In this episode of The Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to leadership consultant, author and AI expert Nick Chatrath. In his work, Nick’s focus is helping others be all they can be, and currently that includes helping clients bridge the gap between what it means to be human in a new world of Artificial Intelligence (AI), and in creating environments where others can do their best thinking. In February 2023, Nick’s book ‘The Threshold, Leading In The Age of AI’ was published, within which Nick presents a framework for how leaders can adapt to the new age of AI by leaning in the qualities and skills that make us uniquely human.

The Threshold: Leading in the Age of AI (Diversion Books, 2023)

0’00 Introduction

4'58 Tell us about yourself and your career and what led you to write your book?

7’17 In your view what are the qualities that make us uniquely human and give us the advantage?

9’26 Your book is about our relationship with AI and you talk about needing to manage both a psychological independence from AI while simultaneously maintaining a close relationship with it. Can you delve into that for us?

12’30 How do you prime the people you work with to try and get into this more divergent form of thinking?

16’11 Tell us more about the competitive advantage for an organisation that embraces the more human piece versus the companies that are prioritising the technology

19’26 You point out that old models of leadership are obsolete. In your view, which models of leadership should be done away with and what should they be replaced with?

21'56 What do you think in terms of how we need to evolve to co-exist with AI as a pervasive environment?

26’25 How do we not fall into the trap of embracing almost magical properties onto AI and ensuring that it’s not the GPS system that takes us over the cliff?

30’15 How do we start to raise leadership consciousness as things move forwards so rapidly?

35’15 What’s next for you? Where are you taking this?

36’27 What’s the hope for your daughters? What kind of world do you hope they will step into in terms of their relationship with technology?

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