Loft Meeting: June Diane Raphael aka Dr. Sadie!
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Today, we are having a loft meeting with the June Diane Raphael, a.k.a. Dr. Sadie. She was a dear friend of Jess and Cece, a gynecologist, and most importantly, a lesbian. She was featured in seasons one, two, three, and six, doing a total of eight episodes, and one of the most beloved characters of the New Girl universe. Hi.

Hi. Hi. It's so funny because I will say that I get recognized from New Girl more than you would think. And I'm always like, I don't look, my hair's so different. I feel like I don't look like the same person who was on that show, played Dr. Sadie. But the number of times and in the randomest places, I'm like,

Someone will come up to me and say and catch my eye from across. It happened. We were at global entry flying back into the country and someone shouted from like lines over Dr. Sadie. And I was like, hi. But it's it is.

Well, I don't have to tell you all, but wow, the power of New Girl. Yeah, what really shocked me was that when it aired, it was like, you know, there was a frenzy around it when it happened. But then during, you know, COVID, it moved to Netflix. And that's where, yeah. Yeah, and then all of a sudden, this whole new crop of fans kind of showed up because they thought it was a new Netflix show.

And they were consuming it, not week to week over eight years, like in a weekend. Yeah. Yeah. And so it was like this thing just were living with us so deeply and then repeating the show. It became this comfort show so people share with us. And so I can imagine all of a sudden, like Dr. Sadie is like back in these streets. Yeah.

She is. And I, that's so fascinating how that happens. I mean, I have been, I was on a Netflix series for seven, almost eight years. And so I do understand the power of Netflix because it's, it's really, and how people consume it is so different from how like you and I watched TV that it's

Like that consumption and how people just get it in their bones. It's just different than waiting a week, catching a rerun.

You know, it's like you are with your shows in a different, in a more intimate way. I mean, it changed, to be honest with you, like how I started watching TV during like COVID when we were all kind of locked down is I started to within with shows that were airing week to week. I would wait.

It's terrible to say out loud, but I would wait until they were like on the streaming service and then I could watch it in a night like a movie. Yeah. Yeah. I understand. You don't have to. To me. I was just sort of like people like, are you watching? I was like, no, don't tell me anything. Don't be a terrible human. Don't spoil it. I have to wait two months to watch it in the night. I will watch it when it's fully cooked. That's exactly right. Which means all of the episodes are available to me. That's right.

That's right. Which then became the most annoying thing when it would be like previously, you know, last week I was like, get out of here with that noise. I was here one second ago. You're wasting my time. It is. It's a, it's a different, it's, it is a different beast. And it's amazing though, how shows can get new lives. And it's very, I think it's, I think that piece of it is, is so wonderful. Yeah.

Yeah. In terms of like audience reach. It's, it's really very cool. Yeah. I mean, you know, doing new girl was such a wonderful experience for me. And so it's kind of nice that we get to do this podcast now where we get to kind of walk down memory lane and relive it and learn all the stuff that we genuinely didn't know because we were so in it. It was super intense. I watched each episode as it came out, but I've never rewatched it. Like,

Like I've never done it. And now we are. And we're like, one, this is actually like a pretty good show. We're like, okay, we kind of get it now. And when we get to talk to everybody and learn, especially learn like how people, we got these incredible people like yourself, like how they got onto the show, like what was their path?

And some of the paths have been so surprising to us. We had no idea. So what was yours? How did you find your way to Dr. Sadie? I was thinking about it. And Hannah, of course, you know, as I head into a perimenopause, like the brain's getting foggier. Yeah. So put that disclaimer on that episode.

Like woman is entering into a new hormonal phase, forgetting things. So it's like, I don't know if it's long COVID, I don't know if it's menopause, but things are falling away at a rapid rate. But I knew I was coming on to talk to you today and I was like, oh, I have this memory of auditioning

Now, this could be wrong, but I have a memory of auditioning two times for two different roles. Now, what they were, I don't know. I feel like one was maybe the Lizzie Kaplan role. Oh, yeah, I can see that. But I don't know if that makes sense with season one, because I know it was season one. You're cracking me up right now, because this is exactly...

how I talk. I'm always like, listen, I'm going to do my best. I'm going to tell you everything as truthfully as I can. It may be a complete lie. And it may all be wrong. It may all be wrong. I may be fully making this up, but I think this is how it goes. But what's troubling too is like, it's either...

so truthful that you're going to be like your savants and have a photographic memory or it's like I'm talking about a different show. That's right. It's going to be so right or so wrong. Yeah. But I believe...

that I auditioned for maybe it was one of Max's girlfriends on the show. I know I went in two other times for two different roles. And the casting director, please remind me who it was. Anya? Yes. It was Anya? It was Anya, of course. And the audition was, you know, sometimes you just have a good experience. You know? Rarely. But sometimes, and God, I haven't been in a room in so long now. It's like not how it's done anymore. But sometimes,

Sometimes you just, there's an ease to it. And I always, I felt both times that I auditioned, like, oh, the writing is in my body. Like I didn't, it wasn't work to learn it, integrate it. You know, it was easy both times, which I think is always the sign of good writing. When you really have to like muscle to memorize lines, I'm always like, this, this is not the way people talk.

So anyway, I had auditioned twice, didn't get either role. And then I believe, again, could be so true and could be nothing but false. But what I believe to be true, in this house, we believe that... That...

I was then offered Dr. Sadie after having done like what I think was a good job with both of those auditions. So anyway, so I believe that is what happened that I was then given, you know, offered the role, which at that time in my career was such a big deal.

i was about to say wow that's what that's so wild to me right because i feel like maybe not true you know if it's that wild it's probably not true no i believe it though i believe it because i do feel like that's like the gift of like a great those great casting directors and anya's one of them where they go like we get it we know what they're capable of we don't need to do the dance we need to fill this role we have the person and then they can they take that leap of trust

But I do feel like unless you were like some mega A-list star, it was quite rare at that time to just like get an offer unless you were like fully established. Well, you know what's the story of my career? And I say this without any shame. I'm thrilled about this is that

My career has been built on people, other actresses who are our bigger names, dropping out literally the day before for unforeseen circumstances. And me getting a call, like, basically, can you show up tomorrow at 6 a.m.? And I'm always like, yes. And then I get the job. So it's, you know...

Again, and I have been very happy to get jobs that way. You know, that is not a problem for me, but I don't think that's what happened here. I think I genuinely, shockingly, I think I had been in contention for several other guest stars and on the show and didn't get them. And then they were like, well...

She could do this. I'd have to ask Les Merriweather, but I believe that's what happened. It was so early on. I mean, here's the cool thing. And this is why I hold the experience near and dear to my heart. It was very interesting to be on a show. Yes, it would go on to become such a huge hit, but there was so much buzz around it. There was so much expectation there.

It was like this. It was just a very cool show to be on. And I remember being there and feeling like, oh, wow, this is an intense environment. I don't use the word intense in a negative way. I just mean it was like it felt like everybody knew that this was something. Yeah.

It's funny. People talk about that, about how they came on set and the whole thing just felt like very like electric. Yes. Like it felt like this weird lightning in a bottle thing that was happening and it was exciting and you got to be part of it. And it's funny because Lamorne and I talk about it, right? Like for me and for him too, it was like our first real experience. Yes.

And then there had been people who had been in the game longer than us and who had had a variety of experiences. And I remember Max saying to us, going, yeah, it's not all like this. Just so you know. Soak it up. Because this is not how it's always like when you get on a set or you book a job or it's a show. But for us, it's like when it's all you know.

So in the weirdest way, we didn't feel it as much for him and I, because it was our first experience. So everything was just new. The learning curve was steep, but it took, I would say, a couple years for us to fully understand that we are in this very rare moment.

And I remember having a moment sitting on like that brown couch, the new girl couch. I don't know if you ever have this feeling in your life or whatever where you're, I just remember sitting there and whenever they're setting up a scene and I was like, I'm here right now.

And at some point, this is all going to go away. At some point, inevitably, the show will end. It's not going to run for like 9,000 years. And I was like, but it's happening now. I'm here right now. And really trying to like watch like our first AD running around like yelling, you know, we're yelling for something, need to move faster. And like all of the little things that were happening and just trying to like really like observe it. And I just remember it really clear. Yeah.

And that was like maybe a couple years in though. But a lot of people who had been in the industry longer were just like, oh no, when you walked on that set, you knew this is something unique. Yes. And my first day on set was not on the Fox lot. It was on location. Um,

I mean, maybe the base camp was, but we went to this weird office building because it was a scene that took place in my office where I was checking out Jake Johnson for something. I don't remember what it was. And Zoe had brought him to me. Is this the cancer episode? And you're like, I'm a gynecologist. Yes. Yes.

Sir. Right. Got it. Got it. But that scene, well, first of all, was directed by Lynn Shelton. May she rest in peace. And I was so excited to work with her because I had seen Hump Day only weeks earlier, which is a movie she directed and wrote and was in, I believe. And I thought she was a genius. And so I was so excited to work with her that

And I knew Jake from UCB, so the Upright Citizens Brigade Theater. And I don't think he and I had ever necessarily like improvised together, but I knew him from kind of improv community in LA. And I just remember doing that scene and feeling like, oh, this isn't true of every set. Oh, Zoe wants me to be funny.

hmm she wants me to do well lynn wants me to do well jake wants me to do well like there was this nobody was squashing my creative instincts and i think i had i think that i you know had also in the rehearsal or whatever improvised and i think they realized like oh let her do what she not what she whatever she wants but there was a spirit of like

okay, if you can beat this or if you can make this better than do it, you know, and it was really thrilling to be a part of something like that where it felt like, no, the best thing wins, not just the most important person in this room gets to decide. So yeah, I was really like struck by that and yeah,

I mean, the character's so not me, but I loved playing that kind of like dry, understated and, you know, it was just so much fun. But yeah, that was my first experience. And I thought, oh, I guess that I did that. And I'll, you know, I'll never be seen or heard from. I mean, I think don't we all feel that way as actors? Like, oh, I just finished this job. I'll never be seen or heard from.

I'll never work again. Right. That's how we feel all the time. That's, that was nice. And that's a wrap on me, you know, it's a self wrap. So I'm just going to get in my car, drive up the lot. Yeah. And I'll, I'll drive out to another state and open up a flower shop. But that's, that life is done. That's it. You know? And, and it's one of the, it's one of the crazy things about being an actor. And, um,

But yeah, then I was like so happy to come back and to, you know, get to do more scenes. It's one of my, you do two of my favorite scenes. One where Schmidt shows up to ask...

If he's good at sex. Yes. And he's explaining all the things and it's, and it's turning you on to this insane level, but also you're so angry because it's a man that's doing it. And the way you are in that scene, even now it'll make me cry. Cause I was, I, cause again, I haven't rewatched the show. So I get to watch it just like a fan now because I'm so far from it. And I,

And I was like in tears because that level, it's only a real woman can understand that.

To be turned on beyond a point where you're not in control of the feeling, but also a very entitled and appropriate rage towards this man. This person, yeah. Those two truths can be true in that moment, and you play it so beautifully and so funny. It's one of my favorite. And the other is when you're...

I feel like you're in the Bachelorette episode and you're just hitting on everybody and being like wildly out of pocket and would be fully canceled. - Yes, well, I had the experience I think of being pregnant. My character, Dr. Sadie was pregnant 'cause Kate Cannon was my wife's last girlfriend. But then I think I was actually pregnant

for the last, one of the last times I, you know, you know what I realized, Hannah, as I was sitting here, they actually did ask me to come back for the like finale finale. And I remember being asked to get on a horse. It was a day on a horse in Malibu. Do you, is this ringing a bell? No. Okay. I remember being told maybe they rewrote this. Maybe it wasn't at all the last script. We haven't gotten there yet. We're only on season two. Yeah.

I'm re-watching this in like real time as we go. That's so funny. That's so fun. Okay. So, well, whatever, whatever the scene was, I really wanted to be in the, I was like so excited, you know, but I had just had a C-section and I remember you and I were talking about motherhood before we started and the podcast. And I remember having that moment of being like,

do I just try to do it? Do I, 'cause I think as an actor in this industry, there's the constant battle as a mom of, or at least I feel, speak for myself, of like, what do I give to this town of myself? Because it's often taking away something from my kids.

Um, what do I, where will I travel to? What will I, what kind of hours will I work? When I was breastfeeding and all that, like what kind of setting is this to even make it possible, um, to work? And, you know, I mean, New Girl had some intense hours and I know there were parents on that show. And I thought about that quite a bit because it's one of the things that I feel like

our industry is so behind on where we, you know, we have intimacy coordinators and Me Too certainly opened huge conversations and tackled so much. And also our industry does not acknowledge the amount of labor women do in terms of primary caretaking and their children and the hours that parents, I mean, I'll say parents across the board put in

You know, I've seen actresses literally like walk off sets because they were having like mental breakdowns from being away from their kids, not having seen their kids in five days and they live in the same house. You know how difficult it can be. And so this is like a constant battle and it certainly was. It's easier for me now because I've been –

able to get clear on a lot of these things and what, you know, my priorities are. And, but at the same time, like we've been through two major labor movements and work is work. And I, you know, people also need to work. And so, but I think there's so many strides that our industry needs to take when it comes to

parenting, especially mothers on sets, reasonable work hours, et cetera, because it is like, especially for new moms, it becomes a mental health issue. But at that time, so when I was offered to come back, I remember staring at the email, my agent calling me and I was like, I'm still in like the pair kind of diapers that the mesh underwear. Yeah.

The beloved Cedars-Sinai mesh undies. I loved those. I'm still in my mesh undies. I am on some serious pain meds. I have been told I cannot pick up my toddler. Yeah, right. I don't know if I should get on a horse. Now, again, what the scene was, what's coming to mind. And so anyway, long story short, I said no. And I'm like,

Yeah, I remember being like, okay, I have two kids now and I'm saying no. Now that I guess maybe it was a clearer decision because it's like, well, I just, I don't think I can physically do it. But, you know, these are the things that mothers really, especially when so much work is out of LA now, that we really contend with. And, yeah.

In an industry that's so competitive and we're told to just be so grateful to get any job, it's hard. Man, it is hard. And I have been lucky to work in LA for so many years. We'll need to travel a bit. Don't you feel though there's like a shift though that happens with work when your priorities shift in your own life where so many of those jobs then come from relationships? Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like from relationships and from people you can speak to really honestly and then you can like kind of work around what is the best for what you're trying to balance in your work life family balance like we had this conversation many times on Not Dead Yet though show I did with Gina because she did first season pregnant second season with a new baby and

And it's so funny because you can understand it intellectually. Like if you're listening to this and you don't have kids, you can get it and you can see that this is not a fair situation for mothers that are working. But then to have your baby and then to be on set, it's like a whole new way because now you're experiencing it and you're living it. And I remember the shock that Gina was in and the big moves that her and I worked together on to just like,

make sure that everybody was feeling safe and good and we truly knew what was important and not feeling like we had to apologize or feel guilty for asking to take that like right time and space. And it felt like nothing had changed, you know, from, you know, decades ago. So, yeah.

It's challenging and it really does become about like your own personal boundaries and about having to say no. I remember watching all those specials. Remember on like E where I was like, where are they now? And then they're just talk about some like sitcom actress or whatever. And they're just like, and she just disappeared. Nobody knows. And I'm like, no, she just, she had no choice. I know.

I bet I know where she went. She had to raise her children and you didn't create a space for her to be able to work in a way that was like where she could survive as a human. So she had to make the choice. She didn't want to stop working, but the work environment is not built for mothers, especially of young children. So it's, it is interesting. It's funny because it says here, I'm reading my notes that you are in season seven, which is our final season. Yeah.

okay so maybe they shifted it or moved it or changed it to be like okay so how do we because i feel like liz is such a special wonderful human that probably was like oh okay if that if she had that information like june physically cannot do this the mesh will not allow and so did she come back okay so here's what i remember i shot something because i was actually in boston shooting something else and

I believe that I shot something on my iPhone that was going to be shown in the... Okay, so that was used. But...

Interesting. I get it. Maybe what it was was maybe it was season six. That would make more sense. I don't know. Wasn't there something where like they thought this show was going to end one season earlier? Yeah, I think that's what it was. And it was done and they were racing to shoot this coda because they're like, I guess we got canceled. And they were just like, we need to wrap up a whole series of this beloved show. Bonkers. Bonkers.

And then all of us just had to sit and write letters begging for a few episodes so that we could close out the series with some respect and like really like that wild. Yes, it is wild. Okay. This is all coming back to me. So scary. Liz Merriweather is going to fact check me. Yeah, no, I think it was something like that where I, I, I,

God, why do I remember being asked to be on a horse? You know, that's too specific for me to have like wildly made up. But yeah, it's so true. I mean, it is the same. Listen, it's the same reason why, you know, the women who do run for office either don't have small children or...

you know, are old enough that they have children who are out of the house and don't have those like primary caretaking needs anymore. This is a reality where you see men. Listen, I saw a lot of men on your show have small children and work those hours. Okay. So it's just a different beast. Yeah. And it, we are, this is the last thing I'll say about it, but we are supposed to be

if you look at the trajectory of how much money women make, we will make the most money when we have our first children. And just timing wise, right? And women are having children later and later. And that's a trend that's probably only going to continue. We're not going to go back to having kids when we're 21. Most women are now waiting. But when we put all of that investment of our 20s and sometimes half of our 30s into our career, right?

you know, we, at the exact moment, we should start to see the fruits of it is when we're having our first children. And so then we wonder why are there no C-suite level women? Why are there no, you know, up and down the ballot? There aren't enough. It's like, well,

Well, it's motherhood, dummies. You know what I mean? And if we don't make those adjustments, if we don't change the infrastructure and rebuild it so that it's there to support women of small children, it's never going to change. Yeah. I'm done. I'm going to stop recording. I'm going to get out of here. So all we have to do is change the infrastructure. Yeah.

Yeah, it's so simple. It's so simple. And rebuilds and rebuilds. I have to ask you these wonderful questions that came in from fans. We've gotten so many questions over our two seasons of doing this podcast about Dr. Sadie. Like, I know you feel it. Yeah. Facts.

There's something, I think, because she can be so scathing. And then when she's drunk, she's just so wildly inappropriate that people love her. And again, because she stayed in the universe, right? She just kept coming back and showing up and had these inappropriate, super funny moments. They've become iconic forever.

So I'm going to read you some of these questions from our beloved fans. So I love the episode Bachelorette Party where Sadie encourages Cece to pin the dong on Shafrang. How do you feel about Bachelorette Parties? Is there a game you love? And then they say, we're such a big fan of your podcast. How did this get made? How did you get started on that project? Two separate things.

Well, I mean, I haven't been to a bachelor party in a long time. I feel like that, you know, I'm now sort of in the age of divorce. Divorce parties. Divorce parties. Yeah. Like I'm no longer in the age of like my friends getting married, which is nice. But I don't love a party with a game, but I do love a party. I do feel like you need a stripper.

You do. You know, you need someone, man, woman, otherwise, to take their clothes off and to pay good money to see that. And you can call me whatever you want to call me, but I...

that that is something for the first night of a bachelorette party that like you need to have lift off, you know, to set the tone. I just want to say the way you're even saying this right now, the tone of voice, it just sounds like full Dr. Sadie. And it's like, and so since no one's here, that person will be me. And so here we go. It feels like, are you going to take your clothes off? This is a podcast. Yeah.

It's true though. It's like you do need, it's such a shocking thing to witness when someone does it. But I, you know, I support sex workers of all kinds, dancers, exotic dancers. And, you know, listen, the one thing I'll say is like, let's come prepared with our ones and our tips and, you know, pay a man and pay a woman for a man's work and a woman's work. Yeah.

I will never forget being in college and a bunch of girlfriends were like, hey, do you want to go to girls night at some whatever bar it was? And I just assumed a bit like us girls were going out. Like I just moved from India to like North America. So I was just like, okay, great. And so we went. And all my girls were there. It was like dollar high balls. So we're just like. Oh boy. Yeah. Having a couple of drinks. And these really.

I didn't clock it because I was just like happy to be there. And it was all women. It was only women there. And then like four lovely gentlemen like walked up to our table. They were like in suits, like looking very nice. And were chatting to us and being really sweet. And this one guy was talking about how he wanted to study like, I don't know, like biology and like go to university and study biology. And I was just like, oh.

He kind of wandered off. And then they were talking to other people. I didn't really. And then all of a sudden, like the lights went out. One light came up. And then they all walked out. Buck ass naked. Totally naked. With rings on their things. And we're doing like one arm pushups. And I remember I screamed. Yeah. That's. Yeah. And ran to the back wall. Turned around like full Blair Witch Project. And just went. He. You don't learn biology.

this? What's happening? And I had no idea that, that, that, that. And then what was the crazy thing is after the, these wonderful dancing and athletic things happened with these very beautiful men with their beautiful bodies. Um, they just like, then we're gone. And then they open like a door and then like a hundred men just come in, you know, who've been all like captive

Wow. So it's first two hours is ladies' night. This is a production. They give you dollar highballs. Then they bring out these naked men. Then the naked men go away. Then the drink prices go up. And then these are civilians. And then they release the hounds. And you're just like, ah! And then I remember calling my boyfriend at the time, and I was like, girls' night's gone wrong. Please pick me up. I don't know what's happening. Yeah.

It's not a bachelorette party, but it feels like it had the elements of surprise and trauma that usually accompany it. So they're sort of just hoping, okay, like we'll get the ladies drinking and then the ladies are going to, because they've been amped up by these men, they're going to be so psyched to see 100 men come.

Not realizing like that's every woman's nightmare. This is a nightmare. You've released us into like the lion's den and like closed the doors. Like the whole thing was so... Oh, God. It's a really... So my boyfriend, I remember, pulled up in his truck. He, by the way, had no idea that what this was. He just thought like, oh, she wants to come home. Fine. Super sweet guy. He pulls up in his truck. I get in the truck and he handed me a purple popsicle. I'll never forget that. And I was like...

I was so young. I was just like, I can't.

I'm not. And then I remember we did Bachelorette Party where it was like all this penis stuff on set and it was constant. Yeah. Right. And Dr. Sadie's like up for it and just being wild. And I remember I had to do very little acting in that because I just remembered that night where I'm like, this is everything about this makes me uncomfortable. Everybody just keep your clothes on. Have a seat. Listen, but there's always that person. And that's I love that episode is like there's always that person who's too into it.

You know, who's too excited to have strippers. That's usually me anyway. And then there's the person who's like, I have to leave. Like it's like having a fucking mental breakdown when the strippers arrive. So it's like you, you always, you know, there, there's always a sort of a mixed bag. Now I will say the one thing I've noticed at bachelorette parties is the moment that

I mean, the reveal of the stripper when like someone's delivering a pizza or someone's, you know, calling to see like if they're the hotel TV is working or whatever that misdirect is, is always fun. And then all of a sudden, like someone brings out a boombox. You just said that. And I think, like you said earlier on this podcast, I might be making this up. Sure. But I think it's true that at my mom's bachelorette party,

It was getting like out of hand. It was like on a rooftop and it was getting like, you know, like loud as an out of hand, just like singing, dancing, like everybody's having a good time. And the cops came and I feel like it just was real cops, but the women went up. That's hilarious. Like they went up.

They got excited. And then strippers, a stripper did come after, but after the real cops and then got like no response when he walked in. I feel like that that happened. That's really funny. Now I have to text my mom. Yeah. And if it didn't, you need to write that into something. That's so funny.

Yeah, they went up and then they were really just getting told off and then they all just sat there and then the real stripper showed up dressed like a cop. And then everyone was just sort of like, look, we try. We're being quiet. Leave us alone. I'm so sorry. We'll figure this out. And the guy's like, Well, so what I was going to say is that the thing that I have noticed, and I don't know if there's anything to do about this, but a lot of times after the fun has been had, um,

And the ones have come out and the routine is over and it's really uncomfortable to then watch our professional dancer stripper

have to A, collect the ones on the ground. That's never gonna be easy to sit through. And then also grab what is usually a black duffel bag and either put their clothes on in front of you or go into a bathroom to do it. Those moments are hard. And I've survived. I want a t-shirt. I've lived through...

Who lived through watching a male stripper. Even you talking about it, you just heard about my experience at Girls' Night. I feel hives forming on my body. I just had another moment. This I do know happened. I remember this was the power of the little mouse or something thinking that she can overcome the elephant or whatever. It's

I remember them all. I remember hearing women chanting, take it off. And I remember in my Blair Witch pose, like, and turn to the wall, going like, you know, keep it on. Seeing if it could like get so true. It's so sad. So sad. Then me with my purple popsicle later. And then my boyfriend being like, so how was it? Was it fun hanging out with the girls? I was like, I can talk about it. I'm so scared.

Okay, another question. It's not everybody's bag. Not my bag. But I realize you and I are now learning that we're like the yin to each other's yang. Yes, absolutely. I feel like we would be great. We would find a nice middle. Yes, we would. And I would save you from some things and you would push me to maybe like open my eyes and turn around.

You never know. Okay, this question is from Erica from Philadelphia. She says, one of the most underrated characters on New Girl was Sadie. Not only was she super funny, but she was able to help Cece through a really difficult fertility scare as a professional.

I always wish we'd had more of Sadie through the series. Were there talks of bringing in June Diane Raphael more? If she came back in a reboot, what do you think Sadie would be doing now? All we get all day long is questions of reunion. Is there a reunion? I bet. Is there a reunion? And I think about what would the most beloved characters, if we did a reunion, be doing? It's so funny, though, because I think people think they want a reunion. But...

And that's one exception to that. I'm very much so a fan of And Just Like That. I really enjoyed the spinoff. It is a different... I view it and I know a lot of people have a lot of feelings about it, but I personally, like, I very much so enjoy that show. And I'm like, this is a reboot. Or not a reboot. This is a...

That show, what that, and I'm framing my answer to this question thinking about and just like that, because the truth is not every character made it back onto the show. Okay. Big was on and then killed off immediately.

And what I loved about that is like, okay, if you do imagine characters or people and you cut to 15 years into the future or whatever, not every relationship stands. Right. People die. You know, like...

And in particular, it's what I love about it. Just like that is it's like it. Yeah. Samantha. Am I? No. You know, the real reasons why she's not back and the feud or whatever. But the truth is, I see you. I see that makes sense to me that Samantha and Carrie are no longer friends, like that they had a major falling out. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's what happens in life.

Not everything moves forward. New Girl had that thing, right, where they were really authentic with their relationships, with their friendships. Like people, you know, it was easier for them to have like physical intimacy before emotional intimacy. Like they didn't do like the usual formula on a lot of things, which is why I think it rang true, right? So what you're saying, I think has a lot of merit because if we came back and we rebooted the show,

There would have to be some real authentic shifts that would happen with that kind of time span. So one, who do you think we'd have to kill? Two, which relationship would be done? The will they won't they is gone. They won't. And three, what is Sadie doing? I don't know that I could kill anyone. I'm just a guest star. That's not really my...

I don't have that kind of power. I wouldn't dare kill any of the series regulars. Honestly, I can't believe and I love him so much. But actually, I don't know that Jake, I don't know that he, now I'm not going to say his character dies, but I could see him, I could see sort of a tragic end. You know?

But something like this is actually my fear. I always felt scared that I'll die in a way that's so dumb that people will have a hard time grieving me because they'll be like, oh, we're so sad. What a devastating loss. But also like, what the fuck was she thinking? You know what I mean? And like something like that could have happened to him or Max, you know, where it's like it could be a really funny thing.

opening to the, to the spinoff or have you watched bad sisters? No. Is that what happens? Bad sisters, um, which Brett Baron, Dave Finkel, um,

or a part of, just watch the opening scene. I recommend it to everybody. It starts with a funeral. It's not giving anything away. But one of the best and funniest openings. Like how to do comedy and death perfectly. Oh, wonderful. I have to see it. Well, you know, it's Sharon Horgan who's my absolute favorite. I can't believe I haven't seen it. Sometimes it's hard for me to get to Apple TV and I don't know why. Yeah.

but it's hard for me to find my way there. I got you. I don't know what Dr. Sadie would be up to. I have to imagine that, you know, she probably had a mental breakdown during COVID. You know, so many healthcare professionals did. I think that maybe she's still recovering from that. I guess she has a baby now. I don't think that she and Kay Cannon made it, you know, the long haul. Yeah.

Maybe there's some custody issues. See, every picture I'm going to have is so dark and so upsetting. Like it's not going to be what you want. We found you on a day. We really found you on a day today. Honestly, like I think that Dr. Sadie is maybe sober, but know that it took a while to get there. Yeah.

Okay. And it won pretty. Journey. By the way, this show I would watch. Whatever is Dr. Sadie's journey was, I mean. It was not easy. Yeah. Okay. And boy, rock bottom. I feel like she tried her hand at stripping. I can just see the duffel bag in Dr. Sadie's hand. It used to be like her medical bag, her medical equipment bag. Oh my God. Now her little nurse's outfit has just got like a whole different meaning.

Yeah. You know, Dr. Sadie's like a onion. Like who knows? She could have gone so many different ways. Yeah. But was there, yeah. I will. I always say like, I think I said this to Kay too. When we did the eggs episode, it was a very pivotal episode in my real life. Cause we were all, I feel like you were sitting with us on the back of this golf cart. She was talking about how she,

She knew that her husband was the one. And I was like, how do you know? I was dating a guy at the time. I do remember being in this conversation. Yes, go on though. Yeah, I remember because she said, you know, when you look into the eyes of your boyfriend or your partner and you can see your children's faces. You can see what your babies will look like. And I remember being like, oh.

And going home to my boyfriend, who I really cared for at the time, and being like, like, it felt like the end of like, you know, those curb scenes where I was just like, oh. Yes.

The music's playing. And I'm like, oh. And I'm like, I don't see anything. What does that mean? I don't see anything. And it really kind of got in my head like a little bug. And then with the next person I dated, it was wild. It was just, I don't know if it's... What a litmus test. It was. Well, it's also that age, you know, in your life where you're kind of going like, you're looking for different things and you're looking for something more in a partner than just like... Yes. Whatever. The fun side. And so...

It was interesting, but I remember sitting on the back of the golf cart and it was one of those weird art and life moments where we're doing this episode about eggs and

We're not in our 20s anymore. And it just felt really weird. It was supposed to be about Zoe's character, but it really is about Cece being a good friend and finding out that she's got like a situation going on and putting pressure on her. But then walking away from that set, sitting on the back of the golf cart with amazing women who are just like really sharing their

like some eye-opening moments for themselves and then you're having these real impacts in your relationships. You know, that's the cool thing about, you know, for listeners, I feel like a lot of people are like, oh, what is it like on set? I'm so curious about...

TV and film. And I know I was complaining about working hours, but there's something to be said for, and this is why actors get a bad rap. I love actors. I love actors. They're just open and wonderful people. Sorry. And, and,

But one thing I love about being on set is, and it's sort of changed now with phones and a lot of people are on their phones. I'm really not because I'm like, this is such a precious experience. I always leave my phone on my trailer because of those conversations where you're like, oh, you're kind of open because you want to be emotionally available to the scene and you want to be present. And so when you're coming, walking onto a set and you're,

trying to prepare for whatever the scene is and thinking about it. And then you have these real life conversations that end up being just so incredible. And you learn so much about people and, and,

It's one of the things I think I struggled with the most during the pandemic was like the loss of those, of being on set and having, I don't know, it feels like it's a different portal where you can, it's not weird to have that conversation on a golf cart. Yeah. It's just not. It wasn't. It was like, it's true. There is sort of like,

with wonderful actors and that you get to meet you all of a sudden go really deep into these conversations and it's people that aren't scared of those conversations i would think i get asked a lot about like chemistry right because people talk about like chemistry with cc and schmidt or with justin nick or whatever or the cast in general and i'm sure for you know a lot of people their definition of it is they talk about chemistry it's like they think about it like in

real life terms like ooh, I really want to do this thing with that person like right some delicious chemistry like that But for me the chemistry was especially like when I was working with max But then you'd have phenomenal people like yourself come on the show where it was just like um true trust

Yeah, like something unspoken. And that is just something between two people where, you know, you're about to be really vulnerable and to try something silly or weird or bizarre. And the other person is looking you dead in the eye. And you've got a bunch of crew standing around you going like, I got you. Go for it. Go for it. I got you. It's gonna be cool. Try it. Who cares?

Try it. Get weirder with it. Absolutely. That's like you're talking about like your first scene. You remember that feeling. And I do feel like it was one thing that New Girl did, just had naturally on that set, which was like it was team show. Yes. Who can make this the funniest? Go. We got you. We'll keep pushing it. Go. And it was like, and it took me about a year to kind of get out of my own head of feeling just super lucky to be there.

Where I was like, oh, like this is really safe. And if it doesn't work, they're not going to air it. Right. But we're just going to try all these things, which is why we became like in this weird like alt land a lot of the time too. Where they're even like the writers, everybody was just like, like, let's go. Let's keep trying to do more. And sometimes it got like a lot more. Sure. And, but it, that energy, that chemistry of trust, trust,

of being able to just do it. And there was no competition as in like, who's the funny, like you said, the funniest person, but how do we make the show the funniest or the most real? Like I really need to get there to a place where I have to cry or break down or do the thing. And I got you there too. It's okay. Well, and I think that, you know, it is such a technical challenge.

creative space where it's like, it's more technical than creative. There's, you know, technicians and camera lenses and equipment and wires and, and there's more of that than there are people who are in the scenes and trying to embody this part, right? So you really, I also think for women, it's there's, there's another challenge, which is

Most crews are predominantly male. That's starting to change, especially though when we were starting New Girl, that was the case. That is the standard of our industry, which is that most crew members are men. And so as a woman artist, to come onto a set and already feel like I'm being –

I am stripping down to, well, probably taking my clothes off if I got the part I wanted. But I actually, my job here is to look stupid. My job here is to fail, to push so far that I'm making a choice that I think maybe people won't like. And I think for women in particular, there's that added challenge of,

The sort of good girl like mentality of like, I got this job. So now I just have to do it right. And art is not interesting when it's correct. It's interesting when it's not. And so I do think actresses have this added weight of like, how do I feel free and open and comfortable?

wanting to fail, not just not avoiding failure so that the network executives don't get upset with me so that the showrunner doesn't come out and give me notes so that my co-star like doesn't think I'm wasting time, you know, all of the things that run through our heads. And that's, that's, you know, I, I still, I've gotten a lot better with it through the course of my career where I'm like, Oh, now I have a new standard, which is actually to risk more. Um,

But, and I think you get a little older, the vanity piece in some ways gets harder, but some ways like with kids now, I'm like, you know what? The end of the day, I'm going home to two people who like really think I'm great. So I'm ultimately good no matter how this day ends. Yeah. But it is, it is, um,

it's not an actor's medium. It's the director's medium TV film. And so it's like, we're told like, Hey, they're ready to go. And, but we never get the opportunity to say like, but hold on, I'm not ready. Yeah. Cause then you're difficult. Yeah. I mean, I will say that was one of the sweetest things in my working with Max Greenfield a lot

is that the character's arc all of a sudden got a little complicated, emotional, hurtful. There was cheating involved and fertility issues involved and all this stuff that my character had to kind of all of a sudden...

Jump in. And sometimes I'd be only working one day a week. So then you show up and it's like, and go. And you have to get in it. And that's when I talk about chemistry, that's what was the great chemistry between Max and I is that he was just like the, he's just an incredible scene partner who was just like, I'm going to sit in, no matter what everybody else is saying, we're going to sit in this until we get there.

I got you and just keep pushing. It was just like a beautiful thing of trust. And it was the same when I would do scenes with Zoe and they were just like, be silly best friends out of nowhere. And it's like, it's like five in the morning. Yeah. And we had to just kind of like find our path into like the thing. We had each other and it was really,

That was just like a wonderful thing. I also remember them trying to put like Cece and Coach together. I don't know if you know this. They tried to have his date and have a relationship on the show. And Damon and I, we had to do this big kiss outside the loft.

And he had to like pick me up and like be holding me and like against a wall. And I think I chipped his tooth. Then I think he tried to pick me up and then he kind of dropped me and then made a comment about like, well, I can't because this part's big. And I was like, you say what? And we were just dying laughing. And then finally Video Village was dying laughing. And they were just like, whatever the thing is.

with you guys in real life like you're so deep in brother sister land in real life yeah your bodies are like the opposite ends of a magnet and are just they're running from each other and so they flip the whole nature of our relationship and then it kind of it just it became like we were friends and we were helping everybody else and the fact that they show could see those things right and just embrace it and be like all right let's

it and make this work so that we can keep the energy. Yeah, exactly. Authentic in the show. Because when you watch it, you know, when it's bullshit, when you're like, this is not the thing.

Well, it's so funny, though, because I've also had the experience of thinking I have amazing chemistry with this person and then watching it and being like, oh, God, that didn't translate. And then the opposite has been true, too, where I'm like, I have got nothing with this gentleman. Like I he is toxic to me. I can't believe I have to fake whatever. Yeah.

And then seeing it on screen and being like, God damn it. What I was playing as repellent is weirdly reading in this camera as interest. So I do think that's often true as well, which is like the camera is taking on things and they're seeing things in video village that are like, it's just different. Yeah. And that's, I'm not a director. That's the mystery of like,

what directors do, but, um, it's one of those moments when they're like, okay, got it. And you're like, really? Yeah. Do you really get it? Cause I feel like, I promise you, I didn't get it. That's right. I didn't get it. Like I will never move on to the scene. Those

Those are the worst drives home too. You're driving home and you're just like... Oh, I always figure out the scene on the drive home. Always. Always. That's what I meant there. Yeah. June, I love you. Thank you for coming on this weird, wildly podcast of us. I'm so happy to be here. So...

nice to think about New Girl and the massive you know success it was and also just what a lovely experience it was so thank you for having me and I beg all of you to not fact check a word I've said laughing

A lot of words. You can, like, I always know whenever I get really happy, like, I mix up my words. Even now, it's like, coming on this weird, wily podcast of us. Because my brain is just going, it's us. It's us right here. And I can't even say of ours. Well, that is our show. Bye.

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