Max Blumenthal & Aaron Mate TURN TABLES On Washington Post Propagandist!
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This is the Jimmy Dore show. Russell speaking. Who is this? How's it hanging, Russell? This is President Joe Biden. Joe Biden. Well, you're sounding very clear for President Biden. Thanks for calling. What's new?

I'll tell you what's new. 2024. That's the year we're in, and the year I'm going to be re-elected for the second time. And Russell, things are going great. Really? Is that so? Yes, it is. Just the other day I gave a speech at a black church because my support among blacks is lagging. And when white politicians show up at their churches, that always wins their trust. Okay.

How did that go? Oh, no?

Oh no. It was the Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina, the site of one of the most vicious racially motivated mass murders in US history. So the messaging here was crystal clear, elegant, and poignant. Indeed. You see, Russell, last time I ran, my strategy was to blurt out, "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black." And some people saw this as a mistake.

According to my team, that alienated black voters and made it appear that I took their support for granted. I would imagine so. Yeah, see, that wouldn't have occurred to me personally. That's why I have a team in the first place, to point these things out. So they advised this time an extremely direct, ham-fisted overture to the black community instead. How was that received?

Oh, Russell, it went over real well. He seemed to buy the whole thing. There was one little hiccup, though. Oh, yeah? What was that? Well, I got interrupted by protesters. Oh, yeah. These troublesome no-goodniks were young and naive and had no idea what they were talking about. What happened exactly?

Well, he gave my little speech there and these boneheads started yelling about Gaza. You know, these are the type of idiots who want to cease fire. Can you imagine? Cease fire. What a crock of shit. So anyway, they were screaming for that and then they got escorted out like the troublemakers and agitators they are. Okay. All right. It was so disgraceful, Russell, and disrespectful to invade a house of worship.

You don't see a little irony there, Mr. President?

No. For a minute there, I was all worried about how the crowd would react. But you know what they did, Russell? They started chanting four more years in response to this act of disruption. You know why? Why?

Because they're good Democrats. And they know that loyalty to party trumps everything else, so to speak. And I know that electing me is more important than me being complicit in crimes against humanity. Actually, if Trump won, he would probably have the exact same Israel policy that you do.

Exactly. And people know this. So it's better to have a Democrat overseeing ethnic cleansing of an oppressed population than a cruel man like Donald Trump.

because Democrats are way cooler about trans people and other stuff. I see. I see. That's true. That's true. So the point is, this whole thing was a really good sign for my reelection campaign. Being interrupted at a public event by people protesting genocide who represent the views of young people and minorities in this country, two demographics Democrats usually rely on? It's hard to see that as a good thing.

Oh, yeah, not if you put a bad spin on it like that. Doesn't look good at all. But I am paying attention to what the bubble around me thinks. Diehard Dems. Those are my guys and gals right there. Well, best of luck is, I guess, all I can say to you, Mr. President. That's right. That is all you can say. Because nothing anyone says about anything will ever change my mind. That's leadership right there.

Well, I got to go. It was nice talking to you. Maybe we can chat again sometime. Yeah, I'll be here next week. Then Jimmy will be coming back.

Jimmy who? Have I called you before? God damn it, people just hand me the phone and I start talking and I don't know what I'm doing. If you recorded this, please delete it and also don't put it on the internet for God's sakes. Anyways, time for nap number three. I'm heading over to the nap pod. See you later. Vote for me! Four more years. Music

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All right, so we are joined by Max Blumenthal. You all know him. Max Blumenthal is an award-winning journalist as well as the editor-in-chief and founder of the independent investigative news website, The Gray Zone. He's also the best-selling author of several books, including Goliath, The 51 Day War, and The Management of Savagery. Max, welcome. Thanks for coming on. Good to see you. Good to see you. Glad to be back.

Yes. All right. So I sent you an email. So we're just going to cover the MCU today. So you saw the Marvels, right? Are you screwing with that? I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Yeah. No, my volume. They show that to those sad looking middle aged men in that Ukrainian video. Well, yeah, they showed it right before she started singing. I know. All right. So you what is the MCU? That's the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Okay. Yeah. Now that is a man dedicated to his work. Don't pretend you don't know what it is. Yeah, he's pretending, man. I only know about the MIC.

Yeah, I see. That's right. He's dedicated. He's dedicated. That's who you want exposing the deep state. Did you not see Black Panther where the guy from The Hobbit or the office of British One played the kindly CIA agent who wants to help this advance? Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, Max. Actually, I will say this because

The M.I.C. is so involved in rewriting the screenplays for these movies in order to give people the impression that the CIA is our friend that you could expand your beat out to that just from that angle.

But you and Aaron had some fun with the Washington Post this weekend. So the Washington Post was preparing to do a hit piece on the gray zone, on you guys, and on the electronic intifada. Now, it says quite a lot about the Washington Post that you would have

A virulent Zionist, even writing this story. So we have from from this, the editor in chief of Electronic Intifada, Ali Abu Namaa.

When Washington's Post's Liza Dwoskin was at Columbia, she denied Nakba, claiming there was no Palestinian nation and Palestine with hundreds of villages and cities was home to just a few, quote, desert Bedouins.

That's who's assigned to write about Intifada. And here we see in the Columbia Spectator, it is one thing to come out against abuses. This was her academic writing at Columbia. And another to indict the state of Israel for an illegitimate existence.

As the gift of the British, who only got the territory as a result of a colonial war, one can see Israel as existing on stolen land. But stolen from whom? Before the British swept in, there was no Palestinian nation. The territory was taken from the ailing Ottoman Empire and consisted of desert Bedouins without a sense of national identity as we know it today. I guess if you cram them in that one space, they may have developed that.

Yeah, Max, you want to tell us briefly what's wrong with that analysis? Because there's a very common myth among Zionists, a land without a people for a people without a land. So that's completely untrue then? Well, there, I mean, that's just the Zionist justification there.

for the Nakba that even Theodor Herzl, the guru of Zionism, understood that the Palestinians were a real political entity and a cultural and social coherent entity. And so too did Zev Jabotinsky, who's sort of the ideological godfather of Netanyahu. He wrote a whole paper called The Iron Wall, which basically argued that the

Jewish colonists who had come to the land of Palestine wouldn't be able to form a nation without an iron wall of bayonets, which is basically acknowledging that there's a real people there and a real nation that is going to resist them if they try to dominate them. So this is like 2023 right now. I don't know when Liza Dvaskin wrote that, but I assume it's

in the modern or postmodern era when we understand that colonialism is wrong and she's still trying to justify it in a college paper. I mean, this is just weird and anachronistic and the Washington Post hires her as their social media reporter. I mean, this is the important background on her. They hire her as the social media reporter. So what does that mean in a newspaper like the Washington Post or the New York Times or Bloomberg? It means that she's basically a tool

for the intelligence services in the censorship industrial complex and her job is to punch down at dissenters and paint them all as a secret as puppets of Russian meddling or in this case she's going after Palestinian disinformation is what she thinks she's doing instead of going after

the powerful apartheid state that she obviously has a great affinity for. She's not going to go against her parents. Yeah. Max, do you have any problems with your relatives or are they all on board? Maybe like distant family, but they kind of know they're going to lose the argument. So they stay. I wasn't really like raised Zionist. I was raised, you know, I went to Hebrew school and was raised around a lot of Jewish people. But my...

immediate family didn't really tell me, you have to love Israel. I think they're all pretty uncomfortable. There was always like a level of discomfort about it because, I mean, why wouldn't you be if you're a decent person? Well, let me ask you something, actually, because this is something I keep meaning to research. And as you know, the world is on fire and there's so much to keep up with. It's very hard to do any extracurricular research. My experience of Hebrew school is that it's Zionist training camp.

And I talked to Katie Halper about this. She seemed to confirm that. Was that your experience? I mean, my experience was they teach you Hebrew and Zionism and that's it. No, I mean, it really wasn't. We got more of the Holocaust experience. One of my teachers survived a death camp. And so, you know, one day I come in after school and it's like I already had like this

It's raining. It's dreary out. And she just comes in the room and starts talking about a death camp and the men and the women and children being divided. Just for two hours, I was treated to a real horror story. And it actually traumatized me. But – and it was –

I mean, it's real stuff. What about the pasture of the Christ? How did that make you feel? Wow. Yeah, well, then I felt so guilty for killing Jesus after watching the Miltons.

My friend growing up used to say that the passion of the grave. I forgave Hitler after I saw that. He should have stayed in India. It seemed like a good idea at the time, what we did to Jesus. It seemed like the right idea at the time. But a lot of people were into it. In hindsight, a lot of people were into it. The Holocaust, when you learn about it and you get it in your psychological bloodstream, it can go either way.

And it's like, what lessons do you want to take away from it? The Jews that are protesting this genocidal slaughter, what I call the Gaza Holocaust, that are protesting it, shutting down the Capitol, they're taking the lesson of never again to anyone. That's kind of the lesson that was imparted to me.

I thought it was that. It was not that, I guess. Well, you see, at Hebrew school, they talked a lot about the Holocaust, but because of the Holocaust, you had to be a Zionist, which is very much what you hear from Zionists. Yeah, I mean, that's the message. Steven Spielberg, who was at the Golden Globes last night where the Gaza Holocaust was not mentioned once, Steven Spielberg put that forward in Schindler's List. It's like the ultimate Holocaust movie that really consolidated –

The narrative, the Zionist narrative of the Holocaust in American popular culture, which is, you know, just you're treated to endless horrors throughout this film. And then at the end, it's no longer in black and white. It's in color. And the survivors are in Jerusalem and they're going to Yad Vashem.

uh which where you can actually see the village of deriasin the site of one of the worst massacres of the of the nakba you can see it from there and they're going there and it's basically like israel is our deliverance from the holocaust that's the spielberg mainstream message and now he lives there exactly yeah he loves it so much there it's because it's such a it's such a safe place to be a jew yeah i mean leaving aside the fact that you can get rocketed

taken captive because you're like living next door to a open air prison camp for the captive natives. Leaving all that aside, Israelis are the worst drivers on the planet

They have like one of the highest rates of car accident deaths on the planet because they drive like they're driving tanks or like they're going to drive over a Palestinian's car in a tank.

I was an Uber driver. I used to drive through a Hasidic neighborhood. Literally, this is not a joke. I went to drop a woman off at a hospital. I pull up. I have to double park because there's a car parked next to the thing. This guy tries to drive between us. I mean, there was not three feet between cars like he was going to crash into. He just comes full speed honking the horn. I had to honk my horn. I got it. I said, what the hell are you doing? There's literally three feet between these cars. Your plan is to just barrel through the cars. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you see a Hasidic guy in a... He was going to park the cars. He was occupying your parking space. That was obviously his plan. The Hasids are all about business. I mean, when you see him barreling through in their minivan, you just get out of the way. They got somewhere to be. Oh, yeah. So now, when you look through this reporter's Twitter, as a lot of people have done now, it's remarkable. It's remarkable that she would be assigned to cover this story. She's retweeting Barry Weiss's

She's just retweeting the most absolutely extreme, insane Zionist talking points to the degree that if you were a newspaper who cared at all about truthful reporting, her Twitter alone would be grounds for firing unless you want to put her on the food desk or something.

She can cover hot cuisine. Have you seen the other New York Times people? Well, this is WAPO, not that the Times is any better. Oh, I'm sorry, WAPO. Have you seen the other Washington Post articles? So she was about to do a hit piece. How did you guys get word of the hit piece? Did she send you an email? Hey, I'm going to...

Question your credibility because there was an email involved, right? Exactly. Yeah. And she basically said just that. She said, this is a piece about you minimizing the atrocities of October 7th. She literally wrote that to you?

And she said you have been one of the main outlets writing about how Israelis were killed on October 7th by the Israeli military, which is something that happened. That happened. Wait, what? It's not even questionable. It's not even it's not even up for debate. Israel's government. Why can't you? OK. All right. Yeah.

And so I didn't even know she had emailed me, even though my direct messages on Twitter X are open. That would have been the best way to reach me. But she sent it to our public email, and I don't think she expected me to call or email back. But she did write a longer email to Ali Abunimah at Electronic Intifada, and it was like, you are responsible for convincing masses of people that Israel killed everybody on October 7th.

And that the Hamas attack didn't even happen. Essentially, that's what she was implying. And that we were spreaders of disinformation and conspiracy theorists. And, you know, the whole playbook of these downward punching lackeys for the intelligence services and the deep state. That's basically what she was going to do. So Ali wrote a really...

devastating response to her in print and published it on Twitter. And I saw it and I said, wait a minute, I bet you she's gunning for us too. So I checked our public email where I diligently try to respond to everyone like Noam Chomsky does. And there she was, Liza Davoskin, calling us minimizers of atrocities. What does that mean to you?

First degree minimizing. Yes, exactly. Yeah. I mean, we would have, we, I wanted to find out. So that's why I called her. All right. So let's, uh, let's take a look at the beginning of this phone call. I'm just gonna, uh,

Take a look at our first reaction and then we'll get into the meat of it. It's weird. I'm here and I'm like, I'm the same guy. Yeah. Hello? Yeah. Hi. Is this Elizabeth Dvoskin? May I ask who's calling? Yeah. Hi. It's Max Blumenthal from the Gray Zone and I'm here with my colleague, Aaron Mate. Oh, okay. Thank you so much for calling. Sure. Yeah.

You wanted to talk about our factual journalism? I want to interview for my piece. Yeah, I got an email from you accusing us of minimizing the atrocities on October 7th.

Okay, so this was just her initial reactions. And so she dodges you. She's got another interview. And then you really get into it, questioning whether or not she's a Zionist. Wait a minute. You can kind of hear her chewing. She's like eating Sabra hummus or something. It's almost 5 p.m. on a Friday. I'm on tribe at this point. And she picks up at 4.58 a.m.

And she says that she has a call right then and there, which a work call that's so important. So why would you pick up your phone?

Is it really normal to be like chowing down right before you have an important work call? And how many people who work nine to five have an important work call at 5 p.m. on Friday? So I just don't believe that she had another call. Well, at first she ducked you because you called her twice, right? At first she didn't pick up. And you're like, let's try again. And then she picked up. Yeah. All right. So now you ask her the million dollar question.

You have minimized the Nakba of Palestinians writing for Columbia University's paper. You describe them as just a bunch of desert Bedouins. Are you a Zionist? You know, I'm not sure. I mean, I see you retweeting Barry Weiss, who's a major supporter of the Israeli genocide in Gaza. And I need to know, are you ideologically committed to the system of Zionism? And it's very curious that someone like that would be assigned to this story.

And it's also curious to me that the Washington Post refuses to investigate the real story and hold accountable this powerful apartheid state and is instead attacking independent journalists. You are afflicting the afflicted and comforting the powerful as the Washington Post has traditionally done. So why should we even trust you to set up some kind of call?

I mean, that is completely up to you to do so. Are you a Zionist? That is completely up to you to set up a call. This isn't about any personal biases, ideologies. Do you support Israel's military campaign in Gaza?

Excuse me, I feel like you're interrogating me and my other call is starting. You deserve to be interrogated. It's highly inappropriate that someone who seems to have such deep affection for an apartheid state committing genocide would be assigned to this story and is attacking independent journalists who produced factual journalism on a major scandal instead of holding a

holding to account the state and military responsible for that scandal. And by the way, why is the Washington Post always minimizing genocide, the attack on the Maghazi refugee camp? It was referred to as just strikes against Hamas in the Washington Post. Okay, can you explain that? Yeah, Israel dropped GBU 2,000-pound bunker buster bombs on a densely populated refugee camp, killed 70 people,

In one strike with there's no military value at all. They just did it for fun. And then they went and said, yeah, we did it, but we used the wrong weapon. We needed, we wanted to use a smaller bomb. So the Washington post headline was, I literally said that, you know, what minimizes what, what was done to those innocent Israelis killing double 10 times the number of people that tends to minimize the initial,

Yeah, you know, and I got to say, the more I looked into this, why are you having a music festival next to a concentration camp? Why are you why is really like you can enjoy yourself knowing that these people are locked in on the other side of the wall?

Yeah. I mean, you can literally see electrified fencing with machine gun turrets on top. That's probably why it felt comfortable. Looked pretty secure. Yeah. Yeah. This looks, seems safe. It's like the ultimate gated community, but not a bug. As a side note, I actually went to a classical music concert held on the frontier of Gaza by one of the most famous Israeli conductors. I covered it.

And their aim was to blast classical music, Beethoven into Gaza and hopefully convince them to become more civilized and release this one Israeli captive that they had who was a soldier, Gilad Shalit. And they ultimately did release him in exchange for a thousand prisoners. Yeah, that was the big prisoner exchange, right.

So maybe the Beethoven worked, as Kurt said, but highly bizarre colonial insanity is present in Israel all the time. So anyway, yeah. Where were we in the call? Okay. So the Washington Post headline of that massacre was Israel deepens strikes against Hamas or intensifies strikes against Hamas. It wasn't Israel massacres 70 civilians for no reason.

Dresden. Right. These are blasts, right? Oh, blasts, yeah. Has blasts now? All right. Where is the report on all of the Israeli social media posts, the TikTok posts celebrating the genocide of Gaza, mocking people in Gaza for having their water and energy turned off, the Israeli soldiers in Gaza proudly committing war crimes on TikTok, broadcasting it to the world? Have you written one story about that as the social media reporter?

So feel free to send me anything, any articles or clips. Feel free to answer the question. Feel free to send me any articles or clips. See, this is why nobody trusts corporate media and why they're reading electronic intifada in the gray zone, because you can't even answer these questions. You can't even tell us about your own Zionism and why you're doing this hit piece.

I'm really just taken aback. Why? I'm taken aback. Okay, well, I apologize for being taken aback, but I feel like the next step, the natural step that anyone does when one is interviewing a story subject is, or anyone who's mentioned or has a reference in a story, is to talk a whole thing through, to schedule a time and talk it through. So that's all I'm saying. You didn't even ask me in the email to schedule a time or talk it through.

So I apologize. You could have sent questions. Because I'm running late to another call. So I'll send a follow-up email to your email with suggestions sometimes. Does that work? Do you still believe that Palestinians, that the people of Palestine were just desert Bedouins before Israel? Okay. Liza...

Davoskin of the Washington Post has hung up on us. That was the limit. Do you think she's even like this kind of chick that works at Washington Post, where the great Taylor Lorenz works? I was thinking of Taylor Lorenz through this entire thing. They're all like the fish speakers from Doom. You don't have to even tell them what the plan is. They're already pre-programmed to carry it out no matter what. Those are the only people who get those jobs.

Right. So it's a great point. Did she ever. She emailed you. Right. She emailed you. And then she. So what was she so taken aback for? Did she not expect you to reach out? Did she not expect you to call her? Like, how is she expecting that to go? I think she expected us to.

to seek her legitimization that like we would want her to, um, we would want to be treated with respect by her and to be seen in a positive light by the Washington post art audience and that we wouldn't treat her and the billionaire owned post as an enemy of the people, um, which is how we see the whole corporate media. Um,

So she thought you were going to call up and say, what can we do to straighten this out? Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I think you're misunderstanding us. And it's just like, no, I'm just going to – if you're in the corporate media and you want to write a hit piece about us, the only way that you're going to hear from me is when I'm going to put a middle finger in your face in front of everyone because that's –

Because that's what people need to see and feel in this moment. The corporate media is complicit in this genocide. They helped Israel consolidate the narrative that they needed to gain the political support to carry out the most heinous slaughter of children and civilians and mothers and fathers we've ever seen in our life in order to maintain an apartheid system and a permanent occupation that

And they deserve every bit of contempt that the public wants to give them. You're minimizing what was done by Hamas right now. Do you condemn Hamas? Yeah. Yeah.

Every question, the only questions that we're supposed to answer as independent media or average people or activists, the only questions that we're allowed to answer are ones that compel you to display your obedience to power. So do you condemn Hamas?

There's only one right answer to that question. And when you say yes, it means you comply with the apartheid Israel and Palestinians have no right to resist at all and you just bow down. There's no thinking allowed, there's no context, there's no history. Turn off your brains, be stupid.

Let Netanyahu and his genocide machine just roll on through. And that's Liza Davoskin's job. I condemn Hamas so much that I condemn Bibi for paying them and keeping them afloat all these years. Before you even get to the battle, like, oh, they're terrible, right? Why were you propping them up? Your prime minister? Openly?

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And it's a great way to help put your thumb back in the eye of the bastards. Thanks for everybody who was already a premium member. And if you haven't, you're missing out. We give you lots of bonus content. Thanks for your support. A friend of show, Michael Rappaport is once again, be clowning himself like he does. Um, but,

But I feel like in this clip, he shows an incredible level of self-awareness I haven't seen from him before because he actually says, I don't get easily embarrassed. I didn't think he had that kind of insight into himself because if he were easily embarrassed, he would shut the fuck up and know that he's making a fool out of himself. He's getting paid to do it. Every time he opens his mouth, he might be. Nobody else is going to pay him. Spike's not going to use him anymore.

Listen, I watched him, I swear to God, talk about Gaza. And he is a slimy thing, I thought. He goes, I hate to say it. I hate to say it. The hostages are probably already dead. We should just go in there. So he's, that's like a level of awareness that he's a paid show. He's one of the stupidest public figures I can think of.

So Michael Rapaport here says, I'm so disappointed, embarrassed that not one person said anything at the Golden Globes. There's men and women the same age as so many of those young actors.

Not one mention with billion dollar Barbie feminism and all these conscious actor dudes who wear nail polish. Oh, little, little, little gay bashing there. He's getting nothing like at this point. He's just saying, fuck it, I guess, because you say shit like that. He, you can say whatever you want about Israel. He'll never work again. You start talking that shit. What those folks start talking about men and nail polish as a slur. Yeah.

He's never going to work in Hollywood again. I mean, those are not the third rail. No, no, I'm saying I'm saying he could say whatever he wants about Israel. He'll still work. You start talking about men and nail polish as a negative. You'll never work in that town again, as they say. But he's not. They're supposed to be so moral. And all these conscious actor dudes who wear nail polish. Yeah, that's a that's that's a slam. He's he's slamming wokeness and gender and all that. I can't wear that nail polish.

I wish you fucking Gaza to throw you off of fucking Melbourne. I wish you fucking Gaza. I hope to fucking know you're fucking the appallation.

I can't believe Joe Coy didn't say nothing. You want to put on a fucking cock ring and you want to buy a goat and you want to bring it home and nobody asked nothing, no questions. You got to come to Israel, my friend. You want to get a pound of animal stimulant and a couple of cows in your backyard and have a good time. You got to come over to Tel Aviv.

All right. So that's the bet. Two Misha. No, I'm kidding. All right. So let's see what he had to say. I am embarrassed. I'm embarrassed, literally. And it takes a lot for me to get embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that now one person said one thing, unless I'm mistaking, at the Golden Globes the other night about the 133 hostages that were kidnapped in broad daylight from Israel on October 7th. All that stuff.

billion dollar barbie feminism and all these young conscious actors and actresses and there's hostages that are the exact same age as them and not okay so dead so so what so what about the people being slaughtered in gaza who are the exact same age as them don't pretend i hate to i hate to say this but michael rapaport actually has a point it's just the wrong point

You know, Ryan Long did a great video about this, about how all of the actors. Yeah, right. When this first broke out, I could see it. I could see it because I still know a lot of actors. Yeah, they're they were trying to find where they're supposed to be. I could see them doing it. And then when they figured out it's a no win situation.

For them, if they side with Palestine, there's going to be Zionists who are never going to hire them. If they go full Israel, they're probably going to get a lot of censure from their peers because most of those actors actually are pro-Palestine, but they don't want to say it. Yeah, of course. So...

Silence. You follow Alyssa Milano? Dave Chappelle drops a special. All these motherfuckers have a lot to say about it. They have not said one goddamn thing about Palestine. So he's right, just from the wrong angle. They will not talk about this because in the end, like you said the other day, they're whores.

They're whores. They're not going to put themselves in a position where somebody who is supporting a genocide might want to cast them in an out of town production of the music, man. So they won't say a fucking thing about a genocide in their lifetime. Yeah.

But they want to tell you all about what they think about Ricky Gervais. Yeah, right. Well, at least he's getting paid by Israel. Yeah, they're virtue signaling hypocrites for the reason that you said. They'll take up every cause except the cause of the day, right? I mean it shows how hypocritical and shallow they are that not every single one of them had a free Gaza button on when they went up to take their fucking –

Gold award. I wouldn't dare. Also shows how how Israel has completely lost the PR war that Hollywood will not show support for Israel three months after October 7th. Well, that's true. That's true. That's a great point. That's true. Yeah. If this had been 20 years ago.

They all would have been up there with little blue ribbons on little blue and white ribbons. Yeah, it would have been mandatory, mandatory blue and white dress code. I mean, the tablecloths would have been blue with the fucking place. Yeah, sure. You would add Meryl Streep up there. Meryl Streep. We should have Meryl Streep. Now we've got Kurt's porn name. Yeah.

Card is good. All right. So let's see what else Mr. Rappaport had to say. One actor, not one director, not one producer, not one comedian. Nobody said anything before the Golden Globes, after the Golden Globes, during the Golden Globes. Not one person said anything.

I'm not naming names because nobody said anything. I can't name names the entire... I don't know what's going on, but I will say on behalf of actors, I apologize for them. I apologize for them. I apologize to Israel. I apologize to the hostage families. I apologize to the victims on their behalf. Excuse their ignorance.

or their fear or whatever was going on because Hollywood actors, artists are known to speak out. Speak out. Forgive them, Warren. Forgive them. What's with the audio there? It sounds like he's in a tunnel. He's in the subway. Is it not? He's somewhere out on the street. Wait, do you think that he's buying like a cafe or something because at the end it pans up and you see like the cafe umbrellas. Dude, I thought the Hasidics were making their own subway.

We're going to get into that later. We're going to have an expose like nobody has on that subject. Their own Jared Subway. We called some of our contacts, me and Keaton. We're on top of that. There are a lot of Jews in the animation business. We put them to work. We put them to work. So, yeah, Rappaport...

I'm apologizing on behalf of actors because they usually speak out like Christ. They only speak out on things that will not cost them anything. They do not. Most of these actors, if you're, if they did, if they spoke out in terms of what they actually believe, they'd be speaking for Palestine. They could be speaking for Gaza. You have a very small number of, why do you think nobody even privately speaks?

is calling juliana margulies as she now shut up about with the backlash that she got but she went and wrote that until we did a piece about this she did an entire article in usa today talking about how horrible it is that none of her non-jewish friends are calling to check in to see if she's okay and she did the whole wait what i marched for black lives matter and where and

where are you now for me? I mean, that's in essence, that's what she was saying. Oh, I put that down. And she wasn't the only one. A lot of design is now they realize they're not going to get away with that. But a lot of them turned around and said, Oh,

I marched for George Floyd. Now you have to support a genocide. No, she did a whole op-ed. She did. She did a horrific podcast interview where, where she basically made the Rappaport thing that they would chop off your head like a soccer ball. If you go to the medley and play with it like a soccer ball. Did they, the BLM told them upfront that we support.

What side they were on. They just didn't bother listening. This is the problem that these woke Zionists are having because they are under the misimpression that they are the oppressed class.

And all you prove by saying that is if you did indeed go march for these causes and you don't understand why black and brown people are not siding with an apartheid state. Well, you never really understood those causes in the first place. And maybe you shouldn't have been out there. They gave money for it. You have anything, Kate?

Yeah, no, I mean, look, you made that same point when Elon bought Twitter and all these, you know, Hollywood types were talking about how they're going to leave. That's it. I'm going to whatever it was, not blue sky. What was the first one? Mastodon was the first one. Well, I'm going to Mastodon. Find me there. You're not going to fucking Mastodon because there's no people over on Mastodon. And at the end of the day, you're just an empty virtue signaling whore, as Kurt says. And so you're going to stay where the people are. It would cost you something.

to switch to a social media platform with no people there. You're only interested in cost-free virtue signaling. The second it costs you something, you'll back down. And just to reiterate what I said earlier, this is Hollywood three months after Israel was attacked. If this were 20 years ago, everyone would have a Star of David button when they went up on stage. The fact that they were silent on that just shows how embarrassed, how rightfully embarrassed they are and would be

for them to go up there and start praising the, you know, Israeli state. Pardon me. Yeah, you got George Takai on Twitter, on X, bitching about Elon Musk on a semi-daily basis. Like, what are you doing? Two mastodon, factor six. Oh, there's nobody here. Back to ex-captain. All right, so let's see what else this specimen had to say. I speak out about everything.

And not one person said a word. And I know it's a day late, 'cause yesterday I was just like, "Do I say anything about this? Am I gonna alienate myself from the entire Hollywood community?" I don't know what kind of conversations are taking place or whatever, but I'm embarrassed not one person said anything. We, as actors, SAG, DGA, WGA, we should be ashamed of ourselves.

No one said anything. That shit is embarrassing. Oh, there it is. I told you. There it is. You really worked up a snot over this one. You know what's really embarrassing? Watching the Golden Globes. The Golden Globes themselves. I can't. I can't do it. Keaton, did you watch that?

No, we were on. We had a show Sunday night. We had a show. We were on. They got Joe Cueto. So Ricky Gervais, I guess, was the one. We dominated them in the ratings. We had much better ratings. The low-rated Golden Globes. The low-rated Golden Globes. Nobody cares. The failing Golden Globes. You think I'm going to put a bow tie on my cat to watch that crap? I

I mean, who cares about these people anymore? I'm curious. Misha, do you know what the ratings were like on the Golden Globes? Oh, no. I haven't watched in years. I'm a little curious because what you're seeing year after year with these award shows is this shrinking viewership because nobody cares anymore. I mean, there are no more movie stars, really, for a variety of reasons. The Will Smith slap really changed a lot with having people making...

That's a good joke. He won't do nothing to ruffle anything. He'll just be a real pleasant, high energy guy. Nobody wants De Niro to go up there and break a hip trying to attack some pro-Trump monologue. They don't want him to do his Irishman kick. His stiff Irishman. What was that boxing movie they made him humiliate himself with when he was like 70 or anything?

boxing they put him in like a boxing comedy movie yes when he was like 70 and they put him in with another iconic old man old man who had been in box it wasn't still his old man boxing i can't remember who it was i'm sure in the in the comments they know um all right anything else gentlemen

He's a paid show. That's why he's talking about it. The Lawrence Olivier of our times, Michael Rappaport, apologizing on behalf of the acting community. He's a Brooklyn Dad Defiant kind of guy. That's what he is. Well, he's not an actor. He's what you call a personality. This is why David Letterman was able to make the guys at the Hello Deli famous. That's why he was able to grab Larry Bud Melman and make him famous. Because some people are just funny to watch.

That's it. He's not an actor. He's a personality. Grudge match. You could grab a guy out of a subway. Is that what it was called? Grudge match? Grudge match.

We were talking the other day and the, you know, the audience for the show was ahead of us. We were talking about how Ray Epps got six months and they were all saying, no, no, he's not going to do any time. And, uh, as usually is the case. Thank God. Thank God. He's a poor man. All right. So, so let's, uh, let's be reminded, you know, this is, this is QAnon shaman. God, what is it? 46 months. Uh,

um and let's take a look at what ray epps did by comparison this guy was not cosplaying like the q anon shaman he was for real this fellow tomorrow we need to go into the capital into the capital they knew what was up tomorrow

I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested. Well, let's not say it. We need to go. I'll say it. All right. We need to go in. Shut the fuck up, Boomer. To the Capitol. Feast fed posting? All right. We need to go into the Capitol. I didn't see that coming. Okay. Yeah, okay. So we showed that the other day. All right. So Ray Epps, a target of January 6th conspiracy theories, gets a year of probation.

Or his Capitol riot role. Imagine that. Imagine that. Wait, is that picture him whispering to a young man to not go in the Capitol? Well, that's probably what his lawyers said.

A man targeted by right wing conspiracy theories about the U.S. Capitol riot was set. Oh, he was targeted by right wing conspiracy. There's you got you got to love these people over at Associated Press. Yeah. To frame it that way. Well, well, this is this is why every lib you

know is, is just absolutely intolerable because they're constantly being programmed by sentences like that, right? A man targeted by right-wing conspiracy theories. It's, it's to believe the party was their final, most fundamental command. I'm paraphrasing a little from 1984, but very, very much like 1984, where you're supposed to have this double think.

Where the perfect party member, the perfect citizen, is able to hold completely contradictory facts in their mind at the same time. You know what they call that now? I can hold two things in my mind at once. I'm never experiencing confidence. And they do. And they do. Like, how can you listen to all the January 6th stuff from Stephen Colbert to CNN all over? It's the...

Biden going up there talking about this like it was it was the invasion of of the of Genghis Khan and the Mongolians. And.

Oh, a man targeted by right wing conspiracy theories. And if you talk to these libs, they'll be like, that's terrible what they're what they're doing to him, because that's how they were told to frame it. All right. So let's go through this was sentenced on Tuesday to a year of probation for joining the January 6, 2021 attack by a mob of fellow Donald Trump supporters. Ray Epps, a former Arizona resident who was driven into hiding.

By death threats, pleaded guilty. No, he was off doing some assassinations by direction from his handlers. Pleaded guilty in September. Ray Epps is safe and effective. I didn't mean any of that. Pleaded guilty in September to a misdemeanor charge. He received no jail time.

And there were no restrictions placed on his travel during his probation, but he will have to serve 100 hours of community service. Okay. So listen, you know who else had to serve 100 hours of community service? Me. Why? Breaking into a corporation building when I was 16 to steal a typewriter. I thought you dug it. So, so they, so they, it's a, it's a, it's a lot, it's a long story, but.

They made me go clean up at the local park, right? So I got the same community service for like stealing a typewriter that this guy got for supposedly inciting the greatest attack on civilization since the Hans. An insurrection. An insurrection. This guy got, yeah, man. I mean, if I had not given up my criminal ways, I could have been working Casino Park with this guy. That was for the people in Flushing. Do you think that he will...

His service will be telling groups of people to go into things. Maybe, maybe he'll become a tour guide. He'll become a tour guide or, or, or, or porn with that profile. Uh, he appeared remotely by video conference and wasn't in the Washington DC courtroom. When chief judge James Boasberg sentenced him, prosecutors had recommended a six month term of imprisonment for EPS.

Okay. So from Greg Price breaking Ray Epps, the only January 6th protester, the only one who actually told people to go into the Capitol has been officially sentenced to one year probation.

$500 restitution and 100 hours of community service. Can't make this shit up. While many J6 protesters are rotting in jail for nonviolent crimes, Epps escapes a prison term entirely. This is from Thomas Massey. Ray Epps, the man who directed people to go into the Capitol, into the Capitol, and privately claimed credit for orchestrating the Capitol breach, can't.

Gets one year probation. Nothing to see here. And Elon Musk tweeted out strange and friend of show friend of everybody show comrade Misty. If you weren't sure if Ray Epps is a fed before his quote sentence, that should clear it up for you. So what do you think about that, Keaton?

Well, there is that great scene in The Godfather where they bust the Fed, right? The guy says, now tomorrow, tomorrow, leave the gun, take the cannoli. Tomorrow, remember, remember. And then they, you know, get to him, right? So, I mean, look, it's the most obvious thing in the world. I mean, it's an insult to the –

You know, not even like not even an insult to our intelligence, just an insult to our eyes and ears. And you'll have people sort of straw man this by saying, well, are you saying he's the most culpable? He didn't orchestrate it. Nobody's saying he's the most culpable. They're saying you have.

people being sentenced to years in prison for simply walking around inside the Capitol building. Right. The shaman was sentenced as harshly as he was because he was the image of the riot. In fact, I believe if I'm not mistaken, the judge even said that you are kind of the poster boy for this thing. They were,

clearly doing that to make an example of a guy who video evidence shows was simply getting a guided tour of the Capitol building from the cops themselves. This guy is out there the night before saying tomorrow we have to go in. And it took them two and a half years to even arrest the guy in the first place.

And now this is the sentence. It's just a no brainer. I mean, there's nothing really to say. This is just the kind of thing, as you said, you have to, you know, believe the party line. That's it. This is just a way to get people to comply. So this guy. Right. According to CNN, MSNBC is both a right wing conspirator and the victim of a right wing conspiracy. Yeah.

Right. Like he is a conspirator. He directed them to go into the building. So to the extent that that was a conspiracy, that was a conspiracy, he was definitely in on it. But he's also the victim of right wing conspiracy theories. Talk about like doublethink. Yeah. Well, I think it was it was Voltaire who said, if they can make you believe absurdities, they can make you commit atrocities.

I have not yet, and it's frightening, I have yet to find where the limit is of what the liberal class cannot be made to believe. They do not seem to have a limit. You can tell these people, you see that 600-pound person? That's a good lifestyle choice, and that has absolutely no... It's a great lifestyle choice. It has no impact on your health. Well, get out of there, Vic. It has no impact on your health. Oh, oh, oh.

Where's the limit? Like how far can you, and that's exactly what he says in 1984. He tells him in 1984, uh,

If I say that I float off the ground like a soap bubble, you will see that. That is for you to see. And that's exactly what, how could you possibly believe this guy's not an agent? And the people in the press, that's what's even more stunning because it's there. Hey, you know, government's going to government. It's their job to expose that.

I saw. They won't look at it. They won't look at the video. They won't look at a video. So all the people are saying that when he goes, I'm saying it. I could get probation, but I'm going to say it. Even if they do, you just tell these people how they're supposed to see it, how they're supposed to frame it.

And it's the most incredible thing how brainwashed they are and how programmed they are. I mean, a lot of this is just neuro-linguistic programming. I saw a journalist saying there are seven people who everybody knows work for the CIA. And when you see their headlines, you know who they are.

Like, like, you know, that headline came from one of those. Well, you could actually tell by reading the headline if you just are not like stupid. And that NLP, I heard somebody call it pseudoscience. I go, that's weird because the government should don't think it's sort of pseudoscience. I mean, I mean, it's really it's really not. They used to teach that to the KGB, you know, mirroring to mirror the person's body language. So people really want to mirror things.

Just the very concept that we have influencers as a job, which is fucking insane. Everything is now not capitalism. I guess what I thought it was supposed to be was like, I don't know, the free market and goods and services traded. Now it ain't that. Now it's like like an Oprah demigod. You have to become. Well, this is what this is where Keaton always says about Trump. Part of his appeal is he lives in a world of merchandise.

He lives in a world of schmattas. He lives in a world of things on shelves. Yeah, that's not influencers vaguely selling images of rappers in Caraco. He's very analog. He where did he come from? He came from building buildings, concrete, right? His signature policy, a wall. These are like material things that people can see and feel and touch.

Whereas the whole like Davos world is all just numbers on a screen. That's not relatable to the average person. There's a psychological phenomenon at work there that is very central to why people latch on to a lot of Trump's messaging and why the sort of liberal answer to that doesn't resonate. ♪

This is the Jimmy Dore Show. This is Russell speaking. How can I help you? Hello, Russell. It's a pleasure to talk to you. This is Senator Chuck Schumer of the great state of New York. Oh, well, hello, Senator. Thanks for calling. What's on your mind? Getting this budget thing taken care of. That's what. And guess what? We are. Well, sort of. Oh, that's good to hear.

Yes, it is, Russell. And I'm pleased to say I've reached a tentative deal with the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. And I'm also pleased to say that it was an absolute pleasure working with him. Yes, you said he was, quote, a decent, respectful guy. And I meant it. He's a real mensch, unlike certain others in Congress I could name. Polite, punctual, friendly, clean guy.

Did I say polite? The young man is aces in my book. So much so that his politics don't bother you? Russell, as long as I can work with Republican politicians, I certainly don't need to have the same worldview as they do. Even if they're wacko, far-right, Christian fundamentalists and all that entails, being anti-gay and everything else? Russell, part of that everything else is a rabid, unthinking support for Israel. Ah.

And that's what we need in Congress right now. As Israel's actions become more and more difficult to rationalize or justify in any way, we need as many Israel heads out there as we can get. Men like him are greatly appreciated. Even though his support for Israel is based on the religious belief that the last of the Jews will be converted to Christianity in order to bring about the apocalypse?

Look, I don't care what cornball fantasy is behind it. Support is support. As far as I'm concerned, he can believe Jerusalem is where Mayor McCheese will ascend to heaven during the next solar eclipse. Just keep that money and weaponry flowing. Is that why McDonald's is getting all that backlash? Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.

And I'm not going to lie, it's a little unsettling seeing more anti-Semitism than I'm seeing irrational support for Israel right now. Don't care for it, not one bit.

On a related note, since you are the senator from New York, can I ask you if you know anything about these tunnels they've discovered underneath the Khabab? Okay, enough with the tunnels already. We've heard enough about these tunnels, enough to spur every old anti-Semitic trope and conspiracy theory in the book. I understand that. I'm not trying to fuel any tropes or conspiracies, but still.

People want to know what the deal is with these tunnels. I don't know, okay? I have no idea. Yes, it's weird. What do you want me to say?

It's the Hasidim. No one knows what they're up to anyway. Normal Jews don't know much about them, and we don't care to. Okay. All right. I don't ask Christians what's up with the Amish. I don't ask them what's up with Hasidim. They've been confounding us for way longer than they've been confounding you, believe me. Fair enough. If I had to venture a guess, I would say that whatever the purpose for those tunnels is, it's not sinister. Extremely weird, almost certainly, but not sinister. If you say so.

I do so say so, Weisenheimer. Look, I know you're new around here, but I'm Chuck Schumer, master of the Senate, cousin of Amy Schumer, and what I say goes. Fair enough, Rebby. And watch it with the Israel bashing. I hear all this Israel bashing from you and Jimmy and all your crew of ne'er-do-wells, and believe me, it does not go unnoticed. It is very noticed. Good, baby. You'll listen to how the American public doesn't want this genocide to go on.

Nope, never. The day I start listening to the American people is the day I stop listening to the Eagles. I represent New York State, not every Israel-hating boob riding around on a scooter or whatever. We know best. Oh, I am sure you do. What? That's the spirit. I like the cut of your jib, young man. You seem to be one of the ones who gets it. But now I have to go. I've got a special secret meeting in the tunnels underneath Congress. What?

Wait, what goes on in those tunnels? Nothing. Forget I said it. I've said too much. Forget about those tunnels, too. Just stop thinking about tunnels. Goodbye. Okay, thank you, Senator Schumer. Hey, become a premium member. Go to JimmyDoreComedy.com. Sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business.

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