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Separating Fact From Propaganda About Life In North Korea

2024/5/21
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Haas认为西方媒体对朝鲜的报道失实,朝鲜的困境源于美国的制裁,朝鲜人民的生活比韩国更幸福。 Michael Malice指出不应完全相信媒体对朝鲜的描述,朝鲜政府利用外部因素为其暴政辩护,但其内部问题也不容忽视。他认为,通过观察人民的迁徙选择,可以更好地判断哪个国家的人民更幸福。他还详细描述了朝鲜的边境管控、信息封锁以及等级制度“出身成分”对人民生活的影响。 Jimmy Dore 补充说明了媒体对朝鲜的关注点主要在其军事和战争宣传上,而非人民的生活状况,并指出将韩国描绘成完美国家是不准确的。 Michael Malice 详细阐述了朝鲜的经济困境,指出粮食短缺主要源于缺乏工业和化肥,以及等级制度导致的资源分配不均。他还谈到了朝鲜对信息的严格控制以及人民的迁徙限制。 Jimmy Dore 对比了朝鲜和韩国的社会现状,并表达了对朝鲜人民的担忧。

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Hey, come see us in Ashland, Virginia, Athens, Georgia, Rutherford, New Jersey at the Icarus Festival and Minneapolis, Minnesota. Go to JimmyDore.com for a link for tickets. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this? What's up, baby? It's Double V. Oh, friend of the show, Vince Vaughn. How are you, buddy? I'm doing fucking fantastic, Jimmy. Do you know what time it is? Uh, it's let me look.

It's time for another edition of the wrap up with Jimmy and Vince Colby on YouTube. Why does the name of your segment keep changing all the time? Honestly, I have no idea, Jimmy. I just sit here and fucking read what's in front of me. Fair enough. Jimmy, did you hear about Steve Buscemi? What happened to national treasure Steve Buscemi? No, what happened? Jimmy, Steve Buscemi was sent to the hospital recently because he was walking down the street and sucker punched by a complete stranger in New York City.

And let's not forget a few years ago when Rick Moranis was randomly assaulted on the streets of Manhattan. Now, I'm not saying I'm not implying necessarily in an explicit way that there may be some sort of epidemic of random attacks and violence in our cities directed solely at beloved character actors. But I do have a message for them. Oh, what's that, Vince?

Wow, my goodness.

And furthermore, if I catch any of you involved in this shit, this cold clocking of my character actor brothers, it will be over for you. It will be the fucking end. Do you understand me? We are a brotherhood. We stand together. Violence against one is violence against all. You bring a knife, we bring a gun. It's the Chicago way, cocksuckers. Fair, fair enough.

Good to get that off my chest. All right, moving on. In incredibly not surprising news, famous magician David Copperfield has now been accused of drugging, raping, grooming, groping more than a dozen women, some as young as 15, and some of these incidents occurred on stage. What? You're joking.

That would be a weird fucking joke. No, it's true. The incidents go back to the 80s, which begs the question, are our instincts about magicians ever wrong? Have you ever seen a magician that you were not 100% sure was a sex predator? Nope.

I mean, if a guy walked into a bar wearing that magician outfit, you'd call the cops? Who looks at a guy like David Copperfield and thinks, oh, I bet he's cool with women. He made the Statue of Liberty disappear. That was a metaphor for removing women's sexual agency. They're all perverts. I bet that tiger killed the Siegfried and Roy guy for revenge reasons. God damn it, I'm not taking this anymore. Right, right.

What's stopping us from delivering a beatdown on these pervs? The magic part? Do people think they actually have magic powers? Because you know what? I'm pretty sure they don't. Not 100% on that, but like I said, pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure too, Vince.

Yeah, okay. And finally, Cannes is almost upon us, or Cannes, whatever that place in France is where the movie industry jerks itself off. This year, the one film everyone is looking forward to is Megalopolis. Excuse me, what?

Megalopolis, Jimmy. Megalopolis. With the great Francis Ford Coppola, director of the Godfather trilogy, Apocalypse Now, and a bunch of other way less famous movies. The production of Megalopolis, a sci-fi epic that takes place in the near future, was plagued with disaster from the start, budget problems, Coppola's constant pot smoking, and feedback from the undertaking saying it was, quote, bat shit. That's not why I bring it up. Why do you bring it up, then?

I thought it would be funny to have Vince Vaughn say Megalopolis a bunch of times. Literally, that's just the bit. Megalopolis, baby. Come on, you know you love it. Say it with me, Jimmy D. Megalopolis. It's the funniest shit to say. Are you going to see Megalopolis? Of course I'm going to see Megalopolis. Who wouldn't want to see Coppola's Megalopolis? Hey, Jimmy, what's a fancy way to say big-ass city? What?

Megalopolis! I'm Spence. That was fun. That was a good time. I needed that more than I realized, baby. Well, thanks, Jimmy. You gonna have a good show today? Don't ask me that. Of course you fucking are. You superstar, you. I'll leave you to it. Until next time, Double V out. All right. You take care. Megalop!

I saw this tweet from Jackson Hinkle's pal, Haas, right? Who I've met. And he says, what if I told you everything that you're taught about

This man, meaning the leader of North Korea, Kim Jong-un, and his country's propaganda. What if I told you that North Korea, the DPRK, is vilified because it is one of the only countries in East Asia which refuses to be enslaved by international banksters? What if I told you that all its troubles were the result of an extremely harsh sanctions imposed by the U.S. regime? What if I told you that people in North Korea are in general happier

than people in the South. No homeless, no organized crime, no prostitution or pornography, no unemployment, and an abundant housing for all. Sure, they don't have as much access to consumer goods, but what they have is dignity and freedom, freedom from being enslaved by foreigners and banksters. Their land, people, and culture is free,

from the filth and poison of today's Western societies, and they are better off for it. Do you really think the media has been telling you the truth about this country? So I've been lied to so much by the United States and our establishment media that I'm willing to have an open mind about that, right? So I don't know anything about North Korea, but I know somebody who does know something about North Korea.

It's Michael Malice, and he's a Ukrainian-American author and host of You're Welcome with Michael Malice podcast. His books include Dear Reader, the unauthorized autobiography of Kim Jong II, and The New Right, A Journey to the Fringe of American Politics. He is also the subject of the graphic novel Ego and Hubris, written by the late Harvey Picard of American splendor fame, and he is also the author of The White Pill.

The Tale of Good and Evil. And here's the book he wrote about, there it is, Dear Reader, The Unauthorized Autobiography of Kim Jong-il. Not Kim Jong II. What's wrong with me? It was Kim Jong II. So let me bring on Michael Malice. Hey, Michael.

Hey, so a lot of what he says is correct in that you shouldn't trust the media's portrayal of North Korea. One of the reasons I wrote this book is when this book came out 10 years ago now, most of the media was about making fun of this country. And isn't it hilarious? They're putting on a song and dance. They have to wear their leader's pins on their lapels when they leave the house. It's just like a giant carnival.

But much of the other things he said is not only true, doesn't make sense. For example, if they did all have this abundant housing, why wouldn't they have consumer goods, right? If they're enough that they can put a roof over everybody's head, surely they have enough to feed everybody. So I agree with him that the sanctions are a problem. And whenever, I don't want to say whenever, but I'm not informed enough, but almost whenever the U.S. imposes sanctions, it's the people who pay the price. It's not the government's.

So his point is well taken about the sanctions are not helping the people. But to say that just because something bad is being done to a country, therefore it's exclusively the fault of foreigners is also inaccurate. But I say that about Putin.

Right. Let me say one more example. It's like, let's suppose your spouse is cheating on you and they go in and kill her. It's like, well, you were cheating on me, so that's why I killed you. It's like, well, that gave you a pretext to do some pretty awful things. So North Korea very much uses the things that are being done against them, sometimes unfairly, as a pretext to have their level of tyranny. And this claim that they're happier than South Korea, well, North Korea has an electrified border to keep the people in. And I think...

when you allow people to choose where they want to live, that's the best way to determine who's happier and who isn't. Well, that is very intriguing to me that they have fences. Normally, you think of putting fences to keep people out. But it's true that North Korea doesn't allow their own people to travel outside their country? Oh, well, hold on. You are allowed to travel if you're lucky, but...

Some members of your family have to stay behind as hostages. So it's a very small handful of people and you have to be very high up in the government to be allowed to leave. There used to be a few people who could escape from North Korea to China because the Tumen River is very shallow between North Korea and Manchuria. But they put up a fence and then they electrified the fence. So that's kind of been eliminated completely. So that's like...

Their secret space program is being allowed to exit North Korea into the greater universe. Only very high up people even know about what other countries have. Jimmy, I mean, Kurt, you laugh, but once you've been there, it's not as funny to me because every single person who I saw when I was there is still there.

And they're not allowed to step foot in other countries. It's a felony death penalty often if you have videos from other countries and information from other countries. That's kind of fallen away as there's this big smuggling operation. South Korean soap operas and the like are very popular now in North Korea. And that's how they're getting some information about the outside world. But their whole claim is because they have this ultra nationalism, what we create is for us and what isn't for us doesn't concern us.

Yeah, right. Well, the reason I'm laughing is because we have that North Korea that we keep in our pocket, and we're going to... The whole goal is to get us like that. The whole goal of a 15-minute city is to keep you in your spot. Oh, yeah. Like...

We're a great enemy to have if you want an excuse to do something because North Korea was a great enemy to have to do the crap that America does. Remember, we said we were going to send Seth Rogen to kill that guy, Kim Jong-un, and then Trump insulted him. I don't know how that's worse than the movie they made about killing him. And then they're going to get a nuke. And then they did get a nuke, right? And then my memory goes blank. And then when I came to, we were arguing if women had dicks.

Like that's like an old enemy from a, you know, like they abandoned, uh, it's like Thanos. And then this other guy, they abandoned like these enemies keep getting recycled. And America, I guess, has been a very reliable enemy that government can have. But you know, Kurt, the reason the enemy is getting recycled in this case is because our media is so stupid and so intent on keeping everybody stupid that unless there's a narrative that we're the good guys that we're going to save the day and that's the end, they don't know how to tell the story.

North Korea has nukes. They are, at one point, the fourth largest military in the world. I'm not sure if that's the case. They regard themselves as what they call a hedgehog because it's got spines going every direction. So a hedgehog is their metaphor and stand up against much bigger countries and enemies. But we are not getting the government out of there. So the media just stops talking about it. It's just like, well, we don't have an answer for it. We can't make Biden the good guy and Trump the bad guy. So look over here. Let's talk about something else.

So, Michael, how were you able to get in and out of Korea?

So it was legal until Otto Warmbier. There's very little that the government of North Korea has to offer the outside world. So one of the things they want, because they want hard currency, their currency is very low value internationally. So they wanted RMB from China. They wanted American dollars and some other currencies. So you were allowed there under the auspices of the state. After Otto Warmbier died, the travel ban was reinstated.

Can you tell me, I don't know who Otto Ambir is. Okay, so Otto Ambir was an American kid who went to visit North Korea. He stayed in the same hotel room that I stayed in. There's a hotel that foreigners stay in. It's called the Alcatraz of Fun. It's nicknamed the Alcatraz of Fun because you stay on a hotel on an island in the middle of Pyongyang, so you can't really leave the island.

When he was there, he broke the rules very stupidly and went to another floor within that hotel. They have a secret floor. He stole a poster. They caught him. They held him hostage as they don't know people.

Things went south and he came home basically in a body bag and this was a very low moment in North Korean and American relations and after that the ban was reinstated. But here's the thing, it's just like if I'm going to go in the White House, I'm not defending them, I'm just explaining this.

If I'm going to the White House and I start stealing things, the Secret Service isn't going to pat me on the back and be like, you're a good U.S. citizen. Carry on. I mean, it's very – these people are no joke. And it's very foolish to kind of mess with them. Go ahead, Kurt. Sorry. I mean, if you just legally have Ashley Biden's diary that you went through a lawyer properly and you weren't going to print it, they'll kick your door down in the middle of the night. Like –

It really is a dumb move, but I mean, doesn't that kind of attract he, he was, he, he's not the guy that was like bringing Bibles there, right? Or is that the same? No, no, no. That was another guy. There's, there's a big movement from certain people in South Korea to try to help, you know, their North Korean brethren. Uh, and it's decreasingly successful. It's also very difficult because the

through people who made it from North Korea to South Korea where they're automatically citizens. So if they just step foot in a South Korean embassy anywhere, they're kind of home free. It's almost impossible to integrate them into South Korean society, which is very high status because first of all, their accents are very thick and it's just kind of regarded, they're like Garlice Hicks. These are people who have never seen a computer. These are people whose entire meaning of every lives has been dictated for them. So it's very hard going for them once they do manage to escape if they do.

So really, it's that bad in North Korea? It might sound like a stupid thing to say, but... It's not a stupid thing to say because so much of our media is focused on their military and war propaganda as opposed to being concerned about the populace. I mean, as night follows day, that's the case with all these other stories. So you talk about North Korea has mandatory abortions.

I've only seen mandatory abortions at the improv. Am I right? Come on. Anyway. No, those are miscarriages. What is meant by mandatory? It's not mandatory abortions. What happens is when some North Korean women escaped into China and were often captured and put in sexual slavery because China has very strict deportation orders to send them, ship them back to North Korea, and they're completely powerless and they don't often speak Chinese. If they get knocked up,

by a Chinese person North Korea is dedicated to racial purity their argument is Koreans are the only pure race on earth all other races have been intermingled through invasion or intermarriage and as the great leader Kim Il-sung the founder North Korea said not one drop of drop of ink shall be spilled in the Han River which is a river in Korea so they're very intent on maintaining their Koreanness and

So if a woman is impregnated by a Chinese man and is repatriated to North Korea, she's forcefully beaten until she loses that child because they're not going to have mixed race kids in their soil. So you're saying they're not happier than South Koreans? You know, but there is something that is that there's also ring a truth to that because they are very big on community.

They really do have this sense of looking out for one each other, the village and that kind of sense. Whereas South Korea is at one point, maybe still is, the suicide capital of the world per capita. It's the plastic surgery capital of the world per capita. So North Korea talks about this constantly. So I'm not going to get into this point of North Korea's hell, South Korea's heaven. No one has lights.

Yeah, one has liked. But what I'm saying is I feel like this is a bit of misdirection to say that South Korea is an angelic, amazing country and nothing's wrong there. I'm worried about the people in North Korea who don't have food and who live under the threat of tyranny every day.

And so they don't have food because mostly because of sanctions? Not mostly because they have no industry. Because North Korea is a very mountainous region. It's hard for them to produce crops. To produce crops, you need fertilizer. To produce fertilizer, you need oil to run the factories. If they're not having enough oil, they're not going to have enough anything else. So they also have something called Sangbun, which

which is during the 50s and 60s, there were several versions of this project. They had something called the Understanding People Project. Like all these Orwellian things, they sound great, right? I want to understand people. Jimmy, you want to understand people. So does Kurt. They interviewed every single person in the country, and they figured out what you were doing before the Korean War, or as they called it, the Fatherland Liberation War. Sorry, before the Korean War.

If you were and you were divided into three casts with, I think, 60 subcasts, favorable, hostile or wavering. This determines everything about where your life is in North Korea, including where you live. You're not allowed to step foot in Pyongyang, the capital city, unless you have a high song, but meaning your family was high status, like they fought with the greater Kim Il-sung. If your grandfather was a landowner or a priest or capitalist, forget it.

That also determines the allocation of food. So during the 90s, when the famine hit, the people in Pyongyang were the first to get food. That's where the leader lives and all the important people. Whereas the people in Northeast, which are the lowest sangbun, they're the ones who are the first to starve. Mike, wait. So is that...

This is like, so back in the day, when I would go on BuzzFeed, I would fill out a questionnaire about which sex in the city woman am I, and I would be a Samantha, because I'm starting to suspect they don't care that I was a Samantha, and they were trying to get my data to do that. I don't want to sound paranoid, but I suspect we're going to have a North Korea thing with all this data scrap. That sounds like they analog data scraped, like they did a Facebook by hand to find out who goes where, which is what we're going to have here.

I think that was just a low-key rant for you to say that you're trying to make people think you get laid a lot because you're not Samantha. Let's be honest. You're Charlotte. I know. I lied on the test because I want to be a Samantha. That's why it hurts more.

So, Michael, not to shift the subject too much, but libertarian icon Ayn Rand promoted the right to self-interest. But was her haircut really in her own self-interest? Hold on, hold on. That's a great question. I'm going to say one thing. Ayn Rand hated libertarians. She denounced them every chance she got. Really? Yes. Oh, yes. She despised them. She thought they stole her ideas and...

and did not ground them in something, so therefore they're doomed to fail. Look it up. She talks about it all the time. I don't know how you steal ideas, but here we are. That haircut, I thought it worked for her. Follow-up question. What about Rand Paul's? What about Mike Johnson? Mike Johnson, the guy who settled on a haircut when he was five? In all seriousness, doesn't Rand Paul look like he's wearing a rug? Yes. He does, but I don't think he is.

Yeah, but that's the worst of all worlds, right? Yeah, it's the worst of all worlds. It's like Ryan Grimm. Right?

Right? He looks like he's wearing a toupee, but it's actually because he cuts his own hair. Now, they call the Kim Jong-un, I remember at one point it was called the success cut or something along those lines. The reason Kim Jong-un has that haircut is because it's exactly the haircut that his grandfather, the great leader Kim Il-sung has. And Andrew Schultz has for some reason. Yeah, he's trying to harken back to an era where North Koreans were actually outcompeting South Korea.

He's trying to harken back what? To an era when North Korea was out competing South Korea and kind of the so-called golden days. Oh, Reagan's hair got us through a lot of tough times. You can't deny. You can't deny that. And look, look at what Jackson Hinkle's hair has done for the Russians. It's unbelievable. I think they made him in a lab. I think so. Uh,

Not to change the subject, but Jackson, you look like you really have been working out. You look gorgeous. Oh, my God. Piers Morgan sliding off his chair talking to Jackson Hinkle. Why are you saying that, Jackson? Why do you say that? Oh, Jackson.

So in the Anarchist Handbook, you quote anarcho-communist Mikhail Bakunin, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, as saying, nothing is more dangerous for man's private morality than the habit of command. Am I doomed, Michael? No.

Aren't corporations actually dictatorships, right? Since they parallel the hierarchy of governments, aren't wealthy capitalists and corporations just rulers by a different name? I mean, why condemn Lockheed Martin but defend ConAgra? Why is Elbit bad but Monsanto good?

Can I still drink Coors Light? By the way, Coors Light, the official beer of anarchy. I think Coors Light's the official beer of bad taste. Gender anarchy, I think they mean. What Bakunin is referring to, and I agree with him, is corporations are infinitely more dangerous when they're hand-in-hand with the government.

That's what we're seeing in America today. So if you just have some company making awful cars and you have even a semi-free press, it could be like, you get in this car, it's a death trap. That's one thing. If you have that organization with lobbyists and they're saying, you have to buy this car or else we're going to either give you a huge fine or put you in jail, that's when things get really problematic. So the difference between a corporation and the government is you do...

in most cases, have the option of exit, whereas the government, you don't have the opportunity to escape its clutches. So would you agree, though? I mean, we had Professor Wolf on and he makes the point, too, that, you know, people who hate communism because of its authoritarianism and but they embrace capitalism, which inside every big corporation is run just like a mini dictatorship, is it not?

Yes, but at the same time, they don't have the guns. So I'm not a fan of corporate America. If you look at what happened with Obamacare, if you look at what happened with the vaccines, this was corporate America in the former case forcing literally everyone in this country to be their customer via the state. And the propaganda that went on through 2020 and 2021 where these –

Organizations are somehow miraculous and you can't even sue them. That's a cartel. If they cause you any harm. A full cartel operation. That's exactly correct. So capitalism in that sense, which I'm not for, is this unholy union between corporate America and the state at the expense of both smaller independent businesses and the average citizen. You know what Rockefeller said? Competition is a sin.

Did he say that? Yeah. That's why they want to make sure they buy up everything and have these cartel monopoly. Well, not monopolies, cartel, so that no one else can compete and they run everything. So you have the contest, somebody wins, and they go, how do we make it so no one else can ever win? And then you have the media going on the air telling you that they're the good guys and it's a good thing that they won. And people tell me when they say, Jimmy, how could you...

when they see how the COVID and the vaccine mandates and all that were carried out, they go, that's your Medicare for all. I'm like, no, that's happening now. And we don't have Medicare for all. That's happening right now.

Right. That already happened without you guys having a safety net of not going bankrupt. Someone said that to you. They say it all the time. They say it in comments on Twitter. They say it in comments on the videos. They say it in comments on Facebook. They say it all over the place. It sounds like some kind of neuro-linguistic programming. This is your Medicare for all. No, this is not. That's what's happening now. That's a phrase some jerk-off put out, and then everybody spews it like Putin propaganda. Take a pic of these dogs.

But, Mike, I'm sorry. Jimmy, doesn't it make you laugh sometimes when you have to take a step back and try to reverse engineer the point that they're trying to make? Yeah. I mean, it makes me laugh and cry. Yeah. It really does. It's like, oh, I got to explain this again. And I'm all for, again, just to get back to my, I'm not for...

Anybody having control over my medical decisions. And when people think that if we had Medicare for all, all of a sudden the government would run my primary care physician's office or the hospital I go to. That's not what would happen. Those places would still be run permanently.

by private people and corporations. Right now, they're starting to be run by private equity firms, which is horrible for everybody, which is why when I went to get my skin cancer taken off my face, I couldn't even see a doctor. I had to see a nurse, a nurse practitioner twice. I went back twice. So I had two nurses. I'm like, are you out? And I find out that place is run by Wall Street. And so that's what's, that's the worst thing

That's the worst thing you can have. But I think what they're speaking about, and I'm sure you agree with, is even though these organizations are ostensibly private, it's really quick to see how badly they bend the knee at the drop of a hat at the hands of the Biden administration and big pharma.

Well, no, I'm saying that the Biden administration bends the knee to these corporations. Oh, yeah, that's true, too. So if you think that was the Biden administration running the COVID policy, they were doing it at the behest of big pharma. Yes, yes, I agree with you completely, yes. Who's the guy that got chopped? Look, when they got Choppo, that's just one tiny stupid piece of the cartel. The whole complex is all set up with

We're not going to compete and it's bad enough. It's like we all are, I don't know, oil barons and say that, but this is across every different kind of industry and

So now you're like, now I can transport my stuff because you're going to do what I say. Now I can do this. And then, of course, we have the great, the Fed, the private company, the private bank that prints and also we borrow from them, right? Yes. And they don't know how it works. Nobody knows how it works. Go ahead. The Fed is a tax on poverty.

The poor people are the first one who are effed over by the Fed because when you have inflation, if you and I or Kurt maybe lose 10% of our money, it sucks. If I'm having to put food on the table, I'll lose 10% of my money. These are radical decisions I'm going to have to make with my life. So it's the poorest people who are the most affected by inflation, and there's zero concern for them in the halls of Washington, at least on this issue.

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Right now, I want to introduce our guest. Breanne Dressen is an educator. She qualified to be a participant in the clinical trial for the AstraZeneca COVID vaccine in November 2020. She got her one and only shot, which changed her life forever. She experienced severe parathesia, blurred and double vision, extreme sound, light touch, and teeth sensitivity. Teeth sensitivity.

She was confined to her bedroom in isolation with her symptoms for months removed from her family. She's also experienced tinnitus, brain fog. Some people say tinnitus, but that's not how you say it. I don't care what. It's just like Kiev. It's Kiev, not Kiev.

You don't say ammonds? You get tonsillitis, not tonsillitis. Diabetes? Yes. So she also experienced tinnitus, brain fog, memory loss, limb weakness, motor dysfunction of her legs, and loss of her bladder control. When her legs failed her, she was, get this, when her legs failed her, the doctors diagnosed her with anxiety disorder.

Due to the COVID vaccine. Anxiety. Did you try to get another booster? She should get another booster. She was sent home with just an in-home therapist. As her condition evolved, she experienced tachycardia and blood pressure fluctuations. I had that. I had temperature dysregulation. I had that. And internal electric shocks or internal vibrations. Well, she's also...

co-founder of the React 19, which is a science-based nonprofit offering financial, physical, and emotional support for those suffering from long-term COVID-19 vaccine adverse events. Please welcome to the show, Brianne Dressen. Hey, Brianne.

Well, hey, thanks for having me. I'm glad to be here. So I just want to show people that you went from this, you went from this a happy, healthy educator and mom, a rock, look at that, mountain climber. Oh my God, I can't believe people do that. And then you ended up like this just after one shot. Yeah. Yep. That's all it took was one. And so-

So tell me about your experience, what happened and what made you decide to be part of the, you know, you volunteered for that, right? And but they also said they would take care of you if something happened. So tell me the story.

Yeah, well, I mean, you obviously were able to describe my symptoms, you know, the laundry list of symptoms that I actually still deal with most of those to this day, which is unfortunate. But so I, like you said, I was a preschool teacher, very into the outdoors. I really was one of those people that wanted to make the most of life.

And I wanted to instill that in my kids too. So I taught them how to rock climb. I taught them how to ski. I taught them, you know, how to camp and catch critters in the outdoors. And all that came to a screeching halt when COVID hit, obviously. But for us, everything changed because of the COVID vaccine. So when COVID hit, I wanted to show my kids we still can make the most of life. We still can be productive.

be part of our community and make the most of any situation. I want to teach them that cliche word resilience, but I really did. They were six and eight at the time. Right. So it was a, it was a good teaching moment for them. And I wanted to be part of the solution to get us all out of the pandemic. So it was a no brainer to me to step up and get my shot. You know, I had never had any problem with any previous vaccine and,

So it just, I didn't think twice when, you know, the call came to step up and help out our country. So you did. And then you, after one shot, you got severely vaccine injured. And of course, the FDA and the CDC tell us that vaccine adverse events are rare and

And I guess you just have to look up what the definition of rare is and then scratch your head. But because I know medium and medium rare in 1976 with the swine flu, one in 100000 adverse events per vaccine and they pulled it.

In 1999 with the coronavirus, it was one to two adverse events for 10,000 and they pulled it. With these new vaccines for COVID, it's one in 800 and they're still recommending it. It was an emergency. But that's rare. They did their best. It's rare. So when... Now...

How did when this happened, did did they gaslight you about it? Because it seemed like from what I read that they gaslit you about it, saying that your your symptoms were from anxiety. Did that really that I can't. But it's hard to believe they said that.

Yeah, so I was actually in the hospital. My legs were noodles and I was incontinent and was not able to keep any food down. I could see every rib in my body. And they drugged me up with a whole bunch of drugs, thinking it was a silent migraine.

After three days, the drugs didn't do anything because it wasn't the migraine. And so the specialist came in, sat down with me and my husband and said, you know, COVID's a really hard time. And we think that you just kind of got stressed out and you went out and got this vaccine and just had a mental breakdown. So...

I couldn't move very well. And it took everything for my husband to not jump out of the seat. But at that point, it was very, very clear that we were not going to be getting help from the medical professionals, the best in the state here, actually. So I was sent home with intensive in-home physical and occupational therapy. And yeah, that's, it's true. They said it point blank to my face.

So didn't, so you had this, I'm sure you had to sign a paper to be a part of the, the experiment, right? The trial group. And was what didn't, did the pharmaceutical company not promise to take care of you in case something like this happened?

That's actually why I decided to go through with it, to be totally honest with you, was because of those specific lines that said if something were to go wrong, they would be there to help medically and financially. And as soon as I got injured, the drug company was gone. I still, been three and a half years, I still have yet to talk to an actual person at AstraZeneca.

So that's a little different than what they committed to do in our contract. And so now you filed a lawsuit. Now, I thought it was I thought it was I thought they had immunity from lawsuits against this. Is there a loophole you found?

There is a loophole that my incredible lawyers have found. Yes. So Michael Conant, who actually, when I found out I was going to be able to come onto your show, he called me and freaked out. So he loves you. Oh, okay. Tell me his name and his law firm.

Michael Conant, and he works for Aaron Seary, so I can. Okay. He's a big-time litigator. He's gone after pharma many times. I really couldn't have gotten anybody better on this case. Fantastic. Yeah, so they went through the law, he and Aaron Seary and the team there, and the PrEP Act is incredibly protective. I'm sure you have discussed this before with your colleagues.

with your listeners, but it's, it's impenetrable protection. And it's something that I think everybody needs to understand that if you have a problem with a vaccine, a COVID vaccine, you are on your own and the federal government is not going to come and help you, period. And the reason is, is because the PrEP Act has

has provided layers of protections. Not only the drug companies are protected, your doctor who gave you the shot is protected, the hospital that you're laid up in after your reaction is protected, and even health officials, the government officials who commit willful misconduct even are protected by the PREP Act. So obviously,

obviously it's been a really frustrating experience through react 19 to try to help people find accountability right for their injuries because we have 36 000 people throughout the u.s that are injured that's all that's so registered in our membership okay it's not too bad i mean you know because we're censored left and right right so the fact that there's 36 000 of us together it's

Still a pretty modest number. Right. Yes. So Aaron Seery and Michael Connick come along and they find out that I have a contract that's signed and they are very confident that this will hold up to the prep act when challenged in court.

And it's because they signed and committed to very specific things to provide assistance if there was a problem. And they did absolutely none of what they were committed to do. And meaning they didn't take care of you medically, they didn't take care of you financially. And in fact, not only did they not take care of you, they completely ignored you and abandoned you.

Correct. And we gave them ample opportunities. I mean, we're three and a half years into this. And yeah, so I didn't have a choice at this point. Well, I guess I could have. I mean, I could roll over and die, but I'd much rather, you know, see this through to the end. And so now the big pharma funded media, uh,

uh, is not, which is every newspaper magazine and TV show, uh, TV news show. Every one of them is funded by big pharma. So that's why you have to go to places like this, correct? To get your story out. Um, has anybody reached out to you? Did Rachel Maddow or, or, or Chris Hayes or Jake Tapper or Anderson Cooper? I mean, they're, they're really good people. Did Oprah try to contact you to talk about this? Did anybody try to talk to you about this?

They don't want to have me impact their stock prices. You know that they're all invested in this. Right. So, yeah. We did have a pretty good blip in Europe on this. So, it was everywhere in the UK the last 48 hours. The UK is a little different because they're not allowed to advertise. Big Pharma is... There's only two countries in the whole world where they can advertise big.

and guess which one of them is the United States so they built thanks to Bill Clinton Bill Clinton no friend of the working man or anybody except big corporations he signed that law that made it legal for big pharma to directly advertise their people which is the craziest thing in the world it's this country in New Zealand and if you look at the two most

places that had the worst COVID policy and most draconian and turned their backs the hardest on the vaccine injured. It would be New Zealand and the United States. So you're saying you got some media coverage in Europe, did you? Yeah. And we had a couple spots, the Miami Herald, Bloomberg Law here in the United States. They were the ones that actually debuted the story.

So there's a little bit, of course. Yeah. You know, Anderson Cooper, give us a call. So now I, I,

I did see you on with Chris Cuomo, right? Now, Chris Cuomo is also originally reported he was vaccine injured. He's reported that he's taking ivermectin to treat his vaccine injury. What are they? Can you share with us some of the treatments that you've received?

Yeah, it's a long list. After my anxiety diagnosis, my husband, he's a scientist, he started reaching out to scientists all over the globe, trying to figure out what was wrong with his wife, right? And surprise, surprise, the National Institutes of Health reached out after he hit them up in January of 2021.

So if you think about where you were in January 2021, unless you were an emergency or a healthcare professional, you still had yet to get your shot. So the NIH was notified of severe side effects to the COVID vaccines in January 2021. And as such, they flew me out to the NIH along with two dozen other vaccine injured from Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, Pfizer.

And there we were all provided top of the line testing, evaluation and treatment. And so I came home with a diagnosis of post-vaccine neuropathy from the lead research institution in the country, along with a very expensive and hard to get therapy called IVIG. And essentially what that is, is 1,000 to 10,000 people's immune cells

in a bag and they infuse it into your veins. So it costs $189,000 a year. I have to get it every other week for the rest of my life. So that's the one, just one medication I'm on. And that's being paid for by the NIH? No, they did the initial loading dose and then I needed to come home

And, of course, once the NIH said I had a vaccine reaction, then my doctors took me seriously. What a coincidence. So do you go to the same doctors who didn't take you seriously? Do you still see those same doctors? No. No. Okay. No. And I've heard horror stories from several others that are vaccine injured that had to go through them as well.

So yeah, just like everybody else that you talked to, your friends and colleagues that have been injured, it took me a long time to find that one independent thinking doctor that would be willing to work with me and experiment and figure out how to bring me some measure of relief.

And so I was, can you say that doctor's name or does that doctor want to remain anonymous? They're, they're just like all the others. We've got them. We, we do have access to this doctor.

for the people that are listening who need help finding a competent doctor. The organization that I helped run, that I helped co-found is react19.org. We have a national network of providers. It's essentially an underground network. And if you contact us, we can connect you with these compassionate providers one-on-one. I was lucky. I,

I tweeted out about my vaccine injury. And first of all, a lot of people hated me for doing that. I lost a lot of friends. People think I'm a, you're going to have an underground network for this. You got to have to, is that how perverse of a place we live? Yes, dude. I can tell you, can I tell you how bad this is? Like for real? Okay. So through our advocacy organization, there was an eight year old girl that came through totally healthy before and

Ended up in a wheelchair and diapers and was crying so bad because she couldn't let anybody touch her. I know exactly what she felt like because the electrical pain is a nightmare. Can't imagine an eight-year-old child having that. Johns Hopkins committed her. They put her in the psych ward for three weeks. Her mom found us at React 19.

And she broke her child out of Johns Hopkins psych ward, took her home. And through our advocacy network, we were able to bring her to a doctor that was able to get her IVIG. Total underground network, by the way.

And under the guise of darkness, we were able to get her medication that she needed. And she walked into school in the fall of 2022 as if nothing had happened to her. Wow. That's a great story. And we took her to Washington, D.C., and we put her in front of Peter Marks, head of biologics at the FDA, and she told her story. And after she told her story, I followed up with, if it were up to the federal government,

this eight year old girl would still be in a wheelchair and diapers. But because she found some random people on the internet that happened to have the secrets of the NIH, she was able to walk into school. Fine. Right. So Peter Marks's response was, we don't have any secrets here. Ah,

Well, that's amazing that your school can help you fully transition genders behind your parents' back, but you have to go underground if you had a side effect from the safe effect of boosters that helps slow the spread. So I was lucky because my primary care physician-

When I tweeted about it, a doctor who follows me on Twitter was running a research project to try to figure out how to treat people who were vaccine injured. He contacted me, Dr. Uganda, and he worked together with my primary care physician who was already treating five people that were vaccine injured. And she said three of them were nurses and two of them were doctors and none of them will talk about it.

Because if they talk about it, it means career suicide. And so I can't believe that that's the way it is. But of course, it's all about money. And money runs everything in the United States. And so I was very lucky that my primary care physician was on board with me.

And she was willing to work with Dr. Uganda. And now I'm under the care of Dr. Pierre Corey, who was a pioneer in treating people who had COVID and vaccine injured. So what is your lawyer? What's his name again? Michael Conant.

So what does he think your chances are of, what are you suing for? You're suing for a lifetime. So who, by the way, who pays for your medicine now? Is it your insurance company? It's me and my insurance. Oh, so yeah, because my insurance covers most of it, right? It's still expensive. So we had to refinance our house.

To pay for my medical expenses because AstraZeneca was off, you know. Anyway, it's been really bad, really bad. So that's what you're suing for. Are you suing for your medical expenses or are you also able to sue for, you know, pain and suffering?

So in contract law specifically, there is a clause that if the person doesn't, if their violation of the contract results in undue harm and suffering, then you can go after them for additional damages.

So the lawyers that I have, they don't just file lawsuits for fun. They only file lawsuits that have a very, very strong reason that it's going to go somewhere. Okay. And so when did you file? Monday. Monday. 48 hours ago. Okay. Wow.

The game is that the lawyers for the big pharma have endless amounts of money and they're going to try and drag this out for probably at least 10 years, if not longer. And, um, but, uh, you know, I'm alive to see it, you know? Yes. And so, so did you have, when you got vaccine injured, did you have, did, did, did, what happened to your social circle? Did people believe you? Did they not believe you? Did, did people treat you like a pariah? Were they sympathetic? What, what happened?

So this is interesting because when I first got ill, I was so sick. I couldn't talk to people about it. I was just trying to survive literally every single day. So nobody knew the parents of the kids that I taught in my preschool. They didn't even know. Right. There was a select group of people in my community, in my neighborhood that, you know, would come and take my kids every day, you know, to keep literally keep them alive because they were tiny kids.

They knew and that was it. So people knew who I was before. They all believed me. But I definitely, when I went public,

Yeah, I lost friends. I lost several people in my community. And you understand because if you're dealing with a chronic illness and it's a new disease and you're afraid and you just need your community, you need someone that can reach out and use their knowledge, their connections to help figure this out so you can get your life back. And then to just for whatever reason people haphazardly

shut that door, you know, and never talk to you again. Yeah, it stings, but I'm sure you're probably like me where at the end of the day, I'm like, oh, they were not my people. That's correct. They were hanging out for the wrong reasons. And my life is so much better without them. Yes, that's how I feel. Yes. It was interesting to me that even people who believed me

that I was vaccine injured, they still wanted me to shut up because they were still under the impression that the vaccine worked the way they said it would, that it would end the pandemic and it would stop transmission and contraction of the virus and it would protect everybody.

That's what they thought. And so even though it was injuring me, they wanted me to shut up about it because they thought they were afraid it would make other people hesitant to get their vaccine. And then we'd never get out of the pandemic. Well, guess what? The coronavirus is never going away. And I knew that in early 2021 because I talked to Dr. Robert Malone. Now,

No other, and so did Joe Rogan, but nobody else would. Nobody, again, Anderson Cooper, Chris Cuomo, Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, and none of those people would interview anybody who had a contradictory point of view or different information. And that's not how science works, right? Science is a method.

People go, trust the science. Science is a method to finding out the truth. Science isn't the truth, right? You always question science. You never stop questioning. But they made people ashamed to question that. If you question it, somehow now you are a dummy. It was the exact opposite of how real life works. You're supposed to always question things, especially science. That's how science moves forward, correct? Absolutely. I mean, like I said before, my husband's a scientist.

Science is to be tested and it's to be tested again and again and again. And if we're going to restructure everybody, which is what they tried to do, get everybody to think that science is a religion, that it should just be blindly trusted. We've got serious problems. If we want to be the leading country in the world in the realm of research, we need to follow the science process.

as it should be, as in test it over and over and over, be open enough to examine all of the possibilities. If we're going to be running a politicized, very narrow angle of science, we're going to end up like Russia in the 90s. You know, it's just like, come on, we have some of the brightest and best minds in the world, in this country. And I only know this because I've been seeped in this with my husband's community for a long time.

those educated nerds the ability to do what they can do and make incredible discoveries, advance medicine in ways that we're all depending on at this point because we're all sick, right? Stop. We've got to get politics out of the research communities and we've got to get politics out of the doctor's office. Those things, you know, but unfortunately I don't see either of those happening anytime soon. Well, according to the CDC and the FDA, uh,

and the WHO, what happened to you and what happened to me is very rare and that the vaccines are still considered safe and effective.

And they don't stop the transmission or contraction of the virus, but they certainly slow it and they'll keep you from getting seriously ill, hospitalized or dead. That's according to the CDC and the FDA. I was going to say, tell her that because I like this talk she was doing. Yeah, I don't like her talk either way. She's got a smart mouth.

And I don't know if you've talked to anybody over at the FDA or CDC, but they will let you know that what happened to you is rare. It might not be Brazil. Terrorist! She's a terrorist! Even though they had to change it. Go ahead. I've been called that. I'm sure you have. Oh, come on. Oh. You know, I'm getting sick of all my not even that good of jokes that I casually toss aside becoming real things before my eyes. That's right. Oh, it's a real thing. It's a real thing.

The hate is intense. I don't blame people. I do not blame people at all who are injured that don't speak out because the repercussions are so bad when you speak out. You've got to be better.

I've had people in media, as soon as I started speaking out about what happened to me, I had people would contact me and say, please don't tell my name, but I'm suffering from pericarditis or myocarditis. And that was the most common one that people would tell me. But, you know, I had, you know, I have what they call an occipital neurology, which is nerve damage. And I went to a neurologist. I had to wait two months to see a neurologist who was horrible. And I told him, I said, yeah, I have nerve damage.

And he said, that's not what it's from. And he just saw it like that without even examining me. He goes, it's not from the vaccine. He just said it just like that. I was like, oh, this guy. Oh, I knew he was a jamoke because when I walked in, he was wearing a mask. And I had to wear my mask to go see him. And he said, are you vaccinated? And I said, yes, I'm double vaccinated. He goes, okay, good. Then we can take off our masks.

And I knew this guy never made any sense. If you hadn't been, he would have vaccinated you and hit a button that went to Mark. The next was like 700 bucks a head. Yeah. It never made sense.

That if someone if I was vaccinated, I would need you and it works. Why would I need someone else to take the vaccine to protect me? That never made sense. Doesn't make sense. But that's how fear works. They just scare people enough that they can say nonsensical things like that and people will believe it. I still see I went to the pet store yesterday and.

And there's a lady walking down the aisle with her masks on. I don't think that's fun. It's like you accidentally walked into a Renaissance fair with normal clothes. And you're transported to another time.

um here's what i do blame if you got vax injured and you're attacking people still which i've seen then i don't let up on you if you got injured and you're scared to come out that's one thing yeah i know somebody who got their some with their eye it's so crazy what happened and they're like you idiot they're still they're still mad at people that didn't get it i like you're an idiot i mean you're an idiot if you're doing that well i like i saw conan o'brien doing an interview with um

Bill Burr and Bill Burr by his, his opening act. I forget his name. He also was ashamed me and said, he, you got to trust the science and, you know, just revealing what a moron he was. I did not feel ashamed. I felt sorry for him and how stupid he was. He shamed himself, Jimmy. And now, and now I know why he opens. Bill Burr, great job. Bill Maher in Israel. He did a great job. As bad as he was on mass and vax. It was that great with Bill Maher. I'm going to show that video later of Bill, Bill Burr on Bill Maher. It was great. Um,

Anyway, I saw Conan O'Brien talk about how he got shingles. Now, I remember one of the first times I went on stage in Los Angeles and I did jokes about my vaccine injury. When I came off, there was a very famous female comedian who I won't name. She came over to me and said that she had gotten shingles in her eye after. And Conan O'Brien said he got the same thing, shingles in his eye.

And still can't make it. He can't put two. It's so funny. He's just, oh, boy. And well, should have got your shingles vaccine, I guess. Anyway, well, I wish you all the luck in the world. Is there anything else that I forgot to ask you that you want me to ask? No, not really. I mean, if there's.

If there's people out there that are like us, you know, that really are struggling, if they need community, if they need a doctor, also if they need financial support, we do have a financial support program. Please reach out to us. We're here to help people. We are essentially doing the government's job to

We would like to not exist if the government was doing their job and helping these people, then we wouldn't exist. But otherwise, we're here to help. So reach out to us at react19.org. We're 100% volunteer. It's basically it's founded by the injured for the injured. And the whole purpose of what we do is to change our negative reactions into positive action.

- Great, great. - What's the name of the group again? - React19.org, React19.org. That's the name of the group.

All right. Well, thanks you for establishing that. Thanks for speaking out. And I'm glad to see you're doing much better, even though you're still suffering and probably have to take treatment for the rest of your life. Hey, this is a real democracy, right? Where if you got injured by a mandatory experimental thing, you have to go underground like the goddamn 18. That means we have a real country and a real democracy, right? Yeah. That means voting. It's alarming. It's it's very when when you get a front row seat to the shit show,

Sorry, is that bad? Yeah. Like we have. The state of the country, it's not good, is it? It hasn't been for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I talk about how when I tell people I got vaccine injured, people get angry at me. They go, yeah, I got the vaccine. I'm fine.

That's how they react. So anyway. Shut up about Father Tom touching you. He's a good man. What did you do to get injured? I went through. Yes, that's exactly. That's a very good analogy, Kurt, because I also grew up Catholic and we had pedophile priests at my parish. That's normal, too. And you weren't allowed to talk about it. We used to call him Happy Hands Hollihan.

And if you call them happy hands, why? Because he was always grabbing you in your private parts and your genitalia. And we called them happy hands. And if you got caught calling him happy hands, the adults would you get in trouble? Yeah, it didn't make them go, hey, why are all the kids calling? So if you got molested, you get in trouble. Yeah, that was your fault. Your fault.

And priests need our prayers more than anybody. As does Pfizer. Yes. All right. Brianne Dressen, I really appreciate that. Good to talk to you. Please keep us updated on your case and say hi to your lawyer for us. Oh, oh, he's going to be thrilled that I got to talk to you. Okay. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Okay. Talk to you soon. Bye-bye. Thank you. Hey, become a premium member. Go to JimmyDoreComedy.com. Sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. Freak out. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.

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