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Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We've got a lot coming on the program today. We have Alex Jones. He's going to be commenting on exactly what happened yesterday as the government seemed to violate its own rules. Hmm. Haven't seen that. Oh, except January 6th. We've got a couple of things to talk about on January 6th. Something that people are accusing me of now regarding January 6th, and I want to clear this one up. But also...

Have you heard the latest that the phone companies say, no, we have all the data on the phone calls from the pipe bomb people. Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Could you say that again? We begin in 60 seconds. Stand by. Remember that time when you went into the kitchen one morning and your dog was standing there in an apron, you know, just making pancakes from scratch?

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So new revelations heighten the mystery and the scrutiny of the FBI surrounding one of the most disturbing security failures on the day of the Capitol riot. Cellular carriers have told Congress that they do possess intact phone usage data from the vicinity where two pipe bombs were planted during the January 6th incident.

This directly disputes FBI testimony that agents couldn't identify a suspect because the phone data was corrupted. What's all that about? We are going to find that the FBI and the DOJ was involved and set this whole thing up. I absolutely believe that's what's coming.

They had agents that were souping the crowd up. I don't know if agents were, you know, any of the faces that we have seen on television, but you can't trust a damn thing out of the FBI. January 6, 2021, the FBI opened the investigation into the pipe bombers and

and attempted to identify the suspect by analyzing cell phone data linked to the area surrounding the DNC and the RNC. Two years later, the former assistant director in charge of the Washington field office, who is the guy who was in charge of the investigation of we're going to kidnap the governor of Michigan. He's the guy who oversaw the pipe bomb investigation. He said all of the cellular data was corrupted.

Now, why are we just finding out? Why did the cell companies not come out and say, excuse me, here's the cell data. It's not corrupt. Answer, they're afraid of the DOJ. This is entirely corrupt, which leads me to something that, I don't know, the Thompson twins or the Double Mint twins or whoever they are posted, the Hodge twins, right?

Double men twins. Yeah, I don't know. They're twins, whatever. They're good dudes, but it's a weird ad campaign for minty gum. So the Hodge twins came out and said, hey, Glenn Beck, is this true about you? I hope not. The breaking news that came out yesterday, Glenn Beck at Blaze TV is calling for NFL linebacker arrested for being at the Capitol building on January 6th, not to be pardoned by Donald Trump.

Huh? You think Gilles knows the name of an NFL linebacker? What are you, nuts? You do not need my new book to figure out that this is not true. Okay? There's no way I even know what you're talking about. Which NFL linebacker? That won't help me because I don't know any of them. Okay.

So that is got to be the one of the worst Internet rumors I've ever heard. OK, so they write and say, hey, Glenn Beck, is this true? I hope not. We know they all have got to be pardoned. You want pardons for all J6ers, right? Would would be easier to clear all this up.

Then one of my producers, Ricky, whose our realities are. She is. Oh, geez. She is. You know, I get Ricky pissed off. Do not piss off, Ricky. She was a little pissed off. Glenn has repeatedly called for all nonviolent offenders to be pardoned.

They respond, nonviolent is BS because the feds charged half the people with violence. They all have to be pardoned. If he only said nonviolent, then he is wrong and should be called out.

She said he's not talking about the what what the feds say who is violent and who isn't. The guy you quoted clearly clearly has not listened to a second of Glenn and is short of some brain cells. If someone is on camera beating a cop or smashing windows, then I mean, she said this. I didn't. They're a retard. And the president shouldn't be expected to pardon them. This is probably at the end of her day.

Which is that's that's right. It's right when she wakes up. Don't give her that's not the end of the day. She's going for it. Yes. Strangely, not that much worse than the beginning of her day. But so here's what I here's what I want to say on this. And I think this is really important. I am blanket statement for justice and equal justice. Anyone who has done wrong and broken the law should go to jail for the appropriate time.

If I believe if you are breaking windows of the Capitol or a Macy's building during a riot, if you are stealing stuff from Macy's or throwing flagpoles at police at the Capitol, jail time is warranted for you. Now, that's my blanket statement. Now, let's break that down a bit because it gets really hard in this case because

Because of the misconduct by the DOJ. For instance, have you seen the video of the woman who police say was violent? She was in a crowd in one of those tunnels just trying to get out. And she was trying to push her way out because it was getting very violent. And police pinned her up against the wall and then started beating her with a club. And she was the one charged. Okay, so...

I don't trust the charges that were presented in court. Now, I want you to know that my stance is a blanket statement. I'm for anybody who is violent going to jail. Anyone that could be proven violent should go to jail. A lot of footage. Yeah, in an equal justice sort of way.

This is Donald Trump's stance. He said there should be pardons based on a case-by-case basis. That's his stance as of what time is it right now. Okay, that's his stance. I think that's a reasonable stance. I want the same kind of justice for January Sixers as I want for BLM rioters. All Americans left and right should want this. Okay.

Now, with that said, here's one thing that you have to understand. If you want to go all John Adams, which I think you might have to on this, if you want to go all John Adams on this, what we do in our society and have long done in our justice system is

If those who committed a crime, even murder or any other heinous act, if the prosecution withheld information, which the DOJ did in this, worked in collusion against the defendant, any defendant,

then all need to be released as the entire pot has been contaminated. And as John Adams says, I would rather have five guilty men go free than one innocent man be wrongfully imprisoned. This is the standard the Justice Department has always held until recently. The problem that we're having with the January 6th thing

is stems from the misconduct of the Justice Department in collusion with the Capitol Police, in collusion with the media, in collusion with politicians. And anyone who actually cares about justice knows that this is the standard long held by the courts and Americans, any Americans, seeking true justice. If the prosecution has done anything wrong...

which they have, then everyone has to be released. That's John Adams stand. And I'm all for it. If we want to have that conversation blanket, I am for justice, but you cannot have justice. If your justice department is corrupt. Hmm. Yeah. I mean, I,

I don't know what's controversial about that viewpoint. I mean, you know, it never has been. I mean, there is a clear standard as to who should be released as being, you know, because they were too violent in these moments. And the standard is Donald Trump's eyeballs.

He has whatever power he wants to pardon these people. So the people he chooses are the ones that are going to get pardoned. I don't think if he sees... Donald Trump's pretty pro-police. If Donald Trump sees a video of a guy hitting a police officer over the head with a flagpole...

I don't think he's going to want to release those people with lesser punishment. Now, you might be right. Maybe he just does it all. He's talked about that, and he bounces around with a specific language. As of today, his latest thing is case by case. Yeah. But here's the problem. Let me play devil's advocate. Sure. Here's the problem with this. You have innocent people sitting in prison. Mm-hmm.

Because this is why we always release people. You know, you have a prosecutor that is found doing one thing wrong in one case. And if there is any kind of suspicion that that kind of behavior has happened with other cases, they dismiss all of them. They say tainted. This prosecutor is tainted.

And so we have to release all of them because there might be others that this happened to that are innocent sitting in jail. This is the penalty for the Justice Department. Hey, all that work you did, all that time and making the case, all the all of your prestige for, you know, being somebody who is bringing people to justice. It's all flushed down the toilet because you didn't do it right this one time or these three times.

OK, so you have innocent people sitting in jail. Why should they have to wait, which a process that could take months? Why should the innocent remain in prison so we can sort through and find the good ones and the bad guys?

Well, I mean, I think this, when it comes to pardoning, this is completely Donald Trump's call. Yeah. He has, this is his most king-like power, right? So he can do whatever he wants. And that is sort of the beginning and the end of the story. Yeah. So, you know, I mean, when it comes down to making these decisions, Donald Trump, it seems like, as we've seen over the past couple of weeks, has

has really been thinking about all of this stuff quite a bit. So my guess is he's got a pretty good handle on it as to the few people, I bet it's a few, that he thinks are over the line and should not be pardoned. But I mean, you of all people to be questioned on this, Steve Baker works here. He's one of the people that would need to be pardoned. He has also spent...

a good chunk of the past four years in courtrooms reporting on others who also should be out of prison. He's gone through thousands of hours of video to exonerate people who were involved, who were there on January 6th and charged falsely. I mean, the amount of work that the blaze has done by itself, uh,

I think as much or more than any other news organization out there to make sure the people responsible for overreach are called out and brought to the attention of someone like Donald Trump who can now do what he wants to do with it. So let me suggest something that I think is reasonable to suggest here. I'll do that in 60 seconds. So let's...

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Just the system as a punishment. Okay. Usually you go through a fair trial and everything else, but they dragged this out. They did everything they could to persecute these people for the last four years. Would you agree with that?

Yeah, they've. Yeah. I mean, like Jay Johnston is my example of this. Like guys seem to have done basically nothing. And now he's going to prison. Correct. And for the last four years, his life has been hanging in the balance. Okay. Steve Baker is another example of that. Never knowing. It is horrible what these people went through.

If you broke into Macy's, you would not spend more than four years in prison. Okay. Right. So I would suggest that everyone is released with time served. However, then you take it case by case and those who legitimately did something bad are

Those people do not have it wiped from the record. So they're not pardoned. Everybody gets time served. Then you pardon everybody. So it's wiped from your record. Everybody who was parading. Parading. Yeah. I mean, because that's the only thing I can think of that would be fair for everybody. You can't let innocent people sit in jail another day.

This should be one of the first things he does when he gets into office. But there were bad people. You know what this is? Look, there were good people on both sides. Not the Nazis. They're doing exactly the same thing. They're going to say Donald Trump is just letting everybody out. And they will use the few that actually did something wrong.

Meanwhile, we all know those who actually did a lot of the wrong or encouraged it have walked away. We don't know the pipe bomber because the cellular information was corrupt. Just that alone should be the end of January 6th, should be the end of it.

Just them saying for four years, well, it was corrupt. And now, because times have changed and everybody's worried that, oh, I'm going to get caught up in this. Now the cell phone companies come out and say, yeah, it wasn't corrupt. We gave them everything. That alone should be enough of a fraud on the American people and on everybody who was going to court to dismiss this from everybody.

But there were people that did wrong. Okay. So let's not pardon them, but time served. I mean, that's an approach. I think it's a valid one. Trying to be fair. Yeah, I think... Look, I...

I understand that right now there's... Donald Trump's going to come into office. He's going to make these decisions. We don't have any input on it. The input that we had on it was whether we voted for him or not. But we should have an opinion on it. Yeah, and my opinion is... Look...

If you beat the hell out of a police officer, I don't care. I don't care if you happen to do it on January 6th or any other day. You stay in prison for as long as your term is, and I don't feel bad about it for a second. I agree with you. I agree with you. However, we know they gave extended sentences, and we know this whole thing was corrupt from the start. So how do you not punish the people who are in prison? Their lives have been destroyed.

How do you get them out of jail today so they don't have to wait in line and spend another six months or a year in prison wrongfully?

Glenn Beck. All right. We're going to go to RFK. I have been waiting to talk to Stu about this. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. You know what? I'm in a good mood, though, Glenn. Okay, good. I don't know if you happened to watch some football last night, but Philadelphia defeating Washington in a glorious football game. And by the way, even to make it more glorious, I hit my prize picks lineup. And here's the thing.

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I want to talk about RFK. RFK has been named the HHS secretary. Nominated, yes. Nominated. He's going to get through. He's going to get through if they have recess appointments. I will say it's very likely he gets some Democrat votes. I mean, the first people off the bench to make sure they were cheering this on were Democrats. So very possible he gets a bunch of Democrat votes for this and he does get through if they go through confirmation. Let me ask you something.

They say that Donald Trump, you know, is so divisive and everything else. Can you think of any president that has ever put in a major role an icon of the other side? I can't. Neither can I. I mean, that...

I'll just ask, this is just a question. Yeah. Any part of you a little concerned that we now have two lifelong Democrats nominated to very high level positions? Not Tulsi. I'm not worried about Tulsi.

Good. I've had enough conversations, just the two of us, no cameras, no microphones, eye to eye. And look, Republicans are far from perfect. Yeah. So that's not to say that there are not Democrats with wonderful opinions. I'm a little, I'm a little, I get a little concerned when you have people who have a long-term view.

worldview that changes in a short period of time and then are elevated to high power, powerful positions in the government. I have, I don't trust RFK, you know, he's not personally, and I'm not one to judge, but the way he has dealt with women and it's the whole family. Okay. Uh, you know, not been good, not been good, not been good. Uh, and you know,

He's not being nominated for husband. That's the lady from Curb Your Enthusiasm's issue. So here's the thing with RFK. I have talked to him, and if I was to hold myself to the standard I have always applied to everyone else, if you can tell me long-held vision of something, and I'm right on this, and then you flip...

You should be able to tell me exactly when that happened. Exactly when you went, you know, enough is enough. Yeah. Okay. And he's certainly gone through stuff that would create a change like that. He's told me that. And he told me that story. It was during COVID. Was it censorship just of him? No. I don't remember. It was seeing the state starting to take things and going way overboard. He saw what...

He had always preached, but he thought that people would be more reasonable. Okay. He never thought, well, you know, my government, my people will never go wrong. We'll never do that. Just like many Republicans think, you know, their side. No, both people are in both parties.

People go wrong a lot. They go rogue and they go authoritarian. And so when he saw, especially in California and New York, what was happening and you were told you are not really a member of society unless you inject this into your body. He realized, holy cow, I've been wrong on this.

And he's been right on the issue of vaccine mandates for as long as I've known. He's never been a guy who's wanted vaccine mandates, but that's been, of course, the thing he opposed. The problem, of course, with authoritarians is they like to oppose, they like to support mandates on things they like and oppose them on things they don't. That's where I would disagree with his fundamental worldview. But he does claim to have changed that.

Correct. And the proof will be in the pudding. Yeah. You know, if he gets in and he starts taking away choices on things, then we know he really hasn't changed. What I'm looking for on the vaccine front, I happen to believe there's something wrong with the vaccines that we're doing. Maybe the combination of them. I don't know what it is. But when your kids are getting 30 to 80 different vaccines every

and autism is going through the roof, something's wrong. It's like the peanut allergy thing. I don't know what causes that, but it wasn't happening to us when I was a kid. I mean, you could have slathered peanut butter on the top of everybody's desk in every classroom in America when I was going to school, and nobody would be like, I got peanut allergies. Wouldn't have happened.

So what happened to us? And it is important that we look into that. That doesn't mean that you have to be forced to, you know, get rid of Jif or whatever it is, unless it's clearly poison, which it's not. I want to know what's happening to our health, why our bodies are like this. I happen to believe that there is too much, um,

Too much in heavily or what do they call it? Ultra processed foods, which have saved the world from starving. I mean, it's a balancing act. It has saved the world from starving. However, in our case, because we're never starving here.

Has this been whacked way out of balance for America? I don't know the answer, but I think that's what science should be looking into. Not our HHS secretary saying, you know, we're looking into global warming because it affects the health of black children.

What are you talking about? Okay. Studies, by the way, RFK would have absolutely adored not too long ago. Maybe. I don't know. I trust him about as far as I can throw in. And you do know he was up for – he was going to be also – this is not the first cabinet position he's been considered for. The other one was EPA head under Barack Obama. Which would have been a nightmare. Right. Would have been a nightmare. And look – And Donald Trump knows that. I mean – Yep.

Donald Trump has said on stage, he has said it in person, I know what we have here. He's got radical ideas. And as long as he stays in his lane and we're not going, you know, all over with global warming and everything else.

I think we should listen to him. We should be clear. His lane in this particular case is running an operation with a $2 trillion budget. I know that. So I, can he improve it? I'm sure there are improvements. He can make things like over, you know, trying to, you know, vaccine mandates is the easiest one, right? I, I, I,

don't necessarily agree with you on vaccines. Obviously, there are many arguments that you know well that would push back against the things that you're concerned about. And you can choose yourself whether you vaccinated your kids or not. And I can get to choose that for me. And I think if he has had this change from authoritarian, which I don't think there's any question that's what he was. I mean, obviously. Oh, he said it. Yeah, he.

He told me he was. He was that guy. If he's had that change from that to a person who respects personal liberties, I think he has in some areas. I'm concerned when he's convinced he's right about something that those inclinations go away. And that's where President Trump comes in.

I hope so. Yes. And look, Trump, look, Trump loves his he's famous for bringing McDonald's to football. I know he's not going to not like some crude when it comes to ingredients. He likes his food. He likes, you know, there's no question about that. Here's what Robert F. Kennedy should be encouraged to do. First of all, I don't trust science anymore. Do you?

I mean, you trust something, right? You're trusting something. You're trusting the RFK version of science. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, I don't. Because I don't know. Everything's been politicized. Yeah, that's true. So, you know, I don't trust. I'm looking for...

Gravity exists. That's what I'm looking for. The planet is round. Oh, don't get the people started. You're getting them started now. So I'm looking for things that are universally true and are not changed by politics or opinions of anyone. This is true. Mm-hmm.

I don't know if we have those scientists anymore because the whole system has been so corrupted. We have some. Yeah, I think we have many. I think we have a lot of really good scientists who do a lot of really good work. So do I trust science? Yeah, I trust science. But I don't trust necessarily the public messengers of science. And that, look, includes R.F. King Jr.,

I know that. I don't trust. That's just who. And that's why I always feel like the answer at the end of this is individual freedom. It is. Individual ability to make choices. And if we start banning things because RFK Jr. doesn't like them, I'm against that. Here's what I'm. Here's what I. Whether you think they're good or not. Right. Let me go back to what I was going to say on what his main. This is what he should concentrate on. Mm hmm.

Getting the pharmaceutical companies and big food and I don't even care if it's big spoon, big bowl, big fat guys. Anybody who is is out there that benefits from what the FDA approves and doesn't.

I don't want revolving doors where you're working for the FDA and then you get a sweetheart gig at some food or pharmaceutical company. I don't want that. They should be adversaries. They should be reasonable, but you can't keep going from one to the other. He's got to clean up this nightmare of Christ.

crony capitalism. It's a problem, although it's also a challenging problem because, of course, who knows about capitalism?

pharmaceutical medications other than people. You don't come from the janitor industry and become an expert on this. You have to have some experience in understanding how it works. But you're right. It should not be. Corny capitalism is wrong. And I always hate that term because it's not capitalism. No, it's not. When the government has a lot of power to do things over corporations, it's not capitalism at all. Socialism or fascism. So here's the thing. There are enough

really well-qualified doctors, we found them during COVID, that they like science. They like doctors. They like medicines. It's true. They don't like the lies that are involved and the money that is exchanging hands behind the scenes in record numbers. I'm against that. I think you're against that. That's what...

I hope RFK does. Yeah, and he may. I think he will on some things. I am legitimately concerned about it. I don't think it's a great appointment. I would pick somebody else. And if you were going to give RFK Jr. a role, I would prefer it to be in more of an adversarial role, an advisory role, right? Something that they can just say, okay, no, the

The problem is you put him in as HHS secretary. When you don't want to replace him, you're talking about another confirmation process. So he's going to have a lot of leeway and I think probably too much leeway. But I don't know. Let me take a quick break and come back on this because regulation is one of the top priorities for him. Just slashing regulation. Trump. RFK. He's like the FDA is so corrupt it should almost be shut down.

He may have said it should be shut down. Let me start there when we come back. First, let me talk to you about the ministry of pre-born. They are doing, I mean, they are the champions of the cause. First of all, I said this in a speech the other day. I was talking to a bunch of Catholics about abortion, and I have to tip the hat to the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church cared about abortion before anybody else cared, and they've been fighting on the front lines forever. Now, pre-born has come in in the last, I don't know, decade or two,

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Just cut the federal regulations like crazy. Now, some people are going to say, you can't do that. Raw milk. Oh, shut up. 30 states say it's okay for raw milk. Yeah. Okay. The FBI has made it almost. I'm not sorry. The FDA has made it almost impossible. The Amish.

They've never had anyone getting sick from their milk. And yet the FDA was in their face all the time trying to shut them down. In a way, I'm glad they were because they came out and voted. I know. It actually worked against them. And I appreciate that. So, you know, there's stuff that we know.

And, you know, you can have standards. The problem is, is there fecal material on the cow's teat? As long as they're clean. I know. As long as it's clean and sanitary, you don't have a problem. You don't need the pasteurization. Okay. Okay. He needs to cut these things out. Do you know how yellow fruit loops are, how that came to be?

Yellow number five. They went to the FDA and they said, hey, we want to make free loops. We want to make them yellow. They said, OK, prove that they're safe. Wait until you hear the process on how they're made. It's insane. It's absolute corruption. It is a money laundering system that has to come to an end. I'll explain it coming up. The Glenn Beck program. Let me tell you about Rough Greens.

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All right, Jason, I know you're here to talk about UFOs and other crazy stuff, but I want to continue this conversation. And you did the research for a show that we did on the FDA. Crazy. Crazy. It's crazy. And I think this is the kind of stuff that I want RFK to dismantle. I want him to dismantle.

the money going back and forth from the drug companies, the revolving door, you know, then Bush, God, why would I think of him? Trump is doing this with big tech too. You work for the government, you are not going to work for big tech for 10 years. Good. Same thing should be true with pharmaceutical companies and big food. And here's why.

Fruit Loops comes to the FDA and they say, we want to make a new product called Fruit Loops.

And we want to make some of them yellow. So we need, what is it, yellow number five? One of those numbers. Yeah, one of those numbers. Sounds like concentration camp chemical, really, whatever it is. So yellow number five. Delicious concentration camp chemical. So the FDA says, okay, well, you have to prove that yellow number five is good, is okay to put in.

They don't take a percentage of how many people have we said yellow number five is okay for so if it's in everybody's food that changes all the calculations, but forget about that. We're only talking about Froot Loops. So they say you have to show us the study. So now think of global warming. The food company goes to their group of known and trusted scientists and say,

We need a study that shows yellow number five is safe.

And they're like, oh, we're going to do that study. It's going to be fair and balanced and totally on the up and up. You seem skeptical. A little bit. Just like I am with studies that are paid for by the people who are going to benefit from that study. It's not neutral. The FDA then is given that study after it comes back and says yellow number five is fine.

They've given that study, and so the FDA says, okay, so the study, you got the scientists to approve. Uh-huh. And it was a really tough fight. They really dug deep. So, okay, good. We'll approve it. Give us how much money is it? You remember? Oh, it's insane, and it's per batch. Yeah. So it's not just, yeah, we've proven it, so okay this for Froot Loops.

It's every time that they have to, they make a new batch of Fruit Loops and they're pouring yellow number five in, they have to apply for a new license for that batch. Okay. Well, wait, it's either good or it's not. Why? Let me ask you something.

Why do you keep coming to me and giving me all this money? You know what I mean? Maybe someday I can do something for you, you know? Maybe, hey, I got a job opening. Maybe one of you guys want to come over here and release things with us. That's the problem. And that's what I hope they get rid of. Are you looking for the FDA to do more or less in this process? I'm looking for somebody that is neutral.

Right. But I'm asking specifically the FDA, which I guess in this theory, in this concept here, we're calling FDA neutral, which I don't know that we necessarily agree with. But in theory, they're the neutral party here.

which is, I think has all sorts of problems. So like my, my, I think what you're describing is a funding mechanism, right? FDA is massive. It costs a lot of money and they're paying for the FDA to continue to go. Half of half of the money from the FDA. Okay. Half of their budget comes from food and pharmaceutical companies. Right. So like, let's say if you stop that,

You'd cut the FDA in half. Yes. And you, and that's, so that's the direction we're looking for. We want less input from the FDA. I want less input from the FDA. And I want an end to the revolving door and the obvious corruption that's coming from money. So when you say the, a funding issue that translated is a crony issue. This is everything that the left used to hate everything. It's everything. Like I,

I'm a libertarian more than anything else. I guess I'm libertarian light. So when I first heard about this, I got the person that actually did the bulk of this research was one of the biggest hippies on our team. You know who I'm talking about. One of the biggest hippies. And I was like... You know who it is. Dope smoking Kev. Not that one. The other big hippie. Oh, okay. But when I was like, food? I don't give a crap.

I don't get it. Like, if I want to poison my body, I want to poison my body. But then when it got me was when I saw the cronyism angle. And that's why I don't get libertarians on this. This is everything they hate and the left hate used to be about big government.

They are getting rich off of an alliance with a lot of these companies. And it appears as though science takes a back seat. They're sitting in the back of the bus. The experts, and you can apply this to everything that we hate now about big government, like climate. Anything else, the push for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah from the progressive agenda right now, where they say, oh, but the experts are telling us this. Well, the experts are employed-

by the people pushing their poison. Okay. And it's paid directly to... If you understand why we have a problem with climate science, just take what you know about climate science, that this is all being done by the people who want this to be real because they want...

They want the money to keep coming in. You're not denying the planet is going to kill us all within five minutes. You're not getting any money if your study comes out and says, no, that's not true. You don't get money. So the scientists sometimes will come back with the results that the people paying for it want.

This would be like if Elon Musk wants to sell his EVs. And he produces this huge report saying that the world is spontaneously going to combust in just two years unless you adhere to his research that his scientists did and

And trust us. It's great. And by the way, the lithium battery study that I just did, fires don't start with lithium batteries. There's not a problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the issue is that you believe that these food companies are proving things that are theoretically not helpful or that are harmful. And then they're producing these studies and they're giving them to the FDA and the FDA is just approving them.

So would you be and the FDA is not, you know, the FDA? I'm sketchy on this one. You might be able to help me out on this. The FDA made the food pyramid, the food pyramid that we've all grown up saying this is absolutely right. They designed that through the food companies.

Okay. So... It should be through science and through knowing what is... So who's doing these studies if the food companies aren't paying for them? Who's paying for them? The food companies are. The food companies paying for them? I'm saying in your vision of the future. I think there could be a tax on these food companies or pharmaceutical companies. So they would still be paying for them. They'd still be paying for them, but they're not picking the scientists and it's not just...

The scientists at General Foods say. So you want a larger role for the FDA. It should be on the FDA. Because they're deciding who the scientists are. They are the regulator. It should be on them to prove if it's safe or not. Aren't you answering your own questions why libertarians don't like it? You're arguing for a larger role for the FDA. That's why they don't like it. Larger responsibility. Right. My vision, I'm much more on the side of the FDA has nothing to do with us.

Like, I would much rather have the FDA basically shut down and not have any role in this whatsoever. Now, that is a it's an old school American view. But it is I don't like government control of this stuff and government input. So but I think that's why the libertarians don't like it. Right. Like what what what what what they're doing now, if I'm understanding this correctly, is that the companies are basically on their own to come up with science that proves this. And the FDA basically goes along with it.

For money. For money. Right. And jobs. But again, half of their budget, right? The other alternative to fund that half of the budget is taxpayers. That's the other alternative. Or taxing.

Or taxing the food companies. Okay, yeah. And the pharmaceuticals. Right. Okay? You want this service. Either way, we're paying for it eventually, right? We're paying for it in our food or we're paying for it in our taxes. So, again, I can understand the problems with this. And this, of course, is true, right? Companies constantly produce science that helps themselves. It happens in global warming and everything else. I just think that, like, my view...

I'm concerned. Here's my concern. Here's my concern. I don't want the I'm from a conservative movement that doesn't want the federal government to make me healthy.

I agree with that. I'm from a vision of conservatism that doesn't want the federal government to make me anything. Correct. I am from, this is a line in the sand for me, and I know a lot of people don't care about it, but I am from the conservative movement that yells at Michael Bloomberg for getting rid of large sodas. That's me. That's me too. That is 100% me. I've seen Jason too much at Taco Bell to know that he is, I know he's on my side on that part of it. I do not want, I don't want the government to tell me what I can eat, what I can't eat.

But I would like some science to say, hey, Stu, not good. And not from Monsanto and not necessarily from the government that wants to control everything. There should be a way to...

to get neutral science, but we don't have that now. And honestly, I... There's been a lot of neutral science produced about food coloring. A lot of it. Yeah, yeah. And like, you know, you can choose whether to like those studies. There has been some that have some indications of negative aspects. There have been many, many that have been like, eh, doesn't seem like there's much here. But like, you know...

That being said, the government comes in and if the government approves a study, is that now gospel? I don't think that's what we want. Science is always changing. Yeah. I mean, it's not. It's evolving. But our understanding of it is always changing. Our understanding. Science doesn't change. But like, you know...

I am concerned because, look, this is a guy, RFK Jr., who has a very strong opinion on a lot of things. And it is not my disagreement with him is that, well, scientific consensus says X, Y, and Z, therefore he's bad. That's not what my belief is at all. He has in his head his own consensus.

And he is going to try. I believe I'm concerned about that. He is going to apply his mental consensus over a lot of things that I don't necessarily want changed. I want to make the decisions for myself. And as long as we live in a world where if he what he ends up doing with this role is saying, hey, you can sell raw milk all over the place. I'm not going to be concerned about it at all. Here's here's the thing. You you've I learned this 50 years ago, 40 years ago.

It's never a problem if you're selling a Volkswagen and the client buys it and you've paid for a Volkswagen and it runs like a Rolls Royce.

No, it's great. If you buy a Rolls Royce and it runs like a Volkswagen, there's hell to be paid. Yes. So what he is selling us, his Rolls Royce that he is selling us right now is we're going to cut regulation. We're going to get out and make things your choice and give you the transparency that you need to make good choices. But we're not going to force anybody to do anything. Okay.

That's the Rolls Royce that he's promising. If he starts to run the Volkswagen way, which is more federal regulation, less choice, then they'll be held to be paid because you're not... That's not what you're selling us right now. Yeah, I think... Would you agree with that? Yeah, look, I...

He's going to do some things I'm really going to like, I'm sure, of it. I think it's baby steps. I would love to get rid of the FDA as well. You know me. I would love to just dismantle 95% of the bureaucracy. But let's take baby steps. Let's at least start with, let's not let them collude with Big Food, Big Pharma, and all that. Make a ton of money off of our expense. I'd love to just start there. I actually think, I mean, he has said himself the FDA should be shut down.

And he said 90% of it should be shut down immediately. I'm all for that. I don't need a baby step. I'm ready. Okay, let's do that. You know.

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He's always taken them, but he has always said, don't give them. But I'm not going to leave something on the table that you're offering everybody else. That's Donald Trump's issue with the tax code. Look, I have lawyers. You want me to pay more than fine.

Change the law. Otherwise, I'm saving every dime legally that I can. Even Ayn Rand talked about this concept. Yes. And Elon Musk came out yesterday and said, I want that to go away. He said, we should not spend a dime on

on charging stations? No. - Zero dollars. - Zero dollars. He said, "Did we do federal funding for gasoline stations?" No. - I was reading this amazing analysis on what he did that's just so unorthodox. Like he gave patents away. Said, "I'm not patenting these things."

I'll give you the technology. He just gave the technology over to BMW. Why? Because he knew he was making these gigafactories pumping out batteries. He was growing the market. This guy's a genius. He was growing the market by doing it so unorthodox. Now he's the largest manufacturer ever, and he did it completely different from the way it's been done before. Insane. I think that is...

That's using universal law, though. Yeah. Give and you get more back. So instead of holding everything so tight, he was like, no, take it. Take it. And because of that, he got more back. Yeah. He's remarkable. Still worry about.

About his endgame of complete and total domination of all mankind. We'll worry about that later. Yeah, let's not talk about that now. That's not a problem. Not a problem at all. We also need to talk about... Speaking of world domination, do we get to the aliens thing? No, we're going to get to that. You promised aliens talk. I know, I know, I know. We're running out of time. We'll get to that. Come back in about an hour. I'll come back. Because we have Alex Jones on.

Yesterday was a bizarre day. So in what can only be called a bad business deal for the onion, the onion supposedly bought at auction, a federal auction, InfoWars.

Well, as it turns out, did they? Maybe not. Did they really? Got a lot of press about it. Yeah. Just paused it. And it looks like, yeah, because the feds in this open auction did not take the highest bidder. Alex explains when we come back. Glenn Beck. In this time of inflation, which hopefully will be coming to an end. Thank you very much, Joe Biden.

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Welcome back to the Glenn Beck program. We have Alex Jones joining us in just a minute. I want to remind you.

of the First Amendment. The First Amendment says freedom of speech shall not be infringed. So when you are offering your opinion on something, the government has no right to stop you from saying it unless it is to cause a riot against

And it results immediately in a riot. Can't be something that you've planted the seeds and then somebody riots two weeks later. It has to be an immediate riot. That is the Supreme Court's definition of not crying fire in a crowded movie house. The Eighth Amendment is the one that says no cruel or unusual punishments

And no excessive fines shall be imposed. What happened to Alex Jones? I don't care what you think of him, what he said. I don't care. The First and Eighth Amendment are being violated by our government right now.

First Amendment's easy. No excessive fines. He was fined $1.5 billion, and that came down from the, what, $2 trillion that they first said that he had to pay? $1.5 billion. The guy in his entire lifetime has made about $50 million. There's no way he could ever pay that fine off. That's excessive. That's an excessive fine.

What happened yesterday was the government was supposed to auction off InfoWars. Now, if it's about retribution, what do you do? You try to keep this guy unemployed. But if you're trying to restore and make things whole again, well, you would go to the highest bidder, would you not?

Because you're trying to pay that fine and that's going to make apparently these families whole. Well, the government passed up the highest bidder. Why? Because they said that this would allow Alex Jones...

unusual and cruel punishment from being able to run it or be involved in it. They wanted to give it to the Sandy Hook family. So the Sandy Hook family said, okay, yeah, when he gives us the 1.5 billion, then we'll kick in the extra. That's not the way it, I've been involved in auctions before. Never did they let me bid on something and get it because I said, yeah, but I'm going to get a raise, I'm sure in the next couple of years. So let me buy it and I'll pay you then. Doesn't work that way.

Alex Jones, the founder of the Alex Jones Network and InfoWars, joins us now. Hello, Alex. Did I get any of this wrong?

Glenn, I'm not kissing your butt. I'm absolutely stunned how you boiled down in two minutes what I've tried to explain. You absolutely, 100%, hole-in-one nailed it. But I've got major breaking news. I'm getting chills right now. And I'm going to tell people first off, the FBI testified in the show trial in Connecticut two years ago on TV. I didn't know this until then. They hit it in plain view that their chief counsel in Connecticut created the suits, organized the people,

They got the PR firms, they hyped up and exaggerated what I did for two years, use my name to raise money for their anti-gun, anti-first amendment groups.

And then sued me, then found me in default, said I was guilty, and then had show trials literally produced by HBO. Now, moving on from that, the federal judge, Lopez, just two months ago, very famously, when the last CRO and U.S. trustee appointed by the Justice Department, the judge agreed to it,

because they wanted to come into the case because it's so publicized, the Justice Department can do that. They have a whole office of bankruptcy. They then tried to close the doors in late May without a court order. We got a hearing in two weeks. I refused to let them close the doors. I said I'd call the police when they came and told me to get out of the building. And

Then the judge fired the federal trustee and the CRO, but appointed a new one that was next to the rotation. Now, the new one comes in and says, okay, well, Alex Jones is in bankruptcy too. We're going to move to sell it at auction.

The judge says yes, but then they come out a few months ago, it was all over the news, and the trustee said, I'm going to sell the name Alex Jones Show, and I'm going to sell the name Real Alex Jones on X. Elon Musk lawyers got involved. They were there, by the way. That's impossible.

It gets worse, but here's the new news. The judge a month ago in a hearing said, no, you must have new hearings on when you're going to have an auction. And we have to have hearings on this. So they withdrew their claim on my name. Uh, Chris Murray, the new trustee, and this is all in the news and the transcripts are public from the hearing yesterday. He, without the judge's authorization, the judge said this went ahead with the auction and,

But here's the breaking news. The judge said, this is even in Bloomberg yesterday, I did not authorize you to have this auction. We were supposed to have hearings because you were making claims that violate the 13th Amendment against slavery. It's not just the 8th and the 1st they're violating, as you just said. And then Chris Murray is in Bloomberg and in the filing saying the 13th Amendment does not apply to Alex Jones, close quote, in a filing. So all of those amendments are attempting to be destroyed.

Then I waited the entire stay until I said this to all my lawyers. Some of them are the top bankruptcy people said I'm authorized to say this literally 30 minutes ago. The filings will be filed within one hour. Now, get ready for this. Not only did they have this fake information.

auction. The judge said it was fake. They took $1.7 million cash, as you just said, pledged the rest in future money they get from me when the judge's order was it's a cash auction. And now basically this is what the judge said. This was a private secret sale disguised as an auction. Yep. They then, they then ignored the,

the highest bid that was way, way, way, way, way, way larger. And then the judge then excoriated them and said, well,

The judge then excoriated them and said, we are now going to have a full evidentiary hearing sometime next week. And my lawyers are filing. They say it's cut and dry. They're not bomb throwers. Cut and dry in their own admissions and Murray's own admissions on the stand that they had bid collusion because none of the bidders are supposed to talk to each other. You have to disclose if there's another group. You have to disclose if you're going to change the auction.

and then now claim that it's not cash, it's a credit auction, but they didn't even do that. And here's the key. Murray put out two months ago for the auction that November 8th was the last day to have your first initial bid in, and it would be online with a big auction company, and people could bid up. That's the definition of an auction is sold to the highest bidder in Webster's Dictionary. So then they have this private sale disguised as an auction. Then they announce on Monday that,

the 11th at 2 p.m. via email to my lawyers and everybody, we're disregarding the old auction filings and the money that was put down and the non-disclosures that were signed and the regular federal contracts that follow law. We're now going to have sealed bids in on Wednesday, November 13th at 10 a.m. There will be no further bids above that, which is not an auction, but

And then we will choose, including we reserve the right to take a lesser bid. So it was already fixed then. And then that went forward. So this is 100%, 100% cut and dry legal. Sorry. No, here's the thing, Alex. You know, a settlement against somebody is to make the people that are suing whole. There is a difference between restoration and retribution, right?

If the people want that, you know, we're not going after retribution, but restoration, then that fine that you got, then you had to pay the families, was to restore them. They can't suddenly say, well, we'll get this money from Alex while we take away his business and even his name.

You're not going to get any money from Alex. And the reason why you would have an auction when somebody goes bankrupt is to make the other people whole. This is clearly about retribution. And Glenn, you're absolutely right. They said on the courthouse steps in both rig cases and they said in their filings and they said in the onion announcement, this is about punishing him and taking him off the air. And the Democrat lawyer that runs all this,

Absolutely. And the head Democrat lawyer out of Connecticut that runs all this said on ABC News last night, Alex Jones's punishment has just begun. Listen, they turned down $70 million from me that I agreed to pay out over a period of years that I wasn't even sure I could make. More money than, as you said, rightfully than I've ever made. And so they admit this. They're not even denying it. What's crazy is they're so arrogant that when the judge said, do an auction,

months ago, they acted like they were going to do an auction up to two days before, less than 48 hours before on Monday afternoon. They throw out the real auction, pretend they have an auction, and this is cut and dry. And then they admit that they did all of this. And again, the judge's order said a cash

auction. This wasn't even a credit auction, as you said, promising my future earnings for them to be able to buy my company. It is so ridiculously fraudulent on its face that my lawyers are...

right now that they would try this. But again, they admit that the Justice Department is heavily involved in directing all of this, just like they got caught directing all the lawfare against Trump. And they admit on MSNBC and CNN, this model being used against me, if they're successful, will then be used. And they've literally said the names in previous shows years ago, Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck. So I don't know if you've seen those newscasts. I can send them

to you. He has sent them to me. I'd like to see that. Look, Alex, Trump won. We are cleaning out the DOJ. I

I don't want to get involved in lawsuits because I'm not a judge, I'm not an attorney, and I'm not a jury. But I will insert myself when you see clear injustice against the Constitution. And I can quote the 8th and the 1st. I hadn't thought of the 13th, but you say your attorney quoted that one. It is clear that this is cruel and unusual punishment against

It is also retribution and an excessive fine. And it's all based on freedom of speech. This is not going to stand, Alex. And I hope that when the DOJ is cleaned up, this comes up and they prosecute anyone who did anything illegal in this case.

I totally agree. And, and one of you have time, just one last key point, it gets worse. So they have the secret fake auction, um, Wednesday at 10 30. They say, we'll tell you sometime tomorrow morning. I figure something's going on. So I get to the office right at seven 30 when the call and the emails come through to my lawyers, uh,

that you didn't get your IP, you didn't get your equipment, you didn't get everything, nothing. And then Chris Murray, the U.S. trustee, shows up at 8 a.m. right as I go on one of my other hosts has a live show, so I took it over at 8 a.m., and I'm there, and he's ordering my crew, saying, I'm a federal agent, because when he does his little hearings, he has the Justice Department seal behind him. He says, you were ordered

to turn this off or i'm going to you know have you violating the stay you're going to get in trouble

with the court. So he basically intimidated my IT people to at 1030 in the morning, pull the plug on live broadcast when it wasn't a real auction. The judge hadn't authorized an auction yet. He had just authorized to have one in the future. And the judge said all this in court, your say, so they literally hijacked the building, turned the power off, turn the satellite off the radio and TV stations. Luckily we built a

a backup studio, which we're calling the Alex Jones Network. People can follow that on X at AJN Live or Real Alex Jones. And luckily, we got in contact with most of our radio stations and only five minutes late,

got our satellite link that was already up and ready, you know, to them. But this is literally, I'm not exaggerating any of this is all going to be filed in federal court today. Anybody listening that says this doesn't sound real. I understand it's in Bloomberg. It's everywhere. If you read deeper in the articles,

that the judge, quote, you know, has serious questions about transparency, that he said the sale didn't go through. And here they are everywhere saying the onion bought it and all this, and it's not even true. So imagine, and all that people I've talked to said there's no way the judge doesn't at least order a new real auction. But there's probably going to be more. The law says...

that the real big better by law it will be forfeited to them and they wouldn't have to face the jeopardy of another another option so there's a very good chance with these emergency injunctions today that i will be back in control of the info wars building and studios in systems

perhaps by this afternoon, but 99% chance by the full evidentiary hearing next week when this is epic desperateness and vigilantism by the desperate left. Thank you very much, Alex Jones. You can follow him at alexjones.network, alexjones.network, and of course on X at X.

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Tyson. I know, but it's a 26. Like we're going to say basketball, a 60 year old Michael Jordan versus, you know, probably Jordan would still win that. Yeah. OK. The Glenn Beck program. So let me talk to you a little bit about Jace Medical. Trump is coming back into office and, you know, I think everybody right now is going to this is going to be great. Well, it could be could be a nightmare to the left is not just going to roll over.

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Democrats are just as susceptible to conspiracy theories and quack science as they claim Republicans are. Democrats have not accepted the results of a presidential loss in decades. They are the original election deniers. Democrats believe shadowy foreigners control our elections. Democrats have convinced themselves that books are being banned. They're not. And one state even banned the word gay. They didn't.

Is that a word?

Working themselves and their voters into frenzies over the claims like the world's not going to, you know, end in 10 years. It might end in five years. We've got to get this done right now. Democrats believe that social conservatives are plotting a theocracy. Democrats believe conspiracies about our history, including that the Constitution is a document for white supremacists.

The left keeps falling for the racial hoaxes. And polling shows Democrats are more likely to be Holocaust deniers and 9-11 truthers. This is the rise of Blue Anon. Blue Anon. It's the name of a new book, Rise of Blue Anon, by good friend of the program, David Harsanyi. He joins me in 60 seconds.

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I'm doing well. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah. So right now, can we play this audio that's coming out of Pennsylvania where the Democrats are now admitting that they are counting illegal votes? Listen to this. We reject all three categories of these ballots. Your motion is to reject or dismiss the challenges in this category in front of you? Correct. Yep.

David, that's a little astounding.

Is it just us? No. It is funny that these were the people who were crying about the end of democracy and framing Trump as a Nazi. But the truth always was that they were the ones who wanted to pack the court. They were the ones who want to get rid of the electoral college. They're the ones who use executive power to do whatever they want. I mean, that's always been the case.

So you I mean, you came up with some amazing facts that you lay out in your book that they are more susceptible. This is the one that blows my mind. More susceptible, more likely to be Holocaust deniers and 9-11 truthers than the Republicans are. I mean, we have our own probably just that Alex Jones on. We have our own problems on the right where there's conspiracy theories and everything else.

But this, what's happening now with the side of the blue is...

It's mainstream. It's Rachel Maddow, right? Yeah, no, that's exactly right. So I lay out the history of my book. This didn't just start yesterday. But the difference between Alex Jones and Rachel Maddow and, say, the Russia collusion thing is that the left will take a conspiracy theory. They launder it through the media. They polish it up with high production values. They calibrate it to be plausible. Then they bring in people we used to trust today.

who are experts, you know, and former intelligence service officers, things like that, who will spread the conspiracy theory. It's very difficult to debunk something like that. And people are more prone to believe it. I forget the exact number, but it was maybe 60 percent almost of Democrats believe that Russians had actually changed the vote tallies. Not that they had sent some Facebook ads, but that they had changed vote tallies. I mean, what was the percentage of that?

Like 58%, something very high. What? Of Democrats, yeah. There's absolutely no evidence of that. Yeah, they don't need evidence as we've seen. So how do you break this?

It's difficult because first, everyone, and it's already happening, will stop trusting institutions that tell them these things once they are debunked. Then there's no one to trust. And that's not a good thing because, you know, yes, the media is terrible and all that. But you do need someone to watch over both parties and you want them to do that in a real way. It used to be biased, but now it's just complete activism. So you can't trust them.

So that has to break down and I guess it has to be rebuilt. But I don't think that happens very quickly because the entire culture of journalism, the entire culture in these giant agencies is all wrong. It's demented. So is there any hope among a libertarian like yourself that the country seems to be on track to just thrive?

throw them all out and shut down as much of this government as possible. Does that give you hope? Yeah, I think I am. Yes, the hope I have because of this election is that people stop listening to those agencies. People stop listening to the media. They didn't believe that Trump was Hitler. You see that in that every

every minority vote basically move towards Trump. I don't view this election really as a Republican win as much as I do just a normie win. I think Trump is just kind of, you know, here's another thing. Everyone always on the left that talks about Trump like he's this extremist. His policy positions are

incredibly moderate, I think. I mean, there are things that people like to hear and want, and there's a normalcy to it. Like, you know, I kind of think that the closest person to him is probably Harding, you know, who brought back normalcy after Wilson. So I don't know. I'm hoping he'll be more like Coolidge, who followed Harding and really got the job done.

Yeah. I mean, I think they were both great, but yeah, Coolidge definitely got the job done. David, can you go back to the history of the left of these conspiracy theories? Because I remember when there was the birther thing was going on, and that was all over the place. It was constantly covered. And we would look back at polls of, let's say, the Bush era around 9-11, and

And Democrats overwhelmingly believed that George W. Bush was involved in 9-11. Like this was not this is not something that blowing it up. Yeah, not just like, oh, I turned my eyes away, but like blowing it up.

Yeah. I mean, think about the difference. Michael Moore got a standing ovation at the Oscars in whatever year that was, 2006 maybe. For a documentary, there's a completely nut job crank conspiracy theory movie, right? It was just nuts. It was one of the biggest...

You know, it earned more money than almost any documentary. I think at the time it was the biggest. It was. And the birther thing, everyone rejected that. McCain rejected that publicly. I don't know if you guys remember. There was like some kind of a town hall and he rejected that. And I don't think any person of, you know, who was elected made a big deal out of Donald Trump, I guess. But the thing is, it's fine to ask questions about.

Any anything an election I think at least about his birth certificate. There's nothing wrong with that I think that once though the things are debunked and you still believe them That's the problem and Republicans don't do that as much as Democrats if you ask anyone who you know a Democrat who was around who won the 2000 election they'll tell you it was stolen and

there have been independent recounts of Florida that show that George Bush actually got more votes than were counted originally, but none of that will ever stop them from saying it. And people forget 2004, they did the same thing. Every major Democrat said that the machines in Ohio had cheated somehow. And you know,

They're they never pay a price for it. I just watched the video, I don't know, about a month or two ago of all the House members that stood up and wanted to cancel the Electoral College, the vote and not seat the electors saying that, you know, this was this was a false count.

And they needed to start all over again. I don't know if that was in the December after that election or January 6th, but everything they claimed Donald Trump was doing, they did. And I bet they'll do it again.

A lot of projection. Absolutely. With the election denialism. I'll tell you the most, another one that's just really pernicious and actually just evil in a way is, and it's not just, my book is not just about conspiracy theories. It's just about a paranoid style of politics is the idea that black people can vote, the suppression of the vote. It's easier to vote today than it ever

ever has been in any place ever in the world. And yet many black people, over 60% think that they're being stopped from voting. So they think that white policemen are hunting them in the streets. None of this is true. Now I'm not saying there are racists, of course there are racists, but the idea that there's a systemic, you know, effort by white people just because of the color of their skin to suppress black people, that's an evil thing to convince people of. They don't think they have agency. And, um, you know, and that happens because of paranoia, I think.

Where do you think, instead of saying where did this really begin, what is it that sets us apart, Republicans or right and left, that makes them inherently easier to fall into these conspiracy theories?

In a way, weirdly, I think it's kind of laziness. So during the Obama years, if you said anything critical, they would just call you a racist. It's a way not to debate. So now if I say whatever I say, people will accuse me of being bought by someone. I'm being paid by, you know, Elon Musk or I'm a Russian dupe or, you know, so I think that people get lazy and then, you know, it evolved into you're a Nazi or, you know, you're Hitler.

And I'm not sure there's any place to go after Hitler. He's probably the worst. But they've been calling people Hitler literally since Eisenhower, who defeated Hitler.

But it wasn't as mainstream. People would make comments and it would be frowned upon. But let's be honest, the whole. So I was watching because of schadenfreude. I was watching MSNBC as the election went to Trump. And it wasn't like they started saying, maybe we shouldn't have been calling everyone Hitler. They were saying, how could all these people vote for Hitler? I mean, they're not convinced. So the incentives are all wrong. Yeah, I know.

I know that's not what your book's about with the media per se and what's going to come, but

What do you think happens to the mainstream media? I mean, I think they were the biggest besides the Kamala. They were the biggest loser this election. They have it is clear that no matter how much they collude, how much money they spend, no matter how they all walk in lockstep from movies to, you know, to shows in arenas to the TV, it doesn't matter. People are done.

What happens to them? Can they ever get that credibility back? Yeah, sure they can. But again, like I just said, I don't think the incentives are right yet. It's not like it's not a job. They're out of job. The networks are going away. What kind of incentive do they need?

I don't know. But think about how the Washington Post just wouldn't endorse and the whole place had a meltdown. So there's a cultural problem. It's not like those people are just going to disappear. It starts in journalism school. You know, it's, you know, it's the editorial assistant who gets to decide to fire the New York Times editorial page guy for publishing a Tom Cotton op-ed. I don't I just don't.

I don't see that changing overnight. And, but, you know, maybe in the long run it can. You know, we spend a lot of money on politics. I wish some of these billionaires spent more money on, you know, journalistic efforts on the right. You know,

You want to be real? George Sparrow spends a lot. Well, he does, yeah. A lot. He sure does. Yeah, he does. Thank you so much, David. I appreciate it. The name of the book is The Rise of Blue Anon. David is the senior editor of The Federalist.

Tried to keep him at the blaze forever. I would have liked, I would have locked him in one of those, you know, cages down at the border if we could. David Arsani, a book well worth the time, The Rise of Blue Anon. Back in just a second. So there are some people out there who just don't believe, you know, in half measures, like at all. Everything they do, 100%. You got to do it 100%. They do it happily. Do it in timely fashion. They do it right the first time.

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I don't know what I'm doing on New Year's Eve yet. It's my wife. It's our 25th wedding anniversary.

This year. 25 years, Stu. That's incredible. That's incredible. That woman has put up with me for this long. I was there. I tried to talk her out of it that day. I know. She's dead inside now. She just makes the motions like whatever. But 25 years. And I love her more today than I ever have. That's incredible. Is there a big plan? We talked about it yesterday. And I'm not sure. I'm not sure what we're going to do. It's a big deal.

It's her taking a jet to another country and never seeing you again? It's probably it. Yeah, it's probably it. She's been draining the bank accounts, I'm sure, for years. Oh, no, wait. That's me. Yeah. No expending habits. That's definitely you. By the way, a lot of people were saying, hey, the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight not going to be worth paying for? It's going to be a waste of money? It's actually just part of your Netflix subscription if you have one.

It's just part of it. So it's not a big pay-per-view thing. I would love... Because it's being fought here in Dallas. Yeah. I would love to go. I looked at tickets. They're pretty expensive. Oh, really? Yeah. I mean, I didn't see the value there. Because I'm not sure it's going to be good. I feel like there's a...

Probably a 50% chance it's just they're just hugging each other and it's really boring. That's really possible. See, you know, the thing about getting into a ring with Mike Tyson, I know he's 60, but getting into a ring with Mike Tyson, getting hit by him if he just happens to have one left in him could kill you. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And... But I mean...

You watch amazing athletes as they get into their mid to late 30s, and you see the difference, and they fade so quickly. Why is Jake Paul interested in beating up on an old man? Isn't this kind of like the Olympics where, oh, no, I'm definitely a woman. There's nothing exciting about that. No. Oh, well, I'm definitely not there. That was horrible. I think the answer to this is,

Lots and lots of money. I mean, like, you know, he's a he's an influencer, right? Like he he's kind of a boxer, but also he likes attention and money and knows how to get it. Like he's really good at it. We're political influencers. Do you I mean, would it be worth it to go? We're going to debate Walter Mondale. I'm not sure a guy who actually debated Elliot Spitzer.

I'm not sure, Glenn. I had to do that. You did that? It was a giant stunt? I know. I had to do that. I was contractually obligated. You were? That's true. Yes. But I mean, it was something that kind of generated a lot of excitement. Some excitement. I liked it. I just have to tell you, I was wearing a 1791 t-shirt. 1791, kind of an important year for America. Yeah, I've heard of it. And Spitzer said, right before we went on, he said...

What's significant about the year 1791? And I went, oh, dear God, you're serious. But I mean, there's... We see that stuff happen a lot. I think...

What I'm fascinated about is I have absolutely no idea where this goes. Like, you could totally convince me Tyson, a much better boxer, technically, as far as skill goes, even he's going to remember what he had back in the day, would just destroy a 26-year-old influencer who kind of boxes.

On the other hand, you could totally convince me a 26-year-old at the peak of his physical abilities is going to absolutely... He might literally murder a 60-year-old trying to fight him. But there is the same, I think, chance that Tyson murder...

I mean, it could be murder either way. I don't know. Join us in the ring for murder night. And then I also think there could be this chance they go in there and kind of just bump into each other for 12 minutes and it's over. And it's like, God, that was terrible. Like, I think that's totally a possible outcome, too. I have no idea where this goes, which kind of makes it like one of the most interesting sporting events I've seen in a long time. Actually, I'm getting a little tired of that because everything is like that.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're just talking, before we get into aliens and what happened on Capitol Hill, just to let you know, nobody shed their skin and showed that they were lizard people, but pretty close. We'll tell you about that here in just a sec. We were just talking about Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. Sorry, I'm so fascinated by this. No, I am too. But Stu, I think, found the answer of why

Jake Paul would would fight Mike Tyson yeah uh 40 million dollars 40 is there anyone that could beat on me for 12 minutes for 40 million dollars I try I can sort of go fund me I would like that I do it uh yeah uh no 40 million dollars and he's actually getting I think double the amount of Jake of Mike Tyson which is incredible that Tyson is less of a draw than Jake Paul the thing about

Mike Tyson is just how frightening that guy was. I mean, one swing...

really in his old power, it could kill you. Yeah. No, I know. And I think it's incredible. It shows God's sense of humor. He's like, I'm going to make this dude really, really powerful. But then I make it tack like this. And I just want to make it talk like this. Wouldn't that be funny? Let's make him. God does that a lot. He did that with David Beckham, one of the best, you know, soccer players of all time. It's like, let's have him be an awesome soccer player, but sound like Kermit the Frog. Oh,

Hang on, we have clips here of Mike Tyson. Well, in your return to the ring for this fight, you are setting a monumental opportunity for kids my age to see the legend Mike Tyson in the ring for the first time. So after such a successful career, what type of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done? Well, I don't know. I don't believe in the word legacy. I think that's another word for ego.

Legacy doesn't mean nothing. That's just some word everybody grabbed onto. Someone said that word and everyone grabbed onto the word, so now it's used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me. I'm just passing through. I'm going to die and it's going to be over. Who cares about legacy after that? What a big ego. I'm going to die. I want people to think that I'm this. I'm great. No, we're nothing. We're just dead. We're dust. We're absolutely nothing. Our legacy is nothing.

So I actually happen to agree with him. I do too. Yeah. I mean, in some ways, not that, you know, we're nothing. Cause I have obviously faith reasons to believe something different. But nobody's going to remember any of us. Yeah. I mean, I said this in an interview recently and they were like, no, no, no. And I'm like, I'm not trying to be humble. I'm telling you.

Five years after my death, no one will remember. No one. Yeah, it's true. It's why you should always remember when you're having a bad day and getting attacked online how little it means. It just means nothing. It means absolutely nothing. Hey, one more thing about this, too. I find it to be fascinating. This is a 14-year-old girl set up in an interview with Mike Tyson. With every other person I think I've ever known in my entire life that has this story, his legacy would be rapist. Right.

Right. Okay? When you are convicted of rape, generally your legacy is rapist, and he's got 14-year-old girls being probably, hey, go talk to that rapist over there. So weird. I just want to ask you, Mr. Polanski, what's your...

What do you think your legacy is going to be? Probably raping kids like you. Probably. All right. So Jason is here. I asked him yesterday, I said, would somebody just watch the testimony on Capitol Hill? Are they announcing the aliens have arrived yet? What is this? Give me just the high level stuff that was important.

I wrote three pages of notes where I was just like, I cannot believe this is in a congressional hearing. I just cannot believe this is in a congressional hearing. Because it was such a joke or because...

They were verifying things. Well, verifying is a very... Yeah, okay, see, this is the same. Well, so they have very credible whistleblowers and people that you've spoken to. People like Lou Elsonato, he was also there. But he's the same guy. It's the same testimony.

I've heard it. So what's new, pussycat? Whoa. I demand new knowledge about aliens. I'm bored with your alien stuff. I don't know if new is the correct word, but more of like, it seems like more verification and more detail. Like what?

So for one, everything I'm about to tell you is and everything they said, there was another kind of like drop from one of these whistleblowers that said, you know, we always wonder what doesn't the president, every president should know about this, right? He doesn't. So apparently that's by design. And apparently, according to one document that was released a couple of days ago, President Obama found out about these disclosures like through Lou Elson on the New York Times after the fact that

And was like, wait, what did you guys withhold from me? And he actually went to some of these people and said, can I get read in on all the stuff you intentionally let me out on? They did not do it. So Obama apparently did not get this briefing. So I really have a problem with this. The president is our elected commander in chief. And this goes to the dark web, honestly. Not dark web, the deep state. That

An elected official should be able to say to all those unelected, no, excuse me, you're going to read me in on this. And there's lots of things that the president doesn't know. That's wrong. Yeah, and not only just the elected officials and the executive, but Congress. They're the oversight. So apparently from what they described is this has been designed intentionally to go around that.

to keep those people in the dark. And by the way, they did say that Trump was given this briefing and that he was so, quote, disturbed by what they said that he intentionally said, let's not move on. Man, I wish that guy drank because I would be at Mar-a-Lago tonight just pumping him up with...

Joy juice going, hey, so what'd you learn about the aliens? So they talked about what's called the legacy program and how this is, they go into how they've gotten around oversight. And they talk about they're primarily people within the executive branch and

And they have created a classification system, a special access program, how they classify top secret information that immediately detects every time our military or whoever, CIA, anyone has got footage or anything at all on a UFO. It detects it, pulls it out of the regular system, and then disseminates it amongst themselves so that nobody else sees it.

And it's very interesting because that's how they said this has been going on for decades. So this is how they get around. None of this stuff getting out. So there's kind of a good old boy group that's got all this information. I don't know. This is the problem. This is deep state. Yeah. And they have to answer to elected officials. There has to be. Yeah, we are a country.

and for the people. So the people we elect have oversight and they should be read in. I mean, I understand top secret, et cetera, et cetera, but elected officials should be read into everything. I completely agree. And the detail that they go into, I mean, I've never heard this be disclosed before. Like they talk about specific, uh, intelligence systems that are being used to monitor all this stuff. And,

And they go into multiple different encounters where they're like, oh, it was observed with this infrared FLIR system here or this signals intelligence here. And this is these videos exist within that select group. And they, yeah, like I said, they go very into very specific detail on what actually happened during those encounters. Now, they said that now, now that there's been a few disclosures, Lou Elsonado and some others, they've created a new program called

And it's called the Immaculate Constellation Program. It's a special access program that's taking all this information. But they have a very specific concern or worry. Okay, hang on just a second. Why would you call it, obviously, after the Immaculate Conception, why would you call it the Immaculate Constellation?

What is the, have you thought of this? Not much. Why that will unlock a lot. If you can figure out why they named it that, because that's the immaculate conception. This is the immaculate constellation. I can't tie that together just off the top of my head.

Somebody tweet it to me if you can think of why they would call it that. Because you'll understand their motives if we can understand that name. Well, there's clearly a lot going on that we do not know about and that they know about. Michael Schellenberger was at

this hearing. Which was shocking to me. That added a lot of credibility. Oh, big time. Yeah. You had all the other whistleblowers and people that have come out, Pentagon officials, all that. And they were asked very bluntly, like, what is this? So what is the Immaculate Constellation Program? So it's that special access program that's looking at all these cases. But they are very, very, and they made this very clear that they're worried about something very, very specific.

And this also makes me think... What does that mean? This also makes me think they have kind of a, I don't know, some humor going on here. Because they're looking at something called alien reproductive vehicles. And they constantly talk about RVs. And to me, I immediately thought of like Bill Pullman and his RV, you know, and Spaceballs. Like, I don't know why you would call it that. Right. But reproductive vehicles are...

Vehicles of alien origin that other countries, apparently including us, have retrofitted and recreated off of both seeing some of these alien craft and retrieving and recovering this craft. And they go into detail, Glenn, and they release this in the hearing of very specific cases where they said, we saw an alien reproductive vehicle that

by, and then again, redacted country. But like China or something. Probably who it is. And they said, this is the specific craft that they When they're stealing the technology from aliens that don't exist, they are good. They got that spy thing down. This was the biggest kind of crazy, holy crap moment when they started talking about that. Because the detail includes, they're like, oh yeah, we were in these waters. Their military ships were all

out seeing if they could detect this thing. They clearly knew it was there. They did their exercise and then the alien reproductive vehicle craft went off in a certain direction and disappeared.

So what they're describing here with this immaculate constellation is a global arms race to identify alien craft and then either retrieve it, which they also mentioned multiple other countries have tried to go after them and intercept them, and then retrieve them and then create technology based off of that. That's insane. They're saying it's happening right now.

What are you doing? Saying earlier this hour or last hour that, you know, I don't know if that's going to happen. That's kind of far out there. It's not, as I said last hour. No, nothing is anymore. Every day there's a new crazier thing than the previous day.

Every day you wake up is the craziest day you've ever lived. We are on the verge of massive change. I think people are starting to understand this. With quantum computing, AI, just those things alone are going to change. You will not recognize anything, anything by 2030, 35. Our lives are going to be completely different by that time. Yeah.

I mean, money, how does that even work with quantum computing? I don't even know. Like, how is there a single secret? How do you have money in banks? No passwords. There's nothing. No. There's nothing. All right. Thank you, Jason.

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Let's just say it. Since you're the producer. I was just saying. I always speak things into existence. So coming out December 18th is this season. Get ready. If everybody does what they say they were going to do. No, no, no. Listen, we added extra time to what everybody said it would take. It could come out earlier than that, but we're counting on Black Friday, the new Christmas album. You're just going to love it. Yeah.

Yeah, it's been kind of a weird show today. If I would have said to you a year ago, you know who's going to be the head of HHS? RFK Jr. No, you're right. I would have said no way. Right. And you might have said maybe if Kamala wins. Yeah. But if I say Trump wins and he makes RFK Jr. head of HHS, you're a lunatic.

It's crazy. Okay. Would have been crazy. Yeah. I mean, we talk about conspiracy theories. They're not, you make stuff up and it's not as weird as the stuff that's actually happening in today's world. It's very true. Very true. And I think there's, you know, it's going to be an interesting ride because of that. It will be an interesting ride because of that. You know what we're going to do? We always do predictions for the coming year. Oh, yeah. Let's do them on the air.

and get people to brainstorm with us on what sounds insane, but slightly positive. Right, right. You know, probable. Yeah.

slightly even possible okay yeah like they do this in sports sports talk when you get into a season they'll do like a segment called like bold takes yeah and it's like you had to kind of something that could you're not necessarily saying it's definitely gonna happen but like i think it's a little more likely than people believe yeah but it's but if you say that it's gonna be nuts because the stuff that we all think is coming is pretty nuts

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, the things that we all talk about every day would be like, oh, you know what? We could be on the edge of civil war. Yeah, I know. I feel that too. That's nuts. You know, Glenn, it's going to be really interesting to see how all this plays out. Yeah.

It is. It's going to be fun to see how the American people solve this, isn't it? It's going to be one for the history books, I'll tell you that. All right. Have a safe, safe weekend. God bless. May God save the Republican. Thanks for doing it a couple of Tuesdays ago. The Glenn Beck Program.