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#2233 - Scott Storch

2024/11/22
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Why did Scott Storch leave The Roots?

Scott Storch felt unappreciated and wanted more recognition for his contributions to the group. He was also hurt by a racial incident during a performance and felt his role was being minimized.

How did Scott Storch get started in music?

Scott Storch started by self-teaching piano and figuring out how to play his favorite songs. He joined The Roots and later left to pursue a solo career in music production.

What was Scott Storch's first major break in the music industry?

Scott Storch's first major break came when he met Dr. Dre through a mutual acquaintance. Dr. Dre was impressed with Storch's talent and invited him to stay in Los Angeles to work on music, leading to collaborations with major artists like 50 Cent and Beyoncé.

What challenges did Scott Storch face during his rise to fame?

Scott Storch faced challenges such as feeling unappreciated, dealing with racial prejudice, and later, falling into drug addiction and financial troubles.

How did Scott Storch's relationship with Paris Hilton influence his life?

Scott Storch's relationship with Paris Hilton introduced him to a new lifestyle of partying and excess, which led to his addiction to cocaine and a downward spiral in his personal and professional life.

What is Scott Storch's approach to music production?

Scott Storch focuses on creating unique sounds and breaking new artists. He enjoys the challenge of developing an artist's sound and helping them achieve success.

How does Scott Storch feel about the current state of hip-hop music?

Scott Storch appreciates the diversity and creativity in today's hip-hop scene, but he also laments the loss of certain musical elements and the influence of commercialism.

What role does balance play in Scott Storch's life and career?

Scott Storch emphasizes the importance of balance in life, especially in avoiding the pitfalls of fame and addiction. He believes that maintaining balance is crucial for personal well-being and professional success.

How has Scott Storch's perspective on luxury and material wealth changed over time?

Scott Storch has moved away from the need to flaunt wealth and luxury to impress others. He now values simplicity and genuine relationships over material possessions.

What is Scott Storch's opinion on the role of the media in shaping public perception?

Scott Storch believes the media often distorts reality to create sensational stories, which can unfairly portray individuals. He advocates for a more balanced and compassionate approach to reporting.

Chapters

Scott Storch discusses his early musical influences and journey from playing the piano as a child to becoming a professional music producer.
  • Self-taught piano player from a young age
  • Influenced by bands like Asia and Cheap Trick
  • Joined the Roots as a keyboardist and producer
  • Moved from Florida to Philadelphia with his father at 15

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were really roll and we're really lucky. Hey yeah I mean, look, i've got not hundreds of thousands of songs of thousands of thousands of songs. I'm told most often that most iconic or identifiable one is obviously still dry. We get give .

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Now if you watch my fingers while i'm playing that if I was just like a fucking in sterol, like just basic more of playing. But I wanted to do IT like sloppy, right? Like that perfect and perfection. You know, sometimes you want a nice shoppy beauty, or a, like you like a little .

great on your hardwood floor. Yeah, yeah. no.

That's where you know that perfect .

imperfection. How did you get started? Ah how did you get started making beats? What started you in music?

What started me in music? Okay, you go all the way back, all the way back, all the way back. Listening to like asia's borne cheap trick in a mirror with a kennst racket.

Think a lot. I could probably get some girls so like me if I look out to fuck and play this shit. And then my parents had, like us, but right piano in house.

And IT was piece of furniture. And I had a cassette. That time was all about cassez, the little baby cassette. I put IT on the piano, but and figure out how to play all .

my favorite songs.

Just self taught, yeah and you know, and up taking three or four lessons and the guy was like, you should just teach yourself really yeah like my family and my mom to get to the P. S. And I did my thing and like, it's at the point where my mom and dad, like, can you go outside and play with the kids and tired here in? And then that evolved into.

I moved with my father. My parents had divorced. My dad was a court porter og PH, and we moved from I W. I was born in new york as an infant, moved to florida. But but when I was fifteen, just turning fifteen, I moved to silly with my dad and I was really getting into music I was experiencing like hip hop now in my head, like what he was this I know what year was holding on. fifty?

Okay, seven years different than me. So yeah okay.

very horrible the years. But um talk at early ninety yeah is .

the beginning of like the big hip hop boom and year.

And when I first found a love for hip hop IT was this music that they were sampling all these like cool, like vender rode sounds like a like a tribe clock with.

If not, want to mind when I was that like, relax your self good that like native tongue, the daylight so right that type of shit was heavy and like, I was like, well, music is really great in this IT was different than like, I mean, I loved N. W. A, and I loved.

Like, but that was like hard core shit. And like this musically, gu and jazz. And like, all this shit was going around. So I ve got into that and I couldn't really afford a keyboard. I live in in filly. My dad was like, I was cut in school and going into the city from the burbs to like getting the music scene at this Young age and I was like, go go back to school and start fashion or get to work out. He's try to do me a favor, tough love, but I decided to get to fork out t and now i'm like out shopping at homes.

And that LED to moving into the fuck in hood in west filly with this guy who was an inspiring manager that was videographer that I met at my dad's court reporting firm, and kind of like half way against my dads s will. He took me in and we started hit in the pavement, man and I joined the roots, as they were called the square roots, and that I know the ban on, and I didn't have much money, and I bought what they call offender. Rose is is like big keyboard, which is they're very expensive now, positive vintage.

But at that time I could get that for like two hundred books. And I got the key where I A couple of broken notes on IT and shit I just made my sound with that was just like this. So fl, um this thing mean and join the roots.

And now among band member at simultaneously, i'm doing construction and filling for end of my like these like shell houses that I got to live in one for a while, and then I got my first place. I'm like living in this thing. He lived across the street in the kind of a nice one.

This is like super horrible neigh's hood. But he's got almost like the whole block. And like there's construction side on the first floor and to wop.

And this was like semi finished one, no electricity, but he ran a CD across the street and a power street from my electricity. I ran everything on that one power shift like I had a fuck in a space heater like this because that was freezing cold. I had like a keyboard set up like I can do my day and I was just, I made my existence.

And wow, if I had never made IT, I was like me, I just play IT barm and wetting and fucking call IT a day. But I rather do that, then be a counter of water or some other shit, right? And school wasn't for me, couldn't focus on anything with the .

music IT always bombs me out that there so many people out there like that, that do have, they have intelligence and ability, but the system just wants them to plug in to Normal jobs. You don't realize like a there's other jobs out there. There's other things you can do.

It's not conventional all the past, not clear. You know, you want to get in the music. You really fuck in.

Love music. Get in the music. Yeah, get in the music. And nobody tells you that.

Nobody tells you and they don't tell you. Like, find your nature within music. Maybe you can do the actual music, what you can become a promoter, or you can become the so many different fields within music that you do if you're an expert, if you have no talent and you have no business being in music, at least be honest with yourself because we know if we're going not like, right you know .

but what makes sense?

What action is no, as yeah you're a passionate person and you love something so much you're going to end up being good at. I think you're doing IT to get money or something else. It's like it's question of what you just want to be cool because you'd like a music.

But if you're so passionate about this that you're showing results and you're growing and you're seeing that when you watch people's reactions, I still do to this day, I want to study on playing some shit like I have this like weird. They were start receiving satellite, and I like playing, and I even receiving satellite I like to use. I'm not even there anymore.

I'm just like doing this thing. I've been going over for thirty years and I watched the room like they like this one. Okay, was used this. I mean that how I know if i'm moving people, we're receiving .

satellite is a great way to put IT because that's what like I always say that like there's sometimes I write things so like I didn't really write that yeah that's that came from somewhere I didn't have any effort involved this. They just came to me like a gift from the guards. That's why they always called the use.

You know, because the people that were, you know, shakespeare and those people, they really did kind of feel like I was being given to them. We all do the right. But doesn't everybody kind of say that when they are, be an honest, like anybody who writes anything, whether they are right literature.

whether the right music, comedy, what IT flows through? Yes, if you have to work for IT contract, sort like i've somewhat like if something doesn't come like I push myself. Yes, because technical stuff that you have to IT that initial light bub that goes off and just .

so yeah downloading side of light and it's the thing about IT is it's it's so hard to control. It's just IT comes and goes. It's there. It's not what .

you drinking is you .

is bag water.

I'm to tell what IT is. I get like information. I'm playing in piano, whatever. Like guys sometimes get like a little bit like and this is like hydrogen water.

okay? And I fuck with a friend of mine, my boy adam, like he's like to listen. I think you should try my water.

He's invest in all kinds of things and he just, he's been my best, one of my best friends of my whole life. Guy adam winter, fuck cool guy. I been down and out and fucked and do take me both. My sugar is, but you know he has this working water and him and randomly enough my boy, who's a big song writer, poo bear, they're given to go at this watering so but i'd like IT as each factor water dude, yeah, i've heard this stuff. It's really good.

So when you say you're getting uh, information in your hands, like couple tunnel type.

yes, sometimes things like sometimes if it's cold and my hands it's like zing or something, I can't really like go in and .

like you have U C B D, A U C B D or turn K I.

you too like, yeah, like I do that life stuff I do like a little shots. Like, yeah, you yeah there's a place in L. A that I like I don't have in my evie like real tight with of, you know, riceman is this thing in life is fucking they have great shit there. So I do that.

Oh, the sunlight place in in california. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I do. yeah.

Yes, rick is fucking. He's been an inspiration to me. And like, you know, everybody knows my story. You know, I look up to him because he was able to walk away from drugs right very easily and stay there for me.

I have a hard time with IT um I still struggle and like it's not rugs is to put IT blatantly it's pussy and drugs together okay it's a kilo va combination and drug sex and all that shit and like you know you get caught up in that wave and like IT starts glamorously in your career of doing drugs and I just not fucking in IT just turns into something really ugly so he walked away from me for a while he was like, you're fucking up again. But i'm in a great place now then. And I got good people around me and I smoke and, you know, I make my music and I chill these days. That's great. I've graduate.

IT was trying to tell you about your hands, like if you if you're getting inflation tion and you take a hydrant water, hydrant water, be great, but if you really want to cut IT down, what we were talking about earlier, so way to cut IT down. Stop eating things that give you information. That's the big one that will change everything. Yeah cut out all the sugar in the bread and .

you'll be amazed how really like a sugar guy, like some people eat sweet and should like me. I go lately because i'm trying to lose like a lot away. I've been eating fruit like constantly eating a great, and I feel so much Better because like I drink water to them, blue in the face on the hydrated. I'd eat fruits and should like that as like I feel like I just sticks your organs and like you just what is a lot, a lot of water, apples do you .

take any sort of electorates do I do I .

do I mean regularly .

um .

i'm gater red yeah gater red but there's other stuff. I know what it's called, but it's like a powder. It's supposed to be less and you just put IT in the water and it's .

accelerate quid.

I yeah I don't even there's .

a bunch of those that are really good yeah that you know you could take care that like obviously your fingers are still working, but if you started to feel like real discomfort, there's some things you could do. Cvd is a big one. Cvd helps so much.

My friend dave folding, he had authorities, the point where his hands were like, totally cruel and straight. His hands out. He started to C, B, D, and at all going away.

That's crazy. The benefit.

and it's incredible. IT really is incredible. The diet is a big one.

I think of getting my fair share of A, C, B, D and t from the school. We are not just that, not from the flower, but I like edible, not like this salt. I'm into rosen edibles.

The the difference is the CBD you can isolate, just the CBD you make. You make a much higher concentrates, really. Yeah, like I love this shit when I muscle.

So is a CBD m no affiliation CBD md, as this product called freeze, it's three thousand milligrams CBD. It's a role line. It's a role, so acting great.

I love IT, but they have great game's and oils and CBD is fan. Anytime you can eliminate information in your life, that's good. Yeah what is your personal life for your body? Just eliminate .

all so many people tell me this way of like mos yeah like people like there's the .

benefits of you hear about you learn about people .

eat IT um no, I don't know.

No, I don't know. I haven't tried IT, but i'm a big believer in ribes yeah everybody.

I like butterfly with a chart .

yeah i'm not really. Sea mos.

I ve never tried to shit every like you should do.

Cmos most is starvation food, really. If people believe when they couldn't find fish, if you could find fish you ate of fuck and fish, why would you that stupid? That's I think that's what most vegetables are. Most vegetables are starvation food. Yeah.

I think I fuck with salads. I actually enjoy sales. I do. I'm going to put dressing on IT and shit and like, yeah destroyed right?

Some match a little sees. I like oil and vinegar and vine like but I like I i'm not like religious about IT, but I just I know that when i'm only eating like meat and stake and eggs and I feel way Better and just like everything feels like it's in tune, my brain works Better. My body feels more relaxed. It's it's a changeable thing when I eat a lot of bulls shit, I feel that .

I met these coming from like being at fucked in the middle, nowhere kid leg, not a rich kid and not part of like some social like I should I I came up to a certain level of people that was like pretty insane. Like russian multibillionaire and .

that around those cat .

fucked in bizarre.

weird because they'll get you killed IT .

could have and yeah but like i'm hanging out this one guy who is my one of the richest men in the world and we're eating borch is like he who should eat soup every day is good. I'd know what i'm telling you. okay? I A lot of soup.

soup, good soup is best. Basically vegetable .

like the hot brand like that is a super good for you to live longer.

Well, I used to live in los Angeles. I used to go to jay's famous delhi and get there and get .

their chicken noodles. P they had good chicken noodle drive.

so I tell them .

they put us in IT. Normally, I like, I like deal, deal, deal. Yeah, like I got like a russian nani and different things like that that worked for and they put that fresh deal in. Oh, my god, and that just changes everything. That's like, that's like, mom.

I ever made a good like, you think about how cold russia is. Of course they make a good soup. yeah.

Anyway, that's cold. Going to make a good soup. yeah.

You don't hear like soup from texas, right? You here. Chelly, yeah, your soup.

And about the soup. K, O, K. So that kind of .

soup I had to put her, not squash. You put me at last night four seasons that's IT was good .

but it's a vegetable vegetable so that .

kind of stuff .

for they make a little the White swirls on the top like it's a lot of yeah fancy very .

fancy sky so so .

yeah music .

we started exact about how my music career of so earlier we were .

talking about where .

that is start and all the way back. So now, angry with this guy, Richard, that on the video ogpa, I was saying I met my dad's office. He took me in, started making attempt to be professionalized myself as a musician, join the roots.

We got a record deal, and I I loved IT. You know, I was now like a very like lucky guy to be involved in something cool. But I was bringing some real major to the table within the group.

And I just felt like after a while I wasn't appreciated and I was just going to be remembered. The guy put keys for the roots like, and I wanted more than that. I left the group, ran multiple.

The reasons some I usually don't talk about what like I, you know, boohoo, I felt sub reverse races and I know that people i've dealt with shit, like fucked up shit, and but I was just like kind of modified once I am on a stage. And I just remember on performing with the roots at in new york, this event called the black lily, playing the keyboards back in everybody up and this net. And somebody is wrapped in the point at me, the White devil, not one else. Just like a, what the fuck is happening here?

Like.

I no, no, he was fucked up. Shit grow. He really hurt me because i'm like I don't see color, I don't see any of that. Should i'm the most like just cool with small the fugger and that aspect like it's to me, racism bothers me but was like, you know my my family now we're not represented for me and let that have and just .

combined so someone on the stage, yes.

one of the rappers, am I going to say names IT was just like, how is this happening right now? And you know, I felt like all the credit and for all the like, big Melody and stuff that I was creating for the group was just being swept under the rug. And like I said, I gotta leave this group. I'm dating this good time who is like urging me not to you saying you're gonna be the pete best of the roots. You know who pete best is?

Yeah, the beetle.

he left. No beatles, yeah. So he was like, you're really a peat best. Like, that's cool. SHE actually dump me.

And and I I continued on my journey attempting to be a music producer and not join bans. And I met this guy through the whole process of being in the roots. His name is direct Jackson.

And he he embraced me til know you're so chAllenged. Like what? Give IT a go. And we would take these trips from philly to new york and just go to every a or every fuck in your label, trying people that context that this guide direct in new york key was from new york. Um you know, like he would just use them.

And then the first week we were doing that, we ve got a couple of bites. And one was my first client was boston rims, who i've never forget. Boston, like, believe is like, I and I went to the studio.

We made a record, one shot, one kill. Maybe that's how IT is. Like, you get one shot, you know, is I like? And we made blood out, which was a on his album energy.

And we also got that same week, maybe three days later, coupon and or ega and CNN and the album know know he's got is like is like, you know, his whole world in pocket now. So he's proud of a guy, great guy. But they believed to me in the day I went in, i'll never forget IT capone, whose partner was coming home from jail that day.

And the theme of the day was, I guess he got them some girls, and like, like on the way to studio to come work. And now he's like, all day you getting, it's nothing, it's nothing to come home from jail with these girls in your limiting and come work with me. And scope and this and IT was just amazing day.

We made music. We made like three. And then I was off to the races and I was making music, wow, and hope bunch cool stuff in between there.

And then still I make the money. But i'm now like, do and shit. You isn't IT funny .

that that fear of, like the pete best type thing. That's such a real thing in the beginning. You don't have any idea where your future is going to be.

I now would see you on, yeah like they're appearing here. They're doing this and that be like a fun. But what did I do?

I hold in there and then I always like people say this, but i'm like, fuck in very harmony is person. I always do good for everybody I never like you can accuse me being a lot of things, but being as that. So when I was in, uh, my first trip to L A, alright, I went to L A performance.

I did this, this open mike at the Martini lounge was my first time ever going to california. And IT was like, IT was a root event. I wasn't in a group anymore.

But like, where ever had to do? I was going to make a few hundred box to go away. Background on this, on this thing, IT wasn't the roots.

IT was like an open migc with random people coming in this. Okay, so I did this thing. And who do I see come up to me? But a chicken I knew from filly and SHE was like storage.

She's like, I can't believe this, but I signed a record deal with doctor dry and aftermath that's wow. That's crazy so she's like, i'm a hook you up with you. You're always fucking good to me and filly and you never tried to smash you.

Let me go in studio and we did cool stuff together and like he was a botanic thing, like if he was my home girl and sure enough, I go and I meet up with tray i'm waiting for to come out coming the lobby. Like nervous is how I don't have anything to play for. I have my fingers that about IT and I go into a room and he sits me down is like, how are you good at dum keys?

I start playing forum and this and that he's real quiet and just like listening and my 噶 一 nothing is coming from this。 I'm going to go home today. Today he leaves the room.

I've still sitting in there. I'm like, I don't know, I should be just leaving. I'm supposed to stay in here and is to Larry chapman, like one of his like head do this comes back.

This joy wants you to stay here for a long time and get a hotel. And here's some money. I was like.

really OK what? Stay here for a long time.

Let me know if joy wants you hear and like, you can stay because I I was going to get on a plane back to filly that night and remember I went back to the hotel. I got more my shit now being switched like a fancy hotel, and i'm like china and I got some money, went rented of working five series V W. And I was like, well, I am in L A, but the first time I have money, I just met jay.

I'm about to make a fucking album with dogs trade. Well, next day ago I go to the study. I meet up with trying and he's tell me me all kinds of cool shit man, like he accepted me into his world.

Like IT was like such. I was so real, though, but a new, I was so real. I got stay for a long time.

I got this. I got this, tell me, I got this wrapper that is really chAllenging. Believe in him, but White and in that in walks mmm wow.

And like he let me finish up some record that he was doing with him. He was like one of e's first releases, like just the two of us i'm think about. And I played a little keys on that over to the next day.

Me and jay went in to work on his project, and we made big egos, which made IT. So that's like that one shot, one killed thing like that first day worked out. IT LED to me being a long rays you know side and in his his camp for a very long time. But there's a handful .

dudes like you out there in the world that I call like a musical magician. So there's there's people that people call upon, you know like you got ta get storch produce, but what is that like what separates you from other musicians? Makes you so what do you think .

about IT?

Or would that take the .

barely time? I should.

but you think out some .

geese shit. I will tell you about that russian, all the guard. Okay, he looked at me one time and he's a Scottie.

You are not playing this keyboard. You are fucking the piano. I don't know what you do, you it's right. I'm not educated guy but like, I have risen like on some different shit like bob James, like your boys black the black keys, like love those things, not to jump around too much, but working with them was the first time where I feel like I did anything good. I can't explain IT and I have all these hits like the Candy y shop.

Is that beyond, say, every single I like the first time I really got into a on some of real touch, the culture, real ship, not what people like trap music and blue shit that yeah, this is like the real as IT gets. And I got to use these vintage keyboards on plane ship with a wa pedal on keyboard and like, going crazy. And like, if you look at my instagram sometime, you'll see somebody to do that i'm doing.

Like, still I do. I watched all time their studio insane. And like, and those toys, like, I was really tapped in in, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was so much fun. But I just love .

those two guys. They're just, and they're so fucking and talented. Man, we saw out here at stubs fuck IT was so different. Man.

some about this well is a great place to make music. Well.

think about how much great music is come out there. And then the memory that is burned into the city. I believe in that.

I believe that places have memory. You know, i've really, do you feel that? I think there's an element. I mean, it's not everything about a place, but I think places have memory.

You know, I think that a place like national, I me, and also it's small enough because is kind of a tight community. Everybody kind of knows everybody is somebody. Musicians there, kid rocks there, black keys A K rocked .

me was read the uf kid .

rocks my favorite fuck and think of all time was going to giant track of land in nashville. And seeing is flock and .

White house yeah, like with the rotating dining room in the flutter .

crazy .

out of his mind, he did well met. Yeah, he was what I know. I met him. I met him. He's to come up to the studio when we were making the chronic alone with I think was like IT was like visiting I think with a lot with m and m of student, some other stuff. But he was there quite a cool guy in ah he's always at the .

usc with trump but layer because trump comes into american badass, the crowd is not when they know he's there and the kid rocks bine. It's like they were republican .

adventure do would I performed at morosofia longer way? Yeah, I jammed out, did a black for trump thing and I IT was cool.

Man jeff die was, tell me he's done. Stand a bit morale. go.

How crazy is that? Yeah, a fucking and he is genius, really. He got a sick, sick Operation with that morale go was in saying through.

I need to check IT out we thought about doing, we do this podcast called protect our parks with shame gilles, our fear mark Norman, crazy pock. We get hammered and drink beer idol, like there's giant freedom bonds at eagles. Ask all you drink at the beer ado and we talked about doing one from morocco. We might do that.

That's cool. I'm supposed to go there. I think about go there for us. A on the thirteenth. They're doing some kind of event like a roaring twenties vibe dinner and then .

like a whole weekend of the roaring .

twenty years like .

it's like like you wear the outfit, what they were was on your wing twenty years outfit I would imagine like yeah like the peaky blinders .

with those do wear yeah .

what they wear, the twenty, the shelves, zoot suits. Man, where wrong?

Twenty e's men ah yeah.

that looks like that .

crazy, crazy.

That nice hats just went away. We were talking about that the other day, and we were watching our old school fight with jack Johnson and every man on the street, like waiting in line for the fight, all the people in the audience for the fight, all of my fancy hats on men used to just wear. Fancy had not happened.

Fancy has just fell apart. Like if you were in the fancy hat business in one thousand and twenty, like, bro, we got IT forever. Fancy has going away, but fancy has completely .

fucked on. If a couple of companies, I friend I was where it's like some fancy compi.

i'm sure these companies, but it's not like they like baseball heads. Everybody buys baseball and you know but fancy had one way. If you would ask those fancy hat people, do you think one day the president will be borrer in a baseball hat or a fancy hat? They like a fancy had he's the fuck .

in present.

great. No fancy has just fell on a style.

Yeah, I think you can .

bring you back either.

It's become a much more casual world, I believe. And it's like, i've mean, sometimes I always bitch like people you have to dress. When we used to go out, I will put on a sport coat and where you know but like at the end of the day, like it's obvious yeah it's .

nice to dress up sometimes yeah .

I i've just changing my whole fashion way like friend of mine said something he's like even though I have nice things like he's like you don't need a vari be the ferry when you walk in a room is a fuck in your own south beach and all these fucking guys that barely have a potter piace in a get lambo in the fuck and valley and ice out and shit like I want a king in that ship I was filter rich in all I as well just landed a fuck in spaceship on top of the country like I was doing everything.

But lately I just turns me off. I look at myself and I look like, I feel like a poser. I like the richest guy in the rooms wear in a fuck, in a fuck, in a bear bones. No diamonds type shit. Like.

look at mask. yeah. Do words occupy mars? T shirt doesn't I watch? You know?

So hang.

don't I think what happens is in the beginning, you want everybody know you doing well, so you have all your stuff on, you dress really nice, know, like cow Scott looks good, looks sharp. But then when you're undeniable, you reach a point your life for you, just like, what am? Who am I doing this for? This is stupid with you.

like me. And you have a point, your life where you had one hundred million dollars and you were trying to impress everybody and you fuck and didn't have any respect for, like my financial manager walked away from me back and they say your own manageable.

Why you crazy .

going spend so much .

money here? Yeah you lose everything .

yeah you want to like fake IT and be like, no, I still got IT and like, i'm the guy with the most of noxious set of diamonds I don't broke his shit because I just wanted to look apart by ego wasn't let me like, go I should.

That's a negative feedback loop because that doesn't feed into art either.

What's the opposite? Doesn't I had the set of all of that. I like really take IT back and nothing like I don't care about labels and shit. I like nice things but not I don't like have to do to pull up on the club but there's nothing wrong with the first eleven that just a great car like yes.

there amazing .

thing you for me now whatever I do and um i'm just like i'm really getting into my music. I'm getting into a lot of things.

I appreciate boat things. I appreciate people who dress real nice, and I appreciate people who don't give a fuck. I think there is a place .

for happy medium.

And then stuff is not life. Life is not your stuff, no, but some stuff is fucked and cool. How you like cat Williams, when he was here, he was not even live in here or stay in here, and somehow that he got a electric rolls so easy, easier for a day to do a show.

And was that he doing to show somewhere else or something like going to be somewhere about one of things? He said, he said, when you're set in his car, you know what? You spend your money because it's like, it's you.

We go up. I know why this is six hundred thousand dollars. Look how fucked and amazing this thing. No, I was on the place things.

I just like them for a different reason.

You don't write them for show and off. You like him because you like them because they're awesome.

There's nothing wrong with luxury.

There's nothing wrong with luxury.

You work hard. But the .

problem is you trying to show everybody you're loxia instead of .

just enjoying IT or prioritizing IT before your children or before things before food IT shouldn't come .

before anything. That should be just a fun thing. And when you get to a level success that you're at, if you don't figure that out, that's when is the when someone makes IT on the money and doesn't go all its not about the things, it's about the relationships that I have.

It's about my friends, it's about my loved ones, my family, it's about the people that I work with. It's about everybody having a good time. It's about let's i'll get together and break bread and eat and and hug each other and tell each other we love each other and do great work and have a good time and just enjoy this life experience.

That's the thing. That's the thing. The car is just like.

that's cool.

good yeah .

you pull up. People have to offer in their that great well you know that .

the promise that seemingly the most unattainable thing when you broke and you see some guy pulls up in a brand new nine eleven like, what the fuck? This is yours, it's mine. Blooming.

I book goddess and all kinds. I had everything. I went for the best car collection on folking empt v crips.

I have like twenty six cars. Well, if you name, I had like ten million dollars. Ars, like, crazy shit, like i'm an area, but at any rate.

yeah, but those are fun to afford.

No, yeah, but I live to the billionaires life as a man, I was zero. But recently I met a guy. He just met Kevin.

Kevin is a fucking lake. Just a great person. I I had met him years and years ago. He was the head of security for fifty cent. And when he he brought fifty to my house to do the Candy y shut okay? And that's when I met him, but I last touch with him for so many years and just, you know, nothing long go to room at him at the studio a sky bb, at circle house.

I got you got this guy wants to you met before, but you want to meet you he's now the owner of the platon security group, which is like one of the largest corporate security companies in the nation. Like as guy won't so much real state, don't half a poker talon. He's like a major freaking guy.

And he, like we started, he wanted initially hire me to do some music for some artists that he had a record label. And we ended up partnering on that record label partner ing on these different type things that were given projects instead that we're doing. And he is like, go, first of all, you need to get the fuck out of miami. I want you to move in our north to boke a so you can focus and really make them music and stop worrying about because miami, like, start slipping into always and girls well and it's so much fun and it's so fucked up and there's so much as there's so much drugs and there's so much everything and it's like.

fuck that, you should have to have a passport to go to my ARM. That is not america. That's some new thing.

That's some new thing. Well, d, it's good to there. And energy on road, beautiful waterfront living right Normalcy and just far enough to wear the garbage is not going to get you everyday.

You can get there, everyone. But yeah, you're outside. It's like like from the outside.

Move up here since I did that. That's why so many great things are happening yeah even just like unlocking you know you block your blessings like I was blocking my blessings and start to come on here with you. It's talking to tell him my story and like like things like that are happening.

Great things. I have an artist that um you know working on. I have my album. I decided, like, you know, what makes album is got all of different people.

And like I like, like, I ve made my whole life of us making hit records for labels and for their artists. Why not develop artists and do my own album and use some of those artists for my projects? And um yeah i'm pulling out a slew of singles. This girl, abby stair, that Kevin introduced me to is like, so amazing. I think there might be a picture somewhere of that I was told like, because I am using her for my single, for my first single, even though, you know, we're going to be developing her album and but i'm doing my single features her and then I hold bunch of other ones that I am going to be putting out. I have a Young blue and have time to singles um but we have we have this song and yeah i'm excited and like i'm doing the things I always wanted to do taking like full on a initiative now and you think moved an .

hour outside miami was a big part of I think .

yeah I know it's like to baLance yeah baLance .

you need baLance men. You need to be able to go hard, but you need to be able to recover, relax and focus. You need privacy.

You need solitude. So you could think everybody needs that. You need baLance in your life. If you don't, you just go. You lean in one direction you want.

It's like, it's like your body, you only work out your body steps to fuck in your hips. S are going to go sometimes going to go wrong. You should have fuck your body up with imbaLance.

You going to fuck your life up with him. BaLance, everything needs some sort of baLance, and everybody's baLance is different. For a guy like you who goes hard, you probably should get the fuck at miami, probably be living in boca, all the quiet people .

you I love at IT. If I need to go to my an hour.

fuck how hard is that I love lord a this is fucked in in crazy as place and if crazy s place filled with reptiles here and they a .

little were walking around on your dock and so many .

thanks like china I want is falling out of trees when he gets cold out.

What it's just .

such a fucked up place, but it's so fun. There's so many good things. And during the pandemic, I think people started really appreciate florida like so many people move down there like you can just because live here, you don't have to just be into the tyrannical control of .

the government. Look, the northeast was a great place to as as a Young guy, to build strength and the changing in the season. Scraping the ice of fucking when and just learning about being a man. We're in timberland boots because you're fucking in freezing cold, right? I think I think every Young person should have to like the experience that one hundred percent not just like sunshine.

Now I grew up in boston yeah and um you know it's called this fuck in the winter when when I was a kid, we made money by travellers now and you know that back break and fuck and work, traveling long steep driveways and shit for a hundred bucks but if you could do that and do that all the time, like you build resolve, you're out there freezing your hands or num you know we play outside in the snow. You're fucking and hands are going now you will come in. You can fill your feet.

makes you stronger.

IT makes you stronger. You scrape in the ice off your windshield before .

you go to work for the walk. I feel bad for people that don't grow .

up in those environments because I really think that gives you a little extra age.

And those changes seas. Yeah, different feelings, different moods.

All my favorite comedians for the most mile. That's not true. I was going to say that.

But then kinison, he was from taxi. Yeah, but that was different. That do. Was that a different?

I think about back to school and think this goes right there. Was he right? I was there.

That is also, yeah, he was awesome. I went appreciation for film. I appreciation for comedians like I like, really like, I grew up like to.

I was buying, like, Richard prior albums as a kid ety Murphy albums. And I spent a lot times I became good friends with my apps. So, okay, a lot of comedians, comedians are torture souls. You guys like, I think a lot of, like that whole comittee tragedy thing is like .

very serious .

is for many for yeah .

there's something to that but it's you just kind of figure out how to baLance IT like we're talking about before for me, uh, I baLance IT out with exercise, exercise and saunas and cold plunges and yoga and shit like that. That's how I bounced out that I keep my mind straight. But if I didn't, I would be spiralling just like all them. I think you, you, you need something in your life that's more difficult than your life, something that you do, that you choose to do that's more difficult than regular life because that that makes regular life way more manageable.

Well, it's kind of cool. I'm fifty and i'm like inspired red, like what I was in my early twenty years and just like doing the music and it's like sometimes I get reminded of like the fact you know, like when you try and keep up, like there's a session like and you're going to have to go meet little baby at three in .

the morning and you, okay, fuck.

I just do IT I just have to completed. I couldn't just went for days back in the day without drugs. Like then I was like, i'm going to a sleep real late because i'm going to have to go at three o'clock in the morning.

So is that like a standard thing? Like like when rappers come and they want to work with you, they generally want to work late at night. Rappers.

I want to work. And my biggest problem is, I know I can always tell that, like sometimes you should just send them see these a ship. But I know when you get in a room and you make some shit right there on the spot for somebody and you feel in their energy that's when the best record happen. Yes, these deals like a lot of tools, not like wild, but there some are.

That's an extra magic, right?

Yeah, I think the best artist want that. The ones that aren't really artist, they just want some bullshit to rap on some more bullshit IT.

But there's something you're changing something as human beings, right? You with that person, you experiencing them, they're experiencing you, the music, the song, everything together, the lyrics. There's that's a human experience.

That's why like I refuse to do zoom podcasts like some people in other countries, they wanted to be on a screen and just sit in a liver room. You ve got to fly here, bro. You got.

you got to be in the room. I'll give you a perfect example I got ta call a week ago a face time um and IT was jaw seen on my phone and like I was chilling and like I was like shit jao and the neighbors and do he says he says he .

says your storch I figured .

out a way that I can harness that storch thc you're in floria i'm flying there so I am going home from this tomorrow he's going to be there next day we're going to be working at a hit factory but he gets IT like we were just listened .

to neighbors in the agendas night we're all going a mother fucker so i'm excited.

I'm excited when somebody wants to get in the room and they have yeah idea like what they feel like out of the custom bag tricks like they want to like harness and coping well.

you're also a guy that like you find out you're work and when Scott storch that day, everybody gets fired up that is like a feet because you have so much success that this is like excitement about you and you're in the room and that creates like additional like inspiration.

I could buy all all clips because if somebody he's gonna in a room when i'm that there and they're like, this is the one Scott store did, that should have Better. If I like the artist, don't like whatever, how is they have to be like you that be this look at flames. Like, so I give my older shit.

And some reason then, like I said, like I just, this is one, a few things I can just do over and over again. I do a good. I give results. Nothing always sounds the same if somehow I managed to pull that off and it's like, I remember the doctor tray, tell me you because he's work ethic is crazy he says you don't have to be on every day just most days and it's stuck with me and I like a and like, you know, you got ta be going to be in the guy at home runs almost every time, not every time, but almost every time.

When you deal with something that involves creativity, you can't be every day is not possible. You're asking too much of the news. Yeah but that's also the problem with like being in a working holic. You're going on hard all the time. You you're constantly work and you're gonna have your houses and you're gonna have your misses and that's just a part of the process.

I go hard with everything that I be a good thing thing yeah, like most people do. I got like, no, the same energy I give to that to the music and said that I was given to like the wrong things for a while.

Good friend of mine, we were talking about body of us that died. He died from pills and he was super clean. He was a professional pool player, like a really like world class pool player, super clean, never did anything, never drank, never smoke GTA cards and fucked back up.

Start getting on pills and pain pills to him. He chased pain pills the way he chased, being the best world at pool. The same thing that got him to be a wizard of playing pool at the same obsession.

That same obsession got wrapped up in the pills, and he died. He died Young. And we were talking about him like, that is what IT is.

That's that's where obsession in addiction cross past, one can serve you, one can ruin you. And they are the same energy is just how you channel the fire. You can channel the fire to wood and cook your food, or you can channel to your house.

And now your fuck like, where do you put the fire? How do you? How do you direct IT? And if you direct IT the right way, you can have an amazing life and do all kinds of cool shit and have a great time, meet cool people and have a fun life. Or you do the wrong way and just be on skid row yeah covered in skin.

It's hard to baLance sometimes things that are take over your soul like fills and you later on talk to about I into like but this is the business of we have not for money. I got into the business. We have to help people.

But but that later um honestly, like I got my whole life was just all music, music, music. I love music. I love going in my fuck in car and just listening to the things I love IT.

Music, I love music of the seventies, and I love marva gay. I like, always fucked. I love more credible music when in fires.

And this, that I just, that's where IT all comes from. So I based my music on the past fifty years of music, hundred years of music, and I was doing good. I smoked pounds of, we made my music the very healthy life and became very rich.

And I was in a bubble for so long that what day, living in a house that of ana truck, recently just bought my house on an indian crew guyland. Okay, was I owned, ought I like button fuck house for cash from the widow of the founder of southern wine and spirits? And I book this house fucking massive topia y gardens.

And incredible thing, I was living healthy life, and I wasn't in my mind like cool, but I was like, happy. I was cool that was as cool that gets because I was baLanced and healthy and doing what I love to do. But I felt like I was yearning for some something Better, what I was yeah for.

But this girl ended up showing up at my door. Step, a very famous girl, and look on that play in the game, blame game or anything. But it's just a course of events happen.

Paris Hilton shows up at my door initially to work on the music, and we ended up connecting. And I learned this whole new way of life, like with pop rates of being like next to her and in, excuse me, inevitably hook IT up with her. We're now an item and shit where, you know, kind of like we having tons of fun.

We're good friends, but I think we're both used in each other in a certain way. Like where i'm like like so excited to be next to this girl who's like the cool is most famous girl in the world. She's like my girl and like she's next a few her passion at that time music.

And he was like next to me, who i'm the number one music producer in the world time and IT went on and then inevitably the nightlife LED to fuck in coke. And no, no, no first year you're to have going here on planes and central page sank boards and the fliers sheet you could do and flies, the best fucking coat old is having a blast, and then IT just goes bad. And then IT just like that.

You have relations you seen in the movie below. And yeah, you seen how hot would be cruise, yes. And do were like in the beginning into each other then just of course like there's .

no happy ending your .

foundation is routed out under yeah I like my aist life was like I was born there and like I was now like in that situation and then it's kim corda and all these different things. And like SHE wasn't even famous at that point, but like, you know, she's cool and she's always been a great .

person and like I gained a lot of respect for her, which he started .

working for criminal in prison reform.

the heart advocacy for people that are wrongly ly accused yeah and she's done a lot of good thing. She's that lady's got a lot of people out .

of jail yeah I I look, as long as I know him, she's never been anything but just a super sweet per I met her before the fame, like i'd dated before the fame. And you know, I just I was a hot mess like I was the fuck up when when we were together. Like I just was not focused.

I was just thinking about strippers and drugs and this and that, and was just, I was still on a high level, but I was living a fucked up life. I had a session. Now I, I moved to palm island from indian creep because everything I was doing, I was trying to impress paris.

And like, I knew that everybody wanted be on star island and palm island, and I was close to the party. South beach was south. Beth didn't know that where I was living already was the big daddy. Like those houses, you have to be everybody's there. Like basis, everybody's there. Now, like where I was to this house of palm, and I go from a ninety foot yard to a much bigger, I take these little, just try and impress her just below her mind, even that but I was trap doing IT. Yeah, was all some weird mental like thing.

Like I felt lot of people spare.

they are money. I didn't want to be famous. I want to to be the most famous.

I, to be biggest boss, not just a boss. I had to be that guide. And when I lost, everything is like bad news. And I I have Janet Jackson at my house into .

a session prior .

post nippit super bls. But I rever the sweet, cool lady. When I met Janet, I was told, and not even like, really like talk to her, like more like like talk to like somebody and like, you know, was like, that was like a like I was like, pass your message and tell this person they're going to like really like, even in the same a point within a few hours .

you're collaborating music just .

for the first few like minutes. This happened and then like, we became like homes like I was like immediate like I was like.

fuck that well, sometimes it's the hours the and i've been people, they give themselves extra important by like saying, if you want to talk to her, you have to talk to me yeah like, yes.

you know, like creating a goal .

for himself and creating like a little bit of insecurity on your part to like, don't address miss Jackson, right? Addressed yeah, I address this. That's probably he might not even know about.

We were by the end of the day, I was like, I smoking my, I was smoking my weeds. He was like, I was killing her about the different kinds I had and these these new york plastic jars and this and that, like, just cool is hell. But flash forward.

And now she's come into to pm. My land to work. I left at my house for like seven or eight hours because I wanted to go to the gold rush and go get some blow and hung out with strippers.

I was just like, are you fucking serious? Like you're really gonna that. Like you don't see at the time because you is just so much too of things when you have so much money and you .

have power and fame so you have too much possibility yeah there's too many things that can entice you and if you're doing blow and going trip club all the time is just like more tidy in my face, please let's keep doing IT. Let's keep party and let's .

stay selfish and and you're not thinking about because what he saying, good films, your brains going to mush.

It's baLance. It's true. It's imbaLance. It's like what we're talking about. So you need to baLance .

the a is parties turn to b as parties. The b is turns to a less sealers turns to fuck in street urchins. I remember I ve had some fuck in funny moments though, like I remember having in a party.

I was like a super pool party. I like seven hundred, eight hundred people at my house and I like everybody's like fizzling out. It's not like nine and the morning, ten and morning. I think snows was there. My gaps was there.

Different people were hanging out, lingering pilin like family even now that was like friends and should and like there's a knocked on my door like ten I am and it's panel Anderson and that shit was the funniest in my house. Living with me at that time was one of my favourite people and I knew he was upstairs like sleeping whatever. My good friend dmx got the soul and um pay was showing up and I like your ex.

You x check this out I kicked out and like so thinking is so funny that I got pam coming to my house ten in the morning and he comes over the um the rAiling of my house and he's like looks over he like they watch and they just walk back away, walk back the fuck thing O X was x was living with me, man and like IT was like the blind leading the blind. I'm a coke addict. He was a crack addict and i'm like trying to help them.

I'm like, you really need to get clean, man. Like what the fuck is really? Yeah so i'm like, go you need to go to rehab.

I'm like, so I I get him convinced like to avoid like A A jail sending for something that charge you have, whatever he went to rehab, and like, get this ship together, the place that I had gone, that he didn't really work for me, but I had him there. I really did care about him. I wanted him off that shit, like whatever that was like a worst evil or a faster suicide.

And I was even on, and he ran out in the place, got a call from him, but the place was directly across the street from a hard rock in hollywood, florida. And he's like, calls me that he was up, like, how are you calling me? You don't have phone privileges that he's like.

I'm across the street from the we have at the hard rock with one of the nurses and like I like like you fucked getting as like your egg. Cover yourself up. Come back to my house.

I'm going to talk, these people get you back in. They wouldn't let them back in. IT was a real top mother fucker on this place, and he ended up because he was quarter water and he had to go away.

I'm at the montreal one morning a couple of days later, and my security like you will go go there's fifty federal agents here like crazy shit well, I was like, I can't believe I feel horrible. They let you flash forward to a so long ago I was heavily involved in a rehab center in um california studios city where we use cannabis for healing. And IT came to my attention that he was on his last legs ex was in bad shape.

So um I was able to make a meeting happen in my partner Steve la bell, you know Steve label is managed bone dogs and how all these people, like real legend, we were partners on this place and h we had x come in. He had infoseek. He was one rock away from death, like, you know, kind of thing.

Ah so we convinced to them we put him on a private plane to washington to do a detox. He went, he went to the whole detox and plan was to leave the detox and come to our facility impatient and to rehab. He never made IT back on the plane to head back and we never saw him again. And like I was me trying to save man as, like really loved man, and like such a special guy, but like such a .

special performer, there's of the greatest ever.

Do IT h .

without a doubt, without a doubt, the power the dark I had in his voice. IT was amazing. But while people make wild .

shit and times, yeah. You can control, can calculate.

Yeah, I mean, go on back. Kindly mean to did him and mean he died to car accident, but he was fall apart because he was all cocaine, cocaine and drinking and the wildest of the wiles. I'll get caught up in that life because it's you, you escape .

yourself. It's esi.

yeah the difference to join yourself escape .

but grow like to calm down like after like because after a while like that like getting fucked. Going to sleep doesn't work. It's like it's like now you want to go for two days, three days the way you feel at the end of that run of it's not good, not good.

no good what you're closing in on death. That's the real .

you do you people don't .

like to think that. But if you're up for two days, you're about four days away from death. Yeah you keep that up for four days.

You're onna die. You'll stroke out. You have a heart attack. Some will go wrong.

You have some go yeah when your your you'll get emphasis or you get in the monia, you'll get something horrible because your mind systems destroyed yeah but it's like wild people make wild shit. And do you get A D M. X without drugs?

And it's like you call the sex drugs and rocket.

If you get those people, I don't know if you get hundreds without acid, I don't know if you get IT, I don't know. If you get IT, I don't know.

If you get IT without everyone, I don't know maybe i'm so lucky because now I finally realized, and like, understand, like all the things you're saying about you can just die and I gud get IT now. And i'm i'm not doing that in leg. I lived IT though, and I got to experience, but the music is still further. And like i'm still doing, I think because a lot .

of those memories and how you made IT through a made IT through you, you made IT through your alive, you're healthy, you're lucky, your blessed luck, lucky shit, and insists, like, that's the dance man, the dance is, how much wild do you look in your life and if you don't learn any in, might be boring as fuck your art.

I made all .

my favorite artists are a little off the rails, and I always have been for my favorite writers to my favorite musicians. I mean, so many of my favorite musicians died. Young hendrix, try one of my all time favorites. But like, that's a great example. You know, jim Morrison and James job, all these people died Young man 科 cobain died Young because they went too fuck and hard to while two wild at the gate, amy winehouse.

two while deal with stuff that like it's not like you could just be an organized triana. Some people just have a less of an addictive personality. But like you.

the shit just takes over. Yes, that takes over. And again, if you live in that hao, if you live in that wild life, it's like there's no one telling you to stop.

There's no one telling you slow down. You have all the money in the world like, what? what? Who the fucker? you? Why you tell me to slow down? Fuck out here.

I just did .

the star spangled banner with my teeth. Could the fuck stage here? Cm, do that? See hundreds to the start?

Is teeth that mother fucker? I'm told i'm what the only guys who could play like music and .

smoke weed the same time I don't know how .

they play music and saying at the same time I I met this guy post alone for his business team like him and jay london, this kind Austin rosing, Austin rosen, fuck and awesome do like he owns electric fuel entertainment post all these guys, new bel, they're all part of like some of the most talented and like just one of the cool of things going on, the music of these guys. So I wanted to make a life story, like bio pic.

I was going to do something, one idea I was going to. And then he was like, Austin says, do I want you to go meet this guy? Charles oven? He owns at less at her tailor.

How of you for me with atlas? But they made IT like one of the biggest movie producers in the history of movies he did like super squad, that whole series, that dark night open hymir, like some of the crazy as movies. The list just goes on.

I'm like, oh, shit, this guy makes block bus. Make my movie. Like, I listen, go meet dom, see what happens.

I meet the guy and I go in his office. I'm like, so nerves. He says me, I don't like you very much, especially from what I read. But if I like you by the end is meeting, I think we'll make a movie.

What does that mean? I don't like you very much.

especially for what to read know it's some fucked up shit like, you know like, yeah a lot of all shit IT is to make me look a certain way, but mean, mean, he ended up really seeing out to eye. And I was able to articulate, while of these things happened. And there was one interview I missed because I wasn't even told about IT, and apparently I was really scheduled three times, and then I was told about IT.

And I unfortunate, had to schedule IT guy wrote the most horrible story about me. He was the cover of a magazine and IT was me covered with blood all over my face and just making me just look like fucking and hitler and IT couldn't be any further from the truth. Like I yeah, I made big mistakes, but I did IT with the nicest person giving, I will give the shirt off of my bag. Any person that were stopped me in the streets that I get a picture going to ask him how they are. Day was like you don't say like i'm that guy and very thorough and very consistent well .

that doesn't sell yeah what sells is you're the worst piece of shit of all oh my god, let me read about this piece of shit. So that's that's a horrible thing that journals do for money ah they make these pieces where they completely distorted a person's essence, and they only do IT for money. They are just like emotional hit.

People was not talk about everything. I left my footprint in the fucking and world, but anyway.

yeah right. Let's just talk about negative things and only from a very distorted perspective of life is nuances and about and it's weird, life is fucking and crazy and sometimes people make mistakes, but it's not their whole being. And to try to like condense a person down to like tab blog headlines, like that's the essence of the person that's crazy.

That's like the least compassionate, the least kind way of looking at human beings. That's not our human beings are we're complicated. That's why those little hit pieces that grows and they don't really work because people know that.

They know that apart this, probably lot more of this. Like, why is this? Why is this so negative? Like.

this is not a baLance of an artist.

Yeah, every artist is complex.

I've never met one that is, well, a very, very raw and real look at my life is happening now with at this entertained. We're making a movie, major movie.

who's going to play you.

It's got to be several me, because my span of my career starts ultimately am a kid, a kid.

Maybe they, you, C, G, I turn you. And in a kid, you can play so they can do.

I didn't want to be involved in production, writing or acting, or I think I needed to be respected and real, right? Like it's not going to make me look like the greatest test guy. It's not going to make me look like a bad guy. It's just going to make me look like who I was. You know.

do you have any say in like one of things that drives me an nuts is when there's a movie and no one there and you see like this historical figure says some things and you like, well, how do I he didn't really say that some fork right to wrote that shit. This is not a real .

conversation last time during amazing talented guy and um yeah everything is gonna be cool if I have my way, I have an eighteen year old son who's literally me who I make all of my music with this kid jAiling, he's my son and he's like one of my best friends.

I was like when ice cube .

son played him and this kid looks just like me. And at the time I was his age just like me. Perfect to a point where it's not even Normal. So I can't think of anybody Better but forget to that. I'm not saying he's going to, but I would I would love for that to be and I think anybody could see this is capable yeah and and he is me he's like, you feel me like my mouth everything like different .

fucking things like yeah but but it's weird when someone's alive and someone's playing, that person who is alive and org wear like a movie about you. Remember when Michael ji, I played mike tyson, you know and mike tyson was, I mean, they were friends, they were cool with each other. But like, that had to be weird. You're planning to, dude, who is still alive?

Mike tyson is a special guy.

is a very special.

is a very good friend of mine.

I'm glad I got to that fight, didn't get hurt. Yes, that's what I I was hoping and you would not check power out just because that's the sidereal story. Not I don't have anything against jack paul.

I like jack paul. I think what he's doing is genius. I think what he's doing is like, I mean, this got he's making insane amount money.

He's having a great fucking in time. He's a legit boxer. He's .

absolutely legit .

boyah. You can't .

hate on somebody that works that really driven. There's like something like this. Not everybody starts .

somewhere. You are you know who care with IT? But but the reality is, mike is fifty eight years old, and I was worried, know, just, I love that guy and he was a hit, wrote my, I was a kid. So to see him fifty eight years of fighting.

part of me was like, fuck a, we were there for each other. Like, a lot of ways I talked to him like, pretty deep conversations would like an, he actually checks on me and like, you good like, and I do the same that's and my friend rick, like, we're all like, kind of a beautiful person.

He really is man for a guy was the most terrifying fighter of all time. He's a really nice guy to be around.

I felt I was the fuck the movie. Hang over what time? Like I was hanging out with him in vegas. I remember we're cruised around in my fucking and bentley saying at the time and he's like, let's go jam out. We went to the palms, from my hotel to the palms. And we rented the studio there, just like a play piano or jam, and out then my old records of IT, that's what just cruise IT around big as I was like that.

like hang that's.

And vegas is a great .

example of a place we have to have baLanced. Ah it's like living in my amy to me. You live in vagus.

You should ably live in henders son, you right there. Yeah, exactly. Live close to the mountains out there.

Don't be right. Dw attacked him from the outside. That's what I did in L.

A. When I lived in la. I lived like an hour outside L.

A. I never lived. I did when I first moved there. And then I slowly started moving .

further for I am not. I used be, it's sleep when I open. Yeah, I saw my house. I got really for place in the valley of just home invasions everywhere.

It's crazy. It's like what theyve done to that city in a short miring amount of time is shocking. I never thought we go that about that fast. And it's the way IT is now is bizarre.

I always say that it's like a girl.

Yesterday, SHE was really cute, but now he does math and SHE works with the car tail.

What happens when you .

just remember her from when he has so sweet and cool? Yeah, well, the pendell c was the the reason why the government was able to fuck up that city it's the pandemic was just that was their way to fuck up .

the city stacks bricks yeah on the street ah the tax a breaks .

that somebody left there hoping someone will .

throw through windows start riots .

like I don't it's bookie I don't like to go full batman on this. But it's like that like there's evil villains out there that are pull in the strings of the world and that's a real those fun protesters organized and people spend a lot of money to organize those things, then put bricks out. The whole thing was designed to disrupt ety.

And then the death on the police bullshit. How anybody bought into that is so crazy. Reform the police yeah. Train the police Better yeah. But deep funding.

Are you? Fuck yeah.

Are you had your fucking in mind? Do you not know the love, the jungle? Do you not .

know the real streets? You, I have had .

so many friends that completely flipped to one eighty after they got robbed, one eighty. They are trump supporters. Now it's crazy people that were like, full on liberals.

And then, you know, get a gun point there in their face and also like, oh, this is what we signed up for. This is you just letting these people out. You rest.

These people let them out and then they just do again and they got to rest like what the fuck the assistant to, uh, the the D. A in new york just got attacked, just got by some guy who had been saving finest. He got robed by some guy who had been arrested some insane amount of times since twenty twenty three.

I was looking at the story online is like, this is so crazy that this person just keeps kid in the alan keeps us robbing people and they just rob. The assistance to the da alvin brand is suspected ganging member accused of exposing himself. Robbing manhattan is exposing themselves.

We pull this dick out any exposing themselves as funny because they have export, go to the headline, exposing themselves as first, the robbing part, that second, but he showed him his penis. That is unbelievable, unbelievable. What is .

about IT like it's coming. A branded .

moser confronted thirty eight year old victim in the hallway of her building, and west forty four three on two A M dirty, say he grabbed the victim's per cell phone, a bank card, before exposing himself. He pulled his dick out after rob ter. He robbed her first.

But they put IT exposing himself like the the most horrible thing that he did. Police were able to track the phone, eventually arrest in your hotel and west, forty, fifty, fifty eight thousand thousand on tuesday. Lead authority ties to be the suspect is a migrant possession of drugs about now they know who the guy has.

Jammy, they caught the guy he's been. See if you could fight a more updated version of IT because he was, he was arrested a ton of times since twenty twenty three. Exposing themselves makes more sense.

Now, that is a lady. I T was a jammy, oh, okay, right there is been arrested six times in the last five months for similar crimes, six times when you think after five times ago. Hey.

maybe this guys are real problem.

Maybe we need to put image a, maybe a real criminal. No, keep them out there. Jeez, crossed. That's the world we're living in in now and that's L A. And that's new york and that's a lot of places .

that got fucked up by incoming people.

Know.

I just feel safer knowing, like, I feel safer knowing that trump is in office. I do do I like, feel great about IT? Like I just like .

when I don't feel safer right now, they're launching missiles into russia. How do you how are you allowed to do that when you're on the way out, like the people don't want to be there anymore? This should be like some sort of like a pause for like significant actions that could potentially start or or three, maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from A A dying former president is the whole thing .

is not I A I look, I don't know about .

pola says putin is terrified. Fuck you, man. Fuck you people, you fuck in. People are about to start war. War three.

Yeah, crazy. Brush a fired a muscle today. yeah.

They fired an interconnected tal ballistic missile for the first time ever, the first time I ever been used.

Suncor .

insanity, because those interventional ballistic missiles can have news on him. This woman didn't. But if IT does, the whole world changes, and IT changes because the military industrial complex and IT changes because the money it's going to ukraine, and IT changes because the outgoing president, or whoever the fuck is actually run in the countries decided to do something, decided to do something fucking insane, fucking insane.

And we're all sit and they are watching IT and people cheering IT on. CNN was saying, like, finally, see what what their headline was about zelenski using, about biden giving zelenski the ability to use long range missile. Us, made long.

And so, like, nobody knows where they came from. So like, nobody knows we've been funding. This is a proxy war.

The whole thing is fucking insane. It's insane. Come to the negotiation table.

Sit down. Worked this out. Stopped killing everybody. Us allows ukraine use longer missiles. So what did they say? Someone had said that like CNN was saying that that was a good thing, which I think is how how is the left gone so far crazy that they think it's a good thing to launch missiles?

That's what scary .

about life is like you don't want to pay attention to that shit. You just want to live your life. You want to just be carefree and have fun and do the thing they are passionate about. And meanwhile, the world is burning.

And just he just at that high level, it's like is nothing .

well we can we vote at trump in and ah his ideas to stop all this shit and hopefully he can do that but you know, man, fuck it's .

you like none of the problems between the ukraine and russia would have been exacerbated as far as they went. Had trump ed in in office, I like I I genuinely believed that he has a way of keeping the piece in a certain way.

And like, well, soon as he got elected, the taliban said this form a truth, you know, how must say ceasefire? Everybody who's saying these things like right away, china was saying we'd like to do business with america. Russia was saying that like, let's fucking calm everybody down.

Stop being so fucking and tribal is so crazy that you think that everything the left is doing is right because you're on the left. This is insanity. And for anybody that's a left wing progressive person to think that somehow other missile are a good thing, got damn, got dammit.

You people got your fuck. It's .

never the, this is craziness, especially with russia. Cdm, that's sure. That keeps .

me up at nightman. I know when .

I get paranoid late night when everyone's sleep, that's the thing that gets me a world war, the war, because this happened before, and that the world has been at peace before. And then all the sudden chaos, and they think that that could never happen again. You're wrong.

It's happening right now. It's just not happening here and we don't feel IT here. So we don't doesn't affect our thinking process and we support things that could lead to IT happening here and we don't even realize .

we're doing IT what we're doing IT as a human being like wonder you think that keeping yourself and the rest of the part of population of the worlds safe .

is priority prior and peace and way. Everybody wants peace. Everybody wants their children to be happy.

Everybody wants to be welfare and healthy. Everybody wants that just figure out way to fuck and bounce IT all out. Jesus crist.

well, we get sixty more days till .

trump cuts or whatever is how many days, jammy? But who knows, maybe once he gets in the rapid up, who knows, maybe the sabotages administration that was even more scary. People don't want to in power, and the people that are in power don't want to leave power. And they try every way they can to keep IT sixty days from today, right on the .

sixty .

days of your fingers crossed. Now just hope putin understands what's going on as well and so as he doesn't do anything stupid but saying that putin's terrified god dammit.

it's like you're trying to like tug tale of the fuck .

and sleeping drag rag yeah also silan sky, can I get a drug test? Could you just get one drug test for? Send any more money? What do you do? You doing a lot.

Blow over there. This is like, blow. Like, behave.

I'm not responsible for him I but you know.

i'm saying this is like cocaine, like baby .

puts a pus terrible jack .

got we got him and we like, what are you talking about? He has nuclear missiles, you fuck and monkeys. Jesus Christ.

my chest right now.

jesus is the struck. yeah. Putin should not have invaded ukraine. Yes, one hundred percent. But don't start war. War three like this got to be a way to settle this. There must be.

I got to put some of this into my music, like these feelings, like even the conversations were having.

One of my best, my favorite anti war song is war bush. Bill, well, he told me, wrote .

that.

And forty minutes. I like getting boys.

I love getting boys. Three .

tellers .

like, yes, oh, my god. Scarface, yeah.

Street blues, yeah, no, I .

love.

yeah. Had a great flow. Yeah, yeah. Kj, rap was awesome. Hip hop different .

these .

days is are good someone, something is a devout religious man. Now really see if that's true. I was wondering how that that is a guy that I felt like didn't get his do like on the world stage that people don't respect him for as good as he really was because I I would tell like some Young guys about ku j rap, they don't even know who he is.

And I played music in the the Green room. You ever hear the brand new heavy, like the James ban, when they they linked up with a bunch of wrappers, the heavy rain experience. Have you ever heard that out? Koji raps, death threat is the best track on that. I played that shade in the Green room of the mothership, and I was like.

what is this man say?

Some said yes, he says some shit. And it's with the brand new heavy playing the music fucking tremendous mendous. They did a great thing with gang star too. They have A A great song with ganging star two, that's on that. Yeah.

I love you. That's where I entered into my passion and love for hip hop. Is that error? Yeah, saying that earlier.

that's one of my favorite errors. You know, romantic god.

that's like one almost like the large .

peppers and rap, oh my god, how old he when he made .

that really Young long? Yes.

how about rewind? Yeah, rewind is one of the most genius rap songs of all time. Tells the story backwards?

yes. And it's .

genius and it's it's fun and it's the flows grade. I think IT noises, my all time favorite lerius like nose. And then everybody else is like, I love them all but like to meet naz is a special lyricist like his lyrics st like he's got so many old moments when you listen to me all oh not even .

just punch lines, it's like just a whole subject matter chooses .

we were listening to get down last night oh my god god damn that's good.

A word choice is to me like one really like the great of that same things in a different amount of syllabuses or yes, that you wouldn't expect that just what your creative shit yeah I love jd s and style. I think jade kisses, like in my my top top. D, M, X.

my workout music is wooden clan. Oh yeah, that's my work out music. Gravel pit when you hit the bag because you know and whenever we do shows, we have like a ritual like when we're drive into arena, especially if we're getting police escort, which is the crazy shit of all time, you're going to do a show and you ve got a police escort and we always listen to protect your neck.

We're going to play IT like, okay, and we go, let's go protecting net, let's go. We're on our way to the arena. Then won't we get in the door on your buggy? Man, casey, in the sunshine .

band play. Man.

yeah. Like, just get everything go and like.

let's go. Kc, you mention this name? I have to do IT. I see him at the hit factory in miami one time. I was like, well, for kc, kc, in the sunshine and we meet like, I saw your mtv crips and i'm just going to tell you, I spend more on my flowers and my orchids then you probably do on your cars every month just like, what? What a .

weird flag. What a weird flags. It's like, okay, okay, cool.

you. That doesn't even make any sense. You're get robbed OK. You get robed. Your flourish is a piece of shape.

Everybody has got their own thing.

I know you get robbed if you spent and dad much money on your flowers, you are getting fuck and right is.

But of course he was making a point.

But that's crazy flags. It's also weird way to introduce yourself to somebody.

Yeah, I just make them.

But in that one of those things where you like, you used to be on top and you want to show, but you still on top, just like you were talking about, like wearing the diamond in the jewelry, go up to the guy is hot right now and say, yeah, I saw mtv craves.

Guess my lowers.

Yeah, I spent more money on.

So i've seen some crazy shit in my life. So i've had some crazy fucking moments for a fucking a poor boy to came from nothing and rose to like a place where it's like i've seen life every side of like i've seen life as a poor boy, seen life as making IT made IT blew IT this that I seem like i'm never sitting in saint boris. I have been invited on the boat of pretty successful, very wealthy russian people that I knew, I know and sit near.

Children do my Normal, like just hanging thing. And I see A A battleship pull up the actual, like, fuck in army or navy, whatever. Fuck, pull up near us.

Somebody gets off a tender, gets on the boat, our mind. And was canada son, wow. yeah. Like this is surreal.

And so .

yeah I I like, I two thousand eight .

okay yeah so I still yeah .

he was telling me how his country is becoming much more like open mind IT and isn't that? And I had a keyboard. I was like, jin out plane and shit, i'm just such a fluke and weird.

W, I was like, playing and how on agua? Just like, weird body. But I seen some shit then I seen fucking in crazy is it's .

great american story. That's a great of american story. You know, like comment from nothing. Chasing your dream, making your dream, fucking up your life flaw in the way, but still love. Tell the story .

you see if I can B, M, F out of the club all the time and like, be in the club. And like these guys over there, they just sent you twenty bodies of Crystal le. You're like, okay, who are they? This the fuck in? This is the guys.

Oh my god. Okay, call. Thank you. Guys like, like a call.

Shit every time. See you weird. I never had any drama.

I never had any like crazy situations happen because I think in the terms of like, I was providing opportunity for a lot of local people, like, try and like make IT, like rappers from the streets. Like, so people are just always call with me. And like, I was respectful to everybody around me.

Did you ever have a communication with that guy called you the White devil?

No.

that was IT was IT .

never talked to him. And I know I to do. I don't like make my own world and like I love me and be around those people.

And that's a terrible way to think it's such a terrible way to think someone just because they call their skin, even though they they work with you and you're cool together that you could .

just out that person that the other side is endow over like of course, getting of time. It's like, okay, so what whatever. But I just hurt my feelings because he was my fan. But I thought, and like, I guess, like I just felt like I just felt fucked up and I was like, you know, if anybody knows me, they know that like, i'm not that devil. Like, i'm the guy that this is loving, like free spirit, like open minded, like non racist.

right? But that doesn't sell headlines body White devil s headline es the way del gets people .

feel and Better. And started working in trace camp. And I felt so much love and respect. And like I was, I was made to feel like what I was bring into the table. And I crew was like, they were like identifying this and they were like, praise of me and make them me feel great.

Would you know the expression game recognizes game? Yeah, right? yeah. That's what IT is, who people see you when they hear you and they know they see, like all this guy is a wizard. What's going on? OK, you're staying here for a long time.

Gotten I were a lot of people down, man, when I got heavy into drugs, like like the doctor says at the world is like you're trying and and arrows like, fuck bro like at some point yeah got to like, put me on the time .

out you know yeah well, that's very good for you too yeah when you disappoint people that you respect and care for but that's like that's a real emotional rock bottom, you know and that sometimes people need that to course correct. If everything is going and great, you have no reason to stop doing blow and party on all night whoever things is perfect. And you know there's a lot of people that will enable you to keep that life going because .

they're feed off of you.

There's that. But there's also people that like all they want to do is a keep you happy because they make a living off for you and .

so they don't want to rock boat so they don't care destroying ourself. The truth is there's two different modes. There's the guy that can make music and smoke is weed and fuck, eat pizza. And this is like a Normal guy. And when I flipped to that other thing, if the cocaine is not a drug you can really make, I feel like good music on may seem good. What you're making IT bbi listen to the next day, because any the emotions to a world win of emotions that you feel when you're in that world, like you really feel like happiness, sadness, this, that other, like all these things, always in ten minutes you can have always emotions and it's no good. So how you going to a stay on something that you want to make people feel a certain way.

right? So that, I mean, i've never done coke, but everybody that I know does coke so you can perform on IT if fox you up, you don't feel right.

you know no because you're feeling twenty different emotions inside a minute and it's like you can only think about one thing we are IT is that that's IT. So yeah there's no .

real good not recommended .

for anybody and .

anybody like great coke story? No, maybe one night. But most coke stories lead to my life fell part.

no. Happy ending. No, no.

happy. no. This not like coke. Advocates know. There's a lot of marijuana. Advocates tell you, marijuana change my life. Marijuana made me more compassionate.

This mean, marijuana made me a kind of person, more sensitive, you know, more in the community, more and a love. Nobody says, no, cocaine fixed my life. My life is kind of a mess.

And I started doing blow then, man, and all just came together. You know, I realized that's what I need. I was a little, I think i'm a little imbaLance. I just need cocaine every day.

I, where would be so perplexed? Ed, I don't like. So one people on to the bus, I won, say who he is, but one of the most massive people in the world of technology, like in the world of.

These Younger computer guys that became extremely famous, like start, people that started to facebook and this all type shit, like one of those guys I can say who, but like when I was fucking so huge, I went to visit him with some friends of mine. I've sitting at the table, waking IT up and jans telling me that he's just had a heart attack couple of eyes before. And then we started talking about how cocaine, one of the most poorly publicity rugs in the world, I was like, what the fuck in my, to me, even being under the influence, was like, this is frightening. This was one of those guys, like, one of the big, big, like, change the world people.

So he was you. He just had heart to act.

Cocaine is awesome.

Any super smart?

Yes.

which is even scary because .

you can convince .

yourself .

whole world. But I had many situations where, no people, so selfishly, even knowing a recovering, a recovering, whatever you want to call IT one of, like, have the opportunity, do something obvious. I always wanted to do a bump with you, but no, can't do that once.

Last time we did one. Should I mean, I fall within the past six months? You know, I got good people around me. Now that's good. And like the shame with the guilt and everything just prevents you from from enjoying that making, even thinking about doing like.

that's good, that's good. A man, six months is great. Six days is great.

The the whole thing is just you going fall. And if you all get up, get up, it's okay. You're human being.

Human beings fuck up. They make mistakes, especially when you deal with something like addiction. And most people think that can never be me. That could never be i'm not like that yeah I could .

definitely be you thing definitely gure IT. And like it's usually pussy you know i'm saying like you're like is like you have no intention whatsoever ver of of doing something and and also so right there in front of you .

there's a fucking and as naked girl and .

there's a pile of this and there you had like i've done that before and .

I could just do IT this one time yes be OK yeah will .

be OK yeah yeah much to be in the movie with my my single with like my own what seems like going .

a good place that's great. That's awesome. That's awesome. Well, it's A I think it's so important for people like you to tell your story wrong and edited like you do, because I think people want to see a person has been very successful, and they want to have this rosy view of what their life was like.

People love to that build you up, but they love tearing you down like IT becomes like a and then for me, like in my business, is such a desperate business. If people know ARM of sound, mind and like at the top of my game and making some fuck and fire as music, that's a threat for certain people, of course.

So they'll block IT like and they'll perpetuate the rumors and do whatever fuck to make sure that I don't get behind there like a goal for the artist. So many huge artists like they don't want me to get with them because they know it's going to happen. I'm going to make Better shit.

People don't like when someone's talented, and they don't like when someone is successful because everybody compares themselves to other people. That's the real the real problem is comparison is the thief of joy. That was Thomas jeffson, a thorough, as most men live, live lives of quiet desperation.

But comparison is the thief of joy. Is that a real thing, man? And if you're a person, it's looking at someone else is success. And somehow another wanting to diminish that.

You're doing that to yourself when you realize that or not, you are wasting your own precious life energy on hating on a person and that will take away your gift. It'll take away your creativity. It'll take away your ability to be present because they are fools. That's why they do in the first way.

Job security.

It's it's a foolish venture. And even if IT works, even if IT works, you're doing yourself into because you know you're a piece of shit, you know that you've done that to a person, you know you've distorted who that person is for just because you want to feel Better about your own life. You want someone to falter so that you don't feel when you're comparing yourself to them, you don't feel inadequate.

And that's that's the reason it's just petty. Ss, it's just human weakness and it's one of its gross st forms. It's not called out enough, you know. It's it's really it's a disgusting behavior pattern is bad for humanity.

I genuinely feel joy and excitement and happiness from friends or colleagues that have success. Yeah you sure anything inspiring? I just see so many others that just don't like look at IT like .

that sells. But it's but that's a good thing. And you could say that that selfish, in a way, because when you help people and when you inspire by other people's success, and when you enjoy other people success, you are experiencing a positive thing. And that positive thing is one of the most important aspects of life.

Like to deny yourself that because you can control your emotions and you can control your jealousy and your feelings and to like hate on someone, you're denying yourself an opportunity to feel good and you could genuinely feel happy for everyone is success and still be successful. IT doesn't take what success at all. It's just a mental trap, and people need to understand that trap because IT is in security. But it's also an lack of understanding of how your mind works, how the human mind can play little tricks on you and lay traps for you, how jealousy can rear its ugly head.

And to your views, we fall into certain ways.

yes, like we fall into .

certain ways when I was in the fuck in the limelight and now i'm like in like team Hilton and i'm hanging out with certain people i'm hanging out with like some fucking like spoiled bread lucky sperm globe as fucked into generate and like basically competing with who could be the most of noxious and the crew leg. You don't see that happening until, like, I looked back at videos and things of me, I was like, do what I jump.

I was like doing that. I was like, slowly, truly like turning into that yeah just to be like, no, just that's the ship that fucked up. Like you just after like really always maintain we really are and like not get lost in that shit and like there for others to try and be did did what we talking .

about this in the pocket here? There was at a Green room conversation. Someone said, the .

first personalities .

are as infectious as diseases.

Someone was saying that.

like energy, like people's energy, is as of infectious as diseases. And when you're around someone that has a great personality and very positive, you get infected by that positive. And and when you're around shit heads like fucking and doma asses, just think IT a stupid fucking in what you start thinking that way, it's contagious. There's something .

to IT got to be careful about company we keep.

Oh my god.

this world is so polluted.

The most important thing, it's the most important thing is your community, right? Your family, your friends, your community, the people that associate with. And if you're associating with shit heads, you're gna have a fucked up experience.

The less people I come in contact for me is the Better. Like, I like being home. I like nice restaurants, like being home. I don't really like going out and fucked in because all that energy rubs off on you. And yeah, people's calm.

whatever fuck IT is. Yeah, anxiety, everything. Although the weirdness of people comparing with each other who's got the Better watch, who's wearing the nice or shoes, like what fuck are we do? It's stupid. That's good. Your smart, your wiser.

Yeah, takes time to figure these things out. Like, but but Better late than never.

Yeah but but you still have the art. You still have the desire for the art, that through the whole thought.

that passion that we spoke up earlier for a while and now it's back like a mother foker beautiful. Yeah, i'm in there like.

that's the american success story. And when you rather that then at the type height of your fame with the party in the drugs and the fucking chaos and fall apart, it's Better to just like embrace the art. That's where it's .

like to get real. I don't want to fuck with IT like i'm like not gonna like chase checks to work on music like i'm gonna work on what's great. And that I do, if I can do, is what you staying your lane.

And yeah, you know, is there any way to play the single? I got comment, then I have IT, but I will show you this girls to twenty one. Is there a picture that you you know picture is like like I have a .

single of the song, I can do .

something. But the girls like organic, like SHE, doesn't need auto tune. She's not like because she's real.

So is just .

an example .

as a child .

yeah a stare texture I mean, I don't see this every day and like artist is usually like some.

I will be clean. In this room, try IT all the long. He's A. Writer, too.

That I may feel. Something just because you the week. so.

IT was away. Go back to that place.

Away on my own, my good day, they go back to that play.

Sometimes long go to feel right away. Me, if you.

Left at your fun. I got the last one.

This girl, amazing what .

that should see, the conviction if you get a song writer of big, fancy song writer to work with some, grow and like teacher had have a motion. It's not the same that .

he is amy, White house vibes. Yeah, White house vibes and that .

song in this .

fact that is both organs. No, not different. Not like she's company anyone, but like that vibe of authenticity yeah.

So twenty one and motion is there that comes from and SHE she's like.

incredible is not something like that could put up jailed spotty fied players right? I'm going to put that on the Green room players right now on .

my own yeah that be the first let me like i'm show casing her that's my this is my single it's scot stories featured abbes there but um SHE were you know on part of the making of her physical, her album, which is already has a bunch of stuff that SHE made on her own that he made and then stuff i've did with her and twelve, seventeen records me and my partner Kevin. Yeah that.

Voice is amazing .

and I got some great records. I got records with a as celebrities like that. No, it's not exciting to play.

Like for me a record with somebody who has already sold millions and millions of records. Like for my project, I want to break. I made a habit in my career of breaking artists. And like i've, like, I did Chris Browns for a song and I told him sitting in the studio, I was make you hit record today.

IT was like fifteen and sixteen and I did that we made run at that day i've done about, you know, when I came back into the business, after my lake dark period of just not doing anything and except doing drugs was last than eight, nine years. I met Stephen bell and Steve. Not only we were partners on the rehab center, but he was helping me IT back into the music day.

And I was like, you get me a meeting with J. Z. Get me beyonce.

Give me all the people I made this for. I fuck, no, they're not going to work. Work with you right now. Show them what you're do, and I give you the best blue print.

Some people like to jump the gun. Yeah.

he's like this artist. This art is this art, is this artist art. These are all new words. You don't know who they are, but if you make them fire, every boys can look at you like you're fuck and get the highland trophic again say, yeah, one by one.

Every single one of those artists that he put me with there were nobodies at this point are all huge right now. Trippy read a buggy um roddy rich russ who's one of my favorites like I love us and with me with his music he's just like he's got something to says like he's the man like you got like fuck with russ. He's a really serious artist today i've seen this guy without radio. He has a fan base, a cold fan base because what he does is so real without radio or any shit, he's selling out arenas by himself.

That's amazing.

Yeah, it's amazing.

He just i'd love that, that happening today. Yes, they kind of taking the day keeper. The gatekeeper is out of that equation now. Yeah, awesome. Has to do is be good and get IT online.

He released two hundred songs a one year, just like sound cloud of.

wow. Two hundred songs in a year. Yeah, holy see.

You just started that consistency. Yes, people became an acquired taste. And then so you .

just you love watching people make IT yeah I .

like being responsible for that. It's more of a chAllenge that just want to make track a hit. You know, I really want to work with trade, but I bet road black with drink. I know drake loves me and my production, but for whatever reason I haven't been able able to get I want to get .

a whole a drag to talk about its fight. Pix, ah that mother fuck er loses more money on fight. I wanted come up before it's over. K, O, it's over.

I need to get a record off with him. I want to get a record off with him.

Wasn't john O, S, six hundred and one favorite?

I mean, he had by K, O.

just one. But that's what I said. I would not thought, john, what I mean, that's not easy.

but I want to get a record of what we want to. I had a very uncomfortable meeting modified to this day.

uncomfortable because of the cocaine. No, what happened?

I SHE was in a VIP in new york years and years ago. And do everything I do, and they like, obviously know who I am. So they didn't from me. They let me up into her take. This was a Green house. And back in the day, and I introduced ed myself and whatever, and I gave a hug, and I fuckyou, got hooked on to her hoop bearing and almost fuck herself .

that walk out .

room A I remember to get so yeah.

haunts me. You really woke .

up with that hearing.

You want to make a good impression and you get her ear ripped off. Yeah, yeah.

Whatever life is full surprises.

yeah. So is like your favorite your favorite things seems to be breaking new people then is IT because you get to show the world new talent is IT does not remind you of you when you are getting your brakes.

your helping scope, what somebody's sound is GTA be with backbone what where they started like like creating up to new. And I think that's to me, like my sound has always been to not have a sound and like, you know, have like different, like genetic strains of music. I got them like you like different things that I brought to the table that nobody else was doing.

I don't went. If people start doing is so much you're honored copying you and then you move on the next thing. But like with artist, you get to like concoct some kind of new way of them.

I did, bion's says first solo album, we made the sound, and we did three smashes. I did three straight smashes out of three sons. I did, when was baby boy, naughty girl? And meet myself. And I, and at that point I had just moved from L. A.

And like, I have been working with drain for so many years, and I look looking at jay, and like, jay has his empire, and I need to like, go off and like, create my empire, not competing, but doing something different with your music and not using that sound that he and I created and scope together, which was, like the new wave of west coast music. I moved back to florida, to miami, where I hadn't been in ions, because I went from florida as a kid into, I live their task fifteen. I moved to to filly my dad.

And then for filly L A, now going from back and to go start my own little world. And now rich OK and I go home to florida. I'm rich and i'm waiting to what to make my own little sound.

That shit creates some shit. Beyonce was one of the first contestants, and we fuck and solidify that shit made history with that album. Like, remember, SHE did the grammy and he thanked god, and then he thanked me first.

Like, and I was like, I have IT up and I was like, one of biggest honors in the world. Like, and like, we made history and that was like that's like that's the ultimate thing that I want to continue to do was like I wanted do that with ib. I feel like once I get driven like that, there's nothing to start me prove my point.

That's beautiful. Scott's been great talking. Y men are really .

appreciate, appreciate.

Come down here.

Been a few hours later.

You get good stories, get good story, and you have a good story. Your stories, good story. And like I said, I think it's it's a great story for people, people.

That's why people like biography know, people like to find out, like, I was IT easy for you. Why I struggling. Like, what is this struggle like is the same for everybody. When you're struggling yourself, you think you're alone. And when you have a dream and you don't know if it's gonna come true, you go with everybody like this.

You know, great comes easy. Nothing, nothing.

Thank you for having my pleasure, brother. Pleasure to meet you, pleasure to hang. which?

Which very much sure.