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I mean, that's what I'm saying. I don't know what time it is. I want everybody to gather around now. Gather around. I like that. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

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So this is the episode that we call the loft meeting where we invite honorary roomies to come and talk about all things new girl, all things 4D, all things about the loft. Today we have the beautiful, amazing and beloved Jessica Radloff with us. Jessica is the senior West Coast editor at Glamour and also the author of

of the New York Times bestseller, The Big Bang Theory, the definitive inside story of the epic hit series. And she was one of the first critics to profess her love.

for New Girl. She's going to talk to us about what makes New Girl special, what was going on when season two wrapped, and why we aren't seeing the mid-20s, early 30s sitcom featuring a group of friends that much anymore. Was New Girl the last one or is there room for more bestie hijinks in the future? We're going to get into it. Let's go, rooms. Oh, my Lord, Hannah, that was the night

Thank you so much. I'm so glad it was you doing it instead of Lamorne. I'm a little scared. If I did it, I would have been like, oh, she wrote this book, The Big Bang Theory. Like, when is she going to write the new girl book? This is also a good question. When is the new girl book coming? Because we need. Do you want me to write the new girl book? I'll write the new girl book if you want me to.

Although I have to say, you have to be prepared for it. You got to think long and hard because when I did the Big Bang Theory book, Jim Parsons spent over 20 hours with me. So you got to be prepared to like go. It's like therapy sessions. You got to go deep. So think about it. I'm there for it. I love it. Duh. I've got all the juicy details. I'll feed you.

I mean, I want to know everything. Some jinkies. But that's very sweet of you. It would be my honor if you guys wanted to do that one day. Because it only works when the cast is willing to go there. Yeah. Listen, I'm totally down. I'm totally down. Yeah, I'm down too. As long as I get a certain percentage of royalties from the sales. All right. Well, we just need you two. That's it. It's a new girl oral history with just...

Lamorne Morris and Hannah Simone. I can speak for Jake. I can speak for Max and Damon because, yeah, because we talk all the time. I know exactly what they're feeling. And Hannah can speak for Zoe and all the guest stars. I'll speak for Zoe and Ferguson and Outside Dave. Yes. Yes. I actually was thinking Ferguson could be the cover. That would be great. That would be great. Wouldn't that? Why don't I reel all the way back to the beginning? Because I'm...

I want to know your memories and your story of New Girl from your lens. Do you remember the first time you came on set or met us?

Yes. And I was going down memory lane last night because I was looking up all the old glamour articles that we ever wrote about the show week. I mean, I knew we covered the show a lot. I didn't realize how much we covered the show. It is really funny to see some of these old headlines also.

I was like, now I know why Lamorne wanted me on to talk about season two as well. Because in one article that we did, we actually said season two belongs to Winston, a.k.a. Lamorne Morris. And I was like, there we go. No, that's what that's what we said. And then also, yeah.

I don't know if Lamorne remembers this, but you both were there. So we had Zoe on the cover of Glamour. I want to say it was like January 2013. And we honored her with a dinner. So this was right at the height of season two. We honored her with a dinner. You and Lamorne were there. And the headline, like I talk about, I was like,

The coolest thing about Zooey Deschanel is we couldn't love her anymore because look what she does for her co-stars. Because Lamorne told me that she bought him a toaster oven with the Miami Heat label on it and it made Miami Heat toast.

And then also got him a sparkly backpack with the Miami Heat logo on it. And then after the dinner that night, he texts me the pictures of these items of the toaster and the backpack. And like, it was just the funniest thing. Like I was looking back on all these things and I was like, okay, like going back to 2011, 2012, like I feel like I came up

with you guys as well. Cause that was around the time I started at Glamour. So it's like, we all grew up together and you guys, there's just nobody like us.

all of you together. All of you individually are so talented, but you get all of you in a room and it's just all bets are off because the camaraderie, everything was so good. I still have, this is, just want to clear this up for the folks out there, not a Miami Heat fan. I'm a LeBron James fan. Yes, I'm sorry. But they were Miami Heat fans.

Because at the time LeBron was playing for the Heat. I still have all those items. Have I made a grilled cheese sandwich with this toaster? No. Have I used the toaster? You never did? Wait a minute. Hold up.

Why would the toaster be involved in a grilled cheese sandwich? This lets me know other people are making your grilled cheese sandwiches for you. No, Anna, I'm just not Canadian. Were you pre-toasting the bread before you make the grilled cheese? Yeah, extra crispy. No, you're not. Now you're just doubling down on something you know that sounded crazy. Hannah, listen to what she just said. This is how I know you're not paying attention to the great...

Jessica Radloff. She just said that the toaster makes a Miami Heat logo imprinted on it. How am I going to do that in the pan? So you want to sit there and pre-toast your bread. So it can have the logo on it. On your grilled cheese. Yeah, so I can eat a Miami Heat grilled cheese.

Jessica, we're going to need you to do this. That's right. I want to see it now. Can you please make this? Yes, I will. Because we need a little bit of that. I want to bring some South Beach to this sandwich. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I want some home cooking on this podcast now. I really, and we should have a taste test to see Lamorne's grilled cheese. I know. Or French toast. You never know when to pre-toast the bread. Okay, I'm distracted. Hannah doesn't cook. I know.

Wow. This is what we would write about, I remember, back in the day. It just was so funny to see all these old articles and just the headlines. And by the way, this was really funny, too, is that every time I would interview Zoe in the beginning of the series, she would always take my phone and take selfies with it. Now, at the time, because this is 2012, we were

we didn't know they were called selfies. So in my articles, I refer to them as Zoe took my phone for a self-portrait. No way. Because we didn't, like selfies wasn't in our vocabulary really yet. So she would always take it. I didn't know what that was called. And I'm like, wow.

Like we were children back then. It was just so crazy. We did. We like all grew up together and came of age with this show. That's why it's so special. We talked about how I was the hero of season two. Thank you for saying so. That means a lot. This is what the fans in the world say. This is what God says.

But at the end of season two, you know, Taylor Swift shows up. Nick and Jess, they run off together. Talk about the state of the fandom. Wait a minute, Lamorne, you forgot something huge there. What? At the end of season two?

Well, Taylor, you just Taylor Swift shows up, but Hannah gets to share a scene with her. This is true. I don't care. I wasn't there for that. And I'm so disappointed that they wrote it that way. They did not invite me to the party. Well, Hannah and everybody are living it up with Taylor Swift, getting free tickets, hanging out in her mansion,

taking trips on her private plane. They probably go to Chiefs games for free now. I mean, I love this alternate universe, by the way. I'm not even going to correct you because I want it to come true. Keep talking. I didn't get any of that fanfare. But talk about the state of the...

fandom at that point, you know, because with us, and I want you to talk about it from your point of view, because with us, you know, we were working so much that we didn't really get a chance to go out and see it unless we were being honored at some gala or some event or things like that. And on our downtime, I just like to be at home for the most part. But every once in a while, you'd notice it from the fans on the street when you go out or do regular things. Talk about it from your standpoint of what it looked like being kind of behind the scenes and writing about it and

being on that side of the coin. - Yeah, well, like you said, it was really the, almost the last great 2030 something romantic comedy sitcom that we had. And it was paired with the Mindy Project after the first season. So it was like appointment viewing.

And we really hadn't had that in such a long time. And I really do compare in many ways the relationship between Winston and Schmidt and Nick with the trio that we had on Friends, with Joey and with Chandler and with Ross. Like the way that you guys all work together was so great. And then of course it's like Cece and Jess, it was kind of like Rachel and Monica in some ways. And I think aside from just,

The amazing acting and the writing. It was the way in which you all came together that made this so successful. And there was an audience for that because people were still also watching network television at the time. Now TV has changed so much. I mean, you guys came about really before Netflix and the Hulus and all that really took over. So will we see that again? Yeah.

I'm sure we will at some point because everything is cyclical and there's always a craving. But at the same time, I do think that people know if you can't do something right, there's no point in bringing that kind of genre back just for the sake of it.

And some people have tried and it doesn't really work because what you guys did was lightning in a bottle, as they call it. And I learned that, especially from doing the Big Bang book, that you have to have so many components come together in order to make a show a hit. And you all had that. I mean, I don't even know how you guys memorized your lines because the dialogue that you had to memorize and the speed in which you said it

It was insane. I was trying to watch it with closed captioning even last night, and the closed captioning is a mess because it's just line after line on top of each other. And it's just...

You just don't get that kind of speed and tone in a lot of these rom-com sitcoms anymore. So I do think it was kind of the last one of its kind. But I think it'll be back in a different form unless you guys bring it back as a reunion. I also found this was funny. In one of my early interviews, Max Greenfield said to me that he was going to do a spinoff.

called Schmidt Happens. So I'm still waiting for that one. But yeah, it was really cool and fascinating to watch all of you just...

be so embraced by viewers because it really was the last kind of appointment television viewing at that time where every week you knew where to find New Girl and also 25 episodes you did in season two. Like that doesn't happen anymore. So you were in everybody's lives all the time except for two or three months in the summer. And then we still had reruns back then too. So it was really cool to watch

all of you just be embraced by all these fans and in critical acclaim too. Like it wasn't just the fans, like you guys really, this was such a smart move.

That it's hard to find. I could see it coming back in a different style universe in a different dimension in a Golden Girls esque dimension, because at this point, you know, I'm still the youngest in the cast. So I probably wouldn't be able to fit that that cast. But I think the rest of the cast is.

They're all... You'd be a baby Blanche for sure. Aged up, you know what I'm saying? You would be a baby Blanche for sure. Yeah, well, you could make grilled cheese sandwiches. Yeah, I could. You know, on the lanai. Yeah, I see that. I mean, talking about Taylor Swift, because we've been talking a lot about season two, I can't quite recall because we really were deep into shooting. And like you said, we did 25 episodes. So the schedule was a little relentless. Yeah.

Where was Taylor Swift in terms of like the fan fervor at that time? Because I knew she was a big get at the time, but she's done nothing but like kept ascending since then. Right. I mean, she's in a different universe now. I think we can all agree like what's happened, especially in the last couple of years. Like she's just she's in her own orbit. And I mean that in the best way possible, because she has just reached a level that

very seldomly happens, but she was a huge get back in 2013 when she guest starred in the finale. And I remember that it was so hyped up and we wrote about it because it was, of course we wrote about it. I mean, we wrote about it every week, but like that episode in particular, we went all in on because it was the season finale. Taylor was guest starring, seasonally,

Cece's wedding doesn't happen. Nick and Jess end up, you know, really making a go of it again. Winston is in a vent up top. You know, like all these things are happening. But yeah, Taylor was, she was huge back then. That was a huge get. She and Prince are the two names that we always think about when we think of New Girl guest stars. And you guys had so many guest stars that...

I mean, it's truly insane. And you didn't even need them either. That's the thing. And Liz Merriweather, I remember, was telling me at one point that she didn't want to do a lot of stunt casting because you didn't need it. We came to see you guys. We didn't come to see the stunt casting. But the fact that... I'm sorry. You had Prince and Taylor Swift on your show, aside from all these other people. It's just insane when you really do think about it. So...

Taylor was a big, big deal then. And that was 2013. Yeah, it's interesting because it's funny you made the Friends comparison. And then I think about the huge stars that were on Friends 2.

But they didn't need it either. It's really funny. It's like people wanted to come and play. Yeah. Because they were just fans of the show. Like a lot of those were incoming calls, which is crazy. Or quick yeses from people that didn't do any other like network comedy shows.

They just really wanted to jump into this weird little world that they were fans of. It's fun to see. It's fun when you do look back and you look at the Olivia Rodrigo's of the world. You know, you look at folks who not started on New Girl, but obviously Ron Funches, for example. They've then since become these stars that.

and they were all a part of the New Girl family. It reminds me of Sesame Street in a way, where you go, oh man, all these people were on Sesame Street. They were all like, really, Michael B. Jordan was on Sesame Street? You go, yeah. That's kind of wild to me to think about our show that way because over the years, I find people that will come up to me, actors who might not even be big actors

names like Taylor Swift or Olivia Rodrigo or Prince, but they would go, hey man, I was in this episode of New Girl. I was the guy who said this in the car. Or I was the guy at the convenience store. We did a scene together in the restaurant. And it's so many people. When you think back on it, you go, man, that's a big connection with a lot of different people. And then you realize, oh, we've done over 150 episodes. I mean, maybe Jessica will relate to this. I always say we're like the Law and Order of L.A.,

Like in New York, every actor is like, I did a Law & Order episode and everybody somehow feels like so many actors are connected into the New Girl universe. Oh, yeah. Yep. Do you know the one actor that Liz Merriweather wanted to guest star and she told me she wasn't able to get? Do you guys know who that was? Yeah.

Do you have any idea? Bruce Willis. I know Bruce Willis he did. They did try to get. Bruce Willis? It was true. Bruce Willis was supposed to come and be on the show. I do remember that. I was so devastated. Wow. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Sarah Silverman. Get out. Sarah Silverman. She said no? No. I don't even think it was a no. It was just scheduling didn't work out or something. So, yeah. I just, I think that's so funny.

That's so funny. I mean, Sarah Silverman's amazing, but I'm sorry, still, when you have Prince and Taylor Swift. Sarah, you're dead to me. We figured it out. We figured it out. It was for the Prince episode. Yeah.

But it worked out. Oh, my God. I love that. I do have to say, though, you know, the thing that's so interesting is that as a journalist, you get very close to the cast of shows that you write about and work with and everything. But you rarely stay close.

connected with them after a show ends. And Lamorne has remained, like he's in my life forever. He's remained one of my dearest friends. Like I love him. And Hannah, anytime I see you, it's like no time has passed. And it's just, there's a special bond with you guys. And there was just something, no matter how successful you got, you all remained friends.

so level-headed about it all. And I think that was one of the most beautiful things about it being the ensemble that it was too, is that you all recognized what you had.

which was really cool. And I mean, I still see it now. I was talking to Lamorne at an Emmy party this past January and the amount of people that just kept coming up to him like throughout the night just to talk about like New Girl and stuff. It's really incredible. I get it. It just, it was something that really touched a lot of people and stayed with them. I will say like it's interesting because, you know, none of us, especially like, you know, Lamorne and myself,

And Jake, like it had been on anything that had this level of success. So we were all kind of born into that world together. And it's a little overwhelming and you're figuring it out on your feet. It's a massive learning curve. And it was the true gift to have because we did a lot of press all the time, nonstop. But it was the true gift to have journalists like yourself who

who we knew were a safe space because we would walk those carpets and you're talking to people and sometimes you don't know if someone has an agenda or not and then you would it was always just like the greatest relief

to see you come on set or to see you on a carpet or to know that, oh, you have this phoner and it's with Jessica because you could just breathe a little bit and your shoulders would drop and you would just know, oh, it's going to be a good time. And they have the best interest of like myself and the show at the heart of it, which is really nice because it's, you know, things can be taken out of context or,

or, you know, out of pocket questions are being asked about someone's personal life. And there was just a few people. And I think that's why these friendships still stand today. Because it was so genuine. It's, you know, and I mean, after a decade of it, it's something that you know, was real and true. So we're really grateful for you too.

That is very, very sweet. Your check's in the mail, Hannah, or I'll Venmo you. As they say now. In 2012, I could be like, the check is in the mail. Now I'm going to be like, I'm going to Venmo you after this. But even talking about the relationships with some of the cast members,

outside of the show. Like you said, Jessica, you and I, we've stayed in communication and we hang out here and there and we've been, you know, really good friends for years. My mother took you to dinner. Remember when you went to dinner with my mom? Yes.

So, I mean, like, not only, it's not only about the show, but even in endeavors outside of the show, it's great to have someone that genuinely cares about your path as well, not just on that one particular show. That's true. You know, always giving me advice on this or that or helping me with this or that or, you know, and vice versa. Mainly women. Mainly women. But I've given you relationship advice too. You have. You really have. You know?

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But I know you talked a lot about the comparison to Friends. During this time, there were a lot of big shows. There was obviously the Big Bang Theory. Girls was a thing, like a big, big hit show. Two Broke Girls. Yeah.

How I Met Your Mother, Happy Endings, all these shows. And to me, this was a it's kind of a golden era on TV because all these shows are fantastic. All these shows are great. Not saying one's better than the other. But what made New Girl stand out? What was in your opinion, you know, having covered a lot of these shows, what was what would you say was the difference between our show or let's say, you know, a Big Bang Theory?

I'll tell you exactly what it is because I was reminded of this as I was watching it last night. It is the honesty in which these characters were portrayed. A lot of the times we saw Schmidt and Winston and Nick as these like man children. We got to see them be very vulnerable in ways that we hadn't seen in a while. But it wasn't just pure silliness. There was always truth.

at the very heart of it. And that's what made it so interesting. And I think, you know, Big Bang was a different show. It was multi-cam. You guys, you know, obviously shot New Girl differently. Also, you're dealing with

uh, people that the characters on big bang, that a lot of them were socially stunted in a way that you could say there was still some, a lot of social, you know, um, social awkwardness on new girl, but it was a different kind, but the way in which it was all portrayed and the honesty in which you guys all talked about relationships and career stuff and your worries, um,

We hadn't really seen that in a way that mixed the emotion with the humor. Usually so many shows will go just straight for the laugh, but you had to care about these characters first. And that's what New Girl did better than any other romantic comedy sitcom was that you truly cared where these people would be, where they would wind up and you

What you all brought to it was just, again, it's kind of boring to keep saying over, but it's so true. If anybody else was doing these roles, it would not have clicked the way that it did. You guys brought so much to it in the performances from the writing. So yeah, I really do think New Girl stood out above a lot of other shows that were popular at that time because

Because of the way in which these characters were written, that you truly cared about their well-being in ways that you cared about certain other characters, but maybe not in that same way. Yeah. You talk a lot about, well, not a lot, but you spoke about Appointment TV and how it was one of those shows where

That people would, you know, DVR, they'd all gather around, they'd have watch parties, things like that. But during the pandemic, we saw that streaming became a thing where you could just kind of sit back and binge it. And during that time, Nude Girl, along with a few other shows, became...

It was almost, there was this resurgence as if the show were brand new to a lot of folks. To this day, I get people that, you know, in their early 20s that will say, hey, are you guys doing another season of New Girl? And they genuinely mean it. They don't mean a reunion. They mean, is there another season? Like, we love your Netflix show, New Girl. Yes. Now Hulu show, New Girl. They think it's a brand new streaming show that...

That has not ended yet. Exactly. Well, I get it because you all look the same too, which we're going to, I'm going to need all of your skincare routines because that's, that'd be great. Seriously. If you guys look so much older, which is also wonderful, you know,

I could be like, okay, what are these people? I could understand why it would be a little weird if viewers are like, when is the next season coming out? But you all look the same. Get out. I need your skincare routines because you could put all of you back into this show as if you hadn't, like no time has passed. And I would believe that it was just...

What, season eight? Yeah. Yeah. Why not? Listen, Jessica, you got to start. What are you drinking over there? Me? Both of you. That's a good question. Coffee. Coffee. Yeah, it's a lot of coffee. Got to have my coffee. Maintained herself with coffee. It's been that way since Duke Girl, actually. Funny thing, I wasn't drinking coffee.

prior to Nougat. Yeah, that's true. I remember this. I was not. And then these early call times, waking up early, I was like, you know what? By lunch, I'm legit passed out in my trailer. So tired. So many coffees. And then people would go, have you had espresso? I go, well, what the F is that? And then they had the little machine in there. And so I just kind of got used to making these cool, frothy coffees.

weird, you know, lattes. That's actually a very good episode because there's so much coffee talk that happened on our set. Where you got your coffee, how you drank your coffee, what were the rules around the coffee. Max was usually at the center of it. He was like our big coffee fiend who had like

Not shockingly, but he had like a lot of rules about how it was supposed to happen. And if not, you were just like, you know, disgusting. Oh, my God. Wait, speaking of Max, do you want to hear a funny story that I remember to go into all this?

I will never forget. I don't even know how this happened, but it was season two, I believe. I was told one day that I was going to be taking a SoulCycle class with Max Greenfield. I was there. Were you there for that? Yeah, it was for charity. Yes, I think it was for Milk and Bookies also. Yes, I was there. He called me an hour before and I raced over. I know this because I think you took...

a picture of Max and I, and I look so sweaty and out of sorts because I'm not a workout person. And he looked great because he loved to work out and he was so happy with all the turnout and everything. Oh my gosh. I remember this. Okay. Sorry. Continue. This is so, no, this is so funny. Also you would look, you look amazing just getting out of bed. I'm sure. So

I don't want to hear this. Like you did seriously. But, oh, stop Lamorne. When she wakes up, you know what? Actually, I have to say this to Lamorne. I'm proud of you for telling the truth. We've talked about this. Stop lying to women. Yes. Tell the truth. Tell the truth. Tell the truth.

Oh, my God. We're working on these things in real life, Jessica. Real life things. I understand. He can say I look like a monster in the morning. It's okay. I can hear it. I can take it. I can take it. I'm strong enough. It's okay. I love it. Oh, my God. So anyway, so I remember we were doing this interview with Max and they told us it was going to be on camera for Glamour. We were recording it.

I've never taken a damn SoulCycle class in my life. I'm mainly like a treadmill or elliptical girl. I don't do SoulCycle. So remember, I have my note cards in one hand, a microphone in the other, trying not to fall off. Granted, I'm not even- Well, you had to do it on the bike during the class?

So wait, well, I didn't understand this part. This is where it got crazy is then they're like, well, we need you to pedal. And I was like, I'm sorry, what? You want me to actually work out with him while interviewing him at the same time? And they're like, yeah, that's the point of it. And I was just, I mean, that might've been the, that must've been the equivalent of like rubbing your stomach, patting your head. And I don't know, trying to do leg lifts at the same time. But I was just like, wow.

What am I being asked to do? I nearly fell off of it. I don't even know what I said to him. Like, it was just a mess because I thought I just had to sit on the bike and do this interview. I didn't know I actually had to cycle, you know, and I've never gone back. Yeah.

That was also my only SoulCycle class too. I was like, that was so hard. I will say the music he chose was bang. And I do remember I was like, man, this is a DJ. This is some good music. Really? I blinked. I just, you know, I have no memory anymore of anything else. I was like, this is, this is too much. This has taken it too far.

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I have a question for you guys. When during the pandemic, when people started rewatching New Girl, some for the very first time, we didn't really we had Instagram in 2012, 2011, but it wasn't what it is now. Did you guys notice a huge uptick in followers or messages in your social media over these last few years? Because now this is a way for fans. Didn't that help you sign up, Lamorne? I feel like.

Didn't I help you? It was Hipstamatic. It wasn't even Instagram. Remember, wasn't it called Hipstamatic? Oh, I have no idea. It was. And it was like a little Polaroid looking camera was the app. It's what it looked like. Like that was the thumbnail. And it was, I think it was called Hipstamatic. And I think...

I don't know, but a few cast members literally signed up in that first year because we were like, I guess we should get this to maybe document and share. And no, we did not have a lot of followers to begin with. And then it just...

Oh, yeah. It shot up for sure. It skyrocketed because we were sharing things from the show. This is before you could do stories or anything. So it's just the grid. A picture. Just a picture and a caption. Yeah, that's right. I remember... The thing I remember about that moment was...

Them saying that we need you guys to get on social media and we need you to follow all these rules in order to get verified. Oh, yeah. The verification process was intense. I was like, what do you mean? What does that mean? Like, we know a guy. It's fine. We'll call someone. And I'm like, well, it's me. Well, how do we know it's you? Because I'm telling you it's me. Like, how do fans know it's you? It's a picture of me. It descended our driver's licenses, I think, to be like, to prove it was us to get verified. Yeah. I remember it. To get the blue check.

I mean, wasn't that a big thing? Oh, yeah. It was such a big thing. And somebody already had my name. And I remember I'd read some article, maybe it was in Glamour, about how Kanye West couldn't get his name either. And so he called his account the real Kanye West.

So I was like, oh, I guess that's what you do if somebody's already taken your name. And so that's why mine is still called the real Hannah Simone. That's all Yeezy. Yeezy taught me. Fun fact, Hannah and Yeezy had a long-term relationship. That's why he gave her these tips. He confuses me for Kim Kardashian. Well, Morton doesn't, so he likes to tell this story. And that is not true. That was not me. That is another woman.

That he married no children with. That is not me. We keep talking about this. That's not true. Same, same. Not true. Oh, my God. I just learned that thing about Instagram through an article. Listen, I think we all hit it off because me, Hannah and Zoe all had bangs. This is true. And that's why that's what that's my theory. I think there is truth to it. We were all babies with bangs trying to figure out this crazy industry.

I know. Lamar, when are you growing yours? Well, my hairline disagrees with me often. So sometimes it's normal. Sometimes it's LeBron James. So I don't quite know what it's doing, but I'm going to grow it out for a role or something. And then I'm going to put some dreadlocks that hang down here and then I'll bang those up.

You're going to live as flashback Winston. Yes. In your latter years. Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that too. Do you remember when we went on a date, Lamorne, for Glamour for the On a Date series and we went to this like Benihana type restaurant and I put you in a chef's hat at the, like, where they made, do you remember this? I remember it was off of Sunset, right? Yeah.

It was off of Sunset. But also, Hannah, this was the craziest thing. So we had this series called On a Date With. And I would take guys on a like fake date and we would find out and ask them all the questions that our readers would want to know. So since at the time, Lamorne and I lived like two minutes away from each other. It's like, I'll pick you up and we'll go to the restaurant.

He kept me waiting in the car for 20 minutes. I was so pissed heading into this fake date. I was like, would you do this on a real date? We're faking the girl. Do you remember this? I don't remember being late, but that's... He was late. That's kind of... Were you outside of my house? Uh-huh. And you know, I know what happened. I know exactly what happened. I can explain it to you. Oh, yes. Please explain. I was filming.

I was filming this charitable thing where I was just giving back to the community and the community needed me. Because the community needs a hero. That's where he's going to get us. Yeah. And I was just being a hero and I can't be in two places at once. I've tried.

I've tried it. Sometimes it can be done. I've literally praised you on this podcast today for learning to not lie when you feel panicked. You see what's happening right now? No, I'm just saying the city needed it. The city needed it here, Ohana. Your brand is late. The city needed me. He was playing basketball. That's what he was probably doing. This is also true. That's also plausible. You forgot.

Yeah. I apologize for that. You're so lovable that I, that I totally like, you know, once you get in the car, it's like, Oh, it's Lamorne. Like I just, I love this guy. Like whatever. But yeah. But here you had to make up this whole thing about how you were giving back to the community. And that's why I was sitting in, which is also funny because no one gives back to the community. Probably actually more than you. You're the most generous human ever.

So that's what I'm saying. It was probably me. I was probably passing out turkeys on Thanksgiving. But it was not in this scenario. I'm going to sit there and say it's a fact. I would know. Okay, Hannah. I can see your lion eyes. Wait, what's the best gift that you've ever received from Lamar and Hannah? The gift of friendship. Joking. I was going to say, I knew. I don't know. I do know, actually. Yeah.

I do know. Actually, I will say this. He gave me something I don't even know if I really want to share. It's private and very sweet. It was for a family member. It was just like, he's just so thoughtful. Lamorne is actually one of the most thoughtful gift givers that I've ever met. But I will say this is the greatest thing about being in a friendship with Lamorne. We've talked about this. Lamorne is the friend that shows up.

No matter what it is, if you have a birthday party, you have a book launch, if you whatever, having a dinner and your parents are coming and you're just like, I'm going to invite some friends. If you invite Lamorne, if he's not, you know, out of the city, he will always show up, which is like we that's like the opposite of me. It is.

That's not true. No, it's the opposite of me. I don't show up for anything, which I feel like is like, that's a good way to roll. Like if you're not going to show up, you can't show up for anything. Otherwise it looks like you're picking and choosing, but I'm such an introverted house cat. I don't, I just don't go out. So I'll be like, I love you, but you know, I'm not coming. And they're like, love you. We totally understand that about you, which is why we make such a funny pair. But that's one of my favorite things about Lamorne is that, you know, if you call him and say, can you come? He's always like, I got you. I'll be there. My bar mitzvah, Hannah,

Hannah was supposed to come and do a song. She didn't show up for that either. And she did pay. She had been paid. That's true. Kyle, what's the Jewish word for like grandma? Baba and Zeta? Nana? My Nana. Is Kyle answering you? Does Kyle know? Yeah, he knows, but he's pretending he doesn't because he's also Cuban. So he's like trying to get me Cuban. Like my Nana, my Baba. Is that a thing?

My nana, my bubby paid Hannah $45,000 to show up to my bar mitzvah and Hannah did not show up. Hannah, you want to explain? She went on a private show.

It's a different thing. You realize you guys could take this act on the road. You should go to bar and bat mitzvahs all over the country, especially since these young 13-year-olds are watching New Girl now on Hulu. It's a comeback. It's a comeback. You guys should just go. You could make so much money this way. I'm trying to tell her. Really. Well, I'm there. I think we just hired a manager. I don't know what just happened, but Jessica, you're hired.

yeah if you could set that up focus on the bar mitzvah tours that's what we'll do we'll go on a tour around America and I'll just I'll let you guys run loose at the bar mitzvahs all of our podcast lives will happen at bar mitzvahs this is what's happening we figured it out when everyone's like is there a reunion we'll be like we're busy you want to go on tour Jessica you want to go on tour with us

Yes, and then I'll write the book with you guys in between the bar and bat mitzvah celebration. By the way, this is not a terrible idea that we go on tour and do this live. And Jessica, you come along with us. Right. I'm very into this. I like this. Yes. And then Lamor's going to make grilled cheese sandwiches for us, too. I like to see him plan all of this. We're done. You guys trying to get paid? Wait, did you also ever wear the backpack that Zoe gave you? Yes. I used to travel with it. The sparkly one? Mm-hmm. I used to travel with it.

Did you really? It's a good hand-me-down for Lily, but it's a sparkly backpack. Yeah. I'm still, listen, I'm a LeBron fan. Was that pillow still over there? I'm a LeBron fan. Like, I, people think this is a joke. It's not a joke. No, it's not. You love, you are obsessed with him. LeBron and Beyonce.

Yeah. Beyonce has since written a letter telling me to stop contacting her and this is illegal. And I was like, all right, I get it. What is on that pillow? Oh, Jesus. It's LeBron. LeBron James. Hear that? Just in case you sleep like this. It's a little scary. It looks like a potato that you drew on. You know? It looked like Wayne Brady for a while. Do you keep that out when girls come over? Yeah. I got to get them excited somehow.

We're going to do a walkthrough of the house and just start watching you. Wow, okay. They see LeBron and they go, ooh, and I go, surprise, it's me. And they go, oh, I guess. Oh, I guess. Oh, my God. Cool. She loves me. Oh, my.

God. Is this what you expected, Jessica, when you got to hang out with us today? I honestly had no expectations. This is the right move. No expectations. This could go off the wall. Wait, what would you, wait, I want to play interviewer for a second. And I'm very curious, knowing what you all do now, what would you go back and tell yourselves at the beginning of your first day on set?

I would tell myself that you're not going to get fired. So be bold. Facts. Be big and be weird starting day one. Yeah, that's true. Facts. I think it's so funny. So many people tell you that from the beginning. Oh, I know this person who joined the show or joined a show. And then they got fired after the first season. And so you really are just trying to not screw up.

Right. So deeply that it almost inhibits you. And as we've been doing this rewatch, we kind of watch ourselves and go like, man, I wish I leaned into that more. I wish I had gotten a little weirder in this thing, but that's what the, that's what's missing. I feel like now in TV is a lot of shows aren't given the gift of time to figure it out. And so new girl, I mean, yeah, it came out hot and that first season is amazing and

And we got better and better and better just because we as actors could feel more comfortable. And then we knew that we were solid in our jobs. And that all of a sudden gave us massive freedom. It also let our real life friendships like deepen. Yeah.

which means we had so much more trust and like knowing what the other person was going to do. And I feel like that's, what's really just changed in the state of television is that a lot of shows aren't given the gift of time. Right. They film a whole season at once before it comes out. Right. They don't get that privilege to watch it somewhat in real time. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I am curious though, too, because, um,

As I noticed in rewatching things, the dialogue was so fast paced. And you guys, you had to keep up with it because that's how these scenes worked so well. How did you memorize your lines? How hard was that for you? Did you have any tricks? For me, mine is just, my mnemonic device is just repetition. That's what it would be. It was, I would sit down with a friend of mine and we would just

Go over it and go over it, go over it. And I would only do that the night before. So I wouldn't spend so much... Yeah, the night before. And I would just get it so I was just off book that I would run it without the script one time. If I can land it verbatim one time...

without the script, I stop right there. And then I don't look at it again until we rehearse the next morning because I want it to feel somewhat fresh. And I want to leave room for improv because we improvise a lot on the show. So I want to leave room where I'm not so glued to the words also because Liz changes things on the fly. And you get there sometimes day of, the pages are slightly different.

And it's harder to unmemorize. Once it's locked in your brain and they change three words, that's actually, I find trickier. Oh, yeah. Than to sit there and just to learn it fresh. I do remember many times sitting in the hair and makeup chairs next to each other, running lines with each other just to help each other out. Even if it wasn't in your scene or whatever, could you just help me? Or going into Lamorne's trailer because we shared like a double trailer. So I'd go into his side.

and running lines if we needed to, it was for a bigger scene. I do that. We were all very helpful with each other. We all really were team show. And that I think is what was really helpful. We also knew that there was a lot of dialogue and fast dialogue and it would change. So we gave each other, I think like a lot of help and a lot of grace around it to find it because things would change so often. So yeah,

That was really nice. There wasn't a lot of impatience within the cast. I think if it took you a second to figure it out or to remember it, we had each other's backs in a real way when it came to like learning lines or like pitching each other jokes for improv.

telling people what could be funny to try it out. That was also really nice. It was super supportive that way. Oh, yeah. So it made it easy. There was no pressure to be off book. The only person I would say who had somewhat that amount of pressure was Max Greenfield. Because the Schmidt character had a lot of big monologues with specific words and things that were only directly related to Schmidt. So, you know, a lot of us would have a lot of

overlap with isms and things that we would say, but Schmidt dialogue was very specific to him and no one else would speak that way. So he had to, he would have to be off book and he would improvise a lot too, but a lot of it for him, I would say most of it was him having to be word perfect with some of these

- Like all the Romney children. I remember that he had to like list all of them. And I remember him getting so frustrated because it's not something that you can improv around, right? You had to know it and say it super fast, couched in all this other dialogue and story that you had to give.

But then that's where the rest of us have to just there be like patient and supportive and given the time and space to get there because he probably got handed that the night before or the morning of, and it's a lot to get stuck in your brain. So, I mean, that's just a credit to him. - And to watch him get frustrated when he didn't was still, to this day is still one of my favorite things to witness. 'Cause when Max gets frustrated off of his own dialogue,

He'll go, he'll screw up his line. He'll let him work through it. Just let him work through it. Get to the other side. What did he do? He will just look at it. He will just look at the floor and go, damn it, Max. Damn it, Max. He's so upset with himself. Oh my God. But it was such a loose and fun set that there was no pressure in it. He was, Max is like,

He's a Schmidt, he's one of the best TV characters of all time. So it's great to see that he took it seriously. But we were all just having fun. - But that's family too, right? You know what I mean? We're like, "Oh, there he is, he's getting annoyed at himself. Okay, everybody just give him a second, he'll be fine." Again, the gift of time. That's what I always talk about with New Girl. I feel like that was one of the greatest things. They just let us... People have favorite seasons, stronger seasons, stronger episodes.

And we just knew that like our life didn't hang in the balance with it. We just kind of knew that we were going to keep going. And that is why like the fandom and the journalists that supported us and kept like giving it all this information and behind the scenes stories to the fans is really like the foundation of this show. Because without that support and the cry for more episodes and the cliffhangers and people just writing throughout the summer, what's going to happen next? What does season three look like?

That's how we knew we could have that job security. So, so much of it is in people like you. So thanks, Jessica. Thank you very much. We appreciate you. I appreciate you guys. I truly do.

love you both so much. The others, you know, it's, I'm kidding. But no, there's always been, but seriously, there's always been something so special about the two of you, but all of you too, because yeah, we did all come up together, I feel like. And it was just, it was so fun. Also, this show was the perfect audience for Glamour. Like,

It just like it was everything that we covered was everything that we talked about. And it was just so nice to see it play out in such a fun, but also heartfelt way. Right. That's what people want.

So I'm glad that people watch it now on Hulu. And I do want there to be another season because you guys haven't aged. So, you know, really. Just saying. I'm still 27. Oh, okay. So thank you. I just, you know, life. Am I right? I mean, Ferguson probably looks...

his age now. That boy got a walker and everything. Just a little gray cat crawling through. That's what it'll be. Well, Jessica, thank you. Thank you very much. Oh my goodness. Very, very much so for being here. That's the show, folks. So go to our website, check out our merch. You can follow us on Instagram, The Mess Around Pod. If you have a question, you want to leave us a voicemail, et cetera, et cetera, feel free to email us at themessaroundpod at gmail.com.

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