, yeah. They do not. I mean, actually, I would say yes. The Italians are POCs? Well, only because I don't... That's fine. Because I just reject...

The category of POC? So you're saying Englishman would be POC? Everyone is. We all have color. Even I do. A little. You have hair. But it's not. I mean, you can't see through my skin. You're not looking at my bones. So I just did this idea. Like, what's the other option besides color?

Being a person of color but to bring up like a movie like true romance for instance if you if you if you said there were There were different races their racial distinctions, right? Yeah Would you say that the Italians the children of the mezzo-giorno specifically the Sicilians and the I say the Calabrians are they a little closer to? The Africans are they a little closer to say the Nordics or are they a liminal people? Well, I would say neither

But Italians aren't black, if that's what the question is. Listen, some people have made the claim. You made that claim? Listen, I haven't, but Christopher Walken did in that movie where he said a word that I'm not allowed to say on here, nor would I want to. So my answer is no. Or no, it was yes. What am I saying? You said yes. I'm supposed to be saying... But you said yes by... I just switched my answer. Reinterpret... But you say no now. No, no, no, I do say yes. So yes, the answer is yes to what you just said. I guess he gets a point. That to me, that's...

Bush League. I kind of want to claim the POC thing because if this is the world we operate under, the racial hierarchies and stuff, I'll take whatever advantage I can get. Yeah. But like I said, everybody gets that. There's only one race, the human race. That's what I always say. Yeah. I go now. Curry powder smells good. I have a definite answer to that. What was my answer? Oh, yeah. I'm guessing for you. Yeah. Do I think you'd be right or wrong on this one? I'm going to hope that you're right.

Yes, curry powder smells good. Sometimes people who cook with a lot of curry powder do not smell good. But the curry powder itself smells good. I agree with that distinction. Yeah. You're walking the edge there. I am. You're playing a dangerous game. I've spent a fair bit of time in India. Yeah. And it's lovely. I really enjoy visiting India. But it's a distinction. I mean, when it comes to ethnic cuisine, Indian food, for my money, is the best. Yeah, yeah.

So. And that's it? Yeah. Full stop? Mm-hmm. Would you live in India? I mean, I wouldn't live anywhere that's not America. So, no. Okay. But the food's great. The food is really good. I discovered it kind of late in life. Raw milk is a form of white entitlement. What would you say? You would say no. You would say it's a form of white idiocy. Right. You walked right into it.

I did. I was sitting with sweet little Elisa when you were being eviscerated by your entire audience and the entire conservative coalition in America. And Elisa turned to me and she said, Meg, does Matt not understand that every single person who listens to his show drinks raw milk? First of all, they don't.

Maybe every single person pretends to. Likes raw milk, in theory. Like, yeah, they like the idea of it. There's no way that they all actually drink it. Yeah. It's hard to get. It's hard to get. It does taste bad. I've never tasted it. I have tasted it. It tastes like a barn. I don't even like regular. It tastes like cow. That's what's in it. Do you like fresh eggs? Um.

Yeah, we've had, I mean, we had chickens once. So, you know, I've, but, and it's fine, you know, but the chickens, like the egg comes out of the shell. So it's, you don't have to worry as much about that. But with raw milk, it's disgusting. And the only thing I knew that that was a point of controversy. I didn't, I honestly didn't realize that so many people organize their whole political identity around it. Yeah. Which is crazy to me. It's a heuristic.

It's a, it's a, to say that you are a raw milk guy conveys all of these other things because look, I'm milk agnostic. I never really drank milk even as a kid, which is why my bones are all brittle. But if I were to have a milk, I suppose I,

Now, post-COVID, I would have to say, look, they lied to us about the vaccine. They lied to us about all the crap they pump into foods and all the different chemicals and stuff. It turns the frogs gay. It has people going through puberty at age three or whatever. It does all this weird stuff. So maybe that bleeds over into the milk. Yeah, but that's pasteurization. It's not like they're pumping chemicals into it. It's just, it's heating up the milk to purify it. It's not unlike...

If you take water out of a stream, you boil it before you drink it. So that was my point. You don't do raw water? Exactly. Well, it's the same thing. It's like, that's the next thing. Let's have a raw water movement. Am I somehow a big lib? Because I went to Africa and I brought a water purifier. Yeah. Because I don't want to get parasites. Does that make me some kind of...

Yeah, you're like Dr. Fauci basically now. I guess, yeah, but you know what? I didn't have tapeworms, so I'll take it. I'm not willing to embrace your view on this because I don't want to undergo three days of people screaming at me on Twitter. However, just having gotten fresh eggs every now and again, animals are gross. They're disgusting. Like even the fresh eggs, they're covered in gross stuff. Yeah. Yeah, okay. All right. And we're human beings, damn it. We're human. Yeah. We don't, you know.

we like to clean things. That's one of the things that separate. We care about hygiene. We got fire. It's third world. This is my, I don't get the whole thing, but the,

the raw milk thing it's like to me it's the it's this thing we see with some people on the right it's almost like this glorification of third world behavior yeah which we should be the opposite but some third world behavior is good like having a lot of kids like you know the woman stays home raises the family like you know my buddy our buddy actually our mutual buddy wit says there's stuff that's trashy when you're poor but classy when you're rich like having a bunch of kids

is trashy when you're poor, but classy when you're rich. Eating cheese for dinner is trashy when you're poor, but classy when you're rich. And I think that some of these food behaviors fall into that category. I'd agree with a lot of that. But when it comes to hygiene and cleanliness...

Think about like Gwyneth Paltrow, you know, like rubbing salt on her underarms or what. I assume she does that, you know, like the, you know, the really rich Hollywood types. They're disgusting. They smell. But somehow that's classy. But if they were poor, it would be trash. And Gwyneth Paltrow probably drinks raw milk, I would assume. I would assume. There's this weird hippie right wing alliance thing. I'm not.

I've hated the hippies my whole life. I thought that's something we all agreed on. It's horseshoe, though. It's horseshoe theory. Now, if you want to be like a real hardcore-based Giga Chad right winger, you need to vote for Kamala, dude. That's where we're at. Okay, you're up. Are you up? Am I? I don't know. Oh, yes, I am. Okay, you're right. It's because I'm drinking. Taco Tuesday is cultural appropriation. How would I answer? Well, if we're answering this in real life, then...

Unless you have some kind of contrarian defense of cultural appropriation. Well, I think it's... Thought concepts. I think cultural appropriation is good. So I... Oh, wow. I was going to give you the point actually on that, but you actually make me now think, yes, it is cultural appropriation. It is good. Who has the best taco bowls in the country? Donald Trump and Trump Tower. But I agree with the...

But you would not actually call it culture because you're not appropriating. Appropriating is like stealing. You can't steal tacos from Mexican culture. The Pilgrims didn't. The Mayflower, which is the name of a great cigar brand, the Pilgrims on the Mayflower didn't have tacos. They didn't have much food at all, but they didn't have tacos. But you borrow, you are inspired by it. You borrow, you're going to give your taco back to Mexico? Yeah.

When I'm finished with it, they get it. The little crumbs. We appropriated cigars from the Taino Indians. That was great. But it was their thing. We took it. Isn't that just what culture is? But appropriating... No, because I wouldn't use the word appropriate. It's all down to appropriate. You think it's inappropriate. Appropriate means... It's a negative. It means that you're stealing.

No, you take it. I mean, look, it means you take it. So maybe you're taking justly or unjustly. No, but appropriate, I think, implies that it's unjust. It's like a dictionary definition. Yeah, no, that would be to inappropriate. No, what are you talking about? I use the word appropriate is right there in the word appropriate. Oh, they're the same word. Appropriate. Yeah.

means steal or to take unjustly. It implies injustice when the libs use it. Okay, so you're saying it is unjust. No, I'm saying it's, no, no, no. I was asking that incredulously. That's why I, you know, kind of spoke in every loud way with my inflection going up and down. I don't think it is unjust. We can take things for people. It's not yes, it's no. That's my point. No, but you're saying that is predicated on the belief that the word appropriates.

implies injustice, but I don't think it does. I think like, I think it's going to look it up. I'll look it up. Let's look it up. I'll look at it. Fine. Let's bring it in. I don't even want to trust Ben. Can we put it in the, okay. I guess we can't put it on the screen. Yeah. We, this is the daily wire. We do not, we just got that. So we don't have that five episodes ago. Uh, appropriate. It's going to give you the word appropriate. I bet. Well, I got it right here. Take for one's own use, typically without the owner's permission.

Yeah, it's without, we took the tacos without the Mexican permission. But there's no permission to be given. Yeah. Permission implies actual ownership. They don't own the tacos. You just take it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we'll take that point off for Matt right there. So you're saying no. Your answer is no. Okay, I'll take that. That's great. I think you're up. I can recite the land acknowledgement for the Daily Wire. You can recite it. It's just like a trick. It's Tennessee. I don't even know what Indians were in Tennessee. And you do like Indian food.

Slightly different geographic regions, but... Some say, but it's kind of, yeah, it's the loss to the mists of history. I would say you can. I can not. You can not? What the hell kind of question was that? I didn't know there was one. Well, it says, they gave me the, it says answer here. What's the answer? So I don't know if I was supposed to pretend that I knew it for this bit, and I ruined the bit. Here we go.

The Delaware occupies the ancestral hunting and traditional lands of the Cherokee, Shawnee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Creek peoples. I probably could have gotten Cherokee and maybe Creek, but not the other one. I thought, I got Choctaw vibe. Every time I walk in here, I'm thinking Choctaw. Feels a little Choctaw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, all right. I guess I lose that point. It's okay for white kids to dress up as Moana for Halloween. Well...

I would say, of course, no. They should only dress up as white characters. Who would ever want... No, I'm joking. It's okay if they want to. I don't like Moana. You don't like Moana? Really? I don't like it. I actually think that... Have you watched it? I saw part of it when my wife inadvertently put it on for our kids and I had to correct her and say we're not a Moana. Well, I actually think that Moana is one of the better... Well, it's probably the best Disney offering for children's films in like

15 years. That might be true. It's a long bar. Damning with faint praise. Right. My problem with it is it's not anything racial. It's that it's feminist. She wants to go be a king or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, it's got a little bit of that. I like the big fat Samoan guy character. That's kind of fun. Yeah, the music is pretty good for a kid's movie. Yes, I agree. And so it's not bad. I can have it on in the room and I don't want to, you know,

What was the last Disney movie you made chronologically that you would put on for your kids? Other than Moana, apparently. I mean, are we counting Pixar? No. Just Disney, Disney. That was probably the last one because some of these more recent ones are just... I would say like Lion King or something. I don't know. I'd go back to the 90s. Yeah, you go back to the 90s, there's a lot of good ones. Look, there was a lot of... I put...

Recently, I put Pocahontas on for my kids. It's been a long time since I... It's super woke. Yeah. I mean, the wokeness of that thing is just over the top. Have you ever heard the wolf cry? Yeah. That's most of what I remember. Of course it is. No, it was like the original POC lady hear me roar. Even though the real story of Pocahontas is great. What she actually did. Yeah, it's a great movie. Like in history, but not in Disney. A good movie could be made about the real story. Poor kids are just as smart as white kids.

That's what you think of me. I don't know what you're going to say. I don't know what you're going to say. Yeah, that was... Isn't that Biden's famous... The Biden quote? Yeah, that's a famous Biden quote. I mean, I'm going to say yes. You think poor kids are just as smart as white kids? Yeah, I mean, of course, there's a bit of a false... There's a false dichotomy here that we're struggling with. It assumes that white kids are never poor. Yeah. Poor kids are never white. Poor kids are never white. I mean, I think intelligence can...

be found across all social classes. Yeah. Personally. What about all races? Yes. Yeah. What do you think is the smartest race? I'm just trying to figure out some way to get you in trouble on this show. I'd go Eskimo. Eskimo? Yeah. Because they have all those words for snow. That's very impressive. Exactly. Okay. When you apply an entire bottle of cologne, it's okay to call it an Italian shower. Excuse me. When you apply an entire bottle of cologne, it's called an Italian shower. I'm going to assume that you're

you're horribly offended by such stereotypes correct it is not it's not that i'm offended it's just that that is not called an italian shower that is called a puerto rican shower what is an italian shower just a regular shower is no it's similar i don't know an italian shower i guess would be like you smoke like three packs of cigarettes you know you go out get real sweaty and have a sip of limoncello i'll take well then i'll i'd take the italian shower over the puerto rican

I have at least 17 to 15 black friends. You have 17 to 15? 15 to 17. 15 to 17. That's kind of odd how that was phrased. I know two of your black friends. So there's only 13 to go. Now, I saw the movie. I'm going to say... Because if you had 18, it would still be a no. I'm going to say you do not have 15 to 17 black friends. I don't have 15 to 17 friends at all. Because who has time...

Yeah. For that. Yeah. Because, you know, it's like how do you define friend? You define it very loosely. And then I have hundreds. Yes. But I kind of think like if it's not somebody that you would text or call and say, hey, you want to go out for a beer? Yes. Yeah. That is that is actually. That's a friend. That is the circle. Yeah.

So, right. So then you can't even get to 15 for me with that. I just don't have time for that. Yeah. And so therefore, even of just the couple of black friends of yours that I know, that means that's a huge percent. It's probably representative of the U.S. population. Yeah. Of your black friends. More actually. Yeah, you're right. Probably higher. Probably. Talking in the movie theater improves the experience for everyone in attendance. Why is this in a racist game?

Why is that question in a... We all know, because black people talk a lot in theater. I didn't know if there was going to be some esoteric thing. It proves. Well, unless you're... I'm going to assume you're not completely insane. The answer is no. I remember one time I went to see a movie that was probably more oriented toward a black audience. I don't even remember what the movie was, but I went to see it. Madea goes to... It was Big Madea's House 75, and Eddie Murphy played every part. Uh...

I forget the movie, but there was this stuff going on. And I found it kind of funny and delightful, actually, because it's unusual. You wouldn't get that in Brokeback Mountain theaters. You don't get that in Star Wars episode 23. But one time, the only time I really got irritated by people talking in a movie, I went out to see a movie in Sherman Oaks, and it was just me. Jeremy was there, I think. Jonathan Haye.

And there were like three other guys in the theater. There was these three black guys and they wouldn't shut up the entire movie. They were talking and I was so irritated. And then we walk out of the theater and I realized it was Kanye West and two of his friends. Really? Yeah. It was years ago, years ago. And you didn't yell at him to pipe down. I did. I had known it was Kanye West. I might have, but I, no, I didn't. We just, we, yeah, I can remember cause I grew up in a Baltimore area, not, not, but you know, we, our theaters were, uh, were quite diverse. And,

And I remember one time specifically, I went to a movie with a girl that I was dating when I was like 17 or 18. There was a whole group, a big group of, it was like black guys behind us. They were very, very loud. Yeah. And so the girl that I was with kept turning to me and said, you need to talk to them. Tell them to, like, you, like, no. How do you think that's going to go? You think they're going to, like,

There's no scenario where that makes the situation better. No. So stop emasculating me. Yeah. So we can just watch. Let me watch Big Medea's House 17. I think it was 8 Mile, actually, we were watching. Interesting. That's a liminal movie. It's kind of about a black thing, but it's a white guy. Yeah. Okay. Oh, you're up. Not a bad movie either, by the way. You've seen 8 Mile? No. I think I watched it once on TV. It's probably the best thing I've seen Eminem produce. Yeah. Um...

In general, Hispanic people are better at baseball. How you would answer? I hope you would answer the correct answer, which is no. My real answer is probably more like N.A. because I don't follow baseball. But I honestly would have said yes. Hispanic people are very good at baseball. Cubans in particular are extremely good at baseball. The MLB is littered with Hispanics and they're very, very good. So I'm not in any way disparaging. But I think the best baseball players ever, just even right now,

Aaron Judge. Is Aaron Judge Hispanic? I don't think so. I think of the most popular athlete of when we were kids, Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter's half black, half white. Paul O'Neill, an amazing athlete.

Bernie Williams was a little Yankee heavy because it was the 90s. Bernie Williams is Puerto Rican or something like that. You know, Jorge Posada, there's all that kind of stuff. But then I think, I don't know, the greats over the course of history, Hank Aaron, black guy, Willie Mays, black guy, Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle, white guys, Babe Ruth, greatest baseball player of all time, white guy. So, you know, there are great Hispanics

But I think they're better than most people in the league, but they're not at the very top. You're probably right about all that. But still, my answer would have been yes. Would have been yes. All right, fine. Take my point. Because I don't follow baseball. So if someone said, oh, yeah, they're good. Yeah, they're probably better. I mean, they're good. I'm trying to think who's the best Hispanic player right now. So Juan Pablo. Juan Pablo. He's great. What does he play again?

He's center field. Yeah, shortstop. For the Mets. Yeah, the Mets. It's amazing that they pulled a great player. The term Karen is offensive. I think you'll get this one. I think you get this one right. I'm not just being cute here. I'm not just trying to take a point away from you, though I'm happy to do it. It is not offensive. But it should be. But it should be offensive. But it is. No. Just because people don't acknowledge it. They're not offended.

But it should be. I'm offended. It should give offense. I are. You're not really offended. Well, you know, you just think because I don't have human emotion doesn't mean I recognize that it is offensive. Non sociopaths should find it. But but it's defamatory. It is. It's a it's a racial degrading. It's degrading. It's degrading. It is a racial slur. It's derogatory. It's all these things. But white people. That's offensive.

You think it's derogatory racial slur? I think it's only offensive if it gives offense. And white people don't get offended by anything because they don't have any racial consciousness. Pew Research did this whole study, how important race is to people of different races. And Hispanics and Asians were somewhere around 50%, a little higher. For black people, it was over 70%. White people, 15%.

They don't get offended by it. That's why in the culture, the only group you can make fun of is white people. Yeah. Well, they don't think they're allowed to be offended. Right. Or stand up for themselves. All right. It's okay for a non-British actor to play the next James Bond.

Davies didn't want to write Idris Elba in there, but that's obviously what he's talking about. Even though Idris Elba's now too old. He's a good actor, but he's not James Bond. But he's British. Well, now we're getting into real... This is the real crux of the race. By nationality. By nationality, he is. But if I move to Nigeria...

By nationality, I'd be Nigerian. They could have said it's okay for a non-white actor, but they didn't say that. They said British. Well, this is what gets to the heart of the question. Because America is now for many, many decades a non-racial, multicultural, you know, anybody could be an American. It doesn't matter your ethnicity or race.

Until very, very recently, you had to be a white guy with crooked teeth and a funny accent to be a Brit. Now, however, you can be from Karachi and if you've been there for a few weeks, you're British. And the Brits debate this among themselves. What does it even mean to be British? So I don't even know the meaning of British in this context. But then further, okay, let's take a non-Brit, either white guy or some other kind of race. What if it were a white guy but he's not British? That's the hard case.

Like a Swedish James Bond? No, no way. Yeah, you got it wrong because I would say yes. You think a non-British actor can be James Bond? Yeah, as long as... Here's what I would not accept. I certainly would not accept a James Bond who doesn't have a British accent.

But if you can play, if you get a Swedish guy who could put the accent on. All right. Well, no, that's my answer. I mean, because it's acting. So if you can act as a British guy and pull it off. Okay, well, then let me get to the hard case. Yeah. What if you're talking about a guy from Tibet? He's a Tibetan Buddhist. He's a follower of the Dalai Lama. Yeah. But he does a mean British accent. Can that guy play James Bond?

Is the Buddhist stuff part of it, or is it... It is not part of it. He checks the Buddhism at the camera, but he is extremely Asian, and he's playing James Bond. For James... For me, it's like a case-by-case basis with this stuff, and I think with James Bond...

I'm okay with the race swapping. I'm never okay with the gender swapping. Certainly not. But the race, I don't even think, we got back to the Italian question. No Italian should be playing James Bond. No Frenchman should be playing James Bond. One of the problems here is that we know this is not consistent. So there's a double standard. But I don't have a double standard. I'm not going to be playing Idi Amin in any biopics. But historical figure, here's my, so we're putting the double standard of society to the side, my own standard.

If it's a historical figure, you need someone who actually reflects... You can't get a black guy to play around Lincoln. That's ridiculous. If it's a fictional character, then it should be okay to have different races. As long as they can play the character and they're playing the character, then for me, that should be okay. If it's happening across the board and everyone's allowed to take part... And if you could do...

I also would say take a blade from Marvel. Yeah. I would have no issue if you want to have a white guy play that character.

What if you have a fictional character, he's a Brahmin guru in Varanasi, India, right? It was written by Rudyard Kipling or something like that. And you decide you're going to cast James Corden to play the Brahmin guru, Deepak Shamahapati. Do you think that that's fine? In my utopian world, as long as you can play the part,

Now, you will have... So with something like that, the fact that he's not... He doesn't look the same in the story, you'd probably have to acknowledge that and explain it some way, somehow. Okay? So if it ruins the story... Yeah. So, like, if this is supposed to be, you know, a Viking... Yeah. Which they've done... I think Netflix has done this. And you've got some... You've got a guy from Nigeria as a Viking. Yeah. That just...

It takes you out of the story because it's so absurd. Unless you can explain it in some way. You have to at least acknowledge. Okay. Like, maybe this guy was kidnapped by Vikings and now he is one. So your point then on James Bond would be he's a fictional character. Until recently, he would have been a tough-looking white guy. But...

The way you explain it is, UK's had mass migration for 60 years, and so now he's a Tibetan guy. So that's the point. If you make another James Bond, there's no reason why that guy couldn't look like... In fact, statistically now, he probably would. Okay, all right. If anything, they shouldn't have any more white James Bonds. That takes you out of it. What's this white guy doing here? Pronouncing ask as axe...

They even did the phonetic spelling as if I couldn't pronounce A-K, or A-X rather. You know the A with the E attached to it? They did that one with a K and an S. It makes it more confusing. It makes it much more. Pronouncing ask as axe should be normalized. What would I say? Again, I want to know why that's a racial... Why is that racial? Huh? Mr. Davies? Uh...

Correct. It should not be normalized. Language ought to have a healthy degree of prescription to it, not just description. And it's a bastardization of the language. However, language does change. I actually, I don't want to sound like a huge lib here or anything, but colloquial dialects, including like Ebonics or whatever we're supposed to call it now, there is something to it. Like even, you know, Clarence Thomas was raised in England.

or South Carolina. And his first language was Gullah, Gullah Geechee, which is this weird patois kind of language that's hard to understand. English was his second language. And Gullah Geechee is not proper, you know, it's not proper high language. But it's kind of interesting. I'm kind of into, like, I actually don't mind the axe so much. It tells me something about how language and grammar develops, but we should not encourage it in our schools. You lib. I know, I sound like a huge lib. Oh my goodness. Um,

Most black kids don't even know what the word computer is. Oh, I think that was another Biden quote. Or it was some lib. It was some big Democrat. I want to say Biden. Was it Biden? Okay. Oh, no, no. It was Kathy Hochul, the governor of New York. Oh, right. You're right. They don't know the word computer. Okay. Do I think that Matt Walsh believes that black kids know what computers are? No. Do you believe that I think they don't know? That they don't know.

See, I hate it when they phrase it like this because then you do the yes or the double negative. Do you actually have to think about this? Well, no, no, no. I don't have to think about your answer. I have to think about how grammar works to say no, no, they don't not know what a computer is. No, no, I don't think they don't know. You don't think. Well, let me, it's better if I say it.

I'm not giving the answer, but I don't think that they don't know. So would you say, yes, I don't think they don't know? I don't say no. I don't think they don't know. I don't think that they don't know what a computer isn't. But would you say yes or no? If you were trying to express that thought, would you say no? I don't I don't think they don't know. No, we didn't say yes or no at the beginning. No, because I don't want to give you the answer. But I don't think that they don't know what a computer is not. The answer is no. I mean, it's OK. Yeah.

I think, yes. Black kids know what a computer is. They know what a computer is. I think we can assume that they know what a computer is. Because computers have been around for like... For a little bit. Many decades now. Yeah. A few years. Why does she think black kids don't know what a computer is? I wish... They don't know where a DMV is either. That's true. They don't know what voter ID is. I kind of wish kids of all races didn't know what a computer is. But they all know. Yeah. Okay.

It would be. Yeah, I agree. It would be. My kids don't know how to use a computer. That's great. I'm very proud of that. That's fair. And no smartphones. No smartphones. Certainly not. Can you imagine a parent gives the kid a smartphone right now? It's abuse. Unironically, I think. Yes, I agree. At a certain age, to give your eight-year-old a smartphone is abuse. Yeah, I agree.

The Rooney rule, which requires NFL teams to interview at least two external candidates from underrepresented minorities for head coaching vacancies, is racist. What would I say? I think you'd say yes. Yeah, by definition it is, but it's also much less racist.

significant than say affirmative action in college admissions because the consequence of this, you know, the libs say, well, this is going to force the teams to hire fewer white guys. And because there's, there's a lot of black under-representation in the National Football League, of course, but they'll say, okay, this is going to force fewer white guys to be coaches.

And that's a good thing. We don't like white guys. We want there to be fewer of them. But the funny part is it won't force that at all. It'll just waste the time of two black guys every time a coach position comes up if the team wants to hire a white guy. Yeah. Right. The rule is just, hey, guys, we're going to waste your time to go along with the NFL. It's even more degrading than that because it's like, it actually is like,

two specific black guys who get who are always called in for the like in the nfl there are a couple of black coaches that are just kind of they're your rooney guys yeah and they usually and every once they get hired and then they get fired a year later and it's just they just start they circulate around that's a career it is i mean it's a hey it's a job it's a way to make a living people who drive lifted trucks are not compensating for anything again we have the weird are not why is that racial

Yeah, I don't even know what that is. Who is it? I guess it's like... Oh, no. That's hydraulics. Lifted trucks is the... That's like a white guy thing, actually. Yeah, because I think the question implies that it's... Who do they think it is? Do they think it's a black thing? I think they think it's a white thing.

Like white, like good old boys, like in the South, you know, with their big lifted trucks and their Gadsden flags and their, you know, MAGA hats and they're driving around. Yeah, it's definitely... It's not a black thing. No. So how poorly was this phrased? People who drive lifted trucks are not compensating for anything. Oh, why...

Why don't we force, it's written on the board. Where? Oh, now it is. It wasn't before. Why don't we force the producers at this company to read Strunk and White's Elements of Style so that people who drive lifted trucks are not compensating for anything? You would say, yes, they're not compensating for anything. I mean, no, they're not compensating.

But what I would say is, no, they're not compensating for anything. But what I said to say that I would say, yes, they're not compensating for anything. I know, but I would say, oh, they're not compensating for anything. So I would say, no, I would, I would mean the same thing that you think I mean, but I would say no. Yeah. And why? So, okay. We agree. Even if Ben Davies just made me lose that point because of how he writes these, these prompts, uh,

They're not, right? Sometimes you need the truck to be a big thing. Yeah, the whole compensating thing. What does that mean? Some people just, that's what they like. I don't know. Yeah. I don't see the point. I actually, I'm such a cheapskate. I drive a little sedan. I don't even, because I don't, what am I hauling? I'm not building barns on my property. I'm not, I might change a light bulb. Yeah. What do I need a big truck for? I drive a, you know, I was found at one of my black friends, Ben, who's in the movie.

He just casually the other day, a couple of few weeks ago, told me that I, that what I drive is feminine. I'm like, no, it's a, because it's kind of nice. Yeah. Cause it's sort of, but it's cool. It's a, I don't, I never even, no one's ever said that to me. Yeah. So I got this whole complex about it. Well, it's British. It is some suburban, like bougie white ladies do drive it, but I don't know. It's a way, you know, it's in world war two.

Yeah. That's not, yeah. I don't think, I think it's a, what, remind, what color? I don't want to. It's white. Yeah. But it's white, well, yeah, it's white, but what's wrong with white? It's a little. Is white a feminine color for a car? Yeah. Is it? I think it is. Is there, can I get a poll of the room? The control room agrees it's a feminine color. My grandmother had several. Is the control room saying that my car is feminine? Are you specifically, gentlemen, saying Matt's car is feminine?

90%. He says, yeah. Get a new car. That's rough. I got to go get a new car. Yeah. I like it. You should take Jeremy's side. I like my car, but I need a new one. You need a new one immediately. Yeah. You are more likely... I accidentally cross-dressed with my car. That could be the third movie. Yeah. And then it goes full circle. You are more likely to have a happy marriage with an illegal alien than a liberal. Your answer. Oh, this is your answer. Oh, this is my answer? Um...

That's what you say, yeah. For sure. Yeah, yeah. Not even a question. The illegal alien, decent chance, very good chance the person is Christian. Pretty good chance the person's Catholic. Raised in some kind of a more traditional culture that isn't infected with all this liberalism.

Yeah, for sure, right? I think. You might, unfortunately, you might end up in debt to the cartel and end up being like, have your head blown off by MS-13, but even including that, probably better than marrying a liberal. Yeah, well, because marrying a liberal almost certainly won't work. Yeah. Because you have no values in common whatsoever. So. Yeah. Taylor Swift is better than Beyonce. I have a definite answer to this. I should feel strongly about it. Yeah.

Beyonce's a better singer, but Taylor's songs are kind of better in the pop culture. The prompt was, Taylor Swift is better. She's less politically corrosive, Taylor Swift, though she's somewhat politically corrosive.

She's not as good a singer, but her songs are kind of nicer. I would say Taylor Swift. You would say she is better than Beyonce. Yeah. Yeah, she is better. Because you're a racist and you don't like that Beyonce is black. There's that. Yeah. So the main thing with Taylor Swift is that she's white. So aside from that, they both endorse Kamala, so they're both big libs. Yeah, yeah. But here's what, and I don't like Taylor Swift's music, but I give a lot of, I give huge points for you write your own music.

And Taylor Swift certainly at least did that for a while. She at least presented herself that way, at least. Yeah. But you get credit for that. She was at least involved in the writing of her songs. She heard her songs at some point. She heard them. Somewhere along the line. Whereas with Beyonce, she doesn't know what her song is until she's in the booth and they give her the words. She has no idea. That's true. And I think Taylor Swift can play some version of a guitar...

At least a few chords. She can hold it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So she's closer to being a songwriter and musician than Beyonce is. And also her, you know, Beyonce is so politically, you know, active. She showed up to the DNC, not this time, but previously. And she's, you know, she's, I don't know, some people say she's in the Illuminati. I'm not going there. I'm just saying she's politically engaged.

And her music, like that Dolly Parton remake, was so awful. That alone? Yeah. Disqualified. You lose every contest. However, Taylor Swift, you know, her songs are basically inoffensive. Boppy, my boyfriend dumped me. I'm going to move on, whatever. Beyonce has two things going for her. She was in Goldmember, the Austin Powers movie. The worst Austin Powers movie. It was the worst, but it was the third. What do you expect? You know, I watched it. I'd watch it again every 15 years. She's in Knowles.

her name is knolls there's that we that's could be distantly related well italians are black you've already italians are black and people don't know this about beyonce she's a hundred percent calabrian and no one understands that i didn't i didn't either no um but she's still

She's still really bad. She's bad. I don't think she's a bad singer. I don't think she's a good singer. Yeah, but Taylor Swift is, you know, she's not Pavarotti either, right? Neither of them are. Neither, okay. Yeah, no, listen, I agree. It's just I'm a little raw because Taylor just endorsed Kamala. Beyonce's a better dancer. Yes. So, but she's black, so. Yeah. The hips don't lie. They don't. Okay.

That's our shoot. Who won? We did win. Okay, so Mr. Davies says Matt won and I am more racist. That's outrageous. As a person of color, we established at the beginning of the show I'm a person of color. Yeah, but I lost my car. I don't have a car anymore. Yeah, it's true. Because it's white. Yeah. Tough out there for the whites. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Yes or No Game. And we will see you next time. They said I'm more racist.