Jann Does Disneyland
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Hello, welcome to the Jen Arden podcast and show. I just want to make a very, very huge announcement. We haven't been promoting this a lot, but we started our Patreon account. $5 a month gets you all kinds of things. First in line for live events, merchandise,

extra content that could be anywhere from 15 to like 35, 40 minutes. Drum roll, please. We have 87 memberships. Anyway, what was I saying? It's a Jan Arden podcast. Welcome, Caitlin Green. Welcome, Sarah Burke. And here we are recording. I feel like

The weeks are going by so fast. Oh, the weeks are insane. The weeks are just flying by. I don't understand it. I'm like, how the F is it going to be August soon? Like, I'm not ready for August. I'm not in a place of August. It needs to be June. I know. Once summer, like, kind of starts, you're just like, oh, my God, how many summer weekends do I have left? And it's a countdown. Mm-hmm. 100%. Well, you know what you start doing when you're 62? What? You start counting how many summers you have left. Jan, don't go to a doctor.

to a dark place like right off the top here. My friend Jean, Jean Leslie, I love you. She lives in Vancouver. Jean is exactly 20 years older than me. Jean is 82. So she and I, I met her when I was 22. And so we always kind of celebrate these decade milestones. But anyway, I remember when she turned 62 and I was 42. We speak on the phone. She said, well, I was just sitting here counting how many summers I have left. And I think I would love to have 25 great summers left.

But here's the great thing. I was talking to Jean last week and she said a very similar thing. We were talking about the summer going by fast and she said, well, I'm really, and she's 82 now, right? And this is how she's speaking at 82. Well, I'm really hoping I have another 20 good summers left. So it hasn't, the whole idea hasn't changed since she was 62. And I love that at 82, she's looking forward, she's looking forward.

into the horizon going, I'm 82. Why can't I live to 102? She's got a new boyfriend. She's in love. She goes, I've never felt like this in my life.

I'm just like, okay, this is not what I thought 82 would look like. One of my close friends' grandmothers unfortunately just passed away this week, but she was 102. And I will say like until the end, she was living it up. I mean, she still spent her, her summer or her winter, sorry, in Florida. She was like loving life and she was fortunate enough to pass away at home. And it just, it feels like if you could, you know, sign that contract right now, you would. I'm

I'm so interested in 102 being kind of a new baseline for how long people can be expecting to live if, you know, you could do all these things. And we spoke about the dementia thing, meditation, exercise, going vegan. I also know someone who just passed away at 102. Was it a woman? She cut hair till she was 97. She was a hairdresser. Unbelievable.

I wonder if there's, you know, there's something obviously to be said for everyone and having purpose. And so that kept her, because we just know that there's so many factors that impact

contribute to your longevity and being part of a community and socializing and having something to get up for every day. Having a pet? Yeah, having a pet. Exactly. Having something that you're caring for and something that you care about. I just, I think it all kind of comes together. She had a lot of grandchildren and great grandchildren and she was just the sweetest thing. She would say that so many years spent in the warm weather in Florida every winter, I know she felt like it helped her a lot.

And she looked forward to it. My mom said, it's so nice to have something to look forward to all the time. Quite frankly, I'll look forward to a nice salad. That's the key to happiness though, right? I'd be happy on an orange crate in the middle of a field. Your dad is not like that. He just, he needs to be constantly entertained. An orange crate in the middle of a field. Is it all going, Steve? I now have music in my hot tub. Steve is here. Yay, Steve.

My hot tub madness. It better be our playlist. Oh, yeah. We got some music going on. I had to have everything replaced because, and we're going to talk about your floods, but my hot tub, here's fucking ridiculousness for you. How does a fucking hot tub flood? Underneath my hot tub flooded. It flooded all the electronical components. It has taken me six weeks to fix this. I had to get a sump pump put in.

It was a comedy of errors. But anyways, everyone's been so fantastic. Everyone working on it and helping me. Thank you, Steve and co. The chef's kiss of people helping. And you have music out there now, did you not before? Steve just keeps popping his head. And so he's playing music in the hot tub. But that component blew up. It flooded. What's he playing now? What I imagine is Steely Dan. I'm in love with your body, with your body too.

We're going to get sued. I'm going to have to pay a licensing fee for that beautiful singing that I just did. Can we talk about the YouTube jail for a minute last week? Oh, yeah. Thank you to everyone who obviously wrote to us. Someone kill me for being on that thread with you, too, because I was just like, I'm in Los Angeles in Disneyland and this thread is coming through hot and hard. So let's back. Let's back it up. Let's back it up.

So I'm on my way to a doubleheader baseball game last Wednesday. And in our little group chat, Caitlin says, guys, the Jan Arden YouTube is just not coming up for me right now. The podcast YouTube. Are you guys seeing it? And I'm like, on the field, can't help at the moment, but I'll check when I get home. I'm with Mickey. Can't help you. I check the emails that we have. And it says that we've been violating impersonation policies.

Jan, you were impersonating yourself. Yeah, we were flagged for impersonation, which is ridiculous. It happens. I went through proper channels, of course. You know, I was talking to your management. I was talking to Universal, the label, because I figured that was the source of the flag. And eventually, the only person who helped us get this was a random person I messaged on LinkedIn. Oh, that's how you found him. Who just happens...

To be married to someone at Intact Insurance. Who said that he was a fan of the pod. I won't reveal his last name, but his first name was Gabriel. And after everything was all on the up and up, he said, for what it's worth, we're fans. And my wife is actually behind the Intact campaign that your team did. Like, is that the reason why we're back on YouTube? Because if it is, Gabe, we owe you one. I want to thank Intact Insurance for not only being our title sponsor out of that gate,

They also got us out of YouTube jail. They're really honestly caring, nice people who will help you out of anything from a flood to a fire to apparently YouTube jail. But that seemed like an insurance issue, actually. It should be. It should be an insurance issue. We should tell them to get into the digital insurance business. It's a great problem to have, I guess, if someone's impersonating you, sort of. Unless you're yourself. Also, someone's watching out for me. Someone is watching out for me in this world saying, oh, no, you're not going to steal our little Jan Jan.

That's not going to happen. Back it up because we know her personally and you're not going to be her. I think it was like AI. I think it was AI too. And I wondered if it wasn't perhaps linked to the creation of our Patreon because you link your account. And so I feel like when we link that account is where things went like, right. So, yeah.

Well, we're out of jail. It's good. It's good. We're free. Sarah thinks that I'm going to have to get a Patreon membership. I said, can I hear the bonus content this week? And Sarah's like, I think you have to join up on the Patreon for five bucks a month, which I'm going to do, ladies and gentlemen. I am going to join up.

Because, you know, why not? I want to support us. I want to support the girls. But listen, we're going to run this back up the flagpole again. I say Patreon. The girls say Patreon. That's the other way around. Oh, the girls say Patreon. I say Patreon. There we go. Jesus, son of a shit. Five bucks a month. You can go and sign on. And I think it's just...

go to the Patreon site and put my name in. Just Google Jan Arden Podcast Patreon and last weekend we had like a 21 minute extra conversation. So if you're ever like, oh, I wish the show was longer. It is. It's over there. And we will always have a link to the Patreon in the show notes. So wherever you are listening to this podcast, just look on the text part and there'll be a link there. And we're going to keep you up to date on that live event that we're going to be doing in the fall. And we're definitely going to be doing it. It's just, it's going to come together in the next eight weeks of where, how, when.

And it's going to be a blast because you guys can be sitting in the audience when we talk to great guests, not only talk amongst ourselves, but we will definitely have some guest stars. You know, I might sing something. I mean, why not? Oh, shit. Why don't we make a whole day of it? Maybe we'll get some booze people to sponsor us or some non-booze. Non-booze is really big these days, the non-booze movement. Toronto has a store called Sober, S-O-B-R, I believe it's spelled. Oh. And it's all those zero alcohol...

and tinctures and botanicals and tequilas that aren't really tequila and whiskeys and rums. And it's all these companies are doing these amazing things to supply us non-drinkers with a way to have fun because you do get sick of having like Coke. One moment, please hold that thought. Please hold for Steve. So we're a bit of a hot mess today. Jen, what time did you get in last night? By the time I looked at the clock to go to sleep, it was like 10 after three, which is the normal time that you guys come in. It's when you guys come home on a weekend.

But I had to wait an hour for my bag. So I came back from Los Angeles. The flight landed at 1145. Went through customs really quickly. I have my Nexus card. It's fantastic. Very much worth getting, doing the interview and going through all that. It really is worth it. And then I stood there like you do, like a big dumb bowling pin and everyone had their stuff. And then, um,

I waited 50 minutes and I finally went to, I found a United girl and said, got a geotag, says my luggage is actually in the building. So can you tell me how to get that? And someone had just not put it on the belt to go up. So give me one minute and I'll go make sure it comes up. And I was so glad because I thought, am I going to have to wait? Anyway, so my bag came up. I got back. We were supposed to record this earlier this morning, but I sent the girls a text like,

at 1 48 or something and um i just said can we bump it up this afternoon and then because i had to get my teeth cleaned and and now we just have had my i actually have a pool boy i guess it's not a pool it's a swim spa it's ridiculous sarah has been in it it's quite fun and then it'll be fixed with the tunes going for this week well yeah when do you get here

I come into Calgary on Wednesday, and then we're ripping up to Canmore for our Airbnb for the golf tournament. And you guys, I'll see you on Saturday, yes? Yes, we see you after all the hoopla of the golf tournament. And by the way, we're just going to quickly shout out Enviros because we're raising money for a good cause. Yeah, Enviros raises money for young men that are addicted to opioids, fentanyl.

I don't know if it's alcohol related, but we've been doing it. This is our ninth year this year. And I think we've raised, you know, half a million bucks or something like that, maybe a little bit more. But I think this golf tournament in particular focuses on the camp up in Shonda Creek too. And they have an unbelievably high success rate. These guys are in the, I think, 80 percentile, which is amazing. And a lot of the guys that are instructing now are former golfers.

clients of the program. And these young men usually speak at every tournament. They're so inspiring. Everyone's bawling their heads off. I was last year. Because they talk about losing everything and doing this program. And plus, everyone gets to golf at a beautiful golf course. I'll get to see you. Caitlin, next year you'll have to come. I tried. I tried so hard to make her come, but she was like, meh. Well, who wants to want... No one wants to be away from their little cutest frickin' baby in the world.

Also for a golf tournament. I mean, let's be honest. Have you ever golfed? I have. I have golf actually. My husband is a massive, massive golf fanatic. So I will have to bite the bullet at some point or I will become a golf widow. And I do like driving around in a golf cart and consuming alcohol. That is fun. I will save a spot on the foursome for that even for you next year. Well, you know, you don't even have to swing a club.

My friend Lisa comes all the time. I used to let her drive, but now she just comes. She just comes with a flask. She's got the biggest flask in the world, which I guess is a sight gag. I feel like your group last year had like five or six people because we were behind you and I was like, what's going on in this foursome? Well, two of them don't golf. Like Lisa and Bev. Bev used to work at Enviro's for, I don't know, two decades. And Lisa used to work there as well. But now they're still, neither of them work there anymore. Bev's retired. And Lisa works for the city of, town of Cochrane?

City of Cochrane? I don't even know. Anyway, it's fantastic. I'm looking forward to you coming. I feel like I need to stock up on cannabis sodas. The last time you were here, you had some kind of cannabis THC sodas. You don't have to buy me anything. You guys are more than welcome to smoke a little reefer here or do some edibles. I'll just sit back and film you and put it on the internet and ask you personal questions. Just send it directly to me. Just put it on our group chat. Bonus content for next week.

And, uh, no, I'm going to cut the lawn and everything. I'm going to, I'm going to save up. I'm probably going to cut the lawn in a couple of days so that my lawn, my yard looks really nice. And, uh, thank God this fricking pool is fixed for you guys. It was so cute seeing you guys in there. Like I felt like, uh, I felt like cool. While we recorded the podcast, uh, last summer, like we were sitting at your kitchen counter and my two girlfriends, we were looking out at them and they were just splashing around and

But this time, I'm not doing any work on this trip. I am closing the laptop tomorrow and taking a break. Oh, we'll see how that goes. Anyway, I don't know what any of this has to do with me going to Disneyland a couple days ago because... Tell us, please. Last minute decision. We just said, let's do it. Let's pull the trigger.

I went to LA with Chris, my road manager, because my friend Leah is working with Michael Bublé on The Voice. He is one of the judges. Two seasons, seasons 26 and 27 are being filmed back to back. Wait, she's working with him? She does a lot of stuff with him. A lot of social media stuff. She does a lot of writing for Michael. And he's a super funny, very charismatic guy. He's so funny. Anyway, we got a chance to sit in the audience for some of the blind auditions. Cool.

Adam Levine, Kelsey Ballerini, Buble, and John Legend. They were the four that were on season 27. Season 27 isn't until fall of 2025. Season 26 is on this fall. So that's how far ahead they film. Oh my God. Okay. So they're doing two seasons. Anyway, I felt so...

My heart just kind of broke for some of these kids doing the blind auditions because there was just times when nobody turned around. I'm sorry to say this, but it's such a hilarious format for a show.

You just have like four celebrities in these big chairs and they're like, I don't like you. I'm not flipping my big chair around. And then someone just, some person just stands on stage hoping that Kelsey Ballerini turns her giant chair around. I mean, it's objectively very funny. I couldn't do it. There's no way I could do it. But when you think about the history of these types of shows, not that this is any comparison to like Eurovision, ABBA in the seventies won. They did Waterloo.

And it was that contest. Every country sends their best. And it's still really one of the premier contesting type contests.

shows on the planet. I love Eurovision. So this is tough. I mean, you go up there, it's completely silent. The guy that warms up the audience basically says, we want complete silence during the performance. So you can't cheer anybody on for their high notes or, you know, doing stuff or, you know, getting into the song. You can't respond or clap or go, whoo, yay, Dave, you know, further than that. I'm looking at Chris and I'm going, oh my God, look at the parents.

So over by another set of cameras offstage, the contestant comes up quietly, stands on their mark. The parents go over and they stand on their mark over by Carson Daly. So imagine these parents standing there. Their kid is singing. They have 90 seconds. No chairs are turning around and the parents are sometimes crying, holding each other, looking at the screen going, please.

Some of them are praying. It is gut-wrenching. And Chris is like, I can't do this. This is so hard.

I can't. I would have to leave. Do you want to know why? Because I would start laughing. Because I'm one of those people that laughs in uncomfortable situations. And if I had to sit in a silent auditorium of people waiting for a chair to turn around, and you couldn't even cheer for someone who did a good job, I would erupt. Yeah, I'm with you. So between the contestant pouring their hearts out, and I'm going to tell you right now, of the eight blind auditions that I saw, nobody could sing.

I'm just going to tell you that right now. But like five of them got turned around on, five of them. And then it comes down to you're allowed 12 people on each team. And once you have your 12 people that you can't turn your chair around anymore. So at one point it was just Adam and Michael that were trying to complete their teams. They had one or two people that they needed to collect.

What happens on the show? Like, so you get your team and then you have your team and then the teams are all whittled down until there's like one left from the team. And then like America votes on the person who wins from each team. I have no idea. I feel like they're very lucky in my opinion to have Michael Bublé cause he's frigging funny. He's so funny and charismatic. He's one of the best singers in the world. Truly. When he came on the morning show, he,

it was not long before I was let go. And he had just done his, um, NHL all-stars run here in Toronto. And he did a press conference interview that was so funny about the mushrooms, about the mushrooms. And I just was like, this guy is an entertainer. I mean, he can sing. This is someone who, in my opinion, should be hosting like a late night show. Like I just was, I mean, I was really, I was like blown away by how good he was.

He's got a lot of irons in the fire right now. I can't speak on his behalf, but he's got so many interesting projects on his table. Have you guys had him on this podcast before? No, I don't want him.

I don't like him. He's a good singer, but I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. No, it was so nice to see him. We sat in the dressing room and hung out and he looks so good and he's just so fit. And obviously he's got all his kids down there and his wife, they do have a house in LA. So he's so crazy about his wife and his kids. Like it's just his world.

And so he's always distracted by his kids. Well, the story about his kid overcoming illness and all that. I mean, honestly, just, yeah, could not like a celeb more, I feel. He's just so funny and fantastic. And a very good person. He is. Yeah, I like him. Like I said, I've known him for years and years. I opened many, many tours for him. Went all through Australia, went all through Europe, went all through the United States. And I finally just said, Michael, I love you, but I cannot do this anymore.

But come talk to us on the show. But yeah, no, I'll ask him. I'll ask him. Yeah, that'd be so great in the fall. We should have him on or maybe closer to Christmas when Buble's everywhere. Well, maybe he can talk about the voice and get his take on it. Yeah, that I would love. His heart broke. Oh, I bet. He's so emotionally invested in these people. How could you not be? And even when the chairs didn't get turned around, he would get up out of his chair.

I don't know how much makes it onto television. Obviously, it's all edited after the fact. But for us at the audience, he got up out of his chair and he went up to them and he hugged them and he helped them carry his stuff off. And he went over and shook hands with the parents or the boyfriend or whatever. Like he just was that guy. He got up and did that. None of the other people did that.

Says a lot, right? If Michael Bublé is getting up and you're not getting up, you need to get up. Okay, back to Disneyland for a moment. Oh, then our next thing was Disney. I thought that was going to be my weekend because I only went for three nights. I stayed in the pull-out couch in Leah's room. Would Celine Dion do that? Jan Arden got the pull-out couch? Oh, it was awesome. It was my little cubby hole, so I made that. Okay. I didn't have enough blankets, so I used her house coat and towels.

Is that real or is that a true story that you had a house coat and towels on top of you? Yes. Why did you just get a room? Are you talking about my old story when they were going housekeeping? Now Poppy thinks somebody's at the door. I need heavy weight on my legs. So I put stuff on there. I get, there's an extra, there's never any extra blankets in hotel rooms anymore, but I use all the towels and I put towels on and then I'll put, I'll pile on a couple of

Um, whatever, like whatever I've got in the room. Is the purpose because it makes you feel like safe and secure? No, I need weight on my legs. I just need weight. I can't have a light blanket. It's like having a sheet. To me, that's just annoying. And I have the room so cold that you just need stuff. It's just as simple as that. Is this weird? Am I only a weird person that does this? I've had lots of people say, oh God, yeah, I have to have heavy blankets.

My mental image of you sleeping on a pillow couch in your friend's room with towels and a house coat on top of you. Like it's so, so hilarious to me. I love it. The internet kind of told us that you were like the only one of the three of the bunch at Disneyland that didn't wear the ear, the Mickey Mouse ears. Like what was that all about? I refused. I'm like, I'm not participating. I'm not, I don't want ears. Those guys took so long to pick their ears.

So Disneyland back in the day used to have Minnie and Mickey. It was a little felt hat. It was cheap shit. It was probably five bucks. These things are 30 US dollars, sometimes 39. Everyone wears them, but they have donuts, Star Wars, bagels, fucking ice cream cones. It's not just ears anymore. It's anything. It's, it's, uh,

uh, Cruella Dalmatian hats. It's, um, it's every branding cars, um, monsters, Inc. Like whatever your jam is, you can wear it on your head for 30 to $40. I refused. I said, I'm not doing it. I had a $10 dole whip pineapple whip with pineapple juice. It was so goddamn delicious because it was 10 bucks. Um,

We went to Club 33, which is the big secret club. It's tens of thousands of dollars to join up for this Disney club. Leah's friend, Brett, got us in. So you find this little street in New Orleans land or whatever you call it, and there's a button under the numbers 33, and you go in. I was inappropriately dressed.

It's a bar though? Like a club? No, it's a beautiful restaurant. It's a restaurant hidden away. Okay, I love you Disney, but this was ridiculous. So we go in. You can't have frayed jeans or anything. I didn't have frayed jeans, but I had patches on my jeans. So she's like, you're going to have to wear a maxi skirt. We will get you one in a bag. No, no.

So I had to take my pants off. And Leah's like, why didn't you just put the maxi skirt over your jeans? I said, because I'm not putting, I look lumpy. I've got a belt on. I'm not fucking putting a goddamn polyester maxi skirt. And these, Chris had short cutoffs. And she says, well, you're fine, sir. Cutoffs and a muscle shirt. He's fucking fine.

And they made him just roll up the frayed edges. If you just roll those up and Leah's pants were frayed on the bottom, she just rolled hers up. I go parading in there in a maxi fucking skirt. And we sat down, there's no prices on the menu. I look at Leah, I'm going, this is not boating well. Like, and she's like, I didn't know what this was. Brett just said we should try it and do it. And you know, he got us in on his membership.

And it's a four course lunch. We're in Disneyland. I pictured fucking nachos, hot dogs, donutty things, Mickey Mouse revels, like whatever, just crap. That's what I pictured. Just crap of the whole day. And I thought, yeah, maybe we'll spend a hundred bucks each on the crap. That's a lot of goddamn money, but let's do it. Let's commit because we got free tickets to Disneyland. Brett also got us the tickets to Disneyland.

So nice. So we had to do from this menu. I said, is there any other menu? He goes, no, it's a set menu. He just looks at us like we're, and oh yeah, further that, I have a ball cap on all day. He goes, no head pieces. Head pieces? You mean ball cap? So I took that off. I looked like Tilda Swinton on Acid.

I love that you were just in a communal skirt. Who knows who wore that? Over top of jeans. I did. I took my jeans off. I took the jeans off, put them over my Converse runners. I looked so ridiculous. So now I've picked a, thank God they had a mushroom. They had a mushroom schnitzel with spetzel. It was like,

Plant-based, thank God for me. I had a zucchini blossom thing, and then there was a little Mediterranean salad. So it was easy for me to eat there. I could pick one thing off of there. Take a gander, three of us. They each had one cocktail. I had an iced tea. The portions were these little teeny things, and we were with these super rich families that were Chanel, Louis Vuitton, Gucci from head to goddamn toe. Five-year-olds in there eating like caviar and shit like this. But anyway. Okay.

It must have been at least $250 a US a head, was it? Pretty much almost. Okay. Canadian, it was almost $800. Yeah, yeah. $800 Canadian dollars. And I said I was getting lunch. So how can I back out of it now? Yeah.

Lunch is on me, guys. You're just sitting there in some random mask skirt. They tried to make it up to me the whole weekend. They bought me a Star Wars journal. They brought me a Snow White journal. Chris got me a Mickey Mouse beer mug with my name etched on it with two Ns because he says, I know it's really hard to get stuff with your actual name spelled right. So I felt like I was 12.

And then they bought for the next two days. Those two bought me every meal, everything that I had. Everyone felt so bad. He's not here right now, so I can't ask him, but I have questions for Brett. Primarily being why the hell does he have a membership to this weird underground overpriced club? They go three or four times a year. He loves Disneyland. His family loves Disneyland. So they get 50 free passes a year, part of your membership.

Okay. But I think it's like 35K up front and then 20,000 bucks a year after that. For what? To go to Disneyland? But when you go to Disneyland, you get a tour guide. You never wait in line. Like this club is you don't wait in lines. We saw people all day just being with a guide and they go through a different line and they get on the rides and you can just go on as many times as you want. I feel like we're devaluing our Patreon. Listen, some people are...

Wait a minute. So like he's just spending. Reba McEntire's son, she rented Disneyland. It was after midnight because obviously you can't rent Disneyland when there's, I would say there was 400,000 people at those parks that day that we went.

It's unbelievable. And it's 200 bucks a head. And then they spend another 250 while they're in the park. Easy for a family of four to go to Disneyland, to fly down, stay in a hotel rooms. That is a $10,000 three days easy. And that's on the cheap side.

That's so dumb. Sorry. So stupid. Have you guys started talking about Disneyland with Will at all? No, hell no. I'm not going down that road yet. He'll one day, I figure I want to go into it when he can like remember stuff. Yeah. And even then every, you know, it'll be weighed against the cost of going somewhere that is like,

of greater cultural value, I feel. Chances of me going are pretty good because he's going to fall in love with Disney and want to go and we're not going to say no, so we'll probably make the pilgrimage, fine. But, I mean, and I did like going when I was a kid, so I will say that...

So I don't know, but I just wonder how much it's definitely jammed people in prices. I mean, it was expensive for my parents when we went, but like that was the 90s. So now I wonder what it costs. We went in the 70s. My dad took us in the 70s. And I bet you they paid for that trip for a year. Having said all that. Yeah. It's one of the best days I've had in five years. That's great. I have never seen more joyful.

kids, families, everybody's friendly, everybody's kind. The staff, the training that they do, the experience that you have, it's really, really expensive. A Diet Coke is $8.50 that you can't get around it. I just like, I can't. One of the vendors at the park, I bought a slushie. It was a cherry kiwi slush, just like a 7-Eleven. It was like a Slurpee. It was $11. No, $10. I'm lying now.

And I just like, this is flavoring and ice. And he said, by the end of the season, he said, it'll probably be 11 or $12. He said, exactly. He said, I see the prices go up all the time. We laughed our asses off. Everything is like a cost benefit analysis. So, you know, if, if, if your kids are dying to go and you know, they're going to get such a thrill out of it and you can swing it, you save or whatever, however you do it. Um, then I think probably it's fine. But I went, I went as a kid and I went back as an adult for two days and

Um, and we were supposed to go for three days, but we bailed on the third day. Cause I was like, no, I'm, I'm good. I'm good here. Okay. I get that. I couldn't have done a second day. We went for 12 hours. By the time we got into the park, we went in, it was like 1130 and we wandered back to that tram at 12, 10 AM. So do they have the, cause I went to, you went to Disney land. We went to both. We went Disneyland and we went California adventure. Those two parks are side by each.

Because I went to the one in Orlando. I went to Disney World. Epcot and all that stuff down there. Yes, exactly. I stayed at the Polynesian Resort. It was great. If you are a Star Wars fan, this will blow your mind. I felt like I was 10 years old. We went to Star Wars. It was newly built. It was built during COVID. I think they were finishing it up. This ride was so amazing.

Fantastical. I felt like I'm in the goddamn show. It was one of the most unique. I don't want to give any spoiler alerts, but there's like three stages to this ride. You think you're in the line. You think you're getting onto the ride. You think, oh, this must be it. No, this isn't it. Now you've been kidnapped by the dark force. Now we're taking you

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Moving on, as we were walking through Disneyland, ding, bong, bong, bong, phones are going crazy. Bing bong. Bing bong. Biden stepped down. He didn't step down. He's going to finish his presidency, obviously. But he stepped down and he has endorsed Kamala Harris, who is his vice president. So go, Caitlin, go. I'm so excited. How do you think it changes the game?

Okay, so it feels as though there has been a whole, like, energizing boost to this race because with the state of the last debate and then the public appearances by Joe Biden following that debate, I think it became clear

indisputable that he's just, you know, it's time to go. And that's no knock on him as a public figure or the years of public service and things he did well or not well or whatever you think of him. But he's been in the game a long, long time and it's time to go. And so I think that this is very exciting. The other thing I think that's very exciting about it is that this is not what the Republicans saw coming.

So they really spent the entire Republican national convention, um, allying against Joe. They were like, it's all about this, you know, maligning this guy. That's been the whole, that's been the name of the game. And so to now have this curve ball thrown your way. And I also think it's going to be interesting to see who she runs with. Um, but yeah,

I just, I wonder if knowing that she would take on the sort of mantle, if, if Trump would have chosen the same running mate that he did, I'm not sure that he would. And the other piece of it is that she's, you know, she's a prosecutor, right? Then that's sort of, that's her background. And she's really up to the task of public speaking. She's really up to the task of calling somebody out on lies and bullshit. That's her foray, like her forte. So,

in the event that this all goes through and she becomes the official candidate and it's all, I am so damn excited to watch someone else on stage with Trump than Joe Biden. I cannot even tell you because however you feel about her or however you feel about Trump, maybe you like him, maybe you don't, maybe you like her, maybe you don't, whatever. I just feel like we knew how the public appearances and the rest of the race were going to go if it was still Joe Biden. And I am just like, woo,

It's just actually exciting to see the change. Do you feel hopeful? Oh, I never do. I

I was like, what kind of question is that for Caitlin Green? No, I don't. And I don't like, I mean, and I also don't think that if she won, I don't, I'm not going to, you know, think she's some savior or like, I don't know. I I'm jaded about like 99.9% of politicians anyways. So, but I just, I like a race and I got to say, I like a fight. I like seeing people with fight in them. I like watching someone get up there who likes fighting and fight. And that's fun for me. So I'm excited for that. Do you guys know the Canadian connection?

Yes, she lived in Montreal for a period of years. Yeah, and like she's been kind of at the forefront of so many things, like even with breast cancer research. I don't know if you guys are aware of this. I was reading about this. So in a note published on the McGill University website, she was cited as a pioneer who left a mark on the institution helping to develop a method of assessing cancerous breast tissue that became standard procedure. Well, the...

The fact that Joe Biden endorsed her put kind of a stamp of approval on things for sure, because I think it would have been very hard for all of us to sit back and watch a shit show going on of people nominating who is going to lead the party. And it makes sense. People have seen her in a position of power. They've seen her with Joe. They've seen her in news clips. They have a glimpse of her personality. Chris made a good point. He's just like,

He said he would never do it, but Pete Buttigieg or... Pete Buttigieg, yeah. Or Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom seems to be the favorite. As running mates. But I think she's going to handpick somebody very unexpected, I think.

It's interesting. So then the criticism about how this has all gone down is that they're sort of bypassing the usual way that you would nominate a candidate. The votes, the convention, the votes. Yeah, exactly. But this is a case of like the insider Democratic elite, again, hand selecting and overriding, you know, any sort of dissenting voice that perhaps didn't want her. So there is some criticism there, which is.

which I don't know is without merit. Because they waited till a certain point. You have to have somebody, people, no. Yeah. Now, this is a different race now. This is a different game. This isn't a normal, we've got two years to parade this candidate in front of people. No, it's four months. No, but I'm just saying in the real world, when you have a candidate that's,

now going to go out there and focus you you see the four people like in the debates that are all vying for the top position in the democratic party you don't have that now because just like you said there's only a short period of time they can't just have five randos that it's that senator or this guy from missouri or that lady like it just isn't going to work that way

I do remain skeptical about the fact that, like, they knew Joe wasn't in good shape. This isn't new information. So the fact that they've known this for a long time... But he deteriorated very quickly, Caitlin. When you see clips from him at this time last year, it's a different game. This has accelerated in the last four or five months. Yeah.

For sure. And, you know, and he had he has he had COVID recently. And so, you know, like he's just it's not it's the right thing to do. I do think there is some fair criticism around how this has all happened. Does it make me any less excited to see her doing this? No, not at all. I'm like, I'm like, like, I'm I'll make a drink. I'm going to have if they have debates when when the first debate against her and Donald Trump, I mean, I'm going to throw a damn party.

It's my UFC fight. I just want to see them get at each other. I'm like, this is the whole... There's nothing he can do to make himself look bad with his supporters.

He could call her a bitch and a C-U-N-T on a debate platform and people would go, yeah. Like there's bets on how long it's going to take for him to use a slur. Well, he's already called her a bitch on that golf, that golf game where that guy was filming when he was talking about, you know, Joe and her. And he's already called her a bitch on the golf course. Like he he's, he's a horrible person. We are living in unprecedented times. I hate that word, but it's true. Um,

We've never seen in my lifetime a president drop out of or kind of throw the towel in with six months to go in his presidency, short of Nixon resigning and waving at the helicopter and doing the peace sign. I mean, we... And to have a woman sitting in that second chair who...

We'll see. I mean, hopefully she will get the nomination from the whole party. And then they better pick a running mate sooner than later so that people have a chance to get to know this person, hear them speak, and see all that stuff. But wow, what a time to be alive. I'm going to be hanging on for dear life. But I, unlike you, Caitlin, I do feel a sense of hopefulness. I think it's going to be a better battle. I think it's going to be a more interesting battle.

Because there was a lot of people that weren't going to vote for the Democrats because they're just like, cannot, they couldn't see Joe doing another four years in the state that he was in. They very much worried about his, his voice on the international, you know, level and all that kind of stuff. But, oh my God,

You're so right about the debates and stuff like that. I think the attention, the interest level, and for people that are now going, you know what? I will vote for blue because this seems much more hopeful. Here's two young people, a young woman and a really capable man. I hope she picks somebody that's just fierce and a gifted orator and someone who's got a great track record and a

Pete, I'd love to see Pete, but Chris is like, it'll never happen. America will never have a gay guy ever. It's not going to fucking happen. Blah, blah, blah. And I was just like, well, I mean, you truly never know it. I would be surprised if they put him on the same ballot as her. It's not to say that I can't see him doing something else, you know, but he he like her, he will dismantle somebody verbally pretty fast.

So, and I think that is a bit needed because it would be nice if we were living in a land of more decorum and politics, but let's be honest, we're not. And any candidate has to be for the time. And I think that that's the big thing that's needed now is that you need a fighter because this is a fight and that goes for both sides. So, you know, that's the time that we're in. And Joe Biden was not up to the fight.

I don't think that that necessarily makes him a bad guy or a bad politician. You saw him on that stage. I'm like, this guy, he does not have the fight in him. Because he wasn't even calling Trump out on all the lies that he had. And that's part of a debate. That's the nature of a debate. Someone says something, you refute it. There was no...

Like he wasn't refuting it. And then in press afterwards, he was like, well, why weren't the moderators and calling him out on it? And why wasn't the press? And I was like, why weren't you? That's your job. You're supposed to be the energized candidate that picks this other person apart. And, and so now I'm just excited. I don't, again, I don't know how it will happen. You know, if she's, if she's, you know, able to pull it off in this period of time, I,

Like, who knows? Right. Elections can go any which way. But I really felt in my heart that there was absolutely not a snowball's chance in hell of Joe Biden winning. That was truly how I felt. And if you do have a party, I'll come invite. OK, if you're in Toronto, you're coming to my debate party. I'll be there. Our Patreon.

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Okay. I really look forward to videos in the group chat of Sarah floating around in your spa. Well, okay. Well, thank you for listening. Hit subscribe. Leave us a review. Five stars would be great. It helps people find our podcast. You can listen to this wherever you listen to your podcast, your favorite podcast. We appreciate you. Next week is the Ask Us Anything. So do ask us anything. And you can ask us questions on the voice notes.

Or you can send us in by email. You can even send questions to our Instagram page. We are Jan Arden Pod on all the social platforms. So that's where you'll find us. We have voice notes. We're going to play those. Hi, Jan and Caitlin and Sarah. My name is Carrie and I live in a small town in Ontario. Longtime Jan Arden fan, longtime Caitlin Green on Chum fan and new Sarah fan.

I just wanted to say thank you so much for this podcast. I have been listening all through COVID and really enjoy it. I think I saw Janet Massey Hall a million years ago and cried during Good Mother, but you know, whatever. I just want to say thank you for doing this podcast every week and having great, insightful discussions.

and sometimes amazing guests. Although I kind of like it when it's just the three of you guys talking about the world. Anyway, I had to figure out how to do this. So thank you for giving me the instructions on Instagram about how to leave a voice note. And I'm really excited for more episodes. And I'm not sure if I have a question for you all. Just keep doing what you're doing and have a great jam summer.

Hi, Jan, Sarah and Caitlin. This is Matthew calling from Hamilton, Ontario. Thank you so much for doing the podcast. You ladies give me some great laughs every single week that I listen to it. I just want to comment on your last podcast where you had mentioned Canadian sex educator Sue Johanson. And one of you referred to her as Dr. Sue.

So Sue actually wasn't a doctor. She was a nurse. And there's this great documentary out there called Sex with Sue, where Sue talks about it and says she would always correct people that would refer to her as a doctor because she didn't want people thinking she was a doctor when she wasn't. She was a nurse.

She also talks about, funnily enough, Dr. Ruth in that same documentary and basically talks about how Dr. Ruth was all about the psychology of sex, where Sue was more about the mechanics of sex. So just want to let you guys know that about that. And the documentary is for free on the global TV app. So maybe you and the listeners can check that out. So again, Sex with Sue.

Thank you so much, ladies. Hi, ladies. I have been listening, Jan, to your podcast since before COVID when you first started. I love it every week. You make me laugh. But I have to say, your pooing in your pants episode, I was almost rolling on the ground.

laughing. What a, what an awful thing to happen to you. But man, when that episode was hilarious, you girls always make me laugh. Um, all of you,

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