#2225 - Dave Smith
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The joe rogan experience.

And I could, even after we got off the phone last night, I was like, i'm going to go to bed, I go to get a and I just had to watch close like .

three .

thirty thirty .

something like, yeah, I was a city in front youtube watching professional pool on TV gone what the fuck is going on? So turns out voting works. It's real as much as we voting thought they had a rigged, as much as we thought there was changing and bullshit.

And it's just A A popeil. And there's no way anybody could book this system. Turns out voting is still real.

at least partially.

at least of its too big dig. And clearly he was too big drag. Yeah.

was in IT was crazy because I was like four weeks, especially in the close of the campaign, was one of those things where IT felt like IT IT almost felt like, uh, two thousand and eight when obama, who was running against machine and IT, was just so obvious obama was running away with this. Everything you could see an his crowd sizes, the enthusiasm, the culture was all behind him.

But at that time, the polls were reflecting what you saw everywhere. Obama's up big. He's about to juma cains not going to win after eight years of George w. bush.

The country doesn't want another war hawk, this articulate Young peace guy, right? And I was like that with trump words like all the signs are that he's clearly running away with this but then every single pole told, you know, this is the closest election of your lifetime and then I was just there was a very interesting feeling to see IT and be like, oh, okay, i'm not crazy. I was observing all the things I was observing.

Do you know what what trump told me about the polls?

No, what he said.

they don't do anything. You give the money to come back to have these results.

You don't know, hundred years. He's right now. He's right.

And the media gas let us to the the absolute limits of their ability, the absolute limits joy read spent the entire time he was discussing trumpet that, comparing him to musi, stalin, hitler, talking about a rightwing authoritarian, an regime as if he had never been president for four years and didn't behave like any of those things. Yeah, as if the economy wasn't booming, as if people weren't making more money, as if we weren't involved in any new conflicts overseas, no new wars. I mean.

I I could point to a lot of things trump did in this for years that I think we're bad, but they were things that were similar to obama .

and wasn't different. He could point to them to, you know, when I talk to him about what I was like to actually govern for the first time ever, it's a daunting task. He's told me about the thousands and thousands of appointments to make, thousands of people he had to pick.

He didn't know who any these people were. He had to trust people that he knew, and he didn't know who was telling them the truth and who was just trying to get the system moving along in the exact same direction. And he got bogged down with a lot of that. He had took forever for them to weed IT out, which is the great thing about being president is the harness jump in the planet. And you started without any knowledge of IT well.

that yeah and I mean a little bit of that on ham because there were some people who he probably shouted known what I didn't like in his answer about that to you is that then he kind of pivoted to talking about how john bolton was actually really good to have there because he terrifying and he's crazy. All this guy wants war with everyone. But the problem is that, like, that's not how IT went down, john bottom room in the north korea deal.

It's not like IT IT was successful and the north korea's were so scared of john bolton that they wanted to talk to Donald trump. They were at the meeting, they were willing to talk to Donald trump. And then john bolton came in and they were like the these guys are psychopaths. I don't make a deal with .

them and so .

alone and I will say, look, I was I was rooting for trump last night as much as anybody .

in this country.

Okay, second, second, most second to tony.

say a more porter weekend voted for trump and ever, ever buy up twenty six percent.

Well, but wasn't IT and wasn't that just one of the IT? Was what there's obviously a huge series of these things where the the democrat establishment and the corporate media but I repeat myself, that is death by a thousand. Self inflicted, yes, but IT is almost as if it's like their whole thing realized on lies.

It's just all lies. And they are just they are have their eyes shut and their fingers and their ears and they're going, no, no, no, no, no, no. I just pretending reality is the thing we .

want you to be.

They don't want to get slowed down by this this force that is objective reality and so all of IT you know whether it's joy and sharp as attack ah comalong Harris, joy Donald drum p is hitler tony in Cliff was a man at an event who made some comments he wasn't really that wasn't a he was really everybody instant .

the it's not two thousand and twenty .

four like we didn't all grow up on down rickles and we all know exactly what tony hinchCliffe doing.

Did you see the clip that the mothership posted? It's on my instagram so they're talking about the the comedian knew made jokes about what we go while tony on stage on the other screen. So tony is on stage at the mothership while these guys talking about what tony did on C A N. And they grow and over like the porter he population, how he voted.

IT just pulled IT up because it's full crazy.

We are watching. And mesa was back there with the whole Green rose packed. We were having the best talking time. There should have been a camera on the Green room last night. We've been the greatest reality show of all time, bright since that tony hint and a son, everybody's crack at jokes.

I'll do that so great. that's.

I just said after that were in a simulation .

for sure .

yeah I it's on the video I wear in a simulation. It's hundred .

percent well, it's just like IT is just unbelievable man like the the false reality that they were trying to present while while you're watching what's actually going on yeah and seeing that it's like but there was just an enormous shift like culturally from said even two thousand sixteen to now. And I did I thought one of the big indicators to me, I was talking about this, a bunch of my show over the last couple weeks or since the garden, whatever that was a week and have and do the were no protesters that that to me was .

so while .

you but i'm saying, like if this was happening in two thousand and sixteen, if in two thousand and sixteen trump came to manhattan to give a speech, there would have bit like thousands of protesters.

I was there actually two thousand sixteen when that did happen. I was there the day that he won. I was there for the u.

fc. So the next day were walking down the street in manhattan, people are chanting, this guy was saying, Donald trump. K, K, K.

Anti black and anti gay. Not terrible, which is, Terry is the biggest cock error. Like the super.

The guy was a super cuck. He was one of those guys. We just like you, I wanted to FM around like, you're amazing, your gift. Keep talking just me living .

like after black.

I still walking starts chanting, black life matter saw the black is black guys, black lives matter. Black lives matter. I like, this is amazing.

I stop right behind him, me and camping. And I think tony was there too. And we were just that. This is crazy. This is crazy.

But they don't seem to have that in the same way. It's all pock troops on't IT.

It's of all back. They didn't know what he was to do and what he did economically. Chmagh has the best way of explaining IT. He said he was the right message, was the wrong messenger. But if you look at the actual actions and where they are good for the economy, where they are good for the united states, they were.

But it's Donald trump as the messenger was so polarizing, the people lost what's really going on just based on who this guy is who has like just like tony henstridge pt and sold comic don't try entire career is you are fired. You're a loser rosio Donald, a loser like that, his whole stick, and you expect him to course correct once you get in the office. No, it's not.

That's not who is you elected that guy? But along with that, now you get R, F, K, junior, you get tosi garden, you get elon musk, you get j Evans, you get brilliant people who aren't ideologically captured, two of them who used to be democrats, one of them that probably knows more about environmental polluting and about the problems with pharmaceutical rug companies and health, and the consequences of all sorts of pesticides and urb cide ingredients in your food that should be banned on our ban in all the country. You got that guy in there now, and we got a real chance to make real change.

This is like one of the first time ever where there's a real chance to make real, tangible change that's going to be for the good of everybody. He's got a unite ite people. He's got to not attack the left, not attack her, but let them all talk their shit. But unite. Now it's time to unite everybody .

one hundred percent. And then there there's even more guys, I mean the vagrom a David sax, I mean, he's got some really smart guide, very, very successful who are really the fix, really just excEllent and totally brilliant. And so right about so many of the major issues, yes.

And and look, I mean Donald trump now he has a real Mandate, which is like this. This is kind of what's crazy. This isn't two thousand sixteen, where know he lost by several million votes in the popular vote, but one the counties that were important in just by the skin of his teeth got in. This is like he's, i've been the last I looked, he was up by over five million in the popular.

in the popular vote. And what was that when when I went to bed, IT was three twelve year. He had three hundred and twelve electoral college votes.

Yeah would still I think a you states uh arizon I think hasn't you know finish yet and so IT might IT might even rack up higher than that. But the man date is like very specific. It's like the basic policies of like, okay, immigration control can have just have an open border with no control of who comes into our country, a desire to get out of stupid foreign war, you know and and and obviously improve the economy, yes, deal with inflation, things like that. But he's got a mate to do that right now, and he's got all some great people around him.

My bit list, I was routine form as hard does anyone except tony and Cliff last night? But but I will say now, I think now till january twenty eneus, the real the pressure should be on on trump to do Better on the appointments than he did last time. He's got a lot of Better people around him than he ever had in two thousand and sixteen or two thousand twenty.

But he was float out my pompeo as the secretary of defense. And he did have mick pompano speak at his final campaign event. And to be clear, mike pompano is this chinese pick for defense secretary.

It's Hillary clinton picked for the, uh, defense secretary and so much of this will be lost. If he puts that guy in there, he he needs to keep all of the linsey grounds and the mike palm pay OS and all of these guys away from his administration. Bring, bring in the non intervention is, man, no one wants to fight these stupid wars anymore. And that's what you ran on and want on.

I want lazy gram to start a podcast .

that be found when .

we got to get those minerals. There are some expensive minerals over there in ukraine. Tit was, do an impression of yesterday.

I was amazing. IT was amazing. I do. I don't even like.

maybe I shouldn't know he deserves that. But did you ever see the thing when he was running for president?

He talking amazing, two thousand and sixty. I remember you.

I think trump gave his phone number out something that he was. You don't remember that he was like. He was like attacking Donald trump for probably not being an awful war hawk or something like that. And dual trumpy said something about how he he call him and asked for money you when he was running for company that he just cape his phone number. He made he made a senator, changes phone number .

like a chill .

son and .

move was a asked .

about being the first of president.

Yeah.

never marry. And he, he, he, there might be a bunch of different first ladies if I was .

somebody first all that the last thing you say, if you are man, is your hero sexual? You say, i'm trying to find a good woman. Yes, i'm trying to define one good woman that I can grow with, and then I love with all my heart just one good woman.

I know that she's out there. Yes, yeah, that might be a bunch. First is I will get divorce.

Married the force, married a minerals in the ukraine gave us manner the russians. What just around what women's panties on should. And hi, i'm the phase of IT. I mean, the first lady too.

I'm to wear her clothes.

Typically wouldn't go after .

someone for that. But when you're a war, a war hawk, all yeah all is fair. But he's just he's got to keep people away from a man and that really was his failure in in his first time was and and look, I do understand him saying, I don't know he was an outsider.

He didn't never been had never lived in washington dc. He didn't know all these people, but he had a lot of time. This is eight years later and he's got a great core people around him and those are the people to take advice from.

Its like mr. President, if you're listening right, talk to round paul around paul will tell you who to put in those positions. Talk to Thomas mass.

I just say he floated at Thomas macy for I can't remember what a position IT was. That's great. Put those guys in there. These are the amErica first guys.

okay? And it's not my pomp. Palo, it's not the war machine, dude, and it's and also his rhetoric. C was so great on ukraine through through the election and when he had the courage to just say, like, no, I I want the dying to stop that was one of the best moments of the entire campaign. But his rhetoric on israel been very bad.

And the the other thing that you can't get around is that, like, listen, you can love israeli all you want to, and you can you can pledge to help defend them or whatever. But now OK, but but that yahoo is john mccain. That's who he is. I mean, he's mike pompeo. He's loves chaining or nick hai.

He's the guy who came over and testified in two thousand and two before congressional hearing and advocated that we overthrows S A dm, who saying and also advocated that we go at a regime change warn around, he still wants to this day he advocated we had the regime change in in libya, in syria. I mean, he's john mccain. That's not amErica first.

That's not, you know what I mean, that's not this. We're not fighting stupid wars anymore. So love israel all you want to, but we're not with b yahoo. That's something else. That's the opposite of amErica first.

Yeah, a lot can get done here, man. I thinks, I think he can listen to those people. He has four amazing people around them, you know that really have experience, especially telsey conversion for eight years.

Rk junior knows IT inside, IT out. You've got vans who's brilliant. You've got the vague who's brilliant. You've got four incredible people with them. yeah. And then he, I think he can get through this in a different way that he did in .

two thousand sixteen. I think he's the there's real possibilities for IT, and I think that that's a huge component of IT, the team that he's got around him. And I would also put I would put talker carlson, yes, in that camp two because I think he is very influential on his thinking. I think in many ways he is kind .

of just think dims made nuclear .

bombs and look fifty fifty shot. He's right about that. I'm not saying he's but when he comes to policy, i'm saying he's very spot on on the no me wrong no meet a little .

of with die and attacked you yeah but I did .

see that and I wasn't sure I when I was watching and I was like, is this like a halloween thing?

Why you laughing? That is so rude. He's a victim of demon.

That sounds like a fun. I don't know what happened. That's the thing. Demis never really getcha this scary like ghost. They never steal.

Yes, true.

Needed to aliens. They bring you back. There was bring back, they borrow A A little bit.

They freak out, do you think? Like demons are bombed about that? Like, like, did you kill anyone today? Like, we can only really scratch .

people talk ker things. Aliens are demons. yeah. No, aliens are Angels and demons. He thinks he is like, this idea that they come from my space is stupid. He said that he thinks you've been here all along, just like the git scientist that entertain this.

Yeah, I not convinced of that, but I do think he's really I think he's great on war and immigration.

He's brave.

But I I do think another huge component of why trust got such an opportunity right now is because like you just you see IT where like I think the protesters aren't they are anymore. There's a whole lot of really interesting reasons, I think, for why that is.

But also and I I was getting in an argument um on twitter the other day with Michael Tracy, who I do like and respect very much um but I was basically saying that I think this is gonna a death blow for the corporate media if Donald trump wins again and this is almost the best thing about him waiting again and he was saying, which is a reasonable argument but I disagree with them but he was saying, well, no, dave. I mean, look, last time he was in for four years that was the best thing that ever happened to see in ana M. N.

B. C. And they got a big ratings boost when he was in. But I don't think that's gonna work. Again.

going work you. Well.

the thing is that so much of that ratings boost was completely driven by the rush gate nonsense. And what they were telling you at the time was that they had the bigger scandal in the history of the united states of america. Like you can't overstate how big that story I they were telling you are right, if if IT wasn't all completely made up, but they're reporting that a foreign hostile foreign power has overturned our election and the sitting president of the united states of amErica is in on IT he is involved in a conspiracy y with a hostile foreign government like that's the bigger scandal in the history of amErica and they for anybody who wasn't aware at the time of how fake and evil the entire system is there, like, well, look, they got a special prosecutor on the president. I mean, there there must be something there.

And hey, I just heard the the chair of the house intelligence committee tell me he's seen the evidence and that this is he's guilty of this and you have the former CIA director, john brand, in saying that trump and his family are going to be a hold off in handcuff s on television once muller's investigation concludes. And so for the regular person, especially for the regular person who really hated Donald trump, IT was pretty easy to get sucked into that. But after that was exposed for being a giant fake. And then the big one is covered. I just don't think they can work.

Place here. No repercussions. Yeah, you want to talk about this information. We have to sensor social media because of misinformation. You guys spread the misinformation to the biggest news organza, the biggest news audience in the world. And you did IT for three years.

Yeah.

he did IT for three years. And then when I turned out that IT wasn't true.

you'd never apologized. I didn't just turn out IT wasn't true, but turned out IT was actually funded well, right? It's started as opposition research yeah and then the intelligence agencies jumped on that and decided, knowing that IT was all bullshit, decided to use IT to frame the sitting president of the united states of amErica of treason. And and living of a few episodes back once, have we heard we went real deep into this but that claim is this is just the fact they lied on the five of the via court uh application to spy on carder who has a low level advisor for Donald trump, just an excuse to spy on trumps campaign.

They lied to the size are they they omitted the fact that the CIA had already told him that Carter page was in a spy and that he was working with them and that he was one of their good guys as the FBI went to the CIA and they were like, we have information that says that the russian is approached Carter page and the cii said, yeah, we know. He came and told us immediately because he's working with us. And then what they put on the fires application is they said we believe that the russians approached him and the CIA confirmed that was true. Wo so that which is technically true.

it's a little fact that he went straight exactly.

So that was, by the way, the only guy who actually got charged was the first the FBI guy who submitted that application. But so well, that's that's ah but look, when you said there were no ramifications, right? You're right in the sense of like legally or are people getting fired? A yes, but i'm this is the ramification.

The ramification is that they're not going to be able to pull IT off again. And the ramification is that, look, they they did everything they could to tell you this was a nac, this was the end of democracy. Yeah, but he incited an insurrection and the american people said, we already get that your follow shit.

they cried wolf you .

too many times.

way too many times, way too many times. The joy read stuff was working for trump. He was working for trump when she's calling him a right, when dictator comparing him to muslin ian stalin, and then when opper said that if trump wins, you may never be able to vote again.

that is the crazy .

thing when you go back and watch him on her show where he was encouraged him to be president. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw.

I saw him then I saw when you played IT, uh.

fairly recently.

yeah. What changed that? What changed? He became who wasn't just funding a lot of politicians in being like a famous guy. And he became a guy who was calling all of the mouth and threatens ing to drain the swamp. Yeah, that really was his con, is that he threat the dc power .

establishment. But it's crazy how many rich and famous people stepped in line to help them take him out the like so many famous, influential people. And I give a pass to cardy B.

I gave a do you know say, yeah, I don't think Amber rose knows what trumps real policies. You know, i'm saying I give a past to some celebrities that come out. But then when you have some of them that are making videos, all the adventure get together today, you're trying to get me to hate superhero movies.

You trying to show me your real fuck and weird personalities and get me to hate superhero movies. Why you do in that? If I was run in the avenger ability? K, guys cut the shit. Do you think one fucked in person is gna vote for come Harris because they saw the iron man wants them to vote for combines. Are you fuck in crazy?

I look like, I mean, did they think that one porter reagans vote was going to be flipped because of a joke that tony made?

By the way, porter ricans are known for being great insult .

comments .

like lose gomes, great insults, the fucking in fredi prince june, or was a great company, the poor, which was a history of great comedy. They could talk shit. Porter, if you grew up in new york at all.

you know porter is a one of the best shit talkers i've ever met. Also garbage in .

a like alias, and i'm a talian italian, is to put the weekends have a lot in common, that we talk a lot of shit to each other so we don't get insulted that much by jokes. It's not the same thing like it's very hard to insult in italian and have its stick. Yes, IT doesn't work.

You can call a good to a good to income a Grace ball. No one cares. Go back to your country. No one's been there .

and fucked in generations. It's also, my wife is italian and all my in laws whole family is italian. And IT is like when you have a dinner, it's just everyone yells like everything's yell. I literally her my brother in law who I love is great. I super smart. But he will if he's agreeing with you in a conversation and you were like in the next room, you would be like, they have a fighting brother and all like what's going on no, he's just agreeing with what i'm saying, but he's screaming at at met, you know but IT is a thing or it's very, very thick skin.

They are not like frag. People favor the best boxers of all time going to put away, go, it's one fock and island and you get feel extinct. You get go MaaS with RAID to go home as you get incredible fighters came out this one place you have a fucked and tough population.

Man, yeah, it's not that. I mean, i'm sure there was a few people were pissed off at that joke, but the reality is this one of things that helps, tony, is that joke is based about tony's concern for the environment. Tony is obsessed with recycling.

He's like our recycling bulls shit. Know, all goes about landfill. You put, i'm going to put IT in the blue bin and all goes, no, enfin.

So tony was obsessed with a pacific garbage patch and then got a obsessed with porter reo because they don't have any room. So their landfills, you're just overflowing with garbage. They literally have a giant garbage problem. So he came up with a joke based around that, think it's called plant.

And I I was texting with him um after IT and I I thought I was so great I mean, I thought even he the bit that he did on israel palestine was so funny he he a ripped both sides and then he did by the same with the porter.

Real thing there wasn't underlying really good point to IT, which is always like the best comedy when you're just being funny but at the same time you're like, oh, and he did can't nail that too where he was just like lie are we funding wars that have been going on forever? Like figure out guys and then just got a great rip on most great rip on jews. And on in the morning there's .

no biting act no one knows is going to become IT up. And there's no one on before him other than prayer. They do a prayer there, there singing prayers and songs. And then the music stops, and tony goes on flat to a push people in the middle of the day. Well, the lights are on bright IT makes no sense that the worst set up of all time for time.

I remember in real time when I was watching IT like being like, I was like, well, I mean, tony is not going to be able to do tony in this set up so like I wonder what he he's going to do and then like as IT start like is going to tony.

that's that should have never done IT but the fact that he did IT whatever it's like, listen, man, there's gonna some people that try to capitalize on that. And there was a big thing like aoc really mobilized, which is funny because i'm almost certain that A O C. S.

Been to see kill tony. really? Yes, almost certain, almost certain. I don't think so here. But somewhere saw kill tony.

I wonder .

who come up.

All right, let's get to the bottom of .

we have a tony hits live.

Yeah, hey, dude, you live. You live on the air right now with dave smith. I need to answer a question.

I need a question answer. Did ae ever come to see? Q tony SHE .

says that SHE did, but were almost positive, that SHE didn't. I never matter in any other shows in L. A. I mean, he could have concealed ly have bought a ticket to medicine square garden, but he never posted about IT.

Well, you probably wouldn't post about. It's too sketchy. Your shows sketchy. But so how do you know that he says that he was .

there SHE tweet that she's been to a taping when all that stuff went down? SHE said that she's disappointed in me. She's been to a taping. I can't remember the exact tweet right now, but IT was the day day of the medicine regard and trumping SHE posted. I'm really disappointed in tony hinch. Cliff, i'm a fan of kill tony an been to a typing something like that I don't want to miss quote her like SHE would certainly do to me.

She's been there .

and he was surprised. That makes no sense. Yeah, no nothing. These people, fuck and say, make any sense, or of their god, dead mines. And now their voices are quiet than god.

Tony, americans back. Baby america.

black go.

Let fucking go. I gotto go. Brother, love you.

Rock and roll. but. Nobody who's ever been tony would be disappointed.

I did matter that political tool could have a ranch. Here's a ball I need is a arrange. That's what IT was like.

So aoc was sending, telling people sent out on your group chats, let people know it's not. They're not, but you can not. The most sensitive people.

They're like resilient people. They're going. People are going to get upset about a joke, but you're also gonna stand IT just a fucking and joke. And then when they know, then if someone does tell them how what you really does have a giant garbage problem that gets a giant problem over flowing and you see IT, yeah.

it's crazy.

Look at the images. You like, oh my god, you got ta do something about this. You can cover your island in garbage. This is not.

Yeah, look, it's just like I was saying before the man I just I do like I feel like if you zoom out, like if you look at IT closely, you would be like like you said with the right oh yeah.

yeah been she's been the shows yeah, wow. Before people try to act like this, some PC overly sensitive nonsense, which is what IT is i've been to kill tony shows on from the bronx. I don't give a shit about cw tumor.

Then what are you doing? Your support for trump as a joke? owit. You're doing a set to support them. That's a choice. Listen, you guys have a real problem with someone disagree ging with you and you you want to, in any way, shape or form that's possible, turn that person to a demand.

You never want to have someone who has an opposing perspective that should be considered or maybe countered with Better information, which is what we are all supposed to be doing. I ideally, with people of good character and who go into arguments with good faith, you should be able to respectfully disagree and have conversations with things. This is like everybody who thinks one way is bad, everybody who thinks this way is good.

We'll do whatever we can to destroy the people that are that way. Obama, there was a guy. There was a guy that drop rally that said the port regles garbage.

Those are human beings. Was that guy maybe telling a joke? Yeah, tell a good jokes or age, you know. So what do we do?

Come on, come back. Like, what do we do? We all grew up, unlike in the amErica of Howard stern, in the simpsons and all this stuff. It's not like jokes are foreign to any of us.

We offer god about super bad. Yeah, we forget about tropic thunder. Who do we forget .

how things work, right? You to enter point is so stupid. I mean, what she's like hate. You're a trump supporter. Own IT is yeah, he's speaking at a trump event at dian square gari think just the fact that he's there are clearly already says i'm support this guy and then he's a comedian so he's like, i'm going to do what I do here with that, you know and if if you if oc wanted to come out and say something like SHE go IT isn't i'm actually fan of tony. I really like the show kill tony.

I don't think he goes.

I don't think it's appropriate at a political event give an insult comic that be a reasonable thing to say.

So but that's .

kind that's on the paigning that's campaign. That's tony. I mean and like so but that's not what you saying. And again, it's like, you know look, if you to the point you were making before right about the the russia collusion hoax and knowing get in trouble for IT, if you were to look at, say, the weapons of mass destruction lie that got us into warn iraq, killed a million people, cost trillions of dollars, tens of thousands of our brave is Young men blow in their brains out, you know, just unmitigated disaster and none of the people who who sold that lost their jobs or are, you know, they're not like, I don't know what they should be doing, maybe like picking up garbage by the side of the road, apologizing to every car that passes.

Let's know. Let's pause for a second and compare. There's people that said that there was weapons and destruction they willfully created.

This story is a fake story. One hundred. No one gonna trouble. Trump paid off. Some lady says a factor and made a book cap ing air. So he got hit with thirty four.

Now, if you want to just be that person says he's a convicted felon and just repeated over and over again, understand that now you're changing what the law means because you don't like a guy, and that can be used on you. This is what happens in dictatorships. This what happens when communism takes over a country and you get a military dictatorship.

They just throw the laws at you and they're doing IT right in front of your face and your OK repeating, he's a convicted felon. He's a convicted felon. He's a convicted felon for thirty four mister miners, which are all the same thing, which really felling world felonies.

And we're past the statue of limitation. So how much do you hate freedom? Yeah.

it's not. Listen, none of the trump a, uh, legal chords were an example where, look, the the former president of the united states of amErica clearly broke the law. And we don't want to politicize you the legal system here, but is so obviously broke the lot that we have to prosecute IT was we're coming up with a novel legal theory that we've never prosecuted anyone under before. And if you interpret IT this way, then we could interpret this misdemeanor that's past the statue of limitations as a felony that does this not freak .

out liberals who are obsessed with criminal reform because they're never because that's .

not the side of the issue yeah think that that is one of the .

best things that I do in the shows when I have josh stuben on who used to work with the innocents ject. No does things on his own where they're trying to find people that have been unfairly prosecuted by bad judges and by bad prosecutors and get a lot of fuck in jail.

Can I just say real quick? do. Because if I don't, I want to make sure I say this will work here.

But a president elect Donald trump, due he he came to the libertarian party convention, uh, this year and he promised us and a whole bunch of people, myself included, like supported him for this and he did Carry, I think, the libertarian vote and he promised as he was going to free ross, all break on day one and like if you're listening, the minister president of this gets to you, please, please come through on that promise mound this kid has done over a decade in jail already. He was guilty of creating a website. No, IT was like a dark web type thing. And I guess some people sold drugs on IT and stuff. But he he's .

done ten years, over ten years document. yes. M seems like he was railroad.

Yes, one hundred percent yeah.

Seems like came up with some sort of a phony murder for higher change.

They so they accused them of that, but then they withdrew that charge. He was never convicted of that. He got without parole from making a website and I just i've gotten know his mother then over the years and she's like the sweetest lady and she's just in the middle of this nightmare like her whole life has been a nightmare for the last eleven years or whatever it's been.

And I really just please come through on that one. There is no political capital even to be spent on IT. It's one of the best things he did when he was president last year was at last time was freeing people who were just in jail on bs and way over prosecuted.

And he said he was going to do IT on day one. And i'm just saying we a lot of people supported him for that. I really hope he comes through. That would be amazing.

Well, we're going to know a lot about what he's gona do, whether he comes through or not. That'll tells a lot. If he comes through, I think a lot of people will be able to hear when you love to see him on a pot gas, when you love to talk to him on about yeah and asking questions about what actually happened.

We look now that we know what we know now, like the FBI did this whole internal thing with him, and they they use people in agents to trap them. But now what we know about what they did with the kidnap in case for reaching whitmire, didn't know that before. We didn't know that you could have a kidnapping case with as fourteen people and twelve of them or FBI informant.

So you ve got twelve people working with the FBI two retards, and you convince these doma asses that they should go and kidnapped the fuck and governor and they're like, cause plan. These guys are idiots. They might be planned, fucked in game of dungeons and dragons in the woods.

They're idiots. Well, if there's an old people is an old saying something like the FBI always gets their man because it's always there yeah no, it's like there there's been dozens and dozens of these FBI what they call staying Operations, which are really in treatment since nine eleven where they get, oh, we thwarted another terrorist. No, they didn't thwart the terrors attack.

They planned the terrorist attack and then throw a, yes, I was never onna happen, by the way, a little little of that every single time I was found this fascinating every time the FBI wants to do one of these terrorist and treatment things, which again, they've done dozens and dozens absense, nine, eleven. Every time when they approach, like Young muslim guys were like on radical websites, they are saying like that. Every time they never go out there and they say, hey, how do you feel about amErica being free and prosperous? Or how do you feel about the fact that we don't have surreal law here? Anything they never do, that they always go how to feel about american foreign policy.

Look at all these innocent muslims that were kEllen over there in that part of the world. Doesn't that make you angry? Doesn't that make you want to do something about IT like when the FBI wants to do in treatment, all the sun?

They know what motivates terrorism. They're not like, oh, you hates for our freedom, or the dum shit that they say to the american public. They know exactly how to interact these people. They go how to feel that all these palestinian babies getting killed right now, you know, that's america's money and weapons that are doing IT ah and that's how they get them but it's all you look at the first world trade center, a attack was all just the FBI screwed IT up yeah, they were following at the whole time yeah, then they screwed IT up that they almost hooked down the tower.

And if we got to hear all brook story are going to be wild ly different than the narrative that we heard in the courtroom or IT was in the documentary. A bit. It's wildly different.

I wouldn't be surprised if you got rerouted, just we know too much. Now we know about that case. There's multiple different cases. There's the dallas case where they got that kid to blow up a building they gave from a fake bomb in a cell phone and he activated. They radicalize their kid who just a dumb, low IQ kid know nineteen global and they they talked him into joining.

We're going to do and and then they say they're preventing crime like you're actually making IT, you're making IT and then stopping IT and that's that's fucking and wrong. You're cheating. You're rigging the pinball game, man, fuck.

And we know that now. So IT would be really interesting to his their history. Yeah, ten years is fucking plenty too much, yes.

way too much. You know, you can never give that back to them, but like just let them go free and it's also just such a situation where know obviously like I know his mother, i'm like you know kind of personally invested in that but it's like this kid is no threat is that nobody thinks like, oh, if we let him out, you know, he's some type of violent criminal who might do another violent thing or something like that, like that's just not gonna happen. You could just end the nightmare that this sweet woman is going through. And him.

of course, too. Okay, so we both agree on this. But let me ask you, okay, what about do you thinking is the balls department snowden?

Well, okay. So the thing about snowden, right, is that and now the juan assigned cases kind of been taken off the table, even though I guess technically he could still part in him um but ah that takes a real political capital now I think he should pardon snowden and so but well, i'm just saying that like snow den pissed off a lot of very powerful people.

The nsa are furious about him, the CIA they don't like him and not want to set the president. That you can release the fact that we're doing a unch of illegal shift that we are lying to the american people about, and then you can go tell we are in fact doing the thing that we load. Instead, we weren't doing they don't like that there's going to be powerful forces that all oppose you rosell break doesn't.

It's not like that you if if he .

worked a part of snowden would be a real signal that he is willing to take on the deep state he is willing to take on the real powerful and interests. Now again, i'm not claimed to. It's obviously the right thing to do, morally speaking.

But you got to have a really smart strategy if you're actually going to do this. You I remember one time during the room, paul presidential campaign was in two thousand and twelve. And someone asked him, you know, like a question about, like when you're in there and you're president, are you gonna the CIA?

Like, hey, you you guys are done and you're this and you're this and he went, well, I might say a little bit nice more than that. I like trying to about to C. I, A. But let's speak cool here. Well.

it's just face. Let's look at this for what IT is. So if stop, if he really did expose things that were illegal, that were not supposed to be done, and the fear of bringing him back is the people that did the illegal things want to continue, do illegal things and don't want to have any repercussions for doing illegal things.

That seems like a crazy thing to support, even for them to defend. IT sounds insane. They should want internal accountability. They should want to make sure that no one colors outside the lines. No one does anything without congressional approval, all the stuff you're supposed to do when you do in certain things.

But the problem is now with the the F, D, A, A and fisa and all these different laws that have been passed that allow surveilLance to be done warrantless, like it's kind of a mood point almost at this point, like the things that you would like back then, he exposed that they could listen every calls. They have data centers, but we all know that now, like he's it's everything still functioning. But we all know that now the guy that that exposed all that, leave alone you are, you're doing a legal shit.

And now it's kind of legal. We still should be outraged. But now you can can .

just do IT well. And also one of the things that was so disappointing about trump not pardoning Juliana and snowden in his first term. And and again, a lot of that is because it's like when he told you when why didn't he release the the J, F, K files well because he was listening to liz chinese pic for defense secretary my pao and see people not to do IT.

But it's like at a certain point, you like, okay, first of all, the spying that snowden exposed was web ised against you, right? You like this spite on you. So you kind of I would think you have some like stake in being like, yeah, that should be exposed and should be abolish. But don't you .

think in part them because he wanted a second term and he wanted to like the things you run as smoothly as possibly and to the thing is he also mazing.

they're making deals here, yes, but he also had a lame duck buried. I mean, he had a barrier where he knew he wasn't going to a second, had power.

but he was, what about the peaches? And he wanted, yes, he always wanted to run again. He was gonna n again. He was asked you on.

run again. yes. So a fair point to that. Maybe now Donald trump keys in. And I do think this is what the corporate media and all of them are really terrified about, is that now he get in and he doesn't need to win another election.

I mean, he'd like to win a midterm election and keep the I mean, he's got the senate now will see the house has not been determined yet, but he'd like to keep, you know, congressional control within the republican party. But he doesn't need to worry about a reelection. Now if he really wanted to do that, be the drain the swamp guy.

Yes, he's got an opportunity now where I just A A lot of things have have a wind where it's like, I think he could really get IT done and I think he could get away with that. I think that he's kind of he's taken all their bullets, both literally and metaphorically. You know, he's he's been impeached.

He's been convicted of felonies. He's been shot at. He's like all the things i've already happened. He's been demonized in a way that no public figure has been demonized in any of .

our lifetimes and and sometimes.

yes, he's stronger. He stronger than he's ever been.

What do you think about that thing I sent you today that compares the number of people that voted in twenty twenty versus number of people have voted in twenty twenty four. And in two thousand and sixteen .

sure does look strange.

And in two thousand and twelve, have you seen a jami? Ah, it's crazy. I would say I can send you if you want to see the exact change.

That is a fair point. There are still votes out there. I'd like to take a look at that again after one hundred percent of everybody has reported. But IT does certainly seem weird.

Let's not get technical and let's just enjoy IT is said you is jay because it's so bizarre that I can I can't really believe it's real when that I send a deal earlier today. Honest, I can find IT. It's so crazy.

You look at IT you go there's is this real? I heit is because IT doesn't seem to make sense because this is like one of the most consequential uh, elections ever. I think everybody's pretty aware of that and everybody is very duggin on their side.

The left, he's hitler. The right, he's saving us. And so more people voted. At least at least the indication would be as much people voted in twenty twenty, if not more, probably more people voted. But let's look at the numbers, like look at the difference in how many people voted for biden in twenty twenty. It's unprecedented is way higher than any other time since two thousand twelve, and i'm sure probably before that, there was less people back down, right? So if you go back to when I was a kid, there's only like two hundred million people .

in this country yeah and to be clear, twenty twelve and twenty sixteen .

were low turn out years crazy. They're consistent. Look, they're all like sixty. Look at look at where the number is. It's all like sixty five million that would IT says so that's all the same every fucking time except twenty twenty and twenty twenty .

equals with the fuck up.

Look at IT is like eighty one is eighty two. Is that what IT was eighty. So IT goes up a fucking and sizable chunk and only once. And IT does .

seem like even with getting all the other votes and you're not going to get to.

it's also like, look how many votes trump god, he got even more in twenty twenty that he did in twenty twenty four like what the house that about. Is that because they haven't counted all the votes and when they made this? Or is that the reality of the numbers? Because that doesn't make sense either .

yeah and well and and you know I just say you know how unlike the corporate media world, it's like this is the biggest crime ever to even ask this question. But you kind of can't blame us for asking IT when everything you say .

is a lie the bouts came in the midnight are weird. And the fact that you had mailed ballots, that's weird because the thing about male and baLance is different than anything else is not a chain of custody, right? There's a guy drops IT off, then the postmen gets, who know the does they used to be going? Postal postman used to be scary because .

you should remember, yeah.

if I don't know, how do they fix that? But I did stop. Yeah, there was a time there were the like fuck and separating things by zip codes and like enough, and they were just killing everybody .

in their office. You remember old sign fold a bit on the show. Now he has newman's of post men and is like, why do you guys always like, go crazy and just kill people who is like, because the male never stops. So for me, yeah, that was always my suspicion.

is just like a monday job, it's like, and you've working with these people you don't like and then one day, like, i'm gna fuck and kill everybody. But just a bunch of those guys who IT became, there was a video game called postal. And the video game we just ran around shooting people, yeah, was a crazy game.

I was a Better time.

IT was. But this was like the ninety said, all this was going on and something that happened and they stopped fix. So the byline is.

Who knows what that post guys doing? Like you could just throw some stuff in the garbage if you know you're in a republic and county, throw some stuff in the garbage if somebody if you're you're a cab driver from some other country and you're over in amErica and someone says someone to give you a bag baLance and put in your truck and you going to go take to this place like, okay, you know, like you're going to give me five hundred dollars, okay, i'll drop off these ballots like when you're doing like low level scams and you like small counties where you have corrupt people that are working to voting machines. How many republicans are paying attention? How many democrats are paying attention to the corp.

republicans? There's always been election fraud to pretend that we lie about the very fine people. He said very few people.

OA is lying about the front of the whole world. They lie about everything. You don't think they would cheat.

Well, that's right, exactly. It's if every word that comes out of your mouth is a lie that you can't tell me that i'm not allowed to suspect and also you know if it's like if what Rachel Matthews says is real, right? Like if you're telling me your world view is essentially that adou hitler is running for president and IT looks like it's a coin flip if he's going to win, that's what they were telling us that that was fifty, fifty.

Turns out IT wasn't but eight hillers running. This is the end of democracy. It's on the we'll never have elections again if this guy wins.

So if that's true, then why wouldn't somebody who's got a bunch of ballots forum cheat? I would do that if af hiller was about to win. I cheat to make sure he win.

If eight hiller about to win, you should do anything you can. So you're going to tell me one hand eight off hitlers about take over america. And on the other hand, but no one would ever cheat, no one would .

ever break the rules to stop hitler.

The conversation that people, the dumb american pop conversation is, would you murder a baby if that baby was eight of hitler? You know what I mean, like, that's the pop question that people ask you about eight of heller and and I think the employ correct answer is yes you're supposed to .

say I would murder .

baby hitler and seventeen .

probably feel a little bit Better .

about yourself yeah by time seven and a real fix a little fucker but anyway .

so you're in .

someone wouldn't it's also like it's not even just that there are liars who are in the business of propaganda. It's that it's incoherent propaganda. Your propaganda doesn't even make sense.

Like if propaganda point a is true, then propaganda a point b is impossible to be true. It's and one of things that i'm so happy that trump t one um about, you know that is that he just needed to lose like this. There's a certain line of of that they crossed that you're like we need to be in a country where that doesn't work that just too far.

Here's one of the most important precedents. You can't have someone that running didn't go through a primary. You have to least go through and respect the process of allowing us to pick who our representative is.

No one would have picked her. SHE didn't when he was trying to run for president tossa gabbert nuked out of orbit, and that was IT for her. SHE dropped off a Cliff, and that was done. And that's how I should have been in to a body picture as his vice president. Get get away from that. You should always have a primary, like if you really believe in the democratic process and if you really believe in the democratic party, you should want the best representative of your party, as voted for by the population one one hundred percent. And then that you can have someone bypass that because you have a complete puppet.

one hundred cent. And then in addition to just taking how crazy is as you're gonna bypass the democratic process and then you're running on democracy is on the ballot. This is just too much and it's too much you want to like punch yourself in the face, like you can't do that. You can't say that what .

they've been so used to doing IT before they had full, complete control of the narrative because they owe the media and they they own the media for so long they had the the run of the roost for so long that they got cocky and they didn't pay attention to the game. As I was evolving, they're like a uf c one fighter, yes, that, you know, takes time out of the gym, then steps into twenty twenty four and tries to compete against skies of today.

Like you miss the game. The game is way where you and you guys are still doing goofy shit like taking people at the context and not knowing that people going to make youtube clip showing what he actually said versus you and it's going to undermine your credibility even more. I obama was my favorite president.

He's the best spokesman other than clinton of all time. Now I think he's a liar. I look at that.

That thing of him said, he's said there verified people on both sides. That's not what he said. He said, i'm not talking about the K, K, K, and White premises. They should be condemned IT .

was so clear so today and what he was saying was that there were very fine people on both sides of the arguments about tarring statues down yeah, like he was saying, look through its reasonable that there are some people who are like, no, this is our history.

We want to keep IT up and then there's other people who are like, this represents slavery or something like, take IT down and then and then first of IT was clear when he said, IT, that's what he meant. And then they ask him to follow up question, are you saying the the weight the premises are very fine piece ing as no how many times do I need to say that? Yes no. I am not saying that any of the Whites apply. And like, that's not enough.

And then there was a sneaking y thing that they used to do. They would ask him, you disavow White primacy. You disavow White supremacy.

Like what do you taught for simple? That's like saying to to someone like you anything, any crime that you would never do like where you disavow murder. Of course you disavow murder.

Oh, well, well, also you're implicated at something. We have to disavow murder. You're connected somehow know that to murder now, dave smith, under any circumstances due disavow murder, like I am murdering anybody, what the fuck are you're saying?

And after he had done IT like maybe one hundred times, no exaggeration, they d go. Now you still haven't disavowed White supreme ing. I need you like now I have over and over again.

Now, yeah, to your point.

which I think is a really good one, and I think I love the analogy for people who are ma fans, IT really is like, it's like someone coming into em a in two thousand and twenty four and being like a image gitta specialist.

I've never trained, restless or striking and you're like, okay, that's not gonna work anymore like I know that worked in nineteen ninety three, but like, that's not gonna if they have not adapted to the new world that we're living in now. And you thought there was a lot of evidence of of this, like these things that used to work now come with a heavy Price. So one of the things that politicians used to do in general was that they would give a, they would give the same stomp speech everywhere they go.

Message discipline is what it's called, that they, you always stay message. And this is the ideas that you're never going to get your message out there unless you say the same thing over and over again to everyone. But now we have the internet and you have these compilations of kala is saying she's in from a middle school family like seventy five times in a row and you just look like a psychopath you're like, oh, what you so now there's like a cost to playing the game in the old way, but they don't adjust.

And trump p whether even intentionally or not, was always just kind of like, oh, well, I just speak off the cuff so I did I don't do that you know, like, I mean, he's got themes that he hits a lot like all of us kind of do yeah but he doesn't do that and he did. And Donald trump, one of the brilliant things and men, I mean, I can't believe having just asked you this already, uh, about this, but one of the really brilliant things that Donald trump t did, which obviously R F K did IT a. And the vacuum swarm, I think both, like they recognize, looked, learn a new landscape here.

And there are these shows on the internet that have much bigger audiences than these traditional shows. Oh, and by the way, I get to go long and I can really do given in depth, you know, like a point on on every single topic. And dude, I mean, trump comment on here and her refusing to this. This is, I mean, do you kind of put Donald trump in the White house? This is amazing title down.

People who listen in everyone's thinking IT. Well for sure, him getting to be himself and just have a conversation with someone is not being hasty. Le, you know, and I did ask some questions that I wanted answers to, like this proof that he lost in twenty twenty, he did not provide me with that.

And i've said, and we talked about IT in depth yesterday, that if I was accused of election deny, which election denial, it's like the holocaust ier number one and then there's maybe vaccine and election deny, election denier is probably little higher than vaccine denier. You could be a cook in a vaccine denier, but still believe they don't. Trump lost election, but election your cast out of the kingdom.

There's a couple of other ones that go underneath that, but those are the big ones. Those are the big ones. And you get put into a box like instantaneous ly.

If I was put in that box, I would have responses to every question. I would say, well, in George, there was baba ba. BaLance were babbo.

This was distribution. These people were dead. These people, they should have never been voting in the first place.

They were not a united states citizens. I would have all the information already to fire. And he didn't.

He was like this books, I tell you that I have the suspicion that his way busiest than me, and I can barely pay attention to things. Sometimes I agreed to do things that my wife tells me were going to do. So what are we talking about? SHE was you said yes to IT? yes.

I had did when you were making coffee. I wasn't paying attention. I know what if you're talking about where we're going. But that just Normal live stuff, right? This guy is literally running for fuck and president.

He's got what all these golf courses everywhere and businesses everywhere and maroo go and fuck and family, there's millions of things. So they told him the election was stolen. He told me, find the results, find IT.

Let's get IT over. Turn these fuck and criminals. I don't know how much you really look into IT.

I don't know. I know. I don't know how much you studied IT because .

I didn't really have an answer.

I would want you to reggina ate fact by fact. And I think the vae do that. If you ask the vae a question about that, if you ask to advance question about that, I bet if they were accused, they would be able to write off all those numbers .

and statistics. I think that the vae probably wouldn't make the claim .

exactly in the same .

way down ah ah yeah yeah no that they doesn't onna say anything without having I got detailed the answer to IT that's not trump. That's not jd. Yes, at listen, trump is different than van and jd. He's a different type of animals.

So much evidence.

Well, the thing is one of the things that was really interesting, and that was one of the most interesting a moments of your your show with him, was that you weren't asking IT the way CNN what asked IT you weren't badging him and like kind like you were after having a very honest good faith conversation for a while you were asking a good faith like what's the event and ah look, I think the truth is that his lawyers made a lot of outlandish claims, none of which they could prove in court.

Essentially what he has in terms of the argument, I think, is kind of what we have. What we just looked at or like, sure does look strange. Shirt seemed weird to me that eighty million plus people voted for for jobs.

And the regime was so working against him in every other way, like a Green, Green world, whose I think he was one of the absolute, like, most brilliant people out there. This work is incredible. I love the way he put that.

I thought I was perfect where he goes. He's like, I don't really have any evidence that they stole the election from him, but they clearly rigged the thing against them. And then just kind of goes through like all the sensor ship, the hunter bid and story, the media. And so in that environment, it's very easy.

You know the analogy that I used, I think i've may have set this before to you, but it's almost like if if there's a guy who's like cheat non his wife all the time and then one day she's like last friday, you didn't answer your phone when you were out. I know you were cheating on me and she's wrong. He wasn't cheating that friday.

She's kind of right even though she's wrong. You know what I mean, like he might get the detail wrong, but her overall suspicion is in fact correct. I think there was a lot of that with trump supporters.

Where is just like, listen, man, you framed him for trees and for three years of his presidency, then you shut down the economy. And that was totally, partially at least, to ruin his economy for his reelection year. Then you were totally supporting the riots that were destroying you like you were just causing chaos.

Then you over hold the way we do votes and you killed his big october surprise story by censoring IT off all the social media sites. You and now you telling me the most uncompressed ve senator in the history of america, joe biden, got eighty plus millions. He got more votes than obama in two thousand and eight. Really like this, just smell. But that is not something you can take the court.

right? That's not something you can say definitely as a fact and define people and slander people, right? And that's where Julian's fucked, right? Did Juliann I got hit with a huge lawsuit? How much was IT like one hundred?

And I don't remember IT was a lot but but yeah but also, rudiger liani is a lawyer and he should know that like you kind of can't say that unless you got something to really present .

in the way you should say is by presenting the evidence, you should even make claims. You should probably just present .

the evidence well, they were saying, I mean sydney power, I think that's her name and Julie.

one hundred forty eight million dollar damages verdict ads to rudy Julian is, or over his legal lize, about two George election workers. So what did he say that these ladies did?

So these are defamation through you must be.

What did he say that they did? Definition case brought by two former George election workers Marks a new low point for the man once loud as america's mayor, whose advocacy of Donald from false election claims LED the criminal charges and hefty legal bills. What did they? What did you saying that they did? He, what did he say? What did he say? Let's find out what his statements were so you could find IT member.

When ron paul destroyed really jillions I on the debate stage here.

he says, Julian, I that this is different, I think accuses in participating in wide range conspiracy to throw the wall, George, voters who had selected to democrats joe biden over republican incoming. He faces thirteen charges, including violation George's anti rat tearing law, the federal version of which was one of his favorite tools as a prosecutor in the thousand nine hundred and eighty.

That's crazy because he's the one to took out, like the mob. This is Christ. So, but let's find out what he said, if we can uninterested isn't IT annoying .

that they make IT so hard to find, like the actual thing.

you know, lies. He spread about them that that up ended their lives with racist threats. what? What were the lives? What did he say when IT has abandoned their lives? Click on that, like, see what he does.

George election worker suing really jelen tells jurors that his lies made her fear for her life. So what the fact did you say? Repeated false claims about her and her mother, saying that they were engaged in changing votes.

I personally cannot repair my reputation at the moment because you're client is still lying on me and ruining my reputation further. SHE told jillie on his lawyer. He saw bs. SHE testified that her life was turned upside down by the accusations, though they were quickly debunked by state officials. Her attorneys displayed a few of the graphic messages accusing her of treason and more that he received deviations liani, in december of twenty twenty, falsely accused workers at the state farm arena and land of tampering ing with baLance. Yeah, you've got to have real evidence if you want to say something like that.

And again, reduce honey is a lawyer like he should know that you know.

california reported fifty four percent. Now that's someone the range of nine million plus votes, but that's the biggest missing oh, so far still how how they suck at everything over eighty five nava, seventy three or something for washington and organ organ at sixty two percent. So they still a lot to go up there.

So we'll see what these numbers look like.

But at the end of the day, so there there might still be more millions, so IT might get close to the eighty million, mark. I'll be interesting to say because that then that's a misleading chart. I didn't know that there were so many that hadn't turned into their vote. That doesn't surprise me about california. OK, you're shit together.

You fuck in, dork. So yeah, they can do anything.

They're charging fourteen percent and state taxes, the another one percent. If you live in los Angeles, the city of lost energy, you can hit with another one percent. Do that like agent and manager fees, you know? Yeah, imagine like you make a good amount of money exit to say you make a hundred thousand doors a year, you have to pay one hundred and forty thousand. The government for what?

For what?

Then if you move in tennessee, zero, move to texas, zero.

and they wonder why people are flooding out of their state by the hundreds of thousand.

You can even count the votes in time. Michael heads like.

what are you doing? Yeah, no, they can't do .

anything that's such a goofy state, just over burden with regulations. You can even have flavored vapor anymore. What is the baillies hooked on the strawberry is you've got to take IT out the store to protect my little belly is the strawberry that gets some you .

can have flavoured zines well and isn't IT. So like the whole like war on tobacco, which I guess papes aren't tobacco, but the whole like, you know, I cracked out on smoking and everything kind of happened in my lifetime, is it's really, really wild when you take into account all the stuff that bob Kennedy talks about really like, but we're like the most unhealthy country and you took a way like, yeah, a lot more people used to smoke cigarets. And cigarettes aren't good for you.

sure, but we were a healthy our country when people were smoking. Do you ever use ens, uh, occasionally? No, these are loses. These are espresso flavor. This is contraband .

in another company.

Lucy. These are brokers. They have a little thing in there. You break IT because your flavor ite IT here's like coffee break IT buy, oh yeah, baby, illegal in california right here.

This doesn't doesn't .

look like the freedom text. Now if you want flavor, you have to have that and a sticker gum let you can get your semen dumb and you can do your citizen gump with you're forking no flavor in and you could have a nice little experience, almost like you have a citizen in but you're not allowed to have a cant because you're too much of a fucking baby. You can control yourself well and you can either you fuck I mean.

i'm on the road all the time yeah right as and you go throughout this whole country and it's like yet people don't smoke anymore, that was effective. I mean, not like the way they used to know there's not people smoke and cigarettes like that. But every single time I go to in this entire country has an orb and a burger king and A K, F, C.

And like, they have every single town, even when they have nothing else, they have every single type of fast food. And you want, you look around. And like, everybody's obese, everyone's on't healthy. I mean, when you rattle off when Bobby Kennedy gave that speech, when he threw his support behind Donald trump, we always watching that with my wife and my mother in law. They both like have tears in their eyes as he's just reading down the stats of how unhealthy we are as a country.

It's just, you know um man, one thing i'm really, really glad that that Bobby ran for president this year and i'm really glad he ended up through on a support behind trump hand and hopefully gets a really important position in there. But the one thing that I almost felt like you couldn't argue with him that even if you don't blame the same culprits that he blames, which is what they love to to say, say, how isn't everyone not talking about this? How is this not an issue that every single presidential candidate has to address?

Killing people.

killing kids.

It's killing kids and it's making people way more vulnerable to host of other diseases, including cancers. It's terrible for you cardiovascular. Like the seventy seven percent, I think bobbi said seventy three percent of all the american boys are not eligible for the military.

So they are unfit to serve because they're either ob. So they have a host of these meta lic conditions that have come about from poor diet yeah from poison from meeting poison. Essentially you're eating your slowed dosing your body with poison and and sugar all day long and that's most people and we don't do anything about that. But then we tried to regulate vases.

Yeah, do you know do you know the cow?

Yes, I have a matter in person, but I actually did a face time with her. And I think the from the getter boys.

really, that's not paying together. I think she's great I had on my pot test a couple times and it's just seventy seven .

percent of Younger americans between the age of seventeen and twenty four are not considered fit for military service. Unbelievable, dude. Eleven health, well mount health and that's to substance abuse, education, social and behavior factors, criminal records.

Um U S. Military facing recruitment crisis due to these chAllenges as well as a lack of interest among Young people. So it's a only eleven percent is like physically so unhealthy that they can do IT as obesity actually.

So there's probably be a bunch of other conditions other than mental health issues. I wonder that says significant factors. I wonder what number that is. I bet drug and alcohol buses of big one yeah that's a big one, is eight percent for drug and alcohol buse. So I wonder how much the mental health is I bet that's a big one.

Doesn't say, does IT let's find out because that seems like there's a lot of be bought there with mental health conditions, medical, physical health, drug and alcohol is eight percent. Medical, physical health, seven percent. What does IT say about mental though? Mental health and over weak conditions? Hm, out there, four percent.

Mental health, seven percent. Medical, physical, only eight percent. Drug abuse, eleven percent. overweight.

wow. Did SHE. IT is forty .

four percent though more than one reason or condition forty four almost half more than one of these problems that that makes you and eligible it's .

I was I can't remember what I but certain of shanghai who I I think she's great um and was really, really interesting like I had on my podcast twice just really, really smart lady who's really knows a lot about this stuff so he sent me this like video that SHE posted and so i'm in a hotel room and I was there with my body rob bernstein, who's a cohoes of my podcast part of the problem very, very finite comedian.

Very smart I um and so I literally I was texting with him and we were like on our way to go to the show so I was like, hate me the lobby I in ten minutes then I got a news bar taking us to the comedy club. I can remember where we were and nk and sends me this video I was like a video that shit put out on twitter. I didn't know what I was going to, you know he just sent me at and I just click on that and play IT and IT was just about like what her family went through with their kids like like illnesses and stuff.

And it's like and is the most touching video ever and i'm really sit down is so powerful that that I sit down. I'm just watching the whole thing I started crying watching IT is like I got kids with health issue is really cuts close to the bone for me um but as I was sitting there just like like little sobbing watching this video, so emotional and literally I just dance on me in the middle that i'm supposed to meet my comedian friend in one minute in the love to go to this show just you really like, what am I doing? I'm doing my hotel room crying about these kid but anyway, the point of of IT is is that like, hey, look, I don't know enough about this stuff you know I know about stuff that I know about.

I don't I don't know enough about this. I really should educate myself more on IT. But if your argument is that like um that body and coal are blaming the wrong culprits, you know it's not the vaccines and it's not the the wifi and it's not like, okay, I don't know.

But like what is IT then? And why are you not interested in this? Why are they the only ones who are talking about this? You're telling me we lead the world in chronic illness, and that's not something that comes up in any presidential election ever other than when body Kennedy runs .

for president. That's insane. You don't think the increase in the number of autism cases is a an area we should over, we should look into, we should investigate. You think that that's all been figured out. Why you so convinced i'd .

explain i'm sorry, i'm letting you know that i'm i'm somewhat ignorant on the subject. So just like explain that to me like i'm really, really stupid talk slowly okay I can understand where if you're talking about um very mild autism, okay like what we used to call asbury ers, which I guess they don't call IT that anymore. But if you're talking about mild autism and you want to convince me that that went undiagnosed in the past, I can totally believe that there is no way that moderate or severe autism went on IT may have not been correctly diagnosed, but you did not not notice that like i'm sorry.

not a rise in numbers that IT should be a good way.

I'm saying there's no possible way that there isn't an increase going on here because obviously, even even in the nineteen fifties or in the nineteen fifties, if someone was non verbal, they would have noticed that yeah they would have noticed that this you know what I mean.

like there is a lot of kids like that in your school. You know.

there's no way you would have called IT something. Maybe you wouldn't have like, understood IT the way we understand IT today. And and thank god people do understand IT Better. And there's a lot more there's a lot more tools that are provided and there's a lot more awareness about IT and and special schools and things like that. But come on like there's you know so much of this is um it's one of one of the things that exposes the how how fullish shit our whole system is, is when you just see that there is no even desire to get to the bottom of this. It's like the trump .

assassin to n yeah which are the most vulnerable people that we also be protecting. But there are so entrenched in this ideology that you have to trust science and if you're a vaccine, deny a bad person. GLance of vaccine denial. What we're saying is there may be a correlation and there may be something that, if investigated, IT shows has been covered up.

And there may be a situation where the vaccine companies have complete community to prosecution, they can never be held liable, which was the only way that they could still manufacture these things because they said that they cannot be safe and effective, that cannot be safe for everybody. There's gonna side effects exact, and they can be liable for those side effects, then they would go under. This is like, this is what set this whole chain in motion, where when I was a kid to get three vaccines, nine of seventy two.

it's while and IT reminds me kind of, uh, you remember like when they were trying to push the covet passports, the vin passports, and we just fall apart its face like you're like, wait a minute, you're like you you're telling me the vaccine is one hundred percent effective. You're saying if you take the vaccine, you can't get copy or spread cove IT.

And then you're also telling me that the people who are vaccinated in this restaurant need to be protected from the unvaccinated entering this restaurant. That doesn't make sense. I'm sorry, i'm not a genius, but I can figure out the logic and that does not this is flawed, okay. And in the same in the same sense though, it's like, so what is if you're arguing that all these vaccine are safe and bobbi Kennedy a cook, then why do they need the liability protection?

Yes, I absolutely. There was also another thing that they did didn't make any sense because they went against the science. And there was saying that if you don't get vaccinated, it's going to cause various and that's not what they say with people who study viruses and vaccine says you do not vaccinate during a pandemic with a non sterilizing vaccine.

So meaning if vaccine, if you give IT to someone and they could still transplant and they could still cash the disease, you're going to Carry these variants. And there is a scientific paper that I posted, like the early into the pandemic, that said that some people got so upset. Tell me what this says, what this is, what there's Violet gist that would go on these podcasts know they would have to be.

People are willing to step outside the line and say, these things are saying, this is not what you ever do during a pandemic because you're going to create variants. And that's exactly what happened. And people are, doctors started blaming the variants on the unvaccinated.

If you question knows, doctors explain to me how that works. There's no fucking and answer. This is a narrative.

They will have to vaccine. good. Anything else bad? I ve met in your crazy killing people. Death, blood on your hands. IT was all a sign up and IT was super effective and IT was a wave for them to make ungodliness t of money. And that's what IT was. And the quaker, we accept that and realized that, that we're vulnerable to that going to a shit if we still keep following along the same kind of lines they were on today IT seems as we realize that the Better off we all are.

all of us. yeah. And I think I think I got here in a kind of similar way to you, which is I think a story for, like millions of americans, is that I never even thought about this issue. I never dove into reading a lot about any vaccine until there was this cover vaccine. And then I really dove in to IT and read a lot about IT and found out that you guys were lying through your fucking teeth about the whole goddam thing and that the whole clinical trials were totally rigged and totally fake and that you were able to get everybody in the like um the the scientific institutions of our government to all repeat these lies and then everybody in the media and the political class to repeat these lies and then when bob Kennedy came along and said, well, you know how that was all bullshit there was a lot of bullshit with these other vaccines I was like, i'm listening IT doesn't seem unreasonable to hey.

IT doesn't seem unreasonable at all. And the fact that they were trying to silence legitimate scientists, doctors, professors at major universities for stepping outside the lines, they were trying to remove them from twitter to silence them, they worked in conjunction with the original twitter to do that. They silence to real experts, you know? And when that lady from twitter how to testify in front of congress, that was amazing.

That was amazing. Much of people grill her. Like, are you a doctor? Like why you silencing doctor?

The the same one you .

had on temple?

yes. And one of the interesting things about that, which is that was a great still one of my all time favorite jr episodes uh but I was when you know when he was, they were arguing that like they don't have a bias and then I think tim was like, yeah, you ban people for like dead naming or this gender and he was like, yeah, I mean, that's a hateful and you know I give IT that's a bike like that right? There is a bias.

And it's one thing when you're just talking about like whether we're call in. Somebody, a boy or a girl. But then you realize that, oh, you have the exact same thing when IT actually comes to, like, very important medical information about a product that americans are being forced to take, right? This is madness.

no matter what you say, being forced, they are being force. If they want to fly, they can force if they want to work in a place that has more than one hundred people of the workplace, Mandates. And forced if they want to .

go to a university, forced, forced for. And and they were they were implementing in a totally on constitutional way. They were going to, through ossia, through workplace safety, like just the most blatantly and constitutional, a proposal that joe biden was going to make IT the law of the land that every single business with a hundred people and more had to have everybody vaccinated.

And IT was only because of Donald trump supreme court that that gots struck down. And that's something that people who were paying attention remember. And so like, okay, you can demonize Donald trump all you want to, but how many millions of americans were not fired from their job, did not lose their livelihood because they refused, or were not vaccine injured for a vaccines that they never needed to take?

I mean, how many people fell into the category that, like me and so many other people, fell into where we got the thing and beat IT real quickly before we ever got vacuity? Just didn't need IT. We just didn't make any sense, even even with the information we had about the vaccine back then, because we have had a lot more now, but even back then, I mean, you you looked CNN doctor right in the eyes where he goes, well, you're onna get the vaccine.

You go, no, I just speak covered. Why would I need to? And he had no answer for you. No reason why there's no compelling .

reason why join the team that's IT is they are I mean, I have very intelligent friend that had a conversation. Would you going to get accident now? I, why would I do?

That is a weird conversation. I got to beat IT in three days. I got, wasn't even that sick man. I can made a video three days later explaining, and I got in trouble because I took the wrong medication. Guys out your fuck in mind, like if if you were really worried about people's health and safety, when you say, hey, what's this fifty seven year old guy do and get over this so easy what's he doing different? Is he doing different and you go.

oh, he's very serious about his health. Oh, he takes a really good care of himself. By the way, I have you enjoy me given the business to Chris com over, that was one of my favorite home favorite to this year.

He was trying to do CNN outside of CNN, you know, like when he said I ve ever said that and then they pull up the clip like immediately of demonizing.

shout out to a patch. Pt, David, a crew, because they really had my back on that one. It's like that before anything real time in real time had that ready to .

go about two, yeah.

yes.

they had everybody got to jammy the only j jam.

but there a lot of .

knock. But the fact that you choked him in real time and he just had to sit there and eat IT, it's just they were puppets. They were pupils for the system.

They were doing IT because that was their job, that you get ahead in your career. You want to be the main guy at CNN. That's what you do and that's what they were doing.

And now he's not doing any more. Good luck to him. I hope he does stay on an independent path and and becomes an objective person and is made some strives towards that.

I think I think he's taken some fuck in lumps, and I think you've at the fuck out of in that debate that debate was a mike tyson's early fights for you. Why doing with the muffin flat line in fifteen seconds? That's what that was.

I mean, look, man, and it's not really like a comment on me. It's not that um so amazing at debates. It's just like the argument here is so but but i'm just right .

about this on your side.

Yeah I mean that that's my my superpower isn't that i'm like the smartest guy are the best of debates. It's just that like i'm right in what i'm arguing and that makes IT much easier you know I got there was a an organization that was pitching me on a debate two and two debate which I don't really like two two dates um but they they pitch me just like month day after that. I think IT was i'm not right.

I think the topic was about whether joe button should drop out of the race or not and they pitched me that he would be a two and two debate, uh, against two people who want to remember who who were saying he should stay in and IT was going to be mean Chris quo against them and I told them I wasn't no, no, I will not be on his side and like, I don't you know i'm kind of for, you know, yeah, we had our thing. I gave him a beating. I think he deserved that.

But i'm just like, listen, man, i'll team up with like a left wing or on something I agree with. I'll team up with the right way or on something I agree with that. I'll team up with like a moderate on something I agree with.

But no, not the corporate media guy who was the number one show at CNN. Like i'm not on their side. Even if i'm on their side on this issue, i'm against them.

And I I know that this probably been a theme of like every single time i'm on this show over the last ten years or whatever it's been um but I just but maybe it's a problem. I I hate them so much and I really think they deserve IT. And it's not just that they lie about everything.

It's like they lie about everything and then they have the nerve to top morally judge. Like if you just watch, even just the last few weeks of the trump election is they're not in the business of reporting the news. They're totally just in the business of making you feel like you are a bad person if you don't fall in line with the regime.

And it's like all of us know, right? Everybody knows this. AmErica has this giant war machine, right? Like we're just always at war with the most war hungry country in the world. Even if we're taking a little bit of a break from a war, we'll fight two more proxy wars while we do.

AmErica looks back at the nineties, bill clinton, at the time of peace and prosperity, we call IT peace, because we only fought a war in like serbia and had a blocked haye around iraq and were like bombing the crap out of iraq with a few other military interventions in there too. You know, the U. N.

Estimated when that bill clinton sanction and bombing regime of iraq OK everyone just thinks of George H. W. bushes.

War and W. S. War, but bill clinton was bombing iraq is hold that he had a full block cade around the country.

The U. N. Estimated that five hundred thousand children died of starvation or malnutrition due to the blockade. Now i've heard people argue, by the way, that that number is exaggerated. Maybe IT wasn't five hundred, was only one hundred.

So so that's the time that we consider peace when we were just starving a hundred thousand children to death in iraq. And you everybody in the corporate media are in the business. Every single one of those wars you've sold them.

Everyone my entire, like the media has sold those words and you're gonna morally look down on me. You're going to judge me mother. fuck. Er, you're in the business of baby murder. Get the fuck head here.

You're looking down judging in amErica because maybe i'm gna vote for Donald trump or maybe I dare to question the results of the last election you do and fun. And then, and I was a chAllenge debating him because they were playing the clips, you know, even before they played that clip. Some him, because he had said he didn't say that, and many clearly did, but they were just playing the clips of the way they were talking about people daring, covet and the pandemic of the unvaccinated.

And it's you, mr. Vaccine skeptic. You're the reason why this man IT was getting me angry like I was, just like I gott, I got to control this year because .

this is too like I sweet is that that he's on ever meet and now I mean, how sweet is that though? That is the nudie st part .

of IT all because he wants .

to say long cover like, hey, bud, let me tell you something. If you got a novel medication inject into your body more than once, you probably had to do IT twice, you'd probably at least how to get one booster and you have some problem. And you're saying this long term problem is covet, long covet.

Are you sure? Are you sure or maybe that medicine they injected into your body, you got vaccine injured? No, you don't want to say that though, because you still want some sort of a job in corporate media. You have to told the law you should be very concerned that this novel before never mass injected into the people, who knows how many different people are going to have different results from some medications, some terrible fucking and weird way they their biology interacts with this medications going to cause a horrible side effect. And now you're on, I ever marked to treat that that's rich .

and end of the way. He tried to spend IT that he wasn't but but he tried to say because, I mean, he was so he really should just in the White house, he would have done much Better for himself that debate if he wasn't. I was at CNN, and I kon just took for granted that they have the best experts, and so I trust their experts.

And now I realize they were. If he had said that, that would have been very hard. I still would have been harsh on him, but he would have been a different conversation in a different dynamic. What he did was he refused to admit that. And then, and this is really what got me, is that then he started kind of like attacking my motives. Like he was like, oh yeah, no, he goes, I know that, you know this is probably good for your podcast numbers and stuff, but well, like as if i'm I don't really believe what I think.

That's why they're accusing you functioning, that they accuse you of doing things just because you know gonna be alright just .

and get a lot of views, which is but you know like you know me.

I don't do that. Yeah I don't do that.

No, I know .

that I don't do anything based on how many.

Yeah and you you don't like there is nothing I say that I don't believe I might be wrong about some stuff but I everything I I believe i'm not like ever saying anything. You just like, oh, this will you know like bring in bigger numbers or something like that way.

That's why he's accusing you that because that's that's a motivation for people that are in that industry. If you're in the fucking and industry of being a mouth peace for network news, like there's a very narrow window of behavior that you have to Operate under.

You have you have to stay inside these lines and the whatever if you're on fox or if you're on cbc, C N B C or whatever is m sbc and you have A A narrative, they have a narrative in the office. There's a culture this way people think about that and this is your job. So you're going to do the things you think you're going to get you more ratings.

You're going to do the stories that get people more out. Where does how you're thinking? It's the wrong way to think when you're on the internet.

And they also have a they there's a real incentive to never consider like what I said about them being in the baby murder business because that's pretty rough to think of yourself is that and you know I remember um this one time I watch the a documentary on a abortion and IT was like a very pro choice. How much free time you? This was this before .

I had kids. Before I had kids.

I had so much free time before. Do well.

IT was even. I forget .

where IT was on network or something, but I was kind of interested in the subject and know before head kids. But I I remember as much had a very pro choice bent. And there was this abortion, is this abortion doctor, this lady, and he was like, a SHE was like, wasn't i've been an an abortion doctor for thirty years and let me just tell you something. There is no moral issue with having an abortion is a thing in a Peter. This is not a human bit.

But I remember just watching and being like, well, yeah but like you Better feel that way because if you even start to entertain the possibility that what does that make you so there's this very powerful social incentive for them to like dig their heels in and not admit that like, oh, the united states of america, the greatest country in the history of the world, with more freedom and prosperity in the cultivated, the greatest economy and the greatest you music and literature and just everything that is this superpower. Oh, we presided over the bankrupcy destruction and like the evolving into nothing more than like military industrial complex, big bank, big pharmaceutical, most corrupt nation on earth. And we didn't cover that.

We watched all of that happen. And not only did we not cover IT, we demonized anybody who covered IT. And we we were ever, you know, that's very difficult to ever confront. And it's always just so much easier for human beings to just go. No the problem is missing for and and russia racism.

They were were saying that the number one um thing for women was abortion that was that was the the narrative that was being expressed over and over again. That was the number one issue for them, the number one concern.

What was the only political winner .

they had did he was being spied? Ted, no.

no.

but I want to oh, that he is like, he's the man. Kit is the fuck and best when things are flying. And I think it's crazy, I said, is to jammy, oh my god.

so funy he is one of the funny human beings .

on the point is a mass in the Green room. It's just like like he got me down rabb hoo after rabbit didn't hear about this and he's like more experience like curt, i'm trying to like enjoy this experience of being at the comedy club and down trumps about what you're hitting me a conspiracy after to spiracle after to get the wasn't .

you get caught on the side of the bar, admits with kurt mesa you might be in for, you might be in for .

a night and he's looming and he's big, big, giant guy cristini advocate, right? why? Give me your reasons why my child is solving? Because her rights as a woman may be taking away.

why? And if you disagree, please unfolding me curis good news if you got all the cover shows, she's probably sterol now anyway. Also, what the fuck is a woman?

Also could imagine a child, imagine a child, and your child is sobbing because their right to kill a baby inside of them might be taken away. I don't believe that's true. I don't believe that's true unless you've distorted what we're talking about to that child and that someone's gone to tell that child what they can and can't do with their body in some sort of weird disobey an way like what did you say to that kid?

Do you explain what abortion is to explain how they came about, they were in your body and then they came out. Now there a little tiny person that's like super vulnerable and you want to protect their right to kill little tiny person inside of them. I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to do IT and i'm not i'm not a woman. I should not have the choice of what a woman can can do with their body. I would not want a man, if I was a woman, to tell me what the fuck I can do with my body.

And I think if somehow, and I think it's all connected to religion, and if somehow another someone decided, and this would be a very minor comparison and not nearly consequential, but if someone decided that men could no longer get hastor activities, or, excuse me, victimize, if men could no longer get victimize because of religious reasons, because of some sharia law, or whatever the fuck IT is, you cannot do that. Men would be outraged if women were forcing IT on men. We have low population.

You cannot get the activities like what we've like, what the focus going on and you've want to go to okhotsk get because it's legal there. And then they they track you where you in all the home and to get of a like what what the fuck men would be outraged that happening with abortion. There's talk of doing that with abortion.

Where in states where it's illegal, women weren't are not going to allowed to travel in the united states of amErica where you're supposed that freedom to go to place where you're gonna illegal medical procedures legal in that place, whether you agree with that or not, if you're gona believe in state's rights and you don't think that this is a giant prison, we have to show your ID. When you go in an arizona, you should be able to drive around, right? That's the whole idea of one country.

Do you go over the fuck you want to go? It's not your business. There's other things to worry about, worry about these fucking in gangs are taken over apartment buildings, worry about the border, worry about south central los Angeles, worry about the south of chicago and fucking gang violence that kills more people than half wars we have going along right now.

Worry about important shit. Don't worry about what a guy wants to do to get a sex to me, or way worse of woman wants to do. She's trying to get abortion. What's not your fucking business?

I think that if the argument is that abortion is killing a baby, which like there is an argument too, then I can understand the argument being, hey, that shouldn't be a now obviously, I do think there are situations where it's pretty indefensible to force uh, a woman to Carry a baby to term but to .

risk alive. There's a lot of rape in set also health.

major health. Yeah I mean, there are these situations where you find out that there is some congenital disease where this kid is not going to make IT to three years old. And I would never dream of like forcing, you know what I mean, that decision on parents rather than allowing them to make IT.

There is also a difference. The vast majority of abortions are not that and the vast majority of abortions are essentially people who don't want to have kids right now. And that's a little bit that's much tougher uh, to defend than those cases.

But I will say that one of the things that always like I find striking to me is that because i'm like a radical libertarian, and it's very interesting to me that like progressive democrats all of a sudden become radical libertarians, but only on one issue, and they make literally exactly i'm not even saying the libertarian position is to be pro choice. There's liberal talians who are pro life libertarians who are approach ice, but the argument they make is a libertarian one. They're like, listen, I own my body.

It's my body. It's my choice. The government shouldn't be involved in health care decisions. We believe in freedom. This is a basic fundamental right.

It's a very libertarian argument, and it's just interesting that you only apply that to this one area. There is not any other area where the any progressive democrat would ever go know we're talking about obama care. We're talking about regulation and we're talking about taxes.

They would never go hay less. And this is my money, this is my body. This is my choice.

The government shouldn't be involved you know what i'm saying? And there is something that's very bizarre about that point um where it's kind of like maybe with immigration, they kind of try to use that argument to let go. You shouldn't stop a person freedom of movement type thing. They don't really do that anymore because it's been such a disaster. Um but it's just very strange to me that it's like ah what you all become radical libertarians like only when IT comes to this thing, which is kind of murdering a baby.

But then there's the other side that says we're going to leave IT up the states. okay. Well, if you get with the robby weight and you leave IT up the states, if someone wants to go to another state where IT is legal and you want to stop them from doing that or prosecute .

them when .

they come back to your state.

the problem, that's a problem gambling.

I come back with that person, I get an apartment in local homa, right? And now they kind of live there.

Sometimes what you do is .

where their drivers' licenses.

What is that IT also just seems um I don't even know what the the word IT seems like incoherent or unsustainable to say that if you're not breaking a law in the area where you are, that you could then be held responsible for that when you come back to IT because again, like you know, you go to a state where recreation marijuana legal or gambling legal or ever you know the idea that it's like if there is like the speed limit was eighty miles per hour in the town cover and then I come back and I get a speeding ticket for driving too fast over there where you're allowed to do that. So that seems fun.

workable to you. It's men tube. It's men controlling women's bodies. That's that's the thing of IT that freak people out. And it's a step in the wrong direction if you if you got rid a ovi weight and that you did. So now people have to go to a place where it's legal.

If you're stuck in a state, you don't have the resources, but you are pregnant, you want to make a decision for your own body that's not up to mend the decide. If you really believe in states rights and you really believe the united states is one cohesive community, you should be able to travel to do whatever the fuck you want. You want to get your dictator de, whatever you want to get. You want to get forehead in plants so you look a unicorn. Whatever the fuck you want to do, if you want to travel to go do that, including if you want to do something that's legal to medical procedure that maybe I don't look I found on, but if they decided in that state that is legal, you should be able to .

do that there yeah I mean, I I think that um the the reasonable compromise for right now review way was struck down. It's a state's rights issue. But yes, I agree with you are the tracking of what you do in another state where IT is legal in that state first of IT just seems unworkable to me. I don't see how it's possibly going to happen. And then I do feel like that's gonna have to go back to the supreme court anyway because it's such a precedent that you could be prosecuted for doing something that was legal in the area that you did.

It's creepy. It's creepy and it's an infringement on rights. I don't like IT even if I don't like, even if I, you know, I wasn't approach choice person.

If I didn't like the idea of abortion, I like less the idea of the government telling you what the fuck you can do and whether they can discover what you did in some other state, like, shut up, that you can do that. And that's what I think. A lot of women are fearful love.

And a lot of that I don't know if I don't know how much of a push there is to make something like that happen. We tried to find that about texas the other day where there was one case, but we just kept talking. What was that one case, Jimmy? There was something in texas where someone may be traveled to get an abortion because in texas sits six weeks, which is kind of crazy like you don't have any time you you barely have enough time to realize your pregnant for a lot of women.

You're well, I mean, you're probably not even going to a test positive on a like a home pregNancy, I think for like twenty eight days or something like that. So you got two weeks essentially yeah and after .

that to find out, make a decision do to I do and you have to make sure you get in under the wire or you get prosecuted like seven weeks you're in jail yeah which is kind of .

crazy yeah like it's very I don't know it's it's tough when you're drawing a line. It's very tough. It's very tough to find a line other than conception that's not arbitrary.

right? Biller gh had the best bit his bit about what's fattest yes, believe woman's right to choose. But I think you can debate, you know, it's like jesus Christ is dead on on.

Yeah, luis k. Had a great one. Two I can remember that was an old love bet, had a great abortion bet.

It's a thing that I would say that if menu get pregnant oration be an APP on your phone, he'd be able to get a fucking abortion in the gas station. He'd like filled up and take this out like i'm not fuck that girl, i'm not Carrying a baby. But SHE would think this is the case, and it's a little confusing.

Okay, a texas woman who was jailed in charged with murder after self managing an abortion, what does that mean can move forward the law, you against the local share from prosecutors over the case of drew national outrage before the charges were quickly dropped, a federal judge ruled on wednesday. So U. S.

District judge drew by tipped and denied a motion by prosecutors in the share of to dismiss the lawsuit during a hearing in the border city of michelin la. Zell galas who spent two nights in jail. On the murder charges are seeking one million dollars in damages in the law.

Hood did not attend the hearing text. Texas, one of most one of the nations most restrictive abortion, bans and outlaws the procedure with limited exceptions. Under texas law, women seeking an abortion are exempt from criminal charges, however. So why did they charge her? What did SHE do?

What is self .

manager was, I mean was, I mean, oh, SHE took a drug. So h guns also was in died in twenty twenty two after he took the drug miso prostate while nineteen weeks pregnant. SHE was treated to texas hospital, where doctors later performed to the syrian section to deliver a still born child after detected no fetal heart beat. This is a little different.

In nineteen weeks is pretty late too. Yeah.

this is a different. The charges were dropped just days after the woman arrest. Okay, this is different.

This is not someone going to another state. So I think that is probably A, A, J, D. vancey.

Hadn't heard of that before. Certainly wouldn't want to put those kind of restrictions on people ever. But when you leave, leave IT up the states. If you're stuck in one of those states, that's where women get really freak out out that roll vy weight was overturned.

Yeah well, look, it's not none of these things are perfect compromises. And so even one of thing is interesting is like, for so long, conservatives wanted to overturn robi weight, and IT always seemed like a pipe dream, like IT was never gonna really happen. But then when you do overturn roby wade, you do realized that it's like, nobodies really happy.

You know what I mean? Like, it's like the blue states are still going to have like and restrictive you know rules about IT. So the red the right wing people aren't happy and then the red states are going to be more restrictive.

So the left winner aren't happy about IT. IT is it's one of those issues that is an enormously complex and it's very difficult. You know, i'm not sure there is like a legal solution to IT. I think it's a much more of a cultural issue. It's like you're going to if you were living in a society, we are say IT was more similar to my grandfathers society where there was very Normal that you married your high school sweet heart.

That was very Normal that people waited till marriage to have sex, and IT was very typical that you ve got married at nineteen or well, i'm not saying they did, but I just mean that was much more typical yeah to get married IT in nineteen and be married for sixty years or whatever. Um it's much easier to have rules about abortion in that society yeah you know where is like if you're in like a hookup culture world where most people are people get married like thirty five if they get married at all and they're spending from like seventeen to thirty five being with many different partner using apps yeah you just going to come in and just write a lot on top of that. It's just a very it's a very difficult situation.

But you know to your initial point, it's like the dens were running on that because that was really the only political winner they had. That was the only issue that people actually really cared about and they were on the democrats side about IT. And that's that's why they had to run on that. So why come out on Harris, which was one of the crazier things of this whole campaign? Most amazing things is that they actually tried to just run on nothing.

One of my favorites was that tim walls tried to claim that his wife got pregnant through invita fertilization, and SHE said that not true. So he lied about that.

What we are.

guy, he was, his wife had to come out and say he was lying. yes.

Well, so something, okay.

I get lied about everything. He'd lied about being A A head coach using testing coach, lied about as a military rank, lied about whether naughty serves in a war, lied about whether or not whose tanin square yeah lies about everything.

will see what happened is right? So obama, who was obviously a very, very smart guy and you know incredibly talented politician at least in while he was running for president, he was um I think he's lost was that but so obama still was a bit of a nurse cest and he wanted to pick joe biden as as VP. He didn't want someone who was going to outshine him.

And so he picked joe biden, who, you know, if you were even before he went seen, ie was never particularly bright. So he picked joe biden as his, his V, P. And a.

Then joe biden, well, he wanted some some diversity points, and he also wanted someone to not outshine him, because now he was becoming sea al, and he was never that bright to begin with. So he picks kala Harris to be his V. P. And then kala Harris needs to pick someone who won't outshine her. Know what I mean so it's like the inaccuracy, just like span ada control real quick where all the sun you get to like the third V P in a row and you're like, you really this is who you picked.

He's a knocking.

You know, it's crazy is that this was in in many ways this was a this presidential election was just so wild and so different from anything i've ever seen in my lifetime you know i'm forty one and this was different than any other presidential election of my lifetime for sure I think yes, I think I think that too um but then there were these things that were also just like very conventional explanations for why you look at this trump blow out and it's almost like as you look back and it's like, yeah you can thought you could get away with that is just just very basic things that like Donald trump picked to VP who, whether you like him or not, a pretty impressive guy.

Very, very pretty impressive guy, is a guy who went to, who was raised by a single parent, who was a drug and ended up serving the country, going to an iv league school, becoming a venture capitalist, becoming a senator, and and consider, have a conversation with you for three hours and be very intelligent and expressed and and have fun, yes, fun. However, you feel that objectively, an impressive person. And he picked A V P that could help.

He could do things that trump can't do. You know why he could go on on a show and and really make the case pretty well in a hostile environment. He's got a very high verbal I Q.

Clearly, you know, his very intelligent guy, SHE picked a VP who can do anything to help her is good, like the weird human being you've ever see IT. Like, like what was the strategy here, guys? And they actually they really just bank on being, not trump, that they go.

You know, all of the things that SHE ran on four years ago, he walked away from every position and didn't have an answer for any of them, did not an answer for what like it's totally fine to change your mind on something and it's only every reason yeah I mean and is very easy. I've all changed our and lot of things and if you were like, I did, you used to believe this, but you believe this like, well, let me tell you something. Yeah, I read this guy and he just made such a good argument about IT.

And then he had all this data that I didn't really seen before. That's fine, but SHE never had an answer for any of them. He went, my values have been changed.

But why? Well, okay, so but again, what's the answer then? Like you were four medicare for all, now you're not.

You were four open borders. Now you're not. You were four, whatever the a bunch of other stuff, trans surgeries for prisoners or whatever. Now you're not.

What have you had no answer for that? She's also that sitting VP and they go over you running on the track record of the last four years. No, no, no.

I'm also not onna run on that. What will why not because i'm not jail by den like this like what's what that's what you're running on. That's IT and it's just like IT .

was by severe so many people who are binder, which is even wilder it's wild that so many people were like, yeah, this is what we got so let's just fucking gas light to shit out half the country and run with IT and also see how far we can take pst. Let's come back talk about this and I did this song earlier. Sorry, all the man, he's old dudes of bad posture are different than old dudes with .

regular posture is .

a very good point like this. Yeah is that yeah the yeah after while gravity just wins, but trumped keeps on truck and he's the only guy that went four years in the White house and didn't get older.

Really something really interesting about .

the same pretty the same four years later where everybody else looks like they're been near a nuclear blast. You know what? I really.

really poisonous. Yeah, it's a really, really good point. I ve always thought there was something about like cause you know just from doing stand up you know if you think about like if you really try to remember back to like your first a few months in stand up comedy and remember like how daunting getting up in front of people was o it's like a thing that's that's the first step to being a stand up comedian isn't like getting great material or even being it's like, hey, get comfortable with going up in front of a group of people and speaking into a microphone to that get comfortable with not getting a laugh when you wanted to get one.

Get comfortable that and there is something where, like, like in two thousand and sixteen, you know, people forget about this human element of IT, right? Like jeb bush. Okay, the sound of a president is the brother of the president, and he was the governor of florida.

It's not like he was A A like a rookie. But when he's on that debate stage, he is stepping onto the biggest stage of his life. He's never been in front of a crowd like that before. Donald trumpets tuesday.

right?

This is what I do not like cracking is neck and go out there like, oh, are all the spot, lakes and cameras on me that's about right? Okay, you know, he's just like he's and he was so comfortable and I was a huge factor and why he was able to just nuke everybody ah because it's like that this is what I do on the center of attention. These guys have never been there before.

He was funny when he used to talk about the one lying that he cracked about rosio donal, he was, thank god I had that one because he was coming after me. He was coming after had that one. I got her with that one.

He, he won her over.

He did look at her. Speaking for him, apparently SHE crushed IT and as .

he had my cuban yeah he did. He was great.

Yeah I watch that she's .

that he is very short impression .

was the original fox from but SHE is original like super hot woman on fox who was .

so so much smarter than you. You like smarter and with Green they are wearing .

something very inappropriate vina not even a good curtain kind of grama has over to say that fatter in the breezes rose by like cheese s Christ, your inches away from vagina ina that's covered by the the thinness piece of cloth. It's a wild way of .

it's a weird culture over there.

It's amazing. Litter of four years ago, we had mark cuban on the program. Mai seen he was in the news this week, and he started going on about how bad amErica as race history was and how ashamed he was of america.

That's why he was at all these protests. And he felt that was really important to stand up and speak out about human rights violations. And then I got our, and when I asked him, but all the money he was taken from china, then he dropped a bunch of bombs. And I thought, I really enjoy the feeling of proving mark cuban wrong. So here I am at a trunk rally, a strong, intelligent woman to prove mark cuban wrong again.

Yeah.

that has thing. Yeah.

he's she's a beast.

Yeah that one that one has thing.

IT was very it's funny took because she's not like been in politics but that was very like politically savy there was like a really smart way to go at IT um but he was .

very defined as well remember when SHE won't overdo that nbc show that was crazy like they took her from fox. They gave a shit tone of money and then they just didn't like her over .

the and I was over the lamest thing I forget him in the comment. Something about like face halloween costs.

Can you pretend to be a person that you admire that's like if you want to be Diana ross just like I know what's wrong with that, right? It's not a bad question. There's one thing if you are mocking african american people, if you have like fucking and al jolson black face on, but if what if you want to be mister tee and you're a ten year old kid, if mr.

Tee es hero, do you really think that kids racist? He puts a lot of gold chains on and Brown makeup on his face. Like, what are we calling black face? Yeah what does that mean? Really black face in terms of like aldus and takes up, yeah like they literally used to use White guys pretending to be black guys and movies. So they didn't have to .

have black stars and they would be like overly dum and he was like was very IT was clearly like, we think letter of these people. But that's not necessarily the case if you just have the color black.

what if you halloween? Yes, like you can, but you do everything but the skin code, which is just bizarre. Well.

there's that's one of the other things that I do think is has been very interesting over the last really over the last couple years, I guess. And it's really on display with the trump reelection thing is that the culture has moved the jersey.

When I talked to robot down a junior about trop thunder. Yeah, I you think, could you do that? Oh, you can do.

yeah. Is great. Is such a .

great response. He is great.

But it's technically true.

You could do that. I thought a conversation.

the venture with coma was goofy.

but I love every interesting, very concerned always.

That's right.

yes.

But I do think there's some stuff that we look back at now at like two thousand and seventeen, two thousand and eighteen that, like the voguish of that era does seem to be like, yeah, things don't quite as crazy as they were then or at least this there was a little bit of like fatigue of IT. You find I can't get away .

with IT anymore isn't like the pendant I get one the other way and that ultimately IT moves. It's moving towards a Better direction for society and is just a massive over correction. And then you have hustlers and grifters to get involved.

You can amplify the movement, right? And know is the like the black lives matters girls about all the real day. There was also some accusation that they bought the house for substantially more than a person paid for just recently before that, and they have a connection to that person. I do something like other genes.

Yeah, it's the communist who are always like, yeah, but I also want .

to be onderstand onderstand the group get exposed, gets exposed. So I in the the .

election this year there, we're like kind of vote culture in general. So I made IT broader than the election, but there were kind of three major factors that I think we're really interesting. One was that I think the anti I think that the like for lack of Better time, like the kind of anti walke or non woke people kind of won out in the marketplace.

Um there there's examples of like the time brady road, I think here I think you are an example of that. The tom brady rose was an example of that. Shame gillis career was an example of that. Tim dill's career was an example of that. It's just at a certain point, it's not even that netflix changed to their mind and they're willing to have these guys on because they had like some ideological transformation.

It's just like, I don't know, do there there so big that so many fans this is gonna get a ton of views on IT there a mix of that? And also kind of for the first time, there was like a cost imposed with the bud light stuff and the target stuff. There were these like kind of very effective boy cuts where it's like, oh, there is going to be a cost imposed on you if you do that.

The second uh, factor with with the trump stuff and why they weren't able to get the shock troops out and when I say the chat grips, I just mean the left wing twenty year old useful idiots who will come out in protest. Yes, there's a fascist movement here, right? yeah. So one of the things that happened and this part of why this is a non controversial explanation for twenty, twenty first two thousand and twenty four, is that in the year two thousand twenty, joe biden's central pitch to amErica was a return to Normal, say, yeah. And that was a very attractive pitch, I think, to a lot of people, especially if you can put yourself in november of two thousand twenty, you you've gone through the crazy st year ever and it's there's lockdowns, there's riots.

The whole economy is a mess, everybody working all of this is just and and you're constable like, oh my god, trump p is is is crazy and then the reaction to him is crazy and then joe biden could just be like, listen, you know me yeah, i've been in the senate for seven hundred years yeah let's go back to regular a doctor exact and by the way, okay, i'm not campaigning. That's true. I'm i'm in my house the whole time but there's a pandemic that's of the responsible thing to donal jumps to doing a super spread or event right now. That was still the narrative at the time.

even though none of IT was real.

Someone die from covet that went one of his events. Yeah, I think if I D remember this was a ban, then carson, he got coved didn't.

I don't remember who died from covet that went to one of his vands.

I don't think, I don't remember. I think somebody, I think somebody might have I actually .

remember red the story yeah, who was a supporter of of triumph, one of getting covered .

and dying, which like whatever.

who even knows whether he got IT there and what probed I .

but might have been I don't know these outdoor events. I don't know if they .

really were or not, and I prox to each other, just like the flue, right? I member that .

starts then .

you brilliant to .

another .

guy was like, very dismissed.

Yes, yes. I mean, he's a bit of an old duck, but he's a genius for sure.

Got the painting with jesus behind him with his hands and .

the shoulders like, hey, Brown, there's a weird stuff going out there. But he actually he is an interesting got brilliant, very, very brilliant. But so any with this pitch of like the return to Normal, say, in twenty twenty is active, it's attractive and IT also look at fed into the this is essentially of the entire corporate media was like, the problem is trump, right? The problem is trump.

Everything was the united states of america. Then this trump guy came in and ruined everything, you know um where's the reality was always much deeper than that that like, no, there were these huge problems and that's why a like figure was so attractive to people yeah but then what happened is joe biden came in and nothing went back to Normal. I got even crazy than IT was under Donald trump.

So now people were looking back at the first three years of Donald trump. Like that seems pretty Normal compared to what we've been going through in the by administration. So this sucked a lot of the energy out. And also, you have the mystery of trump. He's gonna eight of heller there that is not he's been in for four years now in two thousand and sixteen.

They were like, you can't trust him with the nuclear codes and there was a little bit of applausive claim to that like I don't know, he would be the first president ever with no political or military experience and he does seem like a little bit a wild man, but you can't really sell that anymore after he's been president. So that kind of took away from the the energy c. And another thing, and I I don't know, I have not i'm not saying i'm the only one making this point.

I haven't heard anyone else making this point. And I just I think this is a huge part of IT, okay, like a huge part of the reason why you didn't see tens of thousands of Young people at protesting trumpet medicine square garden. You only had like a hundred people there is because those Young left winger ers who were reliable shock troops for the regime over the last decade.

They've been protesting a genocide for the last year. They've spent a full year protesting what they consider, and at least the international court of justice plausibly considers a genocide. And it's very hard to get someone who's been protesting babies being slaughtered to turn around and pretend that something else is way more of an outrage, and especially to then go protest on behalf of the ones who are doing the genocide that you've been protesting against .

for the last year and a right.

I mean, listen and yes, it's I mean that israel forget invading lebanon on are going to war with a red israel can conduct the war in gaza without the us. It's our weapons, it's our money. It's our intelligence that they're using to do this is, you know, amErica is, if you view this as a genocide, which I don't really use, that were too often, but I do view IT is like just horrific.

And if you view IT that way, there's no way that the us. Isn't implicated. This only happens because the us. Is funding and supporting this.

And if you want to get those activists to get outraged to something else other than that, when that's obviously .

the most pressing concern globally, it's very tough. They're been a year doing that and it's urt.

These Young kids, you think the difference two thousand sixteen and twenty twenty and then twenty twenty four podcasts, huge way different. They all listen to podcast. Everybody gets clips. You hear opposing perspectives. You hear very intelligent people come on and make arguments that you're not here in on T, V, V any more than they get shared. Even if it's just shared clips on tiktok and youtube break or youtube shorts and instagram reals, they're going to share left and write and you you can just keep a narrative .

going anymore. You well, that this came up a one when I was debating Chris coral, but it's like even just the way they you know the way they talk about you are like where it's like of these these bro culture guys or something like that like again, i'm sorry. Objectively, objectively, this is an opinion. What happens on this show is so much more intelligent and thoughtful and deep than anything that's going on at CNN.

And you just can't tell you can tell me that you sitting down with elon mosque for three hours and then compare that to like wolf blitzer with all these graphics behind them, talking for thirty seconds before he goes to a pharmacy dual commercial and then coming back and having the dome's left wing or yell at the dome's right, when really and you guys are going to act like you're the grown ups in the room, it's just it's too ridiculous. That's right. So the entire Young generation, as they've all turned that off, that nobody, none of them are getting their news from from CNN anymore and look around that I think the most beautiful part of this election.

yeah, mame is dead. Yes, that was a raps on and certainly is not comparable anymore. And if you look at the numbers, like what are the numbers that CNN has a first regular show compatible, the numbers of the trump podcast.

I don't think they have a show that regularly million views. The biggest one is still under a million.

The twitter, uh, the x video that I posted when I posted elon on the podcast between me and him, I got sixty five million .

views in a day.

in a day yeah. And that's not counting youtube, which is like another I don't know how many million he got on youtube and that's not counting two days ago in between count to five million. And you know there was um like the access the number one new source on earth yeah on earth it's the most trusted because it's the only one that's not fucked with yeah.

So even if someone's is incorrect, the community notes will correct them yeah that the community notes of rocks, soil is a great way to find out what's real was not real. And then you look in the comments and you see people debating IT and it's happening in real time and it's happening when ever something breaks and its its way Better than what you're gonna get on corporate control. dia. Way Better. elan.

Most buying twitter was at least as important as trump inning. It's election again, maybe more made. The most important thing about trump winning might be that he's able to stop them from coming after you on mask.

Well that that's a big factor. But I also think that elan n must buying twitter if if that doesn't happen, I don't think trump wins the way he wins h one hundred. I think it's a real tight.

I think if if he does win, it's barely okay, let's take podcast out. He doesn't win at all. You take him being on thee of on hyping on me, hindi on all these different milk boys, all these different, different Andrew shells.

That was a big one. That was a flagrant was a big one, because he got him to fuck around here, you know, you see him laughing and joking around. And shell's joke with them, they having a good time that humanized and more do you say that shows the fuck and pulled his special ah from a theater three hours after the trump thing got released yeah and .

he did IT at a bigger theory of court which by the way, that's another thing that's change that's really a fascinating thing to mate, right? So litter, i've watched ed this happen and I know you have to where the the counselling stopped working IT was so effective and then all the sudden IT just stopped for a big part of that as eo on mosk for short. But there's other factors involved in IT too.

Um I mean but I remember like there were guys in two thousand and sixteen, two thousand and seventeen who were very much like in the national conversation and they ve got straight removed from that. My you up was a great example when he went on bill marr, he had like, he killed IT on bill marr, he killed IT on your show respect yeah. He went you like a gay Christopher hitches something like that yeah.

So he's so now. And then he made the other guys look like fools too. Like, so then he gets taken down and he went from being a guy who was like very much shaping the national conversation to being just removed from IT. And there were other guys a bit .

of a drug problem yeah.

i'm not saying there were other factors involved, but there were a bunch of people like that who got removed yeah and I do think I think the tipping point was when they came for you and IT failed um but IT seems like round that time IT stopped what isn't I I heard of Andrew tate for the first time ever when he got cancelled from everything. That was when I like that, I didn't know who he was before that. And then he was like, oh, the guy who ve got cancel for everything and now he's bigger than he ever was. He was like, the most google l's man.

my box. Yeah my kids asked me about him because my kids were getting little videos of the tiktok is before you got to like real trouble when he was just starting to like to manufacture. And but Young guys resonating with IT SHE was, what do you think about him? And I said, he's a legit cake boxer. I guys to watch cake box. He was like, you know, in that organization, whatever organza, he was a champion.

His legit.

he can fight. Man, when he became, like, this influence else. Like, okay, I kind of tracks kind of make sense.

right right? Well, I just the thing that I found so interesting was just and IT happened with him, uh, great example is talker carlson canzone. So yeah. And then even the thing we were just saying about our boy shot, it's like these cancellation attempts, all the sudden they went from like, oh my god, this could rule in you like it's making .

you stronger one days last night.

No.

bro.

at the mothership buro, which prior to have video of the opening .

and they go not, they go not when tony.

this is the new dynamic now, yeah, it's like the tool that they use to use to control the narrative is now losing them more and more of the night.

Tony now has thirty five minutes on the whole thing, really. Yeah, thirty five minutes of people do.

Is he going up tonight?

Yeah, i'll probably .

up to night I watch I have to watch I comedy by the way, the best thing in comedy is like when there's like a huge thing and someone's got there's just something about like when they got new fresh stuff on. The thing that just happened is just the best part of .

stand up my feel like my inward completion joke.

I remember what literally one of my fate like if I had to put a flag down on like five of my favorite moments since i've been in comedy that that show that we did at um what's a call the van yeah he was before the mothership was opened, but IT was the day after IT came out. And IT was amazing. There was something surreal about IT watching you go on stage in the moment where you're like in the cross hairs of the biggest cancellation attempt and then haven't you're do the Better on IT watching IT the next day this happened was like there's just an energy about that that you just like, oh, shit, do like this and I was just amazing is amazing .

what to take something and turn into a positive yeah like take this moment and create a bit out of IT.

How do I my favorite, a show of the year, I was, I just little. I happen to be doing a weekend at the moo when trump got got shot. I mean, I was leaving my hotel to walk over to the mothership, and then just all the sud, my phones started blowing up, like text tax, tax, tax at all this.

And I was like, what to what happened here and then I pull the video was like, oh, shit. And then that show, whatever the old, the early show on that demand for if people were, they are IT was just the most fun, is the most fun part of stand up, where you're almost just like you go like, well, forget what I thought we were gonna talking about today. Now we're going in a whole new direction.

What am I going to go up there? Not talk about this for a half hour. Is that possible? Know, especially for me. Know it's like, well, i've got to go. It's just something beautiful is the best partisan of common.

It's a great part. And if you're there alive, it's so fun. It's so fun when you know someone is talking about something that just happened. Yes.

and i've gotten i've gotten like messages and tweet and stuff like that like from people who are at that show. I'll still get like you like someone I like, come up and just be like to I was at that show. I was a good one.

You don't get a whole lot a moment. I tell what the present almost gets fucked in iced. And then all the nutty people trying to say he staged as assassin nation attempt so he could regain the White house.

That is a propaganda of those are the nuttiest of levelling people. He think flat earths are none. You think of seventy eight year old guy is gna allow some dude with iron sites to shoot a nick is year from one hundred and forty years well.

um also another guy ricket killed.

Yeah, there was pretty yeah.

I really wonder if tms gna try to get to the bottom of that stuff. Maybe he just doesn't want to even push IT.

It's hard to know what happened there, but he seems like a lee harv oswell type dude. He seems like a guy that they set up. Well, there's a lot to that story.

There's a both stories with both of the assassination attempts are very fishy. There's just something .

that just works is the most fishy. Did you see the video of his dad his dad leave in costco so he's got costco with a whole full Carter stuff and there's a dude with them was wearing gloves and a mask and sung glasses and a hoody and this guy is helping. He's wearing gloves ah so he's not leaving any fingerprints anywhere. It's the weird look, this guys what and this is like recent .

so this is in the .

heart .

of coffee.

which is only a few months ago. yeah. So you have the rooks dad and his dad is pushing the shopping cart and you get this dude s with him who's like in full disguise with gloves. It's very weird that.

well, look, I mean, so you have there's the first one where you have this guy is able and you can see this is all on video tape. This guy is walking around scoping out that roof look at .

this week is wearing gloves, I think is just weren't got hot covering his hands a little bit right there like gloves now seeks so loves. IT is covered. Everything else up though is somewhere he is got ah I see what .

you thought that though it's a weird it's a weird look for sure well, he he's .

covering his fucking hands.

Yeah he is covering .

his o is not so he's got a full mask on. He's got sunglasses on and a hurdy and it's nighttime and this guy is o you know, no gloves. But this is bizarre, very bizarre. Obviously, the guy doesn't want people know who he is because is with the father of the guy who tried to kill the fuck and president.

The fact that somebody could be able to to get up on that roof with a rifle one hundred thirty yards away from the president, and then not the excuses that they made, made absolutely no a sense. IT was too .

sloped of a role in set .

down is very yeah all very strange. And then the second one, you've got a guy who has a felony conviction for a possession of weapons of mass destruction where he barrick himself, uh well, police were pursuing him with like explosives or something I mean, yeah, there's the charge. Was weapons mass destruction? I remember that because, like, I, like, I didn't remember.

Ze, that was a charge. I thought that was just something bush lied about. But way, there is a real .

criminal home.

BBS, yeah yeah. Know exactly what they were, but I know that was the charge and IT was a felony. And then this motherfucker is recruiting for the ukrainian war effort and is going back and forth to and active war zone, trying to recruit afghan fighters to fight in the war on the ukrainian side.

And then he comes back and tries to assassin Donald p. And then the entire national conversation is like, is the redirect about Donald trump too far and you like wasn't man. I'm not saying it's not applausive that if you call the guy hitler every day maybe some you know doran's Young personal be like i'm going to take out hitler.

But when this guy is going and recruiting for the ukrainian war effort, this doesn't sounds to me like someone radicalized by joy read. You know what I mean? This sounds like something a little deeply going on. And then there is apps. And much like with jeffrey epstein, right, there is no desire among the opposed journalist class to even look into a and then his .

son IT with child porn charges.

So like if his son knew anything .

about what was going on, no one's going to listen. Now, fucking guys jar enough to kids fucked.

It's just IT look at the very least, it's very bizarre. And when you have a guy, i'm not saying and i've got like a case I could present in front of a jury and get a conviction, but when you've got a guy who has been targeted by the regime, unlike any other political figure in american history, well.

let's say since Kennedy, but more so because he just survived an assassination, yeah, Kennedy got shot. But the attacks on him, the long fare attacks are unprecedented. The weapon zing of the legal system in the front of everybody's eyes, like trying to find a crime.

Yeah no, that's right. And so all of that. And then you see these multiple attempts happen IT. You'd be crazy to not at least one to have like some real investigation into this, some interest in looking at this and all that.

How about one press conference about crooks? How about tell me what, you know, you get to talk, college examination, or just burn the body?

Yeah, can get, we can get into his front. He had no social media footprint.

Come on to this apartment was professionally scrubs. Yeah, don't even have.

So where in his house? yes. So it's all just very strange. I wonder, now that trumps back in, does he does he look into that? And i'm not even saying, and you know, like I really, I just want trump to end the war h IT isn't if Donald trump, if he secured the border or and ends the, if he ends the warn, ukraine secures the border and oil .

production and .

does something to help the economy, put him on mount rushmore that's that's enough, man. Like, I don't you know what I mean. Like that's that's enough, but I I am curious. Like I wonder where he is, but I always .

wanted to be a not rush more. I believe I deserve IT.

And I will say we kick one of them off, make more you guys we could take a vote, keep you.

bargain the flock and screaming in the street if they change moult rush war.

Yeah, T. J. stays. But i'm thinking lincoln .

s got tinker is a man that was a restful, er, keeps him.

alright, fine.

Giant freak of a man, probably was a giant .

freak of a man. And definitely, I think, spend a lot of time .

in cabin's about and everybody.

it's possible. I think .

there is a lot of gain. Inspect and and you know, I bed this on, uh, ancient cultures like afghanistan, all the gay, should they do? Well.

you also got to think like if you're in a world without like plumbing and and toothbrushes and razors, folking a man or folking a woman, not that much different, not a whole lot different .

at that points to the trench .

yeah it's at that point. You're basically like you're just you're you you're have sex with an animal is what you're doing.

But somebody warriors in the past were gay like sam ized did love gay stuff yeah Martins did love of gay stuff like gay stuff.

Well, it's one of the things that I think we kind of found out um with the the the trans stuff for over the last few years as that it's like there there are cultural norms that you can set up where people will do a lot of stuff that you might consider to be very like bizarre and it's very easy when you don't have those cultural parameters to be like no one would do that just because you made IT like acceptable prison. yes. Yeah, exactly. What are so gross if .

you leave us alone with no one but us who is fucked each other yeah, that's all gross.

We are and it's also not and it's like a punch line in a weird way like it's just nothing .

like it's also the one kind of rape you can hope someone gets .

yeah you know that was actually hope .

he gets raped in kurt .

kurt mester a made this point. I remember IT was sometime during like the meet movement. Oh, I know what I was. IT was when ever seen the long order episode where they did like the me too comic? No, it's the most ridiculous thing ever did.

IT was long or they just got to banging out a half hour show like other day or whatever, the height of like council culture, me too, and all this stuff. And so the theme of not exaggerating this, okay, the theme is there's A A shot comic and he's his making all these rape jokes. And now, of course, they do IT in a way like as if this would work at a comedy club like you, just like, hey, you, I hope you get raped.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there are at economic club. I believe IT was filmed at the comic strip live. I think IT was there and much, but IT was that economic club. He said this.

So some girls get up and they walk up because they are very uncomfortable with, like, oh my god, this rape jokes are not funny. Baba, then the girl leaves, gets raped. Turns out that was the rape comic who rapes are. And that's the is most ridiculous, like god story ever. But this was an episode of law order, and the court just started. He made the point that he goes, you know, on the show is just a regular thing that they threaten men with rape like every single time they're like interrogating someone, they go guys like you don't do very well in prison, you know what I mean and it's always just like the threat of, like we will put you in a rape torture if you don't do X, Y and z. And I thought I was like a really brilliant point that that's just totally acceptable threating among with right you guys like you don't do very well in prison is a common like saying and we all know what that means there's say you will be anally raped against your well but whatever you're dude so who cares my friend .

is tell me about on the american taliban guy you know, that guy that went over to to join the time ban said they raped that guy at thousand times. He said like that guy was a prisoner over there for like four years and they just raped him continuously and he said when he was working overseas, when he was a deployed, he said, you would see guys raping guys all the time. There was this one very slow guy that worked in the kitchen.

These guys were lined up to rape this time. There was one guy about a classy back, and the guy kept t and sick, had to get met of back like he get infected. They would go.

They found out they were fucking the hole where the bag goes into aside. Guys, we're fucking the hole. Where is class? Me back gets inserted.

That's not cool.

yeah. But when you have a culture that is like men can have sex with women except to, and the women have to be dressed up in a certain .

way .

and not good.

you leave him alone with themselves. Very florida is .

the floridian .

observation, which is a very brilliant one. However, people will feel about yd, so like, you represent, you know, certain desires, and they reemerge in much darker ways. No, there is.

Just like you have to have a release valve. yeah. Otherwise it's like this, human beings go into very, very dark, very dark place.

Well, it's just people don't react well to other people, tell them them what to do. And when I was in high school, the thing was catholic school girl s always cathos school girls were wild because they yet to be around any boys ever. They were just said, school with girls are all dressed in skirts. They're all told that there follows desires, that they have their bodies going through puberty and are just a horny all the time, that they're bad yeah. And then they can't .

wait to get along with the, and as they get the same thing like you repressed in one area, just reemerges a much uglier way, that if you, yes, exactly the best .

example of the emerging in the creepier way. And know what, they did that with Cathy piece, because the piece, like rock stars, they were fucking everybody says that you have sex anymore. You can get married.

But imagine saying to like a grown man that you can't ever have sex or joke off. That's the expectation. The expectation is that you're supposed to never come .

and they would give you medications so that you couldn't get hard and give you salt. Peter.

yeah, you're going to draw. You're going to if that's the job to sign up to, you're going to draw in some weird people who want to .

sign up for that job now. What's that stuff? Calls are called salt, Peter. How would they give them to make sure that they stayed? Impett killed their sexual desire.

I, I fucked .

poison. I mean, what is what's doing? Just doing that.

What was killing your? Killing your tests, killing your sex ormonds what else is he doing? How depressed are you?

Yeah, that can be.

How many of alcohol? Good of a catholic church. And you see the guy speaking the the, the whatever is bishop, whenever the fucking is big, stupid, blown up nose because it's just get gin blossoms over his hammer every day he lives in a hell ah you live now is probably closeted gay guy that took this fuck in job forty five years ago now is like, this is my life now sixty here I am like, what do I deal with myself?

Yeah, have talked about .

Peter stuff, jammy find IT what what what is saw Peter used for in is the troop reduce a certain cornel urges the second part of the questions, easy salt Peter, the term refers to either parasitic or sodi o night rate has no effect on cornet urges the story that this chemical was put into soldier's food to decrease your sex drive as a total myth. But what about for process? What I had heard.

So one of those things they thought, thought did that symptoms can range from double vision and difficulty and swelling to paralysis and death. The spores of the organism learned in many foods on the right conditions, lack of oxygen, acidity becomes active and liberate their toxin. Sausages are the classes example, the type of food that can be affected.

But in the word about alison, in fact, derives from the lattin boche's, meaning sausage. Well, so this this battle would scroll back up again. I feel like I picked this up at a weird place.

Um serious experts of salt Peter, one of the most deadly substances known to mankind is produced by dm. Bachelor bacteria seven million times is more toxic than cover vum bottling poisoned its victims by blocking the actions of neurotransmitter A C to Colin. Symptoms can range. Okay, so this is the symptoms from bacalem is saw Peter come from bacalem. So one of, okay, one of serious x aspects of is one of the most deadly substances is known to mankind.

Is this about alison bacteria? OK box ism can be prevented by the appropriate use of sodium na discovery that actually became about an accidental fashioned salting of me is an ancient method preservation based on the ability of sodium cho killed bacteria by drawing out much of their water content. About five hundred years ago, some clever cooked dota that the effectiveness of salt and preserving meat depends upon its source.

Furthermore, salt that worked particularly well improve the meats flavor and color. Okay, the secret turned out to be an impurity, but as he iterate more familiar, known as salPeter. Okay, so this is how they came up with IT to combat btl ism OK.

Now what about how? How to saw Peter work? What's the point of IT? Why would people take IT understand? What's so you think about priest, correct? Was the original thing? Yes, OK. Because this is what we had always heard when we were kids that they would give me sot Peter to suppress their cornal urges. So here it's saw Peter, no, where use many purposes in the past, including as a curing agent, key compound of gun powder.

This stuff does everything.

yes, but what about sexual urges? They debunk the myth about salt Peter lowering libido or sex drive. It's false.

It's a myth. It's been going around for years. The myth started when, what does he say? Let's here where the mid started.

Go to R. L. Try military times. But if you see that where IT says their top answer, I know those are all of things.

Message is essentially right. But I would just like to see what that person on the message boards says. It's interesting. The miss started with the military.

See this article from snopes, popular myth promoted by Youngsters in boarding schools, interesting summer camps, as well as men in the military. In prison, some boys or men uses as an excuse for sexual performance problems. Doctors and farmers have debunked the myth about salt Peter lowering the libido proceed or sex charges.

false. Even some ignorant random prison did this. Two group of inmates, they proven IT would not have the negative effects. People keep saying IT does.

but that doesn't prove that they didn't do IT right. They're just saying that wouldn't work.

IT doesn't work. So maybe they like tried to use IT against maybe was like a theoretical thing that they thought was going to you know like wasn't like spanish fly.

Remember spanish fly? Yeah yeah that someone caused me right? Yes, the previous tape ever, the previous .

had a bit about IT and then .

he did an episode ah did an episode barbecue sauce or something like that, his special .

barbecue e sauce get body horning.

What a weird cut. How did, by the way, no one, I guess in the eighties people had a lot of blinders on. But just like just like I got an idea for the episode, like maybe like we're doing, you know, the hospitable family and I just make my barbecue sauce and all the checks want to fuck you're like White. Why would you do that on the show?

I thought we were .

going to do like theo gets in a fight and then we have to talk to him about like keeping his grades up.

the importance of homework.

right? Like there's just so out of the ordinary for what that show was like, not really likes on the star. That really means a lot to .

me that we do strange. So I think spanish fly was another myth that people thought was real. And I remember hearing about IT when I was a kid, that you could give a girl a thing.

This, whatever this spanish fly was, find. What was the origin of experience spanish fly? I stumbled across something crazy about this, a soldier stuff. Yeah um i'm trying to read IT I trying to read through as fast. I could give you a quick answer.

There is a job as as like sweet night to transfer this salt Peter welder profession whose tasks consists of collecting yearn soaked earth in order to make more sault Peter, because they used to an ammunition. So they had these Barnes repeats, IT says, here, pissing men, I was trying go to hear. And that's how they make gum powder. Yeah, you'd pass on the ground into the soil and then they would get enough for that stuff together. Finally, and then you could make some gun bout out how much, but how much experimental .

that IT take to figure out that, like, now isn't, do IT was, if I push on the ground, I can make them Better. You like, how do you figure that was in? Its a long story. All right, I was doing a lot of stuff this weekend.

What year was this? Eighteen, thirty, sixteen, hundred, sixteen, hundreds? They think this figured this out.

Oh my god, that is wild. You up to go back up. And what is here? All peasants? The priest made sure that no one was forgotten.

We're forced to deliver. They are imposed quota of salPeter soil, along with ash wood and coal to the nearest simmering plant. The obligation was replaced in sixteen and thirty four by a salPeter tax.

The salPeter juice, what's always the juice now, instead came to collect the soil themselves from under the farmer's barns. The saw Peter taxes replaced in eight to one by an obligation for each mental to annually supply one half. What is that? A L I pound of salt, Peter, to the state wasn't mean that this was what is I pounds?

Swedish OK eighteen thirty. The salPeter tax seized entirely. The farmers were required to have wooden floors in the barns in order for this salPeter formation to take place.

They were required of wooden. This is crazy. The peasants complained about these impositions and about the visits of the thuds. The simmering lasted annually from may first to september twenty nine. The simmering consisted a continued for six to seven days, or until an egg e could float on the surface.

At this time, lime and ash were added, which cause, uh, which cause the included common salt to Crystalize and be could thus be removed. The whole thing was then allowed to cool down to about twenty five degrees. When the soup Peter began to Christal zed, the raw sop.

Peter was then transported to the gun powder mills. The boilers had the to have the right you to take fuel for the cooking. Is the man that mean that they made like A A little pond of p urn.

Yeah, a little know says it's simmering. They have of that of IT. They must have like a big culture on of peace that. Piedad that they cooked into, you can float an egg in the surface of how so would figured out your point.

How were so lucky live now, my god, I don't want to live in the time where .

I A P on in the future about this time, god, that we didn't live in the time where they were fucking in the whole country, was at war of the stupid shit and controlled by this media that was completely control by CoOperations. And everybody who is being gasoline and people willingly .

gas let themselves. I've always i've always felt the one um you know you could try to guess like like just say if we survive and things improve morally, like what we would look back on and be like holy should they and two to me were always was always war and prison and especially like non violent, you like prisoners, like but even violent prisoners, you almost think like they didn't figure anything else out, didn't figure anything else out other than but the idea of like putting non violent, like this demi st criminals in a fucking in cage, like human beings. You just throw them and I can IT slavery, dude.

like that's just that, but you profit off of IT. So you have private prisons that are actually a CoOperation that lobby to make sure that certain laws stay on the books so that you can keep your prisons stocked with live people that are essentially batteries that generate money for you.

And and just the fact that that still going on wall, we have all of these technological advancements. And you know, like if you go know, you go down like saint jude or something like that. And they are like, dude, they have all of this technology because all of these brilliant people are here to save baby's lives.

You know what I like that's going on. And then also there's war still yeah like we haven't figured out a different way. Like everybody doesn't just agree, like listen, obviously, to just go on mass slaughter campaigns and have nothing but destruction is in nobody's interest. So here's how we're going to solve these conflicts. Like it's just that does seem that like if if human being survived for another hundred years and we you know are at a higher moral level, we would look back at that the way we look back at, you know, which hunts are, or like slavery, or something like to be, like that's insane, that people were so evil, like they could do such evil stuff and they would .

could do such evil stuff in the age of .

information up yeah yeah like very and maybe maybe we are like moving in that direction where you know IT does seem for sure I think that the fact that war the war in gaza has had more um images come out of IT than any other conflict. That's a huge part of the reason why .

there's so much process technology that's everywhere.

Everyone is a cell one very hard, very hard. I think me and you might to talk about that last time I was on right. But it's like even the war in iraq, which is not history, know there was still going on.

I mean, second, we still got troops there now. But like the video footage that would come out would be like, know, almost like a firework, like kind of exploding, which is that easy to see and root for. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, good guys kick in as but when you're seeing a baby being pulled out of rubble who is just suffer, cater to death? Ah that's tough .

tents on fire missile. That's really.

really tough. Do it's really tough to find a way there's still people out there who will find a way to try to justify IT, but it's tough. It's much tougher .

that sort of the divide today, the divide today is object reality versus what have you ve been saying? There's objective reality versus you have a narrative. The narrative is israel has to defeat him.

Mos mos is used, and human shoulders, human shields rather. That's the narrative. The objective reality is blown apart. Children, and not just one like tens of thousands of innocent people dead.

I was just, I was just watching this this interview on plankin on the doctors name but IT was dave camp was interviewing him who is by the way, phenomenal, one of the best reporters in the in the country. Um the camp dave D E C M P. Dave is his twitter handle.

His phenomenal. But he's graded great. He's one of a he's over an anti war that com he's like Scott warton and sky by the way, my guy Scott horton provoked is gonna out I think in the next week or so.

Um i'm like provoked means they on through that it's provoked book that com the best book written on the the history of the ukraine, russia, how amErica just blew IT at every single opportunity anyway. So heat. So David camp is interviewing this guy who is a doctor, is american who went over the gaza is a doctor. And he had there was a big piece in the new york times written about this, where he said that every day that he was there, every single day they'd see they d treat toddlers with bullets to the head, that they were just constantly seeing this.

And then he says that he also talked to a whole bunch of other because so his working theory on this was, but when he first started seeing this, so he's in this one area in gaza, and he was in bedded there for a few months working at the hospital, and he figured there was like some loan statistic snipper out there. You know what I mean, like these things happen in war. But then he started talking to doctors from all other points of gaza who are, they are all different times, who all said the same thing, that they're getting toddlers with bullet.

And then when the new york times published this, they, a bunch of people were defending israel. Start being like, this is in true blood, the israeli at most moral fighting force in the world. So he published the x ray.

He's like, okay, you are a doctor. I have the exchange right here. You publish them, it's just one hundred percent is happening .

like it's just so what is happening I mean.

israel has been on a mass slaughter campaign of a captive people for over a year now, you know and they're .

shooting babies, evidently.

I mean, there is a doctor whose he an american, he's claiming that happened and he has extras. So yeah, that seems like that's what's going on there. And I mean, look, I it's it's obviously just so horrific round the whole thing.

So it's it's really amazing to me the way to watch, the way people will rationalize and justify what is real doing IT takes so much mental dynamics and it's always got to like rely on know it's just IT lets you know it's like old so I get IT you see it's like, oh, how human beings through all of human history have had slavery and genocide des and ethnic cleansing campaigns. And at every step there's someone there who's willing to justify IT and explain why we have to do this because this is the only way. And really we're acting in defense. That's what they all claim, what the nazis claim, what they all clam.

They're really acting in defensive. But again, we're going to look back on this time the way people look back on concentration camps, the way people look back on the mongo campaign, the way people look back on inquisition, we're going to go how how did they do this?

How you allowed to just like, and it's it's amazing the way people can compartmentalise IT too. You know what I mean? Like, you could just be like hate. There is somebody who could be a totally loving dad and a good husband and all like that, but then can go to war, commit like unspeakable horse on other people ah it's just like they put that over here. You know it's very hard to to think about that or understand that but just .

talk to someone who was done that and. This is one of the most important things, the messages that I wanna a get to trump and one of things that i'm excited that Bobby kenly is interested in this as well as psychedelic therapy for veterans.

If there's a way to understand the benefits of psychology therapy for everybody, the real pathway is the veterans, who I think are the most needing of IT, the most deserving of IT, the most that the most neglected in terms of the just the hours that they experience and haven't to Carry this around their mind. And that there is a way that many people have experienced relief and it's not available to them. And it's not something that's dangerous, is not something that's addictive.

You literally can't you can't even eat enough. Sales have and to kill yourself can't do you super. So why?

And it's and it's a been demonstrated to really help at least a lot.

Here's what's most important. All of IT became illegal in the sweeping psychiatric act of one thousand hundred and seventy that was designed by the mixed administration so that they could demonize anti war protesters, so they could, they could arrest anti war protesters, civil rights protesters, the black panthers. They made all that stuff illegal because all these counter culture people were all using that to completely change the programming that they received in society.

Think about the irony of that, like the deep, deep irony that they made this stuff illegal because they thought, if I was out there, they wouldn't be able to get their wars. So they make IT illegal and they get their wars. And then IT turns out that this is the thing that helps the people that are traumatized coming back from war.

But you can't have IT because it's illegal.

It's the .

clearer shifting and I Y, because it's the pathway to hope for a lot of these guys that come back. You ask them to do unspeakable things in modern society that are against the law, and you force them to do IT. You go forced them to go kill people.

They see their friends killed, then they come back here. And there's no tools when there are tools. So, but they have to go to mexico to utilized the tools. They have to go to coastal rea and the amazon. They have to go all these different places because illegal in the very place that sent them over that, the very place that tells them it's legal for you to go kill people that you have never met, but it's not legal for you to take Sullivan that might help you get over the fact that you kill people.

I know my body. Michael hayes, who he just started a media company called the dissident media. He's been big on this.

This is, he's like an activist. He's been working, unlike the decriminalizing of a soldier and for years. And that's one of the major reasons because IT helps these soldiers so much.

We need to be kind der all of us to each other. We need at this moment of time especially. And I i've seen a lot of people saying we have to just accept the results, which I think is wonderful.

We do have to accept the results, but also we have to remember that we are one team. This is team USA, and there is plenty of room for everybody. We all want the same things.

We all want to be healthy. We want to protect our loved ones. We want to be safe and we want to prosper.

Everybody wants the same thing. You want to be able to do what you want. You want to wait able to have a happy life and a healthy life.

This is the one shot that we get at this experience. We can all do this together. We can all do this in one of the ways that people can come to these conclusions and realized that we're all connected is through psychodeviant.

I'm not saying that they're a perfect pathway. I'm not saying that is good for everybody. I think it's dangerous for some people, particularly people that have a hard time with regular reality.

If regular reality is celebrate for you, if you have psychiatric conditions, maybe that's not the thing for you. But for most of us, IT would benefit us and we should have been expLoring this. And IT was stopped fifty four fucker in years ago by a corrupt government that wanted to squash anti war.

That car that I showed you when I was explaining to you such a car, car, that car exists because of drugs, the ones afterwards socks. yeah. The reason why the ones afterwards socks is that the one thousand nine hundred and sixty nine nova, when you get into the one thousand seventies, catered the dog shit. It's exactly after cut off. The psyche is .

making a good car and cocaine. You need the psychodeviant xs to make a cool car.

All the designs that they all turned to shit. The classic cars are cars from the six in the seventies and the early seventies. That's what people want.

Nobody wants eighty cars. They don't want them. There are worth nothing like nobody gives a shit about one thousand sixty nine core of that.

You look at like, look at that thing because their designers, we're doing drugs. Yeah, there were wild people were do their artists, the music? Look at the music sixty sixties and then go to the nineteen days like, what the fuck happened?

Yeah, we had hendricks and the doors and the beetles. We had this wild experimental stuff. Yeah, then if you've ever .

done in psychodeviant xs, you listen that music and you're like, I know what inspired this.

Pretty nice to tire, grateful dead cataloging, inspired. And you almost have to, beyond psychology, to appreciate them that all was squashed by this desire to stop people from protesting and horrible, unjust war.

And and look, man, I mean that I think that's a great message to get to trump like, let these guys like they were like the bravest amongst us who got totally tracked and bribed and propagandized into go into these wars and then they come back and they are blowing their brains out by the tens of thousands and there's something that might help yeah that is very low risk of of almost no risk of like IT actually hurting and IT really might help.

No risk addition.

even Better than that man would just be, keeps us out of these laws. Let's just not fight a man. Let's just and look, I will say is one of the things that i'm really optimistic about is that of that team that we were talking about earlier that Donald trumps got around him, you know, all those people like elon musk and a the vacuum swami and jd vans and and talker carls and and and all these David sax, David sax provide the best.

They're so good on ukraine. Every one of them like, they are all just like, yeah, no, this makes no sense. This is such a clear cut situation where you could easily make a deal.

Glad to hear putin. And I know i've talked about the same pair shows and anybody go listen to those and go it's got horten's amazing book provoked. But just very quickly, IT is all but accepted at this point. Nobody's even debate. When I first came on the first podcast that we talked about ukraine, wherever a few years ago now, when I said, oh, there was a peace deal like that was agreed to in principle by ukraine and russia, and then boris Johnson came in on behalf of the U. S. To make sure they didn't negotiate a piece and kept the war going, there were a bunch of people who were like, oh, that's not true and babbo blood this and now has just been totally like IT like one hundred percent I was right about that. They had a peace deal worked out.

And then since then the um the guy whose name I always butcher but it's norwegian so I don't know just so burger, the head of nato, he came out and sad and he was bragging but he goes, you know, vladimir putin, before he invaded ukraine, told us that if we just put IT in writing that we would not bring ukraine into nato, that he wouldn't invade and we told him, no, because we won't be bullied by you so is like bring about how they had an Operator all they had to do was say we will not bring your biggest neighbor or into our military alliance, which is very clearly against you. The most reasonable demand. Now i'm not saying it's reasonable that he invaded.

That's not reasonable. But IT is a totally reasonable demand. If the us. Was to say now mexico can be part of china's military alliance, you know super so that so he's got so many great people around them on that. But I don't it's not exactly the same with the israel gaza war where IT seems like a lot of the people around him are not so great on that. Some of them of them are really good on but i'm really .

hoping he is a podcast with you mean him now .

you speaking my language? Let's go. Do let's do IT. Let's go. I was I listen up. I been I i've voted for, i've been support them and stuff yes but um you know I think um I would love to do that. But I whether it's me or not, I just hope that he gets the message through somehow that and I know it's a complicated thing to to navigate because israel has a lot influence on our government and they've got and he's got people like, uh, the vae rama swami and talker carlsson who really are non interventionists and don't want to see american taxpayer dollars being used to fund wars around the world. The matter who is for, you know like you just like what broke. We got our own problems here and we can't afford to do this but then he also has um mariam ele son who cut him one hundred million dollars and uh is probably going to give a hundred or two hundred million dollars to congressional candidates in the next midterm election in all of this and heard he is singularly focused on one issue and that issue is that we always unconditionally and unfavorable support israel no matter what they're doing.

Going to set up that conversation. What's do right said that this month you're a fuck national travel treasure. You really are you're national treasure.

Your your is so important in the fact that you can talk about these things. You have such great recall, but you're also funny, is so important. You are so happy you out there.

Well, thank you. And that means a lot to me, particularly just because it's coming from you do and i'm like, do I ve been so god damn impressed with you since well before I ever knew you and i'll tell you after the last couple weeks do IT i'm like, I just can't even believe IT I can't even believe it's real did but thank you.

Thank you for having me again, my pleasure. And any time we will do again wrapped up our experiment.