Fight Companion - June 22, 2024
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Trapped. I don't like being trapped in this Apple ecosystem. And I'll tell you something, this fucking phone... We live? Yay! I don't give a fuck. This phone does so much more. First of all, the anti-glare. The fact that the screen doesn't have anti-glare on it, so much better.

Outside, crystal clear. You read everything crystal clear. I fucking love this circle to search thing. So if you have a cool pair of sneakers on, I can take a photo of them, do a little circle of it on my phone, and it immediately pops up on Google all the places to buy it. Damn. It shows you what things. Yes. Dude, here's another one. My notes. Say if I do a show and I record it.

It will transcribe the entire set and it will summarize it for me. That's pretty gangster. What? Yes. It'll summarize it for me. It also will summarize websites. So if there's a website, you know, oh, what's going on in Russia? Some crazy shit is happening. I say summarize that for me. Could you do the cliff notes? It summarizes it for you.

Goddamn. And Apple doesn't do any of that? No, not yet. And great camera? Fantastic camera. The cameras have always been better, right? They've always been better on Android? It's hard to say better, because I have both. I'm going to tell you something. They're both awesome. It's better in certain stuff. The iPhone camera is fucking awesome, but so is the Samsung camera. Let's be honest, though. You've never taken a picture with an iPhone like, ah, I wish it was better. Nope. Never. Never. That's my point. No way to...

Professional photographer? Fuck off. But if you are one of those crazy professional photographers, one thing this does do is it zooms way better. Way better. The zoom is crystal clear. You can read a sign way in the distance. Where I've zoomed in with this, and I can see it, but I can't read the letters. And then with this phone, with the Samsung, I see the letters crystal clear. I think the iPhone is a better camera for just whipping it out and taking a picture. But you can do more with it.

I don't even know if it's a better camera for taking it out and whipping a picture. I think they're equal. I think for taking it out and whipping a picture, it's equal. But this thing has so many more options. There's all these options he's always shown me about. Like, where do I have to go? Where is that? It's in the settings. Like, if you're not into fucking around with things, get an iPhone. But if you're like me and you're, like, really into tech stuff, Android's way more interesting. But also, like, with the Apple, with the iPhone, they have, like, the...

The thing where you can shoot and cut and edit, it has all that? Oh, yeah. You can have the handheld thing? Because I don't... My crew, when we're filming whatever car stuff, whatever it is outside, they'll just have a handheld with the iPhone. Have a little whiskey. Yeah, a gimbal. Have a little whiskey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do all that. And they knock it out. I'm like, God damn, man. You do all that. Not only that, this has pro features. You could set it in pro mode, and you have way more options in terms of how you film it, what the images look like, and...

It's just way more adjustable. Can the government track you on that one, too? Oh, yeah. They track you on everything. That's all bullshit. You're never getting away from the government. I don't even believe in Signal. I've been talking to these people on Signal, like the guy Moxie who made Signal. What's the matter? My glass smells funny. Your glass smells funny? What are you talking about? I just smell something. Does it smell like whiskey? No, I mean, I smell it through whiskey. Like an old whiskey? It smells like a... Soap?

like dirty water. Sometimes it smells like plasma, something weird. You're out of your fucking mind. It smells like whiskey. No, no, no. There's whiskey in your water. I'm outside the whiskey. You're crazy. We have an awesome dishwasher. It smells, uh... Maybe size. Trust me. I mean, I got the bloodhound nose. Is your nose that good? Really? Has it always been like that? Even as a smoker. Yeah, it runs in the family. Oh, wow. You guys just have bloodhound noses, huh? Yeah.

That's interesting. I'm always the first one to smell something. Bro, when I got my nose fixed, when I got my deviated septum fixed, I could smell way better. I was like, oh my God. Forever, though? Because I got mine fixed and it just, it's whatever. I think you're just accustomed to it. In the beginning, was it better? Oh, night and day difference. Yeah. In the beginning, when you first get it fixed and you have all the bandage up there, when they take the stitch out and pull it out, you're like, ah.

I didn't get my nose fixed until I was 40 years old. For 40 fucking years, I had a shattered nose with just the whole inside of it was blocked.

It was nothing. I had like one quarter of one nostril that was useful. And that surgery is real fun, isn't it? Is that better? Well, look at Drikus Duplissis. Yes. Because I call bullshit when his coach was like, he's only breathing 8%. I'm like, come on, man. Not 8%. That's what he said. It's ridiculous. But I was like, come on, that's not a cardio thing. And they're like, wait, do you see him in this next fight? His cardio is going to be better. Way better.

My cardio was way better. Way better. My cardio was at least 10% better when I got my nose fixed. Because you could breathe out of your nose. Like, if you can't breathe out of your nose, especially if you're doing jujitsu and your mouth is getting covered all the time, you're like, all you have is your mouth to breathe out of. And also, as a fighter, breathing out of your mouth is trouble. Yeah, because your jaw is open. You can get rocked easier. For two years, I walked around like this, pulling my nose so I could breathe. That's why I got that operation. You got a hunker on your nose. My operation went bad. Did you ever get those things that stick? Yes.

Did they work? Did they do anything? Well, so they put them in there for the first 12 days. Theo has them on at all hours of the day. Theo's so crazy. He's so funny. He would just show up one day at the studio. I'm like, why the fuck are you in a wedding suit? He's like, yeah, man, I need to breathe. I'm like, all right. He's like, you ever tried them? I'm like, no. Hickson used to roll with those on.

They work. Speaking of which, where's those smelling salts? Oh, we got them. You ready to go back? It's your first companion, huh? You ready to go back in? Brian had the funniest reaction ever to smelling salts because we opened up a fresh ah, one of the fresh ones, and as soon as he opened up, he threw his headphones off and ran out of the room. If you do it now, there's not a lot of room to run. You're going to have devastation. Don't run over the fucking TV. Oh, we got a freshie. We got a freshie. Mmm.

Oh, this one hasn't been opened. Nothing better. Thank you. What do you mean? You're getting in, bro. I hate those things. Of course you hate it. Everybody hates it. I hate it too, but I'm about to do it. Let's fuck it. You got to do it, B. This is so strong. I'll do it. I'll try it. This is so strong. Look, it's sealed. Okay, I just broke the seal. You can still get it. And then the lid of the thing is sealed as well. And you still, you smell it through that.

Ah, fuck you. That's not the real deal. But look, I want you to see. That's just foreplay, buddy. It's still sealed. Yeah. God. Yeah. Still sealed. That shit's powerful. Is that the same one? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the same level? Yeah. But this is how you want to get them. You want to get them fresh. Like right when you open them. You said that's not the real deal? Oh, this is the real deal. No, the real deal. Once you open it, it's the real deal. Him smelling through the fucking bottle, that's some bitch shit. Through the bag. Smell the bag. Just the bag.

Takes me back So look, now I'm going to break the seal It's still sealed The top is sealed Get ready boys Here we go This shit fires me up Oh my god, I'm smelling it from here No, get in there B Get in there B Fuck you Fuck you

Oh my goodness.

I'll tell you what, that wakes you up before a show. We have them in the green room. We pop a little sniff before you go on stage. I leave them in my garage every morning before I get out and head to work. Really? Hit the car, dog. Oh, yeah. Damn. I got problems. You're all in. Have you had these? The Lucys? The Breakers? No. No.

Oh, these are good. They're eights. Now people are constantly sending us. Same thing. Lucy's have eights, and they have like a little mint thing in it. When you chew it, the mint thing breaks. It tastes good in your mouth. They're eight milligrams? Eight milligrams. Yeah, 24. This is their highest one. You got 24? How many do you have in there? Four. His blood pressure is very high. No, it's good. You have 24 milligrams in your mouth? He's a maniac. I go through two cans a day, Doug. What are you using? Which one? Black buffalo. Oh, my God. Maniac.

Good lord. Yeah. Yeah. You push the envelope. Yeah, that's not even an envelope anymore. You got a satchel filled with envelopes. The directions say to keep it a foot away from your face. Shut the fuck up, pussy. I got right in there, son. I had to get in there. The first time you did it, Brian, you got it up to your nose. God.

You put it like an inch from your nose and took a deep swig. I think I damaged my sinuses. Pure pressure works like a motherfucker. He says, do not use more than a few times a day. I was like, get out of the way. I'm not doing that. I would never. I said, don't be a bitch. I got it. I'll try it. Well, he just saw how fun it is. Yeah, it's a good time. It is fun. That was like the last time we did a fight companion. I go, I'm just going to microdose. And you like pushed over a giant piece of chocolate. I was like, I think that might be a little. Yeah, don't be a bitch. I was like, okay. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.

I was texting you from the plane. I can't negotiate my plane seat. Hand me the Lucy, man. One ain't going to do it for a trial here. I think there's one more in there. That's the same flavor you gave me? You already have 24? Yeah. That's the same flavor. I took the 24 out because I don't mix flavors. Well, now you get 16. So you'll have two of those. It'll be 16. Just see if your heart will stop. Yeah.

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I think there's another one called Athletic THC that I really like. I mean, not Athletic THC. Athletic nicotine. So how long have you been doing nicotine? Like a year. Why? Because it's good for your brain? It fires you up, man. It's good as like a nootropic. It actually helps your brain. It helps cognitive performance. The real problem is cigarettes. Cigarettes are not good. But the nicotine is actually good for your brain. A lot of great books were written on cigarettes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, nicotine is great. Yeah.

Yeah, well, Stephen King said that. Stephen King said when he stopped smoking cigarettes is one of the biggest issues. Like, stopping cocaine and drinking was fine, but cigarettes, like, he was like, ooh. His books got super boring. They didn't, they weren't as good. He said that he doesn't remember writing Cujo. That's why it's so good. Yep, and then he said this. He came, his wife came in, and she said, you know, she started cleaning up cans. And he goes, God,

I kept cans everywhere. He goes, when was the last time we cleaned this place? And she goes, and it was literally the whole place was covered with beer cans. And she goes, this is the past three days. And he was like, I'm drinking a lot. He didn't even realize it. Yeah, well, if you want to be good. Yeah.

You want to really write the kind of shit that he wrote when he was young? You got to push that motherfucking envelope. He can't do anything in moderation. No, he said, he actually in his book said, I was a very creative guy who had a substance abuse problem. It's not that I had a substance abuse problem and therefore I was creative. He said, don't get it twisted because I always had a great imagination, but I just like my energy. I,

I don't know. I am of a belief that it helps you. I really am. I'm not. But I do think that it's a personality type. So it might go hand in hand, right? With an extreme sort of, you know, it all comes together maybe. Maybe people who are that imaginative. I think it opens up doors in your imagination that will stay closed. Yep. And you can't get there unless you're under that. But it depends on what drug, right? I don't know about that.

I don't know about alcohol. Yeah, I mean, I've never fucked with cocaine, but he was a big cocaine user, and The Shining was all on cocaine. Great movie. Fucking great book. Fantastic. Great book. The book is insane. Unbelievable. He didn't like the movie. He felt like Jack Nicholson was too crazy too quick. Really? Yeah, he thought in the movie, the guy becomes crazy. It's a build. The guy's like a normal dude who becomes crazy during the staying at the Overlook. That was shot in Colorado. Such a good movie.

So here we go. First fight, Volkan Ozdemir. And who's he fighting? Johnny Walker. Johnny Walker. Hell of a fight. Dude, the odds are even on this. The odd makers went, somebody's getting knocked out. Johnny Walker can knock out anybody. How does he get down at 205, please? It's so hard to believe. He's so big. When you stand next to him, he's massive. Like, he easily could be a heavyweight. Easily. Dude, I want, it'd be fun if Johnny Walker wins this one. Can you imagine him and Alex? Mmm.

That's a motherfucking fight. Yeah, but is that possible? Why not? He got the Neanderthal forehead. Yeah, he's a big fella. I have a question. Why not, Joe? Because I don't think he's won enough. I don't think it's compelling. I mean, he would have to beat like a Jamal Hill. Correct. He would have to beat a Yuri Prohaska. No, no, no.

I'm not saying next. I'm saying I hope he wins and continues to win. He's about two away from it. At light heavyweight, you win two big fights, you're there, bro. Right. It's like one step below heavyweight. Like look at Yuri. He won one fight. Now he's back. Light heavyweight's pretty slim. Joe, why didn't Uncle Ioffe get that fight? That's a good question. Okay.

Because he's the biggest threat. Yeah, he's very good. Also, you know why, right? They might have offered him that fight, and he might have said no. They might have thought that his fight with Jan Bohovic was boring. I disagree heavily. I think Jan Bohovic is a fucking animal. And if you want to survive against Jan Bohovic, you've got to fight smart. Yep.

You can't ask a guy to fight stupid just so everybody can cheer. But to Dana White's point, it's a business of entertainment, too. Right, but he looked entertaining in all of his other fights. No, he had to draw before that, bro. With who?

And Kolaev had a draw before that. Who did he have with? With Jan. Oh, but again, Jan Bohovic, fucking animal. Champion. Monster. Four minutes and 30 seconds, 429, 428, 427, 426, if you want to sync it up. I like what the UFC did with Izzy, right? He's coming off a loss, and then he's been out, what, a year at least? And then they're giving him a title shot. I think that's what makes the UFC the UFC, because they're going, no, no, we're not just giving the guy a title shot who we think is next.

Like what Izzy did, his body of work, you can lose one and still be a huge draw. That stems between fucking UFC and boxing. That's true. But if that's true, why didn't Shawn get the rematch? Because Shawn won that fight, I thought. I thought it was very close, but I thought Strickland should have got the decision. Why not give him a rematch? If you're a purist, which I'm both, right? I get the business entertainment side and the purist. If you're a purist, Shawn Strickland 100% should be next. Yeah.

And he beat Paulo Costa. I thought he beat Drikus as well. But the thing is about Drikus is these guys are angry at each other. You know, there's like a lot of hype. It's a good fight to sell. All that shit talking. It'll get more views than a Strickland rematch. Maybe. Strickland's a big fucking star, man.

He's so awkward, dude. His style. Is he? And there's a story with it? Johnny's getting pieced up right now. Yeah. Old American crack. And the problem with Johnny Walker is he's been KO'd a gang of times. Yeah, his defense is suspect usually. A lot of guys have put him away. Jamal Hill. Yeah. Didn't he win his last fight on a DQ?

I don't know. The Jamal one was crazy. Jamal hit him on the forehead and his hands flew up in the air. Oh, there it is. There it is. He got rocked. I got it. He's in trouble. He's in trouble. He's in trouble already. Ozdemir might get him here. He's letting him get him against the cage like that. Get out of the way, bro. He's got to get out of there. He's in trouble. He's in real trouble. Oh, don't do that. He does a lot of wild shit. You can't do wild shit when you're really hurt. Ozdemir's

Technically very proficient. Oh, he's out. He's out. Stop it. Out cold. Out cold. But that's why I went to SPG because he needed to tighten up because he's wild. Yeah, but that's... Damn, dude. This is wild horse. That's happened too many times. That's a reflex that's blowing flying me. When you wobble, wobble.

He's a wild boy. He's just trying to be crazy, just trying to do anything. But you can't do that with Vulcan. Vulcan and Ozdemir can punch so hard. At a certain level, the fundamentals are going to beat you. Guys are that good. And Ozdemir's been out for a bit, right? Yeah.

And he had some losses, too. Oh, he's had some losses. Yeah. But he's a good striker, man. That was really textbook. Yeah, very solid hands there. Beautiful hands. He hurt him, and then once Johnny Walker gets hurt, I think he's just been KO'd too many times. I know.

Oh, there's that left hook. That's nice. And once it goes, it goes. There's nothing you can do. But this was a bad one. I mean, he got flattened. I just think Johnny Walker had all the physical gifts, but I just didn't have the kind of fundamentals like Ozdemir does. Look at that. Yeah, look at that. Boom. It's too good. Oh, my goodness. That's awful. That's awful. Out cold.

And the other thing is, like, Johnny Walker probably sucks a lot of weight to get to 205. Yes, correct. And that definitely messes with your chin. Yep. That's a terrible shot. That last shot is awful. Oh, that last shot's rough. Look at his eyes roll back in his head. Been there. When you're sucking that much weight, it's going to fuck your brain up. 100%. Depleting your body of all that water. And he's 6'6", 205. How? Hey, bro, go to heavyweight.

Yeah, go to heavyweight. Go to fucking heavyweight. He might be a really good heavyweight, man. And that is a shallow pool. Super shallow. You could lose multiple fights and still be in the hunt. And there's a lot of strikers for him. Sure. Rosenstruck. You've got a ton of guys. Yeah, but now that he's been flatlined a lot. Yeah, it might be over. Phew.

I mean, you got to think of all the different people that have gotten him. Well, remember he was doing the worm when he won and blew his shoulder out. Yeah, that was crazy. Oh, no. So Johnny Walker won a fight, I think it was in Brazil, and he started celebrating doing the worm and literally fell too hard and blew his shoulder out. It was out like a year and a half. Yeah, shoulder reconstructed. Doing the worm. Tore his shoulder apart. So dumb. Yeah, for nothing. Did you see Conor's injury? Yeah. Yeah.

Thoughts? Well... Pinky toe. It's exactly what Pejeta had when he beat Jamal Hill. He had a broken toe, too. A lot of guys have had a... Now it's the pinky toe. A lot of guys... I fought with a broken pinky toe. I knew about it in advance. Look, here's the thing about a broken pinky toe. When you're a guy who kicks as much as Conor...

It's a fucking problem. 100%. And it's also the same foot where his leg was snapped and he went into that fight injured. He's never pulled out of a fight before. Never. This is the first one he pulled out of and I think it's wise because I think if you do have a broken toe and you are going into a fight and you did go into a fight, the last fight injured, what if that fucking toe becomes a real issue? What if he throws a kick and it smashes again and he's in

agony and he can't move. I thought you and I were going to disagree on this. I couldn't agree more. And you've got to realize what's on the line for Conor, too. He loses this one, the ride's over. So why risk it? You've got to be able to get the fuck out of the way with Michael Chandler. Chandler? You fuck yeah. So you're not going to go in compromised and it's the leg that's already fucked up. You want your best foot forward, no pun intended. And he spends a lot of time bouncing on

Oh, yeah. A lot of time. That's his biggest asset against Chandler. You've got to in and out, stick a move, kicks. You can't do that with a broken toe. You can't tie that toe to the other toe? You can, but it's going to be compromised. You're still not a hundo. Not even close. Now, if this is Conor six years ago, he's fighting all day. He's fighting. Excuse me? He fought Chad Mendes with a blown fucking knee and still beat him. I know.

Yeah. And it was on short notice. Still beat him. So don't get it twisted. Like, Conor's a savage and he's a fighter's fighter. But this, I think finally his team was like, dude, I'm addicted. Okay. I'll take one of those. Yeah, boys. We got more? I don't, I mean,

The only person who drinks more Diet Coke than me. I'm good unless the cool kids are doing it and then I'll drink it. I never drink Diet Coke. Why don't you drink Diet Coke? Are you scared of astrotame? You think it's fucking poison? I disagree. My temple's super pure. I scrub my temple clean. We're going to get along, brother. You know, they fucking try to remake it to taste just like Coca-Cola.

talking about coke zero yeah that's why coke zero came about they tried to make a better diet coke but people had already left like the flavor of diet coke so they had to cook coke zero it doesn't bother me i like it it's kind of the same if it's there i'll take it i can tell the difference but you know why they came out with coke zero because the sales of diet coke were going down because men were embarrassed to order diet coke so they thought it was more of a female drink so that guy let's do coke zero what man they did that with miller they call it the champagne of beers to get women

And then they don't know their audience. Yeah, that's what they did know. But initially it came out and it was the champagne of beers. How do we get women to drink beer? Called the champagne of beer. You know, the one with cigarettes, they used to call them freedom torches during the suffragette movement. So they want to get women to smoke. It was considered like not very feminine. So Freud's grandson, Edward Bernays, was like, I know how to do this.

we'll fucking just tell them that these are freedom torches. So all these feminists now were like smoking their free. No man tells me. And they started smoking. Yep. And he's the same guy that got people to say breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

Well, that was all because the pork lobby came to him and they were like, hey, we got to get people to eat more pork. And he's like, cool. Say less. We'll just call it bacon is part of a breakfast. So unhealthy. And bacon is great. So unhealthy. How so? Bacon? Yeah, how so? All the cholesterol, all the fat? No? No.

No, nonsense. I love that. Absolute, complete nonsense. Are you an American? Saturated fat is not bad for you in any way, shape, or form. Who brought that? That is all, again, that's all the sugar movement. The sugar industry tricked people into thinking that saturated fat was a problem. How many calories are in one piece of bacon? Calories aren't the problem, brother. It's sugar and bullshit is the problem. Calories aren't the problem if you're working out.

Yeah, well, overeating is always a problem, but calories from saturated fat are not a problem. Cholesterol is what creates myelin, which is literally what the fucking brain is made out of. Cholesterol is responsible for all your hormone production. Cholesterol is responsible for so much in the human body.

It's not bad for you at all. It's just a crock of shit. What's bad for you is processed food. What's bad for you is sugar and excess of carbohydrates, bullshit food, seed oils. There's a lot of things that people get connected to that they connect to and they say this is bad for you because of this. But actual real bacon is not bad for you. Not bad for you. It's just fat. Fat is good for you. Look, if you're on a ketogenic diet, which is very healthy for you, ketogenic diet, those people eat a shitload of bacon.

That guy's a fucking stone cold killer. Diego Lopez? That's a fucking fight, bro. Has he knocked out everybody he's fought? Not everybody, but pretty close. That's a great card. He's fucking terrifying, man. I'm trying to remember who he reminds me of.

Diego Lopez and Brian Ortega is a fight, son. How about this Anthony Smith-Roman DeLizze fight? How much has that card changed? It was supposed to be Jamal Hill, Khalil Roundtree. Khalil Roundtree falls out, and then Jamal Hill's going to go out against Carlos Olberg. I'm like, ooh, I love that. And then Jamal hurts his knee, and then Carlos Olberg, for some reason, is out. Why is Olberg out? I don't know. And then he's supposed to fight Anthony Smith, and Anthony Smith stays, and now he's playing homeboy. When did Michael Page get into the UFC?

Recently. He had one fight. That's going to be a great fight. That's another great fight. I can't wait for that. I want to see if he gets away with all the shit at this level. Well, he's going to fight Ian Gary, who is really tall. But I don't think he's going to be able to hit that dude.

You don't think he'll do very well? Michael Vanden Page, no. I disagree. Michael Vanden Page is a different thing. Oh, he'll put his lights out. You think so? Really? Really? Yeah, I think Ian Gary's the next. He's it, man. That dude's so talented. I think he's sensational, but he's been hit before, and he's been rocked and dropped. Michael Vanden Page is a different thing inside the octagon. Michael Vanden Page has been hit before, too? Right, right. By Diego Lima. Correct. Or Douglas. Douglas Lima. Douglas Lima. Vanden Page on that.

Interesting. I like Page, but I think he engages that guy.

I think he's going to have a really hard time finding that guy. You know what I think? You saw the Kevin Holland fight? Yep. He was like, where the fuck is he? He couldn't find him. Couldn't even touch him. True. That elite point fighting style with all the MMA skills that Michael Venom Page has, that is one of the most puzzling problems to deal with inside the Octagon. And look at Alex. Thriving. Piera. Thriving. Right. But it's not...

Alex is not a point fighter. It's a different style. Yeah, I'm just saying his elite level of striking makes up for the other holes in the game. Sure, but we've had elite strikers before. The difference with Michael Venn and Page is Michael Venn and Page is an elite point fighter. His style of hitting and not getting hit and being able to close distance really fast, fucking nobody's like that. Wonderboy? Closest? Close, but not at that level. Not that level. Wonderboy was a kicker.

kickboxer very elite striker very elite kickboxer but the difference between kickboxing and point fighting is that blitz that blitz and michael venn and page is so unorthodox i i think that could be one of those fights remember when francis and derrick lewis were gonna fight and we're like bro this fight's going one minute get ready and it went to a decision so boring right

Sometimes when you have those two high-level strikers and it's that style, I'm not saying it's going to be boring. There's a chance it can be really fucking boring because it's so calculated, so strategic, and neither guy wants to engage. Michael Venepage has never been in a boring fight in his fucking life. He's amazing. Michael Venepage is an entertainer. Some of those Bellator ones are tough. He's great, don't get me wrong, but some of those Bellator ones were tough.

I'm interested. I'll tell you what. You might be right. You might be wrong. I'm interested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think that he is the most difficult puzzle on the feet I've ever seen. Hard to find a guy who can spar like him, too. Kevin Holland couldn't do a fucking thing to him. Couldn't do a fucking thing. Kevin Holland is a good striker. A very good striker. I mean, he's a complete fighter, Kevin. But he's a very good striker. He didn't even come close to hitting him. That dude was just not there. It's a different thing, man.

And he's tall as shit. There's no disrespect to Holland. I think Ian Gare's at a different level than those guys you mentioned. I think so, too. And his movement's different. His size is different. His confidence is different. But Ian is also used to fighting guys that are shorter than him. Yeah. And Michael VandenPage is the first guy that's taller than him. He's taller? Yeah. He's taller than Ian Gare. Yeah, or the same height. Similar, yeah. It's not like a huge advantage. But also, look, age is a factor as well.

That's true. That's true. Ian's not even in. Ian's just getting his prime. Dude, when those guys are like 27, 26, 28, good fucking luck. And they get so much better so quick. Yeah. The first thing to go is speed. It's kind of interesting that Ian, Gary, and Colby never came out because Ian was calling him out. Colby said he declined it because he's not famous enough yet. That's so crazy and so incorrect. Yeah.

It's so incorrect. Wait, wait, wait. Who was saying that? Colby was saying he's not famous yet, but meanwhile, Colby's lost most of his last fights.

I think it's an interesting fight because Colby is a motherfucker, man. Talk all the shit you want about that guy, but that guy can close the distance. He can fuck his fucking gas tanks off the charts. Do you know that his foot broke 30 seconds into that fight with Leon Edwards? Yeah. He had a broken foot. It's broken in three places. He came to my show in Miami. He was still 85%. That was three weeks ago. So that was a real fucked up foot. Oh, no doubt. He was walking on it tender.

Yeah, no doubt. You fought that fucking dude for 25 minutes with a broken foot in three places? That's a bad motherfucker. Also, Leon Edwards is the best striker in the division. Yes. He's the most technical, the most dangerous. Sure, but he was in that fight. I love watching Leon move. Just the way he moves. Just the technique, the precision. Everything is just so fucking...

Everything is just so it's just like a waste of movement. It's like what you want to see in an elite striker. You see in Leon. I also like him because there's no there's no really shit talking. He's not on Instagram doing TikTok dances. He's great. Just respect him for his fucking. Look at me now. Look at me now. Great story. Headshot. Bang. He's the fucking man.

Yeah, he's a fucking man. You don't expect him to sound British. I still don't. Every time he talks, it's a surprise. We'll see what happens if Islam goes up there. Did I ever tell you the time? I think I've told it on the podcast before. Did I ever tell you the time that there was this dude that was, I don't want to say who he worked for, but he was a bodyguard, and he talked shit to Leon Edwards when Leon was with me. I brought Leon to a show. Leon did my podcast. Then I brought Leon. We did a show at Chappelle. Me and him were hanging out. Then afterwards, we all went out to this club.

this after-hours party that David set up. Okay. Dave sets up these shows. He does the shows, and after the shows, he likes to set up a party. So he has a DJ. He brings in food. It's a fun hang. But it was at the end of the night, and this guy decided he was going to kick everybody out. And for some reason...

He singled out Leon Edwards and he got in his face and he said like, hey man, I fucking told you it's time to leave. And then I got in between him. I said, I know you probably made some fucked up mistakes in your life. You're about to make the biggest one. Do you say you know what that is? Exactly what I said. I said, I pulled him aside. What'd he do? And he like went like a ghost. I go, that's one of the baddest motherfuckers on the planet. You're about to make one of the biggest mistakes of your life.

I go, he's cool. There's no reason to talk to him like that. He didn't do anything wrong. He doesn't know. He's here with me. And he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He chilled out. After he sees him knock out Kamaru, he's like, oh no. He sees his life pass before his eyes when he was watching it on TV. You want to go viral, bud? You can, but it's the wrong way. I was like, if you're going to do this, let me get my phone out.

That's like the guy fucking with Joe Schilling. Like, tried to pick a fight with him before that. He was mouthing off to him the whole time before that. And Joe's like, Jesus. Oh, was he? He was mouthing off. I thought he was a dick to people at the bar. He was a mouth off to him. He was mouthing off to other people at the bar. He was mouthing off also to Joe. The whole story is that he was just a dick from start. And Joe's like, are you kidding me? You can kind of see that. He seemed like a dickhead. Just the way he was behaving. Isn't that...

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One of the most wonderful instant karma videos of all time. Oh, the greatest. It's like one of the greatest viral videos. Fuck with Joe Schilling. The best. Karma put one of the scariest humans alive in front of him. You don't know this? No. This is a scene about Joe Schilling, who's a friend of mine, he's a world champion kickboxer,

elite elite strike savage dude like you would look at him go that's not the guy i'm gonna fuck within the bar so joe shilling is at a bar and he's trying to walk past this guy to get to the bathroom the guy backs up as joe's walking he doesn't see him and joe bumps into him puts his hands on this is it right here so this is the guy this is the dickhead he's been fucking with everybody he's talking shit he's real loud and drunk so that's joe in the black shirt joe joe's like excuse me he passes by and the guy says something he turns around

The guy flinched. See how he just flinched at him? The guy flinches at Joe like he's going to hit him, and then Joe just hits him with that three-piece and a soda. And then he walks away like it ain't shit. That's the wrong guy. The wrong guy. I mean, the fucking wrong guy. Boom, boom. And you got to understand, this was the end of a long, he was fucking with Joe and everybody else the whole time. That guy tried suing Joe, and Joe won. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's Florida. It's stay on your ground. Like, clearly the guy flinched. Yeah. Like, went like that to make him flinch. Yeah.

And you don't do that to a guy that's a fucking train striker. We need more of this. Yeah. We need more of this. And Joe is the farthest thing from a bully, by the way. Super nice. I've hung out with him many times. He's the man. No hesitation, though. Yeah. Because the guy, wrong guy. But the guy,

But the guy was picking fights. He was picking fights with other dudes at the bar, too. He was causing all these problems with other guys. He was trying to pick fights. But, I mean, you rarely see people that, like, get right to it. Yeah. Oh, right to it. It's usually like, shut your fucking mouth. Yeah. Who you talking to? Just bing, bing, bing. Wrong guy. That's his language. It was like a reflex. Wrong guy. He's fluent at knockout. That's his language. It's just the wrong guy. Yeah.

Straight up. Joe Schilling, he fought in this battle in Los Angeles where he had to fight three times in one night. Remember that? Last Man Standing and Glory? We went there live. It was fucking insane. He fought three times. And this against world-class kickboxers. And then this dude who doesn't work out came off his day job at REMAX. He was like, I'm going to get fucked up.

That guy just left Best Buy with a fucking bonus check in his pocket feeling cocky. But the best thing about Joe Schilling, world champion kickboxer, most decorated American kickboxer in history, he smokes. Cigarettes. He smokes fucking old school cigarettes. Oh, you've seen the picture of him in our gym. The guy smoking cigarettes. That's Joe. He's like Clint Eastwood if you find him. When the video first started and you said that's him in the black shirt, I thought it was the nerdy looking dude.

I was like, oh, unsuspecting. But no. Mikey Musumechi looking dude. Yeah, you're right though. He look like somebody you don't fuck with. No, he's also like big. Right. He's awesome. Look at his fucking face. It's like a great white shark. Out of all the people to talk shit to. He just smokes. And his voice, he's fucking Nick Nolte with his fucking world class hands. Deep voice. Yeah. What? Tatted up. And then look at that guy. You gotta love moments. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, he's like talking shit. I told this guy I'm going to beat him arm wrestling, like whatever the fuck he's saying. Look at him. I thought it was him. Just shoulders. Just an accident. I mean, just a bump and he had to talk shit. I mean, the dumbest move. Hey, fuck around and find out. Fuck around and find out. That is, if fuck around and find out was a viral video, that's it. I would love to be the level of ready to just have a two-piece in the chamber at all times. Dude, you can get there, man. Yeah.

Yeah, it's not impossible. No. It's not impossible. It's like my brothers that start riding motorcycles when they're 40. Nah, it's past you, Bob. You can learn just a mean combo for the Austin Bars, though. Yeah, don't get a fucking Hayabusa, but you get a Harley. Yeah. Or you get a pistol. Just run around. Just get a pistol. Yeah, by the time you get that pistol, you're already asleep. Unless you have a quick draw. Did you see the...

You got a hawk toy spit on that thing. It's massive. She's famous now. That girl. One video. Have you seen it, Brian? Yeah. Hawk toy. One girl gets interviewed. I love moments like that where one weird video, it's so funny that the whole world sees it. She's the most famous person on the planet right now. So the one I saw on Instagram, the top comment underneath it is another woman being like,

Nobody needs, you don't have to spit on it. And then it's just a thousand news. It's like, somebody taught you wrong, bitch. People aren't telling you the truth. Spit on it. Especially the way she says it. It's so good. She's not pretending. She said it like she passed, but she got a certificate. She's not posing. That lady's a black belt spitting on dicks. I wouldn't be that into a girl going, huh?

I would be into her. Yeah. Her enthusiasm? Yeah, you would if she did it. I know some real passion there. But if you hear a girl go, you're not going to be like, wait a minute. Hold on. Let's see it, Jamie. I'm trying to find it.

Didn't I send you a bunch of good versions? The memes of it? The original one has how many views now? It has to be 100 million. At least. I wonder how she monetizes that. I wonder what she's doing. She's probably panicking. Everybody knows she's making money. Is she? Yeah, she's making money. There's merch now. There's like Hawk 2 merch. Oh, I need to buy a shirt. Yeah, bro. These kids, man. They own that. They own that social media. See Hawk 2 24. Signed an autograph. Look at her. She's signing fucking hats.

Only in America! Only in America! That is hilarious. Let's hear the video.

That's fucking hilarious. It's just the way she says it. Right up there in the corner. Yeah. I know, I know. I already clicked two of them and they didn't have the video on it for some reason. Christ, what a weird, what a world. What a fucking world. And it's only been like four days, right? When did it come out? Yeah, I don't honestly, it happened fast. I mean, where are the dudes? Who is the Hawk Tua girl taking over TikTok? Because it wasn't her original video. She was doing an interview, right? Yeah, some guy in the street says, what do you have to do to make a guy crazy in bed? Shit, sorry, like.

Once upon a time, two girls were out on the town in Nashville, Tennessee. When a... No, no, no. Don't fast forward. To which one woman replied... Oh, you gotta give him that hook. You get me? You get me? Look at her laughing. She's laughing so hard. I wonder if her dad's like, what the fuck? Like, imagine being her dad right now. Yeah, but her college is probably paid for now. Nah, her dad knows.

Yeah, I wonder how much money she's making off of this. Hopefully a lot. It is smart that she jumped right on it because you got to think it's only been a few days. I know. Oh, someone blew her up in the DMs. June 11th. It's 10 days. So it's 10 days. There are a handful of other videos on Tim and Dee's page featuring the Hawk to a Girl and her friend. Since then, TikTokers claim to have found the woman, but the account is now repeatedly deleted. Oh, she might have deleted it. Possibly doesn't remember being interviewed. She got blackout drunk.

It's in Nashville. She's probably hammered. Yeah, she's doing her thing, having fun. Shower bullet. Here we go. Where's her references, though? I would like to wait on the dudes whose dicks she's sucking while she's just talking. Those guys are about to make some TikTok videos, just like sitting there with a cup of coffee on the porch. Let me tell you something. It's real. Netflix is about to do a doc on it, man. This is a good fight. Tricoli is good. Call it the throat goat.

That guy on the left has one eye, Brian. The guy on the left has one eye, and he only can fight in other organizations. That's why he can't come out here. In other countries. Because he can't see. He can't see out of his right eye. So they won't let him fight in the United States? I don't believe so. He's never fought out here. Most people think that's why. One-eyed UFC fighter Shara Boutin Magomedov lands killer role for acting debut in a new Hollywood movie. Oh, nice. He's going to be in a movie soon, too. Hey, bro, if they name him Ed Off, I'm not fucking with him.

Yeah. Any kind of off? He's a scary striker, too. Who? He's fun to watch. But his depth perception's got to be all fucked up because he's only got one eye. You need two eyes for depth perception. That's Bisbee. Yeah. It fucks you up.

It fucks, but it doesn't matter. He's that good. He's that good. He's had like seven different operations on the eye to try to fix it. He was from childhood, right? It's kind of a sad story, right? It's from a fight. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it's from a fight. I'm pretty sure. Because he had the operations while he was competing.

I think it was something that happened during a fight. I may be wrong. For some reason, I thought it was when he was a kid. Jamie will find out. I'm pretty sure the injury happened from a fight. Also, how do you even not, like, you don't see shit coming from that way? Nope. He doesn't see shit out of that right eye. He's got a giant... What does it say? Head.

He had to get the right eye removed completely after losing vision. Holy shit, man. If they get infected, that's why. The eye gets infected. Suffered early in his career. Before the operation, I was afraid of an infection. God. Dude, one eye, redhead. For fuck's sake. They don't take your eyes out anymore. With a crazy beard. They don't usually do that anymore because you have cones in your eyes that sense light even though you can't see and it regulates your circadian rhythm. He's in Dagestan, man. I know. I know.

They take that eye out. But it fucks your sleep up. Well, there might have been something wrong. Yeah, they were saying something about infection. Because they get infected a lot. But they took Bisping's eye out, right?

No, he still has his eye. He wears a plate over it. Yeah, he wears like a lens over the top of it so it doesn't look so weird. But it's just so people don't stare at his eye. But he's still got his eye. Tricoli's good though, man. Shara Bullitt does weird shit. He's wild, man. Wild kicks. He throws kicks like a jab. He got punched twice in the face from the direction he can see it.

Isn't this his UFC debut? No, no. Shara Bullitt's fought at least once. Hell no. Twice. Yeah, he's a fucking huge prospect. Isn't he fought twice? Yeah. At least once. I think twice. Just once? Well, this article was he was 11-0 and he's only 12-0 now. I feel like this is his first fight. Signed last year. No, this isn't his first fight. So this is his second fight in the UFC. At least second fight. He said he signed in 2020? Yeah. Yeah.

But, you know, he can't really fight in America. Like, the Nevada State Athletic Commission, they're like, there's no way, pal. You can't see. Like, you have to be able to see out of both eyes to fight in America. I'm sure there's some places. Well, we're in Saudi Arabia for these fights. No, I'm saying in America. Oh, yeah. Like, you bring them to Kentucky, they're like, go ahead, fella. Mississippi. Yeah, go on. You can close both your eyes. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. Hot tub. Spit on that thing. Hot tub. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

That girl had no idea that thing went fucking viral. You never know what's going to hit, right? Yeah. She's just being funny with her friend. You never know what's going to be a popular video and what's not. You just got to keep doing them. Here's one thing you do know. If you try hard, you won't get one. That's for damn sure. Isn't that weird? Yeah. Yeah. That don't stop people from trying. Oh, they try so hard. But the people that I know that try the hardest have never gotten one. Never.

So Tricoli just wants to take him down. Shower Bullet has terrible takedown defense. That's his liability. Also doesn't get up well. And even in his UFC debut, he got battered on the ground. Bro, how about the main event was about to be Bo Nickel, but he was hunting in Montana and didn't have an Android phone like you guys and had no service. Yeah, interesting. He was going to take that fight.

I would not have advised that. I wouldn't either, but he was down to do it. Yeah. He struggled a little bit with Cody Brundage, and Cody Brundage is nowhere near...

Robert Whitaker will change your fucking life. Well, Robert Whitaker might be the best 185er on the planet. It's up for debate. He's up there. How do you say that when... Well, Drekus. Drekus beat the shit out of him in one round. Drekus beat him. He's fucking good, though. He's very good. And he was a former world champion. He was number one at the time. He'd just be Paulo Costa. Certainly in the top five. I don't know a shitload about him, about Bo Nickel, but I just keep hearing his name.

He's the man. They're hyping him up. Well, he's an elite wrestler. Real top of the food chain, blue chip wrestler. And, you know, he's getting very good at striking. He's basically our LeBron James, but he's white. I wouldn't say that. His wrestling is super hard. That's a ridiculous thing to say. No, the hype on him is insane. Yeah, the hype on him. He's from like out of high school. Hold on. So here we go. This is why you make the comparison guy like LeBron, because he's in wrestling. Since he was seven, he was selling out fucking shit.

Huge auditoriums wrestling. Dominating. Then he's on a world tour. Then he's one of the best ever at Penn State. Then he goes on a world circuit. He's a three-time or four-time NCAA champion. I think he won it as a freshman, right? This is crazy. Anyone the Heisman of NCAA wrestling. We're missing a good fight for this. Very good fight. What were we going to say, though, Joe?

I was saying that the difference is LeBron has been dominant and famous on a world championship level for so long. It's more like a Jon Jones. Jon Jones is more like the LeBron of MMA. No, he's talking about LeBron. I'm saying that as a prospect. You know what I'm saying? As a prospect. Because there's so much pressure on him. And he has how many fights? Yeah, I would advise a guy like that to not fight in the UFC for a long time.

I think you should get to world-class level before you get to the UFC. It's tough because outside the UFC, he's so dominant. He's fucking so dominant. So you need to get a strike him up? Yeah. On the world-class level? 100%. Because once you get there, if you're not ready, it's a marathon, not a sprint. You got to go train with them Dagestani boys. Go fuck them up.

He'll fuck them up in wrestling. He did already. He's beaten a lot of Russians in wrestling. His thing is his striking. Very good. He's going to work on his striking. But hold up. His striking's not, like, awful. It's not awful. His thing is combining the striking and wrestling, putting it together like JSP did. That's right. Once he gets that, okay. But Bo Nichols, a guy who's been watching...

The human body move for a very long time. Me too. And his timing and everything. Jack shit, what the fuck does that mean? I'm not going to beat Hamza. Timing, takedowns, everything. So they have an easier time. A lot of times guys like that, they're a learning curve.

It's a lot steeper. Well, elite athletes have a quicker learning curve. That's for sure. He did it. He's an elite athlete, no doubt about it. I mean, Bo's got massive, massive potential. But even Johnny Hendricks, remember his timing? He learned how to throw that. Not world class, though. But he would knock dudes out because it was the same time. Johnny also, pre-Usada and post-Usada Johnny are two different human beings. Correct. Really? Really.

Yeah, it's like you and Mike Tyson. It's like they're two totally different human beings. Different species. Post you saw them, Johnny Hendricks is like, what? Where'd you go? Like, where'd you go? But also, you want to watch Johnny's fights and go, man, that's world-class striking. He had a big fucking overhand left. He just had to take a time at well. Oh, he was a tremendous power striker. That doesn't make sense. Why get worse when they're not testing anymore?

No, no, no. Once they started testing. Oh, okay, okay. When they started testing, his body melted. There's a lot of those guys. There's documentaries online about Johnny Hendricks pre and post USADA. He's one of the biggest examples. To be fair, though, those were the times. In those pictures, you don't see much. I mean, you see a little bit of a difference in the physique, but what's really the difference is in the shocking power. He would just put guys to fucking sleep. Power, cardio, the way he fought, confidence. Aggression, confidence. But also, to be fair to Johnny, those were the times. Everybody was on it.

Everybody was doing something. Fuck yeah. Name somebody. Go ahead. Because that was my era. Everybody was doing something. Those were also the TRT eras where you could do it legally. Not everyone. They'd turn me down, whatever. They'd turn you down for TRT? Yeah, they wouldn't have it. Why would that happen? I don't know. Haters, man. I think it was already weird because Nate Marquardt was from your area. Correct. He really fucked us up. He got popped alien level. Yeah. They were like, I remember that fight got canceled. We were at the weigh-in and this fight got canceled. And I was like, what is going on? They're like, he's at like a...

He could die. His levels of testosterone are so high. He was alien. Was he in 1900 or something? No, he was like 24. It was something insane. He had nitrous oxide in his fucking bloodstream. And then all of us were going to the same doctor. And then that doctor was like, see ya. Closed up shop. Like, hey. Yeah, probably a good move for the doctor. They just got the deposit, bud. Well, a lot of these doctors are dorks. And they think they're going to be able to take these out. I know what I could do with you.

Because they did our, you know, they're just like, oh, TRT's legal? Great. We're going to fucking bang you up with all these other different things. But they don't get the commissions and all that. No. And you're dealing with high-level sports. Right. And how many of those doctors have ever been, like, through the whole testing process? That's why Balco is so big. Mm-hmm. Yeah, sure. The clear. You know who I fuck with now? I'm in...

Shit, probably the best shape since I fought is that Transcend with like peptides, TRT. What's Transcend? It's a company? It's a company and they're like, you do your blood work like probably at least every two weeks, every three weeks and they monitor everything. Right, you should be taking this, this, this and this and it's a script plan. They send it to you. Oh, nice. You just start taking everything and then they check your blood work. Like that's what Cowboy's on, Bradley Martin, like all the, like,

Peptides I hear really... That's what I do out here with Ways to Well. Same deal. Ways to Well is exactly the same. I've never felt better. I've never felt better. Plenty of peptides. They have stuff for your cognitive. For me, I need my fucking brain after getting punched. So cognitive, energy, everything. Because I had a doctor. He looked great. 65. He's a friend of mine, Jeff. He shows up at my show and I was like, what are you doing? He goes, peptides.

Yeah, peptides are incredible. That's why they keep outlawing them. Really? Yeah, they got rid of thymus because it was helping people get over COVID. That's how you know they're good. No reason for it to get rid of it. Now they're trying to get rid of BPC-157. No reason. That shit fixed my stomach. BPC-157? Yeah. Shit's magic. This fight is interesting. Now I'm a guinea pig. I shoot myself about seven times a day, but whatever. As long as you feel good. Oh, yeah, I don't get fucked. You know what irritated me is the debacle people. The debacle people got caught because they had a...

They went through the trash and they had their names written on the list. That was Novinsky, right? I was like, how the fuck you got my name? Novinsky caught him, yes. The Balko people? Yeah. Novinsky's the head guy that caught him. Yeah, they caught him going through the garbage. Victor Conte's the man. Victor Conte knew his shit, man. Fucker. Yes, please. How you do a crime and write it down and put it in the trash? I'd be pissed. If I was Barry Bonds, I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? That is funny. Do you know what's at risk here? You put a signed baseball in the trash, bitch? You ruined the fucking game.

Yeah, that's how you get caught. Dude, homeboy can kick. He's kicking his lower legs. He's doing that Piera thing where he doesn't turn his hips over. He just soccer kicks your fucking calf. He's tough as shit. Oh, Joe. Oh, my God. Joe, let me ask you this. If you're back to the Conor thing, if you're Michael Chandler, what do you do? Fight somebody. You fight somebody. Yeah, Max Holloway, BMF. I hear people are talking about that fight. That's an amazing fight. Mm-hmm.

He needs money. Doing the sphere. You can't not fight for two fucking years. He's pretty good. He's very smart, has a bunch of businesses. I'm sure, but wouldn't it be nice if he was making millions over those two years? Even if you're doing well, two years is a long time. He's got a family. Yeah, and he's paid pretty handsomely from the UFC. Yeah, Max Holley, him, BMF title. I like Max at 55 anyway.

Mm-hmm. I smell it. I do, too. But the problem is they want Topuria versus Max. That's what Max wants. I don't like it. That's what he wants next. You don't like that? Well, don't get me wrong. That's a great fucking fight. Yeah, I like Max at 55, especially now. He's getting a little older with his output. I think he can do a lot of damage there. He's not old, dude. He's like 32. Bro, in fighting years, he's 77. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Sort of. How many punches he's thrown? He's 77 years old. But he's so smart. His style is so good. Dude, outside, and if Islam goes to 170, I mean, I don't see why Max can't be champ. I'm the best boxer in the UFC. What a maniac. Who the fuck is impossible to take down? Shara Bullitt. Well, he's gotten a lot better with his takedown defense, but Tricoli's not exactly Bo Nickel. No. It's a good fight. It's tough, though.

Rough, but the thing is like Sharable. It's gonna face this with every that was a nice elbow in the clinch. Yes me a dice Wow, oh he just hurt your Koli trouble. Oh look at that. Yeah, he did dropped on the same. Yep. Oh

Dude, what do you do if you're the UFC and you put all this stock in Hamza? Eventually they just go, fuck it. Fuck it. We got to move on. So did he get food poisoning? Is that what happened? Somebody from his team said that. But then they backed off that story. Such a bad story? Come on, fellas. Did they back off the story? I think so. Yeah, I think so. I think Darren Till said something. I don't remember. What are they saying there? Bo Nickel alluded to the fact that he's always partying, like hanging out all the time. No.

Hamzat is? Yeah. Interesting. Well, Hamzat's got a lot of bread, bro. He does? He's got a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. He's hanging out with some people that have a lot of money. And the same people Khabib's hanging out with. You ever seen what Khabib has? Yeah, he's got some money. Have you ever looked at the land he owns in Russia? Well, when you're friends with Putin...

They take care of their athletes, especially when you're fighting? Bro. Also the Arabs. Also the Saudis and stuff. Yeah. Khabib is wherever he goes and should be. Well, Hamza is friends with that Kardiav guy. The guy who's the leader of Chechnya. Yeah, he won a Nobel Peace Prize. Did he really? No, he did not. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? He's not the... He's...

He is not... He's a warlord. There was a guy who used to fight for the UFC who left the UFC and went to work for him. And like his second guy. Who's that? Some dude. And then he wound up getting killed. Kardiov. I forget the guy's name. Yeah, but he fell out. And then... Yeah, Kadyrov's father was blown to smithereens. And I believe he witnessed his father. Do you think they're arguing about pronouns out there? No. In fact, in fact, in fact, Hollywood basically...

what was it, boycotted Chechnya because...

It is Amnesty International said that the Chechen government was killing and torturing gay people. Oh, they definitely are. Yeah. The Chechens went, oh, no. Yeah. He was like he was actually in the new light year. No, Kordyov had a ceremony because he was sanctioned more than any other leader by all the Western European countries in America. And and he was given an award for being basically the biggest asshole. He threw himself the award.

He was awarded. With Homsat, it's tough with the UFC because A, we don't even know if he can fight in the States. He can't fight here. And then...

Yeah, I don't know what that's about. He has the longest COVID ever, right? He keeps getting hurt. Well, the problem with him is when he got COVID, he would not stop training. And so he had full-blown COVID, and he was just beating his body into the ground every day. It's a shame, man. Multiple times in the hospital. I know, it's a shame. He's a fucking boogeyman that might never come. But when he fights, it's fucking pretty goddamn exciting.

Although I did think Kamara beat him in the third round. I was like if that was a five round fight That's a difficult fight for him. Yep, cuz you're dealing with a real champion knows how to pace himself guys been there struggled before knows what it feels like so he really doesn't have a Significant win at 85 never be 85 or not a real good one Joe Merrill short, you know, he's beaten a couple of guys Not like not that short no not that tip of the spear. Excuse me. The Usman thing was no not Robert Whitaker

Right. But I think the fact that he come in having two fights in two weeks. In the early days of his career, he did that. Yes. I think that forever has him in Dana's good graces. Yeah. Well, he's also incredibly exciting. Dude, Tricoli's taking it now. He's one of my favorites. He's taking a beating right now. Well, Shara Bullitt does wild shit like hook kicks off that front leg. That's why you like him. He's got a crazy gas tank. Look at him. He keeps hammering that front leg. He does hook kicks from an open stance, which is weird. Not even bladed.

He stands like an open stance, like an MMA stance. Look at that. The way he throws that front leg. His left leg is so interesting. Also, nothing's better when you see a dagger standing, you assume wrestling, and then they're all striking. Like Zabit. Isn't it weird? When you see him, you're like, what the fuck? God, I miss Zabit.

The man. By the way, what's-his-name is about to fight Whitaker. He's got a hell of a jab, and he's a very good striker. Yeah. Al Scariff's good, man. He's very good. He's very good. It's a tough fight for Robert Whitaker. Yeah. I actually think he's going to win.

Alice Gareff? I do. Interesting. I'll tell you, well... What? It's a good fight, I'll tell you that. Alice Gareff, the only loss that he has is Hamzat, and Hamzat caught him with a perfect uppercut. And Hamzat said it was his toughest fight ever. Yeah, now, yeah, and... Oh, Ciccoli's in trouble. He never took him down. Ciccoli's hurt. Yeah, I knew this was going to happen. He's just too tired, man. He's giving up. I love the body shots. Oh, he dropped, and that's it. Shara Bullitt. Wow! Shara Bullitt!

Let's go. Damn, that was good. Well, he just kept getting caught with shit. With one eye, bro. One eye assassin. Good for him. And he showed way better takedown defense in this fight. So obviously he's been training on that. Way better. But obviously, Tricoli's, again, not an elite wrestler, but fucking good fight. There's not enough hours in the day to get him to elite level wrestling. Bro, they're so close to creating new eyeballs. Give this guy two eyes, he's going to fuck everybody up. I hope so.

Michael Bisping's going to be reading signs at a distance. I hope so, dude. Yeah, they're close, man. Are they really? Yeah, they're close to developing artificial eyes. There's so much going on with medical science. Yeah, there is. But they can't fix hair. You know what? He might not want to fix hair. They can kind of grow your hair back now. How? If you get on it early. Look at Cowboy. Cowboy has a full set of hair. Yeah, but he got a hair transplant. Fuck that. I want to grow hair. When are they going to do that for me? Dude, even if I had hair, I'd shave my head.

I really would. No, you can't. Oh, no. Yeah. No, you can't. You can't be home and suddenly you have a whole head. It doesn't. No, it's. I have a good head for being bald. I wish I had shaved my head earlier. I really do. I'm surprised they didn't know how good I look bald. They don't have dick transplants. They do. Word? Yes. They use your thumb. Yeah, people have had their dick blown off like soldiers and shit. They use your thumb. No, they give them a new dick. They give them a donor dick. Yeah. But they can't give you donor balls. You know why? Because the balls will always forever contain the sperm of the person who died.

So, like, if you died and you gave your dick to Brian, Brian would have your kids. Brian would be able to shoot your- That's better than nothing. But it's crazy because you could shoot someone else's loads into a person and make your kids. Wow. And you're not even alive anymore. That'd be pretty lit, though. Pretty lit. If you get the right genetics. If you, like, sign off on it. Yeah, yeah. If you say, I agree to let Brian have my kids. He's a good dude.

Brian's like, I'm down. How tall is he? He's probably got a big heart. Let's go. Donate my dick to science. Your DNA won't even be mixed with it a little bit? Nope. Nope. 100%. It would be the person who owns the testicles, their dick. They could fix that with stem cells. No. No, no, no. You can't fix that. I mean, it's literally the DNA is embedded into the testicles. So your DNA would be, it's not like for the first couple of loads, it's

It's forever. Forever. Forever. How far away do you think we are from all that? 20 years? Well, they've given people dick transplants. Right. That's already happened. I'm saying like eyeballs and being able to grow tissue. Yeah. About 20 years. Yeah. But they're also going to be able to, I think in 50 years, you know all this transgender shit? They're going to be able to change your sex. Yes. For real, for real. Yes. Yes. They're going to give you double X chromosome. You're going to go to XY. As soon as you can go back and forth, we're in trouble. Yeah. Yeah.

Right, but we're the XYs. We're the last of the Mohicans. You know, one of the things that they found is that Neanderthal DNA in humans, none of it is the Y chromosome.

They can't find Neanderthal DNA in Y chromosome. They find it in X chromosome. So it's all women being fucked by Neanderthals. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's all human women being fucked by Neanderthal men. That makes sense. Or Neanderthal women being fucked by human men. No, it's just a caveman. No, no. No. Okay. No, it's the Y. You know, we're XY. Women are XX. You cannot... They can't find the Y. Let's lease an article I read. I don't know if it's accurate. Facts.

Wild but it makes sense yeah, do you know there's a theory that Neanderthals you know we want to think that Neanderthals look like us They're just different kind of like fucked up heads and big bones. They were real thick They were just like way heavier and denser But there's this crazy theory that they looked like gorillas and that we don't know what they looked like on the outside And that they had big eyes that they could see at night like cats damn because they had eyes are much larger than our eyes They were just smarter than them

Yeah, but also there's theories that they hunted us. There's some pretty cool documentaries on it. Wouldn't they be more thinner? No, they were bigger. Were positive they're bigger? Yeah, they were short but really heavy. They were like 5'7", 210 pounds, and like freakishly strong like a chimp. So they're built like you. Yeah, but freakishly strong like a chimp.

Not like a human, like me, I'm strong for a human. They're strong like a chimp because massive bones, massive tendons, everything's dense, much bigger, thicker, heavier bone structure, everything different. Is that what makes chimps so strong, their tendon strength? Everything makes them strong. First of all, how much plyometrics do those guys do?

Goddamn. They're just throwing their body through the trees every day. Park tour. Throwing themselves around. But just no, just neck and head. I don't know how accurate it is. I mean, head and shoulders. But I also heard they don't have any medium body.

twitch twitch muscle it's all fast it's all fast or slow and they go from zero to a hundred when it comes to anger like gentle like rubbing a baby or just rip your fucking arm off that makes sense that's all you need in the wild the wild you ain't running any marathons you're not out there jogging nice slow jog working on your fucking zone two Cameron Haynes isn't there's no zone two in the wild I'll run the animal down shower bullet one tooth two one eye one tooth giant head he was on the prelims too they bumped him up

Yeah, well, they've lost a lot of good fights, which is just how it goes with this fucking sport, man. It's been really rough this past month. I know, especially this card. Jamal Hill versus Carlos Oberg.

I was really looking for Jamal versus Khalil. Khalil is fucking scary. And for Jamal, I kind of like that Jamal... I hate that Jamal hurt his knee, but I kind of like that he's not jumping right back in after getting KO'd. Because I know everybody wants to do that because I got to get it back. But the reality is he got fucking flatlined by one of the scariest punchers ever.

on earth. They're doing him a favor. I'm not saying he couldn't win the fight. I think for the longevity of his career, it's better that he got hurt. Oberg's fucking scary, too. And so is Khalil. Khalil fights like you just killed his dog.

He really does. Khalil's terrifying. And his fucking technique is so sharp. Here we go. Oh, Calvin's next. Calvin. Versus D-Rod. Misses all that weight. You know he has a show called Missing Weight where he eats food? That's hilarious. And then he missed weight. He was eating tacos. He goes, definitely ain't making weight. And that came out like a week ago. He is a wild, rough dude. He's so talented, too. Bro, I had a conversation with him maybe eight years ago at the store.

Eight years ago. He was always at the store. Always at the store. We were hanging out, and I said, Kelvin, if you just got disciplined and dropped down to 170, you're a world champion. He's like, I know. I know. I know.

Meanwhile, here we are. Eight years later, he's fighting 185. He's like, I know, I know. Check out this new show. That's crazy. Check out this burrito I just ate. That's so funny, man. Yeah, because he's 5'8". I mean, he's not taller than that. 85, yeah. Think about it. Even at 85, I went toe-to-toe. One of my top five middleweight fights, him versus Izzy. Oh, my God. How about when Izzy at the end of the round said, I'm prepared to die? He goes, there's no problem here. Gangster. What was that, Jay? I don't know.

He was like looking at Adam and said, I'm prepared to die. Well, that's because... Who was it? Um...

Who's the ref? Herb Dean goes, you know, you okay? He goes, is there a problem? He goes, there's no problem here. I'm ready to die. Is he different level? Different level shit. Is he? There it is. Rating best tacos ever. Missing weight with Kelvin Gaslam. That is so funny. It's so funny that it's called that. That was four weeks ago. It's so funny that it's called that. That is such a funny, funny name.

Does he own the place? Nope. No, he just does a... He just loves tacos. Like a lot of these guys, they have to do something as they're phasing out of their career. And some of them do a podcast. They do different things. But Kelvin's just known for being...

I mean, he's just an incredible fighter, but not that weight. That's not his weight. But meanwhile, he goes down to 170. Who does he fight? Sean Brady, who's a fucking gorilla. Sean Brady was here on the podcast. He's the man. He was walking in front of me, and we were walking into the studio. His back is like a triple back. It's got triple back muscles. He's fighting Gilbert Burns. Oh, I like that. When is that?

They announced, I think, September. I've talked to people that train with him, said his fucking top pressure is awful. Savage. What's he weigh? What's he walk around, 200 probably? Oh, easily 200. I'm 200. He's way bigger than me. Like, I'm looking at his back. His back was fucking massive, man. Jesus.

He's so thick. Yeah. So fucking strong. And elite technique, man. His jiu-jitsu technique is so good. But he's a wrestler first, right? He started out wrestling, black belt in jiu-jitsu, but really good striking, too. But he's got that one loss. But, you know, it's to Bilal. Bilal's elite, too. Bilal's fucking good. No one gives him credit. Now, when Bilal being like, oh, Brady's just not very good. And then you find out Brady's pretty fucking good. And that's how good Bilal is. Yeah. Yeah.

Balal's really fucking good. That was also Balal training with Khabib and Islam and those guys in Dagestan, which I think brought him to a totally new level. Balal told me that just standing up against Khabib is pretty much impossible for him. Good story, dude. Hey, give me the lighter. D-Rod. D-Rod. He's a fun one. D-Rod can throw his hands. He was so pissed because Kelvin was so heavy he couldn't even do a catchway, bro. Headline fight night, September 7th. Let's go. Look at Kelvin.

D-Rod was pissed because he was like, bro, who doesn't make weight? And he goes, we were down to do a catchweight. He's too heavy. He came to do a catchweight. Wait, wait, wait. They were supposed to do a catchweight? What was it supposed to be? I think they tried. So they were going to do 175, and they're like, you can't do it. 180, you can't do it. God damn. So Kellen did make weight, though. He made 185. He made 185. Well, 185 is what they agreed to. But D-Rod also trains with Joe Schilling. Yeah. LA's Finest.

But D-Rod started as a boxer, I think, yeah? He's fun. This will be a good fight, as long as it doesn't go to the ground. This will be an entertaining fight, yeah. I think it's going to be a slugfest. It should be, most likely. Calvin is fucking dangerous on the feet, man. His combinations are so fluid.

He's so sharp and fluid off the feet. It's just like if Kelvin had the kind of discipline that Kamaru Usman has. World champion. World champion. World champion. You remember when he fought Uriah Hall? Fuck yeah. I mean, everybody was like, Uriah Hall's the next Anderson Silva. And Kelvin's like. He beat him in the Ultimate Fighter finale. Yep. It's a cool story. Check this out. He's a beast. I mean, come on, man. He's a beast. Where did he wrestle at? How about when he knocked out Bisping?

In China? Yeah. I hated that for Bisping. That drove me nuts. Oh, Tim Kennedy? Oh, Tim Kennedy. There's the Bisping one. I mean, bro. Oh my God, he's a beast. He is a beast. He's a fucking animal, man. All those clips are from a long time ago. That's the problem. He had the window. I don't mean to be a hater, but... The window was there. The window was there. That was some real hate. I was hating. I think he trains out of Cejudo's camp, right? Yeah, they're boys. Yeah.

They're both drinking and eating together. They're treating their ass off. That was from 15 years ago. But that's real, man. I wish that guy would show up. That left hand was something serious. Fuck yeah, he can crack, man. It's so hard to maintain the fucking grind, and that's what's up. Especially if you don't love it. I think after a while they don't love it anymore because it just breaks their body. And also the worst part of fighting is cutting weight.

Those last five pounds is the worst of the worst. And you're getting older and he enjoys food and you're out for a while. Or just injuries too, right? To cut out, to get weight cutting out of the sport. That was me. That was only me. Nobody listened. I fucking brought it up to them the moment they bought the UFC. I pulled Ari aside and I said, hey, this is what you should do. You really want to do this? Blow up the weight classes.

Cut out all the weight cutting. Make a big deal about it. It's the most dangerous thing in the sport. Outside of getting kicked in the head, it's the most dangerous thing in the sport, and it's unnecessary. Getting kicked in the head is a part of the sport. There's no way you're going to get around it. But the most dangerous thing outside of that is weight cutting, and we can eliminate that. Is it too late, though?

Yeah. Oh, it's never happened. They don't listen to me, man. How would you do it, though? No one listens to me. No, but you can't. No one listens to me. You need weight classes. And then also, Joe also wants there to be no cage and have it on an open field. Brian feels the same way. Talk about karate combat. That's fucking stupid. When we went to karate combat, man. I'm plenty stupid. I don't know about the fighting itself, but when we went to karate combat...

It was just more entertaining to not have the cage in the room. No, you gotta have the cage. It started as cage fighting. No, no, no, no. You don't have to have it. What you need is a basketball court.

Well, we went to see Gordon Ryan compete Thursday night, right? You see everything. We saw him on the mat. But there's still a mat, but it's not a basketball court-sized mat, right? It's a big-ass mat. But still controlled. Right, but it's a big-ass mat. They also got to stay in bounds, though, right? Yeah, they got to stay in bounds. They move them back into bounds, which is what it should be. Well, the Karate Kombat shit had like blood sport.

walls yeah with a ramp yeah little ramps and but you can't have ramps though because then people would use the ramp it's too easy to get taken down it's too easy to get taken down when you get pushed to the ramp but people use the cage but the cage stops you from getting taken down the ramp you fall right right the cage is someone's pushing you and you're near stairs you're gonna fall down but you know what did you know what it cut out it cut out all the like all the running away yep it for it forced the action yep it does it does yeah i agree behind the ring

I think a flat surface is the move, the large flat surface, and then have danger zones where you can get a point deducted if you enter into the danger zone too many times. If there's like a warning track on the outside, make the warning track big enough so a guy can adjust and get back in. That makes sense. But too many times in the warning track should be deducted from your total score, and you could have a large enough surface. And everyone would be able to see everything. We'd be able to see everything. How would you get them to not cut so much more? Or we can elevate that motherfucker.

No, but then people fall off and they die. But you lose if you fall off. No, no, no, no. Like sumo then. Yeah, sumo. Or like kumite. Some other way to lose? No, no, no, no. Here's the thing. For Dana, it's a business, right? So we got to sell this thing. It's tough to fucking sell. Like PFL has the playoff system. I was watching last night. I'm like, the fuck? Look, if Dana loses 7 million one night and strokes out and they come to me, that's what I'd do. I'd tell them, this is what you're going to do. Strokes out over 7 million? He just goes crazy. Fuck it.

He's Joe what should we do bro just ruin the business hanging out with him gambling will give you the craziest fucking anxiety? Oh my god, I walked in and he was $600,000 down. Did you see him on the same on Shannon shop on a club station? No, I didn't he's great on that He was great on there and he he talked about it openly. Yep. He was like his dream and

is to bet a million dollars a hand. He wants to bet a million dollar hand. And him and Shannon Sharp started reminiscing about this old blackjack place, and he said his strategy is, his first bet is always the

the highest. So he goes in on the first bet with the highest. That's a high. But he also explained, I didn't hear him, I don't know if he talked about this on Sharp's podcast, but on Schultz's podcast, he was talking about, because Schultz brought it up, he goes, and you're banned from those casinos? He says, no, no,

It's fucking stupid. I'm not banned. What happens is I win so much and I take money from them. So what they do is the reserve, whatever it used to be, 10 million, they drop it to like 5,000. So I'm just not going to play there. He's like, nobody gets banned. He goes, you only get banned if you're cheating. So anyone that those rumors on ban, he's like, I'm not banned. They just don't want me to play there. They did something with him back in the day at the Palm. He talked about it. Yeah. He said what they, he took him for so much money. They went cool. And he went back.

like shortly after he won all like millions of dollars came back and they're like yeah your reserves five grand now he's like the fuck not no I play like a million like not anymore because they don't want him there they pulled the rug from under you yeah they're like no you can play Red Rocks is like come on down that's where we went we went to Red Rocks it was nuts man it was your hands get sweaty just watching them

And then him and Taylor, Taylor Luan was gambling with him. And he tells Taylor how to bet in five minutes. They were down $120,000. And I'm just sitting there. I'm scratching. I'm sweating. I can't take that shit. I don't like, I don't like, like that kind of gambling doesn't make sense to me. I'm like, yeah, you know, the experience is fun when you, when you, when you have a good dealer and it's just you and them, maybe you and a couple of friends that, you know, and the dealer's telling you how to bet. So you don't got to be an expert.

Yeah, it's like 20 bucks a hand. Right. We're talking millions though? I don't care how rich I am. I can't do that. I'm with you. I couldn't do that either. I think I could do it once as an experience, but when they're going like...

Like a few times a week? Yeah, I don't get it. Or he's on vacation and hires somebody to do it on the boat? I'll tell you what I like. I like gambling on skill games. Like gambling on pool. If you're gambling on pool for a lot of money, I want to watch that. That's exciting to me. Gambling on cards. Like who knows what the card's going to be? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. It's not for me. You don't like games of chance? No. I don't like them at all.

I don't like them at all. I mean, I know there's skill to it. I understand there's ways that you can make it lean more towards your advantage. Here we go. I like games where you're in control of your own destiny. Here we go. Look at Kelvin. Wow, D-Rod's coming out hot. Yeah, he should too. Yeah, well, especially probably thinks that Kelvin's probably out of shape.

I mean, Calvin had a tough camp. He's always thick, though. And with skinny-ass legs. Yep. You know, he doesn't have big legs, but damn, that dude gets some power. And his gas tank's ridiculous. Look at his butt. He got that corn-lay body. He got zero butt. He's a guy who you wouldn't think can kick ass to that level.

Oh, he's so good. He's such a stud. He's so good. If you fought him on the beach, you'd be like, all right, well, this guy looks like he's out of shape. I'm going to whoop SpongeBob's ass. He's built like SpongeBob. Didn't somebody show that having that little gut gives you more power? Absolutely not. No. You don't want that. Hips. Hips. But he's got, look at his back, man. I mean, he's not small. His back is dense as fuck. And he has one of the greatest chins. He's also got speed, actually. He's surprisingly fast, man.

Yeah, he's got like fluid combinations, man. And he has a head like a Rottweiler. And look, his head movement is good. He's very skillful. He does everything high level, of course. It's just a discipline thing. Yeah, it's just a discipline thing. I think he could have been an absolute world champion at 170.

It's almost too late now. What is he, like 35 now? How old is he? Yeah, he's not old. Well, 35 is tough. How old is Kelvin, Jamie? He's been fighting for a hot second. 32, I think. 33. 33? 32. 32? That's crazy. 32. Bro, that's crazy. As long as he's been around, Uriah Hall's out of the game.

Uriah Hall's already done retired. How many fights does he have? He could fight. He could suck down at 70 and fight three more years if he really gets serious. He's not going to suck down at 70. Also, those guys down at 70, they're enormous now. You missed that boat. 28th fight. Monsters. 28th fight. He's 32. It's tough. At 170, it's very tough. Well, also, those 170 guys are gigantic. Imagine him and Michael Venn and Paige.

Michael Vanna page is so big, you know, how about Michelle Pereira before he dropped out made they made him fight up to 185 He was so big. Yeah, I'm gonna fight a dead walking around with people that don't cut There's a few but it's very rare now Frankie Edgar is like the last of the Mohicans when he was fighting at 55 He actually weighed 155 pounds

But damn, he was so durable. Because he didn't cut the weight, he could bounce back. He wasn't depleted. These guys all deplete the fuck out of themselves. Yeah, now it's like a science. It should be. Frankie fought at 55? Yes. I thought he fought at 45. No, man. No, he started his career at 55. That's amazing. Because the 55 was a huge two. He beat BJ Penn at 55. He beat BJ in his prime at 55. His fights against Ben Hendo? I mean...

Gray Maynard? Gray Maynard fights are crazy. Whenever you see a fight that gets stopped too quickly, watch the fucking Frankie Edgar-Gray Maynard fights because Jesus Christ, they could have stopped those fights a hundred times. Damn, nice jab by Kelvin. Nice jab.

Bro, people forget Kelvin is fucking good. And if you're just going to stand with him, you're just going to stand with him. It's super dangerous. His footwork's incredible. He's beaten and almost beaten the best in the world. It's his head movement, man. His head movement's incredible. And it's just, the punches are so fluid. He does everything well. He reaches like, look at that.

But D-Rod's solid, too, man. But he can stand at the edge of the pocket, man. He knows exactly how far your reach is. Look at that. I'm surprised Kelvin's not going for a takedown. Could be a cardio issue. Look at the way he's standing. He knows exactly. He hardly ever does, though. You know, Kelvin... A guy like D-Rod, you'd probably want to shoot it in on, but... Look at this. He's having success on the feet, though. Oh, good combination. Catching them left and right, dude. Oh, Kelvin. Kelvin's teeing off. Kelvin's going to win this fight, man, if he's...

This keeps calling. How can you say this? It's 122 in the first round. Because I'm watching DRock get caught. You got ahead of your wheels. Am I over my skis? Yeah. I'm over my skis. Sorry, guys. I'm an aristocrat. I use rich man sport analogies. I think that's the right analogy anyway. I think over your wheels doesn't even exist. I think I made it up right there. You got over your skis.

It could be over your wheels, though, man. I guess. I mean, you're on a unicycle. Uh-oh. Oh, D-Rod. Look at this. Nodding. Calvin's got a head like a fucking... How you taking a left hand like that? D-Rod. Ooh, good shot by D-Rod. It says slugfest. It's exactly what I expected this to be. Yeah, and that's what Calvin loves. He loves these kind of exchanges. He forces guys into these extended combination slugfests.

Look at that. Oh, body shot. Damn. Nice feint up top and then left to the body. So I assume if Kelvin wins this fight, he's just going to stay at 85? Ugh.

You know? Why not? Why not? You got a cooking show. You got a food show. You're never going to beat those Drekus Duplicy guys. Those massive 85ers. God, he's exciting. There's guys at 85. 70 is even deeper. Right? It's true. Look at Kelvin. Look at his head. Look at his head moving. Slipping. Oh, he has one of the best chins ever as well. But he can also slip really well. He sees those shots coming. He stands right in the pocket. Look at this. He probably should do some boxing. Agreed. Agreed. I'd like to see him fight Jake Paul. How about that? That'd be an interesting fight.

Yeah, it'd be hard to sell. Get some money. Yeah, it'd be hard to sell because he's not a big enough name. Yeah. Yo, how many people are counting out Mike Perry? Isn't that interesting? I'm not counting him. Bro, it's wild to me. And then in all the comments, like, oh, dude, you must think it's bare knuckle. This is box. And I'm like...

Oh, you don't know what a fucking dog Mike Perry is. Yeah, he's a pit bull. You need to do your goddamn research. There's no quit. He's a game bread pit bull. He's been getting your fucking face for all eight of those rounds. He was like, oh, this is a gimmick fight. I'm like, you're a moron. But you're into Mike Tyson fight. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, Mike Perry is dangerous. That's a super, super dangerous fight. When is the Mike Tyson fight?

It's supposed to be in November. Supposed to be. But that is, who knows if it's ever going to happen. I mean, Mike has ulcers. He does. He's a 58-year-old man with ulcers. The most old man thing ever to get out of the fight. Oh, Mike. That's like a CEO problem. Yeah. He got on a plane. Yeah, Mike Perry's fighting in July. It's July 20th. Yeah. The Mike Tyson fight is in November. Yeah.

In Tampa, Florida, which is like Mike... That's Mike Perry's like... That's his source. That's like the land that gave birth to him. He's Tom Cruise down there, though. He's the man. And he's become very famous because of Bare Knuckle. Look at Kelvin. He's the face of Bare Knuckle. He's not tired at all. He's fine. Dude, a guy that... Because remember, in the UFC, he wasn't a huge name. He was fun to watch. We didn't have like a great record. And we're like, all right, he's fun, but he's not going to be a world champ. Leaves. So I'm going to do Bare Knuckle. And then just...

starts being the shit out of all these fucking Hall of Famers. It's such a fun story, dude. Bro, you got so many pouches in your mouth, you sound like a squirrel. He's like a squirrel over there. Are you going to say something? Because as I was talking to you, I go, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you wait for me to finish, you go, bro. Old squirrel shop over there. Old squirrel shop.

Oh, D-Rod just left. Nice left hand. This is a very good fight. Hey, man, give me some of those smelling salts. Oh, let's go. Take it easy. Now you talk. I can see you, man. Time to come back. Let's go. Get in there, Shaw. Get your hips into it. Yeah. Let's go, Brian. Oh, man.

Come on, you're good, you're good, you're good. Man, that one's tough. Devil horns, devil horns. Swimming. This is power, bro. Can I go back in?

Fuck yeah you can. Give me one more, bro. Does that shit wear off? You got it. Push it back. Back. Back. Back. Oh, dude, no hands?

I had no idea you could dance so well. Yeah. Once I get the chair under me and I feel like my legs fit in this little thing. I'm about to take a salsa class.

I want to learn how to do the... Really? Yeah. I take salsa every Sunday. You will take one class and then you'll blow off the next one. Really? Yeah, you'll call in like... You sure as fuck can't do it in those Uggs. Me and my wife have salsa... Uggs. We come to the house and teach us. Usually it's Crocs on. Oh, no, Crocs, my bad. You can't salsa with Crocs? Brian Simpson has two separate Crocs that he wears to the mothership. One Crocs, which are walking around Crocs. And then he changes them in the green room and puts on his stage Crocs. What? Dude, so...

What? Respect. That's amazing. Respect. I hate Crocs, but respect for that. But my kids had Crocs. Kids love Crocs. Dude, I just, middle of the night, took them through in the trash. They fall off. They're so comfortable. I don't understand what everybody's saying. Those are what? Salahi Crocs. What's that? It's a collaboration between Crocs and the vice president of Versace.

So this is his special... Oh, it's like a finger... It looks like a fingerprint. He's missing Gaston. Gaston's a ghost right now. Look at that. Oh. Well, yeah, let me see. Look at that. Oh, D-Rod. D-Rod came back there. Nice. He's missing. He's catching glove. Catching air. He caught him with a left hook and a right hand right there. D-Rod just looks a little stiff. D-Rod's tired. He's older, too. D-Rod's tired. Oh. It's a great fight.

It's a slugfest, man. Brian, you just wear those Crocs for comfort? You're more about comfort? Mostly, yeah. But I've got a fucked up pinky toe. So sometimes my feet... You and Conor McGregor. The show just hurt my feet. It's one thing you guys have in common. Conor, training regimen. You have wide feet? Yeah. Super wide feet. You're asking random questions. Because he wears so many Crocs. I don't know. Nice cap kick and a right hook. I got all the colors.

Oh, nice job. Yeah. When Calvin gets jumping around on them feet.

Oh, this is a wild fight, man. Calvin moves his head, man. He's got--he's just so good. This fight will get you very confused as to what kind of punches you can actually take in the face. Calvin looks as good as he's ever looked. I'm sorry. No. Come on. That's not true. Did you see the Izzy fight? Shut your fucking mouth. It's so not true. It looks great. It's so not true. He looks great right now. He looks good. He put away world champions. Okay, I get a little excited. He has huge-- Oh, good left hand. Yeah, that was a good left hand. The Tim Kennedy fight. God damn, I can breathe after those things.

Every time I think of Gaston, I just think of, I just remember the interview where he had some kind of shit on his skin. You know what I'm saying? Like staff? Yeah. Yeah. Kelvin did? Yeah, he like. Oh, that was a good left hand by D-Rod. We Saudi Arabians like these fucking Mexicans in five. Oh, finally, takedown. Finally. With zero seconds to go. That counts. That's it. That's the end. That's a good way to end the round. And so is this the co-main? No. No. What's the co-main?

uh volkov and uh sergey pavlovich oh that's a tasty fight that's good and they were training partners in the weigh-in and this they the ufc did this to me and mitrione at the waynes volkov goes why would you accept this fight he's like i didn't they're like they said you did he's like i didn't they start fighting that's what the ufc does i don't know who knows if they do it now but back not except but ask for it right like when uh joe silva called me to fight mitrione they call me and he called me dragon goes

Mitch Jones asking to fight you, man. I don't know if you guys are friends. He wants to fight you. I went, Matt does? He goes, yeah. You got a contract that's in Toronto if you want to fight. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, let me think about it. I call Matt. I'm like, dude, what the fuck? You want to fight? I thought we were friends. He goes, I don't want to fight you. I told him no. That's hilarious. So what, you don't fight your friends? Yeah, you don't want to, but sometimes you have no fucking choice.

Hey, bro, we need this bread. Exactly. Throw me the fight. Like me and Shane Carlin had an agreement where we would never fight each other unless it was for the title. That's a good agreement. Yeah. Titles, different animal. That changed your life. Oh, this is the third round. I thought that was the second round. Oh, left hand by Kelvin. It can ruin your friendship, though, right? Yeah, but you got a family, man. Especially if you do something to somebody. You really fuck them up. But title shot, that'll change your life. You win that, you're talking about...

It's real money. It's everything. That's why you started the sport. We're friends. Yeah. At the end of the day, it's a one-on-one sport. That's right. It's an individual competition. That's the only way you get points, right?

pay-per-view points well you not only do you got to win the title you got to defend it then you get points oh so you don't get points on the no oh man does anybody get pay-per-view points on the title possibility don't you get pay-per-view points if you're headlining now no if you're a main event no no gaslam gas is rugged you have to be a defending champion it's just rugged and and depending what weight class too like mighty mouse didn't get uh uh pay-per-view points for until his like fifth defense or some

Because UFC's argument was, yeah, we're putting you on there. You might be made a vent, but we stack the cards because you're not bringing in the viewership. What goes down in November? Do they have November set up yet? Jon Jones, Stipe. Is that 100%? Pretty hundo. Jon Jones looked at it and took a training? I'm so against that. You're against what? Why? I don't want to see Stipe fight no more. The last fight I was like, he's done. And if this is going to be Jon's last fight, I want it to be a challenge. Brian Simpson makes a stand. I don't want to see Stipe fight no more.

You want to see him fight Tom Aspinall? Yes. Like, imagine him going out like that. Yeah. Really, what I want is the time machine, and I want to go back and keep Francis Ngannou there. I love that Francis made a ton of money. I love that he dropped Tyson Fury. I do not love the Joshua fight. That was sad. Watching him getting KO'd like that against Anthony Joshua, I was like, ooh. Tough.

It's like you're just fighting one of the best boxers that's ever competed at heavyweight who's a knockout puncher who really knows how to box, who's an Olympic gold medalist, and you've had one boxing fight. One. Good idea. It wouldn't get sanctioned usually. One against a hell of a fighter. One of the best. But a guy who's been drinking and doing coke and barely paying attention. And didn't take you seriously. Yeah, didn't take you seriously, and you dropped him, but then... He also might have had an incentive to keep that fight going for a long time. I'm not saying anything, but... What? Yeah, I said it.

Who? Mike Tyson Fury. Shut the fuck up. He may have had an incentive. You're ridiculous. No, I'm not. You're so wrong. No, I'm not. You couldn't be... Oh, yeah, Calvin got him down again. You don't know what they're... You have no idea.

I have no idea. There's not a chance in hell. There's not a chance in hell, Kel. There's not a chance in hell that Tyson Fury carried him. Huh. He was terrified of his power. He got dropped with a furious left hook in the left round. He got rocked in the eighth round. Bro, it's the same thing that you see in the Usyk fight. He's not all there anymore. Those fights with Deontay Wilder took something out of him. 100%. Deontay Wilder, in those days, was the most terrifying knockout puncher in the history of the heavyweight division. Wow.

And he dropped him twice in that last fight and rocked him bad. And I feel like we don't appreciate Deontay...

Wilder as much as we should. You know how it is, man. Once a guy loses, you start thinking about him as the guy that just lost. That's so wild to me. Yeah. I don't. I don't. I don't either. Especially for somebody that started boxing late in life. I think. He started when he was 23, Bill. I don't think. And he's a bronze medal winner in the Olympics at 23. Do you not hear him talking? Yeah, but I'm just saying. I'm finishing my thought. Yeah, but you're finishing your thought while he's talking. That's kind of crazy.

Yeah, but we were already having our conversation, and then you moved on. I'm saying that the idea that Tyson Fury didn't have a bag of tricks and he didn't carry them, for me, it's very strange to me. It's very strange. I don't know. Maybe he didn't train at all. He looked fat. He looked out of shape. You know he was partying. Everybody said he was partying.

He's one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, for sure. But he's also fighting a mountain of a man with insane physical abilities that caught him with a vicious left hook in the second round. If he was carrying that dude, all that shit would be out the window after you get dropped and rocked like that. Oh, goddamn. Here it is. Boom. It's a weird thing, too, because you want Francis to go on and make all the money, but you selfishly wish he was still in the UFC to fight Jon Jones. But even if he fought Jon Jones, he...

He made 10 times more money fighting Tyson and Anthony Joshua? Yeah. He probably did. He probably did. He did. Yeah, I don't know. Do you know what he made? What did he make for the Tyson Fury fight? They announced it. No, I think with the paper, it was like almost 20. Wow. Yeah. And then Anthony Joshua, probably another. Good amount, yeah. Yeah, I just think with boxing especially...

The thing is, no one had seen Francis fight as a boxer, and no one knew what to expect. He surprised everyone. But then Anthony Joshua got to study his style and see the holes in his game, and he exploited them like a fucking professional. And that's what I said. I said the shock factor is gone, and when he fights Anthony Joshua, this is how it should work.

You're going to see how it really goes down. So the MMA guys are like, man, Francis do it. Maybe I'm jumping into boxing. Yes and no. Yeah. Because when he fought Anthony, that's really how it should work. That's how the world should work. Right. Unfortunately. Right. Unfortunately. Yes. But I'll tell you what. If Francis had gotten into boxing...

when he got into the UFC, he would be a heavyweight champion of the world. 110%. Speaking of knockout artists, can we tank his flowers? Oh, my God. Devontae Davis? Oh, my God. Don't be talking about how he's not a boxer. That motherfucker is so technically... Why are you saying that? He's one of the best. Well, hold on. He's the best knockout artist in boxing today. Yeah, easy. Easy. He knocks out everybody. Everybody. He sets up his power shots like a fucking...

And it's crazy. Nothing special about the way he looks. Physically, he doesn't look like a power puncher. He just looks like a regular guy, but his fucking power is extraordinary. And then that little extra something he got from being around Floyd for that little bit. That helped for sure. He and Bud Crawford. Him and Floyd hate each other now. But he and Bud Crawford are in a class by themselves. Crawford's another one. It's just incredible.

Well, I mean, very, very different styles for sure. But Gervonta is the most economical. The thing is, like, he keeps you backing up and he wears you out without even using too much energy. And then as he gets you into the later rounds, you're starting to slow down. And he's just warmed up. His boxing IQ is wild. Wild. Those high-level guys figure your patterns out. They just figure out what you're doing. You see all of these things of him, like, breaking down his opponent. And then they watch the fight that happened. And he was exactly right. He's a technician, yeah, when it comes to boxing. Yeah.

But that's what makes the really good guys good is they can figure you out. What he's been doing since he was a child. Calvin won this fight, right? Yeah. He had to. Here's the decision. He had to. Tell you what, I'm really excited. I love how the Saudi Arabian government and the people, the royal families throw in massive money. The way they spend their money. And they want to do Terrence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez, and I'm all in. All in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

How dope is that guy went, oh, I like boxing. They go, why don't these two guys fight? Like, it's money. He goes, oh, I have money. Yeah. Oh, okay. Hey, you guys fight. We have a lot of money. Yeah, and we've

We print it. How much? And they're giving it to us. And the boys are getting paid. Let me tell you something. Saudi Arabia, they could come to the UFC and go, we will buy you for $200 billion. Oh, that's going to happen. That's going to happen. And then all of a sudden, the UFC is Saudi Arabia. Yeah. That's what Dana was saying to Shannon about fighter pay. He was like, yeah, these guys got so much money, they don't care if they lose money. He's like, I care if I lose money.

Unless he's gambling. Well, yeah. And then in the same conversation, he was like, yeah, I bet $100,000 a game. Here's the whole thing on fighter pay. And obviously, back in the day, I was super hard on it. But my argument has kind of changed, too, where... Because you're not a fighter no more? No, but as a businessman, you're on the outside looking in. You can argue all you want about fighter pay and how much they should be paying.

What other leagues are around? You know what I'm saying? Like, you look at the longevity of the UFC. You look how massive the UFC is off their pay structure. They're doing something fucking right. Oh, yeah. As far as business. Yeah. They're doing something right. All these other leagues...

Listen, I watched PFL last night. I watch everything. I'm a degenerate. There's nothing even remotely close to the UFC. Closest thing is one championship. Because they'll do some jiu-jitsu. They'll do Muay Thai. And they have high-level guys. Their production is really good. Dude, it's UFC and then everybody else is so far behind, man. And everyone's like, oh, we've got to change fighter pay. It's like, we can. We can. That's affliction. So it's this weird thing. Let me ask this. Is the PFL still doing that wacky point fight?

thing. Yeah, I'm watching last night and you know, I'm balls deep in the finals. I don't know what the fuck is going on. I don't know what the fuck is going on. It's too confusing. They made it complicated for no reason. Explain that. It's so weird. They have a playoff system. It's also like if you win by knockout, you get X amount of points. If you win by submission, you get X amount of points. And that affects your pay?

I don't know. No, so the way they're standing. Yeah, so they put you in playoffs like seeds. So there's a regular season, there's the playoffs, so you have to have a certain amount of points to get to the playoffs, and that depends on your seeding. So a win is three points, a draw is one point, loss, zero points. Round one stoppage, three point. Round two stoppage, two points. Round three stoppage, one bonus point. That's stupid. Now describe that to a casual. Yeah. Example, fighters win the first round TKO, six points. Get out of here with all that. That's so dumb.

I hate it. And a submission is one point? None of it makes any sense. And they have no stars. It's fucking tough, dude. It's tough. Stoppage. Submission counts as stoppage. Is this for if you're fighting in a tournament? Well, it is. So they have a regular season. They have a playoff. And whoever wins the playoff becomes a champion. You get a million bucks. Listen to me, PFL. Abandon ship. Stop it.

Abandon ship. Stop. No one likes it. No one loves MMA more than us, and we hate it. I fucking hate it. And then also, get rid of Bellator. Just make it all under one banner. Quit trying all that shit out. PFL's good. It's a good name. Well, how did they decide the UFC rankings?

Based on who's winning. It's voted on. It's based on the experts are deciding. Experts are a loose term, but yeah. It's like the press. A lot of press. Yeah. Experts are a loose term. Same way like the BC rankings, BCS rankings. They're the best rankings we currently have available, and most people agree on them. They're very close to what I would say are accurate. I very rarely disagree with the rankings. Oh, that's me.

Yeah, the only time you disagree is like the pound for pound list, which is stupid anyways. Pound for pound list is so subjective. Yeah, it's so weird. It's like John Jones or Islam. You could say Islam. You could say John Jones. I see both arguments. And then the goat pound for pound or the goat list –

I see GSP. I see the argument for Mighty Mouse. I see the argument for John. It's time period. I didn't know Rose was still fighting. Yep. Yeah. I don't like the fact she's fighting at flyweight, though. Dude, how about Paige Van Zandt is doing slap fighting? Is that real? Ugh.

Bring it up, Jamie. Why? Paige Van Zandt, it's announced. She lost that porn star. Flyweight, how come? She got dropped by a porn star. She got dropped, but it was a draw. In the rematch, I think in November. Is it a real porn star or is it only fans? It's still a real porn star. It's real to me. It's real to me. It's real to me.

It's real to me. You don't like Rose at flyweight? How come? I think she's better at strawweight. I think at strawweight at 115, she carries power. She's big for the weight class. She knocked out Joanna Janjacek. She's really legit at that weight. I think at 25, it's probably not as hard for her to cut the weight, and that's why she wants to do it, but I just don't see it, man. Right, right. I just think she's a flyweight contender. She's a strawweight champion.

You know, and she's had incredible fights at Strawweight. Oh, yeah. This does nothing for me.

Me neither. There's a massive fan base for it. I can't figure out. Your boy Tony's balls deep in it. Loves it. But he is pro wrestling. He's a pro wrestling heel. I loved it coming up. Tony who? Henslip? When we were kids? He loves it. Yeah, me too. I loved it when I was 12. Yeah, me too. Then my dad was like, Hulk Hogan's not really. And then my nuts dropped. Yeah, then my dad was like, you know Macho Man can't fight, right? Paige Van Zandt competed at Power Slap 8, Slap Fighting debut. Okay, don't do it, Paige. Here's my question. Why?

Well, when she fought Rachel Ostovic at Bare Knuckle, I'm like, please, ladies, you're both so fucking pretty. Don't ruin your faces. The prettiest girls in the sport, please. Save that for the warlocks. She's so hot, too. You guys should just abandon it and start making out. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She stayed relevant, though. Slap fighting? I get being relevant, but she also makes a ton of money off OnlyFans. And there's no talent to get slapped. Chasing that fame. Chasing that fame to the end of time. Boy, I can't get it. I cannot understand it. Well, or it's a business decision. You say, okay, I'll do a slap fighting. That'll be X number of subscribers to my OnlyFans. As long as you stay in people's faces. Unless she makes a deal where I get slapped first.

Can you do that? Can you say, I'll fight you, but I get to slap first? I think you gotta, like, I don't know how they do it. They flip the... You rig that. Fuck that quarter. Yeah. Denizel. Rig that quarter. I can't believe it's this popular. She gets slapped first and gets KO'd with one slap by some bull dyke. Have you seen the girl she's fighting? No. I mean, you nailed it. Is that it? You don't see a lot of hot girls doing slap fighting. Let me see who she's fighting. Who's Paige Van Zandt fighting, Jamie? Who?

What are we doing here? I just it's free brain damage like why you could hit someone so hard with a slap because you're not Everybody thinks of a slap as like the palm in the face. That is not what's happening You're getting palm striked in the face. Yeah full blast terrible from from a full swing like this You know what the problem is I because I think part of the hatred of slap fight and I used to be so hard on it now I'm like whatever do you Dana?

The problem is they combined it and started posting, promoting it on the UFC channel. And then that's when you pissed me off. I'm like, no, no, don't confuse the public here. Separate them. Well, they got Bisping doing commentary for it.

I would do it. When I start out, Biz Bean's doing it. I'm like, yeah, get your money, dog. If the UFC is cocaine, slap fighting is crack. Crack, yeah. It's the dirty. Not even. Not even. Because UFC is complicated. Who's the gal? She's fighting. So pretty. No, if UFC is like Flaming Young. She's practicing on a fucking rubber doll. Slap.

Slap fighting is a hot dog. Oh, yeah, the girl she's fighting has been through a lot of truck stops. Oh, man. Look at the girl she's fighting. She's a handsome woman. Look at that girl. That girl does not give a fuck if you give her a scar. Oh, my God. That's a big, strong lady. She didn't slap the fuck out of you. Oh, she's got a good slap, too. Oh, my goodness. She's got an iron face. She looks like a lady with a turtleneck.

Turn on the oven. Been through some shit. Yeah. At Auschwitz. Grab a hot pan. Yeah. You know what I mean? No mitt, no oven mitt. A long winter. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, survives eating dogs in the woods. She's like, me and the kids. Why is she eating dogs in the woods? I don't know. Isn't it weird how they put powder on their hands to make the slap more crazy? But to be fair, it's Crush on social media. You know what? They probably got that from Cat Williams.

Remember when he played the pimp? Yep. Pada me up. Pada me up. Slap fighting's been around forever, dude. Russia was like, what the fuck? We've been doing this for 100 years. So this is the girl she's fighting? I saw they just approved the car jujitsu in New York or something. That's wild. That's some industrial bitch. Why would you do this, man? She's getting down low, dude. The girl she's slapping? Oh, this is the worst. Not bad. Her eyes all cocked.

She's got them lip implants, too. No, no, thank you. This is awful. She's probably worried her lip implant's going to get blown out. Are you allowed to go with it? No, you can't go with it. Oh, she got KO'd. Oh, bro. This is the girl she was fighting? In those A6 like that? And that girl got KO'd. Look at her legs twisted up. That's a wrap. That's really bad for you. Knock out. They don't have something for you to fall back on? Someone catches you. No, they do. Forrest Griffin. Yeah, he's a good guy.

Yeah, he got you. That's a major brain injury. Look at that. Real legit. And then you got like Mark Smith, legit MMA referee who's refereeing it. It's like the crossover is very bizarre. That's my problem, the crossover. If they would have just done it completely independent, do you, man. But when you start mixing the lines. How did this get sanctioned? Well, why did they let her fall? I don't know.

Watch this KO. First of all, you don't close your eyes. Bad move. Why? Because you want to see it coming. You want to tighten up. So your body prepares. You want to prepare for it. She did not see it coming, and it probably led to her getting KO'd. Look at this swing. Boom!

Once your head dips down like that, ha, two, spit on that thing. Spit on that thing. I hate it. I hate it. Spit on that thing. I think it's the worst part of our culture right there. That's just the shittiest part of our culture. But if people are making money and that's their only option, do your thing, man. Fuck all of it. Making money. That's what we worship. What do you worship, Brian? I'm glad you asked. Art. I'm an artist. Jesus Christ. Deep art. Here we go. I opened the door. Jesus Christ. Pull out your pens.

So these guys train together. They're buddies. I wish it that which you can't measure. From Mother Russia. Boy, they look exactly the same, like two brothers. Yeah, similar. One's tall, one's thick. Yeah, one drank more milk.

Pavlich just a straight knockout. Eighth more beef. Just fucking giant. Volkov's so big. Oh, he was really good before he got to the UFC. Yeah, Volkov. Yeah, Volkov was really fucking good. Is that a picture at your house? Is that Kanye's girl? Volkov's one of those guys I never understand why he doesn't use a jab more. Why does he jab the shit out of people? It's a spoof on that. That's dope. Yeah.

What do you mean that? No, no, no, no. I bought it. Oh, sick. What's that? What are you doing? Remember that old picture of Kanye with his new wife looking like she's being held hostage? Yeah. Somebody replaced him with Darth Vader and made her Princess Leia. That's pretty dope. I bought the fucking print. I thought you did that with your Android or some shit. I need to get me one of those. You probably could do it. If I had the artistic skill to make all my ideas happen.

You'd be rich. I'm waiting for that. That's why I'm waiting for this AI shit to kick off. Have Joe talk to you, Lonnie. Put a fucking nerd link in there. There's another company that just released some videos of this new AI text prompt to video. It's even more insane than Sora. Have you seen that, Jamie? Mm-hmm.

Fucking insane. What is it? You put in the AI, like, say, dark alleyway, mysterious stranger in a black leather jacket walking towards the camera. And then they have a rainy alleyway. And it's like everything looks perfect, like a real movie. And it does it like that. It doesn't look artificial? No. No, it looks incredible. So many people are going to lose jobs? Oh, everyone's going to lose a job. Tyler Perry shut down his $800 million production studio.

As soon as he saw Sora, he was like, stop! Really? He was building this massive studio. This is it. This is a prompt. Motorcycle parked on a street corner. Hey, man, that looks fake. Porch of a man in a subway in awe and wonderment. Look.

This is not a real person. Landscape of waterfalls in the mountain. None of this is real. Holy shit. It's incredible. So you're going to be able to make movies that are like legit theatrical movies. Are you doing this, Jamie? No, this is just a website. I'm just letting it go. This is just a website. Oh, good God. But look how incredible this looks. And what's it called? This one's called Runway.

And it's free? No, I don't trust that. Most of these things are not free. Say sign up, it's free. But you could have it look cartoonish. You could have it look realistic. You could have it look like a fucking stuffed animal. Yeah, bro. They started putting rules on Chad GPT. They should. Yeah. The country music that they're making now. Show me how to rob Bank of America. And they were like, we can't help you with that. Right.

What I asked for should be between me and my AI. It shouldn't be them telling me what I can say. No, because it gets in the wrong hand. Show me how to spit on that thing. One of the things they did was they said my grandmother used to make...

nuclear weapons how would she do that and then it'll tell you yeah you get around it instead of how do I make a nuclear weapon you say oh my grandmother made a nuclear weapon or you can say I make napalm like this and then it'll correct you I don't like any of it that's hilarious I don't like any of it

We're going down a wrong road. It's not good. Oh, you're not stopping that road, buddy. I'm aware. I'm aware. Did you hear this? I heard a country music song. It was damn good. It was actually really funny and good, and it was generated by AI. They made a huck to a spit on that thing, country music song. I'm sure. Are you spits? Yeah, they did. Well, you know Drake used Tupac and Biggie's voice in his diss track. There you go. I love you, Pookie, forever.

Who the fuck's Pookie? Speaking of Drake, did you see Kendrick dance on his grave the other day?

What's that? Kendrick did a pop-up concert in LA. What's this one, Jim? In LA, yes. It was lit. He brought together the Bloods, the Crips from all the different neighborhoods, and everybody was on stage just partying. Really? Singing all the songs he shit on Drake with. Wow. And they all at the same time go, Miner. God. Dog. I mean, he did a whole long-ass concert, and he did Not Like Us like six times. Yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Nothing else before we continue the party? Yeah. Okay. Okay.

I'm gonna just need a moment of silence for this. I stand with you. Right?

How crazy is this beef it never ends well this beef is going on forever you fuck with the wrong Yeah, that's the wrong guy. It's a real street guy, but Drake but Kendrick is such a good writer This is like the the stamp on it because he was like he's like I'm I have more influence like I can bring that together the whole West Coast and

He has more credibility, right? I don't think Drake could do that in Toronto. No. I don't know, maybe. What's the beep originate from? What's the deal? Oh, where do we start? There's a lot of things. Like, Drake has done a lot of weird things, but the main thing was Kendrick did the control verse. He was on a song with Big Sean. Right. With a whole bunch of other rappers, and then he shit on. He basically challenged every rapper, but in a friendly way, like all his friends. And every rapper took it on the chin, like, yeah, this is hip-hop, it's competition. And then Drake did an interview where he was like,

You know, I thought he was my friend. Like, why would he say that? Like, he took it all sensitive. Wow. Yeah, and then Lamar was on the BET Awards cipher, and he said something to him again. He was...

Something about tucking a sensitive rapper back in his pajamas or something like that. And then ever since then, they've been kind of like subtly little shots back and forth. And then it got serious. Yeah, and then Kendrick left his label. I think the label was holding him back from going all out. Because people kept wondering, like, Kendrick, respond, respond. It was like taking forever.

Yeah. And so then Drake did a song called First Person Shooter with J. Cole that they wanted Kendrick on and Kendrick didn't want to be on it. And so, you know, and they were calling themselves the big three, but Kendrick wasn't on it. So then he dropped another song that was like, there's no big three. It's just big me. Here we go. Heavyweights. It was awesome.

Well, I guess Justin Timberlake wasn't selling well in his concert. Do you hear this? You think that's why he got arrested for drink driving? I don't know. Is that a conspiracy? You're a conspiracy theorist. You believe that Tyson Fury carried Francis Ngata? I do. I actually do believe that. You're a ridiculous person. No, I think he got paid for it, too. Volkov has to stay on his toes. Circle and don't get to the cage. Pavlovich is such a tank.

Look at the way that guy's built. He's such a house. How are they the same size? How are they the same weight? Well, Volkov's real tall. Volkov's at least 6'7". They have him at least 6'7", probably 6'8". I used to train with him at Black House. Never understand why he doesn't use his jab more with those long arms. He's got a great front kick. Yes. He does a great front kick to the middle. And having one of those with a tall guy, it's such an advantage. And I want to take credit for his new samurai tattoo because he did have the Moana stingray. And I...

would roast him every fight and then all of a sudden he has this dope ass samurai tattoo yeah the samurai's way better that Moana was tough but it's wild for your whole back to be your first tattoo well he had a back tattoo that was not as big and he had to fill it in it was a straight up Moana it was a Monterey it was just so scary yeah it was a Manta Ray right yeah Manta Ray or Monterey Manta Manta Ray

You look pretty bitch in Russia. Pavlovich is such a fucking scary striker, man. How about Tom Aspinall? Short notice knocks his ass out. I think he's the best heavyweight in the world. This is your first tattoo. What do you want to start with? The Yakuza. Okay, you think Tom Aspinall beats Francis Ngannou? Absolutely. I do. Boy. Word? Yeah. Boy.

You guys are alone on that one. Especially now. Especially now. All he's doing is focus on boxing? Yeah, now it's a different scene. See, I say I think Francis will come back better. But he's also 37, 38. Yeah. Correct. And he's never really lost that way.

That way is a bad way to lose, man. To get flatlined, like out cold, laid out, legs stretched, not moving for minutes. You're never going to see Francis in MMA again. PFL ain't happening. No, no, no. That's all high, great stock value. You think so? Did they give him a big-ass bag, though? Sure. By the way, that guy who might fight, that Brazilian dude, is fucking good, man. He's dangerous. You've never seen that fight. Who's that cat? What's that dude's name again? Caesar something, right? Is it? Monster. But don't you think if...

Based on what he stands for, if Francis doesn't fight again, won't that make Dana's argument even stronger? I don't think Francis gives a fuck. He's just making money, man. He has so much money, and then to go back to the PFL and fight this Brazilian monster nobody knows, there's just no upside for him. They don't have anybody. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, he's set for the rest of his life if he doesn't do anything crazy with his money. And then he'll always have things that he can do to generate money, seminars, meet and greets, all that kind of shit. He'll always have extra money coming in. The guy was a UFC heavyweight champion, knocked down Tyson Fury in his first boxing fight ever. I mean, he's a legend forever. He's still going to box. We forget something. He has a boxing fight coming up. But we forget. He's going back to boxing. I bet he fights Deontay Wilder. If he can get it. You know, he lost his son.

Wait a minute. You think Deontay Wilder's going to fight again? No. Yes. When that big Chinese dude knocked him out. That Chinese dude was 40 years old, too. Fucking massive. He's a big, big fella. He wants to fight Joshua. Joshua fought him in the Olympics. Interesting. And beat him, of course. Joshua won. Joshua's really a killer.

But I think, and Ghana lost his son. I don't even know where his head's at. I can't imagine. I can't imagine. He's got to be dealing with the deepest grief. No, I can't. Yeah, I can't. How did the son die? I don't know. But it's such a, it was so terrible. Like, I think he was, how old was his son? Very young. Three or four. I think three. Was it three? Yeah. Horrible. Oh, God. Horrible. If you have kids, it's like unthinkable. Jesus Christ. I feel so bad for him, man. So.

He's going to box again, though. 15 months. 15 months. That's way off. Just terrible. God damn, that's horrible. Pavlovich's nose is already busted up. Say what you want about Volkov. He's never really had a boring fight, either. No, Volkov has good fights. Dude, he was beating Derek Lewis, and then with fucking a minute left, Derek knocked him out. That was the My Balls Are Hot. That's right. That was that one. That one was amazing. Volkov has won, I think, four in a row?

This might be, if he wins this four in a row, this might be five in a row. What is it, Jamie? Where's Volkov training these days? Russia. Is he? I think so. He was at Alliance. And then I would train with him down there. And then at Black House. Does it say where Volkov's training, Jamie? Strella team? Strella. Hmm.

Because, like, where does a guy like that find people to train with? A guy who's that big. I mean, it's got a... Russia. Limited amount of people that size, you know? Russia's got some big boys. It's going to be tough to find wrestlers, though. So this would be his fourth in a row. At heavyweight, you're right there. Especially if you beat Pavlovich, one more, and then it's slim pickings. And then if John and Stipe fight, neither one will ever fight soon. Where's Cyril gone, Ben?

Shooting a movie. Oh, yeah? What movie? Bad Boys 5. Oh, really? I made that up. I don't know. There's a UFC France coming up, too, in September. It's a fight night, though. Because they offered Cyril Gunn the fight against Tom Aslanol in England, and he turned it down and said he was on a movie set. Damn. That'd be a good fight. Interesting. That would be a great fight. I disagree. Really? I think Tom mops the floor. Wrestling-wise, you mean? He takes him down? Yeah. John Lurie was like, come here. Fucking...

Yeah. 18 seconds. I was just thinking striking wise, you know. Take him right down so fucking fast. What do you think Jones Aspinall? That's the fight. That's the fight. Everybody wants to fucking see. God. I want to see it so bad. John was shitting all over Aspinall. I think that's a bad way to go. He was lucky that he blew his knee out with Curtis Blades because Curtis was teeing off on him. Doing well.

Curtis was. He was. See, I still think John wins easily. Ooh, not easily. No? No. See, I think the angle of, oh, Tom's not that good. I've fought newcomers before. No, build him up, bro. Build him up. Be like, yeah, maybe this is the guy that's going to beat me. And then when you come back, come out of retirement after you beat Stipe, that fight's massive. Yeah, but he has to talk shit like that just for strategy. But that's the thing. I don't think anybody's excited to see him fight Stipe.

Correct. I mean, I'm excited to see John fight anybody, but the Stipe fight was just like, I don't know who's asking for it. And I love Stipe. He's one of the greatest of all time, but...

it's a weird thing aspinall's an athlete man he's such a good freak out very fast very fast for heavyweight so fast yeah we've we've fought the same way about zero gone though yeah yeah but siri doesn't have wrestling doesn't have jiu jitsu aspinall's like legit on the ground very legit on the ground so legit his dad owned a jiu jitsu gym his dad's a black belt he started doing jiu jitsu at two

And he, and you know, remember, uh, Aspinall was, came out of Tyson Fury's camp too. Like we trained for them, but you know, that quick video of John rolling with, um, rolling with, um, Gordon, Gordon. Yeah. And it was like, they weren't neck and neck, but it was still like, that's Gordon being cool.

You have to understand how Gordon trains. Gordon with time and knots, yeah. When Gordon trains, Gordon rolls with you technically. Like, Gordon does not explode. There's no explosion. Everything is like smooth movements. Everything is just technique, smooth movements, scrambles. There's no explosion. It's never overextended. Gordon is just pure technique.

Yeah, no, if there's money on the line, he said, Gordon, we'll give you $100,000. We can tap John out in 30 seconds. Gordon would grab ahold of his leg. He would get his leg so quick. Unless John avoided him, unless John used his wrestling to avoid exchanges.

You know what that's all about. Correct. It's called the Schaub shutdown. The Schaub shutdown. They sell seven-part series on it. They did with Cyborg. Yes. Seven-part series. If he just decides to shut it down, then he doesn't come close to him. But they're, like, engaging? Yeah. Gordon, snap his fucking leg off. Yeah, Gordon grabs ahold of a leg, and that's a wrap. So you think Esmonell's...

Jiu-Jitsu is at that level. No, no. Not at Gordon's level. Nobody is. But as far as heavyweight MMA, yeah, Tom's right up there. He's by far the best in the division. Volkov is teeing off on Sergey. He's hitting him with some serious low kicks, man. Technician, he has to just stay on the bike. Remember he did this to Derrick Lewis, and then the minute you get tired, these big boys keep hitting. But he's also fucking his nose up, man.

His feints are great. His movement's great. And that distance is something to fuck with. That distance is a lot. The gap. He's just so tall. Bro, you remember Stefan Struve? Oh, yeah, man. 7'2". Oh, yeah, man. So big. Yeah. But why Pavlovich? I mean, Volkov never uses a jab. He's got those long arms. He's using that tonight, bro. You got to watch the fucking fight. I haven't seen much. He uses those front kicks, but he could piston that.

Yeah, he's fucking up Pavlovich's legs, man. He's kicked his legs multiple times. I thought Eddie was going to be here. I was ready for some conspiracy theories. No, that's why you're here. Once the liquor starts flowing. I'm telling you, the earth is a rhombus, bro. The problem is that he's right on about 90% of stuff, at least. You know what people forgot about? Sammy Schilt.

Oh, fuck yeah. Giant kickboxer. Great footwork. Seven foot tall. And great footwork. Nasty front kick to the body. Oh, that is. Semmy Schell was a world champion kickboxer. Elite of the elite. Elite, elite. Super tall guy.

If he decided to play basketball, he would have been professional in that. Remember one of the nastiest finishes ever when Sergey Karatov got on top of him and punched him in the one eye? Yeah. His one eye was fucked up and he kept hammer fisting. He got him in a crucifix and just mounted him, like high mount, and just hammered his bloody eye where he was screaming. You know in Game of Thrones?

You know in Game of Thrones when the fucking mountain just does that? It's kind of like that. Can't you just say tap? He wasn't going to. No, we don't fuck that noise. Especially in Pride. You do that shit in Pride, they won't have your back. No. If you tap? Pride was the most ruthless organization, dude. Stomps, soccer kicks, everything was legal. I did a post for... But no elbows on the ground. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, boys, boys, we're not savages here. Yeah.

You can kick him in the head. That is so weird, those random rules. That was the weirdest random rule. No elbows on the ground. I posted the best highlights of Pride, and I said, it's Pride month for June. Yeah, a lot of those are going around the internet.

That was awesome. Yeah, look at Pavlich's nose. It's leaking, man. I mean, he just keeps getting popped. Pride was the best time ever. Golden years. Oh, my God. It's still around, right? No. UFC bought it. Folded it. And brought a bunch of the guys over here and then tested them. They all shrunk. Everybody shriveled. Except for Overeem. It was a good time. It was a good time. It was the best of times. When they brought him over here, like, what are we doing? Let him fight. Yeah.

Rampage is a good one to have on. Talk about pride. Yeah, Rampage is coming on soon. He's the best. That's my boy. If you're over 35, you should be able to juice. 100%. I think so. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Why not? We got to be careful with the young guys. We can't have another TRT.

Belfort era. Why? You don't like awesome shit? Yeah, we need to have that. I do, but that dude was... Yeah, exciting. I got pissed. We'll be right back. Isn't there a new rule where you can do TRT now? Absolutely not. No? No. You're so uninformed. I thought that... Oh, yeah. That I'm telling you. Shut the fuck up. I'm telling you. No, they don't allow TRT. Wasn't there talk about it?

Like you can get sanctioned for it under some circumstances. What the fuck is that? Certain commissions. What? Is that a regular clock? Yeah. Is that what time it is? Four o'clock. Yeah, four o'clock. We started at what, two? That's fucking cool. Shit, this is the co-main event. Yeah, that clock's cool. Very steampunk-ish. Brian, I should explain that Young Thug stuff. He just took his headphones off. I don't want to be insane. I'll tell you. Give us the Young Thug stuff. Oh, man, I'm obsessed.

Tell us about that Young Thug stuff. Are you not following this? Yeah. You have a great breakdown on it. It's incredible. Oh, should we wait for Joe to come back and talk Young Thug? Well, maybe after the fight. It's interesting because his... Yeah. The lawyer fucking the... I think that the trial's going to be over pretty soon because the judges don't get...

The Supreme Court of Judges won't step in. I know nothing about it. Brian's 60 years old. See, the thing is, I don't know shit about the actual Young Thug's case. Oh, okay. The interesting shit is what's going on with the... It's all the drama. Yeah, so that district attorney... With the lawyer, the district attorney, sex. Who is Young Thug? I don't even know that. Oh, wow. Young Thug's a rapper. Okay. Talk that shit, Brian. And he's on trial with...

a RICO trial. So his whole organization is on trial. For racketeering? For racketeering, yeah. But that district attorney is the same lady that tried to try Trump, but she's like corrupt. Fannie Willis. She slept with... She was dating that prosecutor. She gave the dude she was fucking the no-bid contract. And the lawyer that was trying to take her down is Brian Steele's lawyer. Brian Steele is Young Thug's lawyer. So they come into court one day, everyone's three hours late except him. He's like, what the fuck is going on?

And then he finds out that the judge had a, what they call an ex parte, just means like a meeting without him. Right. An ex parte meeting with the prosecutor, the district attorney, who's the prosecutor, and the star witness. So the star witness was supposed, he got immunity to testify, but the key witness to the whole case. He gets on the stand and pleads the fifth.

So they take him in the judge's chambers and them, the sheriff, the prosecutor, and the judge pressure this guy in a testifying because he basically tells him... Which is illegal. The judge tells him, yeah, the judge tells him like, I can hold you not till just the end of this trial, till all the trials are over. So you could be in jail for seven, eight years without being charged with a crime. And so then the dude was like, okay, I'll testify. Problem is...

That dude's lawyer went on vacation. He told them ahead of time he was going on vacation. He couldn't cancel the tickets a year ago. And he leaves this girl behind to take his place. The witness fires that girl before they go into the meeting, but they force her to sit in the meeting so he could say he had representation.

Right. So then, boom. So young attorney found out about it. He's like, he's like, hey, judge, it's highly unusual and illegal for you to have a meeting with a sworn in witness and the prostitute prosecution. And the judge goes, how'd you find out about that? And so it turns into this. It turns into this whole drama of like he's like, yo, if you don't tell me how you found out, I'm gonna hold you in contempt. So he so he holds him in contempt. And then.

His attorney shows up and it's the same bitch that was trying to take down the prosecutor from the Trump thing. And she's like, I got 25 other lawyers with me. We filing all these motions for this and motions for that. They get him out. They get him out of jail the next day. So he's in jail with his client. He's in jail with Young Thug.

They get him out of jail the next day. The Supreme Court of Georgia was like, no, he's not in contempt until we have a hearing. And then this hearing, like now all this other information is coming out. Because even if, let's just say the meeting was legal, they're supposed to have a transcript. They're supposed to tell them what happened. And so it was shit called Brady evidence, which means...

if the prosecutor finds out something that could exonerate your client, they have to tell you. Right. Right? And in that meeting with the judge, the key witness told him, he was like, I killed the guy. And if I go on the stand and say anything other than that, I'm going to be perjuring myself. And the prosecutor was like, well, I'm not going to charge you with perjury if you perjure yourself.

So basically, like, go lie. Damn. But now it's illegal because I just found out something that could make Young Thug innocent. I have to share it. So not only did they not tell the lawyer about the meeting, not only did they not. So the Young Thug was being originally charged with murder? He's been in charge of murder, racketeering, all this for running a criminal organization. Yeah. But this murder was the key murder. Yeah. And so. Wow. Damn. It's a great fight.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm sitting there talking through it. No, you're good. Pavlovich's face looks like a tomato, like a bump of tomato. Yeah, but he's coming on strong. Like, he's applying the pressure. That's why he's getting lit up. That is. Uh-oh.

Brian was just breaking down the young thug situation. Oh, yeah. Isn't that crazy? Wow. He broke it down the other day in the green room. He's a lawyer. And then I started watching videos on it. Brian's a lawyer now. It's crazy. Dude, I get obsessed. Law shit's the only thing that gets me through, like, depression. Really? Man, I just lock in. Law and order. Yeah. You think you could have been a lawyer? Oh, yeah. That's what I wanted to be. Really? Yeah, I wanted to be a lawyer.

But then I met a few and I was like, nah. They're not fun. They're just a different ethic. I guess being a trial lawyer would be interesting, right? You got to get there, though. No, no, no. The truth is real lawyering isn't that exciting like they make it look on TV. It's details. It's boring. I know a couple trial lawyers. Pretty wild.

When you see a dude's head not moving so good, like bobbing around as they throw punches and moving. That's a bad sign. That's fatigue. Volkov won that fight. Yeah, Volkov won. Because you see Pavlov. Pavlov didn't put a hand on him, I don't think. I just sent Jamie the AI Hawk Tua song. Play it. Oh, this is the Connor one. But yeah, play it. Listen, the AI did a song. Stars shining bright.

This is AI.

That's wild. Is music so important in the A.I. that the A.I. can make a good song? Yeah. It's so crazy. Especially country songs. All you need is a river, a pickup truck, you know, some cold beers. This is Connor. I agree with Connor here. Like, Connor's talking about why he pulled out of the fight. He was talking to...

In a way, you know, I had a little lapse of concentration and, you know, I had to reschedule the bell, so I'm a little upset about that. But, you know, it's keeping me dialed in. It's keeping me focused. You know, I can't rock around like I'm at the showing up, like I'm at the only job. The job is not done. So, you know, that's not bad for me, for someone like me, you know. So I'm onwards towards the new date.

and you know take my lessons learned it was an elapsing concentration if I was any one of these other little bums that can't move that have no footwork that don't rely on their skills you know then I would be okay and I've done it before I've made the walk-on a multitude of times under those circumstances and given these bums an advantage over me that they don't even deserve so now I'm dialing it in I'm getting this training camps correct I'm walking in there 100% Conor McGregor injury free perfection is on the menu with me and let's see it

So I don't know if you go to it. And that is a dangerous man. Great to see you in there, Conor. Dan Hardy. I hope. Yeah, Dan Hardy's great. He's the best. I was bummed out when they fired him. So stupid. Why did they fire him? He's great. I don't know, man. He said something to Herb Dean. Yeah, it was a little more than that. And he said something to a worker, right? Yeah, yeah.

I don't know. I don't know what happened. You know, look, he's a fighter. He felt like the fight was stopped too late. And, you know, it's dangerous when that kind of shit happens. For him or for him. Like he was winning and they stopped it too late. No, he was a commentator. He was a commentator. And he got upset at Herb, who's the best referee alive. Yeah.

Or one of them. But there was that that started, and then there was something with someone, the UFC employee, too. Yeah, I don't know what happened. I don't know what's going on there. I don't know what happened, but I miss him. I used to train with him at Tent Planet. He's the best. He's a good dude. One of the best minds in the game. Great mind. I went on Connor to apologize for that shitty movie he made. I liked it. It was entertaining, dog. You didn't like it? No. You liked Roadhouse?

I like how cliche it was. I didn't expect it to be fucking, you know. Yeah, but it was kind of like a comedy, right? I mean, that's sort of tongue-in-cheek. It was so ridiculous. I don't know. It's just an action movie. You know what? I didn't see it, but listen. They filmed it at the UFC. Oh, really? Yeah, they filmed scenes at the UFC. Oh, yeah, so I'm walking out. It was so stupid. I'm not involved in this. It was so stupid, but it was good. I got out.

They wanted me to interview him. I'm not a fan of so bad it's good. Yeah. No. I'm a fan of how many people, I think the opening week was like 50 million. I'm a fan of when a fighter ventures out into something they do well. Yeah, I'm a fan of that. And I don't get why people hate on it. Look, Conor McGregor can do anything. Whenever a fighter does anything, like Dustin Poirier's hot sauce, best hot sauce I've ever had. It's very good. I didn't hate on it when I heard about it. I hated on it after I watched it. That's fair. It wasn't good.

Both guys are heavyweights. And he wasn't. Look at that. That's a former heavyweight champion. Look at that. Volkov standing next to a former heavyweight champion. So crazy. That's how good DC was. Yeah. That's how good DC was. DC should have been 185 pounder. Correct. Maybe even 180. No. Just kidding. 180 though. 185. Oh, I hate it when people do that. What? He shook his hand as he was walking away. Like he did this. Oh, yeah. Disrespectful. Why do you hate that? I don't know.

I don't know. A little effort into it. It makes me feel in some kind of way. No, they just... I know they're in a hurry. They're happy. And they got somebody in their ear. Here we go. Robert the Reaper. Bobby Knuckles in the fucking house. Dude, can you imagine if there's Bo Nickel getting ready right now? Oh, man, I would love it. And Hamzat, if it was Hamzat right now. Hey, bro, these new gloves, they ain't no better than the old gloves.

No, the only cool thing about them is the colors. So what did they do? What did they change? They made a better glove. It is better, I should say. It's better padding. The best gloves, the best gloves are clearly not made yet. They need to cover the fingers.

They need to cover the fingers. There's no reason for the... You don't ever do this. Ever. The fingers never come into play. There's not a time where your fingers... You always do this or this. Whether it's grappling or striking. All you have to do is have...

patting on the knuckles and a protective layer, a thin leather layer that covers the hands that the fingers slip into. But what about wrist control? Then you cut out... Like grabbing the hands and stuff. It's the same. It's exactly the same. The only thing different... The only thing different is you now...

you can get jab with the thumbs. So only thumb pokes will still exist and we'll have less pokes because a lot of our eyes, it eliminates probably 90% of all eye pokes and it doesn't change anything with grappling, anything with striking. You have it like an Everlast bag glove.

But no padding. And so with a finger area, completely unpadded and just a thin leather cover that covers over that and goes to the fingers right here. Can you ride wrists and stuff? Not only that, you'd be able to do it better because leather, especially if it's raw leather, if it's not shiny, if it's raw leather, isn't that dope?

That's cool. Shane against the machine. He made that with thimbles. Shane against the machine. Yeah, he did. We have another one of his pieces. I have one at home, another skull that he made for me. And then another one we have, which is a World War II helmet with a bayonet in it. That's cool. It's a lamp, but it's in our storage. But I love that one.

But yeah, man, cover the fucking fingers. There's no reason to have these fingers open like this. This is so unnecessary. If you just had a covering over the fingertips that's a thin piece of leather, you would eliminate all those fingers going in the eyeballs. So your fingers would go into a glove. You'd still get poked a little bit, but it wouldn't be that bad.

Yeah, that's not as bad. It's not going to stop a fight. So you would have it like webbed, like bad gloves, those old black gloves. Exactly. Like I said, yeah, just cover it with one thin piece of leather, and it would make gripping better. What is the argument against? No argument against it. Again, nobody listens to me. There's no argument. Nobody listens to me. That's because you told them to do it on an open field so they'd shut you out. I told them to do it on a football field. Yeah, which is insane. Have those guys in the middle of the football field. I'm not stupid. I know what I'm doing. I'm right. I'm right.

I'm right. Nobody wants to listen. I have a bunch of rules that I would implement if I was the king. Here's number one. No stand-ups ever. No stand-ups. I don't give a fuck. Get up. Figure out how to get up. Also, if a guy takes you down at the end of the first round, the second round starts with you in that exact same position. 100%. You can never get up unless you get up. Because it's not one... Yep, I hate views. I hate ratings. It's not... It's not five fights.

It's not five five-minute fights. It's one fight. So if a guy takes you down, that's where you are at the beginning of the next round. You get the one-minute break, though. You just start in that. I also like the idea that the judges only see the last round. I think there should be six judges, not three. Six judges. And then I also think that you should have...

For sure, you have no weight cutting. Weight cutting should be completely eliminated. For sure. That should be the first one. Before they implement any of these rule changes, cut all this legalized cheating shit. Kamaru Usman is not 170 pounds. He's never been 170 pounds for more than five minutes. Five seconds, yeah. He loses the weight and then immediately rehydrates. You stand next to him, the guy's massive. Balloons up, yeah. He's so big. Why even number of judges?

We need more judges. Three's not enough. And I don't think they should be ringside. I think it should be a remote location where they're not influenced by the crowd. I think they should be able to watch the fight and hear the commentators. Maybe not the commentators. I don't think it should be next to the ring. I think they should have a separate. I don't think next to the ring is bad because then you get to hear what's going on. Like maybe something's happening. Let them listen to the commentators. Or maybe have one next to the ring.

I don't know. But that's debatable. But more judges. More judges. More judges. So that if you have one cockeyed asshole who fucks everything up. You can't affect it. Because there's so many cockeyed fighter decisions. The way you look at it, you go, how the fuck? You know how many times me and DC have looked at each other and go, what the fuck was that one card? You're like, is Michael Bisping judging? He's got one good eye. He would get it right. It's like you see a guy get...

three, four fights wrong in a night and you hear his name again, you go, what the fuck, man? Yeah, that's wild. But that guy would, first of all, they should be cut out. As soon as they have one of those,

Get rid of them. Throw them away. At least suspend it. Yeah. Get rid of them. If you ever do that, you don't know what you're doing. You shouldn't be doing it. But back to the eye pokes, I think, sure, change the gloves. Hopefully that happens. But if not, I think an eye poke or a serious groin strike is an automatic point. One point. It would stop it. Because John's going to be like, I can't lose a fucking point. So you're not going to see him be reaching out like this. Exactly.

Exactly. Because now it's just a warning. One point nut shot. Sometimes they get three warnings. One point eye poke, one point nut shot automatically. Fence grab. One point. Yes, sir. Grab a fence, stop a takedown, one point automatic. That's easy to do tomorrow. Tomorrow. I don't get it. So cut that out. Cut weight cutting out. You fix 90% of the problems at this point. Doesn't the Nevada Weather Commission have to agree to the rules?

Yeah, everybody has to agree to the rules, but the rules are good. The rules make sense. If I could argue this in front of these people, I really think I could make a good point. But those people, aren't they the same people that, like, haven't there been a few fights that should have been overturned and they never did? Yeah, they never overturned fights. I don't think you can convince those people with logic.

Well, a lot of them aren't fighters, right? A lot of the people that make those decisions are not actual fighters. They don't have as much experience. None of them are fighters. None of them. A lot of the judges have not even stepped on the mat. There you go. They've never even taken a jiu-jitsu class. It's a huge problem. They've never even stepped on a treadmill. And if you don't know jiu-jitsu, if you don't know how close something is, you don't know. You really don't know. Sometimes a triangle looks good, but it's bullshit. It's sloppy. Yeah, there's no chance. And if someone just sees...

like an instep over an ankle. Like, oh my god, he's got the triangle. He doesn't have a fucking triangle. There's so many times where something looks good, but if you have a skilled eye, you don't know what the fuck is going on. That's so surprising. That's the main event. Al Scarif, I'm going to grab my arm. This guy's a beast, man. You guys have a very difficult journey around there, Brian. You might have to duck. You've got to crawl. This is a motherfucker, man. Al Scarif's very good, man. You're supposed to fight two weeks from now at the Apex. Who is he going to fight? There's a three-round fight. You buy one of them?

No, no, no. Okay, thanks. It was a three-round fight. So now your main event on a—this is ABC, Doug. And your main event against Robert Whittaker. Right. That's five rounds. And Robert Whittaker's fired up. One thing about Robert, when he loses a fight, he comes back fucking guns blazing every time. Lost the Izzy fight, came back in the rematch, almost won. Very close fight in the second fight. Same.

Robert Whitaker's a bad man. And now he's coming off that Polo Costa win. He looked great. God, I want to see him in Hamzat, though. I wanted Hamzat in him so bad. Me too. That is the fight. That is the fight, man. Real test for Hamzat, man. Yes. Bobby, we know what Whitaker does.

Hamzat needs it more than Whitaker. That's what I'm saying. You'd see. You'd be like, if Hamzat beat him that way, he'd be like, okay. But here's what's interesting. If Whitaker wins this fight, you're not going to give him a title shot off this. Yeah, you would. Yeah, I would. For helping him out? Yeah, I would. That also is just... The Darius fight? He's so good, man. He's so good. But you got Strickland right there. Yeah. What about him and Strickland? Him and Strickland would be...

be wild. Bro, Strickland shuts down everybody. The way he shut down Paulo Costa, his fucking style is so unique. I don't get the complaint with that. They're like, oh, Strickland's a boring fighter. I'm like, have you never watched him fight? I don't find it boring. He's a far the same from boring. He's a tidal wave. His defense is so elite. I don't get it. Constantly moving forward. It's just casuals. I think Strickland's one of the most exciting fighters in the sport. I love watching him fight. I couldn't believe that at one point Costa didn't at least just

Double leg or just grab him around He can't take that dude down He's been getting pieced up for fucking three rounds The problem is Strickland's just different You don't know anybody like him Correct We've gone over this Polo Kostas' number one thing is cardio There's nothing more exhausting than shooting shots And you're not going to do it against Strickland At that level And it's not in his background It doesn't matter

And Paulo afterwards said, you know what? I got to stop trying to play the point game. Yes. I just got to try to take it off. That's when he's best. Not worry about my card. That's what he did against you over a marathon. He was in his quill. Use your strength. Izzy mind-fucked him, man. Especially when he humped him after he knocked him out. When he humped him. So disrespectful. So disrespectful. He's never been the same. So disrespectful.

Izzy in his prime, man. Oh, bro. And just pieced him up standing up, man. Dude, I think Izzy coming back and everyone's doubting him, all these haters against Drikus. Dude, that's a dangerous fucking Izzy, man. It's dangerous, for sure. And Drikus is fucking dangerous, too. Hell yeah. Drikus is the... I think he's the biggest guy at 85 other than Pejeta when Pejeta was here. He's so big. When I stand next to him, I'm always like, how? How?

How are you winning? He's a heavyweight. He's so big, man. He's like 6'2". He's wide as a fucking house. How do they do it? I don't know, man. I don't know how Pella Costa sucks down to 85. You gotta talk to Dan Garner and some of these guys that have it down to a science. They have a real science to it now. Yeah, I mean, they get it down to your body.

Your body weight, your calories, how much water you're taking in, how much sodium. I'll tell you what I'd do if I was the UFC with Hamzat. We're not doing this whole Robert Whitaker and contenders. You haven't beat anybody. I think they give Bo Nickel a pretty good test next, and then it's Hamzat-Bo Nickel. I love it. You guys figure it out. I love it. So who do you give Bo Nickels a test? Like, who's a good test? Bo Nickels is going to get Adolfo. Oh, that's right. Is that in Madison Square Garden, or is that July? When is that, Jamie? I thought it was later.

But that's a good test for Bo. That's a very good fight. If he fucking mops the floor with him. All right, Hamzat, are you good? Can we do this? Adolfo Rivera is fucking dang.

dangerous. Super dangerous. Dangerous. He's also enormous for 85. World champion. Oh. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu world champion. Yeah, but your Jiu-Jitsu may not be good here with Bo Nichol. Oh, but he's been submitting everybody to it. I mean, it's a test. It's a real test. It's the right test. Yeah. And Adolfo looks like a fucking superhero. His striking's coming together. He looks like a fucking savage. He's so big, dude. He's so jacked.

There it is. November 9th. Oh, it is Madison Square Garden. Sign me up. Let's go. Now, Bo mops the floor with him or after the races? Yeah, Bo mops the floor with him, then Hamzat.

That's the fight next. That's what I would do. Yeah. If I'm the UFC, I'm like, hey, bud. Nope, we tried it. Abu Dhabi. Let's fucking go. Or do it in America. No, we can't get him over here. God damn it. I forgot. Bo's not going out there. He's not? Why? No. They asked Bo. It was Saudi Arabia. He's like, I'm kind of glad I missed the call. I don't want to go all the way the fuck out there. He would do it, though. He would do it. I mean, he did the international circuit, so he's not foreign to it. He would do it.

He would do it. I just think that that's an intriguing fight. The Rodolfo Rivera fight's an intriguing fight, and then the Hamzat fight is a captive. But Hamzat, who knows how much money Hamzat has now, you know, with all the relationships that he has and people throwing money at him. He might be wealthy enough to, like, fucking not do it anymore. Who knows? That'd be such a shame. Would be a shame.

But, I mean, what kills a fighter more than money? Nothing. Nothing. Comfort. And, again, I'll get annihilated for this. What do you got there? What'd you got? Is that wine? I went to the Stelham Bourbon.

Oh, look at you switching it. Some shit I never tried. There's a bunch of shit over there. Yeah, we got a lot of shit. If you want to be an alcoholic, this is the place to do it. But isn't that a fine line if you're Dana or if you're the UFC? It's like, yeah, we do got to pay them, but if we pay them too much, then they lose their drive. It's a fine line. Yeah, but kind of. Is that real? I mean, I feel like it's an accumulation over time and then fame, and then they have so much money. Like with Conor, he's fine.

flying around in private jets, got a Lamborghini. Yeah, I just said he was going to buy it. I'm buying a Bacardi for my fucking birthday. But that's my point, Joe. That's my point. He's the richest guy ever. I'll tell you what he can do without changing the paint too much.

It's like make sure like make sure they take a piece of each check and set aside for retirement fuck all that Save all that these guys get die in the ring. What about? You see that shot. It's so got it early on like medical. Oh, God. He's early on. Yeah, it's insane was a b16 sense It's a v16. It's a hybrid it has 1800 horsepower

That's it. 1800 horsepower? The fucking steering wheel has the gauges on it. The gauges are wild. And the steering wheel moves around the gauges. It's the most beautiful interior I've ever seen in a car. It's 4 mil? Yeah, it's 4 mil. There's 250 of them. They've sold them all. What? You can't buy one. Oh, no. It's impossible. You can't get one. It's like a watch. It's like a Swiss watch. Oh, bud. Here's the bummer about Bugattis. The people that buy them, they don't drive them. Yeah. So they just sit there. Bugatti.

So that really gets you going, huh? Well, not really. I wouldn't buy one, honestly. It doesn't get me going. I think it's dope. It doesn't get me going. It's not for me. I like Porsches. I like Mustangs. I would buy a new... Yeah, I'd drive it, but I wouldn't really. Do you know the maintenance on those? Just to change the tires every year is $25,000 a tire. Okay.

And it's not a place here. You have to ship it back to there. Ridiculous. It's over six figures a year to maintenance it. Yeah, I'm sure. It's like a private jet. And it's one of those that you're not allowed to sell it within the first five years or something. You can, but then if you drive it, it loses its value. They're a nightmare.

What is it? So, tourbillons are a movement in watches that is like the most precise movement in watches. So, they have watches that are tourbillon watches that are $400,000, $500,000 for a watch just because of the movement. And you see the tourbillon inside the watch. Like, Jamie, pull up like a Grand Seiko tourbillon watch. Because Grand Seiko has an insane tourbillon watch that they just released. Oh, shit.

Yeah, Richard Mille, $2,500,000 for a tourbillon. Richard Mille watches are crazy expensive. What?

But this Grand Seiko Tourbillon is fucking beautiful, man. Look at the machinery, the gears and stuff going on inside that watch. People who like watches, that's a real watch. I know it's not a Rolex, but Grand Seiko, you know watches are fucking wild. I think that one is $300,000. Jesus. How much does that bitch cost? What's the Grand Seiko?

How much does a Grand Seiko Tourbillon cost? Do you have one, Joe? No. Really? No. I'm not interested in those things. I'm interested in looking at them, but I don't like rich guy fancy things. Right. I like Mustangs and shit. You like things that have utility, right? Yeah, I like things that are fun to use. Oh, bro, you know what you need to do? I'll take the rich guy food, though.

Oh, yeah. Rich guy foods. I'm all over rich guy foods. Joe, you know what you should get? $350,000. $350,000. Constant Force Tourbillon. Joe, you know what you need to get for us? Buy Forrester's. You get it and then send me pictures. What? The Mustang GTD. Oh, the GTD. I'm down with that. There's only 300 of them. Oh, really? I applied for it. Come on, Ford. Hook me up. They're going to do it. I just got a Hennessy Raptor R.

That's wild. Yeah, it's being built right now. Do you still have the... GTD? I'm getting rid of that. I'm getting rid of the TRX. What's the GTD? This is the Mustang's version of a GT3 RS. It's at Nuremberg right now. It's fucking insane. 800 horsepower.

fucking preposterously wide, crazy grip, street legal, but just barely. Do you see the shocks in the back? No back seat. And so there's an open glass thing. We can see the suspension moving. Really? Insane. It might be the greatest American car that's come out in a long fucking time. Near 50-50 weight balance. It's got a rear transaxle. It's fucking insane. And it looks awesome.

Incredible Mustang well guy dry some oil system. It looks incredible and all the carbon fiber Yeah, cuz you know you know Farley the have Mustang he went in and was like I don't know guys the fight is happening Jesus Christ. Oh fuck We haven't even paying attention it's 443 in boy. We're right. Let's save the car talk for after this just started Oh very interesting fight Whitaker so good at blitzing

He's so good. He's so light on his feet. Very interesting style. Different than anybody else. Always on his toes. You know he's supposed to be on the Australian wrestling team too, but the UFC nixed it. Really? Yep. That's how good he was at wrestling. Oh, let's cross Chad. Watch this. Let's cross Chad. I think he has five kids or six. He has a squad. He has a fucking squad. Good low kick. Yeah, he can... Let's cross really good at just...

Just missing man really good head movement We got to wonder what kind of condition he has two weeks before he takes it late late like last minute like where is he at in his training? Was he peeking you know and he's preparing for three rounds not preparing for five and he's facing in who is he supposed to be facing? You find out Jamie who Alice Garoff was supposed to be fighting I think Whitaker either wins by decision or beats him in the fourth Whitaker just jabbed him

Very interesting fight. I imagine the wrestling edge goes to Alyssa Croft. MMA wrestling is different, though. Robert Whitaker is a motherfucker to get down. His hips are wild, dude. And then you've got to get in there. Good luck.

Alex Gares, a combat world champion, combat samba. Oh, he hurt him. He hurt him. He hurt him real bad. He hurt him real bad. Oh, I love his kicks. When he knocks out with the kicks. Oh, that's it. That's it. That's it. It's over. Holy shit. It's over. That's it. Bobby Knuckles. Oh, my God. First round. You give him a title shot, right? Yeah. Oh, my God. That was over with the shimmy. He had him out there like.

Oh, no. When you see him fall up with a kick, that bitch is over. Bobby Knuckles. Fuck yeah, Bobby Knuckles. Let's go. Let's go, Robert Whitaker. That's so sad right now. Dude. Fuck yeah. Dude, you go all the way out there for that. Look at him. Dude, he's a savage. Knock this fucking kid out who's no punk. Holy shit. And it should be Paulo Costa. And did it in the first round.

Wipe the floor with him. That's the first time that guy's been knocked out like that since Jemaiah fought a guy like Robert Whittaker. First time he's fought a guy like Robert Whittaker. You're ranked what? Oh, I'm not ranked. Cool. Come fight the number three guy. God, that's what you realize. So he was supposed to be fighting Tricoli. Interesting. Interesting. And Tricoli just lost a share of a bullet. Interesting. Wow. Yeah. Big step up from Tricoli to Robert Whittaker. Look at that right hand. Look at that right hand. Look at that shot.

It's the Blitz. It was Whitaker that came in last minute. No, Whitaker was supposed to be fighting Hamza. Oh my God, that uppercut. My goodness. There's just levels to the game. Yeah, and he's the top of the top. And see, this is why it's tough. If you're that kid's manager and like, hey man, we got a call. You're fighting Bobby Knuckles. You're going, oh my God, what an opportunity. I sprained my ankle. Yeah, I broke my pinky toe. I have food poisoning. This is where you see how good Whitaker is. Fuck! Fuck!

Or you see how good the UFC is when you're at the higher echelon, because this guy's gone through everybody. Watch his uppercut. Look at his uppercut. Dank. Damn. Well, if you need to see this to see how good Bobby Knuckles is, you're a moron. Yeah. He's a bad man. He's been doing it for a hot second. Wars, too, with like Yoel Romero. Those fights were crazy. I mean, Yoel's gone. Yoel's over in Bellator now at 46 years old. Look at that. Bobby Knuckles still torching people. Oh, my God.

There's levels to it. I say he gets the winner of Izzy. Then what do you do with Strickland? He's ranked number one. It's a good question. I want to see the Strickland-Izzy rematch. I wouldn't be upset if Strickland versus him. I wouldn't be upset with that. Strickland-Whitaker main event for pay-per-view? Right, and you can't hit Strickland like that. He's not there. He's standing up like this. He's moving. He gets hit less than anybody. I'm surprised that's not who Izzy wants. Who?

Strickland. Because Strickland beat him? Yeah, but him and Drekus do pussy. We're talking so much shit. They don't like each other. And Drekus has the title. Yeah. So Izzy gets the title, then he calls out Strickland. Strickland and him rematch. You know what the UFC's going to do? I would be willing to bet they do Whitaker-Strickland, and the winner of that is guaranteed a title shot. That's what they're going to do. Because think about it. Whitaker's healthy. I don't think he got touched. Strickland's healthy. They're sitting there. And that Izzy fight is when? That is solid shit.

See, it's hard to see the difference between how good they are. When you watch that, that Asimov, you watch his fights. Then you watch. Al Scarif. Al Scarif. And it's hard to, it's hard to see the difference sometimes. So August 17th. Yeah, that's close. That's real close. That's only a month or so away. Wow. Two months. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. So two months away, that fight happens. You're getting Strickland Whitaker. I know, but you got to go to Australia. They're both from there.

Well, one's New Zealand, one's... South Africa. That's right. Neither one's from Australia. Yeah. Yeah.

Same area. Over there is it? It's not America, but it might as well be. Same area. Yeah, whatever. Africa, Australia, New Zealand, same shit. They're from over there. Same shit. It's all lower. Dude, that's it. He's got to think about his future now. Shop just has a globe in his house where it says America and everything else is just not America.

Alice Garrow fights two elite guys and gets starched by both of them. Just lets you know where you're at back to the drawing board. Yeah. That's life. In a big way. Robert fucking Whitaker. Sometimes you gotta fight those guys to realize where you're at. This shows you DC should have been a 185-er. And you gotta remember, Robert Whitaker started his career at 170. 170, yes. Wonderboy knocked him out. Whitaker's no joke.

Man, what a career he's had. Such a good guy, too. Seven first-round finishes. What's the record? Isn't that the record? Not even close. Seven first-round? I don't think so. Oh, you're saying first-round finishes? I don't know what that is. It's probably like 13 or something. That's pretty high, though. Seven's a lot, especially middleweight. Yeah, it's probably up there.

Robert's a tough fight for Strickland. He's a tough fight for everybody. That's a great fight. But Strickland's a tough fight for everybody. At that level, where those boys are at those top four, good fucking luck. Yeah, it's a deep, deep division right now at the very top. It's great. It's 10. Who has 10? Jim Fisher. Jim Miller. Oh, Jim Miller, yeah. Look at that shot. What's that? Frank Muir's got 11. Frank Muir's got 11 first round finishes? That makes sense. Heavyweight?

Yeah, amazing. Oh, look at that. Dude. Dude. Totally unique style. Look at that fucking uppercut. It's just his ability to see openings just faster. He's elite, man. He's a world champion. He's a legit world champion. This doesn't make sense. It says the record is 10 for Jim Miller, but then it says the second most is 23. What? It doesn't make any sense. What are you looking at? 23 first round stoppages? The record for first round finishes in the UFC is held by Jim Miller with 10 first round finishes.

Here are some other interesting facts about first round finishes. What a great feeling. Who has 23? Andrei Arlovsky has the second most first round finishes with 23. Arlovsky? I never would have called that. And Donald Cerrone has the third most first round finishes with 23. I think it's your Android. This is just AI. This is the AI shit. That doesn't make any sense. That doesn't make any sense at all. Let's chat, GPT. Yeah, let me ask. Who has the first round finish record for the UFC?

Five UFC fighters, first round finishes. Oh, Charles Oliveira? Oh, yeah, that would be there. No, no, that's the record for finishes. Five fighters with the most first round finishes. That's the article I clicked on, and it says Frank Mir's got 11, but I don't mean... 11 would be the record. Frank Miller? Frank Mir. Right here it says UFC Fight Night 71, Frank Mir sets the record for first round finishes. So Donald Cerrone is number five with eight. What else we got?

Amanda Nunes. She's got nine. Damn. That makes sense. They're talking about her coming back. To fight Kayla. Kayla. That's a fucking fight. I like that. Kayla looked great. She looked real good. She's big. Getting down to that 135. Arlovsky has nine first round finishes. So he's number three. And one terrible split decision. Number two, Jim Miller, 10. And number one, Frank Mir, 11.

All time. Makes sense. Heavyweight. Yeah. Also, Frank Mirren in his day was a fucking murderer. Savage. Oh, my God. He broke two different world champions' arms. Yeah. Yeah. Snapped. Noguera. Yeah. Tim Sylvia and Noguera. Horrible. Snapping bones. Both of them, when I called it, I went like... He's always got seven weapons on him at all times. And Noguera was like fucking... It was like Talladega Nights. He was like, go ahead and break it. Why does he only have seven?

What did he say? He says he always has seven weapons on him at all times. For real, though. Oh, oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean for real. Like two guns. Guns, knives. Gun holster, knife. I mean, unbelievable. You are talking about the wrong guy to fuck with. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. And if it's not a knife, you prefer the knife. Yeah. With him, it's a nightmare. Yeah. Correct. You know what's always interesting to me is when guys are, you know, when talking about, you know, Armageddon, like, you know, the day's coming, but they don't run. Their cardio's not very good. Yeah.

He's got bad knees, actually. That's why I run. I run all the time now. If the shit pops off, you'll be able to run. Well, somebody said that. No one thinks about that. I was hanging out with this truck guy, and he has a whole bunker for the Armageddon doomsday. And he's this big guy. I'm like...

How are you going to get away? What are you going to do, bro? He's like, and then we get in the mountains. I'm like, how? Have you ever jogged up there, pal? Can you even walk through mountains? You ever tried carrying 80 pounds up mountains? You ain't getting to those mountains. No, but I'm going to get to the mountains. I'm going to take your gear and run up. I'll meet you up there. How much are you running? Three

Three miles a day usually. When did you start doing this? About four months ago. I started with three miles, then I went to two, then I did it as fast as I can. What made you want to start running? He's always running. Just getting in shape. Your knees aren't fucked up from all those years of fighting? No, not at all. That's crazy. Why didn't you do the 5K, the Two Bears 5K? I don't know. They invited me to. I forgot.

CD. Straight up forgot. I had no... I didn't know until I saw a picture of Jelly Roll doing it. I used to run three miles for breakfast. I was struggling so hard. No training. Why didn't you train a little bit? I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know I don't know I just I don't know what the fuck I just don't know yeah if you want to get mentally tough run in and do it like people do all this shit just go outside and run man it's fucking tough dude like that second mile the third you're like fuck oh running is hard run's tough man it's the easiest it's cheap yeah oh it's the cheapest it does get you in shape but there is a there's a minimum shape you gotta be in for that to be the thing you're doing to stay in shape you know

No. You just do a little bit of running. But if you're like morbidly obese and shit, you're going to fuck your hips up. Just kind of shuffle. You just shuffle a little bit. You know what the worst thing? Swimming. Start walking and then turn that into a jog and turn it into a sprint. The most painful thing is that Aerodyne bike. That to me is like... Oh, that's hell. It puts me...

I hate it so much. It's hell. I hate it. Nah, do Jacob's Ladder. I'll do a minute. That's awful, too. That's awful, too. VersaClimber. VersaClimber. Fuck you. That's hell. VersaClimber, fuck your day off. All those things are hell. Both of those things are horrible. But even if you don't have access, go Sprint Dog. It will fuck you up, man. You do sprints with 10-second rest, dude, it will get you in shape fast. It's so hard to do. You better be careful, though. You can pop shit if you're not...

That's what's really crazy. Chael Sondland said the best about fighting is it is impossible to fight at full pace for five rounds. You can't do it. No one can do it. You can't fight at full pace. Chael goes, I don't want to do anything for 25 minutes. It's true. It's so stupid. If you're going to go at a fight like this against elite fighters, you've got to pick your times. You've got to know when. It's so strategic. Yuri...

Alex Pejeta, too. You know, he's a different dude, man. He's a different dude. Yeah. He's a different dude. This is why I have Alex high up on my pound-for-pound list, because part of the pound-for-pound is you've got to fight anyone anywhere. You're that bad motherfucker, and Alex is that dude. How many times is he going to do it? Well, he was trying to get a shot at Aspinall. I know. He was down. Did you see Aspinall talked about it? He said he sat next to him at a press conference, and he could tell he looked at him like he knew he... He's like, he's looking at me like he knew he could beat me.

Alex is a different dude. He's a different dude. Like my pound for pound, you got to be that dude where the UFC calls your name, you do it. And now, Cowboy was that guy. They call you and you do it. But he wasn't doing it for titles. Right. Not like Alex is a fucking world champion. He's like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. What? You could call him tomorrow and ask him to fight for the heavyweight title. That's why I have him so high on my pound for pound. Everyone's like, that's ridiculous. Look at his level, strength of fucking schedule.

Ian Machado, Gary, and Michael Page. That to me is the one that I look at and I go, whoa. That should be co-main event. Joe Pfeiffer is going to come out guns blazing. Because he burned himself out in that last fight.

You know, he's going to come out against Marc-Andre Barrio with just a little bit more understanding of pacing. You know, he got through that fight where Joe Pfeiffer is one of the most fucking terrifying guys on the feet. He's so scary. He's so fast. He hits so fucking hard. He beat Francis Ngannou's punch count. He's a fucking 185 guy. So powerful. Crazy power. Just preposterous power on the feet. It just, he burnt himself out. Well, you know, Jack Kermanson is seasoned. He's

He's a real veteran, real veteran, and knew what to do, good enough on the feet to kind of drag him into the third, fourth, and fifth rounds, wear him out, and then at the end of the fight, he was just the fresher fighter. But a fight like that, where he's at in his career, perfect. He learned. Because you don't want to learn that when you're fighting the top five cats. Learn it now. We'll forget about it. Who gives a fuck? But Joe Pfeiffer has everything to be a world champion.

Everything. I agree 100%. Everything. He's that motherfucker. He is. He is. And, you know, those fights like that where you get kind of humbled, those are good for a guy like him. Best thing for your career. Didn't get KO'd. No. Didn't get beat up. Just lost the fight. He learned a lesson. And lost the fight at a fight where he's dominating in the beginning with terrifying shots. Yeah.

But you can't take everybody out with big power. Sometimes you've got to set things up. You've got to pick your shots. Especially veterans. They've been there before. They don't panic. Exactly. And you've got to keep that power into the third, fourth, and fifth round. So if you've emptied the gas tank in the first two rounds trying to take a guy out and he's still there, fuck. Fuck.

That was the best thing to happen to him. Yeah, very good thing to happen to him. He probably didn't think that at the time, but he will. Yeah. When he's champion, he'll be like, oh my God, thank God that happened. I'm pumped for that. Me too. I'm pumped to see where he goes. I mean, that division is fucking deep, man. How about Pfeiffer versus fucking... I mean, that would be a crazy fight. Bo Nickel versus Pfeiffer? Take my fucking money. Oh my goodness. Take my money. Take my money. To me, the best thing in the UFC is not when the guy gets there and he made the money and the fame. The best is the come up.

If you watch Joe Pfeiffer coming up, watch Bo, you watch him go through it and you see him evolve. It's the best thing in fucking sports. How many guys have we seen that are so elite? We're like, I don't know. He might not make it. He might make it. Because it's so hard to do. When Connors come up, Mike, it was such a special time. And the hype was there. He was calling it. You're like, what the fuck? I know. It was the best. I get goosebumps. It was the best fucking time in sports. There's nothing like it. I think right now is the best time.

I really do. I don't think there's ever been better fighters. I think I've never been more excited about weight classes and never been more excited about matchups. You know, there's so many good fighters. You know, Leon Edwards versus Bilal Muhammad is not getting the respect that it deserves for whatever fucking stupid reason. People don't like Bilal Muhammad. I don't get it at all. I think he's awesome. He's a great guy. He's a cool guy. Great guy. He's a really great guy. Great guy. And people don't want to see him fight. It's just...

Thank God the UFC didn't bend the knee to the fans complaining. Those fans are ridiculous. I got a prediction on this, and he disagrees with me. I think because he's Palestinian, you're going to see the entire Arab world come out for this fight. Oh, they definitely will. I don't think that's controversial at all. No, no, hold on, hold on. He said it's going to be the most watched fight ever, most downloaded, paid-for-you bot ever because they're Palestinians. That's what you first said. Definitely most stolen. Most stolen for sure with young kids. Most pirated.

But as far as that being, and you and I have a good amount of money on this, you said it was going to be the most watched pay-per-view. Yo, you know another fight? I think it'll be big. It'll be big. It won't be the most watched. It won't be as big as Conor. But look at this. Bobby Green and Patti Pimblitt's going to be crazy. That's a real test for Patti. Bobby Green is a bad.

He's a bad motherfucker, dude. I think he's going to mop the floor with Patty. He might fuck him up. I mean, his stand-up is elite, and he's weird. Like, hands down. Real awkward. Jabs come at you from nowhere. Does this stuff. He goes, nah, he didn't hit me. Yeah, he talks shit to you. Patty's a bad motherfucker, though, man. Patty's a bad motherfucker. Special kid, too. Have you had him in here? Good grappling. No, no. He's one of those guys, when you get around him, you go, oh, I get it.

He just has that it factor. Bro, he just has the it. And that's why he gets all the sponsors. And he's probably more famous than he is skill level right now, but he'll get there. But when you're around him, like, oh, yeah. Scroll backwards again. Back where you were. This is another one. Arnold Allen and Higa Chikadze. That's a fucking great fight. I'm a scholar. We don't get knocked out. Oh, man. Arnold Allen's a motherfucker. Bobby Green's a bad man. That's a real test for Paddy.

Especially look at the Jared Gordon fight. But that was a good fight for him to get through. Realize, okay, I got to tighten things up. He tightened things up in his last fight. And now he's got Bobby Green. See, I like the Bo Nickel. I'm so glad that happened. I like that. Especially if I'm investing in a guy, I'm like, thank God that happened. Cody Brundage, get a little difficult. Thank God. Has there been a Japanese UFC champ or even ranked? Champ? No. Ranked, yes. Tetsuro Taira is elite.

There's a few guys that are coming up that are really good. I'm shocked that because, you know, pride came from over there. I'm shocked that.

They have some guys in Ryze in one championship. They have some studs. Bro, China's got some fucking killers coming up. Yeah, artificially created. Yan Xiaonan versus fucking... Zhang Weili was one of the best fights, but it got... Everybody forgot about it. Yeah, I hated it. Because Yuri Prohaska and Alex Beheadafal. I know. Everybody forgot about it. The Max Holloway thing, yeah. Was it Yuri and Alex on that card, or was it Jamal? It was... 300. It was Jamal. Jamal, that's right. Jamal. And then remember...

But prior to that was Max and Justin Gaethje and then the girl. Right. So you just were like, right. So Max does that. We're doing a fight companion in Calabasas. I didn't see the fight companion.

I don't know what happened. Because Max's fight was so crazy. I didn't give a fuck. No, I was running around and all crazy. And I was like, oh, main event. You know? Yeah, I know, right? But meanwhile, it was an insane fight. Yan Xiaonan got choked to sleep at the end of the second round. That's right. She was out. Yeah, I think it was the first. She got choked unconscious at the end of the second round.

And then the bell rang, and she's like, out cold. And it was like, where do I go? Wild. Go to my corner? That should be a win. But for the males right now, I agree with you, it's the best time ever. For the females, it's not. That's true. Female fighting is suffering right now. They need that star. Yeah, they need that big star. Because Amanda left at the top of the food chain. Yep. Joe, who is this guy, Turkey Alshake? He is who? He's...

Financing the whole thing? That's a good question. I mean, we'd turn up the volume so we could hear it. You always see him all the time. He's got that cheddar. He looks like he's in disguise. Like, that's not how he really drips. That dude is putting together some wild-ass fights, I'll tell you that. Yeah, I'll take it. I'm so glad those guys are doing that, that they have the kind of money to throw wild fights around. They're wild boys. They're going to have some wild cards over there. That's who drives Bugattis. You know, like Americans get them out there? Yeah. You don't give a fuck.

How much are the tires? Every one that's ever been built is probably over there. I wish it was acceptable for me to dress like that. It looks so comfortable. You look good when you go over there. Yeah, just cross. You should come over there with me for a fight. I will. And we'll all dress like that. That's how you deal with that 125 degree heat. Make sure all the weed pins are out of my... Are you naked under there? Did you see in Mecca, the Hajj, where they're all in Mecca? A bunch of people died. 1,700 people died of heat exhaustion. Yeah. Because it's 125 degrees.

But in the middle of praying, that's wild. That would make you not believe. Yeah. Did I live there? We all showed up to pray and 17 believe because God's like, I'm taking you. Yep. I lived there for three years. We used to, you could fry an egg. Just like that. Brian, uh,

No, but my father used to always wear a thobe like that. Well, that's why they come to L.A. in the summer, because it's cool. Correct. You call it a thobe? Yeah, a thobe. Saudi clears out for the wealthy. They leave in the summer. Yeah, they call it Saudi summers, and they come to Los Angeles. They drive around with diplomatic plates.

They drive around like Ferraris and Lamborghinis with diplomatic plates. You got to get out of the way, right? Because they don't get charged. They don't get charged for shit. Yeah, they were driving in Beverly Hills and fucking getting wrecks. Hey, how hot is Saudi Arabia in the summer? What are we talking about? 125 degrees. Yeah. It's hotter than... No, it's like 100. The record's one... Man, I live in Woodland Hills. It gets 110 or something.

Cry me a river. The record is 125. In Mecca, this past week, 1,700 people died because the temperature climbed to 125. Tuesday, it said it reached 117. But either way, 117, 125, it's the same fucking thing. That's valid. It sucks. And there are older people, by the way. Once you get past 100 degrees, it don't matter. Yeah, that's true. If it's humid and hot. 100 to 110 is the difference. We often had, last summer, they had a record like 410.

40 straight days. You know what? I shot archery outside every day for two hours in that heat. I'd bring a 64-ounce hydro flask filled with electrolytes and water, and I just shot outside. Not me. I was in the house with the AC pumping with my face in the refrigerator. I came inside, and it was like I jumped in the pool. My jeans were completely wet. My t-shirt was completely wet. I like it when it's hot. I like to work out when it's hot. I go in the sauna every fucking day. No, I've been to Abu Dhabi, though. Yeah.

Saudi to Dubai. Okay. Texas experiences hottest summer record in 2023. 80 days with 100 degree heat. 40 days with temperature of 105 or higher. And received less than 1.5 inches of rain. So it's humid here, though. And Saudi's really dry. Right. It's humid here. So you can deal with the dry heat way better than the heat. The humid's tough. Because you lose water in there. Yeah, because I went to Arizona recently. In the middle of that summer, I went to Arizona. And it was like...

like 103 degrees and I was like this doesn't feel hot at all. Like Houston to hundo? Ugh.

It's right by the ocean. Houston's rough. Houston gets muggy. Houston's rough. If you go to Saudi, by the way, and you just are respectful and say hi to people, they will treat you. If you go there with the Arabs and you show that you like being there or you're just respectful of the culture, they'll take care of you beyond what you can imagine. It'll be over the top. Really? Yeah. It's part of their culture.

Like, if you're their guest, you're protected. Tell you what, Dana White loves it over there. Oh, yeah. He loves Abu Dhabi. They're the best. He says the royal family are the nicest fucking people. Says they're, like, super cool. They're actually very progressive, he said. Really? Yeah. They're also a blast because they don't drink, really. By the way, listen to the podcast. What's that? Royal Family listens to the podcast. Shout out to the royal family. Shout out to them. They're awesome. Which is wild. You'd be amazed. On the treadmill, listen to Joey Diaz. I'm a good guy.

I'm going to get me one of those. What do you call it again? A thobe? A thobe. I'm going to get me a thobe. I'm aware. I'm aware. You have to go there. You have to go there. And if you show interest in the culture and the history, I'm telling you, man, you'll have the best time of your life. They'll treat you like gold. What if you already have a yarmulke on? Not good, right? Well, having said that, people always forget that in the Muslim world, the place that the

the Muslim world, the Christians killed the Jews typically. Traditionally. What about Lebanon? Well, Lebanon was a Phoenician port. So Lebanon was Christian and Muslim. The Civil War broke out because they were that way. But it was... Lebanon was always like... They were Phoenicians. They were like... They were the port where everybody came. It used to be the Paris of the Middle East. You would ski in... You could go to Faraya and ski, then go down to Coral Beach in the same day because the weather was unbelievable. That was...

that way. So Lebanon was the Paris of the Middle East. Still the best nightlife. I guarantee if you go there, it's the best nightlife on the planet. The Lebanese are the best. What do you do there? Anything you want. Smoke the hookah? Anything you want. And I'll put this on the record. I would say the most beautiful women on the planet

are probably centered right there. Do they huck to spit on that thing? Yeah, bro. No. Yeah. No, no, I'm not saying that. Do they go to that distance? But you go to Saudi and you see those women like when you're not, obviously they're going to be covered in public. You go hang out and see that. I'm going to take your ass to Colombia or Brazil, bro. Just as beautiful. Settle down. Just as beautiful. Settle down. Boys, let's bring this bitch home. Another fun podcast. Yes, sir. Another great fight companion. Brian Simpson, thank you very much. Thank you, brother. Thanks for coming in. What happens at a Michael Vennum page fight?

Oh, no, that's weeks from now. Oh, so when you say the main event, I thought you meant... No. Michael, Ben, and Paige, Ian, Gary fight next Saturday. That's next Saturday. I can't wait. I'm going to that fight. It's a week. Are you? Oh, that's right. I got your tickets. That'd be hilarious.

I'm bringing my nephew. Don't bail on me now. I just ordered my thobe from Amazon. Did you really? Yeah. You get a legit thobe from Amazon? It's from Amazon. Good man. Is that real? It's 30 bucks. I got a furry outfit from Amazon. Like a legit one? Yeah. Duncan and I dress up like furries. Sick. Maybe respect the furries because it's fucking hard. It's hard to wear that

They have sex in those things. I know they do. We wore the hats for like, what, 30 seconds? Five minutes at the most? Five minutes at the most. It was the quickest we bailed on our costumes. How much was that, though, man? 30 bucks. That can't be good quality. No? You get some bed sheets, Doug. Dude, it's just a sheet. It's great. It keeps you hydrated. All right. That's us.

with the furry costumes yeah and that's your outfit yeah that's my outfit weird i wore that for like five minutes and it was a cat you got it off amazon yeah that's hilarious i'd wear that for halloween that's a legit ass outfit it was fun hell yeah it's hard to wear though man and also like furries must have good neck strength oh he's got this big ass helmet on all day long it's a lot of weight that is like 10 pounds respect man sitting on your head respect to the furries all right

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Ooh. And up with King Chalks, everything. You buy merch to win. Okay. And I'm going to be at Comedy Works in Denver July 11th, 12th, 13th. And I'm doing Bottom of the Barrel for the first time outside the Mothership on the 14th. Okay. And I'm doing the Wilbur Theater at the end of the year. Tickets go on sale on Wednesday. Great spot. Nice. All right. That's it. Bye, everybody. Yay. We did it. Robert Whitaker did it. What, Jamie? Dude, I thought we were...