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Will We Know the Results on Election Night?

2024/9/24
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Abraham Iyer, a 23-year-old YouTuber, analyzes Charlie Kirk's viral video of a campus confrontation. Iyer focuses on the left's denial of objective reality and their adherence to identity politics, arguing this leads to a disconnect from logic and reason.
  • Iyer views Marxism as a threat to civilization.
  • He believes the left prioritizes identity over ideas.
  • The viral video shows a disconnect between the left's ideology and reality.

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Men are free to claim to be women and swim in swimming pools. You're not free to claim trophies in a women's sports competition. See, that distinction is elementary in terms of a logical dichotomy. To her, it's advanced calculus. But this level of dialogue that we've reached, guys, is not the priority of the left. They're not practiced in being here because they never prioritize it.

What they prioritize instead is the demonization of any person that is not a part of their group so that they can say this is a bad person. Therefore, I don't have to listen or contend with anything they have to say. This is how you see low IQ degenerate women who can't articulate a single argument thinking narcissistically and frankly psychopathically that they are somehow better than others. So such that they can smile and smirk while being surrounded by a bunch of people who are scorning her for being low IQ and not being able to articulate an argument.

Because she's been indoctrinated in college to only see the world in terms of power disparities, not decipher it in terms of logic, reason, rationality, to understand the objective nature of any system or reality. Instead, she's been fed a one-dimensional analysis of oppressor, oppressee, where ideas have so little weight in comparison to adherence to the cult that they're essentially meaningless. And being asked to articulate them is the same as being asked to engage in theater, almost perversely enough, in an act of

bad faith because in the left who asks you to engage in ideas you're a good person just as a result of saying the right lines identifying with the correct identity and acknowledging other people's identity and attributing to them the correct amount of counterfeit virtue as a result of their hypothetical victimhood

That impressive video is a young man by the name of Abraham Iyer, and he joins us right now. Abraham, I hope I got your last name correct. Abraham joins us. Abraham, thank you for joining us. Our team sent that video to me over the weekend. I was very impressed. I said, get on the show. I'll be very honest, Abraham, I don't know very much about you, and we're meeting for the first time. Why don't you introduce yourself to the audience and the work that you do? Thank you, Charlie. Thank you for having me on. I'm glad you got to see that video. I was actually hoping that one day you would get to see my analysis because I'm

You know, that video that I saw of you talking with that girl just completely surprised me. But anyway, my name is Abraham Iyer. I'm 23 years old. Since the age of 17, I've been obsessed with understanding the architecture of the left-wing ideology.

in particular Marxism, because I view it as the greatest existential threat to civilization and humanity. I could talk for two hours about the nature of Marxism, but one of the most fundamental aspects, I think, is its feminine denial of objective reality and any type of objective system or framework that makes sense of the world, like reason, rationality, logic.

who definitely got to see that represented in that video, almost to such an extent that I thought, you know, is this a script? Because this girl, you know, started off with emotional attacks and then ended up like sexually exposing herself to you, which was just so bizarre to see. You know, Freud would have a field day, that's for sure. But yeah, I'm 23 years old. You can find my YouTube channel. I upload daily. So that's kind of what I've been doing for the last year and a half. After COVID, I decided I had to speak out

because things were getting insane. The left was going off the rails. Well, you have a great talent, and you're welcome here. So let's dive into it. Thank you. I could play more of this video, but let me just summarize this for the audience in the sake of time.

So it was not staged. And forgive me for my voice. I'm doing my best to try to fight through this. I lost my voice. It's totally fine. I lost my voice. I completely understand. On campus. So I'm screaming at all these people. Outdoor talking, Blake, is the easiest way to lose your voice, by the way. Yeah. And to be clear, not really screaming at people. Not screaming. Just have it amplified. Yeah, exactly. So, Abraham, this was not staged. I was there next to Vivek Ramaswamy.

This young lady comes up and she is guns a blazing and she is very aggressive. She's also pathological. I don't say that lightly because she said, I don't know who you are. And then 20 seconds later, she recites all this information about me. She knows my age. She knows my YouTube information. So it's like, I don't even know who you are. Okay, whatever. But what about this video? And we'll play the clips throughout our conversation. Abraham was demonstrative about a more macro problem we're seeing in the country because I don't want to pick on this young lady.

I'm sure she has her own struggles, and I'll pray for her. But it is important on the macro. What did this demonstrate in the macro, Abraham, in your analysis? Well...

I think that the left doesn't believe in truth as a concept. So when you saw her not caring about reason, logic or ideas on any level, that wasn't just that wasn't an accident. And I don't I don't see that lightly. I think it is actually a technically true statement that the left doesn't care about the concept of truth, because when you look at postmodern neo-Marxism,

What's clear is that they demonize any system of making sense of the world as inherently oppressive, toxic, patriarchal, corrupt, predatory. And as a result of this, there is no way to

make true statements that are allowed. And so only adherence to the political identity, which is one of identitarianism, is acceptable to these people. And so as soon as it became clear to her that you violated that stipulation to her ideology, ideas were a secondary order of priority. There was no attention to detail because

attention to detail is making a statement in and of itself, which is that we could make progress by paying attention to detail. They don't actually believe that there is something at the end of that process. This is also the reason they don't believe in free speech, by the way, because to believe in free speech means you have to accept that two people can collaborate to create a better outcome. I don't actually believe they

believe in the concept of a better outcome because there's nothing greater than their ideology. And their ideology doesn't, again, it rejects any objective system like logic as inherently oppressive. And so you were, as far as she was concerned, a...

corrupt predator embodying the patriarchy, possibly white supremacy, any slander where you can think of to discredit you so that she doesn't have to contend with what you have to say. And this is, of course, the nature of the left-wing ideology and why, frankly, the left seems so disconnected from reality. I mean,

you're on X, you see it every day, I'm on X, I see this constantly. It's gotten to the point where Elon Musk is tweeting about this because there is no end to the insanity. And people ask, why is that the case? Why are they so self-evidently insane and disconnected from reality? And I liken it often to zombies because I live in California. I know a lot of liberals. I know a lot of rich liberals. And there's sort of two groups of people. One group of people is separated from reality fundamentally because of their allegiance to this ideology. And the other

is able to think rationally and accept the individuality of a person, you know, doesn't disparage meritocracy or logic, you know, the list goes on. But this is definitely, her behavior was endemic to the leftist ideology most technically. Let's play cut 28 here, just so our audience can get a little bit more of a flavor. Just so everyone understands, this video has been seen

based on Elon Musk sharing and others. This video has been seen on the low end 140 million times. Congratulations for Elon Musk spending that, by the way, I want to say. Thank you. That's very sweet. Elon's great. Let's play Cut 28. Do you feel proud of yourself for debating college kids who are unprepared to speak in front of an audience like yourself?

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You're 30 years old. We can agree you're 30 years old, right? Do you think that's a little bit silly? Are you a voter? I am a voter. Oh, so I vote and you vote. So I'm talking to voters of this country that will determine the future of Western civilization. That's what I'm doing here today. Yeah? Wait, hold on. How is it any different than a professor talking to you? Than a professor talking to you? Who are you?

Well, enough, important enough for you to come up to a microphone. Actually, when I first saw this ad, I thought it was like a, like an improv comedy thing. It looked so ridiculous that I didn't even think it was real. Um... Well, no, you could see, look how popular Trump is on your campus. How does that make you feel? That's not comedy. That is a five alarm fire for Kamala Harris because she's probably going to lose Pennsylvania. No, I just want to be clear. Is there something wrong with talking to voters?

No, there's nothing wrong with talking about this. Well, that's what we're doing here today. It's an open mic. I think that you push a dangerous agenda. What does that video tell you? Well, it seems like theater to me because...

her, you could think of it as emotional criticism or emotionally lashing out. When she was doing that to you, it almost seemed as though she didn't believe her own words. And again, the reason for that is because there's no truth outside the left-wing ideology as far as they're concerned. They don't have to, they don't have to make sense. They don't have that standard, the way you and I care about being logical or representing objective reality. Objective reality is their enemy. They demonize it because it is oppressive. And

She's, you know, it's disingenuine, but you could tell that she knew as she was saying the words that it was completely disingenuine. You know, it's not authentic. And so I think that this is a almost Freudian level embodiment of the left wing psychopathology as far as I'm concerned. And that was a perfect clip that you just played to demonstrate that.

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that young women seem to receive it openly. And we see this with the gender divide or the sex divide. Young men are very much more to the right, young ladies very far to the left. What explains that? What I think explains that, you know, I'm reminded of something Jordan Peterson said in 2017 with Kathy Newman, where he said, in order to think you have to risk being offensive, you know, in high school, coming out of high school, even in college, you have to be able to go to war in a sense to defend ideas that make sense. It's a lot easier to just

participate in an ideology that, for lack of a better term, just calls you a good person as a result of being a part of that ideology. So if you were to join, let's say, a group of people that their fundamental landscape of thinking is morally relativistic, but all you have to do is sacrifice your individual identity, they call you a good person. And once you engage in that type of thinking,

You can call yourself a hero. You can pretend as though you're righteous without having any actual merit. This is the reason why I think you saw her act so psychopathically in front of you. And it functionally is psychopathy, ideologically induced psychopathy, where you see her believing that she is the righteous one, that she is the good one, that she is the one who has merit and, and, um,

is acting out coherence despite talking to a literal billionaire, Vivek Ramaswamy, and yourself, who are talking about ideas really on a surface level. You're talking with her on a level that is elementary, let's just say, because that's the most she can handle, and yet she still believes she's better than you. This is due to the fact that

their ideology says you are above reality, you are above having to make sense. And that's a very compelling young message to feminine personalities. So you see this not only with women, but also with men as well that have effeminate personalities that they would rather pretend to be heroes than do the work to be actually meritorious or virtuous and

And this is something that I saw personally even in my high school growing up. So I actually went to the same high school that Elon Musk's son, Xavier, the school that turned his son trans went to. And this is something that was rampant.

When I first discovered Jordan Peterson, which is really what set me on the path that resulted in me not being a leftist, I was in 11th grade. I remember where I was sitting. But in that same classroom, we had a teacher that told us that paper was racist because it was white. We were deconstructing book analysis. But instead of engaging in ideas, that's the level that we were engaging on because, again,

to engage in logic, reason, rationality is to risk being offensive. And to these people, being offensive means you have to defend ideas. Once you defend ideas, then it's clear that there's a truth. And then once there's an objective truth that is external to the ideology, that's unacceptable. So...

This is a very compelling young message for effeminate personalities, especially low verbal IQ personalities. A bit of research that Peterson referenced in 2021 that really stuck with me was proclivity to abide in left-wing authoritarianism is positively correlated, very strongly positively correlated, in fact, with a feminine personality distribution and low verbal IQ. And so this is the reason why you see

I'll just be honest, you know, so many podcasts and characters like, and they're not just characters, I don't mean that in a disparaging way, but people like Andrew Tate, et cetera, that are speaking out against this effeminate ideology

programming, or you could call it a psyop of civilization, because once you reject the necessity to risk being offensive, then you can basically program people with whatever message you want, and at the same time, of course, destroy the nuclear family and any resistance to this heinous groupthink. So, Abraham, this is the difficulty, you're pinpointing it, and the video is very clear. How do you win them over if they don't believe in dialogue?

So the answer to that, I think, is that you have to enforce consequences because since we're essentially looking at

induced psychopathology. These people are functionally psychopathic since they believe that they are above reality. That is the definition of a psychopath. If you think about it, you know, psychopath says that I don't have to care about other people because I am better than them. These people don't think they have to care about reality because they think their ideology supersedes reality. And so the only way to cure this, the only way to get over it, I think is to enforce consequences given that, you know, approximately 2% of a population is psychopathic at any given time. They don't care about

hurting other people, they only care about what will happen to them. They only calculate in their head, what can I get away with? And this is the reason why we have laws, is so that there are consequences. I think that the consequences that we must enforce on these people

First is electing Donald Trump because this is the only way we can combat these heinous, freak shows and lunatics is to get him in office because he will enforce consequences. But beyond that, we just have to demonstrate to these people we are not afraid. And I think that this is why your conversation is so important. We are winning back the expectation that we are not somehow in the wrong for calling out girls as broken as the one you spoke to as she's clearly not virtuous.

Yeah. So, Abraham, I want to have you back and we can do an entire hour and you kind of dissect all of our campus stuff. We'll send you some videos. You guys. Thank you. We'll have you back. Thank you. Thank you so much, Charlie. Thank you for having me.

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Joining us now is Tom Bevin from RealClearPolitics. Tom, welcome to the program. Tom, thank you for bearing with me. I'm doing the NPR host thing today because my voice is a little... I noticed that, Charlie. Yeah, it's a little worn down, but here we are. So, Tom, we all remember the early Arizona call back in 2020 when Fox News said, breaking news, Donald Trump has lost Arizona, Joe Biden has.

What happened there? People in this audience still have some form of PTSD. Let's go back four years ago. What do we know about that night?

Well, I mean, Fox, I think, you know, jumped the gun. They ended up being right in the end, but the call itself seemed sort of premature, right? And the decision desk that was responsible for making that call, I think, ended up, as I said, they were defending it. But there was about 74% of the vote in and Biden had, and this was at about 1120 at night and on the East Coast.

Um, and there was, um, Biden was leading by, I think seven points or so, but there was still a decent amount of vote left to be counted. And the, uh, you know, the polls in Arizona, I went back and looked at our real clear politics average. It was under 1%. So all of the polling suggested that Arizona was going to be a very, very tight race. And so when that call came out, obviously people, it raised a bunch of eyebrows among folks as to, you know, and, and

Fox was the first to call Arizona. That was the other thing. I mean, the AP didn't call it until a few hours later. Some of the other networks didn't call it until the following day. So it was definitely one of those calls that raised a few eyebrows. And look, Brett Baer got hung up to dry here. We know that now because of disclosed text messages. And I want to play the tape here to go back into it. Brett Baer was told by the people, hey, this race is called. And Brett Baer's instincts were right, saying, guys, this is going to come down to like 10,000 votes.

And in fact, it did. It very well could have tilted either way. This was a lucky guess by Fox. And Brett Baer was really kind of put in front of the firing line here. Let's play cut 12. I were the Trump campaign. I would feel great about Ohio. We're not there yet. There's just too much vote out and there's too much speculation.

potentially heavily democratic mail vote that may flop in at the end to get too froggy right now with Ohio. We're going to be careful, cautious and earnest. All right, but you weren't careful, cautious and earnest in Arizona. We were too. Why? Because there's all this day of vote, right? We said that each state

starts off with the early vote, the mail-in vote, the absentee, the early vote, and that's a skew toward the Democrats, almost six out of ten. But then we've seen in state after state that the Trump vote comes in on the day of vote that seems to be populating more and more. So why can you say it definitively in Arizona? Well, we were careful, cautious, and earnest.

Yeah, right. Brett's instincts were right. It was a complete guesswork. And remember, he would not call Ohio, which ended up being an eight to nine point victory for Donald Trump. But they would call Arizona, which came down to 10,000 votes. And Ohio started counting earlier because, you know, it's East Coast. Yeah, East Coast, not on the West Coast.

And yeah, as you said, won it by eight points by 500,000 votes. Arizona ended up coming down to 10,000. And you're right. It's unfortunate what happened to Brett Baer. I knew him when I was at Fox. I was very close to his office. He's a great man. He's a great guy and very fair. And it really speaks to how the 2020 election was like it was kind of a...

spiritual experience for a lot of people. It was a very emotional, very powerful moment for them. And I think what really hurt people was the early results in 2020 were so good for Trump and so surprising. And so there was this rising, rising hope. And then Fox comes in with this premature call in Arizona. And it was like the record scratch moment. And it's like a lot of people were like, oh, Fox is doing part

part of the steal and like this was the signal that they were going to do all this bad stuff. I personally don't think that's how it unfolded. I think it really was a guy at Fox made a wild, it was Chris Stierwald, Bill Salmon and Chris. They're all gone. Brett Baer was just following orders. He's the guy, he's the guy at the desk. He's their evening news anchor. And he,

basically he announces the calls that the desk makes. He's busy on TV. He's not making the calls himself. He can't do math. He's talking to the audience. You can see in that clip, he's pushing back and was pretty upset that he was the guy on screen holding the bag. And so Tom, do you have a thought there? Yeah. I mean, listen, so, uh,

That clip is great. It's a great example of because at that point, there was 94 percent of the vote in in Ohio and Trump was leading by eight points. And Chris Stierwald is saying, hey, we don't want to get too out of our skis here. We don't want to get froggy. You know, there's still some votes to come in. And I think Brett rightly pushed back and said, well, wait a minute. What? So how does that play with Ohio with with the Arizona call that you guys made earlier? And we then we found out subsequently in messages that were released, I think, as part of the Dominion suit that.

That Brett was very concerned right from the beginning and actually pushed the folks at Fox to basically rescind that call. And he was he was denied. But I mean, I think he knew right from the beginning. And I've had conversations with Brett about this as well. And I think he you know, he didn't they don't give the anchors a heads up as to what calls they're making or when they're making, why they're why they're making them.

He just gets that information and is supposed to pass it along to the viewers. It is up to the folks at the decision desk. And as you mentioned, that was Bill Salmon who was running that desk. Steyerwalt was on it as well, and they're no longer with Fox News. Yeah, and I'll just say one final thought. Blake, you made a really apt point is that I was in the White House when that call made, and I was kind of courting a group of people that were very anxious.

I said, guys, these these like Trump has a shot here. And we are seeing all this momentum. And within minutes, I'm from Arizona. They call Arizona. And I I was humiliated. And I was like, no, no, no, no. And I was calling people and people on the ground, Arizona. They're like, there's no way this should be called yet. Like, yes, Biden had a good showing with early voting. And I remember.

talking to somebody that knew the Fox News brain room and the Fox News brain room was like, oh yeah, there's no way Trump will get within like 100,000 votes. It came down to 10,000 votes. And so it could have went either direction. And so remember, Trump ended up winning the late earlies by 60%. And so, so Tom, I want to segue here to 2024 because I wanted to set the table there with that in just a couple of weeks. It's like 45, 44 days.

Do you think we'll have clarity on who the next president is on election night?

No, I don't. Not necessarily because of Arizona. I mean, we just had a poll come out this morning, New York Times, Sienna has Trump up five in Arizona, and he's actually leading in all six of the polls there. And our average is up by about two points. So he's getting a little bit of separation with Kamala Harris in Arizona. But in Wisconsin, for example, Pennsylvania, those are both states that are going to, they're not going to start counting until after

The polls close. And in Pennsylvania's case, I think they're going to, you know, they could be counting for days in Pennsylvania. And that race is also very, very close, less than one percentage point in our real clear politics average. So Pennsylvania looks like it's going to be the tipping point, the key to this election. And so I don't think we're going to know who the president is on election night.

And Blake, what are your thoughts? So I was just wondering, you might know this, Tom, if we have, so it looks like we'll have less early voting than in 2020 overall. Does that improve? Does that mean we get more ballots counted on election night? The ones that are cast day of? Because I know there were issues in 2020 where they were talking like they had to open all of the envelopes. There was a lot of like busy work that had to be done with ballots that weren't counted, early ballots that weren't counted till election night. Do you have any insight on that? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, there's like 43 states have some sort of early counting process, right? Because the ballots have to be they have to be processed before that, you know, verified and all that before they can actually be tallied. And some states allow that to happen, you know, days before and some states and then they allow the counting of those votes to start at a later date.

Um, so, but you're right. There are less early votes, less mail-in votes. Uh, it appears to be this, this time around, obviously because there's, you know, 2020 was, was during COVID and a lot of people availed themselves of that option. And a lot of states have sort of, sort of clawed back some of those, um,

some of the election laws from 2020. So I do think we'll have less votes. But again, in some of these states, we're talking millions and millions of votes. You know, if they start counting after the polls close on election night,

you know, they're going to be counting for days. And again, in the two key states where that's going to happen is Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, both of which are absolutely razor thin right now. Yeah. And Tom, again, even if all of this was done ethically and correctly and legally, can we all agree that these multiple days of counting has the appearance that deteriorates a fair and open process? This is not the way there's got to be a better way. We know there's a better way to do this.

But, Tom, it's as if they're begging for people to lose, to get off balance.

Yeah. And especially because of the disparity with which the votes, right. Democrats avail themselves of mail-in ballots and early vote much more than Republicans. So you do, you get this, this idea of, you know, Republicans typically vote day of and Trump had encouraged he's, he's been a little bit more amenable to telling folks to, to, you know, do mail-in balloting. But for the most part, he was like, you know, show up on election day. So all of Trump's

you know, votes get tallied early and he goes out to a big lead. And then, you know, as they, as they open some of these mail ballots and,

and start telling those. His lead dissipates as we get overnight. We saw this in Wisconsin last time around, Milwaukee at three in the morning or whatever when some of these dumps come in of absentee ballots. And it does. It invites the idea that everything is not on the up and up. And obviously that is not good for the republic. It's not good for the foundation of our democracy and our elections. I agree. And I just want to say, Tom, I'm doing my part. I visit RealClearPolitics.com

55 times a day. So you're getting my CPS. So, okay. Very good. Constantly, constantly refresh, refresh, refresh. It is the premier website and I got to do better, you know, in off election years, I might visit RCP a couple of times, but as soon as you guys have the best horse race coverage, and I know you have other stuff in addition to that, it's not a knock on that other stuff. But once I start to lock in and I want to see where a presidential race is at, I

I'm sure you see it in the web traffic, Tom. I'm sure it just goes to the moon.

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is really the best in the business. And I know this is your Super Bowl season, literally. Tom, in the RealClearPolitics average, number one, talk to us about what it takes to actually be in the blend of polling, because you guys have a very specific methodology. You don't accept every poll that is out there. And then number two, what is your current RCP average show in the battleground states with Kamala Harris and Donald Trump? So, yeah, we definitely take a look at every pollster and

And we don't accept any campaign polls. We don't put any PAC polls into our averages. It has to be publicly accepted.

available polling data. Typically, you know, we like to see folks that are attached to a media outlet or someone who's been, you know, polling a state for a long time. Like every cycle, you'll get people who pop up out of nowhere who are suddenly doing battleground state polling. And we typically don't include those folks for a number of cycles until we know who they are and how they have a track record and we feel comfortable with them.

And so that's sort of how our process works. What's interesting, and I've been saying this, Charlie, you look at

Kamala Harris had a couple of good national polls over the weekend, right? The NBC and CBS News had her up five and four points. She's up 2.2% in our RealClearPolitics national average. That is 16 polls that have been taken over the last three weeks. And yet, with the new data that we got this morning from the New York Times, CNN, some of these battleground states, Trump is up on average by one-tenth of 1%.

So when you go back and think to 2016, Hillary Clinton won the national popular vote by 2.1%. She was leading by 3% in the polls. She won by 2.1%. And she lost the electoral college. This has all the hallmarks to me. It reminds me very much of 2016.

And, you know, Kamala Harris is ahead in – I think Trump's only leading in two of the 16 national polls. But if you go, as I mentioned before, in Arizona, he's got a two-point lead there. He's leading in every poll in Arizona. He's got a two-point lead in Georgia. He's leading in all seven polls that we have in our average in Georgia.

Um, he's got a narrow lead in North Carolina and, uh, Kamala Harris has got narrow leads in, in Nevada and, uh, and, uh, Pennsylvania is less than a point. And then she's up about one point in Wisconsin and 1.7 in Michigan right now. So pretty tight in the battleground States. And, um, but certainly, you know, I think, uh, right now it's about as close as you can possibly be. And again, if you take and translate those into the electoral college, uh,

Kamala Harris is winning the electoral college, I think, 272 to 266 or something like that in our map. But if Pennsylvania flips, you know, that's the that's the key state in this entire thing right now. So, Tom, what does your data show about the U.S. Senate? Who is likely to control it and what states are going to matter?

The Senate is looking good for Republicans. It's a good year for the Republicans map-wise, right? There are 34 seats up, 23 defended by Democrats. West Virginia is basically a pickup for Republicans. I don't think there's anybody in America who thinks that a Democrat's going to win that seat. And so outside of that, the Democrats are doing pretty well in a lot of these incumbents'

And even when Biden was sort of failing back before he dropped out, Democrats were running pretty well ahead of Biden. And so those races have tightened, but Democrats are still ahead in places like Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and the like. The problem is, is Montana.

where Jon Tester has not led in a single poll since Tim Sheehy won the Republican nomination there. And that's a state that's going to go for Trump by, you know, 15, 18, 20 points or more. And so Jon Tester, while he's been able to win in the past, it's going to be a real uphill battle for him. He's going to have to get like one out of every three Trump voters to turn and vote for him on, on the split their ticket and vote for him. And that's just, I don't see that happening either. And so just based on that alone,

Republicans would take the Senate 51-49. Now, could they win some of these other races? Pennsylvania's tightened up quite a bit. You know, you've got, I think the Michigan race is tightened up a little bit. Arizona's tightened up a little bit. The only one that really hasn't tightened is Nevada, where Jackie Rosen has a pretty, still has a pretty commanding lead. And then you've got your sort of outlier in Maryland with Larry Hogan, who's within striking distance, which would be, I mean, that would be,

Obviously, if Hogan wins, I think the public is going to be in the 50s. They say that it's the most Democrat state in the country, Maryland. It could be. You would know, Tom. It's top five most Democrat states in the country. It would be amazing. Tom, thank you so much. We're out of time. RealCurvePolitics.com. Thank you. You got it. Thanks, Charlie. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody email us as always, freedom at CharlieKirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

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