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480. The Psychology Behind "Nice Guys Finish Last" | Keith Campbell

2024/9/12
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乔丹·彼得森博士
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乔丹·彼得森博士:本期节目探讨了自恋的本质、表现形式以及其对个人和社会的影响。自恋是一种有害的性格缺陷,它会阻碍个人的长期成功和人际关系的稳定。社交媒体的兴起加剧了自恋的流行,因为匿名性使得人们更容易进行自我中心的行为,而不会承担相应的责任。节目中还探讨了地位和声誉的获得途径,以及成熟与不成熟人格之间的区别。成熟的人格能够在短期满足和长期利益之间取得平衡,并重视人际关系的建立和维护。 乔丹·彼得森博士还指出,自恋者并非真正意义上的以自我为中心,而是以一时兴起为中心,他们无法控制自己的冲动,以牺牲他人和长远利益为代价来满足自己的即时需求。这种行为模式与儿童时期的不成熟行为类似,因此,自恋可以被理解为一种长期未成熟的表现。 节目中还探讨了男性社会结构的问题,指出其压迫性并非源于等级制度本身,而是源于自恋和权力支配。成熟的男性社会结构应该建立在责任和目标导向的基础上,而不是基于自恋和支配。 最后,节目探讨了社交媒体对社会的影响,指出社交媒体的匿名性和对短期关注的优化,加剧了自恋和反社会行为的流行,导致了社会两极分化。 凯斯·坎贝尔博士:作为社会人格心理学专家,坎贝尔博士主要研究自我的本质、自我提升以及自恋人格特质。他将社会心理学、人格心理学和心理病理学的研究结合起来,研究正常人格如何表现为临床人格或人格障碍。 坎贝尔博士指出,自恋有两种表现形式:夸大性自恋和脆弱性自恋。夸大性自恋者以自我为中心,具有优越感和权利感,而脆弱性自恋者则更易嫉妒和焦虑。神经质和外向性是区分夸大性自恋和脆弱性自恋的关键因素。 坎贝尔博士还指出,自恋行为并非总是以自我为中心,而是对即时享乐的追求。这种行为模式与儿童时期的不成熟行为类似,因此,自恋可以被理解为一种长期未成熟的表现。 此外,坎贝尔博士还探讨了自尊的问题,指出自尊并非通过直接追求获得,而是通过建立良好的人际关系获得的。 最后,坎贝尔博士还谈到了社交媒体对社会的影响,指出社交媒体的匿名性和对短期关注的优化,加剧了自恋和反社会行为的流行。 播音员:播音员主要负责介绍节目嘉宾和节目主题,以及在节目中穿插广告。

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Dr. Peterson and Dr. Campbell discuss narcissism, its relationship with social media, and its broader implications for individuals and society. Dr. Campbell's expertise in social, personality, and psychopathology provides a unique perspective on this increasingly relevant issue.
  • Narcissism is a personality trait characterized by self-centeredness and a focus on immediate gratification.
  • Social media can exacerbate narcissistic tendencies due to anonymity and the pursuit of short-term attention.
  • Dr. Campbell's extensive research, including over 200 scientific papers and several books, provides valuable insights into the nature of narcissism.

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author, researcher, and professor of psychology at the University of Georgia, Dr. Keith Campbell. They delve deep into the weeds of narcissism, exposing the “good guy” fallacy; why alpha males attract more women; the axis of introversion, extroversion, and neuroticism as it applies to personality disorders; and the obsession with self-esteem which only fosters misery.

 

W. Keith Campbell, Ph.D., professor of psychology at the University of Georgia, is the author of more than 200 scientific papers and several books, including “The New Science of Narcissism” and “Professor OCEAN: A small tale of personality’s Big Five.” His work on personality has appeared across print media and he has made numerous media appearances, from the “Today Show” to the “Joe Rogan Experience.” He wrote the popular TED-Ed lesson on narcissism and writes a Substack called “Explorations in Personality.” He holds a BA from the University of California at Berkeley, a Ph.D. from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and did his postdoctoral work at Case Western Reserve University. He lives in Athens, Georgia, with his wife and daughters.

 

This episode was recorded on September 4th, 2024

 

 

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