THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 57 — Did Diddy Do It? Vance Debate Strat? New York Times Smell Ban?
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Okay, everybody. Happy Thought Crime Thursday brought to you by NPR. I'm kidding. My voice is still recovering, but it's getting better, right, Blake? The voice is softer, but the crimes are harder. That's right. Andrew and Jack are here with us. I am thankful and blessed that I can talk because, Jack, remember last week in Penn State, it was bad.

So Charlie hits me up and is like, Jack, I need you to come to Penn State because I can't talk. So I'm like, okay, I'll give you a call. So I give him a call. And then Charlie hangs up the phone. I try to call back. Charlie hangs up the phone. He texts back. He goes, Jack, did you read my text? I literally can't talk.

I can text you, but I can't talk. So the entire time we do the event, Charlie's using like, you know, the note, like the notes app on your iPhone. That's how he's using. He's using that to communicate. So I was joking that if he didn't have his voice back in time for thought crime that we should do, like we should get Charlie like an easel and we could do we could do thought crime charades where Charlie is just. So he's trying to communicate with us through.

through like what time does the event start and he's like pointing to his wrist and stuff it was amazing

Jack, you bailed me out last week, and thank you. Jack Posobitz is a good man, and he was there on two instances in two states, and we'll tell you that story at a different time. But thank you, Jack. I am grateful, and that's why we didn't have a show last week, by the way. So we apologize. It's hard to have a show when you can't talk. Well, you know, I was having the thought. One, the easel idea is great. It would be like, you know, Gospel of Luke. You just got the thing. You got to write it, like, spacing on his name. But then the other thing is,

You talk enough publicly. We could probably get an AI model of your voice and you could just type what you want to say and it would sound like Charlie Kirk. AI Charlie's not yet great. Meaning I could tell it's fake.

Well... Because I know my voice really well. The cadence is off. You could tell it's fake. The timbre is quite slightly off. Eventually, it'll probably be there. The AI tuckers are getting really good. Is it really? I heard a really good one where it's a tucker saying why he's interviewing Hannibal, the ancient Carthaginian general as a Roman. And that was a pretty good one. He brought the elephants over the mountains, right? Yes, yes, he did. A little bit. I know a little bit. Yeah. And like half his own... There was even a...

There was even a question about if... So when Bannon went to prison, there was a thing about that where they were saying, well, so could you just do War Room episodes by creating an AI Bannon and then have it plug in...

plug in like 15 articles every day and just come up with bannon's response to that for four hours a day but as everybody knows steve is completely anti-ai and won't even allow like you know ai memes or ai songs to be played on war room so he uh i i asked him at once and he almost threw me out a window so so guys i have to we have to play this clip which is even more funny based on what jack and charlie just told us

because this, so the Penn State images went viral everywhere. And I mean, it was like all over the internet that day. But what's hilarious is that people were making memes of like some of the Trump chants that you got into, Charlie. But if you look closely, and now that you know that Charlie had no voice, you can actually see him chanting along and he's not saying anything. It's just, but like it plays very well on the internet, but play 116.

I was doing this. You can totally tell. And I know you well enough, Charlie, to know that you weren't actually saying anything. Um,

But it's fine. It looked really good and all the students had your back and they were chanting. And Jack was right behind you, by the way, in that clip. But that was from El Donaldo Trumpo, one of the must-follows on Twitter. He posted it up. But Penn State was insane. We should actually play some of these videos from today's event or it would be yesterday's event. Yeah, this one was remarkable. We just helped summarize that. And we had...

thousands of people it was 107 degrees Blake what is going on here it's like we had the beautiful weather I was really liking last week and I was we had one week plans to go to like the last weekend of the Diamondbacks and then it's gonna be like 110 again so with a vengeance it's not good and people were out there we were registering hundred I think the final tallies 350 new registered voters just right then and there many of them might not make it to the election because it's so hot they'll be they'll just be taken out like the Sun will vaporize them that's right and

And the spirit and the enthusiasm was remarkable. And here's the kicker. So I asked the audience, are you guys all registered? Yes. In Arizona? And they say, what? You have to do it twice? And so no, but to their credit, they're like, well, I'm registered in California. I said, no, no, no, register right here. So I spent about 10 minutes reconfiguring people. Like, where are you registered to vote? Oh, Illinois. No, no, no, no. Right here. Where are you registered to vote?

Right here. Like, it's just one after the other. And so some of these were new registrations. A vast majority were out-of-state transfer registrations.

Do we have the video to put up there? By the way, Blake, or anybody can chime in. Typically, the Democrats are the ones that are doing that kind of work. Democrats will do insane stuff. I remember Democrats once had a thing where they set up a system online where if you wanted to vote for Nader, they would do a swap where they're like, okay, this person who's in a safe blue state will vote for Nader on your behalf.

so that you can vote for Gore in the 2000 election. They've done some very complicated engineering to get their votes where they want them to be. Let's play cut 117, please. Right here, you guys registered to vote? Oh yeah!

If you are from another state, register to vote here in Arizona. Who's from California? We're going to hold that against you. Are you registered to vote here? Yes? Arizona? You know? You've got to get registered to vote right here. All right? Who's from Illinois? You're from Illinois? Where are you registered to vote?

Here, good answer. You've got to register to vote in the state of Arizona, okay? Because we do not want a Kamala Harris presidency. Are you right? Here, our team will get it done in, what, five minutes? Less than that. Less? Two minutes. Two minutes? Yeah, that was a little bit of kind of what I was just, I had no idea we had a clip of that kind of dialogue. Andrew, let's play cut 119, and then Andrew, I want your reaction.

Why are you doing that?

Andrew, you've been working with us for eight years, seven years? I think it was 2018. Something like that. Yeah, 2018, so it would be six years ago. Have you seen anything like this in our time together? No. You used to have like two dozen protesters...

with maybe like six local chapter members. And maybe just you'd have to like recruit people to come up to the table to talk to you. And now Charlie, you're walking into campus

Thousands of students greet you. Supporters, they all love you. They love Trump. They're energized. I was talking to a reporter today and they were like, well, you know, what do you think it is about young men? And I was like, well, they've been told that they're toxically masculine toxicity or whatever it is, toxically masculine.

They have been told that they're the problem, that they should sit down and shut up and they need to make room for, you know, people that are maybe not born here and women. And they're getting sick of it. And they're being marginalized, demonized and villainized. And it's like, here you got a guy that has millions of followers across social media platforms telling them to be loud and proud, be bold, stand up for their rights, stand up for their country. And Charlie, I've never seen anything. And there's lots of women, too, by the way, tons and tons of women at these events.

It's not just men. But yeah, there is a special resonance with young men right now because they finally have fighters in the ring. And it's not just Charlie. Jack's one of them. We've got I mean, even even voices like Russell Brand, Joe Rogan. There's this resurgence of masculine energy and you see it across social media. And these kids are responding to it and they're anxious for people that are going to stand up for him. And it's amazing. It's amazing to see and to see them proudly.

donning MAGA caps in the middle of this sea of progressivism at college campuses across the nation. By the way, we've seen this from Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, Northern Texas, Kansas State, Nebraska, UW-Madison, University of Pittsburgh,

Penn State and now today, yesterday at ASU. I mean, it's it this is this is something that we've never seen. And then when you start looking at the social media views across platforms, we're like in the last 60 days, Ryan, give me the number. But it's like something like 450 million views across YouTube and TikTok alone.

So these these this is a phenomena. And I don't say that lightly. I've never said that actually dealing with us. I don't think you would remember me saying that, Charlie. This is a phenomena. People will write books about what is happening right now and they have no idea about it in the mainstream news. They're actively ignoring it. And we're fine with that. Honestly, let's make sure the vote total is.

is correlated with what we're feeling on the ground, right? And ignore it to your own demise. Jack, you were also on campus with me at Penn State. Jack, we played some of that tape. You've been around 2016, 2020. Just kind of in your own words, Jack, what did you see? What did you experience? What did you feel at Penn State University? So what's interesting for me is that

Going back a number of years prior to 2016, a decade prior to 2016 in 2006, I was the executive director of the Pennsylvania College Republicans. So I've done events going back Penn State and, you know, University of Pittsburgh and going out to obviously all over Philadelphia, different parts of the state as well. So very familiar with how campuses operate.

or at least how they used to operate because you used to do an event like that on campus. You did tabling, Kutztown, whatever, that you would go and you'd be inundated. So the goal for tabling used to be like,

how can we troll the campus in order to get press and like maybe get on Drudge Report because that's how it used to be. And then perhaps, you know, Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity or something like that would pick you up. That was the goal back in those days because you were totally outnumbered. So to go to Penn State now here almost 20 years later,

and be welcomed by a sea of conservatives or not even conservatives, but just people who are Trump supporters when you and I went there and we brought 1500 MAGA hats and we only had enough to cover about half the crowd.

I've never seen anything like it. I've never conceived of anything like it. Beyond my wildest dreams, if you had told me that something like this would take place, which, by the way, you did tell me, and I was like, yeah, okay, Charlie, we'll see. I'll come up. I was literally going to talk about that. I was like, Jack, I don't think you know what you're about to see. I was like, Jack. Yeah, because a week prior, you were saying...

hey, come on up and, you know, we'll do Penn State together and it'll be fun. It's like your home state. My dad went there. My brother went there. I'm like the black sheep. Like everyone in my family went to Penn State but me. So, you know, huge family of Nittany Lions, my cousins, my aunts, everybody went to Penn State. It's like Pennsylvania is what you do. And Tony Bobulinski, I got to meet this weekend, by the way, who is also a big Penn State guy. And

you know, you were saying you're going to see something, there's something happening on these campuses. There's some movement that's really taken off. And yes, it is absolutely. Cause people kept asking me, Jack, you on Tik TOK when I was there, you on Tik TOK. It's very much, um, you know, it's, it's, it's sort of like piggybacked or, or bootstrapped through Tik TOK. That's just spread throughout these campuses and people are, you know, I guess reflecting on it now, it's,

It's that the establishment has switched so much. I know it's cliche and we talk about that, but the establishment has switched from...

you know, from being a conservative establishment to, you know, like when I was there and, you know, Bush was president to now where the left is just in charge of everything. They're in charge of all the campuses. They're in charge of every institution. And so that youthful rebelliousness is turned towards the right and it's coded towards the right. So to be edgy is to say things that are pro-Trump. That's

edgy. And then you've also got people and, you know, credit to you, Charlie, you got people there who were coming up to me that said that were saying, I followed Turning Point for 10 years. And you realize that's okay, if you're 1819, that means you started following Turning Point when you were like, eight or nine going on YouTube or something like that. So it's like, you know, Charlie, I remember you saying something to me once a couple years ago, where,

where you were saying there's this huge conservative youth that's, you know, that's coming, that's sort of been inculcated through Turning Point and it's on the way up. And I was like, all right, whatever. Charlie's got, you know, Charlie's got to push donations. Charlie's got work to do. He's got to fund chapters, whatever, you know, sounds nice and no problem.

And then I actually saw it because they're not kids anymore. Now they're in college. Now they're voters. Now they're getting active. And it's like, wait a minute, they're young adults now and it's real and it's actually going to have an effect on the election. It's like, okay, yep, I get it now. All right, Charlie was right. And it's just amazing. It's just amazing.

Well, I want to thank all you guys for believing in the vision, and we'll see if it materializes. I think we need to have some humility about it, but also some honesty. We've never experienced anything like this. This is just overwhelming. It is momentous, and we'll see if God uses it in a way to impact the election. There is other news we want to get to on Thought Crime. Black Epstein.

Black Epstein. Is that? Maybe. Maybe. I'll let you guys debate. I don't know that much about this. I actually don't know that much about it. I'll be honest. I don't know. Everyone does want to talk about it. Let's just get one thing out of the way. Who's Puff Daddy and who's P. Diddy?

That's a good question. And there's Diddy. Hold on. Is that like Kiev and Kiev? Kiev and Kiev? It'd be like Kiev and Kiev if the Ukraine kept coming out and changing the spelling every few years. And then occasionally, maybe they just called it Yeev or whatever without the K sound. That's what it would be like. Because he's gone through a few iterations of that name, I believe. Yeah, it was Pup Daddy, then P. Diddy, and then...

Wasn't there one other one? I think there was just Diddy. I think currently his name is just Diddy. They lost the P somewhere. And then, of course, his real name is Sean Combs. Didn't Snoop Dogg do something like... There's other rappers that keep changing their names. It's like a flex where you can just change your name at will and you make the whole world...

sort of like adopt to your new name. I think that's the whole point. It's like, I'm powerful enough to change my name midstream, mid career, and everybody will just go along with it. Like Kanye and yay. Yes. A lot like that. Although Kanye, at least it was his real name too. And then he's now altered it, but all right, what's going on? What, what is the, I've, I've paid so little attention to this. Jack, do you want to take this? It's also kind of like, well,

Well, I was going to say, it's also kind of like when you're in a presidential election and you're running against a guy named Joe Biden. And then all of a sudden you wake up one day and there's a black slash Asian woman, South Asian woman standing there named Kamala Harris. And she says, I'm the new candidate. And then you have another debate. And in that debate, the moderators don't even mention the fact that the guy from the previous debate isn't there.

Kind of like that. That's Sean Combs to P. Diddy to Puff Daddy to Diddy. Okay, so what is going on here? What is he charged with? Educate me. Anybody. So the thing with Diddy is, first of all, apparently it's just been... You ever notice this always happens with Hollywood where it will just be sort of an open secret that someone's a creep or a criminal or a weirdo? Yeah.

It took Harvey Weinstein. Everyone would make public jokes about him being this huge perv who does casting couch stuff. And no one does anything about it. No one ever calls the police or sues him. There's just suddenly a feeding frenzy and everyone comes out and is a martyr about it. So Diddy kind of had this aspect. All these other rappers would rib Diddy and say, he's a creep. You have these stories that'll host...

these parties and like his house is weird. Like supposedly there's a camera in every room of his house and there's all this strange stuff. And so there's been jokes about this for ages. And what's finally happened is they, they raided his home and investigated it. And then last week he was arrested on charges of,

sex trafficking and a few other things. And the reason this is big, because obviously a lot of hip hop artists are criminals in various degrees, is people speculate he had these big parties and he has cameras in his house and all this strange stuff that he might have done...

The whole alleged Epstein thing of get videotape of people so he has compromising information on them and that now that he's finally going on trial, all of this could come out. Or he might, you know...

commit suicide in prison and you know just that happens sometimes sometimes people commit suicide and the cameras are all turned off and all of the staff of the prison are asleep and you can't prevent that or do anything about it yeah so so Jackie go ahead Jack yeah no I was gonna add that the real thing that a lot of people want to add is

and that I think is generating a lot of talk is, well, I guess two pieces. Number one, there is this sort of casting cast aspect to it because, you know, there's always been this question of like, why is this guy famous, right? He's got, you know, maybe one or two songs from like the 90s where he was actually just

just featured as a singer. You know, Notorious B.I.G., you know, he's in a couple of Biggie songs, but he's only ever, like, had one or two songs that were really legitimately his. He's always just sort of been famous for being associated with other people. And, you know, for decades since, like three decades since, there isn't really any verifiable reason as to why he has the power that he does. And so people have attributed him to be more of this casting couch thing, but...

And that's really what's coming out. And 50 Cent is like just dropping bombs on him because he's been saying stuff like this for years about Diddy. So is Kanye, by the way. And, you know, now it seems to be coming out that they were kind of telling the truth.

But there's also these questions about the Diddy parties and the Diddy party stuff that's coming out is pretty heinous and stuff that I don't even know that we can really talk about here on the program. And the question then that a lot of people are asking is, well, wait a minute, you know, there's a lot of celebrities that were associated with these parties. There's a lot of

And people outside of the hip hop world too. Even people who are like actresses and actors and even including some politicians like the Obama family. Yeah, I was going to say, you should name some names. These are all allegations, like rumors. We're not saying they're true, but like who are some of the names that are getting floated out? Because I think that is why...

Genuinely germane to this story and Chris E. Teigen and John Legend are two big, two big ones are Chris E. Teigen and John Legend. And Chris E. Teigen famously or infamously had that, you know, sort of a hot mic moment. I think it was at a Grammy's years back in like 2015 where she was asked and it was just, again, you know, what, you know, E red carpet kind of thing was like, Oh, you're here with John Legend. What was the most, what's the weirdest place you guys have ever done it in public? And,

and she just all all of a sudden off the cuff says the obama thing like and john legend sort of goes you know very you know wide-eyed very quickly and everyone's sort of looking around he goes where and then he pops in like oh we're not gonna be we're not gonna be getting into that and then they they like one of their publicists put out some statement that oh it was the dnc and it was just like uh and obama wasn't there and it wasn't something so another big one uh that i mentioned um

as a talk earlier this week was oprah winfrey um but oprah winfrey is someone who's heavily associated with these things oprah winfrey was also associated with harvey weinstein and associated with procuring um you know or at least identifying these young actresses for getting on uh jay-z and beyonce uh this is a huge one jay-z is the one i've heard the most that's like a

Really big one. And people, basically people, there's been a lot of allegations as to behavior between Puff Daddy and other, you know, Diddy and other male artists. But again, these are just allegations that are not in the charges. But yeah, Diddy, Beyonce, Meek Mill in Philadelphia, Justin Bieber, who, you know, there's a lot of videos of when he was like 15 and Diddy was the guy who kind of, you

You know, Bieber first came up on YouTube and he was like one of the first big YouTube sensations goes viral early on. Diddy discovers him and then brings him in. And there's just all these old videos coming out of Justin Bieber being very young around Diddy. And, you know, now looked at in a different light. And people are asking a lot of questions as to what went on there. And there's probably a few others that's just off the top of my head. Well, Jack.

Jack, let's pause on the Justin Bieber one because we have this clip from when it looks like Diddy was about 40 years old in this clip and he's with Justin Bieber who's 15 and now in retrospect it's weird. 107. Justin, you ever seen the movie 48 Hours? Right now he's having 48 hours with Diddy, him and his boy.

They're having the times of their lives like, you know, where we hanging out and what we doing. We can't really disclose anything.

But it's definitely a 15-year-old's dream. I have been given custody of him. He signed to Usher. I had legal guardianship of Usher when he did his first album. I did Usher's first album. I don't have legal guardianship of him, but for the next 48 hours, he's with me. And we're going to go full.

Buck fool crazy. I'm going crazy. I'm sure it's just video games. Yeah, supposedly one of Diddy's former drug dealers told the New York Post that his parties were, quote, weird. And they would, like, go all day, but then really ramp up at midnight. And they would call them freak-off sessions.

And people get high on ketamine. Is this like Eyes Wide Shut type stuff? I haven't seen that movie. I'm not degenerate like Charlie. A little more urban vibes, but yeah. I have not seen that film, but it's like... Less Vienna, more South Central. Can you guys bail me out? Eyes Wide Shut is a commonly well-known thing of rich people, right? Do you guys know that? Yeah, they wear masks when they do sex parties, like very Euro style. Yeah, it's Nicole Kidman and...

Stanley Kubrick's last film. Stanley Kubrick's last film. They had to take him out after that one. But watch this now. So you just saw Justin Bieber as a kid. And then if you actually listen to the words, and I'm stealing this from whoever posted this on TikTok, but when you actually listen to the words of what Justin Bieber is saying, cut 109. Lost myself at a dating party.

You guys are educating me here. Keep going. So he...

Signed the papers.

Sign the papers so we'd never have to say sorry. And look, like to me or anyone who's been around Hollywood, you know, this is a form of an initiation ritual. It's sort of like if you want to be in, if you want to be cool, you got to hang out at the party. And if you want to be one of the party people, then you got to, you know, you got to keep going. And if you want the next day,

or if you want the next endorsement or the next project or whatever it is and you're young, well, the idea is you go to the party and whatever Diddy says, Diddy goes, right? So, you know, you've got to outdo whatever the next thing they could think of is. And supposedly that was what these...

these freak offs were, but you know, this, this isn't the same time that, you know, obviously there's, um, been millions of stories, thousands of stories about this type of behavior in, in Hollywood. I think this is just one of the times where something has come out. That's really, really, um,

they've decided to, you know, go after him. And there are some me too aspects to this where, you know, similar to, you know, the, again, like the casting couch stuff, like the, like the Harvey Weinstein style stuff, but it's, it, it definitely goes beyond that. So here's, here's what's interesting as well about it is because Hugh Hefner in LA would throw these big elaborate parties and he's famous for having planted video cameras in

all throughout the Playboy Mansion. So he would invite these really important people, really famous people. They would go, they would do untoward things, and he would basically have blackmail on them. And so nobody ever touched Hugh Hefner. And a lot of people are thinking that this is kind of the same thing

model that P Diddy was following. But what's interesting is that like these rumors had been around for years. And then finally it was his ex-girlfriend, an R&B singer named Cassie. She filed a lawsuit in November, 2023 saying that he raped, plied her with drugs and viciously beat her on many occasions over the course of 10 years. And,

And she was apparently signed to his label in 2005. And she filed the case under the New York Adult Survivors Act. And then they settled the lawsuit like basically two weeks later. And then that was on 17th of November. Then on the 23rd of November, two more women came forward to accuse Sean Combs.

P Diddy of sexual abuse. And, uh, and then on December 6th, another woman alleged that, uh, Combs and two other men raped her in 2003. And then in February, a music producer, Lil Rod Jones came forward and said that he was pressured to procure and engage in sexual acts with sex workers between 2022 and 2023. Uh,

And then all that kind of led towards his houses getting raided in March. And so everybody's kind of been wondering. And then, by the way, CNN leaked that video. Do we have that video, guys, of where he actually beat up Cassie, the girl who filed the original lawsuit? Oh, yeah. So CNN gets this footage of Diddy beating. And it's like it's really graphic. So I just want to say like.

apologies in advance, but this sort of shows you can play it as B roll. There's no audio, but this, so his house gets raided. And then like a few months later, this, this video comes out of P did he just like beating the crap out of his, this Cassie girl who filed the original lawsuit. And so it kind of made everybody go, Oh, this guy is a monster. And then for them to now fully arrest him. And with all the allegations, all the weird stuff,

You know, it's not looking good for Diddy. You know, so the chyron says, did he do it? I would say this is one of the strongest pieces of evidence that

let alone the fact that 50 Cent's been hinting at this for years, let alone the Mike Tyson on the couch scene where he didn't want him to touch him, let alone the Justin Bieber stuff. There's a lot of weird things around. There it is, yeah. So for those of you listening, this is Mike Tyson on a couch, looks like on Arsenio Hall or something from the 90s, grabbing Diddy's hand and making sure it's not touching him. Who is Clive Davis?

I don't know. I don't even know who John Legend is. That's how bad I am on celebrities. He's a producer. Yeah, everyone says Clive Davis. Well, yeah, isn't that the producer? They say he's behind it or something. Is that right? I don't know. Behind it? I don't know. They say that he's the mentor of Diddy or something. Who knows? Jack, you say that he might be Black Epstein. Oh, yeah, Clive Davis. Famous. Famous Hollywood producer and A&R guy. So he's a music executive that...

Yeah, I mean, he's legend. Legendary status. We should show his image because he's kind of like a famous, got a famous look. He's super old now. I think he's 92. He's got to be like

Is he 92? Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. No, but he was around forever. He was around for literally forever. He was, yeah, he's a big, big producer when this was, like when music was still powerful, like before Napster, right? Before LimeWire, before like Spotify now. Before music went streaming and all these guys were just swimming in money, this guy was one of the moguls and helped Puff Daddy become Puff Daddy and then P. Diddy.

Yeah, and a lot of like the 70s, 80s, even like rock, R&B, like a lot of the big names that you would know were associated with him. I think he's at Sony now. Yeah. So, Jack, do you think that – is there any evidence to suggest that Diddy has a blackmail file on people? There is because one of his – where was it? There was actually a story that came out –

talking about one of his, I don't want to get this wrong, but it was an employee basically was saying that Diddy would, it was a former bodyguard,

And, you know, this was one that came out. So basically there's been a lot of people over the years that have come out and said things about Diddy. Even people like in just the last 12 months have come out and said things like this. There was a guy who showed up at like Trump Hotel a couple of years ago and said that he was a Diddy sex slave. And, you know, he like went to jail and nobody listened to him. And then back in...

A few months ago, I'm just pulling it up here, in April, there was a former bodyguard who claimed that Diddy possesses blackmail tapes of prominent figures, including, quote, princes and preachers. And this guy came forward and said, I'm a former bodyguard, and, you know, I'm familiar with this, and the feds got all the computers and all the devices. And, look, this was...

This was a guy who had been with Diddy at his residences in Miami and Los Angeles and all around and had said, oh, yeah, he used to videotape this stuff at the freakout parties. And he would, you know, he would essentially be able to maintain these blackmail photos of people who were guests at the parties or, again, like the victims of.

in order to, you know, doing things to the victims in order to potentially use that for future leverage. Very good. Any closing thoughts on Mr. Diddy?

Well, I was going to say there's this like famous video of him where where he's got a kid on his lap and he starts reading off names. And so that's the big conspiracy theory is this was like a signal to the names that he reads out that he is not going down with the ship alone. Like he's going to take all these people down with him. So this was one of the theories that this is actually his blackmail list. So if your name's on this list, live in fear kind of thing.

So that's also fueling theories that he's going to sing like a songbird because he's in prison now. And, you know, which fuels other speculation that he might just get he just might get offed in federal custody. Well, very good.

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What's the strategy got to be for it? Yeah, I'm curious. What do you guys think first? I want to I have strong opinions here, but I want to listen first. What do you guys think? I mean, my big thought, first of all, unless we get a surprise third debate, you know, second presidential debate or second debate between Trump and Kamala, third overall for president. This is looking like it's going to be the last debate of the cycle. It's going to be this and then a month and we vote.

And that gives it much higher stakes. Usually, you know, usually we have... The standard was three presidential, one vice presidential. It was just sort of slotted in there. The diehards watch it. And, you know, it's quickly forgotten. I can't really remember the most famous moment from any of the last few Veep debates. But this is kind of...

The last pitch that they can make to like a big audience that where everyone's watching. And I think there's also been a lot of attention on the vice presidential nominees relative to some prior years. Like, I don't think Pence got that much attention in 2016. Kamala wasn't getting as much attention as Biden himself in 2020. But this time, you know, both sides have really hit.

the opposing faction and there's a big difference in style between them uh like you have dance it's kind of has the you know came from a town much like springfield ohio goes to yale has kind of this class traitor element to him uh because you know he was allowed into the elite but now he's turned and become critical of elites and then walls we have you know the whole

conservatism in drag sort of thing that he presents where he's this folksy guy from the Midwest who just wants to do what's right, gosh darn it. And we're not going to support all those rich coastal elite Ivy Leaguer folk. And so there's a big contrast between them. And I guess I do wonder how does Vance come out of that

clash successfully because on the one hand Walls is a more experienced politician he probably has more practiced at that folksy appeal on the other hand Vance has definitely been the one who's done the most media in the last two months going against reporters doing tons of interviews so he's certainly like the most practiced of any of the politicians right now and I'd hope that that pays some dividends

What are your thoughts, guys? It seems as if this is going to be a continuation of the Trump Kamala debate. Also, this is the last debate that we're going to have between these two camps. Jack, you first. Yeah. So, I mean, there's a lot here. Now, one thing that I think strategy wise that I would say for J.D. Vance is.

He's introduced himself to the country a number of times because obviously his book came out that just took off when it was first released in 2016, 2017, sold millions of copies, continues to sell millions of copies, by the way. Then the movie came out on Netflix in 2020 that obviously actually did very well. I'm not gonna say obviously because Netflix doesn't always release their numbers and they certainly have kept this under wraps

But I've had people tell me that it's been one of the most, one of the best performing videos on all of Netflix for one of their independently produced productions. And again, you've got Clayton Close, you've got Amy Adams playing his mother. But one of the issues that J.D. Vance has, even with the enormous success of Hillbilly Elegy, is that people don't always necessarily associate Hillbilly

him with the movie because the movie so solely focuses, not solely, but so centrally focuses on the mother and grandmother that people don't realize, oh wait, that's J.D. Vance's family. So if there's anything he needs to do in terms of introducing himself is just remind people

And he's been doing this on the stump over and over, by the way. Remind people, that is me. That is my family. That family that you remember from that movie, that is us. And that was a story that I put up. That's number one. Number two, politically, so that's on the personality side. Politically speaking, which I think will cover up a lot of the stuff that...

that we're talking about in terms of Tim Walls being able to try to come across as folksy. And he does, by the way. He comes across like a high school football coach, even though he was never a league coach. And then when it comes to the actual politics of it, I think, and you've seen him do this in media again and again. You've seen him do this in these, I love these sort of like mini, it's like a little

It's like a mini town hall slash rally slash press conference that J.D. Vance has done. These hybrid events, which are fantastic, where he's taking interview questions from media, but he's also talking to just like regular people. And he's got a crowd there of supporters. So whenever he's, you know, jousting with the mainstream media, they come back on him and, you know, people are laughing and laughing.

taking his side and it just very, it works really, really well. And the clips do well because it looks like, it looks like a fun atmosphere. He keeps it positive, but he always focuses on Kamala Harris. He doesn't talk about Tim Walls. He doesn't get into the personal stuff about Tim Walls. He can, if he has to, I'm sure by the way that Tim Walls is going to be doing the same thing. He's going to make it about Donald Trump.

And so you've got to make sure to maintain that focus on Kamala Harris, that she's the candidate. She's also the incumbent, by the way. And we've seen this huge push from Kamala's camp right now to try to paint Trump in a way as the incumbent, seeing as he's the former president. Or to say that she's not part of the Biden administration. Well, she is, as a matter of fact. And she's the only, as far as we know, the only cogent candidate

you know, non-senile member of the Biden administration. As far as we know, the senior ranking one, fair enough, even though we've got Jill Biden running cabinet meetings. So, you know, you've got to, you've got to keep it on her. But one of the main, one of the main things that he can do to really bait Tim Walz is that Tim Walz has a tendency, even though he is a more polished politician,

He has a big tendency to get hot under the collar. And we've seen this again and again in these local videos from Minnesota. Go back to some of the videos during COVID. Whenever he's challenged on something that he's done or challenged on something that he said, he gets very, very upset about this. And so I think there's I think there's opportunities for J.D. Vance to bait Tim Walls the way that Kamala kept trying to bait Donald Trump in the first debate.

So I have two thoughts here. The first of which is that, and I agree with everything you guys said, J.D. Vance should completely ignore Tim Walz largely. He should say continually make it about Kamala Harris and make it about the agenda. Tim Walz is a buffoon, and people know that, and they'll see that. But Kamala Harris is far less popular than Tim Walz.

And this debate is not going to be about bringing down Tim Walz's favorables. People are voting for the president right now. That's the way it is. I guess anyone who was going to vote against Kamala because they're mad about Walz's guard service probably already knows about it. Correct. So at this point, we tried to set that in. Media didn't take it. This is about Trump and Harris. That's what all people are thinking about. So then, in my opinion, J.D. Vance should do the following. He should keep on saying, well, Governor Walz, your boss—

Your boss, your boss, refer to Kamala Harris as his boss and saying, well, your boss wants to ban fracking. Keep on attacking so that Tim Walz has to defend Kamala Harris the entire time and not have to, you know, defend whatever weird record. Now you could pepper in, you know, tampons and boys bathrooms and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But framing her as his boss is very emasculating. We'll help with men voters because Tim Walz will not know what to do with that. And, uh,

Basically make all the points that we wished would have been said in the first debate right in there. Why isn't your boss fixed it yet? What is your boss doing right now, Tim Walz? Why doesn't she go tell the IRS she won't go after tax on tips right now? Why are you guys not settling the peace deal, doing a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine? What is your boss doing right now to bring down inflation one after the other? Make him have to carry the water for her. That's my thoughts.

I think that's very strong. That's the advice I gave JD. That that's, it's good advice. It's good advice. And I hope he, I hope he takes it. Uh, it is just like the framing your boss.

I love it. That's what I love the most. What I worry is I could imagine him turning that around in a good way where maybe he appropriates it where he's like, my boss is a hero who fought the cartels. And he startlingly turns it into this litany of how great she is. The reason I like it, though, is that no one really likes a girl boss right now.

As far as in swing voters, like hyper... Do you guys know what I'm saying? So kind of, you know, because you could say you're running, mate. Okay? You could say Vice President Harris, but your boss, it makes him look like this little...

thing that is controlled by... A little toady. Exactly. And why is that important? The only attempt that they wanted to this BP debate, what are their marching orders? What does success look like for the Kamala campaign? Because the polling data is not going great for them right now. It's not going great for us, but it's not where they want it to be. It is completely in the margin. They're telling Tim Walz, for the love of God, can we not lose men as badly as we are, right? Talk about how you do camo and you tried nicotine gum once or whatever.

Nothing will turn off men more than the idea that Tim Walls can't stand up to Kamala Harris. They also will want to... They'll try to bring back the weird thing, I think. I don't know if they'll explicitly say weird, but they'll want to when...

I'd say like Vance's worst moments of the campaign have been like, if there's anything like a little bit awkward and some of that was just inevitable, like, okay, cat lady thing to three, four year old interview. And you can't undo any of that. But it was like, he had that one where he was at the grocery store or something. And like,

try it like a woman didn't want to be on camera and it kind of looked like the end of a sitcom episode or something that was not a great moment it wasn't great and but they'll want to try to get a moment like that where he may be like fumbles over it and then of course they also want to say Vance you're really extreme you're the project 2025 candidate that's why you're on the Trump campaign they'll try to do that they're going to try to say Trump is really radical and the fact that this guy is on stage you're going to try to make him seem creepy

That too. That's the word. Do you agree? I wonder if he'll say that. He's like, you know, the American people don't want a creep for vice president. Something like that. I could see that. If you look back at what the

the presidential debate kind of maybe shows us about the team around them that is doing debate prep. They go straight for the jugular. I mean, she was making ad hominem attacks. She was attacking his character as an egocentric person, all this stuff, you know, attacking like rally sizes. None of that stuff's going to, going to work on JD, but he will launch those attacks. And I think JD is going to like his, his,

you know, yes, it's true. Net favorability, Tim Waltz is going to be higher than JD simply because of the media environment that we exist in. But, you know, that's what's interesting, Charlie, you see this in like the CNN clips as well, that, you know, Trump has a lower favorability than Kamala Harris, but guess what? 51% of the respondents also said that Trump's presidency was a success. And only 37 of them, 37% said that, uh,

Biden-Harris administration has been a success. So you can have low favorabilities while people still agree with the policy and will still vote for you. And also, I think J.D.'s natural likability on camera is going to absolutely put sunlight on the media's astroturfing of J.D. as soon as he got into the race with the cat lady stuff. So I think he's naturally really likable. He's affable. He's got like a lightness to his personality. And I do not think you can bait J.D. Vance at all.

So those attacks, those personal attacks are not going to work. So I agree. And the case needs to be about prosecuting it against Tim Walls and make it about Kamala. Meaning just Tim Walls is nothing more than a bag carrier for Kamala Harris. Emasculate him. Minimize him. As Jack Apley put it, don't let him do this like coach locker room Midwest thing. You know, we're going to pump up the country. It's a bunch of nonsense.

Make them, and this is an interesting thing. I think we might get into more detail in this VP debate. Make him have to answer for the border, for immigration, for crime, for the economy. And the other piece of advice I gave JD is embrace the bandwagon effect. Say, you know, a majority of Americans think our ticket's better for the economy. A vast majority of Americans think that we're better on immigration.

And all of a sudden, it's very hard for Tim Walz because all of a sudden he has to attack the people. Yeah, he has to say the polls are not true or something. I like that framing. And just say, look, we are on... And he'll be better at saying that than Trump would. Trump would just say, everyone agrees we're better on the border. 100%. So J.D. could say very humbly, look, the American people have seen both agendas and we're double-digit favorites, preferred on management of the economy, double-digit on managing of foreign affairs, and double-digit on immigration. Yeah.

And Governor Walz, your ticket is deeply unpopular because the American... Something like that, I think, is a great way of basically... The bandwagon effect then is no one will be like, well, maybe that's right. Yeah, I do think he's... You know what I'm saying? Like all of a sudden, people want to be in the majority of Americans. How would you have J.D. phrase the answer on abortion? I think we should play offense on it. And I think you got to go to late term. I think that...

He could definitely navigate with precision Tim Walz's late-term abortion extremism better than President Trump could. I think J.D. Vance needs to know the states by name that allow late-term abortion and list them off. Again, I messed all this. New Mexico, Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Minnesota, New Jersey, Vermont, and a couple others with no restrictions. And then I think that he should say, but the people who need to answer the question is they want to get rid of the filibuster to do this.

Governor Walz, can you tell us, will you get rid of the filibuster for anything else? Will you get rid of the filibuster to add D.C. and Puerto Rico in the states? That's great. I wouldn't do the statehood one because that's like we get that, but I think Normies wouldn't say D.C. estate is bad. But that's an escape hatch away from abortion. I would say amnesty. I would say would you get rid of the filibuster to do amnesty? Yeah, there you go. So Governor Walz, answer the question to the American people. Can you commit to saying, or not even say commit because that's too much of an escape hatch.

Will you use the Philip? Will you get rid of the filibuster to give amnesty to illegal aliens? And then just like let him answer. Yeah. And he'll be Charlie. The, yeah. The other angle on the abortion thing though, and you had this in that original viral tweet was that he has the most radical abortion laws in the, in the country. So it, you know, like every year, five to six babies are born alive after a botched abortion in his state and

And, you know, apparently he's OK with that. I mean, that's called infanticide. And they kill these babies, by the way. Just, you know, they're they're born alive and then they kill them anyways. And one of the most most horrifying, disgusting practices in our country, I genuinely believe it's it's a scourge on our country. It's a spiritual darkness.

And I think for J.D. to sort of use Trump's attack vector and say this is radical, we're not the radical ones. We're saying we're saying let the states decide. You guys are the ones that are killing babies that are born alive five to six of them a year. It's not made up. This is actually and you got rid of a provision that said you needed to report that.

So you just want to like sweep it under the rug. You want it to be this quiet secret infanticide and act like it's not happening. And by the way, you also have the most radical trans surgery laws. They think they're like a trans refuge or whatever, right? So, and they're one of those states that, you know, basically teenagers can get their parts chopped off and not tell their parents. So there's a lot of refinement

radical policies in Minnesota. And it's one of these states too, Charlie, and you know this very well because you kind of know that part of the world. They call it Minnesota Nice.

And it's guys like Tim Walz that are getting that are railroading these policies through on a genuine, generally good people that are just kind of a little too passive for their own good. And the rest of the country is not like that, though. They're going to they're going to see and hear these policies. I think it's genuinely radical and will strike the average American as too extreme.

I know the type, and it's too bad that Midwestern nice has turned inverted to allow ourselves to be looted and taken advantage of. Minnesota nice always included very strong passive-aggressive elements to it. Totally passive-aggressive. That's why NPR is so popular. NPR is the most passive-aggressive medium ever. Big time.

Minnesotans, man. Something I want to throw out, just I know that Tim Walz is going to do this because we've seen guys like that do this again and again, and it was a huge part of the DNC, and that's the power of story. So he's going to come with a couple of these abortion stories in his back pocket. He's going to have stories like that. I would love to hear J.D. Vance, maybe not

go up on stories like that. But we know, for example, that Tim Walz is most definitely going to bring up Springfield, Ohio. He's going to try to use this as an attack line on JD. You know, have a few of those stories in the back pocket with names of individuals. You know, this person that I spoke to on the phone and, you know, they told, you know, she told me this happened to her daughter or this man told me that this happened to his job. And not just a

And you can't just say like a constituent called my office and said this, right? Which, you know, a normal politician would say, but with JD, I think, and I hope will do is actually have, you know, the name. Well, just the first name is fine. I have to talk to people, whatever. But, you know, something about the description, this age called me up. We had this great conversation. Those are the type of stories that actually leave a lasting impact on people.

because when you're hearing a story psychologically, so it's like when Charlie does these tabling events and I sort of got to appear at the one, you're coming to it on both sides. People have their defenses up. They have their facts and figures. They're ready to go. But when you're hearing a story, you enter in a completely different psychological model of your mind where you're in receive mode. You just want to hear someone's story. And when we hear stories, we

we relate to them and we try to interact with them in a way psychologically where we're putting ourselves, if we can, as much as we can in the shoes of the person who did it. That's why documentaries can be so powerful, et cetera, et cetera. It's why Hollywood is so powerful. So use that power, JD. Use the power of story. Use the power of the story of your own background in Middletown, Ohio.

and how you grew up and what's happened there, using that power of a story is always going to be JD's best weapon. I think that's smart. I don't know if we have time to get to the other topics. Are you sure? We could pick one of them. What do we have left? Well, we could do Mark Cuban and just his adventures. Well, the question is, is Mark Cuban missing a chromosome? That's the question that people have been asking. I guess we could finish the topic right now because the answer is yes, right? I don't know. What's the next? Well, there's the New York Times article

Tech Union demanding no more scented products, among other things. That's really good. That's better than Cuban. In their big thing. And then also there was like they might try to bring back Jurassic Park, but for woolly mammoths. Getting in credit card debt is very easy. Getting out? Well, the system's set up so we don't. If you're struggling with credit cards, personal loans, collections, or medical bills, you need to check out PDS Debt.

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Get a free debt analysis right now at pdsdebt.com slash charlie. It only takes 30 seconds. That's pdsdebt.com slash charlie, pdsdebt.com slash charlie. Okay, very quickly, scented products, because that is a rich topic. Okay, so give me one sec. I have to bring up the New York Times demand list here. Okay.

I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. So it's their tech staff basically has threatened to strike during election day. So it's their tech union. New York Times is quite a big company, actually. And so they've issued a list of demands, and it includes they've been battling for a contract for two years here. 600. Wow. 600 software engineers are in this union. New York Times.

The left has some very large media organs is all I can say. How many people total work at, I don't know, like the Daily Wire?

100? 200 maybe? And anyway, let me see here. Dang it. Can one of you get me the link to this? I'm trying to find just the list. So they didn't want scented products. I can only imagine what else they wanted. Let's see. They want pet-breathing leave. Hold on. So if your pet dies? Yeah, like if Sparky dies, you get to take time off. There you go. Sparky! Your pet funeral. Sparky! No! Hopefully Sparky uses rough greens. They want a four-day work week.

They want annual bonuses that are not tethered to performance. Of course, want a big hike in pay. Unlimited break time.

Unlimited. Mandatory trigger warnings in company meetings. Come on. They want more money for non-white staff to attend conferences. And they want language that would prioritize non-citizens of the U.S. here on visas in the case of layoffs. So if there's layoffs, you can't fire the people who are non-citizens because they might have to leave America as a result. And, of course, a ban on scented products in break rooms. Okay.

I love that one. So this is just the tech union or all unions? It is the tech union. What does that represent? So the New York Times, I think, has a journalist union and like a tech staff union. So the people that actually like populate the website?

Like the people who write, yeah, and then the people who kind of make all their, I assume, all their graphics, keep the website up, yeah. I mean, New York Times has some impressive tech. Like when, I'll full confession here, when we were covering election night, I am using the New York Times website to track everything. They're amazing. I have no disagreement with that. And so they're very talented people, so maybe they have the right to abolish scented products in their, I really want to know the origin of that.

uh there's something funny in 2015 do you remember when there was all those campus protests fall 2015 and they were all this issuing these lists of demands and i was covering education at the daily caller and i'd love to read them because a lot would have there's usually like standard demands that everyone had and then some schools there were these bespoke demands that was clearly someone on making the list had an axe to grind like

Like, I remember one, they were really mad about like the instruction of jazz music at the school. And so it was clearly one specific music student who was angry at one specific professor. So their demand list was, this professor has to go away and not be mean to me. And also we need to change the entire music department. And I feel like this is a lot like that. They probably have scented candles in the break room and someone really, really hated it. And

Got to ban it, Charlie. Ban it forever. So I've actually talked with some of the reporters at New York Times about this, and they're part of the union or the guild rather. And there is definitely divide between the young guild members and the older ones. And the older ones think these kids are insane. They think they're patently insane. So there's actually kind of a really intense tug of war going on inside the guild. I don't know how it plays out with these –

the tech side specifically, but it's not uniform. I actually have a lot of respect for a lot of the reporters at New York Times having worked with them directly. I will tell you they are head and shoulders above some of the other publications. The main publications, they're pretty transparent. They tell you kind of where they're going. They play by the rules. Their ethics are phenomenal. A lot of the other outlets, they'll throw you curveballs. By the way, the worst thing

AP. AP is the absolute like dumpster bin of all publications. People think it's a wire. It's actually disgusting and worse. And so, you know, I think these are hilarious. But I will say in The New York Times defense, it's run by leftists. It's a leftist point of view. But at least they play by the rules. Journalistically, can't really speak to the tech guys. I will just I just wanted to put that out there. AP is the worst.

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We're going to hear for all of it. Civilization will be decided. I just realized that we should have been. I've decided that maybe tomorrow on Human Events we can just do like, hi, welcome to Human Events Daily. This is Jack Posobiec. We're here. It's a really contentious election. It's so funny hearing Charlie being like, this is going to get really contentious, guys. All hell's going to break loose. My voice will be back. Like the softest, nicest voice. I shall return, as Douglas MacArthur famously said.

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