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Babe. What's happening, babe? Babe. Babe. I'm very excited about today. Oh, yeah. Table 34. Table 34, a.k.a. known to me this episode as the Kobe Bryant episode.
This was that episode? This was the episode. I knew you didn't remember. And it's like permanently in my brain. And the reason why it's permanently put into my brain as the Kobe Bryant episode is because it's my one picture with Kobe and it's me, Kobe, and me.
Max dressed in full Indian garb with the headdress on. Oh my gosh. And that's why I'm always like, table 34. I'll never be like, I wonder which one, because we all just look like our normal characters. No, Max is head to toe, looking like he's from The Love Guru. Yes!
I mean, that's what I'm doing. I don't know what time it is. I want everybody to gather around now. Gather around. I like that. Yeah. Yes. Mess around. Mess around. That's what we're talking about. Uh-huh. Oh, man. Look.
They're messing around. They're messing around. Yeah. I remember that. And it's funny you say that because you guys were filming one particular scene on stage when he walked in. That's right. And so I wasn't in that moment. I remember being out by my trailer, walking to my trailer. And in the distance, I see one of the execs and this tall gentleman. And I'm not joking. I couldn't make out the face, just shapes. And it might have been 70 yards away.
Knew it was Kobe Bryant. Sure. Because I know how he walks. I'm a huge basketball fan. But I was like, it's either Kobe or someone who walks like Kobe. And he was wearing a full-on basketball... A co-wannabe? Yeah, he was... I mean, yeah, it could have been a co-wannabe. Co-wannabe? He was with Melvin Maher. It was Melvin who brought him. Actually, I don't think it was Melvin. It was Melvin! No, I don't think it was... It was...
He's wearing glasses. He had great gray hair. I'm forgetting his name, but it wasn't Melvin. Cause Melvin is friends with him, but Melvin didn't bring him to the stage. Are you sure? Thousand percent positive. I'm going to send a text during the break. And you know how I know? Because Melvin and Jake Kasdan are producing partners and really close. Yeah. Jake Kasdan, when Kobe came in goes, what's Kobe doing here? Cause he's a Knicks fan. And he was like, he was happy to see Kobe. Sure. But he was kind of like, we still have a show to shoot.
No way. He would have known. If Melvin brought him to the stage, he would have known that he was coming. Melvin would have given him a heads up that I'm about to interrupt your shoot. Maybe then what I'm remembering, I am going to text Melvin, but what I'm remembering is Melvin explained to me then why Kobe was there. Yes, because Kobe and Melvin were close. Got it, got it, got it. So maybe it's Melvin explained what the drop-in was really about. Right. And then I remember as he got closer and closer, my heart started pounding. I was like, oh my God.
There he is. Oh my God. Third greatest player of all time. What's really funny, if you say yourself's number one, I'm going to pass out. No, it's LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant. Okay, I thought just for sure you were going to try to squeak yourself in there. No. All the respect. I mean, lately, I played the other day. I'm not going to lie to you. I don't have it anymore. I was playing with some young kids. You're just really in the honesty game right now. Very self-aware. Didn't have it. I was with someone recently who was asking me about Megan Fox being on the show.
And I was saying how it was really funny because all of a sudden the set got busier when Megan was on set, you know, and all of a sudden it was like, oh, this light bulb looks like it's out. And they were just like hanging out. And I said, but that wasn't the person that came to our set that drew the most people that didn't have to be there. That person was Kobe Bryant. It was Kobe. Yeah. I remember all of a sudden there were so many people, like people ran and, and,
also like a Megan Fox reaction, but even worse, you could feel the energy. Nobody approached him. They all just stood like 20 feet away and just
- Yeah. - And they just wanted to be in his like orbit. - I remember Jake Johnson asking him, they were sitting in Video Village and Jake goes, "So what are you doing here? "You thinking about getting into TV production?" And Kobe without even making eye contact with Jake, kept looking at the monitor and he goes, "I do what I do, man. "I do what I do." - Get out. - That was the response? - That was the response.
Funny enough, Kobe then goes into production. Sure. Yeah. Wins an Oscar. Yeah. Stole it all from the set at table 34. Have I told you what happened with Kobe and myself? What that was about? No. So he was, I remember everybody was just like lurking, right? Like 20 feet away, just staring at him or coming up and saying something. Yeah. With like a shaky, nervous voice. And then they're like, okay, cool. I guess I have a conversation now. And then just like belly crawling away. Yeah.
And I didn't really care that much, to be honest with you. I was like, oh, cool, Kobe Bryant. But it didn't like activate some sort of like panic response in my body. You're a Canadian. I'm a Canadian. If Vince Carter showed up, you might have been like, yeah, Air Canada. Vance. Kyle Lowry showed up. I was like a Grizzlies fan when we had the Grizzlies. Big Country Reeves. That's right. Big Country. Big Country. Mike Bibby. I know. Bibby. Love Bibby. Yeah.
Sharif Abdur-Rahim. Oh, yeah. Listen, I know all about these guys. Come on.
I know. I went to Memphis. This is now a basketball podcast. Yes. You did it. Your dream came true. So what I remember was it was kind of like that weird energy because everybody just had this like huge expectation or this moment and they were going to go home and write their diaries and call their moms or whatever. So he was sitting in a director's chair and like just outside of where like cast holding was alone. Yeah. No one was talking to him. No one was near him.
And there was one chair next to him and no one was there. And I was wearing, as usual, the most uncomfortable shoes on planet Earth. And we just finished whatever the take was. And so I just went and sat in the empty chair, not for like, oh, I'm going to sit next to Kobe and talk to him. So I sat there and then he and I started talking.
And I like how you don't believe it. Look at the look on your face. Let me tell you something. If Kobe Bryant's sitting down, you have a whole trailer. I want everybody to know this. My shoes hurt so badly. Yeah, the trailer's two feet away. I'm going to put you some high heels right now and make you walk around the block. You're going to take the first available seat. Yeah, especially if it's next to Kobe Bryant. I know you would. I'm talking about me and my choices. Okay, anyway. I accidentally sat next to Kobe.
I swear. So I sit there and I'm not talking to him, right? Because I'm just like, well, like, all right, like, hi, hi. But then we start chatting and it was during a new setup. But we we talked for like, I want to say like over half an hour. And it's me. And, you know, these kind of chats that I like to have. And I was sort of like, well, where did you grow up? And like.
did you always want to play basketball? Like, was this really something that mattered to you, like, as a child? Like, did you figure it out early? And it was just so funny. He just fully was, like, vulnerable and talked about how it was something that, like,
made his dad really happy, I feel like. He talked about that a little bit. And then that was like his relationship with basketball. It was like the connection to like his dad. And then we kind of got really deep into that. And then I was talking about
about my dad and then connecting as a child with a parent and then do you really love basketball when you're a kid or you're doing it just because and we had this really deep chat and it was really really lovely and I was just like what a like kind like vulnerable boy I've asked that same question to other NBA players like what made you get into basketball you know what the response is the hoes what
Kobe did not say the house. Kobe did not say that. He got very vulnerable and talked about his childhood and really like re-examined if that was the love of basketball itself or really was it just like connection with his parents. It's always so funny. This is how you know that people are gifted when it's not even truly their first love. Right. But they go on to become iconic for doing it. Me, basketball will always remain number one in my life. Overacting, you know,
But I can't play it. But the gift ain't there. The gift ain't there. I'm like, this sucks, man. Do you understand what my brain just did? You just said...
This is how you know people are gifted. And what I thought was coming was you were going to say the way you got that man to open up and really just share his truth. And I was like, no, we still talk about Kobe and basketball. I don't have a full circle moment about like you recognizing like a gift I have. I don't think it was your interview skills. I wasn't even trying to interview. I just have that magic about me. People trust me. You are very charismatic, lovely young lady. Thank you so much. This is what I was looking for.
But it had nothing to do with your interview skills. You're right, Oprah. But you know what? You can give me another compliment too. You can say that was cute that he said nice things. That's okay. You can also say that. I'll take that right now. That's why Prince was emailing you and not me. I also had some vulnerable talks with Prince. Don't. Don't do it. Let me believe my truth. Let me believe my truth.
It's because I got the chat. And I'm going to hire you as my lawyer, my agent, and my manager. I'll take all those percentages. All I want is basketball tickets. That's all I want. All right. We're going to talk about Table 34 when we come back, a.k.a. the Kobe Bryant episode.
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producer from Freehold, New Jersey. Shout out to New Jersey. I used to live in New Jersey. And one of his first jobs was writing on Saturday Night Live. Yeah, pedigree, baby. Comedy institution. Now, since then, he's worked on shows like Mr. Robot and Mad Men, written a movie called The Spy Who Dumped Me. Love that movie. He wrote a young adult novel named Firecracker. Yeah, it's great. I read it. But he's here today not only...
because he was a producer on New Girl, but he also wrote Table 34. He wrote this episode that we're going to talk about today. Makes him the perfect guest. Mr. David Iserson.
Hi. Hi, everybody. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. So today we are uncovering episode 216, Table 34. Just right off the top, what do you remember about this episode? Okay, so the most memorable thing about this episode, because I really had not looked at it, thought about it since. I mean, the most memorable thing is that Kobe Bryant was there. Yeah! Yeah. Well, let me just say something. You remembered it. Do you know who didn't remember that?
It's not that I didn't remember. I wasn't putting it together. I remember as soon as she said it, I was like, yes, I remember that. Yeah. Because when he walked in, you guys were dressed. Max was dressed. Yeah. You know, and something that Max probably would never wear in his regular life. Like the love guru. Yeah.
He was just like the love hero. I mean, that was the most obvious, the thing that felt the most Schmidt thing of that episode. And that's how I can definitely place myself in that episode because I have pictures of Kobe Bryant there. How much of a heads up did you get that Kobe was coming? I got almost no heads up. So the story, as I was told, was that he would pass by the fox lot on his way to practice. And he thought,
Wonder what they do there. And he called someone who called someone who, who he had a day off and he was like, I'm going to spend the day on the Fox lot. And they brought him around. And I certainly not the most sportsy person on the writing staff, but I was the one covering set. It was, it was, um,
Yeah, I think it was the same day that Norman Lear was visiting the writer's room. That's right. I remember that. So, like, I mean...
My geeky fandom is much more for sitcom history. So I didn't hang out. I didn't meet Norman Lear, but I spent the day sitting next to Kobe, which I understood the significance of. It just was not exactly where my fan specificity. You'd rather be hanging out with Norman Lear. A lot late. So he would sit on set. They put him in a director's chair, and he was very interested because we were...
He was definitely there for Schmidt's big speech. And we had a lot of alts, which I imagine for an observer, seeing a lot of the alternate lines was not as fun for the actors. But yeah, so Kobe was laughing. He was into it. It was...
It was wild. It was a really surreal day. Oh, yeah. That's so funny to think that Kobe Bryant heard, India, get your shit together. He heard it. He laughed at it. I'm just cussing at my whole country. That's so funny. Okay. We're here with David Iserson, writer of Epiphany.
216, table 34. So let's break down the episode. After the kiss. The kiss. Nick and Jess, they do their best to avoid each other, but trust me, it is more awkward than a family member asking you for money again. That was a joke that was written in here, but it's
but it's so true. This is so true to my life. Winston declares himself the mojo man after having great sex with Daisy because Winston still got it. That's when Cece attends an Indian marriage convention and the gang all fall
Just like the gang always somehow does. They crash things. Now, quickly, we see Schmidt is clearly still in love with Cece. While everything Nick and Jess try to do to prove they aren't a couple backfires. Jess eventually tells Sam about the kiss, which leads to first of all, I don't know why the fuck she did that. But it leads to him dumping her, but not before he punches Nick.
He hit that man right in the solar plexus. And the Sharon's. Yeah. Now, Schmidt gives a wholesome speech about how great CeCe is in front of the convention, and it leads to them going back to his place and doing, you know, what adults do. The turban on. That's right. You know, it was something.
It was something. It was something. Yeah. So there we go. That is indeed the episode. Table 34. Well, let's dive right in. Let's start from the top. This is my big question for you. It's about the moonwalk away. Okay. Where did that come from? I'm trying to...
I don't recall it being my idea. But when I was rewatching the episode, I was like... Because the original conception, I went back and I looked... I wrote a version of this episode... At that point, I think we would get... The writers would get seven days to write an episode. And I think I was on... I was on day six and three quarters. And I got a call and said...
We decided that Nick and Jess were going to kiss in the episode before. So what you're working on, we can't use it anymore. So come in. And I came in. And so the version of it, I mean, it was always going to be the Indian marriage convention. But I don't think Nick was there. So I guess there needed to be an idea of just...
Nick needed to want to avoid, want to not want to be around the loft. How would you get Nick to go to an Indian marriage convention, which would seem more rationally like something Nick would not want to do? Of course. So I have a vague memory that the moonwalk away was somehow part of establishing that Nick just
Didn't want to be there. Yeah, right. He's just trying to avoid her at all costs. Was this the first time we've seen him do the moonwalk? I think so. That was the first moonwalk. I got to imagine, yeah. Because it becomes a thing. But it becomes like this big thing. Right. And people say it to me all the time. It's just like this funny Nick thing. People do it. Yeah. And I was just like, I wonder where it all,
It's so funny. It's a thing now, just in general, people say, I'm going to moonwalk away from this conversation. And I believe it came from this. You entered the culture of avoidance. Listen, it entered the zeitgeist and I'm sure it came around like at 3 a.m. one night. I mean, it's a creative way to get away from someone. So Jess, she wants to tell Sam. She wants to tell him. I know. And then, honestly, when I rewatched it, what David Walton says to Zoey
about when he rolls over and he's like, I can't look at you. Oh, but I can't help it. But I look back at you. I was like, this is the dream of what someone would say. Very sweet. He's a real sweet boyfriend. Where did that come from?
You're like, this is what I do every morning. No, yeah, it must be. I mean, anything that was good boyfriend behavior, it must have been autobiographical. No, there was a really long runner, really lengthy version of lots of things that would happen in the episode. And I remember it was that...
day he woke up and all he dreamed about was mountain biking. And so that, like all in my old drafts of it, it was like he would wake up and he's like, I had a dream. I was mountain biking. There was no nuance to it or anything like that. So I think there was a time when the episode was going to be about just wondering if he wasn't deep enough, which is sort of implied a little bit. And, but
But I think there just kind of needed to be a level of like we need to understand that like there's something that's really, you know, that she's she's really torn. Like he he is a sweet guy. It'd be really easy to just kind of start making him an asshole and then make it kind of easy for her to easy for them to to to separate. But I think he wanted to make it a little bit, you know, like mess it mess it up a little bit.
Yeah. I mean, it was such a smart way, especially as like a female viewer watching it. I was like, oh my gosh, whatever his issues are. If he's saying that to you every single morning, stick around, lady, so that you feel the loss at the end. He's a rare find, a rare bird. Well, to be fair. Oh gosh. What? He was wearing makeup. Yeah.
She was wearing, she was definitely wearing makeup in a way that I don't think was mentioned by, it wasn't necessarily implied. I mean, she didn't, I think she didn't go to sleep, but her eye makeup was pretty on point. Georgie did her makeup. Georgie did her makeup and she did look gorgeous. She always looked gorgeous, but she looked extra gorgeous for a morning. Yeah, I get it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not something, we talked about this before, but like, I gotta be honest, when I roll over, I'm gonna be like, I love being here, but you and I both right now.
I was saying he has to work on not telling the truth all the time. In real life? In real life. This is a conversation in our friendship that I discuss. Sometimes we don't have to say it out loud. You know? I have a hard time just looking you in your eye and lying. I have a hard time just being like, you're so beautiful right now. Then you just don't say anything. There's mucus. Hold on, let me get some blood. Hold on, let me braid that back.
If you open your kit and caboodle and just like pop out all your makeup on a woman, I mean, it's getting, we're getting, we're getting in the weeds. Don't worry about my Friday nights. Because this is an audio medium. Like, Lamorne is not looking at a person. Like, I think, I think this would, this would be a lot more of a complicated statement. Like if he was looking at one of us when he was doing the bit of lying to somebody. But he is like looking at a pretend person that is like floating in the air above him. And that, that is who he is doing this bit to. Yes.
It's like, listen, I got you. Yeah. Those days are over though. I'm going to start, I'm going to start lying more.
Now's the time in life to start. I'm happy for you with this. As a 40-something-year-old man, I want to now start to lie. And I think that's something that people should really be on board with. Like, yeah, he should be a liar. Yeah, be a bit of a liar. Thank you. This is your sister telling you. Okay, so Jess, she tells Cece that Nick kissed her. And your response was? What?
I remember doing that and I just went like, what? What? I did all these different what's and I don't know if it was you or if it was Tristram or who told me. They're like, could you just do one and just keep
Like it was very family guy-esque. They were just like, don't stop. It was such a, I don't remember. Yeah, because it was such a good bit. Because the credits ran and then you were still doing it, right? Yeah. It was really, I'd love to take credit for it. I don't remember, but it was really funny. I don't remember either because it wasn't my idea. And in the moment of doing it, I remember being like, this is weird.
as a human reaction to your friend to keep going and to not like let the person now speak. But it works and people love that moment so much as the incredulous response to your friend doing something so dumb. Oh yeah, 100%. I was thinking about that because what happens is
even we improvise a lot. And when someone, you can have as many variations as you want, but when someone then gives you that note, like if someone would have given me that, I wouldn't have been able to do it as well. Just because in my mind, I'm like, oh, I think I know what they're going for and it will work, but now I'm thinking too much about it. And I would have been like, what? And my voice would have cracked. They would have blown up. You did it so perfectly. Oh! Yeah. It's a rare moment as a compliment. I'm just going to try it first. I told you I'm working on my lies. Ha ha!
I told you. Moving on. Moving on. Winston declares himself the mojo man. Yeah. Because she said it. What did she say? She was pretty good, right? Pretty good. Yeah. Pretty good. Pretty good. I remember, again, this goes back to when I was telling you about how I felt about my performances in the first two seasons. I'm so critical of myself and how I wasn't, I'm happier with season three and on.
you know, and while I was watching it and doing the Mojo Man dance, I was like, I could do that so much better now. Let's run that back. Let's do this episode again. Let's do this. There is so many parts of my performance that I was just overanalyzing going.
No, I wouldn't do that either. I think I'd make a different choice here. I'd make a different choice there. And the Mojo Man dance is something that I wish I could do again. Really? In fact, I'm going to do it again and post it on our Instagram. Okay. Yeah. Really? I thought it was great. It made me laugh when I rewatched it. I don't know what it is. Mojo Man. Where did that come from? My experience was, and I mean, there was a, I think there were several different Winston stories and, um,
I mean, I'll compliment you because I will say that I don't know that we gave you a lot to do in that episode. I mean, I can fall on the sword there. And you made it really funny.
But when I was watching it, I was like, oh, I feel a little bad because I think that there was kind of an idea there. And I think you did a great job with it and made it really memorable. And I think there was a whole story at one point where Winston's girlfriend is...
daring him to do a bunch of things. And he's, and it, at one point it ended in him getting married to her. And, and I think there was just like some sort of 11th hour, like, yeah, but then we're going to have to actually deal with Winston getting married off screen. And I think ultimately we just wanted everybody at the Indian marriage convention. And, but I, I, I thought it was, it was, you did a really funny job. And then it was, I think the, the,
the bit that came from it about the woman who was running it being very attracted to you. Also, probably not my best writing I've ever done, but you did a really funny job with it. It's so funny. So Mira Simran plays Anu, that character, and we're like old friends now, but that's where we first met. We ended up like doing a movie together. We EP'd a movie together. We're long friends.
And she talks about how absolutely wonderful the experience was. And she thought it was so funny and such a funny, interesting character for like an Indian woman to play. And it was, those roles didn't exist.
And she loved it. And she loved working with you because she got to just say all these super weird things. And you were just like there for it. It's kind of weird when you're like she sent me this video. We'll put it up on our Instagram. But she she sent me this video where she talked about it's kind of strange. You were like walking onto this show. We were like a very well-known and beloved show at that time. And, you know, the cast is all in its groove and your guest cast. And she's got to do some and say some.
pretty crazy things to you. And she just said it was like the greatest experience. She got to be super funny and weird and she wasn't, you know, it wasn't like those roles were just like out there. So she had an awesome time with it. I don't know how I felt in the moment, like while filming it, but I know how I felt after rewatching it. And I was like, damn, how come Winston didn't go for that? Yeah.
I was shocked too. I was like, I don't understand. I was like, what? Like, there's a vibe clearly. I was like, I wish I had her pinching my butt and doing stuff like that. What'd you call them? Blueberries? Yeah. Blueberries. I was like, whoa. It ain't cheap.
We should have established Winston as a cheater. We should have. Yeah. We established, now we established Lamorne as a 40-something liar and Winston as a cheater. That's true. You stayed faithful. That was actually quite nice. Which is so strange because even, which is funny because Daisy ends up cheating on Winston.
- Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And he comes home in a size 15 shoe. - Didn't pay off. The other thing that was funny watching it back was when she, when Mira or the Anu character references the Watchers.
And it's Brett, Dave, Rizzoli, and Purple. Yeah, Bill Purple. Those are like the creepy ones. Well, I mean, I really, Dave really popped as a real creep. I think, I think like, I had to watch it a few times to like, to catch who everybody was because it was only on for a second. I have the picture right here. I'll show you guys again. But Dave Finkel really, his, his, his creepy expression like, like really, really worked.
David Rizzoli. David Rizzoli. Oh, yeah. Now that I'm seeing... Yeah. I mean, Bear actually looks like he would be plucked out by some of the women being like, hello, let's go, let's go in. But yeah, Finkel really committed to the big eyes. Let me see. Well, I'll put this up on our Instagram, do this picture. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's two men behind the magic and then our two...
First ADs. Yeah. Brazilian purple. Oh, yeah. Why were they both there? It's really funny. Probably because Kobe was there. I think I imagine that was probably it. Yeah. I'll just jump in. Or there was like a call that went out that like we need creeps and like I'll have to do it. OK, so flashback. Just reading a magazine. Man terrorism. Nick Moonwalks out of the living room. Yeah. More moonwalking. More moonwalking. Yeah. He does moonwalking right before that as well.
That's how he gets out of everything. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of it. Jess says Nick was a man and grabbed her. It was firm, tender. She saw through space and time. Yeah. That's interesting. I saw the parallel in that because she gives that great speech where Cece's just like listening. But it reminded me then of the speech that Schmidt gives at the end.
Right. Or when he's talking to her to the side where he's talking about their sex. Right. It's like it's all the oppression. And I can feel like the ancestor, like this very, very, very pointed thing. But it reminded me how they both have are talking about this like unavoidable, deeper than anything they've ever experienced. Connection between two people that they've experienced, both Jess and Schmidt, which is why they can't stop thinking about it.
No? Was that a choice or am I just like... Yeah, I mean, I think that...
There was lots of conversation. I mean, when I came into the show in the second season, there's always like the, and I think it's true in any sitcom, like the will they or won't they conversation. Like, you know, because I think we all look to the past in sitcoms and there's like a whole tradition of like on cheers, like when Sam and Diane get together, does that hurt the show? And moonlighting and can you ever come back? Like,
will it break the show? And I was definitely in the camp of like, just start pushing them together. And I think that, you know, I think that feels...
I think having them kiss and us at least knowing that that's, I mean, we, I think anyone who watches the pilot of the show knows that we were rooting for that. So yeah. Anything that kind of like, I, I think there's probably something to explore if they kissed and there wasn't anything there, but I think that like, and, and we'll get to it when we talk about like all the things in the,
And in the convention that like solidify that these two are meant for each other, which I which wasn't always going to be the case in that episode. And I think really works. So, yeah, I mean, when they kiss, it's got to had to have been a transformative moment. Yeah, it was just the way she described that kiss.
I feel like so many people can relate. When you have the moment where you're like, well, that's just different and I can't explain the why. Yeah. But that's in my brain forever. I've heard that plenty of times. Women write me emails about the gifts that we have.
So you have a kiss with a woman and then like at a later date, she goes to Lamorne at Yahoo.com and she's just like, she's like, by the way. She doesn't have his number. She can't text him. She has to send an email. I don't give him my phone number. I give him a fan email. She's like, you've changed my life with that kiss. You're like, thanks for the email to my fake assistant. You were mentioning the convention. The tables felt very caste system-y.
- Yeah, that's such a, feels like the caste system to me too. - Yeah, I think so. If you were at one of these tables, what number, 'cause the lower the number, the better you are in society. - Well, that's what that rude guy, when we do the speed dating thing, is like, "I don't date below table six," is implying. - Yes. - You wanna be in a higher number. - Yeah. - Was there any like pitching or conversation about the actual number 34?
It was 14. It was 16. I just was looking through my old drafts. And yeah, I think I don't even think I think I would have never conceived that there we would have fit that many tables. And I'm sure there certainly were not 34 tables like on the soundstage. But I think that it was it was more than I imagined there would be tables. And I don't remember when it got that high. So one being great table. One is a great table. Yeah. Where would you all be?
Be honest with yourself. Well, what does Anu say? She says the three things that land Cece at table 34. She says over 30. She says no higher education, no college degree, and sporadic employment. Well, I have sporadic employment. I'm over 30, but I have two higher degrees. Really? Yeah.
Don't look so surprised to me with that face. I didn't know you went to college. Yeah. Did you really? Yeah. I have two degrees. But Canadian degrees. I will choke you out right now. I swear. Yes. So I wouldn't be table, I'd be a little higher than 34 based on those qualifiers. What about you? Table 34? Does the associate's degree count? No. No. Your table 34. Okay. Because I also didn't get one of those. Yeah.
I like how you're practicing all your lying today. Let's see. I think I would... Well, employment. Sporadic employment. No, no, no. BMO, I've signed a long contract with. So that is...
Your bank commercials. That's not sporadic. The checks ain't sporadic, but the work is. How often does your SAG health insurance lapse? Because I think that is going to determine it. What table would you be? I mean, Jess is seven, and I think I'll say that I can beat seven or eight. Yeah, there we go. I'm a professional TV writer. Yeah. Yeah. This is the higher end tables over here. Number two. Yeah.
I'd be at table number two. You would just take a seat. Yeah, I would just sit wherever I wanted. That's the issue. And then I'd pull the race card if they made me move. I'd be like, oh, I see what this shit's about. You can't pull the race card with Indians. They don't care. I can't pull the race card with dark Indians. That's right. South Indian tables are just going to be like, what's up? Yeah, I'd be like, okay, you got me. I have a question. Hmm.
Was Sam's breakup too harsh? Now, if I was dating someone and she told me, oh, this person just kissed me, I don't think I'd be so upset with her at that moment. I would want to question him and go, why would you just randomly put your lips on my woman like that?
I would have to question him about that. But he immediately got out of it. But he had just watched, right, at the convention that there was some undeniable chemistry. He could see that there was more to it. And then she didn't tell him immediately. And then he's just watching all this awkward tension. Then they built the world's strongest tiny table, which I don't know if I remember this correctly, but I feel like Jake just grabbed that man and
And made him jump on the table. That is true. And the man kind of fell right before the commercial break. Because I can hear, you know, when you know someone really well, I could tell that Jake in his own body could feel that the guy he grabbed was immediately nervous and not comfortable. And then you just hear Jake, but it's Nick, but goes...
it's real man it's real like this is a real moment we're doing this so you gotta get up here and this man did not and then they fall and then they cut to commercial look on his face like am I allowed is like when I signed the contract to be an extra today am I allowed to do this yeah there was a lot of fear and Jake just being like I'm doing this bit you're doing it with me and he goes this is real
And I was like, this is you as Jake Johnson reassuring this nervous man. - Jake likes to improvise danger. We had a moment in an episode where we had to slap each other.
Jake was I want to say he started that bit and his hands are so heavy and he really hits hard as if he doesn't understand that this is TV you don't actually have to I believe it there's nothing yeah like yeah he Jake looks like somebody who's like roughed people up before absolutely yes when I met when I met Jake we were doing improv
Yeah, we were at an improv theater here. And he had some job that involved like working at a poker casino, but like he wasn't like he was playing poker, but like it was, but it was like for the casino. And I'm like, that's a, that's like a, that's like a job of somebody who is like mob ties or something like that. Yeah. It's like I had a friend back in the day, his family owned a garage. Yeah.
Come on, we know what this is. What's going on in the garage, buddy? There's some money laundering going on, isn't there? The irony of that is that I had, there was an episode where I had to kick Jake in the junk, right? And he went like off right before the scene and asked for a cup.
So he could dish it out, but he was terrified to take it. Well, nobody wants to get kicked in the balls. Yeah, yeah. He got so scared. He was like, I don't trust her. I don't trust her. And I was like, I would never. I understand how to do this. He's like, just in case. Speaking about getting kicked in the balls, where did the Sharon's come from? Who's Sharon? I have no idea. See, that is a joke that I think...
that I don't even remember. Like, because I don't think I ever watched this episode when it aired. Like, I just, like, watched the cut.
Like I watched a cut and I don't think I watched it on TV. And I mean, it's called back too. So he references it later. But like, I don't think that's the version of the joke that I'm familiar, that I remember. So I was, I was, I'm as surprised as you. I have no idea. Oh, I thought you were like, oh, it's going to be my aunt. My Aunt Sharon, isn't she named? Just wanted to name drop her. It'd be a fun little moment for her. We're going to go to a quick break. When we come back, Hannah...
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Um, I've talked to Liz about it too, because I'm just like very laser focused on this. There is a big fan theory that there is a bear in every episode. Like, like a picture, like the same bear. Something or a mention of the word bear or a picture of the bear or like a little stuffed teddy bear. We've had all types of bears, but there's somewhere in there and said, or done or seen. Um, and a lot of people don't believe it. I believe it. I believe that somehow it's just lives in the show. Uh,
And so in this episode, the bear is seen in the picture that's on the fridge. Now, I know a lot of people have issue with that because often when you can't find the bear, that's the one that we go to because that picture was always on the fridge. It's always there. It's always there. But if there's other bears that I have missed in this episode, please let me know. We did miss one.
Brett Baer. Brett Baer! The Watcher! One of the pervs. You've never helped me find the bear. This feels like a good moment in our friendship. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. Even though that's not what the fans were looking for. But they didn't know. Most people don't know the Watchers include Brett Baer. 100%. Well, thanks, Brett. Also, he's the creator of the show The Bear on Hulu FX.
What are you talking about right now? Brett Baer created that show. Brett Baer created that show. Named it after himself. Switched the letters around. Okay, so let's just talk a little bit about the speed dating exercises. There's a few. For me, we mentioned it before.
They're all stupid. Like in real life. Speed dating? Have you ever done speed dating? No, I've never done it. I wonder if it's something that only feels like it exists in television shows. Yeah, I know. Because I'm not sure if you can find love that way for real. Maybe people do because they still do it, obviously. I have a lot of friends when they moved to LA did speed dating when they got here. Oh no, not successfully. But they went. And then I don't know what
type of group of people that it pulls but nobody's come out that i knew came out with a like this person was awesome it was came back with just great stories it pulls the type of people who were standing at the side of like that jake would lift and put on the fake the fake table that's that's that's the speed dating demographic the one that kills me though yeah well the table building exercise is fine yeah but you got to have an engineering degree
Okay. Pulled off successfully? Yeah. The hula hoop thing. I was like, that doesn't prove anything. That doesn't prove anything. Right. That just proved that David Walton was tall. I guess you can make an argument that they were a bit incompatible because of how tall he was. That like when they woke up, they were certainly head to head. But, you know, but during sex, they were not. We all the same height when we lay down. Yeah.
That's what I've always said. I don't remember. I remember so much about that episode. And for some reason, I don't remember having to do that wiggle. And I think it's because I probably felt so self-conscious. You just dissociated. That's right. I was just like, I'm just going to black out. Because it was always, I remember Liz had me do, it was like season five of
I don't know. It was like showing Jess how to dance or something. It was the Jessica Biel episode. And I had to like do this very similar movement. It like reminded me of it. And this was just like, it just like has to look really sexy. And there's nothing worse to hear.
then like make it look sexy because you automatically your brain just goes like, well, I don't know what to do. This is so, I just, I love my arm. Is this an arm? I don't know where the arm goes. And that's what people are tuning in for. Just the sex. They can't find sexiness elsewhere. That's right. They're turning into their half hours sitcoms for that. For the sexiness.
No, but I don't remember that part at all. I do remember Max giving that speech to the side or that little explanation where he's like, you know, I'm a squirrel, you're my net. It's what, again, one of the, it's just like Walton's thing at the top of the episode. One of the sweetest, most undeniable things that if someone said it to you, you would just smile and be like, oh man, this man's got it bad. It was really sweet. Do you remember where that came from?
I mean, I remember that, I mean, broadly, the writers liked writing for Schmidt because we could put the weirdest, like, jokiest TV writer things in his mouth and he would have to do it. And I, yeah, I mean, I remember having...
doing a whole row of different things that he would say. I remember Kobe Bryant behind me when it was happening. Yeah, it was such a sweet, sweet moment. He did it with that cheeky smile. And people love that line too. Yeah. Yeah. Little quotable romantic moment. I remember Winston passing off
this other guy. The stranger to Anu. And again, while watching it, I was going, what? I was going, what? I couldn't remember. I was like, does she agree to this? She's like, you'll do. Did we establish that the thing that was most appealing about Winston was his height? And his pant size? I don't know. Because in every other way, this man and you were...
Completely different. Completely different. Yeah. I have the vaguest memory of like having to go through a few different options to try to think of the one that was most...
most of them were in size. Like, I don't remember if that was ever in the original. I think it was like some 11th hour thing and we were probably looking around at the different extras and seeing who could do the best. You'll do. Yeah. Then Schmidt picks up the mic and gives this passionate speech about how dumb everyone was or placing you at a specific table. Yeah, which then fully backfires. He thought it would just make me go like, or Cece go like, wow, you know.
How beautiful. I made everybody else go, wow. Yeah, so then he starts to insult parts of my body and reveal it to the room, which was also very funny. What did he say? One areola looks like a... A tick bite? A tick bite. He's like, it's very disorienting. Which then tells the room that he's seen the...
So funny. Well, that I've seen them and that it is a bit of a spectacle. You might not want to see them, but you need to see them. Yeah, I remember that too. Now I'm
Now I'm putting together that Kobe Bryant heard that speech about that part of my body, which just now. He thought about it and went home. He went and chuckled about it. Because it's based in truth. Did they get it out of her bio? When he made his Oscar winning animated movie and he was just like pitching ideas that might have at least just like come out, like just like in the. Put a tick bite in it. No bad ideas. No bad ideas. Okay. So we mentioned, we mentioned the punch. Yeah. Him punching him in the stomach and blah, blah, blah.
So that ended. They then get back to the law. Well, before the punch, I will say, well, I have something to say about the speech and something to say about the punch. Something to say about the punch is that like,
Nick was supposed to kiss Jess then, too. He was supposed to say, this is how much it means nothing. They were supposed to kiss again and that it was also not going to be nothing. And that was going to also lead to the. I mean, if you think that the breakup was harsh, I believe that that was a piece of it. And maybe there was a conversation about like we would be playing that beat too many times. But you guys didn't shoot it, though, right? It never. I don't think I got shot now.
Was it in the table read? I think it was in the table read. Okay, because I remember that. Now that you say that, I remember that. I don't know why I remember it, but maybe I remember it from the table read. Yeah. Yeah, so it would make sense why it is...
I guess it would make sense, especially if he explained, oh, we, it meant nothing because we tried it again and it meant nothing. Yeah, exactly. I can explain him getting so upset and the punch in the stomach. Yeah. So they get home and she is. Oh, wait, there was something else. Oh, yeah, yeah. Something about the speech. So Schmidt is talking about what is, what is particularly great to him about India. He,
He says, Kal Penn, obviously a genius. Kal Penn, my buddy from high school who I lived with when I moved to L.A. Really? I think in the performance in Max's way, I think it sounds a lot more sarcastic than it was intended. And years later, I remember somebody saying like,
Cal Penn was on this morning radio show and they asked him about why they, like, and he knew what wasn't meant as an insult, but like the radio DJs were like, were they insulting you on New Girl? Oh, that's so funny. When I rewatched it and he says that line about Cal Penn, I think...
I thought it was because he's I feel like Schmidt truly does love everything about India because he loves Cece so much. It's like whatever you are and anybody that's like of you, I love it. But then I was like and then Cal Penn came on our show years later and then when they go back to the loft and they talk about Taylor Swift, she comes on the show. It was a real manifesting episode. So my question is what does Taylor Swift look like in the new girl world? Because if
She was on the show and nobody said, oh my God, that's Taylor Swift. Does, in Jess's, in the reality of New Girl, does Taylor Swift have a different face? Yeah. Or is she just like, oh, there's just a bunch of women who kind of look the same. That could be it too, yeah. I know Elaine. I'm so upset that I wasn't there that day when she was there.
Yeah. They kept us gross writers away. We were all there, but they were like, you guys can't come down. They learned from Kobe. They learned from Kobe. They were like, you get weird. Everybody's getting weird. Yeah. Is that a real thing? I know nowadays people say, oh, I'll just put on some Taylor Swift. She's the biggest artist on planet Earth. Yeah.
Yeah, but back then, was she that big? It made me feel very prescient, but I think that was particularly in the way that she was saying it, like this is breakup music. No, I think that that was really as Taylor Swift ascended into culture as something somebody like Jess would listen to when her heart was broken. Interesting. I admittedly don't put on Taylor Swift when my heart is broken.
What do you put on? Lil Wayne. That checks out. We shared a trailer, Lamorne and I. We had a shared wall. And over the years, there was a lot of Lil Wayne. So that checks out. Reference in this episode, right? So towards the end, Nick apologizes for the kiss, says it won't happen again. Obviously, we know. And he does that weird dance and there's nothing more...
that I love than watching Jake Johnson having to dance in an episode because I know how much he hates it. Yeah. And it's so funny and so good every single time. And you guys made him do it so many times over the series. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I feel like that's one of the first ones though, right? Where he does something super weird dancey. Am I wrong?
I think there might have been one prior to that. You know what I know was prior to that? That fucking New Girl music video that we did. Oh, that's a whole other. That's a whole episode on its own. The interactive music video. Do you remember that? No, I think I blocked that one out. Yeah, I tried to do that too. That was a wild one. Then at the very, very end. Yes. Oh, gosh. Honestly, this tag of this episode.
I had fully forgotten about. Really? Just like I think like the hula hoop wiggle. I think I'd fully forgotten about it. And rewatching it. It's very weird to watch yourself like. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Make out with somebody on TV. And we really go for it. Right. Because it's like that's the whole thing is like we are just forget it. We're back. And I feel like that was a.
Was it in the script, Turban On? Turban On or Turban Off? It was in the script. It was in the script. Maybe, because I just remember... It was almost definitely Liz. Because I remember shooting it, and I feel like we shot...
Or I was trying to get it to be like turban off. I was like, I don't know. Is this going to, I was always so worried about like it was going to offend anybody. Cause I didn't know like how it was going to be received to be like dressed like a little Indian man. And then this is going to do it for me. It certainly was my feeling watching the episode. It's like, boy, because yeah, we didn't talk as much about the conception of the episode, but that was definitely not. So when I got hired on New Girl, I,
I came in with a story idea, which was the story that ended up being Nick's father's funeral. Because a similar thing had happened to me with my ex-girlfriend's funeral. And then Love Rocky, who is a South Asian American writer,
pitched the Indian Marriage Convention. Not a thing that I pitched. And just when they, when the episodes were signed out, we each kind of got, we Freaky Friday'd our scripts. So, yeah. So, this...
So I was really flying by. I remember asking Love, what research, what is this? But I was trying to be very cautious about the things that I personally wrote down in the script. Turbin was not one of them. Calcutta bitch. So watching it, I was like, oh boy, will I have to stand behind this fully? But I think everything coming out of Schmidt's mouth
kind of go through the filter of it is coming out of his mouth. It's coming from his mouth and he's also so in love. You just so believe he's so in love with Cece and everything about her. It somehow doesn't read in any way ever offensive. Well, that's what I was going to say. He says a lot of offensive things, but it's so endearing in a way that I can't rank it high on episodes of
levels of offensiveness from Schmidt. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. This is still, this is still like fairly in the, in the benign area of, of how much it probably gets. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to go to break and when we come back more stuff about the show.
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Hi, I'm Katie Lowes. And I'm Guillermo Diaz. And now we're back with another season of our podcast, Unpacking the Toolbox, where Guillermo and I will be rewatching the show. To officially unpack season three of Scandal. Unpredictable. You don't see it coming. It's a wild, wild ride. The twists and turns in season three. Mesmerizing. But also,
Also, we get to hang out with all of our old Scandal friends like Bellamy Young, Scott Foley, Tony Goldwyn, Debbie Allen, Kerry Washington. So many people. Even more shocking assassinations from Papa and Mama Pope. And yes, Katie and I's famous teeth pulling scene that kicks off a romance. And it was peak TV. This is new Scandal KC.
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Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we are back. Okay, I have a few questions for you. Please. A few questions. Which character did you find it easiest to write for and why? Yeah, I mean, I guess it was probably easiest to write Schmidt because I think as I was saying before, you can basically just write him like a writer's, like a sitcom writer's room. Though I felt...
I did always feel like a kinship writing Nick. Nick felt pretty fun for me. - Yeah, okay. In the New Girl universe, which character would most likely be your friend in high school?
I went to college with Zoe. So I think that that... Did you really? We passed for Northwestern. We didn't know each other, but we were there at the same time. So I would assume that it would be Jess for that reason. And Damon and Zoe went to the same high school as well. They went to the same high school. I went to college. Yeah, college, but they went to the same high school. Yeah. That's awesome. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. It's so funny how small the world can feel when you start to...
Oh, 100%. Okay, so you started in season two. What was your first impression of the show? Like overall, before you got the job, when you got the job, you know, first episode you worked on. I went to the table read that you must have been at, Hannah, that Jason Manzoukas was reading for Coach. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. And so, yeah, so we were just, we were in this...
weird little office and I knew Brett and Dave, like we'd worked on this show, United States of Tara. So they invited me to this table read and I thought it was really funny. And then we talked it through, I gave a few notes, other people gave a few notes and then sort of left the table read and then like Dave and Brett and Liz were all huddled together and they're like,
We're going to throw this episode out and write a new one. I think at some point they did write a new pilot, but eventually they went back to this pilot. And I thought it was funny. It was a really charming show. I liked it a lot. Because you said you started season two. I started season two. But I think I met, I went as like a, yeah, as a favor to the table read. Right. I met on the show in season one and I don't remember, it didn't work out or I got another job or something like that. Yeah.
- But the show at that point was like minted. - The show was a hit, yeah. - Yeah, that's a good feeling. - Yeah, and feeling walking into a hit show, absolutely. - Yeah, it's funny 'cause I remember when shooting the pilot, I'd never shot a pilot before and I didn't really know,
And it just kind of felt like, well, that was fun and it's probably going to go away. Like everything. Yeah, exactly. It's interesting, I guess, to meet on a show that's in its second season and you know, this is probably going to stick around. Yeah, you can, you know, you don't have to, you can pay for a car. Yeah, because there's not a lot of job security in this town. So that's cool. It's got five cars. It's time for the mess around. Yeah.
Oh, man. Look at that. Baby? Yeah, babe. Here's the topic. Speed dating. Yeah. Ever do it? No. No. Never? No, but I always wanted to. Yeah. It seems like it'd be fun and it matches my attention span. Which is really quick. Because I think you know.
Real quick. Kind of. If you're like, ooh, what's going on here? My young and wilder days, I did some version of speed dating. What does that mean? Well, I would go on multiple dates in a day with different women. Okay. So like on a weekend, like on a Friday, Saturday, we were filming all the time. Yeah. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. You know what I'm saying? Friday night, you get off work late. So I got, there's only one.
You can do one date. Saturday, you mess around and do three. You got a breakfast date, you got a lunch date, and you got a dinner date. So you've never speed dated is what you're saying. Never speed dated. Okay, good. Thanks so much for sharing that story. Okay. Craziest breakup story. Craziest. I feel like you're going to have some good ones. I have quite the. You have a collection. I have a collection. I have quite the collection.
So there was this one time where I was breaking up with someone and it was a very, it was, it was, let's just say it was obvious why I was breaking up with her. Okay. She knew it. She couldn't fight it. It was very clear. I'm not going to say what happened. Okay. But she knew. I then, and I lived in an apartment in Hancock Park at the time.
Oh, I know that apartment. Yeah, very quiet. Nothing but old people and then me. So it was a really peaceful place. It was a very odd spot. I remember coming over once and I was just like, okay. Listen, I love peace and quiet. And when I, she showed up at like midnight ringing my doorbell. As she got into the security gate, I don't know. But she's at my door ringing the doorbell. It's like midnight. I look outside. It's her. Now this is a work night.
You know, we got 6 a.m. call times. So it's midnight. She's ringing the doorbell. I'm like, you got to go. He's like, but I love you. Keep in mind, we were dating for a month. I love you and I don't want to go. Please can I come in? I was like, no. I was like, I'm sorry. I got to work tomorrow. She leaves. 3.30 in the morning. There's banging on my door. I'm not answering it. There's banging, banging, banging. I go, it's her. She's now panicked.
She looks at me and she goes, someone's chasing me. Can you please let me in? And I was like, ain't nobody out here. I was like, you got to go. Now across the hall is an older couple. They now have their door open watching. Sure. And I'm like, I'm so sorry. I do. I don't know how she got in here twice. You know, she just lets me know, like she just didn't leave the first time. She sat downstairs for hours.
and then came back up. And then she eventually left after security came, but...
Wow. Yeah. So that was kind of crazy. Yeah. That's intense. I think she was high to be honest with you. I remember this story. Yeah. You told me this story at the time because you were genuinely freaked out. Yeah. I was like, she can find her way into the building. Yes. She's living in the stairwell. Yeah. And I'm just, I'm saying it's, it's done. It's over. This is a full bye-bye. Two security gates. How? Yeah. You got to go. Yeah. That's a pretty crazy breakup story. You got any, you got any breakups? I don't have.
have any like super crazy ones to be honest with you yours are all healthy well no I don't they were healthy they're just kind of like boring I don't think I have any crazy ones no I wish I did I mean I wish my life was more exciting that way well he broke up with Kanye yeah I mean he didn't he didn't he didn't take it well he struggled we all saw the struggle
Then Kim cut bangs and the rest is history. He had to do what he had to do, as Kobe would say. I do what I do. Okay, so next topic. Any awkward morning after story? You already know the answer to this. The answer is no. Everything's healthy. The next morning you make each other breakfast. You guys hold hands and you walk on the beach. There's always a beach. I get it.
- You and I really are, do you remember that movie Unbreakable with Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson? - M. Night Shyamalan.
That's the dynamic of our friendship. You exist so I can exist and I exist so you can exist because we live polar opposite lives. But if one of us were to disappear, the universe would be in an imbalance. I have no awkward morning after stories. Everybody was happy to be there. I got quite a few.
I know. I know. This is like a theme. This isn't a particular moment, but this has happened numerous times where, you know, you're having fun. You know, you intentionally went on a date with someone, but you got a little, you've been drinking a lot. So you go to sleep and you wake up the next morning and you can sense someone is lying down next to you. Your brain is not telling you who that person is. And there is a fear. Yeah.
What did we do last night? And you roll over and you're relieved. You're like, oh, yeah, I remember this.
But then you don't know if anything happened or not. Like when you draw this blank in your brain, you go, oh, I gotta, I can't do that. I can't, I can't drink so much. I gotta know. Because sometimes if I'm like, if I'm, if I'm on a date with someone and I'm nervous about them, I'll drink probably a little bit more than I should. Sure. Because I'm like trying to loosen up and be casual and cool and not be so uptight. And then the next day you have like a headache and you're like,
You look over and you go, I don't remember this one. If somebody rolled over and then went, oh, it's you. I'd be like, okay. Well, bye forever. He's like, no, it's not bye forever. That's just a natural reaction. Oh, it's you. Surprise. Yeah, it's a natural reaction. I think people try to fake it. You lean over and go, oh, it's so beautiful in the morning. You know damn well she ain't.
You know damn well she hates you. This truth telling is causing you a lot of it. You all learned to lie like a real man. I wish. I wish I knew how. I'll teach you. I do not know how to lie. All right, you guys. Another great episode. So glad you could join us. Thank you all for listening. Please make sure you follow us on IG, the Mess Around Pod. That is the Mess Around Pod. And we'll be back next week with episode 217, Parking Spot. Much love.
That was The Mess Around. This has been an iHeartMedia production. Our executive producer is Joelle Monique. Our engineer and editor is Mia Taylor. Additional production from Daniel Goodman, Wendy Heisler, and Kyle Chevron. Our theme song was written and composed by Ronald Jukebox Jackson. So we're going to catch you next time.
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