cover of episode 493. The Brutal Shadow of Equity In Canada | Celina Caesar-Chavannes

493. The Brutal Shadow of Equity In Canada | Celina Caesar-Chavannes

2024/10/28
logo of podcast The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
AI Deep Dive AI Insights AI Chapters Transcript
People
C
Celina Caesar-Chavannes
乔
乔丹·彼得森
Topics
乔丹·彼得森：加拿大总理特鲁多政府存在一个鲜为人知的丑闻：多位有影响力且直言不讳的内阁成员和政府官员相继离职，其中包括许多特鲁多自豪地任命的女性。他质疑特鲁多政府的公平性，并对Celina Caesar-Chavannes的经历表示关注。他认为特鲁多政府的权力运作存在问题，实际决策者并非特鲁多本人，而是其幕僚。他还批评了加拿大主流媒体对特鲁多政府的纵容和失职。 Celina Caesar-Chavannes：她分享了自己在特鲁多政府担任议会秘书期间的经历，揭露了政府内部存在的歧视和边缘化问题。她认为自己被任命为议会秘书并非基于能力，而是为了满足政府的种族和性别平衡目标。她对特鲁多政府的权力运作提出质疑，认为实际决策者是特鲁多的幕僚，而非特鲁多本人。她还详细描述了自己与特鲁多的几次会面，以及特鲁多对她表现出的不尊重和轻视。她认为特鲁多政府对Jody Wilson-Raybould事件的处理方式是不公正的，并批评了加拿大媒体对特鲁多政府的纵容。她强调了自己坚持原则，并为维护公平正义而发声的重要性。 Celina Caesar-Chavannes：她详细描述了自己在特鲁多政府担任议会秘书期间的经历，以及她所面临的挑战和困境。她分享了自己在政治生涯中所做的牺牲，以及她对公平正义的追求。她讲述了自己与特鲁多之间的几次会面，以及特鲁多对她表现出的不尊重和轻视。她还谈到了自己辞职后在加拿大找工作的困难，以及她对加拿大媒体对特鲁多政府的纵容的批评。她强调了自己坚持原则，并为维护公平正义而发声的重要性。她认为，如果她没有公开批评特鲁多，她将无法面对自己和家人。

Deep Dive

Key Insights

Why did Celina Caesar-Chavannes decide to run for office under the Liberal Party?

She had an affinity for the Liberal Party due to her family's voting history and saw it as a way to address healthcare inequities through a national brain strategy and senior strategy.

What was Celina Caesar-Chavannes' role as parliamentary secretary?

She was parliamentary secretary to the prime minister, acting as his right-hand person and handling policy development and stakeholder engagement.

Why did Celina Caesar-Chavannes resign from her position as parliamentary secretary?

She felt tokenized and marginalized, not included in policy discussions, and used for show at international events related to her ethnicity.

How did Celina Caesar-Chavannes' experience in politics affect her confidence?

Initially, it diminished her confidence, leading to a nervous breakdown, but later strengthened her resolve to advocate for others.

What was the turning point for Celina Caesar-Chavannes in her political career?

The incident where she was paraded for an announcement she wasn't involved in, realizing she was sidelined for over a year, solidified her decision to advocate more strongly.

How did Celina Caesar-Chavannes regain her confidence after her political setbacks?

She focused on her constituents, realizing her true responsibility was to them, not the prime minister, and remembered her own capabilities and achievements.

What was the final straw that led Celina Caesar-Chavannes to publicly confront Justin Trudeau?

Trudeau's national apology claiming an open-door policy, which she knew was false from her own experiences, prompted her to publicly call him out.

How did the media in Canada respond to Celina Caesar-Chavannes' public confrontation with Trudeau?

Some media outlets removed her from their platforms, and she was told speaking out was not allowed due to her criticism of Trudeau.

Chapters
Selina Caesar-Chavannes describes her role in the Trudeau government, including her appointment as parliamentary secretary and her initial expectations.
  • Elected in 2015 and appointed parliamentary secretary to the prime minister.
  • Expected a close working relationship with Trudeau but found it lacking.

Shownotes Transcript

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with entrepreneur, author, and prior member of Justin Trudeau’s administration, Celina Caesar-Chavannes. They discuss her time in the Canadian government, the Prime Minister’s modus operandi, the use of tokenism over substantive contribution, and why she ultimately decided to resign.

 

Celina Caesar-Chavannes is a dynamic leader with an impressive track record across business, politics, and advocacy. Currently completing her PhD in Neuroscience, Celina’s research focuses on how cognitive and emotional processes intersect to influence leadership, decision-making, and self-actualization. She translates these insights into practical strategies for Cognitive Optimized Inclusive Leadership (COIL) - a program she designed to help individuals and organizations harness the power of their brain for authentic leadership, fostering deeper self-awareness, well-being, and transformation. Her leadership programs emphasize the importance of integrating neuroscience into leadership development to build more inclusive, empathetic, and effective leaders.

 

This episode was filmed on October 8th, 2024

 

 

| Links |

 

For Celina Caesar-Chavannes:

 

On X https://x.com/iamcelinacc?lang=en

 

“Can You Hear Me Now?: How I Found My Voice and Learned to Live with Passion and Purpose” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Can-You-Hear-Me-Now/dp/0735279594